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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 21 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April one. This is Jaguars Happy Hours
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  Speaker 1: and now honorable mention in the two Big Man Dancing Challenge.
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  Speaker 1: James Peace, Jack. There's always next year. Welcome in. It's
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. We
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  Speaker 1: have a very busy show today. We're one week to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft in two finally a week away. That's
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  Speaker 1: seven days of talk for the Jaguars. At number one overall,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghaman standing by, we'll hear. I'm Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today, he
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  Speaker 1: can bring the energy. I might get a word in edgewise.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if what coach has to offer today at
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  Speaker 1: four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville and
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  Speaker 1: the the team that he inherited in the defense, to
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  Speaker 1: line room and what could be ahead. And then Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four forty
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  Speaker 1: or four forty five today we'll get his thoughts in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide his
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  Speaker 1: thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, good afternoon, Good afternoon, Uh Buttoner
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  Speaker 1: still looked like he's in playing shape. What are we playing? No,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's fine, He's now. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He First of all, he was a good football player.
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  Speaker 1: He played for twelve years. He's a good football player
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, teams that rivals of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars back in the early days, Dealer for a while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good football player for a long period of time. And
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  Speaker 1: and uh, when you play the position that he did
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  Speaker 1: for twelve years, you did something right. So so that's
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  Speaker 1: a I think that's a great coaching staff. Higher. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big believer that coaching matters. I know there are
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  Speaker 1: some people thinks that's about the Jimmy's and Joe's and
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  Speaker 1: not the exes and the ohs, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: they're or is something to that, But I think that
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  Speaker 1: coaching does matter. That's why Bill Belichick has been so
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  Speaker 1: successful for so long, and that he knows how to
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  Speaker 1: put people in the right position. He knows how to
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  Speaker 1: put people in position to win. And when you can
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  Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna win a lot of football games.
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  Speaker 1: So I like, I like good football coaches. They make
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  Speaker 1: good football players. They can't make what's the old thing
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  Speaker 1: chicken salad out out of you know, out of chicken. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, that's a good good analysis. JP, that's deep.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. You're good. You're on it. We're bringing
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  Speaker 1: the heat today and we'll he'll bring the heat Rinson
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  Speaker 1: Buckner at four fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: defensive line coach to get his thoughts on air. They
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  Speaker 1: picking JP did he did? He said, are we we
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  Speaker 1: gonna didn't see you know, I don't. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go there with him, because well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious though, like the process of evaluating all these
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  Speaker 1: prospects they come in for visits, Like what do you
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  Speaker 1: want to know when you have them in the bill
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  Speaker 1: thing for a day? Like I'm curious think, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like what do you talk about with these everything? And
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  Speaker 1: it's very informal. I mean, that's that's the whole reason
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  Speaker 1: why they like to bring them in. It's it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit less of you. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't as an agent or uh whatever you want to
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  Speaker 1: call a person that prepares a prospect for visits or
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  Speaker 1: the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an individual
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  Speaker 1: for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it for
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that's I think
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  Speaker 1: the the environment that the coaches and the and the
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  Speaker 1: personnel people like to get these guys in here because
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  Speaker 1: they're out of their comfort zone a little bit. They're
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  Speaker 1: not as quite quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing.
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  Speaker 1: But JP, here we are a week out and you
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  Speaker 1: know what we have now entered one week out from
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  Speaker 1: the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the
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  Speaker 1: smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything
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  Speaker 1: that you hear from kind of here until the draft
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  Speaker 1: is typically gonna be some kind of a smoke screen,
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  Speaker 1: or can be perceived as some kind of a smoke
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  Speaker 1: screen to throw people off of a trail or two
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  Speaker 1: do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick
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  Speaker 1: anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting
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  Speaker 1: out smoke screens. What's the point. Well, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that. I think that they have somebody in mind.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the reality. I think if if they or
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  Speaker 1: to get any one of three guys, they would be happy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who those three guys are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've got an idea who I like, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who they like. But but that's
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  Speaker 1: how close some of these guys are right at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the draft. I really believe that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from uh Neil to Ikey to Hutchinson to uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: the defensive ent trade on Walker from Georgia. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think all these guys are kind of right there
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  Speaker 1: at the top. And I know that typically since you
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  Speaker 1: just drafted a quarterback and oh, by the way, you gotta,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really good one. In
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence last year. It would be awesome if there
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  Speaker 1: was a quarterback that could be somewhere at the top
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  Speaker 1: of this draft, because then you would be able to
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  Speaker 1: get a bounty of draft picks to be able to
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  Speaker 1: trade this pick away. But you're not going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that if you're looking for a bounty
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  Speaker 1: of picks. So now the question, the next question is
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  Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable trading that pick if somebody were
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  Speaker 1: to want it and not getting the haul of picks
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  Speaker 1: like the forty Niners gave up last year to move
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  Speaker 1: up to draft Trey Land. It's not a quarterback hall.
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  Speaker 1: In return, you have to maybe change your standard alone.
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  Speaker 1: Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the
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  Speaker 1: compensation that you could receive if you were to have
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  Speaker 1: an offer to move out of that still overall pick. Now,
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  Speaker 1: should they adjust their expectations? I think you have to.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to consider that is the phone
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  Speaker 1: even ringing? Maybe not well, I think the phone always rings,
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  Speaker 1: But is the compensation at the level of the expectation?
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  Speaker 1: And and and that's why I think that if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you want to do a trade, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be willing to lower your expectation on what the value
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  Speaker 1: is that you're going to get for that first overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody
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  Speaker 1: in the position that the Jaguars are should because there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys at the top that are really good.
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  Speaker 1: You have to consider lowering your expectations as far as
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  Speaker 1: what you would receive in a trade, if you could
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  Speaker 1: trade back a little bit, if you could do that,
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  Speaker 1: if that's a big if and deadline spur action we're
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  Speaker 1: still a week away. I mean, you could all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden somebody did their deal what a week ahead
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  Speaker 1: of the draft last year. But that's for a four
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  Speaker 1: quarterback quarterback. But at the time, nobody knew who that
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  Speaker 1: quarterback was gonna be. But could something like that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen now, but I mean
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  Speaker 1: it could. I mean, could Detroit fall in love with
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  Speaker 1: the possibility of having Hutchinson Michigan guy University of Michigan Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we did, Ashley and I did a segment
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  Speaker 1: today with Lions website folks um and yeah, they had
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  Speaker 1: him in the building the other week, and they've done
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  Speaker 1: all this, you know, additional programming around him and these
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  Speaker 1: things over the year, and they would love to have
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  Speaker 1: him in Detroit. I think that that that's it's very
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  Speaker 1: interesting and it would have been awesome if there were
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback who was at the top air. Everybody was
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  Speaker 1: thinking that could be a really good prospect, and everybody
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  Speaker 1: was saying that we gotta get up and get that
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars pick, and then you could have gotten a bevy
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  Speaker 1: of picks. I mean, in a perfect world, that would
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  Speaker 1: have been exactly what is happening right now. But it's
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  Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. So now what so I think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. No, And uh, you know most
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  Speaker 1: of the prognosticators now are some have Hutchinson, some have
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  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker. They're often a Neil uh Ikey from North
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  Speaker 1: Carolina states right there near the top. As clear as
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  Speaker 1: mud right now, it really is. It's I think it
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  Speaker 1: says as this is gonna be as an intriguing of
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  Speaker 1: a draft because you know, everybody, everybody puts together kind
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  Speaker 1: of their expected picks, whether it be when I say
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  Speaker 1: a mock, they try. A mock is a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times what people are trying to predict what the teams
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  Speaker 1: are gonna do. A lot of times people make a
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  Speaker 1: draft list that ranks the players based on that person's
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  Speaker 1: individual opinion the mocks. I think it's gonna there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a lot of mocks that are gonna be way
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  Speaker 1: off this year because there's so many different guys that
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  Speaker 1: are kind of clumped into that talent pool area of
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  Speaker 1: the first round. And and I think a good question
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  Speaker 1: is I mean to take, for example, Kyle Hamilton's safety
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  Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. I mean, most people have him rated
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  Speaker 1: like the second highest rated player if not the highest
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  Speaker 1: rated player in the draft overall. That's correct. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna go in the top five JP. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So you don't know, no idea. So I think that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it a really interesting draft. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: for me and I become I don't I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: say I'll become a junkie of the draft, but I
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  Speaker 1: become a fan of the draft because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very intriguing the whole process of how teams come to
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  Speaker 1: their opinion. It's Jaguars Happy Are by the Way on
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  Speaker 1: tinton x l a M and Jaguars dot Com. JP
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  Speaker 1: Shatrick with Jeff Logovan, Brentson Buckner coming up, Jaguars defensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach. Were you not a fan of the draft before?
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  Speaker 1: When did that change for you? I would say, I mean, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think ever since I started watching more of the prospects.
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  Speaker 1: Then you become a little bit more, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: when your familiarity breeds kind of interest, right, I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you start watching the film of these guys and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you kind of have an opinion of
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  Speaker 1: where their value should be, and then you kind of
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  Speaker 1: compare that to where these teams end up picking these guys,
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  Speaker 1: and so uh, twofold that that I think is intriguing
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  Speaker 1: for me because you know, I'll watch the top you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifty sixty guys and kind of have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: where the first round might go. And then, uh, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's also interesting for me because after the Jaguars draft,
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  Speaker 1: you go and you watch all of these draft picks
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, look, I'm I can't watch prospects, which
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  Speaker 1: is what some of these personnel departments are doing. But
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  Speaker 1: but then you go back and you watch the film
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  Speaker 1: of the prospects, and then you kind of see what
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  Speaker 1: some of these traits are. And so when you watch
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  Speaker 1: that film, you go, Okay, I can't wait until I
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  Speaker 1: can see them on the field because I want to
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  Speaker 1: see this trait that I saw that I really like.
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  Speaker 1: I saw this trait that I think is a weakness
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  Speaker 1: and will that prohibit him from having success at this
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  Speaker 1: position but maybe fit better at this position. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just it makes it more intriguing for me in that fashion.
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  Speaker 1: JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one at least
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  Speaker 1: for two more days, still working in the classroom, strength
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  Speaker 1: and conditioning is key. Right now. Next week they're on
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  Speaker 1: the field Phase two three week window. Coaches are allowed
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  Speaker 1: on the field for the first time, but it's only
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  Speaker 1: individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No
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  Speaker 1: offense versus defense, no one on ones, no helmets, so
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  Speaker 1: you just do an individual running around. Yeah, I like
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  Speaker 1: I like the format of the off season. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's great. I mean I wish, I really do wish
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  Speaker 1: that the coach and the player could have a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more interaction than what the current CYBA rules are.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that it just doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: a lot of sense to where you have beautiful facilities
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  Speaker 1: in a beautiful field, and and parties willing to maybe
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  Speaker 1: do a little more work than what the opportunity is
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  Speaker 1: given to him, but yet you can't go. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that mindset. You just can't interact. You
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  Speaker 1: can go five days a year, I mean, you can go,
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  Speaker 1: but you can't you. But I mean, by my point
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  Speaker 1: is JP, look, if I got a coach and or
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  Speaker 1: I want to go against an offensive lineman to work,
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  Speaker 1: just you can't do that. I can't. I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't make sense. I mean in the way
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  Speaker 1: people are are taught is that how do you get better? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So you you practice, you work on things. And that's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting point that you know, quarterbacks and receivers throw
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  Speaker 1: together all the time off site. Yeah, and then here
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  Speaker 1: and what should you do? You can do that again,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, but would you want to You're not protected,
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  Speaker 1: you're off side. You get an injury. On theory, you can, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and there you can. But if if you get an injury,
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  Speaker 1: you're on your own. And that's too a little much,
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  Speaker 1: too much contact. You know, you're roll the dice. For
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  Speaker 1: For example, let's say Trevor Lawrence takes three guys and
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  Speaker 1: you know, because they've got all this construction going on here,
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  Speaker 1: they say, hey, you know, we can't work out here anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so let's go to high school field. A. Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: meet you there at four o'clock. You know, we were good.
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  Speaker 1: We can go out there and one of the guys
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt. Yeah, okay, non football injury. U not on
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  Speaker 1: the team's time, not on the team's dime anymore. That's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a hard that's a hard risk take. It
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  Speaker 1: goes back to what we talked about about the decision
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  Speaker 1: of some of these guys to not participate in the
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  Speaker 1: team's off season program and and work out choose to
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  Speaker 1: work out on their own. It doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 1: because of the liability issue. The Jaguars Lugs will host
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  Speaker 1: the two douval Draft Party presented by Baptist Health a
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  Speaker 1: week from tonight at Daily's Place, six o'clock the gates open.
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  Speaker 1: You will enjoy live draft analysis, on stage appearances by
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  Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson. Intellect Jags players will be there. Also,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have our coverage on Jaguars dot Com on the
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  Speaker 1: big screen after the Jaguars first round pick. Also registered
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch you JP. I'm gonna watch you Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear all the analysis
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  Speaker 1: and information from you. It's a free website. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us, and thank you for joining us. Tonight
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  Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy our defensive line coach Brentson Buckner. After this,
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you, Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Flagman back in just a few minutes. Brentson Buckner played
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  Speaker 1: twelve seasons as a defensive lineman with the Steelers, Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: forty Niners, and Panthers. He's been in the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: a since since his coaching intern days with the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: In two he was the d line coach for three
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  Speaker 1: different teams, make it four now since jointing the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: He's in studio with us today. Brinson is good to
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  Speaker 1: see your coach, My pleasure. Thank you for having Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the time. Are you settled into Jacksonville yet
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  Speaker 1: away from the building, because most of your time, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure it's been spent inside these hallways. Oh. I just
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  Speaker 1: got settled last week. Me and the family moved into
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  Speaker 1: the house. Uh, but then the furniture and all the
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  Speaker 1: clothes came. So right now we're unpacking boxes all lovers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm working here, then I'm going home working. Yeah. Working,
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  Speaker 1: that's double duty, that's for sure, which just tougher right now,
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  Speaker 1: the unpacking at home with the family or here unpacking.
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  Speaker 1: I can do this football in my sleep, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Football is what I do. But unpacking and sorting you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a man taking out the box, sitting on where
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  Speaker 1: I find it, but with a wife taking out the box,
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  Speaker 1: put it somewhere neat and not in football. I take
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  Speaker 1: football any day. I love it. So we mentioned your
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  Speaker 1: playing career, right, You know that gets you attention when
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  Speaker 1: you're in front of a room for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: But how long does that last until you have to
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  Speaker 1: start proving you can help those players get better? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the football is the ultimate fraternity anyway, So when you
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  Speaker 1: walk in and you sat with those guys sat you
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  Speaker 1: get a sort of respect. But it's three things guys
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  Speaker 1: always gonna want to know. Do you care about them
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  Speaker 1: away from the field, do you know what you're talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Can you help them get better? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And that's where it comes in. But I try to
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  Speaker 1: build a trust factor with him. I try to tell
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  Speaker 1: them I'm not gonna put any limitation on them or
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  Speaker 1: put any high expectations on them, because sometimes as a coach,
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  Speaker 1: players get asked to do some unrealistic things that you know,
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  Speaker 1: because coaches just say that you know, do this, do this. No,
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  Speaker 1: I've played that game, so I know it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: some hard downs. There's gonna be some good downs. So
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  Speaker 1: I let each guy set what their standard is gonna be,
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  Speaker 1: what what their skills can do, not let me help
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  Speaker 1: you get better at what you're good at. Brenton Buckner,
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  Speaker 1: whether Jaguar's defensive line coach. You go back to Mike
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  Speaker 1: Caldwell in Arizona. I believe was your first connection together
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  Speaker 1: in a coaching staff and fourteen, is that right? The
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  Speaker 1: first time? First time? And now you're back with him
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  Speaker 1: now as the defensive coordinator. What do you remember about
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  Speaker 1: the first year. I think he was the inside linebacker coaching,
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  Speaker 1: he was inside linebacker coach, and me being the d
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  Speaker 1: line coach. So we worked well together. The communication, the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge in which he he has. Mike has always been
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  Speaker 1: that sort of defensive coordinator in a in a position
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  Speaker 1: coach body because the way he looked at the game.
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  Speaker 1: But me and Mike had a history before that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we played together with the Carolina pant We played together.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Mike married my next door neighbor. You're really connected. Who's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: really coach Walton's who was the defensive back coach here
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: last year? That's his sister. We went we all went
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to high school together, so it's it's a crazy connection.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I've been doing Mike for a while. I know, great guy,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know, just his knowledge of football and his understanding
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and Mike as a unique way of giving people to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: follow him, you know what I mean, because he's not
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a me me me guy. He always like, man, you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: got to put ownership on because I was a brand
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: new coach coming in When we got together in Arizona,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: he was like, man, you got to give them ownership
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of it. You gotta make them feel that they're a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: part of it. You just don't want to be in
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: front of them as a teacher or somebody's just looking
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: down on what you want them to feel that you're
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: all in the same group, working for the same goal
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and you get the best out of your players. Some
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: good teams in those Carolina days with you guys playing
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the right Super Bowl run there at one point Brentson
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Buckner with US defensive line coach. You worked under Bruce
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Arians of course, in a couple of different stops Arizona,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: most notably in your early time working with Doug Peterson.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Do you have any history with Doug? First of all, dude,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: those guys compare it all the way they may be
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: approach this time of year. Well, playing against Doug, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: because the was a player when out when I was
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a player and now as a coach. But you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: him and Bruce a very similar You know that they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: have a plan, you know, and that's the one thing
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I like about both of them. They have a plan
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: is written out. We're gonna follow it. These are the standards.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: We are men, you know, you follow the standard. We're
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: all in this together now. Bruce Cone with a little
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: bit more explicit, explicit couch words, you know. Doug is
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: more of the PG version. So but it's good though.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But they they're they're both great office of mind guys.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: But they find a way to reach everybody on on
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: on the team. And the one thing that I take
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: from both of them, Bruce was real big on everybody
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in the organization has ownership of this. We respect everybody
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: from the guy that's cleaning the bathroom, the guy's cutting
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the grass. Everybody's a superstar. And that's the same thing Doug,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: did you know what I mean? Because it's sets a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: respect level throughout the building that nobody has looked frowned upon.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: No one job is bigger than the next because you
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: want to create that family atmosphere, and I see the similarities.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Both of them have Super Bowl reads as coaches, So hey,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm here. That helps, right, You can show off at
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: ring for sure. Brinson Buckner is whether Jaguars defensive line coach.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: What's your balance of time these days with trying to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: get the scheme going? It's phase one of the off
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: season program. You can have meetings with players free agency.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: The first waves of that, we're busy right on the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: defensive line especially, and then hey, guess what, there's the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: draft coming up in the defensive line names have been
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: at the top of mock drafts there. How do you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: balance your time right now? Oh, it's not balanced. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: all tilted to a football. There's no balancing right now.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's all football. You know. My day starts four thirty
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm here and I'm here in the building,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and I get started when I when I took the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: job and I got here, I came in. I got
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in at seventh, third and night. It was like, oh,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: here go, you're freezing. Let's jump on it, you know
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So we started because the staff actually
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: got together a little late, so it's really not a balance.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: We're we're a full steam ahead with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And you know, it started off with evaluating our guys
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that was here from last year, getting into them. Then
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you're going into free agency. Then all of a sudden,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: all here come to draft, and so you're trying to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: learn those guys. Then you go back into the none
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: let's start trying to teach our guys the new system.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So football is eating up twenty four hours of a day.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Football is getting at least eight ten, eight teen right now,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to get my wife to here and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: there head with his unpacking. But she understands right now
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that football it is the main part right now, just
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: trying to get everything together. So when we hit the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: ground running, we're at full speed. When you contribute to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the draft conversation, is that still ongoing now? Is your
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: input part of that done? Like how do how do
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: assistant coaches contribute to that problems? I think we we
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: contribute all the way through because Trent Trending, those guys
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: do a good job all year looking at guys, trying
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to get this get the ingredients out there for the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: head coached Officeive coordinator coordinator. Who are the shelves trying
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to get the ingredients? And then we come in at
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: suit shelfs and is like, hey, that ingredient takes a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: little bit better than that him. It'll be a lot
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a little more presentable if we have that. And it
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: goes all the way through because things changes. No, no
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: guys get hurt. You you might sign a free agent
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that might take some off, or somebody might pop up
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that you seem like, oh, I could see him in
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville jack Ward uniform helping us. So up until
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that peak is made, we're always open with knowledge because
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you've got to be ready. When Trent called you in there,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you know the given what he wants. Did you work
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: in a restaurant at some point? Are you just eating that? Man?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I just eating that many of them? You can tell
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: eat that many of them. I wasn't saying that. Jaguars
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• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you still big man dancing? By the way, we found
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the video on YouTube the other day and um, there
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was a promo on like NFL network in the mid
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: two thousands. I guess when the network started. You just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I think finished playing or towards the end of your career,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and there you go dancing across the stage. Oh yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I still dance. That's all great d lineman, our skillful dancers,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's a talent. You got
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to have to be a good defensive line, you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: bad slow feet, don't eat you know what I mean.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: You got you gotta stay up on your feet. But
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I'm always doing. I got three younger kids, so there's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: always some kind of TikTok dance going on in the house.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And you know, growing up a lot, I danced a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: lot party around. You know, I'm not the average big guy,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I actually think I sort of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: grew into this bottom like a dB, a wide receiver.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: They just found found out he liked eating a lot too,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and that took over. So it short to change my destiny,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, going down the line. But yes, I danced
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: every noting. And then we're not gonna ask for it now,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Well we'll wait until the practice field and all that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll we'll see it come out. So let's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: get to your group now that you have inherited, you said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the first thing you do is look at free agents.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Then you're popping in, hey, what do you have here
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: on the team? At what point when you're up for
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a job, you know you might be up for a job,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and then you layd the job. Do you get into
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the tape of what you have and and what did
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you inherit on the defensive line? Here are you always
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you know before taking a job or if your name
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is mentioned in their job, Oh, let's let's go see
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: what was in the cupboard. You know what I mean?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, going and looking and actually this year
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: had some insight because we actually played Jacksonville, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: being in Arizona, and you see the guys. Royal Robinson Harris,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a guy that I've admired since he was in Chicago,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, a guy who was an outside linebacker defense
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and finally grew into his body now becoming a tior
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: defensive alignment. Davon was a guy at Ohio State that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I did plenty of background checks on and talking to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: him in interviewing when he came out. Malcolm Brown has
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: been a player since he's been in this league, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: playing nose guard, disrupted three technique. UM, I've had UM.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I had him as Oakland, as a second second guy,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: as a second year player, and you know, Art and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: has really developed, you know over time. Now he's coming
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: into being that player that a lot of people thought
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: he was gonna be coming out of L s U.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And he's matured a lot. And you know the violence
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and the smartness which she's played. And then you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you start throwing in the free agents and I'll let
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: this go to j J. To Foley. You know, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: went to his pro day, you know, doing doing COVID
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and worked him out. So I got a lot of
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: knowledge being around these guys. And what I found out,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you got a good group, got a good group of guys,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you know. And I told him from day one, it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: no magic trick to being successful, and it's not an
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: easy procedure. You know, we got to come in first
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: of all. You gotta you gotta identify and claim what
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you did wrong. You gotta you got to own it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You got to own it. Now let's go correct it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Because all the time, as a D line, you want
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to be the foundation. And I used this analogy. All
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the time people you drive out see beautiful homes. Everybody
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: want to talk about the decorations, what the paint light,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the roof. Don't nobody remember the guys out there that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: was cultivating the ground, laying the foundation, making sure it
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: was thirdy enough to build his house. And that's what
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the defensive line is. And what we gotta do is
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: eliminate the cracks and get rid of all the bad pieces.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So when we laid his foundation, Mike is gonna be
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: able to build a defense that can stand the test
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of time because the defensive line has to be the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: sturdy foundation. Brentson Buckner, whether Chackgar's defensive line coach. A
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: couple more minutes with you here we mentioned Art and Key,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: one of those free agent pickups, but fully filed a Kasi.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: There's a guy that came in here, came in the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: league as a sixth round pick, didn't play his rookie season,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: worked his way up at the end of his time
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in New York as a defensive captain, and gets that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: big free agent deal. It seems like everybody's fired up
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: about what he can bring to this organization and and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: just hearing him talk the other week. I mean it
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: fits right in with the rest of those good guys
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in that room. Yes, and fully is a great guy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Been admiring him for a while, you know. And I'd
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like to tell fans and people don't get caught up
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in the draft. Everybody that gets a helm and as
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a professional football player, everybody can't go number one. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when you get in there and you see a guy,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: he gets in and he grinds and he works, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the one thing he's gonna have with him when he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: comes in it's a chip on his shoulder. Because we
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: all are competitors and we all feel that we should
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: go higher than what we really do. So it drives you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And that's the one thing he did. He built himself
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: up with the Jets. You saw him area get better
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and better and better. He's a physical guy. He's a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: hard hat type of guy. All the great players are
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not the flashy guys that you see on ESPN and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you see those guys, it's somebody else that's doing the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: hard work. And that's where he brings. He brings a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: he brings a grown man mentality. As as I like
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to say, he is his knees on his knees and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: his yes, it's always yes, it's you know, it's straightforward.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But it's good in that in that room because you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: can have the guys that are a little light here
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and keep it light. But also got to have the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: one guy when it's time to go to work. It's
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: time to go to work. But you know, he's been great.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He's super smart, young man, like very ship, very inquisitive.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Most people signed big contracts and they come in and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: they got all the answers. No, he steady, he steadies
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: challenges a coach, I kind of get better. You know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: what do we need to what I need to work on? Coach, Hey,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: these are some things I saw in my game last year.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And as a coach, that's what you want. You know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a guy coming there is begging for knowledge because they
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: all got skilled. Knowledge is what they seek. But then
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you get guys who really seek it and come for
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't help, but ready get your hands
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on those guys. And I'm not gonna ask you about,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you know, individual prospects, that's not fair, but I'm curious
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: about the process of evaluating those prospects when yeah, there's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a combine you're looking at tape from the last couple
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of years, all that, and then they come in for visits.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: We've seen the name reporter that have allegedly come through here.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So what do you want to find out in that
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: day that they're in the building? That you are you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just filling in the goals in the evaluation with them?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Do you just want to sit them down? How much
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: time do you get with some of these guys when
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: they come in? What do you want to know? Personal?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I want to feel out if I like you or not.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to coach somebody I don't like and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be around because you know, we
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: spend so much time together, so you got to have
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that relationship type of guy. I don't want no jerks.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sit there and coach nobody that
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: he don't like me, I don't like him. We don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have nothing coming. So really, when the guy comes and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: sit with me, I pretty much know what you can
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: do as a football player. I talked to you and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: see how you respond. You know, do you have tough skin,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: do you laugh? What you like to do? It? You
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: got a family? What drives you? Because me as a coach,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I got to know all those variables before I coach you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's not just you walking here. I coach you and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you go home. I gotta know if you if something
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: wrong with you, something happening at home. I got the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: baby to know that, and I got to I gotta
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: be sensitive to that because I tell these guys all
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the time when when you sit in that room as
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the final jat war, I've entrusted everybody in this organization
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: with their job. I gave it to you because I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: told Doug and I told Trent, this guy can help
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: us win. Same thing. You got to trust your family
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to me that I can give you everything you need
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to take care of your family. And so I want
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to see those guys who are gonna be ready to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: reciprocate that. You know, and some guys coming here and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: be great talent. But I don't really want to coach
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: this guy because he's gonna be a me guy. You know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in my room, it's gonna be us. You know, on
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: this team is gonna be us. And so when you
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: sit down, when you get that, then when you go
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: back to Doug and Trent, hey, he's a Jaguar, he's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: an US guy. It's all about what can he do
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for the team. He wants to be a star in
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: his role. He don't have to be the main attraction.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I tell the guys in the room, Tito Jackson never
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: let us on. But he got very grammy that Michael
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: got when it was Jackson five. He got every he
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: got everywhere. So sometimes you have to be the background single.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get all the wards. You might not get
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the hold the mic, but you get all the benefits
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and those the guys that you really want. When you're
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a team, it's about the it's about the team. Yes
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: there were one, two, three, four, five and the Jackson five.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I have last to checks right. Yes, yes, that's a
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it's a team effort. How exciting? Now next week final
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: thought here, next week's phase two and you're on the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: field with the guy. There's no helmets. It's not real
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: football yet, but it's as close as week better a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: long time. How excited are you to actually get out
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: on the grass with this team. Um, I'm super excited.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Because knowledge is not acknowledge until the supply. So we're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in the we're in the room. I can tell you
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: about the technique. I can show you film, but not
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: let me go see you do it. That's another evaluation step.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: That's another way to sit there getting it on film,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: making sure you know everything is right. Well, let's correct
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: your step. So, but that's football. Football is played in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the grass. It's on the grasses. You out there, you're
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: getting the field back into it and that's when the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: excitement comes. And that's another valued process, evaluation process. With me.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I won't see the guys that look at it as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not obligated to be here. This is an opportunity
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: for me to get better every day. That's when you
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: know you got a good bunch when they come here
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and they're they're ready to go to work. And what
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: my job is and what I pride myself and I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: want to make it fun because I want you to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: baby to do something Thursday that you couldn't do on Wednesday.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So you look forward to going out there and getting
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: better than before you knew it. You could start to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: see what's coming on the horizon because you're putting in
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: all the work. Coach is great to see you. Thanksfually
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: inside you might have I think you auditioned well. I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a regular segment on some of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: these shows. I thank you very much. I love man.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I'm ha to be a jag War man. I told
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the guys before, I've never won as a visited player
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: on the other sideline, so I know what Duval County
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is about when these jack Ars a rocket and roller.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: So that's look look forward to doing. Former Steeler actually
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: with the Steelers. You you played pretty well a couple
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: of games against the Jacks, but I lost the first
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: one ever down here. Hurt everybody. You know, it was
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: hard coming down here playing this Jack Wars ere loone
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: them years though, But it's great now I'm on this side,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: so let's get it going. It's coming soon. The Jaguars
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: are future focused and ready for a new look in
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: twenty to join us at the bank this season, lock
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: in your seats at Jaguars dot com. Slash tickets were
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: called nine oh four six three three two thousand. Jeff
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Logman back in a moment, Seth Galita a pro football
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: focus coming up shortly and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: on a Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lagman.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Back with us now Brentson Buckner, the Jaguars defensive line coach. Yes,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I told him at the end, I think you passed
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the audition. We're looking forward to interviewing him a lot now.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: He's fun. He's a lot of fun. And uh, I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: got kind of hold against him a little bit that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he's a Clemson guy. Oh yeah, you know Clemson used
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to beat up my Virginia Cavaliers quite often while after Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that wasn't just when you
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: were there. Yeah, but he's uh, you go back just
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: real quick. People remember him probably, and he mentioned his
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: days with his Steelers. I think the most dominant period
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that he had as a player was when he was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in Carolina when he played alongside Julius Peppers and I
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: think it was Rucker and then uh, I pulled it
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: up Chris Jenkins. I mean those four guys that were
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: in Carolina, and that was when Carolina was really good
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and they went to the Super Bowl and had dom Capers.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I mean they were they were bawling, and so Buckner
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: was a part of that defensive line. It was so
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: good about that. So his final thought there, hey, you know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: never played well in Jacksonville. It's it's true, like he
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he only was part of one winning team in one, two, three, four,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: five trips to Jacksonville. Losses with the Steelers in lost
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: with the Steelers in ninety six, was Cincinnati in nineties seven.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Here we dominated Cincinnati to lost with San Francisco at
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: ninety nine here forty one to three, and then Carolina
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: beat the jackson oh three here in Jacksonville. So there
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, he did have a whole lot of success.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, that's why it's supposed to be home
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: field advantage. You're supposed to have that here, right, I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that's way it's supposed to be. Yes, And I'm looking
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: forward to see his interaction with this group of need
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to get back for sure. Hey, it's one week till
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL draft logs. Pro Football Focus recently launched a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: special podcast here. He's entitled hutch Guess who it's about
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: um Aidan Hutches. Yes, correct, It's about his childhood, the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: early years at Michigan, and the incredible one season he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: had as a Heisman finalist. Seth Galina is senior football
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: analysts with Pro Football Focus. He's been locked into the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: draft and with a week to go, he joins us
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: on the program. Right now, Hey, Seth, it's nice to
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: talk to you. Thanks for the time today and anytime.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of wearing a I don't know what color
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing. I think it's kind of close to teal,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So I think I'm, um, you know, trying to lock
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: in here with the Jaguars stuff. Well, we appreciate that. Um,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars for a second straight year of
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Everybody's watching the Jaguars right
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: now to see what happens, because, as we were talking
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: about log An earlier, it's kind of clear as mud
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: right now, there's all these different morks with different names.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: What's your feeling right now? I mean, I still think
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Hutchison is going to be the pick. I do think
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire in regards to Travon Walker
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: potentially being the pick. I really, I mean, like I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: like I said, I do think it's gonna be Hutchison.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can really go wrong with this
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: pick in the sense that there's I don't know, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: want to say six to seven players who this season
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: could be a number one overall pick. So then you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: just got to figure out, Okay, what position do we
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: feel like we need? Um a player at the most,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it seems for the Jaguars to be at edge because
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you're hearing about Hutchinson and obviously you're hearing about spont
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Walker play in the same position ever take so I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: think that's where they go. But I don't think you
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: can go wrong. Um. At the end of the day,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you've got to hope you pick the right one. But
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in terms of the process and everything, you know, there's
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you have your court of back already. UM. If honestly,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: if you want to go safety, you want to go corner,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I think that would be fine too, but I'll tackle
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for sure. They could go UM, but obviously it seems
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like Hutchinson is the pick. So if you if you
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: look at these tackles that are in the in the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: draft and mainly at the top of the draft, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it seems to be two of them, which one do
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you like the best? Do you like the one from
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: North Carolina State or the one from Alabama. I like
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the one from Mississippi State the best. Yeah, I think
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: there's I think I would put all three of them
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: in that kind of Tier one group of tackles that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: to me, they're all top ten picks. And so just
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because I like Charles Cross the best doesn't mean it
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Really, I think you have to live
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: in a world where let's say the Jaguars do take
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: an edge player at at at one, wherever you are
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: picking after that, you're just you're just saying, hey, let
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: me get one of those guys, and they're all do
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: something a little different. Obviously with with Charles Cross, um,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I thought he was the best tackle in Now we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: have issues in twenty nine and twenty You can play
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: those off when you look when you look at the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: history of him there at Missipy State, you can play
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: them off a bit coaching change and all that stuff.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: With a Quandu and Neil you have a kind of
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a bigger sample size of really good play. Um. But
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, Cross was a Cross was incredible
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: in one I think once they figured out what was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: going on there, playing a different system than he thought
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he was going to be playing in his career in
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State as they went to Mike Leech from Joe moorehead.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So I thought he was he was. I really thought
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he was amazing in one, but the other two are
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: great too. Like I said, top all three of them
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: are top ten players. Be happy whichever whichever one you get.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I think one of the most interesting prospects far as
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: where he will go in the draft, is the safety
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: from Notre Dame South Hamilton. He seems to have kind
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: of a or seems to be kind of a little
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: bit of a cross between the safety and a linebacker.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: He's got the size or at least the height, it
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: seems like to be like a linebacker. He's got very
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: good ball skills. Many people have him rated as the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: best prospect in the draft. But when I look at
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the forty yard dash time, the speed watching his film,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. Uh, what do you think of him?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And where do you think he'll go? Yeah, I wonder
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: if he's you know, with that forty time. Now, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: will say that his flying twenty I just saw tweet
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: about this day actually, so it kind of eased my
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: concerns a bit. Where his his flying twenties of the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: last twenty yards of his forty were very good. So
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: maybe it's an acceleration thing, which obviously, you know you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a safety, you want to have a great acceleration, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: clearly something is is needs to be worked on in
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: in terms of his start, but he is. I think
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he is still a fast player, and you can kind
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: of see them in the film. What I like about
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Hamilton's it really is the modern safety, right He's not
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: locked into being either a deep state key or an
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in the box safety or a man coverage safety or
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: something like that, right, I think he can do a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I thought what they did at Notre
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Dame with him, you know, Clark Lee was the defensive
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: coordinator one year and the Marcus Dreaman the next year,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, just like moving him around, you know, playing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: week safety. I think that's going to be a very
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: interesting position going forward in the NFL. Schematically being able
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to double weak side receivers, being able to come down
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to the box when you need to, being able to
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: play in the deep center field when you have to,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: but again not locked into a certain role, just being
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: versatile enough to do that. And I think another guy
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: like that who honestly might fall. I don't think you
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: should fall in the second round. But Lewis sne from
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Georgia is another player who has that versatility you really
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: have two really good safeties in this in this draft class.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Sascalina from Pro Football Focus give him a follow at
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: PFF Underscore SETH. Couple thoughts with you here before we
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: let you go here. You know, Jaguars have the thirty
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: third overall pick two. Um, they're still kind of looking
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: at feels like for that deep threat receiver. First off,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it feels like it's a pretty deep wide receiver class
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: at least from what you see and read. Maybe not
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: at number one overall, but thirty three that could be
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: in play. Well the Jacks, could they find another interior
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman somewhere at that point to like a lender bomb?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Does he fall that far? That's two big questions in one.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Let's start with wide receiver. What's what do you make
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: over all of this class and could that be in
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: play at thirty three? Yeah, I think wide receiver is
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: one of these position groups that not just this year,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and we've seen the past few years, and honestly, we're
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: gonna see the next ten years or so where every
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: class of wide receivers coming out is going to be
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a very good class just because this is how football
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: is played now. High school kids are in past heavy offenses.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: They're going to play seven on seven in the springtime,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: they're getting all these reps, and then obviously they're going
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to college, and you know, college offenses are also um,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you know, getting past heavier as we go on. So
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you're going to just have a lot of receivers, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: it seems like we're we continue to find really good
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: ones in that twenty to pick five type of range.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So in this one, you know, there's obviously you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you're thinking, you know, down the field vertical threats. Jamison
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Williams is the top probably the top guy in this class.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously we're not thinking about the Jaguars getting him. He
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: should go on the team somewhere. Someone like Christian Watson
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, another flyer um there could be
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: available at thirty three, and the sky More from Western
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Mission could be available at thirty three, another speed receiver
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: down the field. I think the interesting with the receiver
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: class this year is when does the first receiver get taken.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I see them all as guys who in that Tier
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: one group who would be somewhere in the teens, But
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the team feels like they need a guy early. And
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I mean I've seen this before, Garrett Wilson in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: wide receiver from Ohioud State to the Jets at four.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, that might start the run. And
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: now if you're the Jaguars at thirty three saying hey,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: we need a receiver, um, some of the guys you
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: might like might be already gone. So if every year
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it seems like the first round has some type of surprise,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: whether it be a surprise from a team trading up,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: or a player being selected, or even possibly a player
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that was really undervalued who ended up being maybe one
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: of the best players in the draft in the first round,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: do you see any surprises on the horizon. I mean,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I know there's a player that I really like, um
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the defensive end from Penn State, Arnold Evi Ketty. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: think his there's I've seen such a wide range in
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: terms of, you know, ranking on a big board, even
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: through mock drafts. I truly believe it's a top fifteen
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: overall type of player, and it is a really good
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: edge rusher class as well. So the second to me
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: he falls past even twenty, you're looking at a guy
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: who me is great value and it's honestly going to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be a starter. Look, who knows, but I feel like
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a starter right away. So that
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: would be my surprise. UM, either surprised that he goes
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: as high as I think you should go. UM if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: another if you know an NFL team feel the same way,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: or this is a surprise where he goes in the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: late first or second round and then he's putting up
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: sacks from day one whatever team he goes for. Well,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you're on the record now, we're gonna hold you to that, Seth.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Come Draft night a week from now. What do you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: have coming up in the next week getting ready for
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the draft? Seth, Yeah, we have. Obviously you guys talked
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: about it the hutch Podcast. You can go on PF
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: or go on YouTube and find that and listen to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the Future Jaguar I I would assume, and Hutchinson talked
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: about his life and yeah, I'm just where. We have
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: our draft show Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, all day
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: draft recap show Sunday. So it's all draft, all the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: time at PFF right now, and no doubt about it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Thanks for taking some time out at PFF. Underscore Seth.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Seth Galina from Pro Football Focus we'll talk to you soon. Seth,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: see you guys. We're back in just a moment. Blogs.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the NFL and we'll like recap
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: some of the things we just heard from Seth there
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: about the Jaguars. I think it's an interesting guy to
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: talk with and p FF is uh, it's a very
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: different way of evaluating things sometimes because they use a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: lot of metrics. They don't do you even know what
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that is? Well, I've got three minutes to find out
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: during this metrics you know, I was told there would
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: be no math. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 45:25
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• 45:36
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• 45:47
  Speaker 1: a bank field. Concrete blocks are going up, and I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: mean multiple stories worth of concrete blocks. They keep expanding
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the footprint of concrete being boored and things are happening,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: which is cool and it's uh, it's it's very cool. Hey.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned YouTube, Yes, did you see
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the Hunt? The Hunt? Yes, absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. The next edition.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just a little while away, I think, But yeah,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you can check out the first two episodes of The Hunt.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: But the incredible behind the scenes access granted by the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: football department and getting ready for the combine and then
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: free agency and everything around it. Access like that. I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I think for for the longest period of time,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the NFL teams always thought that it was just you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I can't let anybody in as you know, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: they'll figure out what we're doing. I mean, come on,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it's not rocket science, it's football. And then I think
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the access it just it just makes fans even more
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: interested in the great sport. You don't show the draft
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: board or anything, and it would be nice. I mean what,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'd love to see
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: everybody's draft board after the fact. Would be kind of fun, right,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Hey see who was ranked? Right? What what I mean
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: telling honestly, wouldn't it be cool if you had, if
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: if the NFL required every team to turn in their
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: draft board before the draft, and you had all the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: teams draft boards, you know, and not not from the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: standpoint of trying to tell somebody what somebody's gonna pick,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: but just out of curiosity about how different people are valued. Well,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: you know what would happen. Then you would send the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: fake board in and the real board would be hidden
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: behind some curtain. That's what would happen maybe, but I
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: mean it would be it would be very interesting to
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: compare just the different assigned values that they have for
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: different players. I mean, because I mean, and it has
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to be extremely varied, right, I mean that's human beings
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: are different. They think different. By the way, this afternoon,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew put out his second mock draft. Who
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: do you have a Number? One? Trayvon Trayvon Walker? Still
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: he's sticking with it, sticking with Walker. I just I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. He's got great closing speed,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he's strong, got super strong hands, he's very raw as
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher, and he's got positional flexibility. I think
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: he's a very good player. But the production, you know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: year after year after year, I don't know if it's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: been there, but I can tell you this, he's gonna
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: be a really good football player, really good football player.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And I think he's more of a of a natural
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: three four end. And then once they get to four down.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside, he can
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: do either one. Let's go around the National Football League.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Only a couple of nuggets today. The NFL schedule announcement
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: date has been announced. A lot of announcing going on,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and yeah, because they're gonna, you know, put it over
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a few different days. May fourth, they will announce the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: international games, of course, including the Jaguars at Whimbley, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: then May twelve, the full schedule released. There are a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: couple other dates where the first game of the year's
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: announced and then select games. So it's a long drawn
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: out announcements create snow. I mean that's yes, it does.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: The The NFL off season has become the NFL out
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: of season and the information still comes falling. And that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes the NFL great is free agency and
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  Speaker 1: the draft and the schedule announcement. It makes it makes
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  Speaker 1: it very interesting all year. Deebo Samuel requesting a trade
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  Speaker 1: from the forty Niners, show me the money, would you, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what would you give up? I mean, would you draft pickwise? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Or would you even want to? Oh? Well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's a great player and he's got great flexibility. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to have him. But what's what's the cost
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  Speaker 1: take the Niners gonna give him up? Come on, No,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: they don't want to give him up. But what's the
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  Speaker 1: cost your left arm? No, I'm not giving up my
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  Speaker 1: left arm. Probably what's gonna need it? Yeah? Loves great show,
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  Speaker 1: Seth Galina Pro Football Focus. Thanks for his time and
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  Speaker 1: next Thurston Yeah, and Jaguars Radio. Oh yeah, we'll do
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• 49:58
  Speaker 1: be what six to seven to midnight, seven mines seven
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