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Jarrian Jones, JP Shadrick & Jags in London · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome to a very special episode of Teal Talk,
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Speaker 1: the official podcast for the Jacksonville Janquins in the UK
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Speaker 1: play at Ireland. Coming up on this episode, we've got
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Speaker 1: my conversation with Jacksonville Jaguars rookie defensive back Jarryon Jones
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Speaker 1: about all things London, how he was excited to be
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Speaker 1: here and what he's looking for to do actually in
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Speaker 1: the UK as well. And I've just caught up with
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Speaker 1: Jacks fans Molly and James as well straight after that
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Speaker 1: lost to the Chicago Bears, so we'll hear from them
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Speaker 1: as well. I'm Jay Lawrence, still no relation. He's Key
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Speaker 1: Ram Surin and the face of the Jacksonville Jankuers, JP
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Speaker 1: Shandrey here.
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Speaker 2: As well, face ugly face.
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Speaker 3: You were on radiator that right right, Thank goodness, that's
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Speaker 3: going to be with you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Tough day at the office with the Jags.
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Speaker 3: I mean, thirty five sixty it wasn't even that close.
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Speaker 3: I mean they turn the ball over a couple of
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Speaker 3: times and the secondary just had issues, certainly.
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Speaker 2: Done around the red zone.
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams took advantage and hit Camet twice and hits
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Speaker 3: the veteran Tina Allen twice and they had Montera Brown
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Speaker 3: trying to cover him a couple of times in key moments.
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Speaker 2: And couldn't do it.
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Speaker 3: And there are some big questions piled up for this
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Speaker 3: Jaguars team right now.
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Speaker 1: So a tough day is discipline one of those questions.
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Speaker 2: JP.
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking penalties in the third quarter.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that drive.
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Speaker 3: They had three defensive penalties in a row, right, remember
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Speaker 3: that and kept him on the field.
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Speaker 2: There's some of that that kind of just.
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Speaker 3: I don't know clearly there's something to that, but it
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Speaker 3: discipline is one thing. These were holding calls in the
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Speaker 3: second It wasn't like they were. There are other penalties
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Speaker 3: that I think you could say more that that's a
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Speaker 3: discipline issue some of us just playing football, and it
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Speaker 3: just piled up on one drive.
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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate to see that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the battles of Tom and hospital saying right now,
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Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like we're literally like minutes
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Speaker 1: after the game has ended. So this is when we're
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Speaker 1: going to We're going to feel one way. I think
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Speaker 1: it's going to be now. Sometimes there is the benefit
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Speaker 1: of having a day's grace afterwards to sort of you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe calm down a little bit. But I feel like
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Speaker 1: we should start with the Let's just start at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the game, because I felt after scoring so
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Speaker 1: many points against the Colts last week, the Jaguars seemed
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Speaker 1: like they were on a roll with their first offensive
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Speaker 1: drive and that's what I felt good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen plays, man, they were on the field, kept
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Speaker 3: moving the ball, third down conversions.
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Speaker 1: So after I mean, it ended with a field goal,
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Speaker 1: but after that I felt positive. That's the only part
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Speaker 1: of the offense that I felt positive about today. And
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Speaker 1: you know what, there was a part actually later on
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Speaker 1: in the game because there were a lot of drops today.
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Speaker 1: You know, there was a part later on in the
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Speaker 1: game where I thought, well, again, week after week, the
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Speaker 1: only person that we seem to talk about on this
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Speaker 1: podcast Is Brian Thomas Jr. Because it looked like he
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Speaker 1: was going to score another touchdown. Even Brian Thomas Junior
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Speaker 1: miss dropped to catch in the end zone. And you know,
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Speaker 1: for me, this is the whole round the performance. Really,
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Speaker 1: it seemed like you were taking everything that you know,
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Speaker 1: we felt about the Jaguars and how they haven't been
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Speaker 1: performing over the past few games before the Colts. It
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Speaker 1: all just went into one game there JP it all
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Speaker 1: just seemed to be the same thing over and over again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, drops, Dave Davis had one fumble.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Evan though he.
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Speaker 3: Had a great game today, ten catches, I mean that's
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Speaker 3: on the turf one time.
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Speaker 2: Guy's got to make plays. That's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Coaches can do so much, right. They can't run out
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Speaker 3: there and make catches for guys. So that's the balance, right,
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Speaker 3: and now you can argue to put some guys in better.
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Speaker 2: Spots and call better plays and key moments. And I
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Speaker 2: think it's a two way street.
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Speaker 3: So that's been the conversation all season long going in
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Speaker 3: So it's just it does feel like we've had this
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Speaker 3: conversation after games already this season, same idea, Guys got
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Speaker 3: to make plays, coaches got to coach better, and it's
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Speaker 3: all kind of comes around in a circle, the same
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Speaker 3: story every week.
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Speaker 4: The pregame, I came into this and it felt like
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Speaker 4: the Bills game last year. There were way more Bears
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Speaker 4: fans today than there were Jags fans. It felt like
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Speaker 4: a Bears home game, and I felt so positive because
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Speaker 4: it reminded me of what it felt like before that
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Speaker 4: Bill's game and the Drags came out and dominated the
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Speaker 4: Bills that day, and that just didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: That first drive.
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Speaker 4: I felt really good, but then there was really for
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Speaker 4: me nothing to celebrate after. I mean, the pick decent, right,
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Speaker 4: but that was also a bad throw. But there was
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Speaker 4: really nothing to celebrate.
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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that it's you know, you mentioned Evan
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Speaker 1: Ingram there a second ago, and how it's the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the second quarter. I believe it was that there
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Speaker 1: Eving Ingram. Was it a fumble right at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the second quarter quarter. However, it does seem a
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Speaker 1: little bit absurd when you say Evan Ingram ten targets,
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Speaker 1: ten catches over one hundred yards, and you know, I
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Speaker 1: think that what that does prove is that, despite the
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Speaker 1: fact that this game was not positive for the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: how much has Trevor missed Evan Ingram as a target?
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Speaker 2: A little bit?
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Speaker 3: A lot of that was like some they're down a
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Speaker 3: couple scores late, and they're throwing kind of underneath and
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Speaker 3: the flat and like so that kind of adds up
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Speaker 3: in a time where they're down a couple of scores unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: and it's just kind of the way it goes sometimes.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't even know where to start here.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's so frustrating because it just
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Speaker 3: seems like Trevor can't push it down the field, and
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Speaker 3: when he does, he's inconsistent down the field. And then
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Speaker 3: they had some moments where they ran okay early in
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Speaker 3: the game. Biggsby had a couple of holes. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Travis Etn had a hamstring issue, I guess and didn't
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Speaker 3: come back, and he had a shoulder issue going in.
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Speaker 3: So Bigsby had some moments, but they couldn't extend that.
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Speaker 3: And so I don't know what the what's the identity
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Speaker 3: of the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows what that is. That's been the question all season.
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Speaker 3: Long, and we still aren't even close to an answer
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Speaker 3: to what they do.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm close to an answer. The answer is. We
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Speaker 4: talked about it on Monday. The Drags are one in five.
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Speaker 4: They've got one victory. The one victory is when you
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Speaker 4: weren't in the same country as this is the answer.
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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it must be.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, I know we're kind of drawing
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Speaker 3: at straws here.
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Speaker 2: This is tough, but that's what it is.
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Speaker 3: They don't they don't have a hang their head on
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Speaker 3: philosophy that they do time and again. You know, Okay,
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Speaker 3: these are the Jaguars. They're gonna do this in a
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Speaker 3: key moment because they haven't had enough of those successful
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Speaker 3: to do it. I mean it's not even there's nothing
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Speaker 3: on defense. They've done well lately, especially in the second year.
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Speaker 3: They got a couple of sacks today, but whatever, I mean,
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Speaker 3: Cale Williams can Ronnie ran effectively on him and got
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Speaker 3: out of pive. There's a lot of issues right now.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what this team is, but they are
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Speaker 3: one in five. That's what they are.
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Speaker 1: They all one in five. And this was the first
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Speaker 1: game in London this season for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Means
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Speaker 1: that Jaggs fan base did turn out. It was a
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Speaker 1: Bears home game, a lot of Bears fans, there's no
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. But even just walking around you can
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Speaker 1: just see the smiles on Peeter's faces here in London
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Speaker 1: because the Jaguars are back, you know, and I'll see
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Speaker 1: what we're hear from them now. Actually, because despite the
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Speaker 1: fact that the Jaguars lost, here's Molly, here's James, who, yeah,
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Speaker 1: not happy with the result. Very happy to see their
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Speaker 1: Jaguars though. Okay, I'm with Molly and James straight after
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars loss against the Chicago Bears. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if this is a stupid question, but Molly, how
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Speaker 1: are you feeling disappointed?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I was excited coming into the game from
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Speaker 5: the win last week and I thought, you know, we
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Speaker 5: had the momentum to do well this game. But yeah,
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Speaker 5: I do feel disappointed. I mean, I'm still happy to
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Speaker 5: be here. I'm tough that we get to actually see
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Speaker 5: the game and you know, we get to be a
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Speaker 5: part of it all. But yeah, I wish I would
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Speaker 5: just wish we'd you know, completed things a lot better
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Speaker 5: and pushed a bit more.
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Speaker 6: To get that win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and in the first quarter as well, James,
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Speaker 1: do it look like the first drive that the Jangs
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Speaker 1: really had on offense? It's like, okay, you know, scoring
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Speaker 1: so many points in the last game against the Coles
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Speaker 1: is like right here, here we go. But it just didn't.
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Speaker 1: It just didn't carry on to it.
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Speaker 6: I thought we had them.
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Speaker 7: I turned to these two and I thought we've got
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Speaker 7: them on the jet lag or something, because what is
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Speaker 7: this team and what have you done with the Jackson's
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Speaker 7: Jacksonville checks. This were in the first five weeks. I
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Speaker 7: was excited and then we just didn't. We just didn't
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Speaker 7: maintain like I think, I think, if I'm being honest,
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Speaker 7: you know, they were they were slow to start again.
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Speaker 6: We never really got going.
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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, the offense did all right, but I haven't
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Speaker 7: seen the stats, but a lot of drops on the
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Speaker 7: offense today, I think, like that one gave Davis in
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Speaker 7: the corner which would have been a touchdown, catching them
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Speaker 7: Christian Kirk which all went for his hands.
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. Of course it has been so good
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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. It's like, if
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Speaker 1: they all go your way, it's a different ball game.
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Speaker 1: But the fact is they didn't go our way. Haven't
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Speaker 1: gone our way all season, and really like we're in
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Speaker 1: a bad place. I hate hates me to say it.
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Speaker 1: We're not in a good place right now. And I
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Speaker 1: think it's that we're one of those teams. I know
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Speaker 1: it's an easy thing.
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Speaker 6: To say, but we're such a confidence team.
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Speaker 7: Like when we play well, like when one side of
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Speaker 7: the ball plays well, the other side of the ball
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Speaker 7: plays well, like when and it's really like when the
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Speaker 7: pass rush gets going, that's when we're good and that
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Speaker 7: fuels the offense and the pass rush. Today, I mean,
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Speaker 7: there was odd calls on defense, like Trayvon Walker and
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Speaker 7: Josh Heines Allen on the side for quite I don't
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Speaker 7: know if that's not an injury thing, but I was
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Speaker 7: a bit like we really want them on even even if.
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Speaker 6: They're not pass rushing. It's just like it's another thing
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Speaker 6: in Caleb Williams's mind, and it was just it just
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Speaker 6: it just seemed a NodD and it was.
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Speaker 7: To be honest, it was really like a Jaggs this
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Speaker 7: season performance just all at sorts like it didn't it didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was going on. Talk to
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Speaker 1: me about the vibes in the stadium. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of Chicago Bears fans there, so like I talked to me, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, your block was, were you just like standing
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Speaker 1: out or what?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was lots of Chrgo Bears fans. We were
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Speaker 5: I'd say, yeah, we stuck out like sore thumbs, definitely.
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Speaker 5: But everyone was so friendly everyone. We just we had
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Speaker 5: the banter. Everyone was, you know, whining each other up,
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Speaker 5: but everyone was really supportive.
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Speaker 6: As well.
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Speaker 1: So it was great.
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Speaker 6: It was.
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Speaker 5: It was a bit overwhelming at times with just the
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Speaker 5: sheer noise from the Bears fans because they've traveled well,
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Speaker 5: but it was it was great fun.
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Speaker 6: It was good.
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Speaker 1: And you need to tell me through what you're wearing
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Speaker 1: as well. You're just turned up and like you know,
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Speaker 1: you're Trevor Lawrence, Josh Haines, Alan Jersey or whatever. No
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Speaker 1: you get talk to me through. Talk to me through
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Speaker 1: what you're wearing.
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Speaker 7: Joans this okay, so this is this is ten years old,
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Speaker 7: is going to be bobbily but it's a.
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Speaker 6: Jaguar one's it.
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Speaker 7: And then we got these black t shirts made with
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Speaker 7: numbers I actually I mustn't better have my Morris Jones Drew.
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Speaker 6: But we had a little little conversation.
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Speaker 7: We wanted to be in Unison, we wanted to be
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Speaker 7: looking the same, cohesive.
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Speaker 6: Mindful, and you know, it's just what we're coming is.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's a bit of a joke and everyone's like, oh,
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Speaker 7: you look like rubbish and it's like, oh, you're like
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Speaker 7: Teddy Bears and all that, and it's a good.
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Speaker 6: Fun and you know it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie. You must be sweating.
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Speaker 6: No, today it was nice and more.
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Speaker 5: Last year we were sweating as baking, but this year
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Speaker 5: we're mctually quite pleased, feeling cozy.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's look forward to the next game. Of course,
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Speaker 1: as at Wembley Stadium is in New England, Patriots like,
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Speaker 1: are you are you going? How are you feeling about it?
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Speaker 1: Is it just a new game, new life, new atmosphere. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're hopeful. I mean, we have to take each game
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Speaker 1: as it comes. You've got to keep being positive and
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Speaker 1: pushing forward. We're big Jags fans and we're always going
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Speaker 1: to be DAGs fans, so we've just got to be hopeful.
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Speaker 1: That's just part and postil of being a Jacks fan
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Speaker 1: these days.
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Speaker 6: Oh no, we're Jags fans. We're delusional. Let's be honest.
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Speaker 7: Come Wednesday, this is forgotten about and we're probably thinking like,
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Speaker 7: oh win this, smash it.
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Speaker 1: When's the playoffs coming?
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Speaker 7: But let's be real for a minute, Like, I don't
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Speaker 7: think we've been where we want to be this season.
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Speaker 7: I don't like we've been even close to be where
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Speaker 7: we want to be this season. If you even if
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Speaker 7: you listen to the interviews from like the coaches, right
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Speaker 7: they're saying, oh, you know, we've got we've got a
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Speaker 7: good enough personnel, But like, I don't, I don't mean,
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Speaker 7: we have to be honest. I think the secondary has
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Speaker 7: been in this you for a while, and I think
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Speaker 7: I think we were really exposed to it. I know,
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Speaker 7: like I know Cisco had the interception, but let's be honest,
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Speaker 7: that was a really poor throat from Williams. And actually,
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Speaker 7: if you if you look at it, like we give,
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Speaker 7: we give a lot of separation to opposition receivers, and
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Speaker 7: I think you know, if you've got half your defense,
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Speaker 7: which isn't shutting down the passing game, it's always that
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Speaker 7: you're always giving opposition teams, you know, that little edge
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Speaker 7: to come back, and you know it's we we get
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Speaker 7: we're getting found out and we're getting exposed. So I
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Speaker 7: hate to say it, but I think I don't think
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Speaker 7: Doug PE's got the answers anymore.
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Speaker 5: We're going to put that to one side going into the.
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Speaker 1: Game with Wembley. All right, I'll just go one last question.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave this to you and then Molly.
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Speaker 1: Every week we get someone to give the prediction for
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Speaker 1: the next game. You're representing the fans this week. So
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Speaker 1: it's I mean, we're saying this right after the Bears game, obviously,
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Speaker 1: but Jacksonville Jaguars, New England Patriots give me a score prediction.
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I think we're gonna win. I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: be delusional and so I think we're gonna win. I'm
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Speaker 5: gonna be hopeful this Actually I think it's gonna be tight.
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Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, like, no, no, no, the Jags. It's
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Speaker 5: gonna be close. But yeah, I think we're gonna do it.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna We're gonna do it. We're gonna smash it.
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Speaker 1: James obviously disappointed with the result, but very happy for
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Speaker 1: the Jag to be back in on you, I think right.
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Speaker 4: Being a fan since twenty thirteen, and JP and I
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Speaker 4: have been doing the show together for a few years,
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Speaker 4: you talk a lot about Jags losses, and there comes
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Speaker 4: a point when it's just part of the course. A
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Speaker 4: lot of the time, like JP said before, you talk
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Speaker 4: about this stuff all the time, and sometimes when you're
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Speaker 4: a Jags fan, you get used to losing and you
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Speaker 4: smile and you enjoy what you can. And the atmosphere
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Speaker 4: today was fantastic. There's some positives to take out of it.
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Speaker 4: And I think when you've been a Jags fan for
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Speaker 4: a long time, sometimes that's just the way you look
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Speaker 4: at it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's difficult, though, isn't it,
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Speaker 1: Because I think that sometimes when there's so much build
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Speaker 1: ups or something that you know, when you see in
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Speaker 1: your team and all of that, and then it suddenly
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Speaker 1: you feel like But the good thing is that you
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Speaker 1: know that a few days later. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: rectifies the right word, but you know that maybe your
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Speaker 1: emotions can change if you get a victory. And it's
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Speaker 1: a home game of course at Wembley Stadium as well.
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Speaker 1: So what do you think jp that the Jackiars are
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Speaker 1: going to be thinking over the next few days. How
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Speaker 1: are they going to be able to get over the
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Speaker 1: hump without without being at home?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean they used this as an advantage last
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Speaker 3: year where they were here, they were together, they were
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Speaker 3: away from the building, they were in a different environment,
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Speaker 3: they were in the countryside, like okay, it's like, let's
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Speaker 3: put up the fence around the Jaguars and everybody get
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Speaker 3: in and figure it out. And it was a good
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Speaker 3: thing for this team last year. Earlier in that season
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Speaker 3: it didn't work out at the end of the year,
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Speaker 3: but for this trip it did, so maybe there's something
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Speaker 3: to be said for that.
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Speaker 2: They're going to be here. There's nowhere else forming to go.
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Speaker 2: We're on an island literally, you can't leave.
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Speaker 3: So like you're you know, there'll be a day where
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Speaker 3: they have a day off I believe, to do whatever
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Speaker 3: they need to do in town. It's players get a
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Speaker 3: day off, It's how it works. And then they'll go
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Speaker 3: back to work I think on Tuesday and look at
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Speaker 3: the tape and then back of the practice field Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: And that's that's the routine of the NFL. The time
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Speaker 3: March is on. You can't cry about it for more
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Speaker 3: than twenty four hours. You gotta just find the corrections
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Speaker 3: that need to be made and then get back to work.
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Speaker 2: So they'll go back to practice on.
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Speaker 3: Wednesday, work on some stuff, and Thursday again, Friday will
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Speaker 3: be kind of a lighter day, and then we'll see
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Speaker 3: it Wembley on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: That's that's really the nature.
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Speaker 3: Of You can't you can't really, That's all you can
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Speaker 3: do is go back and work. So there's gonna be
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Speaker 3: two things, right, I mean, the coaching staff has to
15:42
Speaker 3: figure out how they can better put guys in position,
15:45
Speaker 3: and the players got to have some kind of want.
15:48
Speaker 2: To about them. Do they want to do this? Can
15:52
Speaker 2: they can? They? Sure they haven't shown it lately, But
15:57
Speaker 2: they've got.
15:58
Speaker 3: To want to go through and and fight to the
16:01
Speaker 3: finish in a game and get a win to go
16:03
Speaker 3: back home. This is by week's not coming anytime soon either.
16:06
Speaker 3: It's later in the year. The schedule gets really tough
16:10
Speaker 3: when this team gets back to the States, so they
16:13
Speaker 3: need to get a win in their pocket in the
16:14
Speaker 3: worst way. But when the win is great, but they've
16:17
Speaker 3: got to figure out how to operate. I think first
16:19
Speaker 3: before they even you know, on both sides of the ball,
16:23
Speaker 3: before they even worry about winning results.
16:25
Speaker 1: Well here from Jaron Jones in a moment. But you know,
16:28
Speaker 1: from your experience of talking to the Jaguars players whilst
16:31
Speaker 1: they're here in London, they do they treat this as
16:33
Speaker 1: like a break to enjoy that time here in London.
16:37
Speaker 3: I mean, for the most part, it feels like I mean,
16:38
Speaker 3: they they give a little time to them to go
16:41
Speaker 3: do things and all that. A lot of these guys
16:43
Speaker 3: have been around it though before it's not the first
16:45
Speaker 3: trip for most of these players, so.
16:50
Speaker 1: They've done the tourist bits. They've They've gone to the
16:51
Speaker 1: London I they've gone to the London Dungeon before, right,
16:54
Speaker 1: and then I'll do it again.
16:55
Speaker 3: They'll be community events and things like there's a school
16:58
Speaker 3: visit that you know it's coming up on Monday, and
17:01
Speaker 3: some other events like that that happened.
17:03
Speaker 2: Business side has a lot of stuff going on. So
17:07
Speaker 2: do they like it. I don't know.
17:09
Speaker 3: If you win, you like everything. If they're losing, I
17:13
Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna like it. But they were losing
17:15
Speaker 3: it in the United States as well, so I think
17:18
Speaker 3: that's kind of comes to goes. I think overall it's fine,
17:21
Speaker 3: but I think it's really results based.
17:26
Speaker 4: Is losing and going home to sleep in your own
17:28
Speaker 4: bed different to losing and sleeping in a bed in
17:32
Speaker 4: a hotel.
17:32
Speaker 3: Losing sucks on any continent, I suppose, yeah. I mean,
17:40
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's one point or like they
17:42
Speaker 3: got blown out. It's not fun. It doesn't matter where
17:44
Speaker 3: you are. Good football travels. Bad football travels too. Right now,
17:49
Speaker 3: they're playing bad football.
17:51
Speaker 1: We spoke to Cambina Tool last week, who's very excited
17:54
Speaker 1: to play at Wembley Stadium. His love of the Premier
17:59
Speaker 1: League football. That's let's see my conversation with Jaron Jones
18:03
Speaker 1: as well, he's very excited to be in London, but
18:05
Speaker 1: for completely different reasons.
18:09
Speaker 8: Jaron Jones, Man, nice to how it feeling in the UK.
18:13
Speaker 8: I feels good.
18:14
Speaker 9: You know, everything smells a little fresher out here, and
18:16
Speaker 9: I was seeing a lot more green grass.
18:19
Speaker 2: What's it?
18:19
Speaker 1: What's it like? I mean, like touching down here, it
18:21
Speaker 1: must have been like because it's your first time out
18:24
Speaker 1: of you went to Canada before, but out of the US,
18:27
Speaker 1: so I mean it must be Is it strange or what.
18:29
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say it's strange, but I think it's definitely
18:33
Speaker 9: like like when I first got out of the playing
18:34
Speaker 9: my inle like kind of smelled a little bit fresher.
18:37
Speaker 2: You know.
18:38
Speaker 9: I kind of like I kind of got out the
18:40
Speaker 9: plane and I was like it kind of felt like
18:41
Speaker 9: I was in a different place.
18:43
Speaker 1: Now. You know, when you got drafted drafted the Jacksonville Jaguars,
18:47
Speaker 1: I mean, Jags are played in London for such a
18:49
Speaker 1: long time when it crossed your mind, Oh man, I'm
18:52
Speaker 1: going to get to go out to the UK to
18:54
Speaker 1: play some games.
18:54
Speaker 2: All right.
18:55
Speaker 9: So, like after I first got drafted, I kind of
18:58
Speaker 9: looked at the schedule, you know, you look at the
19:00
Speaker 9: home and away game, and then like two games had
19:03
Speaker 9: like a British flag on. I was like, I don't
19:06
Speaker 9: know why they got what does that mean? And so
19:08
Speaker 9: when I got to ask some of the players and
19:09
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, we're playing London back to back weeks,
19:11
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, well, okay, I didn't know that was gonna.
19:13
Speaker 2: Happen, you know.
19:14
Speaker 9: So since since the time that I've learned we're gonna play,
19:17
Speaker 9: you know, I've kind of been looking up like things
19:19
Speaker 9: here and trying to find stuff to do. And the
19:22
Speaker 9: most thing, the thing that I want to do the
19:25
Speaker 9: most of shop Sun.
19:26
Speaker 1: And that's the benefit of being here for two games
19:28
Speaker 1: is that hopefully you.
19:29
Speaker 8: Can have some time to like yeah, downtime to.
19:32
Speaker 1: Go do that, because I mean that's quite exciting because like,
19:35
Speaker 1: you know, sure you can.
19:36
Speaker 8: I mean, you're in London, man, you can get no
19:38
Speaker 8: better than London. That's that much better than London.
19:42
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, is there anything specifically like you
19:45
Speaker 1: want to go out and do. It's like, you know,
19:47
Speaker 1: is it just shopping or is there anything you want
19:48
Speaker 1: to go see?
19:49
Speaker 9: I want to go a shop, and then like I
19:51
Speaker 9: want to see some art. I definitely want to see
19:53
Speaker 9: some arts, like try to find like a museum or
19:56
Speaker 9: something like that, like stuff like that.
19:57
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm big.
19:58
Speaker 9: It's like like the kind of like fancy stuff for
20:00
Speaker 9: like aesthetic type things stuff like that. So I definitely
20:03
Speaker 9: want to get out and just walk. Like it's not
20:05
Speaker 9: even like a major thing that I wanna do, I mean,
20:08
Speaker 9: besides shocking, but I kind of really just want to
20:10
Speaker 9: walk around and just see everything.
20:11
Speaker 1: So how was it playing right?
20:12
Speaker 2: Uh?
20:12
Speaker 1: Playing right over here? You're get it flying? Was it
20:14
Speaker 1: just like headphones are on?
20:15
Speaker 4: You?
20:16
Speaker 9: Uh, what's the deal? It was headphones on and I
20:19
Speaker 9: tried to go to sleep. I slept for a little
20:22
Speaker 9: bit over half of the time, but like it was
20:25
Speaker 9: kind of it felt some turbulence, you know, while we
20:27
Speaker 9: were flying over, Like I was walking and I was
20:29
Speaker 9: just watching everybody sleep. Saw some guys with their mouth
20:31
Speaker 9: open sleep.
20:32
Speaker 2: He was out.
20:33
Speaker 9: You gonna tell me, like, yeah, ah dt day Thomas.
20:37
Speaker 1: His mouth was opens. I mean like Jackie has been
20:42
Speaker 1: over for you know, such a long time, so you know,
20:44
Speaker 1: so many of your teammates have been here, which means
20:46
Speaker 1: I'm as human. There's been some conversations about what it's
20:49
Speaker 1: like playing in the UK.
20:50
Speaker 9: What if your teammates so they said it was so
20:52
Speaker 9: much like it was so fun, And they said, like
20:54
Speaker 9: the fans that come to the football game, they kind
20:56
Speaker 9: of make it. They'll kind of make it feel like
20:57
Speaker 9: we're at home. And they were like, you could tell
20:59
Speaker 9: likeveryone's loud.
21:00
Speaker 2: Everyone you know love kind of loves football out here,
21:02
Speaker 2: you know.
21:03
Speaker 9: So I got I just kind of feel like it's
21:05
Speaker 9: you know, a blessing just being out here for real.
21:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
21:07
Speaker 1: I mean any differences that people telling you that, like
21:09
Speaker 1: you know, playing in the Banker to all.
21:12
Speaker 9: They haven't really told me any differences for real. But
21:15
Speaker 9: the weather, like you know, being in Florida is super hot.
21:19
Speaker 2: You know.
21:19
Speaker 9: When I stepped out the plane, I had like a
21:21
Speaker 9: short sleeve shirt on and they kind of hit me
21:24
Speaker 9: like it was freezing cold. I was like, oh, okay,
21:26
Speaker 9: that's the difference right there. Since I've been out here,
21:29
Speaker 9: it has been kind of cold.
21:30
Speaker 1: Do you have any like, you know, message to any
21:32
Speaker 1: you know, Jackson Jagons fans from the UK and on
21:34
Speaker 1: and coming to the you know, the game you know,
21:36
Speaker 1: at Wembley stage, just to be the home game.
21:38
Speaker 6: Man.
21:39
Speaker 8: Yeah, people so excited to come and see you.
21:41
Speaker 2: Guys.
21:41
Speaker 8: You have a message with you.
21:42
Speaker 9: Please bring the energy, bring like you know, let everyone
21:45
Speaker 9: in London know, like how we get down in Jacksonville,
21:48
Speaker 9: you know, kind of bring them in and let him
21:50
Speaker 9: understand like this this is how we do it, you know.
21:52
Speaker 9: And just happy to be here.
21:54
Speaker 8: Cool man. Thank you so much for joy too, talk man,
21:56
Speaker 8: appreciate it.
21:58
Speaker 1: Jones very excited for a bit fashion, very excited for
22:00
Speaker 1: a little bit of art. That was a lovely chat.
22:03
Speaker 1: It was a very nice play, very nice. He's nice,
22:04
Speaker 1: isn't he a really nice guy? And of course he'll
22:08
Speaker 1: now be looking towards the game. That's will the whole
22:10
Speaker 1: team be looking towards the game at Wembley Stadium against
22:15
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots home game as well, which you know,
22:19
Speaker 1: we spoke a little bit earlier about the Chicago Bears
22:21
Speaker 1: sort of owning the stadium really like you know the
22:23
Speaker 1: Bills did last week. Key, but it's going to be different.
22:26
Speaker 1: It's going to be Jags fan base, It's going to
22:29
Speaker 1: be all things Jacksonville.
22:30
Speaker 4: Isn't it Wembley for I reckon since about twenty seventeen
22:34
Speaker 4: when they absolutely dominated the Ravens. Really feels like a
22:37
Speaker 4: Jags home game, right, But I do wonder after this season,
22:42
Speaker 4: after today, do the Patriots come into that Wembley game
22:46
Speaker 4: rubbing their hands together feeling like we've got this well not.
22:49
Speaker 3: The Patriots are not good either, true, you know, and
22:52
Speaker 3: they got a rookie quarterback down maybe, so it's both
22:54
Speaker 3: team searching for an answer, both teams. I mean, during
22:59
Speaker 3: the jaguarsher the advantage with a rookie quarterback out there
23:02
Speaker 3: didn't work out today with a rookie quarterback out there,
23:06
Speaker 3: and we'll see.
23:08
Speaker 2: I like the idea. I like Wembley. I like playing there.
23:12
Speaker 3: Jack's been blown out there too, now remember the Texans
23:15
Speaker 3: got him.
23:15
Speaker 2: A few years ago in a blowout.
23:17
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's a given that they're gonna win
23:20
Speaker 3: every game there and play great there. So there are
23:24
Speaker 3: advantages to being there. They know the place, they know
23:26
Speaker 3: the pitch, it's a different feeld.
23:28
Speaker 4: A week in the country makes a difference to the
23:30
Speaker 4: Patriots coming over.
23:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:32
Speaker 3: Right, there's all that combined. So, but it feels a
23:35
Speaker 3: little bit different though. It is a synthetic kind of
23:37
Speaker 3: blend now grass ntural grass. It's not as slick as
23:40
Speaker 3: it was back in the early days of the Universe Stadium.
23:43
Speaker 3: But there's something to be said for that too. So conditions,
23:47
Speaker 3: the way that the pitch is, the whole.
23:49
Speaker 2: Thing should be advantaged Jaguars. But do the Jaguars take
23:54
Speaker 2: the advantage of it? I don't know.
23:56
Speaker 1: And it'syfically you know this point. Actually, every single episode
24:00
Speaker 1: we talk about the key matchups, we talk about something
24:03
Speaker 1: that we're particularly focusing on in regards to New England
24:05
Speaker 1: Patriots and what the Jags should be focused on. But
24:10
Speaker 1: they've not been the most impressive team and you usually
24:12
Speaker 1: say that the Patriots and usually would you know, focus
24:14
Speaker 1: on something to do with the quarterback. But he's just
24:16
Speaker 1: a it's just an unknown quantity right now, isn't he
24:18
Speaker 1: Drake may So? I mean that does that make life
24:21
Speaker 1: easier and more difficult? Do you think for Jacksonville?
24:23
Speaker 2: Yeah?
24:23
Speaker 3: I mean you haven't seen a lot of them, and
24:26
Speaker 3: all you really have as college and the little time
24:28
Speaker 3: that he's actually.
24:29
Speaker 1: Played, you just kind of hope that it's, uh, he's
24:31
Speaker 1: still in that that that first few games not quite
24:34
Speaker 1: used to it.
24:34
Speaker 3: In theory, when there's a rookie quarterback out there, you
24:37
Speaker 3: put pressure on it and make everything.
24:40
Speaker 2: Go fast for him.
24:42
Speaker 3: I mean the Jags little do a lot of They
24:44
Speaker 3: don't blitz a lot anyway, but I mean they had
24:46
Speaker 3: some times where they just couldn't get to killed and
24:48
Speaker 3: then they did.
24:49
Speaker 2: He just ran away from it.
24:50
Speaker 1: And he's had a few games to almost get into
24:55
Speaker 1: the league because the first couple of games for I mean,
24:57
Speaker 1: I know that this is it doesn't quite work compared
25:00
Speaker 1: and he's quarterback is different in one of that, but
25:02
Speaker 1: the first couple games for Caleb weren't as assured maybe
25:06
Speaker 1: as what was quite an accomplished performance today.
25:08
Speaker 2: First, that's right. Yeah, he's been better in the last
25:11
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
25:11
Speaker 3: And you gotta remember too, this is the Jacks defense
25:14
Speaker 3: has struggled against everybody their thirty second in the league and
25:16
Speaker 3: pass defense coming in.
25:20
Speaker 1: Could you argue it's the best team best team for
25:22
Speaker 1: the Jacks to play the Patriots in this incurty.
25:25
Speaker 3: I mean, let's I mean, doesn't you've got to go
25:28
Speaker 3: win against somebody sometime.
25:29
Speaker 2: Might as well take advantage if if they're going to
25:31
Speaker 2: be able to play like that.
25:32
Speaker 3: So I think in general, speed it up for the
25:35
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, make him think, change coverage, just do anything
25:38
Speaker 3: you can. But did the Jaguars have the communication on
25:41
Speaker 3: the back end and be able to do that consistently
25:44
Speaker 3: and handle it on their own with all these changes
25:46
Speaker 3: and ideas and philosophies want to do against what can
25:49
Speaker 3: they do that and operate on their own? Never mind
25:52
Speaker 3: who the quarterback is. I think that's a big question.
25:54
Speaker 3: With so many injuries right now, guys off to the side,
25:58
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's a huge question.
26:01
Speaker 4: I hope the Patriots turn up tired, and I hope
26:04
Speaker 4: Jags fans turn up in a big way and make
26:07
Speaker 4: it feel like a home game and they just dominate,
26:10
Speaker 4: and it's all turns around in that week of being
26:13
Speaker 4: in the country, that week of bonding, that week of
26:15
Speaker 4: being able to turn it around. I hope that comes
26:17
Speaker 4: together next Sunday and it's just the start of something different.
26:20
Speaker 3: The Patriots should go out on a rager every night
26:22
Speaker 3: until three of them more.
26:24
Speaker 2: That's what they should do. Just go wild. Enjoy it.
26:29
Speaker 1: You in London, enjoy it. I love that advice of
26:36
Speaker 1: JP Tell you what New England night before? Just stay up,
26:40
Speaker 1: Just stay up, see what happens. You might do all right,
26:43
Speaker 1: rememb there's something if you go to sleep, So what's
26:46
Speaker 1: going on? You know, sitting the never sleep sort of
26:50
Speaker 1: the this time every every single episode we do our
26:54
Speaker 1: predictions for the next week. I know we are straight
26:57
Speaker 1: after the Bears game. I know that Patriots haven't finished
27:00
Speaker 1: they game, so inevitably after talking about how they're losing
27:03
Speaker 1: to the Texans right now, they'll go back and it
27:05
Speaker 1: will be an excellent win. Can we give our predictions
27:09
Speaker 1: right now?
27:09
Speaker 2: JP?
27:09
Speaker 1: Do you feel up to it?
27:11
Speaker 2: Just I don't know what the hell this team's gonna do.
27:15
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know if.
27:17
Speaker 3: They're gonna, you know, score like they did last week
27:21
Speaker 3: and throw the ball around and be efficient and do
27:23
Speaker 3: things well and have a couple of breakaway touchdowns, or
27:27
Speaker 3: they're gonna drop the ball.
27:28
Speaker 2: And fumble it. I mean, you have a pretty good
27:31
Speaker 2: idea what the defense is gonna do.
27:33
Speaker 3: They're gonna give some stuff up at least that's been
27:35
Speaker 3: the trend so far.
27:36
Speaker 2: So I don't like that. I don't like that trend
27:38
Speaker 2: at all.
27:38
Speaker 3: So I'd love to say that the Jaguars can win,
27:43
Speaker 3: and they can win, but they haven't proven that they're
27:46
Speaker 3: able to put a complete game together as a football
27:48
Speaker 3: team in a long long time, really since the first
27:50
Speaker 3: half of last year. So it's a winnable game, sure,
27:54
Speaker 3: because it's the Patriots and it's the next game.
27:56
Speaker 2: In the NFL. You can win any game. They got
27:58
Speaker 2: the personnel to do it. But I can give you
28:01
Speaker 2: no kids play better and win. I don't know.
28:06
Speaker 1: That's that's a good week or two.
28:07
Speaker 2: I'll take a field goal and a safety.
28:09
Speaker 1: That's fine.
28:14
Speaker 4: You've taken my ridiculous presiction, which I was going to
28:17
Speaker 4: say twelve nine, and it's all field goals.
28:19
Speaker 1: Man twelve nine or field goals Cam Little gets on there.
28:23
Speaker 1: How Little goes home happy, I'm happy. I'm going to
28:27
Speaker 1: go for a low scoring game as well, maybe not
28:29
Speaker 1: quite as ridiculous. Let's just put it out there and
28:32
Speaker 1: say a seventeen fourteen victory.
28:37
Speaker 4: I would love to see Cam Little get a winning
28:40
Speaker 4: field goal at Wembley. That would like he would love
28:42
Speaker 4: that to see his face after that, after everything he
28:45
Speaker 4: said about playing at Wembley and how much it means
28:47
Speaker 4: to him.
28:47
Speaker 6: That would be so good.
28:49
Speaker 1: I did quite enjoy. One of the things I did
28:50
Speaker 1: quite enjoy seeing on the field today was before the
28:53
Speaker 1: game you saw Cam Little is doing his warm up,
28:55
Speaker 1: but he he has the American football out there, but
28:58
Speaker 1: he's treating it like it's it's our f or like
29:00
Speaker 1: he is doing like kickups, and it's kind of like
29:03
Speaker 1: fun to think that in his mind, he's thinking, I'm
29:07
Speaker 1: at Tottenahots first stadium, you know, and next week will
29:09
Speaker 1: be even more It'll be like I'm at Wembley Stadium
29:12
Speaker 1: and just having a few kickups on the field there
29:14
Speaker 1: is because I think this happened before. Actually I can't
29:16
Speaker 1: remember who it was now. The former Jags kicker a
29:18
Speaker 1: few years ago was a huge football fan, and you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: for him playing at Wembley it was such a massive deal.
29:26
Speaker 1: The biggest deal though, for next week, I think this
29:29
Speaker 1: is fair to say, is the initial duval starting the
29:33
Speaker 1: whole game. JP the starting the whole game, the guy
29:38
Speaker 1: that's doing the whole the big Douval, the kickers off,
29:40
Speaker 1: I'm doing that. So I'm sure that's going to be
29:42
Speaker 1: the most exciting moment for you for them. Okay, come on,
29:47
Speaker 1: come on, this is my British accent coming out. No, no,
29:53
Speaker 1: I feel I tell you what I feel, under pressure right.
29:56
Speaker 2: Now, eighty thousand people next week. This is.
30:05
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is how I will do it.
30:07
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
30:08
Speaker 2: JP.
30:10
Speaker 1: Move move, he said, don't say move aile and ever
30:13
Speaker 1: since then I'm like, I'm gonna say move all. My
30:15
Speaker 1: voice is going to break. Duval do you prefer? Is that?
30:20
Speaker 2: Is that?
30:20
Speaker 1: Okay?
30:21
Speaker 2: It's your Oh no, come.
30:23
Speaker 4: On, make it your own man.
30:26
Speaker 1: That's gonna say a completely different word anyway, JP, thank
30:30
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us.
30:32
Speaker 2: I wish it was under better circumstances. But let's layer
30:36
Speaker 2: the land right now.
30:37
Speaker 3: Next week one in five maybe we'll have a better
30:39
Speaker 3: result than the ary.
30:42
Speaker 1: This has been a shooting sharp production for Jacksonville, Jaguars
30:46
Speaker 1: UK and Ireland. I'm Jay Lawrence, He's Key Ramsar and
30:49
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. Will be in a better
30:52
Speaker 1: mood next week, I promise.
31:00
Speaker 4: At last.
31:03
Speaker 9: Putts tolst