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Black Sabbath's Music Inspired By A Dark "Priest" Entity? · Cosmic Peach

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Speaker 2: The little fucker he attacks, just attacks unprovoked. Five strokes
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Speaker 2: my hand off with its talents, just sharpening its talents
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Speaker 2: on me. I'm not okay with that. There was one
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Speaker 2: time when I was little, I went over to my
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Speaker 2: to its name, just trying to pet it, just trying
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Speaker 2: to get a little pet in, because that's what they're for,
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Speaker 2: house cats, house dogs, domesticated for our pleasure, our petting pleasure.
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Speaker 2: Was probably five years old, just trying to get a
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Speaker 2: little pet in. Wasn't pulling its ears, wasn't yanking its tail,
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Speaker 2: just trying to pet it. It turned around and hooked
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Speaker 2: its entire cloth through my arm. Two puncture wounds where
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Speaker 2: it went in and scooped a chunk out, and where
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Speaker 2: it came out on the other side. I bled and
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Speaker 2: bled and bled and bled, had seventy six Cinderella band
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Speaker 2: I never forgot that. I think Sase ran away one day,
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Speaker 2: and good riddance. Hope to see you in the by
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Speaker 2: and by. Actually I don't hope to see Sasse in
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Speaker 2: the by and by. But I just could never become
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Speaker 2: fond of an animal who made attempts on my life
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Speaker 2: just for trying to show it affection. Does that make
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Speaker 2: any sense to you? We domesticated these things to have
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Speaker 2: them heinously attack us for giving them affection. It's a
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Speaker 2: little bit of a sadist type of endeavor, don't you think.
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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy thirty days on me. I also
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Speaker 2: wanted to ask because I saw some comments on the Pagereon.
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Speaker 2: A few of you were talking about a fellow podcaster
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Speaker 2: has a podcast called The Unfiltered Rise Podcast. It's hosted
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Speaker 2: by a woman named Heidi. She also covers similar to
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Speaker 2: my show, conspiracy and et cetera. A lot of you
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Speaker 2: were asking where she was. Hadn't seen her, and this
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Speaker 2: is news to me. I didn't know there was anything wrong.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you could drop a comment on this show. There's
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Speaker 2: something weird going on with that situation. I would like
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Speaker 2: do have a clip from Dennis. He sent me a
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Speaker 2: clip that he found of Ashton Kutcher Ashton Couture the
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Speaker 2: Butcher on YouTube. Something ab out some kind of website
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Speaker 2: for stopping child trafficking or something like this, and he's
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Speaker 2: like speaking about it and he's acting like he's all
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Speaker 2: concerned and shit, so real quick, I wanted to play
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Speaker 2: that clip and talk about it a little bit. Roll one.
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Speaker 5: My day job is as the chairman and the co
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Speaker 5: founder of Thorn. We build software to fight human trafficking
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Speaker 5: and the sexual exploitation of children, and that's our core mission.
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Speaker 5: My other day job is that of the father of
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Speaker 5: two a two month old and a two year old,
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Speaker 5: And as part of that job that I take very seriously,
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Speaker 5: I believe that it is my effort to defend their
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Speaker 5: right to pursue happiness and to ensure a society and
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Speaker 5: government that defends it as well. But the right to
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Speaker 5: pursue happiness for so many is stripped away. It's raped,
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Speaker 5: it's abused, it's taken by force, fraud, or cohersion, and
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Speaker 5: it is sold for the momentary happiness of another. I've
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Speaker 5: seen video content of a child that's the same age
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Speaker 5: as mine being raped by an American man that was
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Speaker 5: a sex tourist in Cambodia. And this child was so
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Speaker 5: conditioned by her environment that she thought she was engaging
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Speaker 5: in play. I've been on the other end of a
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Speaker 5: phone call from my team asking for my help because
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Speaker 5: we had received a call from the Department of Homeland
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Speaker 5: Security telling us that a seven year old girl was
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Speaker 5: being sexually abused and that content was being spread around
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Speaker 5: the dark web, and she had been being abused and
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Speaker 5: they'd watched her for three years and they could not
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Speaker 5: find the perpetrator, asking us for help. We were the
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Speaker 5: last line of defense. An actor and his foundation were
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Speaker 5: the potential last line of defense. That's my day job
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Speaker 5: and I'm sticking to it. Can we build the tools
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Speaker 5: that are better than their tools to fight what's happening.
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Speaker 5: There are sites in the United States that do this
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Speaker 5: other than Backpage, a lot of them. In fact, there
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Speaker 5: are sites internationally that are doing this that are other sites.
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Speaker 5: It's happening all over the place. It has been happening
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Speaker 5: for decades in print media. We are now just recognizing
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Speaker 5: it for what it is. And I think that that's
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Speaker 5: the most important part. And secondarily to that is let's
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Speaker 5: build the tools, let's finance the tools, and let's deploy
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Speaker 5: the tools to fight back.
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Speaker 2: All Right, guys, I'm not gonna lie. I don't have
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Speaker 2: any solid, concrete proof to show you, guys. But if
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Speaker 2: I'm going off my intuition and the show that we
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Speaker 2: talked about debade Chase and his actions and behavior that
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Speaker 2: we can see on display at the awards show towards
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Speaker 2: her coupled with the Diddy party he attended while d
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Speaker 2: Vede Chase was there after the awards show, I would
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Speaker 2: assume that he's a cocksucond, motherfucking child, rapin, pedophile, and
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Speaker 2: piece of garbage, degenerate asshole like the rest of them.
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Speaker 2: I don't buy his tears. I find him disingenuine. He
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Speaker 2: is an actor, and he stated as much himself. I
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Speaker 2: didn't find anything overly sincere or genuine about that little
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Speaker 2: speech he gave. Actually, I find it rather odd. Now
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Speaker 2: there could be two situations playing out here. He's a degenerate,
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Speaker 2: motherfucking cocksucond asshole, or he had children of his own
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Speaker 2: and it turned him around and maybe he got right
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Speaker 2: with God and decided he needed to do something about
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Speaker 2: all these kids get raped. Well, I doubt the latter.
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Speaker 2: I highly doubt it. But that's on the table, of course,
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Speaker 2: it's always on the table. But this website that he's
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Speaker 2: trying to start, I believe is actually probably to connect
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Speaker 2: people with similar interests. You know, you find a bunch
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Speaker 2: of these people trafficking children on the internet, you get
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Speaker 2: them together, you find out where they are, and you
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Speaker 2: create new little networks. His relationship with Diddy and his
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Speaker 2: inappropriate behavior towards a twelve year old at the Board
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Speaker 2: Show Davey Chase would lead me to assume that his
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Speaker 2: interest in the child trafficking situation is anything but pure
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Speaker 2: of heart. So you just be on the lookout. You
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Speaker 2: just be on the lookout for some strange behavior coming
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Speaker 2: out of Ashchin Couci. So anyways, I had a couple
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Speaker 2: shout outs here and then we are going to get
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Speaker 2: to the topic of the hour, and I hope you're
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Speaker 2: She says, Hey, Julia, longtime listener over here. Literally the
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Speaker 2: But then again, hopefully they found the grace of God
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Speaker 2: many years ago and then just recently within this last year.
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Speaker 2: it when they bring real life conspiracy stuff into shows
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Speaker 2: that I love. Actually, really, when you think about it,
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Speaker 2: program to kill drops in this last season of Dexter.
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Speaker 2: I was kind of blown away, really, but maybe we
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Speaker 2: can cover it in a future oo. I can't remember
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Speaker 2: coming back, but hey, I would be willing to cover
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Speaker 2: single handedly a breakdown shakedown on this last season a Dexter.
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Speaker 2: And I don't even care how many of you are interested,
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Speaker 2: because I adore Dexter. That might be something actually really fun. Anyways,
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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and get on to the topic of
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Speaker 2: the hour, why you are here today? Hopefully this will
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Speaker 2: entertain you and get you through the rest of the
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Speaker 2: evening or whenever it is you're listening to this. There
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Speaker 2: are bands that are overtly kind of flaunting in your
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Speaker 2: face that they may have some satanic type of occult
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Speaker 2: ritualism going on, and you know, I tend to not
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Speaker 2: listen to that kind of stuff. But there's softer what
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Speaker 2: I would consider like softer core, heavier bands that are
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Speaker 2: super super popular, and it just I don't know, I
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Speaker 2: just I guess because the songs are so good, it
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Speaker 2: never occurred to me to care. You know, they come
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Speaker 2: on the radio or whatever, they pop up on a
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Speaker 2: playlist and you're like, oh, man, I love this song.
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Speaker 2: One of those for me is Black Sabbath. And I
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Speaker 2: just recently found out a little bit of interesting information
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Speaker 2: about Black Sabbath. Of course, the name itself should give
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Speaker 2: it away. And Ozzy is a total was rip was
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Speaker 2: a total freak show, crazy dude, But I got it.
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Speaker 2: I got some information I want to share with you
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Speaker 2: about Black Sabbath. Just get your thoughts, your feelings, and opinions.
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Speaker 2: So sit down, buckle up, because we're about to have
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Speaker 2: a little story time here.
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Speaker 4: I was getting into, not practicing, but reading a lot
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Speaker 4: of spiritualism, black magic and white magic and all that
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. And somebody gave Bozzie this sold sixteenth
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Speaker 4: century book of black magic, and it was all written
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Speaker 4: in I think it's Latin, and I just got this
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Speaker 4: really weird vibe of it.
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Speaker 6: We've always, within the band said there is a fifth
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Speaker 6: member of Mystical Memory. Yeah, we've always said there's something
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Speaker 6: looking over us.
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Speaker 4: I don't know where it is, the invisible, I don't
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Speaker 4: know what bind and peeps us together.
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Speaker 3: That's why I like to call Black Sabbath a phenomena
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Speaker 3: rather than a band. Although it is a rock and
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Speaker 3: roll band, there's a phenomena involved there where that stuff
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Speaker 3: just comes from somewhere.
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Speaker 6: One thing that's for sure Satan selves.
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Speaker 7: First of all, I.
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Speaker 5: Question how many of the bands, how many of these
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Speaker 5: bands truly have a Satanic motive.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that within the rock music field, you've
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Speaker 3: got people who really are into the occult and into Satan,
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Speaker 3: and then you've got some.
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Speaker 7: Who probably were playing games.
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Speaker 3: But no matter how you cut it, they're propagating Satan.
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Speaker 3: They're propagating the demonic line, the occultic world, and I
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Speaker 3: think it's a devastating thing on our culture.
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Speaker 2: So in the late nineteen sixties, Laurel Canyon era four
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Speaker 2: young musicians from Birmingham, England, were searching for a way
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Speaker 2: to separate themselves from the countless rock bands emerging at
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Speaker 2: the time they originally started performing under the name Earth.
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Speaker 2: Their music leaned heavily into blues and psychedelic rock, but
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Speaker 2: they ultimately were sounding pretty similar to much of what
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Speaker 2: already dominated the scene, and according to several members of
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Speaker 2: the band, they were growing increasingly frustrated with the idea
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Speaker 2: of sounding ordinary. At the same time, the world around
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Speaker 2: them was changing. Horror films were becoming hugely popular across England,
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Speaker 2: with audiences lining up outside theaters simply to experience fear
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Speaker 2: as entertainment. The band began to notice this shift and
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Speaker 2: became fascinated by it. They began to ask themselves why
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Speaker 2: were people so drawn to fear and why did the
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Speaker 2: discomfort of fear hold people's attention so effectively. Around this
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Speaker 2: same period, the band's basis Terence Butler, had developed an
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Speaker 2: interest into the occult. He was actually raised in a
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Speaker 2: strict Catholic household, but Butler eventually became curious about the occult,
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Speaker 2: including supernatural phenomena, black magic, and spiritual rituals, and he
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Speaker 2: actually painted his apartment Matt black and covered the walls
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Speaker 2: with inverted crucifixes and images of the devil. Well, that's
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Speaker 2: just lovely. Yes, that's just lovely. I'm sure everybody wanted
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Speaker 2: to come over for a Sunday brunch at the Butler's house.
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Speaker 2: But anyways, according to Butler, Ozzy Osbourne had given him
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Speaker 2: a sixteenth century book that he had received as a gift.
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Speaker 2: The book contained rituals accounts of demonic entities, invocations, and
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Speaker 2: practices connected to dark ceremonial magic. Butler later claimed he
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Speaker 2: became deeply absorbed in it, spending long nights alone in
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Speaker 2: his apartment reading through its contents, and at first nothing
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Speaker 2: seemed unusual, but over time, Butler claimed the atmosphere inside
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Speaker 2: the apartment began to change. He later described feeling an
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Speaker 2: increasing sense of unease whenever he read the book, though
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Speaker 2: he never fully explained whether he believed the feeling was
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Speaker 2: psychological or something more. Then, one night, after reading the book,
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Speaker 2: before he went to bed, nice little bedtime story for you,
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Speaker 2: Butler placed it in a cupboard nearby and drifted off
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Speaker 2: to sleep. Sometime during that night, he suddenly woke from
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Speaker 2: a terrifying nightmare. There had been no loud noise or
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Speaker 2: obvious disturbance that woke him up, but according to Butler,
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Speaker 2: he immediately felt like something was off, almost like something
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Speaker 2: else was in the room looming over him. So he
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Speaker 2: looked down towards the foot of his bed, and what
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Speaker 2: he saw was absolutely horrifying. What he claims to have
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Speaker 2: seen standing at the foot of the bed was a
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Speaker 2: dark figure staring back at him in the darkness. He
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Speaker 2: says that it was not a random shadow being cast
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Speaker 2: against the wall by something else in the room, or
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Speaker 2: a hallucination created by his mind and the lingering confusion
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Speaker 2: between sleep and consciousness, but instead it was a solid,
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Speaker 2: full bodied, dark figure, darker than the darkest shadows of
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Speaker 2: the room. It was humanoid in shape and cloaked entirely
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Speaker 2: in black, standing motionless watching him sleep. For several seconds,
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Speaker 2: he could only stare at it, paralyzed with fear. Then
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Speaker 2: just moments later, the figure instantaneously dissolved into thin air
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Speaker 2: right in front of him, and just like that, it
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Speaker 2: was gone. Terrified by what he had just experienced, Butler
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Speaker 2: search for the book he had been reading before he
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Speaker 2: went to bed. He was planning to throw it away,
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Speaker 2: but he claimed it had also vanished into thin air,
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Speaker 2: not in the cupboard, nowhere to be found, and according
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Speaker 2: to him, he never saw the book again. Over the years,
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Speaker 2: people have dismissed the experience as nothing more than a
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Speaker 2: nightmare or sleep paralysis, which is very commonly misunderstood, but
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Speaker 2: there were others that were convinced Butler genuinely experienced something
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Speaker 2: he could not explain, whether paranormal or psychological. The encounter
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Speaker 2: had a lasting impact on the direction of the band.
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Speaker 2: After Butler told the others what had happened, the group
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Speaker 2: became increasingly interested in creating music that captured that exact
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Speaker 2: sense of dread and fear he had described, and Earth's
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Speaker 2: music began moving in a much darker direction. Their songs
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Speaker 2: became slower, heavier, and more ominous, built around fear itself.
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Speaker 2: One particular track was directly inspired by Butler's experience. It
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Speaker 2: centered around the image of a dark presence appearing in
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Speaker 2: someone's bedroom at night. They called the song you Guessed
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Speaker 2: It Black Sabbath, and eventually the band adopted the name
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Speaker 2: as their own, abandoning the name Earth. Following this, the
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Speaker 2: members of Black Sabbath allegedly began to believe that, aside
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Speaker 2: from the four of them, a mysterious fifth presence was
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Speaker 2: somehow connected to the band. Their guitarist Tony later claimed
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Speaker 2: there was always something watching over them.
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Speaker 6: When we first wrote this sort of music. They didn't
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Speaker 6: even know what we're doing. And we're like, oh god,
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Speaker 6: this we like this. You know, it's strange, but we
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Speaker 6: like it because we went from playing blues to this
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Speaker 6: suddenly writing you know, Wicked World and Black Sabbath for
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Speaker 6: the first two numbers we wrote, and that Black Sabbath,
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Speaker 6: you know, it was quite an unusual song.
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Speaker 2: And unusual it was not only because the song was
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Speaker 2: inspired by Butler's alleged encounter, but because Tony unknowingly get
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Speaker 2: this shit, you guys. Tony unknowingly built the main riff
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Speaker 2: around a musical interval known as the tritone, often referred
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Speaker 2: to as diablos in music or the devil in music.
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Speaker 2: According to the legend, the interval had been prohibited in
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Speaker 2: medieval religious music because it was believed to sound unnatural, evil,
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Speaker 2: or even capable of summoning the devil himself. What makes
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Speaker 2: the story even more strange is that Tony later claimed
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Speaker 2: he had no idea that interval carried those associations when
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Speaker 2: he wrote it. No idea, But it came to him
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Speaker 2: from somewhere, didn't it. All Tony's tapped into something.
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Speaker 6: Well that again was just something I liked. I never
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Speaker 6: even thought of it. I never even knew about it,
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Speaker 6: to be honest. And when I first did it, and
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Speaker 6: then later I know, oh, he shouldn't be playing those notes. Why,
28:57
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't understand all that when we were
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Speaker 6: in nineteen years old. You know, Sabbath was the first
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Speaker 6: song that had done it, and that was apparently the
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Speaker 6: notes you never used, which we did, but I never
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Speaker 6: I never knew that, And to me, it was creating music,
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Speaker 6: and that's all I do is create music.
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Speaker 2: The band's drummer Bill Ward, shared similar memories as well.
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Speaker 2: According to him, during the creation of their first three albums,
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Speaker 2: it often felt as though the music already existed before
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Speaker 2: they even began playing it.
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Speaker 3: And the way that the only way that I can
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Speaker 3: describe that probably in its best but the best way
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Speaker 3: for me is is that when we were playing our
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Speaker 3: first songs together, and especially a first out, you know,
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Speaker 3: the first three albums for instance, we would literally show
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Speaker 3: up in a room and it was almost as if
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Speaker 3: the songs were already written. That's why I like to
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Speaker 3: call Black Sabbath a phenomena rather than a band, although
30:04
Speaker 3: it is a rock and roll band. There's a phenomena
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Speaker 3: involved there where that stuff just comes from somewhere, and
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Speaker 3: it just so happened that we happened to be the
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Speaker 3: ones that.
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Speaker 2: Came to Another member of the band described a similar feeling,
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Speaker 2: claiming the band always felt as though a fifth presence
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Speaker 2: guided them throughout their career. According to him, strange things
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Speaker 2: constantly seemed to happen around the group, reinforcing the belief
30:31
Speaker 2: that something unexplained was attached to the band itself. And
30:36
Speaker 2: here's a quote quote. It sounds ridiculous now, but we
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Speaker 2: always felt that there was somebody overlooking us and guiding us.
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Speaker 2: We felt this presence when we were all together. It
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Speaker 2: was one of those things we'd referred to as being
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Speaker 2: the over self or the fifth member looking out for us.
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Speaker 2: Things always seemed to happen to us that were quite weird.
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Speaker 2: There were always just strange things happening to us back then.
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Speaker 2: End quote. Something else that was reportedly shared by all
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Speaker 2: the members of the band in the early years involved
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Speaker 2: reoccurring dreams. According to bill Ward, all four members would
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Speaker 2: dream about the same figure at night, a kind of priest,
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Speaker 2: a spectral entity that appeared while they slept Ward personally
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Speaker 2: believed the presence was some kind of guardian angel rather
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Speaker 2: than something evil, though the rest of them were pretty
31:47
Speaker 2: unconvinced of that. Even Butler himself later suggested that something
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Speaker 2: darker may have surrounded the band during their early years.
31:58
Speaker 2: In an he recalled being told that Black Sabbath had
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Speaker 2: allegedly been cursed.
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Speaker 7: There was some black magic organization that wanted us to
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Speaker 7: play at a stone circle. We said no, We were
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Speaker 7: sort of against Satan as opposed to promoting it, so
32:20
Speaker 7: they allegedly cursed us. The head of the White Witches
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Speaker 7: called our management and said he knew we had a
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Speaker 7: curse put on us, and we should wear crosses and
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Speaker 7: he'd do a ritual thing. It all sounds so hokey.
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Speaker 2: According to Butler, this was why the band began wearing
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Speaker 2: crosses during performances. The crosses themselves were reportedly made from
32:46
Speaker 2: spare pieces of metal by Ozzy's father, who worked at
32:51
Speaker 2: a metal factory at the time. But despite the imagery,
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Speaker 2: the music, and the rumors that would follow the band
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Speaker 2: for decades, Butler later claimed he ultimately distanced himself from
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Speaker 2: Black Magic entirely after the disturbing experience he described in
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Speaker 2: his apartment. According to him, whatever he saw standing at
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Speaker 2: the foot of his bed was enough to completely change
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Speaker 2: the way he viewed black magic and occultism and devil
33:27
Speaker 2: worship and all that shit and Indian. Butler insisted that
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Speaker 2: despite the dark themes surrounding the band and the song itself,
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Speaker 2: Black Sabbath, the band was never intended to glorify Satanism
33:45
Speaker 2: or the occult. According to him, it was meant to
33:48
Speaker 2: warn people about it. Whether these stories were the result
33:54
Speaker 2: of coincidence, imagination, or something more difficult to explain, they
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Speaker 2: became inseparable from the mythology surrounding Black Sabbath. The band
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Speaker 2: didn't just pioneer heavy metal musically, they helped create an
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Speaker 2: atmosphere around themselves that blurred the line between musical performance
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Speaker 2: and the supernatural. And decades later, these stories surrounding the
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Speaker 2: band still linger as unsettling pieces of the band's origins.
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Speaker 2: And if they're true, then Black Sabbath was never just
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Speaker 2: the name of the band, but only the beginning of
34:42
Speaker 2: something much darker than anyone could have ever imagined. And
34:47
Speaker 2: maybe the sound that gave birth to heavy metal came
34:51
Speaker 2: from somewhere far darker than anyone could have realized. And actually,
34:59
Speaker 2: little teaser here, they may have inspired the murder soundtrack
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Speaker 2: for one of the most infamous serial killers of all time.
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Speaker 2: But that's for another day. Now that story time is over,
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Speaker 2: it's time to give you my thoughts, feelings of pensions
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Speaker 2: on this little mythology, little folklore legend. I don't even know,
35:27
Speaker 2: because I think the truth is a little bit mocinista baby,
35:33
Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. First of all, think of
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Speaker 2: the time period, all right, nineteen sixties, Okay, that's when
35:41
Speaker 2: they were trying to break loose onto the scene. They
35:44
Speaker 2: originally had started the band by calling themselves Earth and
35:51
Speaker 2: where do you think They said they were inspired by
35:54
Speaker 2: horror movies. Okay, that might be all good and true
35:57
Speaker 2: and fine, but I think Tavis Stock probably had a
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Speaker 2: little bit something more to do with it, considering the
36:04
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties changed music forever with the Laurel Canyon scene. Okay,
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Speaker 2: all of them, all of it was all contrived. It
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Speaker 2: was all meant to disturb the mind and the spirit
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Speaker 2: of humanity forever. And you know, you can go back
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Speaker 2: and listen to my Laurel Kenyan series if you want
36:29
Speaker 2: more information on that. But this this started during the
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Speaker 2: Laurel Canyan scene. Yeah, maybe they were inspired by horror movies.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe that Butler asshole was fucking around with
36:41
Speaker 2: the occult. Probably didn't need much encouragement, you know, they
36:47
Speaker 2: were probably already dabbling into some stuff. And the fact
36:52
Speaker 2: that they just in this story, it just so happened
36:56
Speaker 2: that they slipped in that Aussie already had some kind
36:59
Speaker 2: of a sixteenth century Latin demonicon book and I'll just
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Speaker 2: give it to I'll just give it as a gift
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Speaker 2: and you know what comes of it. Who really cares.
37:13
Speaker 2: We'll just see what happens. But yeah, do I think
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Speaker 2: that there was a fifth member? Sure?
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 2: He's got a name too. Some people call him Lucifer
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Speaker 2: morning Star. You know, he is commonly referred to as
37:30
Speaker 2: Satan the Devil. Sure I think that there was a
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Speaker 2: fifth member. There's a there's an extra member in a
37:38
Speaker 2: lot of bands that started in the sixties, not just
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Speaker 2: Black Sabbath, although they might be a little bit more
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Speaker 2: overtly occulted than some of the other ones. You know,
37:53
Speaker 2: I'm not really getting a huge ritualism vibe from the
37:56
Speaker 2: Mamas and the papas, yet they were dabbling in it.
37:59
Speaker 2: They were in it. Mama Cass was a big fat
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Speaker 2: witch with big fat witch titties, and John Phillips was
38:09
Speaker 2: raping his daughter on the daily, incestuous, pedophilic witchcraft. But
38:18
Speaker 2: yet you don't get that when you listen to California Dreaming,
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Speaker 2: although it is there. Now. I want to get your thoughts,
38:28
Speaker 2: your feelings, your opinions. I can really jam out to
38:31
Speaker 2: some Black Sabbath, although uncovering this story of course, just
38:36
Speaker 2: like the rest of the bands from the Laurel Canyon has,
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Speaker 2: you know, ruined it for me a little bit. But
38:43
Speaker 2: I will be actually touching on this topic further in
38:47
Speaker 2: an upcoming episode. But you'll just have to wait around
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Speaker 2: and see, because they're gonna play a little part to
38:54
Speaker 2: do in something much larger than you could ever imagine.
39:00
Speaker 2: That's enough of that. Let me know your thoughts, your feelings,
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Speaker 2: your opinions, and the comments section. Thanks for being here,
39:08
Speaker 2: Thanks for sticking with me through story time. I hope
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Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. Comment Ozzy's Taint if you are yourself
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39:22
Speaker 2: If you yourself are a Black Sabbath fan, and let
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Speaker 2: me know what you think. Do you think this was homegrown?
39:30
Speaker 2: You think they were just oopsy dabbling in a little
39:33
Speaker 2: occultism and took it too far. You think that stuff
39:37
Speaker 2: just came out of nowhere. The music already existed, Oh
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Speaker 2: I'm just writing stuff that's called the devil in the music,
39:45
Speaker 2: but just came out of nowhere. Maybe they were tapped
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Speaker 2: into something, Maybe they were channeling and they didn't even
39:51
Speaker 2: realize it. There was something in the air during the
39:53
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties and it changed music forever. But were they
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Speaker 2: really as unaware of it as they claim to be.
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Speaker 2: You can let me know what you think, but that's
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Speaker 2: gonna do it for today. I love you guys, thanks
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Speaker 2: so much for listening, and I will catch you on
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Speaker 2: the next one.
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Speaker 8: You don't find something to find me in mind, try
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Speaker 8: you read me. You got my friend
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Speaker 7: Wh