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On Point: Golden Dreams · On Point With Jaclyn Jeffrey

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  SPEAKER_00: This episode is sponsored by KMS Team at Compass.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to On Point with Weston today, where we introduce you to extraordinary people with remarkable stories that have the opportunity to help us change how we see the world and how we live our lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: So today we're going to talk about dreams, but not the kind you have when you sleep.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about the kind that are like a part of you, either for a day, a minute, uh, or decades, and talk more about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're going to get right into the story instead of all the background.
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  SPEAKER_01: But first, we have uh Wendy Steinberg here, who's the creator of the Golden Dreams Project.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're the chief communications officer at River Spring Living.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh Phyllis, you silver and you reside there, correct?
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  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Phyllis.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_03: In the independent living part of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that clarification.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, Phyllis, I saw your story in the New York Times, and at 80 years old, you decided to fulfill a lifelong dream, apparently, or a many years dream, of I guess you would say, captaining a tugboat.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what happened and why, and how did this all unfold?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, my dream was not to captain it, it was just to be on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: But we'll go get back to the captaining part of it, how that happened.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, my husband and I are from Midwest, and we moved to New York 45 years ago, and we were very lucky to get an apartment that overlooked the Hudson River.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I did work, and my husband worked, but there were times that we were home, obviously, and we would see the tugboats, and I especially fell in love with them.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just thought they were the cutest things.
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  SPEAKER_03: They have character, they have a special look, and many of them are red.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's my favorite color.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I just was astounded how in this day, with so many things replaced by how should I say, automation, now maybe AI, that the tugboat is still an integral part of all the waterways here in New York and elsewhere.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's to be commended.
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  SPEAKER_03: They should be honored because they've been around for many, many, many generations.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I would just look at each one that went by.
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  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't see the close-up.
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  SPEAKER_03: I imagined it was like a messy ship boat on top.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I had all these visions.
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  SPEAKER_03: And this ride really clarified it's a beautiful boat, pristine condition, because the crew is responsible for making the glass sparkle so you can see through it.
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  SPEAKER_03: For rinsing the, even though wood is not allowed on the main part of the boat on the outside because the salt water can harm it, it's still rinsed every day at the end of the day.
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  SPEAKER_03: And inside is just wonderful, charming, and delightful.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I just that I always wonder what it looked like.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I got a chance to really see it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And to work it because I was asked to unwind the ropes, and my gosh, what they fit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I read that that you got to untie the ropes for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, what did it feel like to you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Not just the act of being on the tugboat, but having had this passion and this dream, and then you know, here you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's it's magical.
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  SPEAKER_03: The dream is magical because it is not a tourist attraction.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are not able to get on a tugboat and pay for it and go around.
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  SPEAKER_03: This was special.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Wendy made the impossible become reality, and I couldn't believe she was able to do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there were there were um challenges, and she couldn't go into that.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's her department, but I know that she mentioned a couple to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: So how she made this happen was really uh how should I say, some people, many people, want to pay millions of dollars to go into space, but I have the ride on my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was Disney World, and space rolled up to one with into one, and I rode to the Statue of Liberty and came back.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I the picture of me with Captain's hat is looking up, and I'm thinking, people are gonna think I'm looking at a bug or looking at something flying by, and whatever.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was looking up because it's Christine in the in the boat, but I was right in front and near the Statue of Liberty, and I was looking at Miss Liberty.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm Mrs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Liberty, I call myself Mrs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Liberty, and it was just it was something out of this hemisphere.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what surprised you?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, of all the things that you anticipated, what surprised you the most?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, to be on a boat that is so strong, I've always been fascinated by that.
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  SPEAKER_03: How like the train, the little engine that could, the little engine that how does this small boat, and it's not that small, there are different sizes, be able to push the barges of an enormous size, and to also learn, I asked a lot of questions.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be tested, but I laugh.
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  SPEAKER_03: I really enjoy the answers on the spot.
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  SPEAKER_03: And as you know, there was a photographer and reporter from the New York Times, and she was not shy, she asked a lot of questions, and the boat that the barge that we were seeing, he helped, and the owner of the McAllister Company, the owner himself was on the boat with us.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was really unique, and I felt very honored.
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  SPEAKER_03: I felt royalty was with us, and he's a fifth generation owner, and he and Captain Jackie were so patient and kind and answered all our questions.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there's really, I've always wondered, how did they attach it?
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  SPEAKER_03: They're not gonna use Elmer's glue, they're in the middle of the water.
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  SPEAKER_03: How did they attach themselves to this gigantic barge?
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  SPEAKER_03: And all those questions were answered.
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  SPEAKER_03: There was such an education, and the crew, he, Jackie, the Captain Jackie, learned like an apprentice, like you hear with blacksmiths and people that do other things, and seamstress and everything start out.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's how he started out.
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  SPEAKER_03: But there are schools that have programs with degrees to be able to do this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: I who would know that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is such a great sweet story, Phyllis.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just curious, now that you've had a chance to do it, um what would you say it really meant to you having the chance to do it?
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  SPEAKER_01: And was it everything that you imagined that it would be?
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  SPEAKER_03: Beyond, as I mentioned, Disney World and Space All rolled up into one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh I guess it's just very, very special.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel so honored to have been part of this and to have watched and reacted.
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  SPEAKER_03: First, they came up to my apartment, another staff member from our area, and just wanted to see how it was being acclimated.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was only here two and a half months.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and they were asking questions, how do you like it?
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  SPEAKER_03: What are your interests and your hobbies?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, I was spending a lot of time in the apartment because I was really organizing things and still unpacking.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I wasn't participating in a lot of things, and they were trying to tell me things that were that I might catch my fancy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then all of a sudden, um, Wendy talked about the dream program, and I had only been there two and a half months, and I was honored that they came up and will go on to see how I'm doing, and she explained it to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I just thought, oh, that's nice.
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  SPEAKER_03: I bet everybody gets this time with a couple of staff members and hears about the dream.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I just thought, well, that's lovely, and they said goodbye.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I said, Well, I'll never hear from them again.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll just see them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And all of a sudden, under a ruse, I was in a room with a friend waiting for our executive director to come and talk to us, saying and doing this is late.
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  SPEAKER_03: You should see all the people going into his room.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're never gonna see him.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want to do a walk.
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  SPEAKER_03: All of a sudden, eight women coming with hats.
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  SPEAKER_03: George, the person that I'm talking about, the head of our group, walks in.
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  SPEAKER_03: One woman has 10 gold balloons, and she and Wendy gave me an envelope, a gold envelope with you, your dream has been fulfilled.
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  SPEAKER_03: There are so many parts to this, and you know how you get a gift and you feel that it keeps on giving?
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  SPEAKER_03: This has been giving me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was online and then it was in print, and then I was invited to the trustee board, the board meeting of the trustees.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've only been here eight months.
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  SPEAKER_03: They wanted me to captain Phyllis.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's just so exciting.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have not stopped smiling, even on gloomy days.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, Phyllis, this is such a great, great story and a great intro, Wendy, into the Golden Dreams project.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, where did this come from?
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  SPEAKER_01: How does it unfold?
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, talk to us about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so this program launched last year, and we're at River Spring Living, which is a nonprofit senior living community in the Bronx, and we're always looking for new ideas to enhance quality of life for our residents.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so um, I came up with this idea that our residents still have a lot of dreams to fulfill and a lot of firsts to discover.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we found that you know, residents in their younger days were really busy raising families, making things meet, you know, a lot of them lived through the depression.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't a time in their younger days to splurge on themselves and to be adventurous because it was just day-to-day, you know, and so now that they're older, um, they have time for themselves and to experience things that they never had a chance to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's the genesis of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And let me can I just stop you for one second?
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  SPEAKER_01: There were many things you could have come up with in that spirit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, do you have a did this come from somewhere or some interest that you had?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, was there something behind it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or it just happened?
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  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, no.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was um going for a walk with my son and my dog one day, and I told him, you know, let's think, let's do some brainstorming, let's think of some ideas, and we came up with a lot of different ideas, and this is the one that really stuck with us.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I presented it um to our our um our president and our CEO, who is the one who really encouraged us to come up with ideas, and um can let us, you know, let me just run with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um I can't do it by myself, so I formed a golden dream team, um, which is about six people from different parts of the organization.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think the connecting thread is that each one of us um has a lot of connections with our residents um and interactions with our residents so that we can really um, learn what from them, and and learn about them so we can develop these dreams.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, what are the mechanics of the program?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, is this an ongoing thing, a once-a-month thing?
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  SPEAKER_01: How does it how does it actually work?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's about quality, not quantity.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's not that we're like, okay, we need to have a dream this month.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's that's not what it's about.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really um these dreams just come up as as you know as we learn about them.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the way it happens is on several fronts.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have this team and we talk one-on-one with our residents as we did with Phyllis to learn about them, you know, learn about what their passions are, what they would love to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it it does not, it's not a five-minute conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were chatting with Phyllis for quite a while in her apartment, learning about her, and then and this kind of discovery process is what all of a sudden, you know, the um tugboat just kind of came up naturally in our conversation, and that was like a germ of an idea.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we're like, hey, maybe we can make this happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, so we do a lot of one-on-one, very in-depth conversations with our residents.
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  SPEAKER_02: We also have big jumbo-sized gold boxes um at different parts of um our campus, where we have little forms that um people can fill out to say what their name is, what their golden dream is, they can fill it out for themselves, for a friend, that could be a family member filling it out, it could be a staff member, and then they insert it in the golden box, and then we uh we look at that um once a month.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we collect it and we talk about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um once we get a germ of an idea, the team you know talks it through and say, okay, so what could that look like?
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  SPEAKER_02: So I didn't know anything, obviously, about tugboats after talking with Phyllis, but I did my research and I discovered that there was actually a tugboat association.
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  SPEAKER_02: So just a cold call.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just emailed out of the blue um the tugboat association and told them about the Golden Dreams program and about Phyllis, and they wrote back and they said, Okay, let's put the word out to our members in the tugboat world, and they did, and then the McAllisters um were so kind and generous and said, We're on board, we'll make this happen um for Phyllis.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's just a lot of kindness um associated with this program.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it sounds like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, what are some other dreams that you've had a chance thus far to fulfill?
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  SPEAKER_02: I was telling you that these dreams are really grounded and really meaningful.
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  SPEAKER_02: They are not trivial things, and that was something that was really um powerful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you don't know what's you don't know what the dreams are gonna be, but then once they start happening, it was like wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: So our first golden dream was for a woman named Jacqueline, who was 94 at the time and a Holocaust survivor, and she was only permitted to she was only only had education until age 12, because during the war she was not permitted to go to school.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it always bothered her.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was very much connected to her self-esteem and her self-worth not having education, and so she wanted to go to college.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we are fortunate in that we had a neighboring campus of a university, University of Mount St.
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  SPEAKER_02: Vincent, and we reached out to the president and we said, you know, how can we create a college experience for Jacqueline?
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  SPEAKER_02: And we did, and she took two um one-on-one courses with professors, one in um French language, because that was her native language, and one in poetry because she loved poetry, and so she had these one-on-one sessions with the professors, and then she watched a scrimmage, a women's basketball scrimmage, and then at the end of the day, um in full regalia, the president and the provost gave her an honorary degree, and her grandchildren were there, and she says to us that she always wanted to be somebody and now she is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, wow, at 94, at 94, and you know, so we're just all bawling our eyes out, you know, just um overcome with emotion.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then there's a woman named Carol who has Parkinson's, and when you have Parkinson's, you're very much at a risk for falls.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um but when we talked to her about the program, we you know, she told us in an instant, she said, I want to go skydiving.
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  SPEAKER_02: She apparently always wanted to go skydiving since she was a teenager.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we're like, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, um, and so they have indoor skydiving places, um, iFly.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I contacted iFly, and um, we went very, you know, first thing in the morning, so she had the whole place to herself.
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  SPEAKER_02: Her sister came along to watch.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were all like, oh my god, what is gonna happen here?
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  SPEAKER_02: We were just nervous as could be for Phyllis, and yet she was fearless, so fearless.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, she the gentleman, you know, at iFly, you know, told her the whole how it works, and he said, Well, how high do you want to go?
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  SPEAKER_02: She said, As high as it as possible, as high as it goes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she did.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we're all holding our breath, and she was floating on air.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, when she came out, she said, Carol, how did you feel?
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  SPEAKER_02: And she said, I felt free.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like she didn't have to worry about falling because the air was keeping her afloat.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, that was another golden dream we did.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'll just share one other one that we did um was for a woman, um, Shirley, who used to dance around her house with her husband um in her days.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what they would do.
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  SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately, uh her leg had to be amputated, and she lost a lot of her confidence in in dance and didn't dance um after she lost her leg.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when she got uh once she got outfitted with a new prosthetic leg, we took her to the Arthur Marie dance studio and she got to dance again for the first time in decades.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh so you know, um I get very emotional about this because it's really transformative, these experiences, and I had no idea no idea that this be at this kind of level.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I was gonna ask you, uh, Wendy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, having um initiated these experiences, the ones you've mentioned and and other ones as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, what how do you feel?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, how does it make you feel seeing all this happen for people?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so incredibly powerful to see the impact that these experiences have on each one of our residents.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's just so incredibly gratifying and just it's it's incredible.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a great idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: One question that I had for you, um, I mean, obviously there's an impact on you, and there's an impact on you, Phyllis, and others who are actually fulfilling a dream, but has there been like uh residual impact on other residents, even if they're not fulfilling a dream, just seeing what's happening around them?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think people really um they were all rooting for me, and I wore my cap, my captain's cap, which a friend has sent me along with nautical earrings of different kinds, and uh, and I wore them.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: And everybody was calling me captain, and they were all asking me how things were going.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we're signed tables here for breakfast and dinner.
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  SPEAKER_03: Those are the two meals we eat in the dining room together, and my table was just in on every step of the way, and so excited, and one wanted to be down here to see me all on the day.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_03: We left very early in the morning, but we kind of missed each other, and they're all rooting for me and wanting to hear the details and every everything that I'm doing now, as I mentioned, and it's open doors, and I'm I I feel like I'm on a surfboard with waves under me, and I'm riding those waves, and I'll ride them as far as it goes, but I'm still gonna have this in my heart and on my mind, and talk about it with my friends, my table mates, and I'm okay because I like to step away and have somebody else get the limelight and do all these things that I've been doing.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: There's definitely been a lot of support for it from the residents, as Phyllis said.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um I've seen that in the other um uh you know, examples, you know, the other residents who have had their dreams come true.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: The so the the other residents were just so excited and so supportive that that it's happening for them.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's really lifting everyone up to it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it sounds like it.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: So let me ask you, Wendy, um what what dreams do you have coming up that you're working either on having fulfilled but not yet implemented, or that you're working to try to make happen?
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  SPEAKER_02: There's several in in motion.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, they'll come through.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um one woman we found out um is an archaeologist by education, but she never did it um from her profession because she felt she couldn't make a living being an archaeologist, so she wound up being an accountant, but she um is very passionate about archaeology.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um I'm in the research mode now.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've reached out to several archaeological um associations to see if we can arrange for her to go on a dig um because she said that that's something that she would love to do.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: So um I'm working on that.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um and we also have um we have a resident who is very passionate of she's about rap, rap music.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: And um so which is kind of you know, um, it was unexpected, also, but she's really passionate about it.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: So we're trying to see what we can do about chance the rapper is gonna be in town in August.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: So reaching out to different rappers to see if maybe they would visit her or let her go behind the scenes at a concert.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, it's a work in progress, but that's another one.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have another another one who is a super fan um of the Knicks, major Knicks super fan.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: So seeing if we can do something with MSG maybe for next season.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: So to be continued.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, wow, those are just you know, it's not often that I get to do these interviews and I just I don't even know what to say.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just keep smiling.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's just there's it's just pure 100% sweetness and goodness uh for what's happening and what what you're sharing.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: So let me ask you, this is for each of you, uh, for the people listening, whether it's about dreams, whatever it is, you know, when you think about the program and the experiences, what what's one thing, uh Wendy, that you would like listeners to walk away with?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: No matter what your age, uh it's you're it's never too late to experience a first.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, older adults have a lot of living to do.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: And um, we're here to help them, you know, do that.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: And for you, Phyllis?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I would say the same thing.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um like you're never too old to be old and be proud of it and go for it.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: And if one dream is not fulfilled, create another dream.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: And we all have limitations as we age, but with those limitations, you can still do a lot more than just rocking in a rocking chair.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: So we're trying to prove that, very true.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm not gonna add anything to that because I think that is just the best and sweetest note.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: And Wendy, what you and your team have done is amazing.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: And Phyllis, I'm so thrilled for you and uh and your other friends at what they get to experience.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: And as I said, to have a story that's just simply sweet.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's it's just sweet and it's wonderful, is great.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I so so appreciate you sharing it with us, and I wish you all the best.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for having me.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Take care.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you to KMS team at Compass for sponsoring this episode.