Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #125: Ex and the City (SATC S2 Ep. 18)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stephan
- 0:07Speaker 1: Never Told You production of iHeartRadio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: And we are back with the highly anticipated episode that
- 0:23Speaker 2: we have been talking about how long, how long?
- 0:26Speaker 3: Where we watch Sex and the City.
- 0:28Speaker 2: As you know, we do this as our happy hour
- 0:31Speaker 2: and this time we have a special. Guess I'm I'm
- 0:35Speaker 2: not gonna introduce you yet because I want I'm gonna
- 0:37Speaker 2: make everybody wait just for a second, because go ahead
- 0:40Speaker 2: and put this in here. This is a happy hour.
- 0:42Speaker 2: So if you are consuming anything or whatever you're doing,
- 0:46Speaker 2: please be responsible as a heads up. Also, if we're
- 0:49Speaker 2: talking about a product, we are not currently being sponsored
- 0:53Speaker 2: by that product. Things can change. We know things can change.
- 0:56Speaker 2: We are sponsored by media things, but at this point
- 0:58Speaker 2: we're not talking about them, right.
- 1:01Speaker 4: But yes, since.
- 1:04Speaker 2: We have to live, that's what we do. But yees,
- 1:07Speaker 2: So we finally have a participation episode with one of
- 1:13Speaker 2: our fans. Hi.
- 1:17Speaker 5: I'm so excited to be here.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Yes, we're so excited to have you.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Can you introduce yourself to our listeners?
- 1:23Speaker 5: Yeah, I love to Hi. I'm Lou.
- 1:25Speaker 6: I'm super excited to be here. I got the call
- 1:28Speaker 6: out from Annie and Samantha. I think a year ago
- 1:31Speaker 6: around the Sex and the City episode, and I haven't
- 1:34Speaker 6: seen Sex and the City since college. It's been like
- 1:38Speaker 6: over fifteen years for me since I've seen it. And
- 1:42Speaker 6: I took a BuzzFeed quiz by the producer and I
- 1:47Speaker 6: got Charlotte.
- 1:48Speaker 5: And I was like, oh.
- 1:50Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to think has anybody gotten Charlotte before?
- 1:56Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think a lot of us
- 1:58Speaker 1: thought we were going to get Charlotte.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Yeah, you may actually be our first genuine Charlotte. Congratulations.
- 2:04Speaker 2: You just like made history on our show.
- 2:09Speaker 6: I felt like it was because I selected what TV
- 2:12Speaker 6: show would you binge? And I picked the Crown and
- 2:15Speaker 6: I was like, oh no, this is gonna make me Charlotte.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Oh you're so right. I haven't taken the quiz in
- 2:21Speaker 2: a minute, but I do remember thinking because I think
- 2:24Speaker 2: I ended up being it wasn't Miranda because I wanted
- 2:28Speaker 2: to be Miranda, but I ended up being like either Carrie,
- 2:32Speaker 2: I think Carrie, which I was like, no, I don't,
- 2:33Speaker 2: I don't. I feel like it's the least favorite right now.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I don't want to do I.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Think I got Gary this time, though, did you? But
- 2:42Speaker 1: Lou and I were discussing this. A lot of the
- 2:45Speaker 1: questions are based on like their exes. I don't know
- 2:48Speaker 1: who any of these people are, so I'm just like, yeah,
- 2:51Speaker 1: that's true, it sounds right.
- 2:53Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 2:54Speaker 2: So did you pick a Charlotte X Lou? I?
- 2:59Speaker 6: I think I did. I think one of the questions
- 3:01Speaker 6: is like, which ex of this character would you pick?
- 3:05Speaker 6: And I didn't remember any of Charlotte Sex's only her her?
- 3:09Speaker 5: Uh wait, spoiler, can you give us fum?
- 3:12Speaker 2: I just it's fine, she has no.
- 3:18Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, we're good.
- 3:23Speaker 2: I love this that everybody has different experiences because it's
- 3:26Speaker 2: so good to hear the different perspectives. And I'm going
- 3:29Speaker 2: to get this in a second. But before we start, Annie,
- 3:32Speaker 2: are you sipping on anything for this happy hour?
- 3:35Speaker 4: Am? Well?
- 3:37Speaker 1: I feel so bad, So Lou, We're so happy to
- 3:39Speaker 1: have you, longtime listener.
- 3:41Speaker 4: We've been pumping up this listener, Come on and do it.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Neither Samantha and I are in a great place because
- 3:49Speaker 1: Samantha's still got teeth problems. I still have to throw problems.
- 3:51Speaker 1: So I'm drinking a hot toddy, which was the same thing,
- 3:54Speaker 1: just hot water, lemon lukewarm water, it's not hot cinnamon, ginger,
- 4:00Speaker 1: A little bit of whiskey.
- 4:01Speaker 4: That's it.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Do you still not have a tea kettle?
- 4:04Speaker 4: Any Why are you so you keep that?
- 4:09Speaker 2: I gave you mine.
- 4:11Speaker 4: No, you didn't because I said I don't drink tea.
- 4:15Speaker 4: It's useless. And here I am.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Needing a tea Kettlee.
- 4:24Speaker 4: Like no one I've ever seen.
- 4:28Speaker 5: Are you coffee?
- 4:29Speaker 3: Annie?
- 4:30Speaker 5: And Samantha your tea?
- 4:31Speaker 2: No? I like both. Annie's actually allergic to. We've figured
- 4:35Speaker 2: out probably all teas. Uh, But I still wanted her
- 4:37Speaker 2: to have a tea kettle just to boil water or whatnot.
- 4:40Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't need this, and she has
- 4:41Speaker 2: a small space. So her good friend Marissa, which I'm
- 4:44Speaker 2: sure you've heard us talk about, she's the Queen of teas.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I'm pretty pretty convinced because she would carry you around
- 4:51Speaker 2: a tea kettle wherever she goes.
- 4:54Speaker 3: That's fun. If she's gonna spend.
- 4:55Speaker 2: An extending amount of time. We love you, Marissa, and
- 4:59Speaker 2: so I'm trying to give anyone as well, because I like,
- 5:02Speaker 2: your friends come over. They don't need to be carrying
- 5:04Speaker 2: a full on tea kettle. Long story, I.
- 5:07Speaker 6: Just like imagining Mrissa with a tea kettle literally everywhere.
- 5:11Speaker 2: She brought one to my house like she did not know,
- 5:14Speaker 2: but I'm like, no, I okay, it was quite cute.
- 5:17Speaker 2: She's quite She's very prepared. For sure. Are you sitting
- 5:23Speaker 2: on anything, lou Water? Yeah, So me and you are
- 5:26Speaker 2: in this boat together because yes, as Annie has mentioned
- 5:30Speaker 2: and we've talked about before, we are not in the
- 5:33Speaker 2: greatest of shapes health wise or mentally. Apparently I had
- 5:37Speaker 2: a teeth extraction, so I can't drink anything like carbonated
- 5:40Speaker 2: or anything. So straight water, which, as Annie would say,
- 5:44Speaker 2: this is her favorite beverage water, and I'm like, yeah,
- 5:47Speaker 2: it really is nice and refreshing to have.
- 5:50Speaker 5: Doesn't like it.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Everybody's going to be so hydrated, so hydrated. Okay, So
- 5:55Speaker 2: as we do, we are on the season finale of
- 5:59Speaker 2: A season two, which I'm like, oh wow, that happened
- 6:02Speaker 2: a lot quicker than I thought, because I think I
- 6:03Speaker 2: thought there was like twenty five episodes. There's not. Yeah,
- 6:06Speaker 2: there's only eighteen. So we finally made it. And to
- 6:10Speaker 2: the form I need, Annie, can you give us what
- 6:13Speaker 2: has happened in the past a recap if you will.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Uh?
- 6:17Speaker 1: Well, okay, we started with the breakup, I always say
- 6:23Speaker 1: with big and then they can carry And then they
- 6:26Speaker 1: got back together mid season, and now he's shown up
- 6:29Speaker 1: again and he is getting married to a younger woman,
- 6:34Speaker 1: and this is shaken Carrie to the core. And she's
- 6:38Speaker 1: also had like relev elevations around like the type of
- 6:41Speaker 1: men she goes for kind of I date men that
- 6:45Speaker 1: are not good for me. So that's like her arc
- 6:48Speaker 1: that's ongoing and I'm sure it is coming to a
- 6:52Speaker 1: head in the season finale. Then we have Miranda who
- 6:58Speaker 1: got introduced to if You've known anything the show, Steve
- 7:03Speaker 1: and they were dating for a while and then they
- 7:06Speaker 1: broke up over kind of like financial things. But now
- 7:08Speaker 1: he's want of like maybe back in the picture, Charlotte,
- 7:13Speaker 1: I love again. I love how she's like ostensibly the
- 7:17Speaker 1: one that's, you know, looking for the one, And maybe
- 7:19Speaker 1: that's the point. She's gone through a lot of different fellows.
- 7:23Speaker 1: She's projected her own issues onto other people about what
- 7:27Speaker 1: relationships should look like. Then Samantha continues to be Samantha
- 7:35Speaker 1: and date all kinds of people, do all kinds of things,
- 7:39Speaker 1: and just firm and her personality knowing who she is
- 7:42Speaker 1: and their friendship remains strong, and there have been several
- 7:45Speaker 1: episodes where we're like, oh, I'm not I'm glad they're
- 7:47Speaker 1: still focusing on this friendship aspect.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yes, Lou, do you have anything to add to her recap?
- 7:54Speaker 6: I I will be possibly very lost.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair, that's fair. That's kind of how we
- 8:03Speaker 2: bring everyone. I feel like, outside of you and Bridget,
- 8:08Speaker 2: like our producers and our researchers are like, we have
- 8:12Speaker 2: never seen this show. One was not like was literally
- 8:15Speaker 2: an infant when they were coming out, so they were like, Nope,
- 8:21Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. So much left
- 8:24Speaker 2: in them though, however, Okay, so I feel like I
- 8:27Speaker 2: need I guess we should have done this for all
- 8:29Speaker 2: of them, but we should put like these are adult content,
- 8:32Speaker 2: like not necessarily over the top, but we're talking about
- 8:35Speaker 2: sex and we're definitely talking about adult topics. I think
- 8:39Speaker 2: we said it at the beginning of all this series,
- 8:41Speaker 2: but yeah, if you have children, there's a good chance
- 8:43Speaker 2: you want to either put headphones on or wait, because yeah,
- 8:47Speaker 2: especially this episode. Just so I'm just gonna go ahead
- 8:51Speaker 2: with that as a caveat. Yeah, so we're gonna have,
- 8:56Speaker 2: we're gonna get We're gonna get into some really fun
- 8:59Speaker 2: conversation with the Lou. Welcome to the show. Yeah, I
- 9:04Speaker 2: know this is gonna build. I'm building it up, aren't I.
- 9:06Speaker 2: The title of this episode is X and the City,
- 9:10Speaker 2: so I'm gonna let Annie go first. What do you
- 9:13Speaker 2: think this episode is about?
- 9:14Speaker 4: Exes? I think it's about by.
- 9:17Speaker 2: The way, it's not necessarily cheating, but taking the easy
- 9:22Speaker 2: way out. Lou, just to that fly, dare you?
- 9:30Speaker 6: This is my favorite part when Annie tries to guess
- 9:33Speaker 6: what content of the episode is based on so.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Called me out in front of Lou or treasured listener. Okay, exes.
- 9:47Speaker 1: So I think BIG's wedding is gonna be involved. I
- 9:51Speaker 1: think Steve's gonna come back into the picture for Miranda.
- 9:56Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 9:57Speaker 1: About the other two. Yeah, that's it X in the
- 10:00Speaker 1: City all right.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Excellu, do you want to take a shot?
- 10:06Speaker 4: Okay?
- 10:06Speaker 6: I think it's going to be Carrie all over the
- 10:09Speaker 6: city just being reminded of Big left and right and
- 10:15Speaker 6: wallowing in her heartbreak.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Ooh, any she's trying any Hey that Lou.
- 10:24Speaker 1: When we first contacted you, you asked should I rewatch?
- 10:29Speaker 1: And I said no, unless you really want to so
- 10:34Speaker 1: this is is gonna be fun. But also, yeah, I
- 10:36Speaker 1: didn't really take into account that we are gonna you
- 10:39Speaker 1: don't have to share anything you don't watch. But then
- 10:41Speaker 1: we do get into some stumpings here.
- 10:46Speaker 2: We don't know. I was like, we are very transparent,
- 10:49Speaker 2: a little too to you.
- 10:51Speaker 6: Why yeah, And I haven't seen this in fifteen years,
- 10:54Speaker 6: but I did watch it and to end at some
- 10:57Speaker 6: point way back when.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Way back when. So you you are kind of letting
- 11:00Speaker 2: me diehard at the beginning. I did rewatch it. Sometimes
- 11:04Speaker 2: afterwards I will say, I get into late these like
- 11:07Speaker 2: needing to rewatch things and these. This was an easy
- 11:10Speaker 2: twenty minute episode, but okay, you already, let's jump into this.
- 11:28Speaker 7: Another choice is how to deal with an ex boyfriend.
- 11:31Speaker 7: Some women handle it coolly, calmly, while others.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Like Steve. All right, so Annie, you get a point
- 11:42Speaker 2: because here comes Steve just as they run away. What
- 11:47Speaker 2: is your reaction when you run into an X?
- 11:50Speaker 1: I sort of freeze, And then I'm so frustrated they're
- 11:52Speaker 1: there that I keep looking at them, like I wish
- 11:55Speaker 1: I could just forget they're there, and like, you know,
- 11:57Speaker 1: your attention is drawn to them?
- 11:58Speaker 4: You know, I hate it because you're like, I don't
- 12:01Speaker 4: want to get and see. Yes, exactly what about you?
- 12:05Speaker 6: For me, it's like panic and run, just yes, no
- 12:09Speaker 6: matter what I'm doing. The other day, it happened in
- 12:11Speaker 6: ari I, and I was just like, oh, well, suddenly
- 12:14Speaker 6: I'm done with.
- 12:17Speaker 3: Why did I come in here? Oh I wasn't a saken.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I gotta go. I meant to go to Cromer. I'll
- 12:21Speaker 2: be back.
- 12:22Speaker 6: Even when the ex is like waving at mess store,
- 12:25Speaker 6: I'm just like, no, don't.
- 12:28Speaker 2: I'm childish enough that if it's not purposeful, or if
- 12:32Speaker 2: it's not something official, I'm going to just ignore you
- 12:35Speaker 2: and be like by.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Run like a coward. It's my my co team.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Don't even run away. I walk past you like I
- 12:41Speaker 2: don't know you're there.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Damn worse probably, but it's clear, like, okay, she does
- 12:49Speaker 1: not want anything to me.
- 12:51Speaker 2: We're not talking, but you're not alive.
- 12:56Speaker 5: I like the boundaries, Samantha.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Very strong, maybe a long ocean.
- 13:03Speaker 7: If you love someone and you break up, where does
- 13:09Speaker 7: the love go?
- 13:10Speaker 2: Where does the love go? That's very philosophical.
- 13:13Speaker 4: I've thought about this too.
- 13:14Speaker 1: We've talked about this because it is strange when someone
- 13:16Speaker 1: shares so much of your life when someone you have
- 13:19Speaker 1: so many memories with them, with like what you were saying, Lou,
- 13:21Speaker 1: when you go around and you're like, oh, I remember
- 13:23Speaker 1: being here or I remember being here, and you think
- 13:26Speaker 1: maybe we have a food together, and then it's gone
- 13:28Speaker 1: and it's kind of strange.
- 13:30Speaker 4: It's like a strange feeling.
- 13:32Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.
- 13:32Speaker 6: I think it depends on the person. It's like sometimes
- 13:35Speaker 6: it transforms and you do still have like a certain
- 13:39Speaker 6: love for a person, but it's totally different. And then
- 13:42Speaker 6: sometimes it's just like nothing.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Or sometimes you're trying really hard to erase it. You're like,
- 13:50Speaker 2: why does this have to be? I like doing this
- 13:52Speaker 2: before you Now it's ruined. Yeah, I apparently have some
- 13:55Speaker 2: issues with exis well.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Also I'm thinking about this too, I think because so
- 13:59Speaker 1: much of our meat is like there's the one true
- 14:01Speaker 1: love that if you thought that that was what it
- 14:05Speaker 1: was for a minute, it's at least for me, there's
- 14:07Speaker 1: a part of me that, even though I don't want
- 14:09Speaker 1: to be in that relationship, I'm kind of sad that
- 14:11Speaker 1: they found someone.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Else because that is the one true love maybe or something.
- 14:16Speaker 4: It's it's an odd feeling.
- 14:19Speaker 2: I've talked about the fact that I've had like three
- 14:23Speaker 2: people that dated and then the person they met after
- 14:25Speaker 2: me they got married to. But I was like, wait,
- 14:28Speaker 2: what is this? Am I a good luck charm for you?
- 14:32Speaker 2: Or what is happening? Even though I don't want to
- 14:35Speaker 2: be married? That still felt like I kick in the
- 14:37Speaker 2: pants somehow.
- 14:40Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 14:40Speaker 6: I definitely relate to like wanting the person to find
- 14:44Speaker 6: that dream person for them or whatever, Like that's a
- 14:48Speaker 6: really exciting idea. Like I don't I'm not on the
- 14:50Speaker 6: up and up on what my exes are doing, but.
- 14:53Speaker 5: I like the idea of it. It's like, oh, you
- 14:56Speaker 5: found the perfect person whatever in quotes perfectly.
- 15:00Speaker 2: That's a good reaction. My reaction was a lot more pessimistic. Yeah, okay,
- 15:06Speaker 2: But the other question here is can you be friends
- 15:08Speaker 2: with an ex?
- 15:09Speaker 4: Yes, I can't, Annie eight.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Because you kind of thought of them as a friend
- 15:15Speaker 2: to begin with.
- 15:20Speaker 6: I feel like that's really healthy and evolved when thinking
- 15:25Speaker 6: about it, Annie.
- 15:26Speaker 3: I do not have that kind of help. Again, they
- 15:28Speaker 3: don't exist.
- 15:31Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it depends on the person.
- 15:33Speaker 6: Like, generally speaking, I am not in touch with my exes.
- 15:39Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think they're terrible people or anything, though,
- 15:44Speaker 5: It's just.
- 15:44Speaker 6: Like maybe because we weren't friends first, we just evolved
- 15:48Speaker 6: past that and then we moved on and.
- 15:53Speaker 2: That's growth and I admire that.
- 15:57Speaker 5: But also people can make it work.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Yeah, not right.
- 16:06Speaker 7: Charlotte came face to face with the memory of her
- 16:09Speaker 7: first her horse, Tatty. Charlotte's relationship with Taddy ended sadly
- 16:16Speaker 7: when he threw her during a teen equestrian competition, causing
- 16:20Speaker 7: her to break her collarbone and lose the blue ribbon.
- 16:23Speaker 2: All right, now we have a horse, love a horse,
- 16:26Speaker 2: love family. Yeah, that was her first love. Charlotte's relationship
- 16:30Speaker 2: here is our hobbies.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Oh so it's their ex hobby, the horse. She's got
- 16:37Speaker 1: to get back on the horse. You know they were
- 16:38Speaker 1: talking about that. That's the pun they were thinking about.
- 16:41Speaker 2: It's gonna be in there somewhere if he hasn't already,
- 16:43Speaker 2: we made missed it. Ali al right, fans and the.
- 16:55Speaker 8: Excuse me, but do I know you I still.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Have a hard time believing people just randomly go up
- 17:01Speaker 2: to people on the street outside of harassing.
- 17:04Speaker 6: I was just about to comment on that, like, is
- 17:05Speaker 6: this a this.
- 17:06Speaker 5: Is just a stranger to her or has yet? Okay? Interesting?
- 17:11Speaker 4: I used to have.
- 17:12Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about in the podcast before, but
- 17:15Speaker 1: I had two spots. If I went there, I would
- 17:17Speaker 1: get asked out by a random dude.
- 17:20Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.
- 17:21Speaker 2: I guess that does maybe I don't see that as
- 17:23Speaker 2: being successful, So in my head, it's not a thing
- 17:26Speaker 2: outside of being harassed.
- 17:28Speaker 1: It's true, it is true, and there I stopped going
- 17:31Speaker 1: to one of those places because none of the guys
- 17:33Speaker 1: were like and it was all dudes. None of the
- 17:34Speaker 1: guys were made me feel her ass. But eventually it
- 17:37Speaker 1: started to become a place where it just was like,
- 17:40Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable here, Like I can't just go and do
- 17:42Speaker 1: this thing without dealing with this.
- 17:47Speaker 7: I'm well, I hadn't planned on the idiot stick.
- 17:56Speaker 5: Figure out she.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Has a title that's pretty cruel without knowing if she
- 18:00Speaker 2: is at all. I D yeah, caller, I D again.
- 18:06Speaker 2: This is the non cell phone era with caller.
- 18:10Speaker 5: I D he this is answering machine.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 6: I remember getting messages on the answering machine from like
- 18:19Speaker 6: a boy in school, and then my grandma coming home
- 18:22Speaker 6: and playing the message.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Before I could get to it, like, no, don't leave messages,
- 18:28Speaker 5: don't do that.
- 18:29Speaker 8: I'm gonna get bothered by my family.
- 18:33Speaker 2: He knows I'm a boy.
- 18:36Speaker 4: I remember, like my parents would answer and they'd be like,
- 18:39Speaker 4: what are your intentions?
- 18:42Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
- 18:44Speaker 3: Wow.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I remember my brother being really annoying and picking up
- 18:47Speaker 2: the other line while I someone and me having to
- 18:51Speaker 2: yell get off the phones and then then make fun
- 18:54Speaker 2: of me.
- 18:55Speaker 7: Yes, I used to make our lunch reservations in BIG's name,
- 19:03Speaker 7: but today I put it in mind because that's what friends.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Do, is okay. Oh so Carrie's attempting to be friends
- 19:12Speaker 2: with Big.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Oh, I just even not knowing how it ends, I
- 19:17Speaker 1: would be like, no, this isn't gonna work.
- 19:20Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean she still has feels for Big, right, Like, yeah,
- 19:25Speaker 6: you gotta be honest about where you're at.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Agree.
- 19:30Speaker 1: She does have a way of approaching things that I
- 19:32Speaker 1: do relate to, which is kind of an annoying way
- 19:35Speaker 1: of being like very analytical, like, oh, I am the
- 19:39Speaker 1: new friend, now, therefore this is how I act and.
- 19:42Speaker 4: This is how this will go, which is not necessarily true.
- 19:47Speaker 2: But it's also that neurotic side where you're trying to
- 19:50Speaker 2: prep for all situations so you don't react inappropriately, which
- 19:55Speaker 2: is what I do. I'm like, Okay, if this happens,
- 19:56Speaker 2: this is what I do. It's kind of like, uh,
- 20:00Speaker 2: going on Google Maps to see the parking situation, just
- 20:03Speaker 2: you have to be there to minissarily.
- 20:04Speaker 3: Is that me?
- 20:05Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well that's smart, that's necessary.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you totally.
- 20:12Speaker 6: I feel like there's this weird dynamic and maybe this
- 20:15Speaker 6: is what Carrie and Bigger are doing, where you're like,
- 20:18Speaker 6: I'm going to show you how.
- 20:19Speaker 5: Awesome I'm doing.
- 20:20Speaker 6: Kind of things like have you all ever experienced that
- 20:22Speaker 6: where an X reaches out It's definitely happened to me
- 20:25Speaker 6: and they're like, come and meet me for lunch and
- 20:26Speaker 6: I'm like.
- 20:28Speaker 5: I don't want anything out of this. What are you
- 20:30Speaker 5: trying to get out of it? And then it ends
- 20:32Speaker 5: up being like I just want to show you that I'm.
- 20:34Speaker 3: Doing really great.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Yeah again, Yeah, that's kind I feel like that's what
- 20:39Speaker 2: happens now with social media especially, was like, we'll look
- 20:42Speaker 2: at how I'm living my life. I'm doing all these trips.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Right after a breakup, you realize, oh, they just broke
- 20:47Speaker 2: up and they're trying to show they're so okay, right,
- 20:50Speaker 2: kind of hearing the same thing she's trying to be
- 20:53Speaker 2: the bigger person to be like, I want to hear
- 20:55Speaker 2: about your relationship that mind, I can't take it. You
- 21:02Speaker 2: know what I broke in?
- 21:03Speaker 7: Big I did. I broke them in And now the
- 21:06Speaker 7: idiot's stick figure with those soul gets to write him.
- 21:09Speaker 6: Carrie, I hear this a lot from my girlfriends of
- 21:12Speaker 6: like how she's saying she broke somebody in fixed.
- 21:18Speaker 2: I fixed them. I made him like this and now
- 21:19Speaker 2: you're you're getting the benefits. Well, it's kind of the
- 21:22Speaker 2: whole again. When I talked about, you know, the dudes
- 21:24Speaker 2: that soon after me like dated someone got married, I
- 21:27Speaker 2: was like, what just happened? Essentially, like they figured out
- 21:30Speaker 2: they don't want.
- 21:32Speaker 6: A man or Carrie would argue that you prepped them
- 21:36Speaker 6: or at.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Least like taught them like how to be in a
- 21:38Speaker 2: relationship without this point or what women don't want, and
- 21:43Speaker 2: then they found a better way or someone who was
- 21:47Speaker 2: accepting of everything, and I'm like, now I'm good.
- 21:49Speaker 6: Or the reality is that probably every relationship, if you
- 21:53Speaker 6: open the hood.
- 21:54Speaker 8: So to speak, is flawed. Well, anyways, I want.
- 22:04Speaker 7: To know that I never pick up guys on the
- 22:07Speaker 7: street unless they're very cute.
- 22:09Speaker 2: All right, We're with Sam. So this is kind of
- 22:11Speaker 2: the part where I was like, yeah, it's gonna it's Uh,
- 22:13Speaker 2: that's the thing.
- 22:15Speaker 4: I gotta warn you about something warned me about. Oh
- 22:19Speaker 4: my gosh, well is gonna happen. I'm very well endowed.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Oh so his nickname is mister cocky by the way,
- 22:27Speaker 2: just because of his like, you know, uh attitude and
- 22:30Speaker 2: wanted to.
- 22:31Speaker 4: Be I think he was on the quiz they just
- 22:35Speaker 4: can't handle it. Well, I'm not most women, So in
- 22:41Speaker 4: zip and get over here.
- 22:43Speaker 2: And Sam's always talked about, you know, being all good
- 22:46Speaker 2: for it.
- 22:47Speaker 7: Samantha suddenly understood what made mister Cocky so cocky.
- 22:51Speaker 4: Oh my god. Welcome.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh it's not the end.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I want to get my mouth and near it.
- 23:08Speaker 5: I was afraid I get locked off.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Oh my god. I wonder historically has that ever happened.
- 23:15Speaker 4: I kind of don't want to think about it, sort
- 23:17Speaker 4: I don't want to know. So thanks for coming off
- 23:26Speaker 4: to dinner.
- 23:27Speaker 5: Well thanks for letting me pay.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Finally, friends do isn't it okay? So we got Steve
- 23:33Speaker 2: and Miranda being friends or are they?
- 23:37Speaker 6: I can't unsee what I've seen When I tried to
- 23:39Speaker 6: watch the reboot and just like that.
- 23:42Speaker 9: Have you seen it, Samantha, Yes, yeah, so Steve was
- 23:47Speaker 9: the best of the best and then they kind of
- 23:50Speaker 9: in the movies and the reboot just really destroyed him.
- 23:53Speaker 2: It felt like this character.
- 23:55Speaker 5: Anyway, Yeah, it's pretty rough.
- 23:57Speaker 2: I feel like life changes can happen like that, and
- 24:01Speaker 2: we had talked about that too. Unfortunately, it's just that
- 24:05Speaker 2: it had to happen to one of the better guys
- 24:08Speaker 2: on the show.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Okay, here we go, here we go.
- 24:20Speaker 8: Yeah you mean we're not there yet.
- 24:24Speaker 3: No, Okay, stop whoa boy?
- 24:28Speaker 4: Whoa?
- 24:28Speaker 2: Whoa?
- 24:33Speaker 4: Can we just be friends?
- 24:38Speaker 7: And just like that, Samantha made her very first male
- 24:42Speaker 7: friends I've had.
- 24:43Speaker 1: I've heard friends have this conversation too, the Goldilucks penis
- 24:48Speaker 1: too big, not great.
- 24:50Speaker 2: I mean, there's the whole TikTok conversation that men really
- 24:54Speaker 2: have like misconstrued what women want because of this like
- 25:00Speaker 2: hetero in order to very like melgaze of what is
- 25:04Speaker 2: desirable when it comes to uh, if it comes to penises,
- 25:08Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, it's not it's not as big
- 25:11Speaker 2: as you think. That's not what we want, quote unquote,
- 25:13Speaker 2: and they're like giving measurements of like this is good
- 25:15Speaker 2: this is good as bad, this is real bad. We
- 25:16Speaker 2: don't please, don't give that. And this is kind of
- 25:21Speaker 2: that conversation Sam thinks that she can have at all,
- 25:23Speaker 2: and that's what she wants and in reality, like oh no,
- 25:26Speaker 2: just kidding.
- 25:27Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting to see this now so many years
- 25:31Speaker 6: on with the lens of like what I now understand
- 25:34Speaker 6: about consent that I didn't understand back then watching it.
- 25:38Speaker 6: And I was really curious how that sex scene was
- 25:40Speaker 6: gonna go with Samantha around consent, because like they were
- 25:44Speaker 6: starting and then she changed her mind, Like that's okay, right,
- 25:49Speaker 6: but like I don't know how y'all, Like in our culture,
- 25:53Speaker 6: I feel like I wasn't raised for changing my mind
- 25:56Speaker 6: to be acceptable.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean you're absolutely right. It does kind
- 26:01Speaker 2: of show to that. It's like it's a comedic scene,
- 26:04Speaker 2: but in actuality is important in that conversation, like she
- 26:06Speaker 2: did want to, and Sam is also strong enough that
- 26:08Speaker 2: she can say that without hesitation.
- 26:11Speaker 1: She knows it and feels confident about it. Yeah, because
- 26:15Speaker 1: a lot of us don't grow up with that message.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and what does it take? And maybe it's something
- 26:21Speaker 2: to be said that she is more sexually free and
- 26:23Speaker 2: aware of herself, so she's able to also draw her lines.
- 26:33Speaker 7: Someday, very soon, we can all meet for a drink
- 26:37Speaker 7: and be great friends, you know, like they do in
- 26:41Speaker 7: the movies.
- 26:43Speaker 5: How does this really work?
- 26:44Speaker 2: Though?
- 26:44Speaker 6: So, like if you're if you're close friends with an
- 26:47Speaker 6: ex and they have a new partner, then another person
- 26:51Speaker 6: enters the picture and like does their opinion matter?
- 26:54Speaker 3: Like does that?
- 26:55Speaker 5: How does that play in it for you? Annie?
- 26:58Speaker 4: I think? Uh.
- 27:00Speaker 1: I had an ex who was so like, I'm going
- 27:04Speaker 1: to go hang out with my ex and said, okay,
- 27:06Speaker 1: if not, then it's okay, and I'm thank you for
- 27:08Speaker 1: checking with me.
- 27:09Speaker 4: Oh good. So I've been on that side of it.
- 27:12Speaker 1: But then on the other side, I've also had an
- 27:13Speaker 1: ex who was adamant that me and his new partner
- 27:18Speaker 1: be friends, and I was like, is that baron to Like,
- 27:24Speaker 1: I mean, we can. I'm happy to try it, but
- 27:26Speaker 1: we don't have to do anything here.
- 27:28Speaker 4: I'm good.
- 27:30Speaker 1: But I do think like, yeah, the person should be
- 27:33Speaker 1: involved in that decision or just like made aware. I
- 27:36Speaker 1: don't think it should be a controlling thing. Yeah, but
- 27:38Speaker 1: I think it should be talked about for sure.
- 27:41Speaker 5: That makes a lot of sense.
- 27:42Speaker 6: Like I'm thinking about beg having his engagement party and
- 27:45Speaker 6: like having lunch with Carrie, and I'm wondering, like, how
- 27:49Speaker 6: is his fiance involved in this?
- 27:52Speaker 5: What's approprious? James?
- 28:01Speaker 1: Oh, excuse me?
- 28:05Speaker 3: Mentioned of d X.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Yeah, so, James, I don't know what if you remember
- 28:09Speaker 2: Lou in season one she liked the guy who had
- 28:12Speaker 2: too small of a penis? Yeah, James, Oh, whoa who
- 28:19Speaker 2: she really really really liked, but she broke up with him.
- 28:24Speaker 2: She needs to know the she needs to find the
- 28:29Speaker 2: just right Why wasn't it?
- 28:39Speaker 7: No, seriously, I really need to hear you say.
- 28:43Speaker 6: This is so awkward, Like does she really think she's
- 28:45Speaker 6: going to get a good answer, like why wasn't it?
- 28:48Speaker 9: Me?
- 28:49Speaker 3: As well as the fuck once again, He's like left.
- 28:53Speaker 2: His fiance in the car to go talk to her.
- 28:55Speaker 2: A super yeah interesting, Like she's very the the fiance
- 29:01Speaker 2: is very patient and has been very kind in this
- 29:03Speaker 2: entire Oh yeah exchange.
- 29:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely want to be standing there talking to
- 29:08Speaker 6: my ex with his fiance watching, like.
- 29:10Speaker 5: I just be like, I gotta get out of here.
- 29:13Speaker 7: Your girls love me.
- 29:17Speaker 2: I don't get it and you never did and you
- 29:22Speaker 2: never did.
- 29:23Speaker 1: You gotta practice, You're like come back to your lines.
- 29:26Speaker 4: You gotta have it already. She does seem like that
- 29:28Speaker 4: kind of person.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm very realistic and knowing that I would
- 29:31Speaker 2: have just ran away.
- 29:35Speaker 1: I could have the line like perfect in here, and
- 29:37Speaker 1: then the moment comes and I'm like, what was it?
- 29:40Speaker 4: What was my name?
- 29:42Speaker 3: You just be like, that's that's the ending for me.
- 30:06Speaker 2: So Annie, we we have now concluded and you have
- 30:10Speaker 2: you did pretty well. I'm actually pretty pretty proud of you.
- 30:13Speaker 3: I'm kind of one one rate.
- 30:14Speaker 2: You get like a definitely an a minus because you
- 30:17Speaker 2: bought me Steve without even knowing that Steve was going
- 30:21Speaker 2: to be a part of this. So I'm actually kind
- 30:23Speaker 2: of shocked.
- 30:24Speaker 4: I have never felt so proud.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Yeah again, I still say that the title thing to
- 30:33Speaker 2: be fair, that's what you're supposed to be doing. You're
- 30:35Speaker 2: finally caught on and.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Don't don't take away from me when I finally learned after.
- 30:44Speaker 3: They're the hit that I give you.
- 30:46Speaker 2: But you finally made it, Loui. You did an amazing
- 30:48Speaker 2: job because you went even deeper, like you went to
- 30:51Speaker 2: the meetings of it all like, oh.
- 30:52Speaker 4: I think I was wrong.
- 30:53Speaker 5: I think I was wrong.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Though, though you you hit the idea about like thinking
- 30:59Speaker 2: on it and going all that, so you were close
- 31:02Speaker 2: to but I will say, like, yeah, I was making
- 31:04Speaker 2: I was gonna make dick jokes. And you are very
- 31:08Speaker 2: very smart and tuitive in this episode, So thank you
- 31:10Speaker 2: for bringing that.
- 31:11Speaker 6: In Either direction would have been fine with me.
- 31:16Speaker 3: I'm sure.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Thank god louis there, thank you for saving us as
- 31:22Speaker 2: I should be because yeah, because there were so many things,
- 31:26Speaker 2: But what did you think on the rewatch of this, Lou?
- 31:30Speaker 5: Oh gosh, it's just like it's such a.
- 31:34Speaker 6: Problematic show, I think on so many levels, but very entertaining, right.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that is there's so many things that
- 31:42Speaker 2: you have to go back and forth and like the
- 31:43Speaker 2: conversations and relive, but like the one thing that you
- 31:46Speaker 2: were talking about with the consent and and knowing the
- 31:49Speaker 2: sexual boundaries and even like the conversations, it's interesting to
- 31:53Speaker 2: look back on it and seeing what that looks like.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Can you be friends? Is it very heteronormative cis ideals
- 31:59Speaker 2: about not being able to fit friends with men or
- 32:01Speaker 2: the opposite sex? Yes? And is it very binary? Absolutely?
- 32:05Speaker 2: Obviously for sure. When we were trying to pick out
- 32:09Speaker 2: the episodes that we wanted to do, with a listener.
- 32:12Speaker 2: We were trying to find the least problematic ones.
- 32:15Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see that for sure, because.
- 32:18Speaker 2: There were some like we can't do that, we can't
- 32:20Speaker 2: do this one. Yeah, definitely not listen. Yeah, because it's
- 32:24Speaker 2: so much. But you did a great job in handling
- 32:27Speaker 2: even the what would seem like minor problems, but it's
- 32:32Speaker 2: still problems. So thank you for that and calling it
- 32:35Speaker 2: out as well seeing the positive, which, yeah, there's something I.
- 32:39Speaker 5: Do well, Yeah, there's some positives there.
- 32:41Speaker 6: I do think that would be an interesting exercise, like
- 32:43Speaker 6: to I'm not gonna do it, I'll be honest, but
- 32:46Speaker 6: to rewatch the whole series and with the lens of
- 32:49Speaker 6: what I know about consent today, right, and see like
- 32:52Speaker 6: where do they get it right?
- 32:53Speaker 5: And where did they get it wrong?
- 32:54Speaker 6: Because probably you're right to what you said earlier Samantha
- 32:57Speaker 6: about the character Samantha getting some things right, because she
- 33:00Speaker 6: is the characterization of the empowered.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Woman, especially when it comes to sex. Right, yeah, right, right,
- 33:06Speaker 2: that's where they some of them get in a little more
- 33:08Speaker 2: old fashioned as they get older. As we saw, I
- 33:10Speaker 2: don't did you did you say you watched?
- 33:12Speaker 9: Uh?
- 33:13Speaker 3: And just like that, Yeah, I did.
- 33:16Speaker 6: How did I make it? How did I make it
- 33:18Speaker 6: all the way to the end? I feel bad for
- 33:20Speaker 6: criticizing it. Another thing I think about what I'm watching
- 33:22Speaker 6: these shows is like how much good work goes into
- 33:26Speaker 6: them from everyone, and like all of the pieces not
- 33:29Speaker 6: necessarily coming together in their right way.
- 33:31Speaker 5: Isn't like one person's bulk.
- 33:33Speaker 6: There's like there's great camera people and all these behind.
- 33:37Speaker 5: The scenes people who make shows work, And I don't know.
- 33:40Speaker 6: That always comes to mind, and I like, I want
- 33:42Speaker 6: to be respectful of that and all the hard work people.
- 33:45Speaker 2: But in right, and that's that's like it that you
- 33:48Speaker 2: do want to credit the good people. Then you see
- 33:50Speaker 2: things like we talk about the individual actor.
- 33:53Speaker 6: And you mean like some of the problematic stuff that's
- 33:55Speaker 6: come out about.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, So like there's so many things that
- 34:00Speaker 2: you could pick it apart, but you don't want to
- 34:02Speaker 2: because there's some good aspects. And then like for us
- 34:04Speaker 2: as podcasters watching to see what they do with this, yeah,
- 34:07Speaker 2: this notion that she's now a podcaster, yeah, which I
- 34:11Speaker 2: think is still funny.
- 34:13Speaker 4: I finally get to critique the podcaster.
- 34:17Speaker 2: We can do so many and now you've had an
- 34:19Speaker 2: experience of what a podcast kind of looks like because
- 34:22Speaker 2: you don't, that's not what they do.
- 34:25Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, big big fan of Annie and Samantha podcasters,
- 34:29Speaker 6: not a.
- 34:30Speaker 8: Huge fan of Harry's the podcaster.
- 34:33Speaker 6: I think to see like how I guess their relationships
- 34:37Speaker 6: evolved because seeing in this episode Brandon and Steve and.
- 34:40Speaker 5: Like, oh, they have such sexual chemistry.
- 34:42Speaker 6: And then you get to the reboot and it's like,
- 34:45Speaker 6: oh my gosh, the kitchen scene.
- 34:47Speaker 3: No, like what.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Like, surely when time and a relationship not all is lost?
- 34:55Speaker 3: Right, what is happening?
- 34:56Speaker 2: Right? Like, that's not always a thing. Well, as we
- 34:59Speaker 2: get to see with Charlotte and Harry, they stay together.
- 35:03Speaker 2: They're still in it for the long haul, supporting each other,
- 35:06Speaker 2: and seemed to be on the same plane, even with
- 35:10Speaker 2: their jumbled up line of the non binary child who
- 35:15Speaker 2: may or may not betrayed and that they're fumbling and
- 35:18Speaker 2: that could just be the writing in itself, I mean true,
- 35:21Speaker 2: or maybe that's just really real and it just makes
- 35:24Speaker 2: us sad to see it that way.
- 35:25Speaker 5: We just need Charlotte to be better.
- 35:30Speaker 2: But yeah, so thank you so much for going with
- 35:33Speaker 2: us on this journey in this episode. I hope you
- 35:37Speaker 2: had fun.
- 35:37Speaker 5: I had so much fun. Oh my gosh, it's amazing.
- 35:41Speaker 6: Yes, I'm seeing your faces and hearing your voices, which
- 35:45Speaker 6: is wild.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry again a BTS moment. I was twenty
- 35:49Speaker 2: to thirty minutes late because my equipment did not want
- 35:52Speaker 2: to function and did not want to participate, and because
- 35:55Speaker 2: I am not so savvy as all of you pretty
- 35:58Speaker 2: much know, my partner had to sit here for like
- 36:00Speaker 2: a good thirty minutes trying to fix it for me.
- 36:02Speaker 3: So thank you for your fiction.
- 36:05Speaker 6: Yeah, of course I got to chat with Annie. It
- 36:07Speaker 6: was dream come true, so much fun. Been listening for
- 36:10Speaker 6: so many years now. I was trying to figure out
- 36:11Speaker 6: how many years, and I don't know, but I love this.
- 36:15Speaker 6: This era in the evolution of Sminty very cool. I
- 36:20Speaker 6: was excited to hear Samantha, and I loved listening to
- 36:23Speaker 6: your story basically where you characterize it as like I
- 36:28Speaker 6: just kept showing up and I got this job.
- 36:31Speaker 3: I love that. I still hold to that.
- 36:33Speaker 5: I hope just keep showing up. However that's working.
- 36:36Speaker 2: And you did yay it manifested that or forced it
- 36:41Speaker 2: on Annie.
- 36:42Speaker 3: These two things.
- 36:44Speaker 5: Very cool.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you. This has been
- 36:48Speaker 1: it's been delightful for us to.
- 36:51Speaker 4: Have you, Lou.
- 36:52Speaker 1: You're around us the haunts that we haunt. So yees, Atlanta,
- 36:57Speaker 1: perhaps we can yeah up.
- 37:00Speaker 2: And actually hang out.
- 37:01Speaker 1: We love it, yes, yes, yes, yes, but yeah it's
- 37:05Speaker 1: been it's been so fun. So thank you, thank you,
- 37:07Speaker 1: thank you very much. And we are going to do
- 37:09Speaker 1: this again. Listeners, So if your name wasn't chosen, it
- 37:12Speaker 1: was a random thing. I used my D and D dice.
- 37:15Speaker 1: It was a whole thing.
- 37:19Speaker 4: Yes, yes, uh never fear. We're going to do it again.
- 37:23Speaker 4: But in the meantime, oh my gosh. Thanks.
- 37:25Speaker 1: This is always to our super producer Christina, who makes
- 37:27Speaker 1: these happen.
- 37:29Speaker 4: Thanks again to you.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Lou, Thank you, thank you.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Yes, and if you would like to contact us, you
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