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Networking Unleashed: S1E76 An Interview with Dr Gary Wohlman and Michael A Forman, Public Speaker · Networking Unleashed: Building Profitable Connections

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  Welcome back to Networking Unleashed, Building
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  Profitable Connections. I'm your host, Michael
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  Foreman, and today's episode is all about stepping
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  out of the background and into the spotlight
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  of your business and your life. My guest is a
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  powerhouse in helping entrepreneurs break free
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  from invisible patterns that keep them playing
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  small. He teaches how to get into the zone that
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  focus fearless. feel this energy where clarity
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  flows, confidence rises, and opportunities multiply.
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  So here's what makes his perspective so valuable.
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  He doesn't just talk about mindset. He shows
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  how it directly fuels profitable networking.
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  Because you're fully present, fully assigned,
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  and fully you, the right people can't imagine,
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  I'm sorry, the right people can't help. but be
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  drawn to your energy. So if you've been holding
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  back, waiting to be noticed, or playing it safe
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  in the rooms you enter, this is your moment.
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  Let's talk about what really means to your own
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  story, activate your zone, and build bold, authentic
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  connections that move your business forward.
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  I hope I put all that correctly. I'm sorry if
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  I didn't. Okay. So I would like to introduce
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  today, Dr. Gary Wollman, PhD. He has quite an
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  extensive background, which I'm going to let
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  him do himself. Gary, welcome to the podcast.
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  Sounds like you're inviting me to be up at bat,
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  up on stage. That's great. That's beautiful.
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  Welcome, everyone who's listening or watching
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  or both or any combination. I have, yes, a varied,
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  adventurous background, born where you also grew
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  up in New York. And I've been moving west my
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  whole life. California, Hawaii, New Zealand,
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  Australia. Bali, Thailand, and now I'm living
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  on the east coast of Australia. I live in a permaculture
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  community, and I have a very successful and very
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  unusual, you can see already, way of, if I put
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  it in one word, it would be multi -sensorize.
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  Multisensorizing everything has been the calling
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  card for me to have fantastic networking opportunities.
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  I'll share a few with you, live moments, as well
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  as a... the presentation doctor and speaker's
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  mentor, which I am, coaching, helping people
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  who have a message to share their voice and wisdom
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  with the world in a somatic way. My background
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  at Horace Mann Private School, actually in New
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  York City. I graduated there cum laude, and along
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  with honors, there's one student in each class
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  that's given an award for the best combination
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  of academics and athletics. champion springboard
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  diver and track star and gymnast. So I got that
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  award as I graduated. And you know what? That
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  same focus throughout my life, the marrying of
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  the body and the mind has been the cornerstone
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  of my success. And it's taken me first When I
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  didn't get into medical school after going to
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  Johns Hopkins to move to San Francisco and discover
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  all kinds of body therapies, psychodrama, all
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  kinds of gestalt, bioengineering, I got into
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  deep personal development, developed my own system,
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  which... is now called the wolman method for
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  the whole person which was also government endorsed
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  here in australia after i moved here forty years
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  after developing a method of stretching the muscles
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  in the body while speaking in rhyme and on the
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  exhalations just like dr seuss that propel people
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  on this instant journey of their self -talk and
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  immediately shifted their relationship with their
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  body, their communication. Yes, we'll be talking
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  about that. Their relationships as well as their
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  creativity and their contribution. So I've developed
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  tools over, I'm now 73, at least 60 years, I'm
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  sure longer, that are all about freeing the physical,
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  emotional, and creative stored energy in a person's
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  body. My networking and communication is based
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  on body wisdom. And I'll share some specific
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  examples with you over the years, some great
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  stories, just a few words from each time one
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  of these happen that is so easy to pass on. And
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  what a thrill to you who are listening and watching
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  today. You'd like to know any more about my background?
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  That's a short version right there. Okay, let's
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  move into the questions and we'll get into it
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  a little bit more. You talk about getting...
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  into the zone to grow your business. How does
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  being in the state that, how does being in that
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  state impact the way that we network and connect
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  with others? I'll give you a good example from
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  something that just happened. in the last two
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  hours. It's getting cold here in Australia. And
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  even though I went swimming at the dam today,
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  which I do on our 800 acres of wild forest here,
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  I have a wood -fired sauna. And I took a wood
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  -fired sauna tonight by myself and got into the
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  zone. I was meditating. I was chanting. I was
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  singing. I was praying. I was breathing. I was
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  stoking the fire the whole time. And I just came
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  out about an hour ago. My fingers are still a
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  little cool. Yet I tell you, by nurturing, empowering,
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  and inspiring, myself first throughout the day
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  this is the secret sauce to doing what i'm doing
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  with you i'm reaching who knows how many it doesn't
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  matter people around the world from being in
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  the zone from being in the zone It's like being
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  on the dance floor with someone, being on the
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  dance floor with yourself, and every move is
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  in synchrony with yourself, your intentions,
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  your intonations, and whoever you're connecting
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  with. So I practice nurturing, empowering, and
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  inspiring myself with every thought, word, and
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  action. And that metaphysical practice, that
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  inner practice, fills my day. And you can see,
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  I'm lit up, and it's a result. I'll give you
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  another example. Just before this session, after
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  coming out of the sauna, I was rehearsing some
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  affirmations. And I teach this. But this is not
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  affirmations by themselves. It's boring. It's
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  dull, boring, verbal apparitions of affirmations.
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  It's just words or on paper. So what I do is
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  I record a whole script. Just the key affirmations.
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  I put it on a Word document in my computer in
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  multicolored and very attractive graphics that
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  match the tonality of those affirmations. I have
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  a candle going. This little light in the background
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  here is a multisensory experience. So I'm programming
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  the affirmations into my psyche before I speak
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  with you. And that is how... With all those practices
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  I just shared with you, I get into the zone.
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  I can see you looking for your next question,
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  so I'll pause. That's all right. Listen, I'm
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  always looking around for the questions. I am
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  always intently listening to what you have to
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  say because it is so very interesting. Thank
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  you. Many entrepreneurs hold back without realizing
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  it. What patterns do you see most often and how
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  do they sabotage meaningful networking? I can
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  own that rather than point the finger. I've been
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  there. I've been there. I've overdone that. I
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  grew up with a very strong parents and helped
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  me be very successful as I turned out to be.
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  And at the same time, I know my mom had great
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  expectations of me. I did become a super achiever,
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  but I had a great sense of loathing inside that
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  we all do. A self -talk that told myself. I'm
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  not enough. It was my core wound. It wasn't true,
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  but I couldn't do enough A pluses to please her.
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  And so I developed a belief that I'm not enough,
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  I'm not good enough. Turning around the self
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  -talk is absolutely essential to be able to free
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  one's ability to be all that they can be in this
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  life. When I work with people, I see myself as
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  an archaeologist of the soul. There's the physical
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  stored tension on the surface layer. The physical
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  tension has to be released, number one. Number
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  two, the emotional self -talk, I'm not good enough,
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  I'm afraid of this, whatever it could be, make
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  up your own version, we all have our own flavor,
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  then is released at the second level, the emotional
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  holding stored energy patterns. And only then,
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  physical, emotional, can the creative layers
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  of full self -talk self -expression, being absolutely
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  magnificent in one's achievements, in one's business,
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  and in relationships emerge. But it has to take
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  place by first removing, as Michelangelo said,
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  I saw the angel already in that marble, and I
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  chiseled everything else away, so what was left
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  was the angel. So this is the secret. Find out,
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  identify where you're wounded. We're all wounded.
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  Until you get to that layer, it's just all cotton
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  candy and bubble gum and cotton floss and champagne,
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  and it's not true. Once you can come to an event
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  where you felt held back and see the decision
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  you made around it, one thing I recommend you
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  do, an exercise I've developed, but I often do
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  this online with people, take that pain, that
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  false persona, that belief that you're not enough,
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  and do something like this. This is what I do.
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  I send this program, this pattern, this pain,
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  what I've taken in from my ancestors and others
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  that I felt responsible for, and I send it back
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  to the source with that strength, that full body
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  wisdom, verbal, vocal, visual, simultaneously.
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  I send it back. to where it came. And then the
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  self -talk. My new self -talk is I am creative.
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  I am playful. I am transformational. I teach
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  this. But we have to come to identify the negative,
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  turn it through a releasing process, whatever
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  works for you, into my new mission statement,
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  my new self -talk is, and then multi -sensorize
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  it. And then it becomes you very quickly. Good.
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  Very good. I'm listening to this and I can't
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  wait to listen to this podcast after we're all
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  done because I want to really go over everything
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  that you had just said. But moving on, you help
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  people step into the center stage of their life.
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  How can networking serve as a stage, not just
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  a strategy? That's a well -worded question. Well,
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  I'm now reviewing in my psyche all the different
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  experiences that I have had in networking in
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  my life. And there's both the physical networking
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  events online and in the physical that occur
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  when your body is somewhere and you're interacting
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  with humans. There's also the non -networking
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  events where you feel a resonance. with someone
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  in the arena, in the audience, whether or not
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  you're on stage or an event. I keep thinking
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  about this particular moment, so I'm going to
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  share it. The example, I was at, I believe it
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  was a Werner Erhard, Esther, Landmark Forum,
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  an event that had hundreds of thousands of people
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  in this one assembly, in this one audience auditorium.
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  And I kept seeing a woman over there yeah like
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  thirty forty people away every time i turned
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  she seemed to turn every time i looked at her
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  i don't know what it was that was magnetizing
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  me to her presence her energy her vibration her
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  signature her clothes whatever it was And I do
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  this. I've got married and things like this from
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  following my intuition. So I'm going to tell
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  you how I follow my intuition in this instance.
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  So I walk up to this person and I told her. But
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  to be honest with you, I saw you from across
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  the room. I don't know who you are or what we
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  have to speak about, but I felt drawn to you.
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  And as a matter of fact, then I bring in the
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  physical. Every time I look towards you, you
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  seem to turn towards me. Now, I'm either making
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  that up or let's find out. My name is, I'm a
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  presentation coach, body therapist, and she wound
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  up being one of my best clients. She was a lawyer
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  and for three or four, five, six. 10 months.
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  She was a fantastic client of mine. And it was
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  a great experience. Trusting intuition and following
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  through reaps great rewards. And that's one of
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  my networking experiences. The principle is feel
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  the energy. Feel where you're drawn. Notice if
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  you're uplifted by that experience of who you're
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  looking at. Forget the agenda. Forget the lines.
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  Forget what to say. Be honest. I'll give you
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  another example, okay? This is not networking.
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  This is how I met one of the wives that I was
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  married to. I'm now very happy with myself. All
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  oneness. All oneness. New relationship with that.
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  So I was driving my bicycle, my pushbike, here
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  in Australia. I was north of Brisbane, living
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  there at the time. I was riding my bicycle on
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  this park near the ocean. And a woman smiles
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  at me. She has two dogs. She's walking two dogs.
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  She gives me this huge smile. I keep thinking
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  about it. I'm riding my bicycle. It's maybe 30,
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  40 seconds now. Gary, turn around. You don't
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  know what you might have missed. Seize the moment.
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  Follow your intuition and tell the truth. So
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  I went back. I stopped in front of her and I
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  said, excuse me, you gave me the most beautiful
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  smile. I was being honest back there. And it
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  just really touched me. I don't know who you
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  are, yet I want to meet you. We were married
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  16 weeks later. So following your intuition is
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  a physical experience where the energy gets uplifted
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  when you have a particular thought, whether it's
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  in a networking meeting or out in a park or in
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  a large audience. You have another question.
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  I can feel it. Well, what I'm gathering is you
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  have to be your authentic self. Authenticity
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  speaks volumes. it does i used to when i was
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  a teenager and i was growing up in white plains
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  new york i went to a private high school that
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  was all boys and i felt awkward with girls not
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  even though i I wound up having many relationships
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  and four marriages, etc. But that's another story.
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  So I remember, and I haven't thought about this
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  in probably 40, 50, 60 years, that when I was
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  on the phone, I wrote down jokes to girls that
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  I was into. And I read the jokes on the phone.
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  Oh, my God. It's been a long ways. Now I trust.
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  Leap. And the net will appear. I trust the unknown.
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  I like the unknown. There's a certain feeling
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  of security that people, false security, have
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  when they want to know what to say before they
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  say it. When I do my presentation coaching with
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  people, I want to get the structure first before
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  presenting it. No, just tell me about it. The
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  structure will form itself. Chagall, one of my
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  great mentors, beautiful artist, beautiful, playful,
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  joyful, biblical, he had tremendous wisdom in
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  his paintings. Someone asked him once, how do
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  you do that? How do you make these amazing shapes
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  that are so accurate? And he said this, I don't
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  focus on the shapes. I focus on the feelings,
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  the colors, and the colors become the shapes,
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  and the shapes become... The forms and the forms
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  become what you're seeing in the imagery. So
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  starting with the feeling and seeing what sound,
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  movement, word, wisdom comes from that. This
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  is my way through life. It's very different.
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  I recognize that. That's all right. Let me go
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  on. So what's the difference between showing
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  up in a room and truly being present? And how
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  can that shift transform a business conversation?
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  Okay. I need to know your... making that as a
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  distinction? Because to me, that could be the
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  same thing. So please explain that in more detail
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  so I can make a distinction. Okay. So usually
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  when somebody shows up in a room, they're really
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  not present because you have to be confident,
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  you have to know where you are, you have to know
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  what you're doing, and you have to be present
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  in a room. And just as another factor I'm going
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  to bring into this was I go when I do a networking
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  event or something else, I go in with a servant's
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  heart. OK, I go in and I see what can I do for
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  this person instead of saying, oh, look, I have
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  this to sell that to sell. I can do this for
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  you. Listen, what can I do to make you more successful?
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  Okay, I got it. Okay, that answers it. That's
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  it. That answers the question. And now I'll answer
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  my own version of you asking me that question.
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  The difference between showing up and being fully
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  present. Now I understand the question. Yeah.
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  The difference between showing up, which to me,
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  in the way you describe it, is not showing up
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  as being present, but showing up. With all of
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  the stress, do I have my shirt buttoned and is
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  my hair looking good, performing, so to speak,
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  or what do I want to get out of this? What can
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  I give to this? So here's how I do this. This
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  is how I address it. One, I do what I've already
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  told you I do, which is I feel where my body,
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  energy, eye contact is drawn and I move towards
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  that no matter what it is. However, if I have
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  the point of view or the thought inside of how
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  can I be of service, just like what you said,
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  to the situation, I don't think so much as about
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  the person as what does this moment need? Because
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  the moment needs something, but that person,
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  their emergency, they fell down, their wife is
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  this, or I broke my... It's colored by that,
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  what just happened before. So when I look at
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  it, I'm not just looking at the person, I'm looking
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  at all that the moment is calling for to be in
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  service. I recall recently someone who I highly
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  respect gave me, gave on his podcast, on his
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  international show, a description of why are
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  we here on this earth. And he gave this beautiful
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  one -sentence description. He said, we are here
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  to be in service. to the creator in service to
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  creation. That's it. And I go by that. And that
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  serves me really well when I'm in a networking
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  meeting or a session. I'll tell you something
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  that works for me online. This is a bit different,
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  but it's a strategy. It's not always following
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  my feelings. I have a strategy that works as
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  well. And this is what I do. So let's say we're
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  on an online networking session. Okay, and people
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  are talking to each other in the chat and people
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  are introducing each other for 30 seconds to
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  a minute and sometimes a bit longer depending
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  on how small the group is. This is what I do
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  with almost everyone. I find where the yes is.
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  I find where I feel a sincere deep connection
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  on some level with this person. I don't know
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  what it's going to be later and I write them
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  and I say these exact words. remembering what
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  I put in the chat. Really loved your share, their
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  name, particularly what you said about and whatever
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  it was that connected me with them. I'd love
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  to have a video chat and explore mutual support.
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  Here's my website. As the presentation doctor
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  and speaker's mentor, I'd love to assist you,
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  bring your message, your voice, and your wisdom
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  out to the world. Here's a link. to have a complimentary
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  video chat. Let's see what we can do for each
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  other. So that's what I do in networking meetings.
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  Exactly what I just did is what I do. And a lot
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  of people like that. And they're genuine connections.
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  They're not false. Because I found out what it
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  is that really touched me. Sometimes I don't
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  even remember. And I say, I love what you shared.
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  Let's have a video chat. So being honest here,
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  it's not me always being so astute. Sometimes
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  I forget, but I do honor that I want to make
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  connection. And that helps tremendously in networking
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  online. Got some more questions for me? Sure.
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  How can someone create an environment internally
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  and externally that keeps them in the zone when
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  networking or building relationships? described
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  that already. I do it through physical practices.
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  I live near a waterfall and a dam. I do yoga.
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  I do stretching. Lately, just before this call
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  today, I did something that I absolutely love.
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  I told you I love to multi -sensorize affirmations
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  when I'm working with people. So I was sitting
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  here with the candle, with the affirmations in
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  multiple colors and fonts. I was here with the
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  video from voice memos on my iPhone that I was
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  listening to while reading the words. And I say
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  the words both once out loud and then I sing
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  them the second time. So they multi -sensorize
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  in my psyche and they're immediately embedded
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  in my cellular memory. I do this as a practice
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  to get myself into zone. It's funny. Above my
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  head... Right here. You can't see it because
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  I'm not going to turn. Maybe I can. If I go to
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  the ceiling, look at those words. Can you see
• 23:56
  that? Can you read it? I can't read that. It
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  says, get into the zone. It's above my head.
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  It's always above my head. So to me, it's a moment
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  -to -moment practice. Joyful discipline. Okay,
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  good. We're getting to the end. But a lot of
• 24:14
  people hide behind their brand or their pitch.
• 24:17
  What's the first step towards showing up as your
• 24:21
  full self in a business relationship? Remove
• 24:29
  the script. Go through the skid. Be willing to
• 24:33
  explore the unknown. Watch the mystery. And you
• 24:37
  look at it this way. boats are not meant to be
• 24:40
  stuck in the harbor they're meant to be out into
• 24:43
  the open sea or at least charting a course somewhere
• 24:46
  from one place to another so if you hold on to
• 24:50
  what's familiar you're just going to have dull
• 24:53
  monotonous plain vanilla ordinary responses However,
• 24:58
  if you challenge yourself to go, I trust being
• 25:01
  in the unknown. I trust whatever shows up in
• 25:04
  my interaction with this other human, that I
• 25:07
  can find the yes. I can find what delights me,
• 25:10
  inspires me, nurtures me, empowers me. And there
• 25:13
  is a solid connection between one human and another.
• 25:16
  From that, it may not go anywhere. Yet I'll tell
• 25:19
  you, it's more likely to than focusing on a script.
• 25:23
  If you have a script or something that you say
• 25:25
  or brand, it can be, even when I teach people
• 25:29
  about public speaking, the PowerPoint can be
• 25:33
  a hiding place because you're reading it rather
• 25:36
  than connecting with the human in front of you.
• 25:39
  Also, using gestures to make pictures of what
• 25:43
  you're saying will take you out of your being
• 25:45
  a talking head so you're not stuck in your brand
• 25:48
  or who you think you have to identify with because
• 25:52
  you think that's what people want. They want
• 25:54
  your humanity, your tenderness, your sharing,
• 25:57
  your caring as strength, your vulnerability as
• 26:01
  strength. And this is what we're here all to
• 26:03
  learn and practice. Outstanding. Outstanding.
• 26:07
  Okay, let's bring this podcast full circle. And
• 26:11
  looking ahead, what's one powerful mindset or
• 26:16
  practice you believe every entrepreneur should
• 26:20
  adopt to create more meaningful, profitable connections?
• 26:27
  The first word that came in my mind when my energy
• 26:30
  lifted up was the following affirmation. To say
• 26:34
  this to yourself. to write it down, to sing it,
• 26:37
  to dance it, to paint it. Simple message. It's
• 26:42
  an affirmation. And the words are... It's safe
• 26:51
  and easy for me to share my voice message and
• 26:58
  wisdom with you. And a shorter version is probably
• 27:01
  even better. I love sharing my... voice message
• 27:05
  and wisdom with you. And an ending is often called
• 27:09
  for. I love sharing my message and wisdom with
• 27:14
  you and being fully received. So we have a lovely
• 27:17
  connection wherever it goes. So any variation
• 27:19
  of that, it's basically a short, shortest, simplest,
• 27:23
  strongest, specific statement. I call that the
• 27:25
  5S principle affirmation that you can speak,
• 27:29
  write down, say it, sing it. And in a variety
• 27:34
  of multisensory ways, watch the magic, how quickly
• 27:37
  that will be manifest. So that's my greatest
• 27:40
  message to you is create an affirmation that
• 27:43
  you don't just write, that you live it every
• 27:45
  single moment, this moment, all the time in the
• 27:49
  world. Gary, that's great. Wonderful advice,
• 27:54
  things to live by, things to know. It's just
• 27:57
  everything you're saying, just I can resonate.
• 28:01
  with. So I want to thank you on every level.
• 28:04
  But let's say if somebody wanted to get hold
• 28:08
  of you, whether I know you're in Australia, I
• 28:10
  know you're on a mountain, but if they want to
• 28:13
  get hold of you, what's the best way for somebody
• 28:16
  to get hold of you? Sure. And I'll give you some
• 28:19
  links that you can put in the notes for this
• 28:21
  too. I'll send that to you afterwards. But for
• 28:23
  now, the very easy thing for you to remember,
• 28:26
  you who are listening, you who are watching,
• 28:28
  you who have a pen nearby, yes, get a pen out.
• 28:30
  That's right. Yeah. So in that drawer there,
• 28:32
  where you put it last, that's it. Okay. So here
• 28:37
  it is. Pause. You can reach me easiest. By putting
• 28:47
  in the link, or writing it down now so you can
• 28:49
  remember it, mypresentationdoctor .com, spelled
• 28:55
  out, mypresentationdoctor .com. That has everything.
• 29:01
  It has links, videos, keynote presentations,
• 29:05
  inspirational videos, blogs, all kinds of ways
• 29:10
  that we can connect. And there's a way you can
• 29:12
  contact me. Happy to give you a 20 -minute complimentary
• 29:16
  video chat to see how I can be of any support.
• 29:20
  So you, build your business, effective, efficient
• 29:24
  networking, and fulfill your life purpose. That's
• 29:27
  what I'm here for. Larry, thank you so much for
• 29:30
  coming on the podcast. I hope my listeners got
• 29:33
  everything that you wanted out of it. And if
• 29:37
  not, they can always re -listen to it. But thank
• 29:39
  you again for coming on the podcast. A pleasure.
• 29:42
  True pleasure there, Michael. Thank you. I'm
• 29:45
  really honored to be having you ask me those
• 29:47
  questions, to have you be as open as you are
• 29:50
  to me, multi -sensorize a topic that could be
• 29:53
  just a talking head download. So I'm grateful
• 29:56
  for the opportunity to make a difference. Well,
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• 31:25
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• 31:28
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