Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Shelter Executive Officer Peter McMillian says the Federal scheme for first home buyers has been expanded with people only needing a deposit of 5 per cent
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You know that two budgets were handed down earlier this week,
- 0:02Speaker 1: obviously the Northern Territory budget, which we've spoken a lot about,
- 0:06Speaker 1: and also the federal budget and some questioning exactly what
- 0:10Speaker 1: is in it when we talk about affordable housing and
- 0:14Speaker 1: that commitment some of those commitments that have been made.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Now joining me in the studio to talk further about
- 0:19Speaker 1: that is Peter McMillan, who is indeed the CEO of
- 0:23Speaker 1: NT Shelter. Good morning to you, Peter, hy Katie are
- 0:26Speaker 1: going yeah, really good. Great to have you in this studio. Peter,
- 0:29Speaker 1: you and I have spoken on numerous occasions about well
- 0:32Speaker 1: social housing, affordable housing, public housing and the shortfalls. What
- 0:37Speaker 1: did you make of the budget earlier in the week.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Well, certainly, Katie, this is the cost of living budget,
- 0:42Speaker 2: and I think the government has made announcements over a
- 0:45Speaker 2: whole range of measures, some of which are in the
- 0:47Speaker 2: housing and homelessness space. The issue always is that, as
- 0:52Speaker 2: I'm sure a few other commentators would say that there's
- 0:55Speaker 2: never enough for any of them in particular, but we
- 0:57Speaker 2: get a little bit of funding in a lot of
- 0:59Speaker 2: areas and make a difference that's not negate it so
- 1:02Speaker 2: there it is welcome, for example, to see an increase
- 1:05Speaker 2: in the federal budget for Commonwealth rent assistance, and just
- 1:09Speaker 2: so listeners are aware, those are payments that are from
- 1:12Speaker 2: the Commonwealth government for people living in private rental, accommodation
- 1:16Speaker 2: or community housing where they meet eligibility on incomes low
- 1:19Speaker 2: to modern incomes. That's been increased by fifteen percent from
- 1:23Speaker 2: the twentieth of September this year. So that's going to
- 1:26Speaker 2: make a difference because it's the first time that the
- 1:28Speaker 2: rate of commerce red assistance has increased more than the
- 1:33Speaker 2: rate of inflation for thirty years. So people who are
- 1:36Speaker 2: receiving the maximum amount of Commorce red assistance, which is
- 1:39Speaker 2: around eighty percent of recipients, they'll receive an additional sixteen
- 1:43Speaker 2: dollars to thirty two dollars per fortnite, depending on their
- 1:46Speaker 2: household composition and the amount of rent their pain and peter.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Would most people if they're eligible for that, would they
- 1:52Speaker 1: already be aware that they're eligible for it or are
- 1:54Speaker 1: they able to sort of find out if.
- 1:55Speaker 2: They are well, Those who are receiving the top rate
- 1:58Speaker 2: will be eligible for it. I'm not sure how well
- 2:00Speaker 2: it's been communicated yet, other than on budget night, but
- 2:03Speaker 2: that will come through from the thirtieth of what did
- 2:07Speaker 2: I say before the twenty.
- 2:08Speaker 1: September year, that'll come through, So any other wins for
- 2:12Speaker 1: this sector from what you can see.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Well, there are some announcements in the federal budget that
- 2:16Speaker 2: we were aware of and which are very encouraging. So
- 2:20Speaker 2: if we look at the Northern Territory circumstances, clearly closing
- 2:23Speaker 2: the gap on housing in remote communities and homelands is
- 2:26Speaker 2: very important, and so it's good to see that one
- 2:28Speaker 2: hundred and eleven million dollars for a new one year
- 2:30Speaker 2: remote housing agreement with the territory government. We're also seeing
- 2:34Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars over two years for urgent work
- 2:37Speaker 2: on housing and infrastructure in homelands and that's very welcome
- 2:41Speaker 2: used in the first time since two thousand and nine,
- 2:43Speaker 2: I think that actually longer than that we've had investment
- 2:45Speaker 2: in the homelands. I think it's more like twenty years,
- 2:48Speaker 2: so that's important. And also there's been some money to
- 2:51Speaker 2: get the Aboriginal housing sorry Aboriginal hostels limited properties up
- 2:54Speaker 2: to better scratch to take urgent repairs and maintenance, so
- 2:58Speaker 2: that's important. And the other thing I think that's also
- 3:02Speaker 2: interesting for those that are looking to buy a home.
- 3:08Speaker 2: There's been an expansion of the home guarantee scheme, so
- 3:11Speaker 2: at the moment, that's where new homeowners can borrow. Sorry,
- 3:16Speaker 2: the deposit only needs to be as little as five percent,
- 3:19Speaker 2: and the federal government will will guarantee the balance of
- 3:24Speaker 2: that twenty percent deposit that would otherwise be paid in
- 3:27Speaker 2: len there's home mortgage insurance, so that helps new homeowners
- 3:31Speaker 2: get into the market earlier than what they would in
- 3:33Speaker 2: terms of only having to save a depositors of as
- 3:35Speaker 2: little as five percent. So of course everybody should get
- 3:39Speaker 2: independent financial advice, especially in a rising interest rate environment,
- 3:42Speaker 2: and the capacity to repay.
- 3:43Speaker 1: That lite very good advice, I reckon.
- 3:45Speaker 2: But now any two people eligible people will be able
- 3:50Speaker 2: to be join applicants. Now some opportunities there. Before it
- 3:54Speaker 2: was just spouses and de facto partners. So now we
- 3:56Speaker 2: can get people coming together and being joint applicants.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Which is like a moment like a mum and daughter
- 4:02Speaker 1: or something like that.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Potentially two friends. Yes, right, So I think it will
- 4:05Speaker 2: be really important to see the eligibility guidelines when that
- 4:09Speaker 2: comes out, things like allowing non first home buyers who
- 4:13Speaker 2: haven't owned a property in Australia for at least ten
- 4:15Speaker 2: years to access that guarantee, single legal guardians of children
- 4:19Speaker 2: and also Australian permanent residents. So there's been an expansion
- 4:23Speaker 2: and that is really I guess providing a little bit
- 4:25Speaker 2: more of an opportunity for those who do aspire to
- 4:28Speaker 2: home ownership just to be able to save up the
- 4:29Speaker 2: deposit quicker and get into the market.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Now, Peter. Obviously, the federal government also said that they
- 4:35Speaker 1: are they're committing tofting to lift the National Housing Finance
- 4:39Speaker 1: and Investment Corporations liability cap to two billion from two
- 4:43Speaker 1: billion to seven point five in order to support the
- 4:47Speaker 1: building of affordable and social housing. Will that make an impact.
- 4:50Speaker 2: It will make an impact in terms of community housing
- 4:54Speaker 2: organizations in particular being able to access low, low cost finance.
- 4:58Speaker 2: So that's basically a guarantee that the Australian government gives
- 5:02Speaker 2: to ensure that NIFIC, which is a National Housing Finance
- 5:06Speaker 2: Investment Corporation, to be able to issue those loans in
- 5:08Speaker 2: a way that those loans are guaranteed. And there have
- 5:11Speaker 2: been figures of around seven thousand new social affordable housing
- 5:14Speaker 2: dwellings across Australia that will come as a result of
- 5:17Speaker 2: that sound.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Like it sounds like there's lots of announcements. It always
- 5:21Speaker 1: sounds like it's a good thing when a budget gets
- 5:23Speaker 1: handed down and you can sort of see that there's
- 5:25Speaker 1: quite a bit in there for housing and affordable housing
- 5:28Speaker 1: and social housing. Does it hit the mark though? Do
- 5:31Speaker 1: you think it goes far enough?
- 5:32Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it does. I'd say
- 5:35Speaker 2: it's a start, and I haven't really mentioned yet. Build
- 5:38Speaker 2: to rend as well, which is another area, a new
- 5:41Speaker 2: I guess segment in the Australian property market where the
- 5:44Speaker 2: government is clearly wanting to make that more I guess
- 5:48Speaker 2: a more attractive investment class for developers, such as overseas
- 5:54Speaker 2: and here to all lesser extent in other areas of
- 5:57Speaker 2: Australia where large property developers are building properties for rent,
- 6:02Speaker 2: they own the properties, they don't sell the ownership to
- 6:05Speaker 2: tenants or owners for a longer period of time, so
- 6:08Speaker 2: tenants get longer security of tenure in those properties, they
- 6:12Speaker 2: get more security over not getting kicked out at the
- 6:14Speaker 2: end of their lease. You get good amenities and facilities
- 6:17Speaker 2: in those properties as well. That model's very popular overseas
- 6:20Speaker 2: and it provides someone going certainty for renters, those people
- 6:24Speaker 2: who don't want to buy properties. So there's been some
- 6:27Speaker 2: extensions in rates of depreciation and withholding tax to try
- 6:31Speaker 2: and kick that along. Without getting too technical, they're trying
- 6:34Speaker 2: to support that which is an exciting new I guess
- 6:37Speaker 2: type of housing product, especially in I think the territory
- 6:40Speaker 2: where we have fifty percent of us at renter. So
- 6:42Speaker 2: stay tuned for that one. What I think is most
- 6:45Speaker 2: important is probably what's not in the budget, and that
- 6:48Speaker 2: is that in Canberra at the moment, some of your
- 6:50Speaker 2: listeners may be aware there's been negotiations in the Senate
- 6:54Speaker 2: with the Greens and other cross benches to try and
- 6:58Speaker 2: get this Housing Australia Future Fund or the half in place,
- 7:02Speaker 2: and Jackie Lambe's party has negotiated for her state in
- 7:05Speaker 2: Tasmania and now nationally that if that gets up, each
- 7:08Speaker 2: state in territory will get one thy two hundred social
- 7:11Speaker 2: and affordable housing properties.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Now if we were to get that here in the
- 7:15Speaker 2: Northern territory, can you imagine the impact that will make
- 7:18Speaker 2: in each.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Of the social and affordable housing Well, I don't think
- 7:21Speaker 1: it can be underestimated. You know the impact that not
- 7:25Speaker 1: having that social and affordable housing and the impact that
- 7:28Speaker 1: not having somewhere affordable to live can have. You know,
- 7:31Speaker 1: it does mean that you've got people moving away, it
- 7:34Speaker 1: means you've got that overcrowding. It has a huge impact
- 7:36Speaker 1: in so many different ways.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Absolutely, so the things we need to see more houses
- 7:41Speaker 2: being built. So under this half legislation that will see
- 7:45Speaker 2: thirty to forty thousand houses around Australia getting built is
- 7:48Speaker 2: nowhere near enough and that's why we would like to
- 7:51Speaker 2: see the government raise its ambition on that. But it's
- 7:55Speaker 2: a start and I think we need to get moving
- 7:57Speaker 2: with that. As I said, twelve hundred houses territory will
- 8:00Speaker 2: make a huge difference. The other thing we need to
- 8:02Speaker 2: look at is renters, and at the moment what's happening
- 8:07Speaker 2: also in Canberra is under National Cabinet all the housing,
- 8:10Speaker 2: state and territory housing ministers are having to go back
- 8:12Speaker 2: and look at what they're doing for renners. Protections around
- 8:15Speaker 2: things like how often can you rent increase and by
- 8:18Speaker 2: how much and also I guess provisions around getting evicted
- 8:22Speaker 2: at the end of your lease and making sure that's
- 8:24Speaker 2: fair and consistent nationally now Cadie in the Northern Territory,
- 8:28Speaker 2: we've got absolutely nothing to show for that. Over the
- 8:31Speaker 2: last five years we really are really dragging the chain.
- 8:34Speaker 2: We've done absolutely nothing here at all on progressive legislation
- 8:38Speaker 2: for landlords and tenants alike. We've got an Act which
- 8:40Speaker 2: is hopelessly out of date and the stage we've seen
- 8:43Speaker 2: nothing at all come out of reform. So if we're
- 8:46Speaker 2: serious about providing security of tenure for residents, whether they
- 8:50Speaker 2: want to live here in an owner property or rent
- 8:52Speaker 2: a place, they need to have a little bit more
- 8:55Speaker 2: safeguard in place and the cost of living all of
- 8:58Speaker 2: these announcements that have been made in will make certainly
- 9:00Speaker 2: make a difference to families. The question is we'll do enough.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Only time will tell.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on, Peter McMillan. I always enjoy our chats,
- 9:08Speaker 1: always appreciate your honesty and your knowledge in this space.
- 9:10Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining us on the
- 9:12Speaker 1: show today. Thank you