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Why Young People Are Breaking Down Over Politics | Will Witt & Ashley Brasfield · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: Something is seriously wrong in this country. Why can't some
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Speaker 1: young people even have a conversation anymore? They don't argue,
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Speaker 1: they shut down. Sometimes they burst out in tears. I
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Speaker 1: talked to somebody will Wit who's on college campuses every day,
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Speaker 1: and what he's seeing is wild. I like what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: I think you're doing it right, But there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of people who are just yelling at each other
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Speaker 1: and nobody's learning anything the way that they were all
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Speaker 1: this whole time from you and from Charlie and from others.
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Speaker 1: What are you finding on these campuses.
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Speaker 2: I find that to very much be the case. And
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Speaker 2: you know, I've been doing this for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Ten years I was going out on the campuses with
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Speaker 2: Prager you and making videos and stuff a turning point.
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Speaker 2: So I've been doing this for a long time. And
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Speaker 2: it's not even just that the debates have gotten worse
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Speaker 2: in the sense that people just want to get clips
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Speaker 2: of like haha, look at this stupid liberal. You know,
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Speaker 2: so many people on the right making these things. But
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Speaker 2: in reality, the I don't want to say like the excellence,
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Speaker 2: but I guess you could say the excellence of the
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Speaker 2: youth is actually declining.
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Speaker 3: As well.
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Speaker 2: I think that has something to do with COVID and
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Speaker 2: has something to do with the screens and AI and
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Speaker 2: all these different factors that are making it so that
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Speaker 2: these young people now they can't even look you in
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Speaker 2: the eye they can hold a conversation. They have no
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Speaker 2: way to have an attention span to actually have one
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Speaker 2: of these conversations. And so the debates usually don't even
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Speaker 2: turn into a lot of debates a lot of the
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Speaker 2: time because these students just are They've been failed. They've
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Speaker 2: been failed by the education system, failed by technology, failed
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Speaker 2: by their parents in all sorts of ways.
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Speaker 3: So it's very disheartening.
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Speaker 2: But I do still when I go out there and
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Speaker 2: I'm doing these pick up the mics on the college campuses,
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Speaker 2: you do get a lot of students, And granted, it
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Speaker 2: takes a lot of bravery for one of these students
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Speaker 2: to come and actually want to have a debate when
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Speaker 2: they know that you know, we're filming it, it could
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Speaker 2: go online.
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Speaker 3: All of those kinds of things.
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Speaker 2: So I do commend anyone who comes up and does
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Speaker 2: one of these debates. But yeah, it is changing. It
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Speaker 2: is not the same as when I started.
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Speaker 1: You make an amazing point about COVID. Not many people
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Speaker 1: talk about that the lockdown hurt kids that were in
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Speaker 1: middle school, high school. I mean we're talking six years
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Speaker 1: ago now, almost seven years ago. So a lot of
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Speaker 1: these people that you're facing in college campuses were in
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Speaker 1: middle school and they weren't allowed to go to school.
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Speaker 1: They could socialized, they couldn't actually learn, and we know
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Speaker 1: that psychologically that was very damaging and none of it
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Speaker 1: was necessary. The lockdown was completely unnecessary. Young people were
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Speaker 1: not at risk almost at all, of dying from coviding. Certainly,
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Speaker 1: you know, they got rid of it at a very
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Speaker 1: quick pace compared to somebody like my age. So we
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Speaker 1: are seeing that. I've seen some videos well, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you have as well, and you probably have faced
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Speaker 1: this in person. I want you to tell me if
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Speaker 1: you did. Where somebody will make an argument Trump is bad,
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Speaker 1: here's why, or socialism is good, here's why, and then
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Speaker 1: you'll say, well, I disagree, and here's my reasoning. They'll
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Speaker 1: start crying, like literally crying, or they'll start screaming what
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Speaker 1: is that.
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Speaker 2: Well, when I first moved to LA and I went
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Speaker 2: on a date with a girl I met her on
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Speaker 2: Tinder and she actually picked me up for the date.
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Speaker 3: I didn't have a car at the time.
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Speaker 2: It was very progressive of me, and she picked me
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Speaker 2: up and it was a fun night and we had
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Speaker 2: a great time. And then at the end she's like,
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Speaker 2: this is right when I started preparing for you. She's like, well,
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Speaker 2: what do you do for work? I didn't get to
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Speaker 2: ask you. I'm like, oh, I work in politics. She's like,
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Speaker 2: what kind of politics, like conservative politics? Who'd you vote for?
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Speaker 2: I voted for Trump, of course. And she turns away
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Speaker 2: from me, and I'm like trying to figure out a
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Speaker 2: way to leave this conversation. And she turns back and
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Speaker 2: she's crying. She's crying, and I'm like.
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Speaker 3: What is going on?
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Speaker 2: Why are you crying right now? She said, I just
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Speaker 2: can't believe I went on a date with a Trump supporter.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Will what on earth?
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Speaker 3: I'm a heartbreaker? John? I mean, what are you gonna do?
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Speaker 1: Plus she had to pick you up? Hopefully you paid
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Speaker 1: for the dinner. At least I.
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Speaker 3: Did pay for the dinner. I did pay for the dinner.
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Speaker 3: But unfortunately that relationship didn't work out. As you can approbably, well.
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Speaker 1: Well it's a but it's a mental illness. My friend.
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Speaker 1: How do we how do we beat that? It's funny,
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Speaker 1: it's a great story, but how do we beat that?
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Speaker 1: People literally will say, I cannot be your relative anymore
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Speaker 1: if you voted for Trump. And then you'll say, well,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the issues. I don't want to talk
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Speaker 1: about the issues. He's this, that and the other thing.
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Speaker 1: And he's a no good orange man bad and that's it,
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Speaker 1: and they really think that's the bl end all. How
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Speaker 1: were how was the left? And I think academia, as
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Speaker 1: you as you point out every day, has a lot
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Speaker 1: to do with this, But how was the left able
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Speaker 1: to tell people not only should you hate this guy,
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Speaker 1: you should never listen to somebody who tries to give
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Speaker 1: you reason not to.
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Speaker 2: Because it has nothing to actually do with politics, that
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Speaker 2: it has everything to do with meaning and purpose. And
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Speaker 2: you have young people right now who have been completely
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Speaker 2: atomized and feel like, oh my goodness, the world is
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Speaker 2: so horrible. It's very existential, very nihilistic. And so then
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Speaker 2: you have these leftists come in and the academia and
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Speaker 2: social media and the entertainment industry, and they come and say, well,
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Speaker 2: we have this solution. You know the world is dying
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Speaker 2: because of climate change and you can save it. Black
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Speaker 2: people are being taken advantage of by white people. You
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Speaker 2: can save black people, you can save gay people, you know,
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Speaker 2: whatever it is. And it's like, now this young person
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Speaker 2: comes in and says, I can be a hero. I
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Speaker 2: can do something with my life that actually means something,
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Speaker 2: and that gives them that sense of purpose, that sense
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Speaker 2: of meaning in their lives that they crave so much.
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Speaker 2: I think we are in a meaning and purpose deficit.
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Speaker 2: I mean that is what I see as the biggest
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Speaker 2: problem facing the youth today. It's not just you know,
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Speaker 2: political issues. It goes deeper than that. That we have
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Speaker 2: a structured society in this way. I think that's been
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Speaker 2: very poor for young people to actually find something that
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Speaker 2: gives them value in their life. And so this is
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Speaker 2: why these people are that way, because you know, if
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Speaker 2: it was any sort of different ideology, they believe it
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Speaker 2: in the same way. Because it has nothing to do
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Speaker 2: with the actual politics, the facts, the logic behind it.
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Speaker 2: It's simply because they are looking for something to fill
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Speaker 2: avoid in their lives that they don't have purebasics.
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Speaker 1: Collective dot com is his website. He's the CEO of
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Speaker 1: that company. It's will wit Go and check out Will
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Speaker 1: and all the social media and definitely go see him
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Speaker 1: on a college tour if he's anywhere near you. Well,
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Speaker 1: you said something great there, man, You just really laid
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Speaker 1: down the gauntlet. They are offering them purpose, they're offering
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Speaker 1: them inclusion, They're offering them a place where they can
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Speaker 1: say I belong there. So why aren't conservatives doing a
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Speaker 1: better job with that? You and I both know that
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Speaker 1: we're right. We're correct, not just leaning right. We're correct
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Speaker 1: on the issues and it's objectively we're correct. How do
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Speaker 1: we make them understand that could be part of a
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Speaker 1: bigger thing and they can have a purpose, and that
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Speaker 1: purpose is believe in the Constitution, believe in Jaeo Christian
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Speaker 1: values or Western society. Why aren't we doing a better
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Speaker 1: job with that? I think you are. I'm trying, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I really think it comes down to the fact that
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Speaker 2: conservatives aren't We don't embellish the points as the left does. Right, Like,
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Speaker 2: I think it's getting to a place now where we're like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: things are really bad and we're talking to people about
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Speaker 2: it and they can kind of get that, like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm saving America now by being a conservative and you're
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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of people doing that and saying America
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Speaker 2: is really falling apart. But for the last you know,
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Speaker 2: eight nine years, I don't really think there was that
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Speaker 2: type of urgency from conservatives. You know, it was kind
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Speaker 2: of just like, here's what we believe, and everything that
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Speaker 2: we believe is just a defense of what the left
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Speaker 2: was saying. Instead of saying, here's what we need to
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Speaker 2: put forward as our action plan so that we can
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Speaker 2: save America, it's like, let's react to the left and
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Speaker 2: everything they do. And this is why we lose culturally
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Speaker 2: and on all these different things because we're constantly on
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Speaker 2: the back foot and they we capitulate all the time.
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Speaker 2: The left doesn't capitulate. It's taken instrit from a mile
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Speaker 2: every single time. And the fact that you know, so
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Speaker 2: many of the Repubs looks in Congress care more about
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Speaker 2: what the New York Times writes about them than actually
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Speaker 2: standing up for the constituents means they're going to continually
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Speaker 2: bend over backwards for these people on the left over
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Speaker 2: and over and over again, where these people on the
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Speaker 2: left will never bend.
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Speaker 3: Over backwards for us.
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Speaker 2: And so without that sense of almost like a grander plan,
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Speaker 2: of action, which I think in DeSantis here in florida's
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Speaker 2: actually done that very well. Yeah, and changed a lot
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Speaker 2: of things and really made Florida a great place. But
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Speaker 2: without that sense of urgency, I don't know if you're
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Speaker 2: going to have young people come in and say, Wow,
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Speaker 2: this is something I really need to fight for, you know,
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Speaker 2: and just conserving something versus doing something new is just
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Speaker 2: granted a little bit more boring, you know, it's not
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Speaker 2: as rebellious, it's not as free spirited in that way,
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Speaker 2: and so you really have to start, I think, talking
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Speaker 2: to young people about the real thing that's happening and
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Speaker 2: give them a plan of action instead of just a
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Speaker 2: defense against this.
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Speaker 1: It's a great point. He's a best selling author, international speaker,
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Speaker 1: CEO of Pure Basics Collective that a Pure Basis collective
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Speaker 1: dot comments will win. Let's talk about something specific that
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Speaker 1: just happened, like yesterday or the day before. I was
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Speaker 1: going through TikTok last night. I've got a really big
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Speaker 1: following on TikTok. But man, conservatives are outnumbered there in
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Speaker 1: a major way. And every single person who's on the left,
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Speaker 1: who even those pretending they're not even political, we're talking
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Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court ruling about legislative districts and about
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Speaker 1: the civil the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five,
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Speaker 1: and how section two doesn't really say what people have
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Speaker 1: been pretending that it says. Every single liberal with a
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Speaker 1: very small following or a huge following started with this line.
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Speaker 1: They just gutted the Voting Rights Act. They just get
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Speaker 1: They all used the word gutted. I'm like, you guys,
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Speaker 1: don't think that we see the script. But then I
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Speaker 1: thought to myself, if they're not in the business I'm in,
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Speaker 1: or what you do will then people just scrolling through
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Speaker 1: it to hear everybody's saying, oh my god, they gut
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Speaker 1: the voting right, Oh my god, Black people are disenfranchised now,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, they got it gutta gutted. How do
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Speaker 1: we combat that? Because they're messaging, we have to admit,
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Speaker 1: and again not specifically better than yours or better than mine,
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Speaker 1: but their messaging in general is better than conservative messaging.
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Speaker 1: How do we battle that. Let's just use that exams
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Speaker 1: as as let's go forward with that. They say it's gutted.
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Speaker 1: Black people are disenfranchised, now, Hispanics are disenfranchised. White man
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Speaker 1: are tried to dominate every district. How do we fight back?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's Jeremiah twelve to one. Why is the
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Speaker 2: way of the wicked prosper right? And for me, this
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Speaker 2: really comes down to the fact that it's so much
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Speaker 2: easier to lie and be dishonest to get people to
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Speaker 2: follow you. And this is the left's playbook, you know,
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Speaker 2: And honestly, it's a lot of people on you know,
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Speaker 2: the weak Republican side playbook in the exact same way,
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Speaker 2: because they say, oh, I'm I'm going to fight for you,
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Speaker 2: and then they're all a bunch of liars and users.
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Speaker 3: So it's the same type of deal. And that's such
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Speaker 3: an easy thing to do it.
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Speaker 2: And so when these people are coming with these lies
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Speaker 2: about the redistricting and black people are disenfranchised, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think like some of the most successful videos that
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Speaker 2: I did was like when I dressed up as a
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Speaker 2: Mexican and talked about cultural appropriately so good, because so
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Speaker 2: good it was it was irrefutable evidence that what they
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Speaker 2: were saying was one hundred percent wrong. You know, I
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Speaker 2: didn't go into academia and write a paper about it.
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Speaker 2: I didn't need facts and studies and and all this
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff I win in the field, and I
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Speaker 2: showed that this is a truth, and that video is
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Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty million views.
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Speaker 3: I'm amazing insanity of the views.
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Speaker 2: And so what I really think that it comes down
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Speaker 2: to that conservatives can do to showcase these things is again,
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Speaker 2: these people aren't working on facts. This is their meaning
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Speaker 2: and purpose that they're looking for. So don't try and
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Speaker 2: get them on the factual basis. Go into the places
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Speaker 2: and actually show these things in action happening. If they say,
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Speaker 2: you know, all black people can't get voter ID and
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Speaker 2: all these kind of things, it's like us going into
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Speaker 2: the black neighborhoods and finding out they do have IDs,
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Speaker 2: they can vote, they can actually go and do these
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Speaker 2: things right. And so I think that's the way that
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Speaker 2: we do it. But I think a lot of conservatives
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Speaker 2: just kind of want to stand on a pedestal and
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Speaker 2: be like, well, we have the facts, so you know,
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Speaker 2: that's all we need. But in reality, I think we
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Speaker 2: need to get into those places and really start showcasing
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Speaker 2: what the truth actually is.
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Speaker 1: It's well what the latest books, do not comply tell
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Speaker 1: me about that, because when you say do not comply,
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Speaker 1: as a conservative, conservatives a lot of times will say
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Speaker 1: to say to somebody in the traffic stop, comply. Just
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Speaker 1: do what they say. You can take it up later
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Speaker 1: in court. So I think it can be misconstrued in
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Speaker 1: this context. What do you mean when you say do
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Speaker 1: not comply?
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Speaker 2: It means that the most noble thing you can do
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Speaker 2: in your life is pursue truth. And if you are
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Speaker 2: basically complying and not pursuing the truth in every aspect
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Speaker 2: of your life and what you're doing, you're going to
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Speaker 2: be sacrificing a part of yourself. And so it doesn't
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Speaker 2: like that book came out around COVID time or just
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Speaker 2: you know, after COVID and that people thought about like, oh,
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Speaker 2: not comply with the vaccines and the mass and the
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Speaker 2: six feet apart and all that, and that is of
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Speaker 2: course true. But it's really about anyone trying to make
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Speaker 2: you into a slave, someone trying to come and say
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Speaker 2: you have to do this, this is the way things work,
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Speaker 2: and you're just going along with it.
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Speaker 3: Or you have to think a certain type of way.
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Speaker 2: Or you have to be a certain way to be
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Speaker 2: the right Republican, or you know, whatever it is, and
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Speaker 2: all of that is nonsense. You know, we were gifted
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Speaker 2: with these incredible brains that were able to use discernment
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Speaker 2: and logic and think things through, and then also the
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Speaker 2: ability to have that thinking and then make actions based
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Speaker 2: on that. And if you're going to sacrifice yourself and
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Speaker 2: the things you believe in and all of that just
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Speaker 2: to not get in trouble or to feel safer or
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Speaker 2: more comfortable, this is why our country is in the
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Speaker 2: place that it is, you know, that is why we
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Speaker 2: continually lose and are on the back foot. I think
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Speaker 2: that that do not comply a message against an elite
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Speaker 2: who absolutely hates us is the biggest thing we can
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Speaker 2: do right now, especially as I'm talking to young people.
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Speaker 2: The young people in this country are almost entirely apathetic
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Speaker 2: to Republicans and Democrats, you know, even like the little
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Speaker 2: communists you meet on campus, or like I hate Joe Biden,
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Speaker 2: I hate Kamala. You know, they don't like these people,
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Speaker 2: but they know they because they have no trust for
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Speaker 2: the elites. Like the White House Correspondence Center shooting that
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Speaker 2: just happened, right you know, there's all these people, you know,
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Speaker 2: saying it's staged or whatever for the ballroom, and it's like,
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Speaker 2: you know, who knows. But in the sense of like
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Speaker 2: the fact that you have so many people coming out
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Speaker 2: and saying this could be fake, this could be staged,
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Speaker 2: shows just the level of anti authority, anti trust that
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Speaker 2: people have in any institution in this country.
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Speaker 1: But that's changed a lot, and generally speaking, they look
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Speaker 1: at it that way through conspiracy theorist eyes when it
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Speaker 1: has to do with the writer, when it has to
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Speaker 1: do with Trump. And what I mean is people like
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Speaker 1: you and me were saying, don't comply during COVID. I
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Speaker 1: never wore a mask. I didn't take the shot. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's my body. How dare you tell me what I
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Speaker 1: have to do. But a lot of people on the
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Speaker 1: left now that are conspiracy theorists were all just falling
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Speaker 1: in line. Yeah, you've got to take the shot. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: six feet distancing makes sense. That was made up. Masks work,
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Speaker 1: They don't people men thirty and under have to take
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Speaker 1: the job, even though it was actually causing you know,
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Speaker 1: all sorts of heart issues with people in that age
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Speaker 1: range and in that gender. I mean, we watch people comply.
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Speaker 1: Oh damn it, I've got to get a shot to
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Speaker 1: go to dinner. I've got to get a shot to
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Speaker 1: go to the theater. I've got to get a shot
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Speaker 1: to be a medical worker or somebody in the military.
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Speaker 1: So is this a brand new thing because everything Trump
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Speaker 1: does must be fake because back then the people that
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Speaker 1: you're talking about all got in line.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know a lot of these people were
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Speaker 2: conservatives who got in line.
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Speaker 3: Yes, people who said that they were Republicans.
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Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason why a lot of
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Speaker 2: these things were allowed to continue to happen is because
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Speaker 2: both conservatives and leftis on the same lockstep, joined forced
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Speaker 2: us and said Okay, we're going to lock it down.
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Speaker 2: We're going to do all of these things. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's definitely not a new issue. But just in terms
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Speaker 2: of like when I'm going to campus and talking to
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Speaker 2: young people like you don't have young conservatives who are
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Speaker 2: nearly as excited about Trump now right like as they
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Speaker 2: were when I was doing this in twenty seventeen, twenty
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Speaker 2: eighteen talking to students like you. All the you know,
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Speaker 2: right wing students were all wearing MAGA hats and super
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Speaker 2: pro Trump and all that, where you're not seeing that
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Speaker 2: in the same way, you know, and you're not seeing
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Speaker 2: the Democrat kids supporting the Democrat Party at all. You know,
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Speaker 2: they don't care, and so there just seems to be
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Speaker 2: with the young generation like it's a switch, like a
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Speaker 2: very anti authority switch that has happened where they just
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Speaker 2: don't trust in any institutions. And a lot of ways
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Speaker 2: I can empathize with them. I can empathize, especially like
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Speaker 2: you see the media and how they twist things and
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Speaker 2: how they lie. You know, why would they have any
14:54
Speaker 2: trust in the media, And now with AI and all this,
14:57
Speaker 2: I mean really like I can understand why a lot
14:59
Speaker 2: of people are starting to feel this way.
15:01
Speaker 1: It's gonna get harder as we go, that's for sure.
15:02
Speaker 1: A pure basics collective dot com, get the book, call,
15:04
Speaker 1: do not compliance will wit. Let me finish with this.
15:07
Speaker 1: I've always prided myself being a man. I like being
15:09
Speaker 1: a man. I like being responsible for my family and
15:12
Speaker 1: my people and support everybody in hunt and gather and
15:14
Speaker 1: grunt every once in a while. We have raised an
15:17
Speaker 1: entire generation where a large percentage doesn't believe masculinity is good.
15:22
Speaker 1: They've been told it's toxic, it's bad. You shouldn't be
15:24
Speaker 1: a man. There shouldn't be a man in women roles
15:26
Speaker 1: you're somebody who believes in masculinity being important, being a
15:29
Speaker 1: man is important. What are you finding in college campuses
15:32
Speaker 1: or even on the man on the street stuff that
15:33
Speaker 1: that you do so incredibly? What are you finding from
15:36
Speaker 1: the males in this ourt society today? Are they coming
15:39
Speaker 1: around realizing that they've got a man up quite literally?
15:42
Speaker 1: Or are are you still seeing a bunch of weak
15:44
Speaker 1: men going I don't want to be toxic.
15:47
Speaker 3: I think it's really like gen Z.
15:49
Speaker 2: Like people are saying, oh, gen Z is becoming more conservative, right,
15:52
Speaker 2: it's going to be like the most conservative generation in
15:54
Speaker 2: all this, But really I don't necessarily see that. I
15:56
Speaker 2: don't know if it has anything to do with being
15:58
Speaker 2: a conservative. What I see is as is like a
16:01
Speaker 2: complete disillusion of the status quo right where they will
16:05
Speaker 2: be abrasive and brash and say things that are uncouth
16:09
Speaker 2: all the time just for the sake of doing that,
16:11
Speaker 2: because they know that the world is setting these types
16:13
Speaker 2: of standards on them. Right, so that when that comes
16:15
Speaker 2: to the masculinity aspect with these young men, I think
16:18
Speaker 2: there have been kind of these hijackers in this like
16:21
Speaker 2: new masculine movement who have.
16:24
Speaker 3: Really led a lot of young men in the wrong direction.
16:27
Speaker 2: And I think that, like, you know, some of these
16:29
Speaker 2: guys who are like these alpha male type of guys,
16:31
Speaker 2: and I think that's been horrible for young men actually,
16:35
Speaker 2: you know. And so you're seeing young men who want
16:39
Speaker 2: something more. You know, there was that thing maybe like
16:41
Speaker 2: two years ago where girlfriends were asking their boyfriends how
16:44
Speaker 2: often they thought about ancient Rome and they're like, oh,
16:46
Speaker 2: all the time, like every week or every day or
16:48
Speaker 2: something like that.
16:49
Speaker 3: It's like, why are they doing that?
16:50
Speaker 2: Because they want something more than the life that is
16:52
Speaker 2: given to them now. They want some sort of great struggle,
16:54
Speaker 2: something to fight for. So the masculinity that I'm seeing
16:57
Speaker 2: from the young men on campus are the real men
16:59
Speaker 2: who are going and looking for that purpose again, going
17:01
Speaker 2: back to the purpose and meeting, it's I think is
17:03
Speaker 2: the most important issue. They want some great struggle. They
17:06
Speaker 2: want to find really true love that they can share
17:08
Speaker 2: this purpose.
17:09
Speaker 3: And meeting with.
17:10
Speaker 2: And those are the real men you're seeing on the
17:11
Speaker 2: college campuses. But the ones who aren't looking for that,
17:14
Speaker 2: who take the easy way out again, we're the ones
17:16
Speaker 2: who complied, you know, skate through life and the easy mode.
17:20
Speaker 2: Those are the ones who are the real weak men,
17:22
Speaker 2: you know, not even just like purple hair and earrings
17:25
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. It's really just like
17:27
Speaker 2: you either understand that the world is horrible and you
17:30
Speaker 2: have to struggle and you make something beautiful with it,
17:32
Speaker 2: or you let other people take care of you and never.
17:36
Speaker 3: Challenge yourself for anything.
17:38
Speaker 1: So good, go to it. Definitely did go to Pure
17:40
Speaker 1: Basics collective dot com. Let me finish with this. How
17:42
Speaker 1: do people find out when you're going to be somewhere speaking, debating,
17:45
Speaker 1: taking people on, educating people? How do we know that?
17:48
Speaker 1: Is there a website? Do we go to your ex?
17:50
Speaker 1: What do we do? Yeah?
17:52
Speaker 3: Go to my Instagram?
17:53
Speaker 2: I post on Instagram definitely the most it's at the
17:55
Speaker 2: will Wit And then also you can follow.
17:56
Speaker 3: Turning Point USA for all the events I'm doing as well.
17:58
Speaker 1: What a crazy busy week was? News wise?
18:01
Speaker 3: Right?
18:01
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Speaker 1: Now back to the video floating around TikTok last night,
19:15
Speaker 1: and as I was swiping, all the liberal dorks on
19:18
Speaker 1: TikTok were saying the Voting Rights Actor of nineteen sixty
19:21
Speaker 1: five was gutted. They all used the same word gutted.
19:23
Speaker 1: I think they all get a script it says say gutted,
19:25
Speaker 1: and people really, oh my god, I can't believe they
19:27
Speaker 1: gutted it, which of course is in what happened. They
19:29
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court basically said you can't be a racist
19:32
Speaker 1: anymore when selecting representative districts in states, and Louisiana won
19:36
Speaker 1: the case, and now maybe you'll get better representation throughout
19:39
Speaker 1: the country and not the jerrymandering that we're seeing in
19:42
Speaker 1: so much of it. To that end, let me get
19:44
Speaker 1: with Ashby Brassfield. She's a great reporter from the Daily
19:46
Speaker 1: Caller Daily Caller dot com. Ashley, how are you good
19:48
Speaker 1: to see it?
19:49
Speaker 4: Good to see you too, And I can't believe you're
19:50
Speaker 4: on TikTok. This is amazing. You're in the know for sure.
19:53
Speaker 1: Then one point one million followers, Ashley, if you're not
19:56
Speaker 1: following me, you're one of the few slip he's going
20:00
Speaker 1: to do that talk to me. In researching this, clearly
20:04
Speaker 1: every leftists got the same memo, say it was gutted,
20:07
Speaker 1: say black people were just disenfranchised. Sunny Houstin is almost
20:11
Speaker 1: crying on the view. What did the Supreme Court do
20:13
Speaker 1: did I miss something?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean the Supreme Court basically voted in
20:18
Speaker 4: favor of not promoting institutionalized racism, I would say at
20:22
Speaker 4: this point. And that's kind of what was happening in Louisiana.
20:24
Speaker 4: And you know, I know, the one person who's gonna
20:26
Speaker 4: throw a fit over this is actually a former Attorney
20:28
Speaker 4: general into the Obama administration, Eric Holder, because he went
20:31
Speaker 4: in a lot of these southern states and was the
20:33
Speaker 4: one that did a lot of the redistricting just a
20:35
Speaker 4: few years ago. So I've done many pieces with The
20:39
Speaker 4: Daily Caller looking at which party Republican and Democrat, very
20:42
Speaker 4: neutral way of who's better at redistricting. And it's been a,
20:46
Speaker 4: you know, quite obvious that the Democrats have been better
20:48
Speaker 4: historically in this issue. I mean you look at places
20:51
Speaker 4: like Illinois. You saw the response by Gavin Newsom in
20:53
Speaker 4: California to what he says is Texas's met you know
20:56
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. So and then most recently Virginia.
21:00
Speaker 4: But now the southern states that tend to vote Republican
21:03
Speaker 4: are kind of fighting back here. We're seeing this in Alabama,
21:06
Speaker 4: South Carolina is starting the conversation. Florida, Ronda Santis just
21:10
Speaker 4: put for the new map with four different four more
21:12
Speaker 4: seats towards Republicans. So the Republicans are coming back swinging
21:16
Speaker 4: a little bit here. I know they failed in Indiana
21:18
Speaker 4: just a couple of months ago, but this is a big,
21:20
Speaker 4: big jump over in Louisiana. I would say, it really is.
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Speaker 1: You're young and happening and very very smart. So why
21:26
Speaker 1: are people of your generation seemingly so easily indoctrinateable? And
21:31
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is they really are buying
21:34
Speaker 1: that somehow black people were disenfranchised two days ago. Now
21:37
Speaker 1: Sunny Houstin saying it doesn't mean anything. She's a very
21:39
Speaker 1: rich person who lives in an ivorytower, will be Goldberg
21:42
Speaker 1: saying something doesn't matter. She's a very rich person living
21:44
Speaker 1: in an ivorytower. They know they're not losing any rights,
21:47
Speaker 1: but it's easier for them to say it and then
21:49
Speaker 1: say it's because we're black. But there are young people
21:51
Speaker 1: in your age range and even younger who are saying,
21:54
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're going back to Jim Crow. Why
21:57
Speaker 1: is it so easy to get through to them? Do
21:58
Speaker 1: you think so?
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Speaker 4: You see who owns most of the media. It's the
22:01
Speaker 4: left wing outlets, I would say here, but I mean
22:04
Speaker 4: it's a pretty common sense argument here. I don't think
22:06
Speaker 4: the primary reason that you should be doing redistricting, much
22:08
Speaker 4: like you shouldn't be doing redistricting for people with just
22:11
Speaker 4: green eyes or red hair, even that I can speak
22:13
Speaker 4: for myself based off of personal traits, I don't think
22:16
Speaker 4: that's the way you should be doing things. And that
22:18
Speaker 4: was kind of the primary argument in the Supreme Court
22:20
Speaker 4: case is that the primary reason that this redistricting dot
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Speaker 4: was done was because of the enfranchisement of black voters
22:27
Speaker 4: in Louisiana. And yes, they do make up one third
22:30
Speaker 4: of the state. But I think any American with that
22:32
Speaker 4: common sense argument would be able to see that. The
22:34
Speaker 4: unfortunate part is gen Z doesn't tend to get a
22:37
Speaker 4: lot of that information. And that's why it's great that
22:39
Speaker 4: to see you on TikTok, because I think that's a
22:41
Speaker 4: primary factor actually, and a lot of this is a
22:43
Speaker 4: lot of these conservative outlets are actually not on the platform,
22:45
Speaker 4: and that I think the argument that China owns it
22:48
Speaker 4: it's a good one. But I do think that that
22:50
Speaker 4: for gen Z and my peers, that is a place
22:53
Speaker 4: where they get their news.
22:54
Speaker 1: Actually, Brassfield, go and follow her overrun Dailycollar dot com.
22:57
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you run all the social media. Is it
22:59
Speaker 1: just your first and last name together.
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Speaker 4: Yes, on Aci Brassfield Ashley Ashley Brassfield on Instagram and TikTok.
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Speaker 1: Br as fi E l D. Go and follow her everywhere.
23:10
Speaker 1: One last thing on this. It's not lost on me
23:13
Speaker 1: that the entire New England States doesn't have one representative
23:16
Speaker 1: that's a Republican. Not one. I mean Massachusetts, it's a
23:19
Speaker 1: sixty five to thirty five Democratic Republican state. Zero representation
23:22
Speaker 1: for Republicans. Republicans aren't represented through much of the racist North,
23:27
Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to say anything because somehow they
23:29
Speaker 1: make it about black versus white. But I'll finish with
23:32
Speaker 1: this on this because I want to move on to
23:33
Speaker 1: some other stuff that you're reporting on right now. In
23:35
Speaker 1: the Daily Caller, Colin all Red is a representative from
23:38
Speaker 1: my state. He's black, and he represents a primarily, if
23:41
Speaker 1: almost exclusively white district. If they really got what they wanted,
23:45
Speaker 1: does that mean that Colin all Red can't be a
23:47
Speaker 1: representative from that district in Texas? I'm thinking not.
23:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think not. And you know, I know,
23:53
Speaker 4: I'm a state senator that was out of Oklahoma that
23:56
Speaker 4: kind of had the same argument. He represented a primarily
23:58
Speaker 4: white district and he said, this is not really about race.
24:01
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. You know, I
24:03
Speaker 4: see Georgia that's turned really to a purple state. I
24:07
Speaker 4: don't think that it really is one to be fair
24:09
Speaker 4: with the people I know there. But you know, I
24:11
Speaker 4: think there is politicians in Georgia that specifically don't want
24:14
Speaker 4: to push for redistricting due to the fact that, you know,
24:17
Speaker 4: I think they're a little scared about the pushback that
24:19
Speaker 4: they may get. But I mean, you saw what happened
24:20
Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty four election with President Trump, and
24:23
Speaker 4: you know, they marched them through Fulton County, the southern
24:25
Speaker 4: ast part of the county, which is primarily black section
24:28
Speaker 4: nine thousand, and I think they turned because they saw
24:31
Speaker 4: what was happening to him, and they could relate to
24:33
Speaker 4: it in a lot of ways. So this disenfranchisement of
24:36
Speaker 4: black voters, especially with black men in the twenty twenty
24:38
Speaker 4: four election, I think just completely schues their argument.
24:41
Speaker 1: Well, I'm guessing the twenty twenty election probably should be
24:43
Speaker 1: revisited the special elections in twenty twenty one because they
24:46
Speaker 1: just found three hundred thousand plus that weren't even certified votes,
24:50
Speaker 1: and like nobody's even talking about it. The President called
24:52
Speaker 1: and said, hey, I just needed eleven thousand and seven eighty.
24:55
Speaker 1: I know there are hundreds of thousands that were bad,
24:57
Speaker 1: and we're still acting like it never happened. So I
24:59
Speaker 1: hope that Georgia does get the proper vote, you know,
25:02
Speaker 1: result that it deserves. And I think, like you, like
25:04
Speaker 1: you're suggesting it's a very red state. It's Ashley Brassfield.
25:07
Speaker 1: Go and follow her everywhere on social media, go to
25:09
Speaker 1: Dailycollar dot com. Can you explain to me exactly what
25:13
Speaker 1: the confusion is. I was told that ICE and CBP
25:17
Speaker 1: we're both fully funded through the Big Beautiful Bill, the
25:20
Speaker 1: last Reconciliation, fully funded. Yet somehow the Democrats shut down
25:24
Speaker 1: the government by not wanting to vote on a budget
25:26
Speaker 1: because they didn't they didn't want to fund DHS. They well,
25:28
Speaker 1: they didn't want to fund ICE and CBP. So yesterday
25:31
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson comes out and says, Hey, good news, We're
25:33
Speaker 1: gonna fund ICE and CBP, which I thought was funded
25:35
Speaker 1: in the one Big Beautiful Bill, Ashley, I'm confused, but
25:38
Speaker 1: look at my face. My face hurts. I'm so confused
25:40
Speaker 1: by this. Was it funded in the Big Beautiful Bill?
25:43
Speaker 1: Was it not funded? It doesn't need to be funded
25:45
Speaker 1: now what's going on?
25:47
Speaker 4: So portions of it have been funded, I'll say that,
25:49
Speaker 4: but I think what was funded mainly was the you know,
25:52
Speaker 4: salaries of these agents that are you know, going out
25:54
Speaker 4: on the field. The part about this that was not
25:56
Speaker 4: funded was really the deportations and apprehensions aspects going out
26:00
Speaker 4: and making those arrests, all the operations aspects of that.
26:03
Speaker 4: That's where you're saying the funding and I'm coming into
26:05
Speaker 4: the conversation here and you have I don't. I don't
26:07
Speaker 4: think either party has done a great job of explaining
26:09
Speaker 4: that portion. Another aspect of this that's not taking place
26:13
Speaker 4: yet is the idea that ICE and CBPS border patrol.
26:17
Speaker 4: They're being funded through the reconciliation process and Senate currently,
26:21
Speaker 4: so they're not even a part of the DHS funding bill.
26:23
Speaker 4: And honestly, another aspect of this that's not been clear
26:26
Speaker 4: is why Mike Johnson all of a sudden this week
26:29
Speaker 4: kind of turned and decided, oh, we're going to pass
26:30
Speaker 4: this thing. I mean, it was part of multiple bills
26:32
Speaker 4: that came through this week, Farm Bill TPS as well
26:35
Speaker 4: as DHS funding that he got through. But from what
26:38
Speaker 4: I'm hearing in the media on reports is that President
26:41
Speaker 4: Trump gave him the call saying that this needs to
26:43
Speaker 4: get done, and there was really no reason the hesitation
26:46
Speaker 4: from Johnson that was ever clear. But I think the
26:48
Speaker 4: Republicans have It's been confusing for a lot of you know,
26:51
Speaker 4: people in the base saying that, oh, we funded all
26:53
Speaker 4: this from the big beautiful bill, but we're looking at
26:55
Speaker 4: funding through twenty thirty five with this DHS funding and
26:59
Speaker 4: I believe another any billion in the reconciliation towards ICE
27:02
Speaker 4: and CBP.
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Speaker 1: Do you realize you're the first reporter who has actually
27:05
Speaker 1: said there was the enforcement part that they weren't funding.
27:09
Speaker 1: Nobody else has said that. They just said ICE and
27:11
Speaker 1: CBP were all funded, and then we have to go
27:13
Speaker 1: back and get funding for ICE and CBP, which is
27:16
Speaker 1: very confusing. So if Johnson dragged his feet, because what
27:19
Speaker 1: John Thune did at three o'clock in the morning before
27:21
Speaker 1: Easter was lame. He didn't do everything that was asked
27:25
Speaker 1: by the House and the House already passed it, So
27:27
Speaker 1: why did Mike Johnson wait weeks and weeks and weeks
27:29
Speaker 1: if he was going to eventually just capitulate.
27:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. I don't think we have
27:34
Speaker 4: a straight answer there, to be fair, I think it
27:36
Speaker 4: was a lot of behind the scenes negotiations, probably with
27:38
Speaker 4: the White House negotiations, even with Fune in the Senate
27:41
Speaker 4: on that. I think reconciliation came later on with trying
27:45
Speaker 4: to find ice and CVP due to the Democrat halt
27:48
Speaker 4: both in the Senate and the House there. But I
27:50
Speaker 4: think this is the part of Congress said nobody really
27:53
Speaker 4: loves all these behind the scenes, late night negotiations. As
27:56
Speaker 4: a reporter get aggravated, and I'm sure the American peoplevated
28:00
Speaker 4: not being able to see transparently what goes down in
28:03
Speaker 4: those kind of like closed door deals.
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Speaker 1: I would say it's Ashley Brashfield. Go and follow her
28:08
Speaker 1: right now Dailycoller dot Com. Of course she's with the
28:09
Speaker 1: Daily Caller. I got to talk to you about TPS.
28:12
Speaker 1: The T stands for temporary. Obviously, having temporary protected status
28:16
Speaker 1: means eventually you won't be protected anymore. It'll be over
28:19
Speaker 1: and you'll either be adjudicated and you get asylum or
28:21
Speaker 1: you're going to go back home. Trying to end that
28:24
Speaker 1: has been very, very difficult. Now it looks as though
28:27
Speaker 1: it is going to end and it is constitutional. Just
28:29
Speaker 1: get us up to data on where we are with that.
28:31
Speaker 1: Has the Supreme Court looked at it? Yet they seem
28:33
Speaker 1: like they were leaning towards saying he could do he
28:35
Speaker 1: could end TPS. Is that a decided deal? Why did
28:39
Speaker 1: we call the TPS if people have been here for
28:40
Speaker 1: sixteen years since the earthquake in Haiti and not even
28:44
Speaker 1: to count those who are under the bridge in Del Rio,
28:46
Speaker 1: Where are we on that?
28:47
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I think the conversation really sparked up on
28:50
Speaker 4: this was actually within Congress, and we saw a group
28:52
Speaker 4: of Republicans last year in twenty twenty five resubmit a
28:55
Speaker 4: bill called the Dignity Dot Act if you remember Dignity Act,
28:59
Speaker 4: and that lay promises amnesty for illegals across the United States.
29:02
Speaker 4: I was introduced by Republican Maria Salzar. It's also gained
29:05
Speaker 4: support from co sponsors like Mike Lawler. The reason that
29:08
Speaker 4: was resparked is because Mike Lawler went on an interview
29:10
Speaker 4: with Brian kill Me just about two weeks ago at
29:12
Speaker 4: this point, and it went viral basically on x and
29:16
Speaker 4: so the conversation while all the you know, funding towards
29:19
Speaker 4: DHS and a lot of the agencies under that, that
29:23
Speaker 4: sparked criticism across the board, especially from grassroots in the base.
29:27
Speaker 4: And so now we have a oral argument before the
29:30
Speaker 4: Supreme Court on the actual TPS for Haitians specifically, and
29:34
Speaker 4: it was partnered with a other case that was for
29:36
Speaker 4: Syrian TPS refugees as well. I think that it got
29:40
Speaker 4: a lot of pushback, obviously from the fact that what
29:43
Speaker 4: happened in Minnesota. We've seen kind of DHS step back
29:46
Speaker 4: and you know, have to have a pr reevaluation on
29:49
Speaker 4: how they're going about the mass deportation question. But I
29:52
Speaker 4: think a lot in the base find it very unacceptable
29:55
Speaker 4: by the fact that mass amnesty or temporary protected status
29:58
Speaker 4: for illegal immigrants, especially coming off something that happened in
30:01
Speaker 4: Fort Myers, Florida, where a Haitian migrants actually hit a
30:06
Speaker 4: woman with a hammer at a Cassie, killing her. So you
30:09
Speaker 4: can it's a media firestorm essentially, but you can also
30:12
Speaker 4: you talk about temporary being that first word in TPS.
30:16
Speaker 4: They've been re upped, I believe throughout the Obama administration
30:18
Speaker 4: is when it started at the beginning closer to twenty ten,
30:22
Speaker 4: So temporary apparently is going on sixteen years now. So
30:26
Speaker 4: I think a lot in the base have a good
30:29
Speaker 4: argument as to why they would like to see that end,
30:31
Speaker 4: especially with that being a big promise from the Trump administration.
30:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want them adjudicated and I want them gone
30:36
Speaker 1: if they don't have an actual asylum claim. I had
30:38
Speaker 1: Rich mccormickon from Georgia, and Rich and I are friends,
30:42
Speaker 1: but I said, rich, dude. I even tweeted him that night,
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Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing? The TEA does stand
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Speaker 1: for temporary? Come on the show, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 1: And his story was, and as you probably know, he's
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Speaker 1: a doctor. As a doctor, he's like, I've seen the
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Speaker 1: way that that holy people have been treated there. I've
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Speaker 1: seen the way that children are treated there. I've seen
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Speaker 1: the war that's coming upon Christians who were there and
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Speaker 1: those who came here during the earthquake time, which was
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Speaker 1: twenty ten. I think that they should stay. And he
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Speaker 1: made his case, and I don't necessarily agree with him,
31:08
Speaker 1: but he also said those who the fifteen thousand under
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Speaker 1: the bridge in Del Rio shouldn't stay. Biden had no
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Speaker 1: reason to let them in. They didn't come from Haiti.
31:16
Speaker 1: They came from Brazil. They were living in Brazil and
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Speaker 1: they had asylum there, they had their lives there, and
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Speaker 1: somebody told them go under a bridge in Texas? Are
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Speaker 1: you finding that there are two edges to this? One
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Speaker 1: side you've got people saying they've been here for twenty years,
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Speaker 1: what are we doing? And the other side says they
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Speaker 1: just came here because Biden one of them here. What
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Speaker 1: are we doing? Are you seeing that there are two
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Speaker 1: sides to it?
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Speaker 4: I do, and I can tell you exactly why. A
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Speaker 4: lot of those Haitian migrants they actually bring from places
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Speaker 4: you know, for nurses, actually in a lot of these districts.
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Speaker 4: So for instance, Mike Lawler up in New York. Another
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Speaker 4: individuals Fitzpatrick and the representative out of Pennsylvania. His district
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Speaker 4: they argue, has a lot of Haitian migrants living in it.
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Speaker 4: So they argue constituency in that instance, which tends to
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Speaker 4: be the case. But I mean, I don't think Americans
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Speaker 4: looking favorably about keeping them over. You know, a sixteen
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Speaker 4: year period of time before looking at it is not
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Speaker 4: what people want to see. And I will say go
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Speaker 4: back to the oral arguments. I listened to them yesterday
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Speaker 4: before the Supreme Court and a lot of the argument
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Speaker 4: was that Congress has the ability and a statute to
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Speaker 4: look over to make sure that they basically have oversight
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Speaker 4: by for DHS under the Secretary for this and so
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Speaker 4: that was part of the arguments that I thought was
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Speaker 4: very interesting yesterday. I think it would be, you know,
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Speaker 4: a big move by the Supreme Court to block the
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Speaker 4: aspect of getting these migrants out and the idea that
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Speaker 4: they have sixty days after temporary protected status ends to
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Speaker 4: lead the country and if they're here illegally still that's
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Speaker 4: going to be a problem and another discussion. So there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of aspects to this case. I think for
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Speaker 4: a lot of the Republican you know representatives, I spoke
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Speaker 4: to them at the Republican Study Committee of Media Row
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Speaker 4: just a week and a half ago, and many of them,
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Speaker 4: especially in the House Freedom Caucus, were very vocal about
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Speaker 4: ending this. And another being Temp Burchett who was very vocal.
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Speaker 1: It is actually Brassfield, she's a great reporter for the
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Speaker 1: Daily Call. Go to dailyclar dot com and go follow
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Speaker 1: her on all social media as well. Last time is
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Speaker 1: b R S F I E L D. Let's finish
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Speaker 1: with FISA. The attacks of nine to eleven happened way
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Speaker 1: before you were born. But it was where people from
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Speaker 1: across the ocean came over here, stay overstayed their visas,
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Speaker 1: and then jumped on airplanes and started blowing buildings up.
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Speaker 1: Because of that, the American people said yes to the
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Speaker 1: Patriot Act. The Patriot Act is actually a restriction of
33:23
Speaker 1: our constitutional rights. Well, we all said, absolutely, restrict my
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Speaker 1: rights and keep us safe. It was supposed to sunset.
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Speaker 1: Then they reupped it sunset again. Theyre reupted again. And
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Speaker 1: the PIASA Court was was a major player in this.
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Speaker 1: The the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance whatever, whatever the A is,
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Speaker 1: I forget what it is, but but but that was
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Speaker 1: that was built to keep us safe from bad guys
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Speaker 1: who were foreigners, who was supposed to actually at the
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Speaker 1: same time protect us on this side if we happen
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Speaker 1: to be part of the conversation. But that didn't really
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Speaker 1: work out. FISA is supposed to end again. The Patriot
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Speaker 1: Act should not be Still the Patriot Act. In my opinion,
33:57
Speaker 1: where are we with FISA. Is it a continuing is
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Speaker 1: it going to be a revamped what's the story with
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Speaker 1: the with the flights A court.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they've done a ten day extension that expired
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Speaker 4: I believe yesterday, if on Wednesday exactly, but they have
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Speaker 4: a forty five day extension that they've done. From a
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Speaker 4: lot of the representatives I've talked to, the biggest issue
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Speaker 4: here is section seven oh two, which is talking about
34:17
Speaker 4: more of the domestic surveillance side of things, and that
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Speaker 4: they don't have much issue when it comes to the
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Speaker 4: intelligence agencies like the NSA, like the CIA looking at
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Speaker 4: foreign adversaries, I would say, you know, tapping into their
34:29
Speaker 4: phone calls. But it becomes an issue with the abuses
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Speaker 4: that have been done under our own government towards our
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Speaker 4: own citizens and domestically, and you know, they bring up
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Speaker 4: the Fourth Amendment in the situation you have to play
34:39
Speaker 4: this from people like Thomas Matthew, you have a huge issue.
34:41
Speaker 4: Chip roy specifically have been big advocates of this, as
34:44
Speaker 4: well as another aspect that's the cryptocurrency under the Central Bank,
34:49
Speaker 4: so which is a huge aspect here, and another aspect
34:53
Speaker 4: is the warrant requirement to be able to you know,
34:55
Speaker 4: you have to have a warrant in order to surveil
34:57
Speaker 4: a call of some sort for Americans, which there is
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Speaker 4: some you know back and forth between that, what if
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Speaker 4: an American citizen is on a call with a foreign citizen.
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Speaker 4: There's the arguments there on that. But I think the
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Speaker 4: biggest issue is that the abuses under the FBI is
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Speaker 4: what I heard from a lot of representatives that they
35:13
Speaker 4: had an issue with specifically, and that was across the board.
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Speaker 4: And so there's been a lot of you know, fight
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Speaker 4: back and forth between keeping the FISA Act alive for
35:22
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six do the fact that we have a
35:24
Speaker 4: war going on the idea of national security, but they
35:27
Speaker 4: don't want to continue to see you know, American citizens'
35:29
Speaker 4: rights be undermind is a lot what many of the
35:32
Speaker 4: concerns are, and I don't really know what the battle
35:35
Speaker 4: is from top leadership in the House on that. Of course,
35:38
Speaker 4: you're going to have take it to the Senate. They'll
35:39
Speaker 4: probably rip it apart and do a new version. Knowing
35:42
Speaker 4: how they know Act I would say, but for some reason,
35:45
Speaker 4: a lot of these chambers, especially the Senate, really love FISA,
35:48
Speaker 4: they'll get it past immediately whatever they need to do,
35:51
Speaker 4: more so than something like the Save of America Act
35:53
Speaker 4: is what I've noticed as well, and they've tried to
35:55
Speaker 4: attach that to FISA. That's been a whole conversation that
35:58
Speaker 4: we could go into, but it's it's been a whirlwind.
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Speaker 4: But they have forty five more days to discuss this.
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Speaker 1: And of course it is a foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
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Speaker 1: I forgot the letter A. So when it comes to this,
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Speaker 1: the biggest case that I could think of where somebody
36:11
Speaker 1: was unmasked and in America was unmasked is is General Flynn.
36:14
Speaker 1: When General Michael Flynn was the NSA for about a
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Speaker 1: day and a half, five people from the Obama administration
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Speaker 1: almost immediately unmasked him as somebody who was contacting people overseas,
36:24
Speaker 1: and he was actually contacting people in Russia in other
36:26
Speaker 1: places that were his equal in those in those different governments,
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Speaker 1: but they unmasked him, and that really made America go, wait, wait,
36:33
Speaker 1: wait a second. I thought we weren't supposed to be
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Speaker 1: giving any names and unduly surveilling American citizens for political gain,
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Speaker 1: which is exactly what they did. But sadly it sounds
36:43
Speaker 1: like you're saying they're going to extend it because the
36:44
Speaker 1: government likes to have that power on us.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the people like Thomas Matthew who you know, went
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Speaker 4: on the floor. It was passed through unanimous consent, so
36:52
Speaker 4: they didn't take a vote. It was a voice vote,
36:54
Speaker 4: so he's never recorded last night, and there's a lot
36:56
Speaker 4: of people up in arms about that aspect alone. But
36:59
Speaker 4: also I think the vocal people that wanted a clean
37:01
Speaker 4: FISA extension was President Trump, which came as a surprise
37:04
Speaker 4: to a lot of people, and I think the question was, oh,
37:07
Speaker 4: wasn't this what was used to spy on the president
37:09
Speaker 4: as well? Especially section seven O two. So I think
37:12
Speaker 4: that there was a lot of confusion on the Republican
37:14
Speaker 4: and GOP side from when the President made that statement specifically,
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Speaker 4: and I don't know where he stands. It seems like
37:20
Speaker 4: he wants the clean extension to FIZA to not expire.
37:23
Speaker 4: So that is where you're seeing this forty five days
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Speaker 4: again to reevaluate, take the time and maybe get those
37:28
Speaker 4: warrants in place that a lot of the House Freedom
37:30
Speaker 4: Caucus and strong advocates for that we'll be able to
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Speaker 4: get it.
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Speaker 1: Well, we covered a lot. Actually, I appreciate you coming
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Speaker 1: on today. Do we a favor, Let's do this more often.
37:37
Speaker 1: It's actually Brassfield. Go and follow her everywhere. Go to
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Speaker 1: Dailycoller dot com. She's a great reporter over there taking
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Speaker 1: everything she does. And I really appreciate you. Thank you.