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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, This is Peter Schreger. Listen to the
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  Speaker 2: Season with Peter Schreger. We were recording this on a
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday morning after July fourth. We took last week off
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  Speaker 2: to just celebrate the independence of our country and our
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  Speaker 2: amazing country that we have. Because this amazing country brings
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  Speaker 2: us incredible things like hot dog eating contests, sons Joey Chestnut.
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  Speaker 2: It gives us white parties, sons Peter Schrager, and it
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  Speaker 2: gives us things like more anticipation for the NFL and
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  Speaker 2: the football season that is coming. I want to start
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  Speaker 2: this podcast by recapping two things. One a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, I was asked to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: the Giants one hundred year anniversary event in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: It was at Madison Square Garden. I was flattered to
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  Speaker 2: be asked and I got to go there and I
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  Speaker 2: got to interview Joe Shane and Brian Dable, the GM
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  Speaker 2: and the head coach. And I also got to introduce
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  Speaker 2: Pete Gogolac, an eighty three year old former New York
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  Speaker 2: giant who's still as sharp as a whip and was
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  Speaker 2: cool as hell. He was a Giants kicker for many
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  Speaker 2: years and one of the true faces of that generation.
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  Speaker 2: But then I was just backstage, and I was backstage,
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  Speaker 2: and the coolest thing is like, I'm backstage and it's
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  Speaker 2: Phil Simms and Eli Manning just talking, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, that's cool generationally, especially if you're in the
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  Speaker 2: New York market and they're talking, it's fine. And then
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  Speaker 2: in another conversation is Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, and Kaevon Thibodeau,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I gotta take a photo of this.
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  Speaker 2: That is three generations of like Giants defensive superstars, two
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  Speaker 2: of them Hall of famers, one of them the great
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  Speaker 2: hope for New York Giants fans. And I came over
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  Speaker 2: and I'm watching LT backstage talk with Thibodau. Now Thibodeau
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  Speaker 2: has since told the story, but he asked LT for
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  Speaker 2: some advice. They were talking back and forth and the
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  Speaker 2: conversation went as this. LT says to Thibodeau, how many
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  Speaker 2: sacks did you have your rookie season? And he said eleven.
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  Speaker 2: And he looks at him and said, what did you
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  Speaker 2: play in three games? I was dying laughing. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, LT, LT's on one here. LT was great.
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  Speaker 2: But then it was cool because it's it wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: the superstar quarterbacks and defensive players like I had a
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  Speaker 2: great conversation with David Tyree backstage and what he's got
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  Speaker 2: going on. Amani Tumor, I haven't seen him in many years.
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  Speaker 2: He was there, Tiki Barber, Carl Banks, Harry Carson. You
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  Speaker 2: go through the list of guys and Victor Cruz from
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  Speaker 2: this most recent generation before this team, and it feels
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  Speaker 2: like there is a lot of pride and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of expectations for this franchise in this season based on
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  Speaker 2: what the legacy is talking about. Eight Championshi's four Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: and it was really cool to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: this event, and it kind of seamlessly goes into all right,
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  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks the off season with HBO. Full disclosure, I've
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  Speaker 2: been doing stuff with them, with like these recap pods
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  Speaker 2: with them over the years. I've got a long history
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  Speaker 2: of working with those guys, so I'm a Hard Knocks fan.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little skeptical going in this is only
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  Speaker 2: off season. They don't show any football training camp, and
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  Speaker 2: it was just gonna be like for agency and the
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  Speaker 2: draft and like Pro day's quite personally knowing that, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants probably have some editorial control all this day.
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  Speaker 2: Do I need to watch this? Like we know what
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  Speaker 2: happens Saquon leaves, and we know what happens they draft
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  Speaker 2: the leak neighbors. So I go in here with like
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  Speaker 2: rose colored thinking it's gonna be rose colored glasses. That's
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  Speaker 2: just gonna be everyone being like Saquan's awesome. Oh he's
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  Speaker 2: signing with the Eagles. Dang it. I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 2: it was awesome. I've seen the first two episodes. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's awesome. I think I might like it more
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  Speaker 2: than the actual Hard Knocks, which is like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more about the players and a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: about making the team. And there's like there's a sixth
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  Speaker 2: round pick who we fall in love with, and there's
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  Speaker 2: this you know, position coach who's got this interesting thing
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  Speaker 2: at how at the house, Like this is all ball.
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  Speaker 2: It's rare that me who's in the inside and who
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  Speaker 2: does this podcast and does the Good Morning Football and
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  Speaker 2: does the Fox stuff and has this relationship go it's
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  Speaker 2: rare that. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen that, and
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  Speaker 2: it's cool. Two episodes in really Digging Hard Knocks and
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  Speaker 2: the Giant stuff is neat. Now I'm in New York
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  Speaker 2: all summer. I might not have realized it, but apparently
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  Speaker 2: the Jets are winning the Super Bowl again, because everyone
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  Speaker 2: I talked to is like an Aaron wankoff and I
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  Speaker 2: want to get on the mic here, Aaron, you are
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  Speaker 2: a Bills fan by heart, but you live in New York,
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  Speaker 2: Like I thought that was last year. Jets fans have
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  Speaker 2: learned their lesson. The media has learned their lesson. I
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  Speaker 2: was watching ESPN yesterday and God blessed those guys doing
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  Speaker 2: a show on July ninth and doing an hour long
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  Speaker 2: show about you know and they're like, here are the
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  Speaker 2: top five running backs based on an anonymous poll with
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  Speaker 2: anonymous people, And it might have been pulled out of
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  Speaker 2: someone's you know, you know what, but it's like, the
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  Speaker 2: number one running back is Christian McAffrey. The number tw
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  Speaker 2: running back in the entire league is Bryce Hall. I'm like, wow, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Then I saw an article saying PFF says that the
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  Speaker 2: Jets of the number one defense in the league. This
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  Speaker 2: is all without even mentioning Rogers. I didn't think this,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna do this again, But here we are, and
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  Speaker 2: it's July ninth, and the Jets are the team that's
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  Speaker 2: being hyped again. Aaron, did you see this coming?
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  Speaker 3: Did you?
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  Speaker 2: Are you feeling that as well?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 4: I have one very close friend who's a Giants fan actually,
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  Speaker 4: but all summer he will find Aaron Rodgers tweets, copy
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  Speaker 4: them off Twitter. He doesn't send the Twitter link, he
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  Speaker 4: just copies the text and sends it to our football
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  Speaker 4: group chat. So every week I get two or three
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  Speaker 4: new completely unhinged Aaron Rodgers hype.
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  Speaker 3: What are this?
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  Speaker 2: I don't follow Rogers, I don't really.
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  Speaker 1: Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, aout, No, they got hacked.
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  Speaker 4: This is like people saying I've spent ten years betting
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  Speaker 4: on the NFL, and I can tell you one thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's about the heart of the player, and no one's
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  Speaker 4: got more heart than Aaron Rodgers and you can't count
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  Speaker 4: them out. And so I have been seeing I will
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  Speaker 4: use the word unhinged hype for Rogers and the Jets
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  Speaker 4: all summer long, to the point that it is that
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  Speaker 4: maybe it has me nervous, like are.
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  Speaker 2: They are they actually right? Yeah? And it might be
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  Speaker 2: like I was thinking Jets might win the division. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, should I pick the Jets to win the AFC?
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  Speaker 2: And don't even laugh? Like they have the personnel. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. This is what we do in July ninth,
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  Speaker 2: So Giants one hundredth year. Giants, you know, the Giants
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  Speaker 2: buttoned up shirt and tie, beautiful gala and then then Jets.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's you're watching ESPN and they've got the
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  Speaker 2: number one ranking everywhere. That's just kind of how it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Giants and the Jets, and everyone's excited for
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  Speaker 2: different reasons. And we'll see. But Hard Knocks one hundred recommend.
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  Speaker 2: I also recommencing Inside Out too. Have you seen that, Aaron?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was very happy with it.
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  Speaker 4: The New Emotions were a surprisingly successful addition.
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  Speaker 5: I love that series and I love the first one too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say I was watching that with my
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  Speaker 2: kid and I'm like so and like like it's talking
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  Speaker 2: to me right now about anxiety and all these things,
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  Speaker 2: and like I'm looking at my son, I'm like does
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  Speaker 2: he understand this? He's seven, he's smiling, he's laughing. I'm crying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching like this is beautiful. It's beautiful at the end.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a really great movie.
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  Speaker 4: Was it last episode when we talked about the Tony's
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  Speaker 4: Last Night? I Illinois again and it was just as incredible.
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  Speaker 4: I love it so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's wrapping up. I have a new hobby.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard of Padel?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, like the the European Uh. It's not pickleball, it's
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  Speaker 4: not tennis, but it's kind of like tennis.
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've played it.
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  Speaker 2: Shrigger's all in when I talk. I'm playing Aaron. I'm
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  Speaker 2: playing daily this summer. Wow, there's a Padell Court by me,
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  Speaker 2: and there's one in Dumbo called Padell House. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: giving out any free promotion. It's my sport. I have
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  Speaker 2: found my sport. I'm telling you. Andrew Schultz, the comedian,
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  Speaker 2: and I have connected based on our love for Padel.
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  Speaker 2: I have heard in recent months that James Harden is
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  Speaker 2: getting into Padel. There's a lot of buzz about Padel.
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  Speaker 2: I missed pickleball?
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  Speaker 5: Did you missed it?
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  Speaker 2: I missed it? Tennis was never accessible for me, Like
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  Speaker 2: I didn't play as a kid. I didn't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a country club guy, so I don't have access
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  Speaker 2: to that stuff here as an adult. We live in
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  Speaker 2: the city. Like it's just not Padel. Glass walls two
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  Speaker 2: on two, low barrier for entry. Everyone can play. If
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  Speaker 2: you've ever played pickleball or ping pong, you can figure
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  Speaker 2: it out. You swing a racket. I'm loving it so
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  Speaker 2: that that I might want to do a spin off
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  Speaker 2: of I'm not sure where this goes with the NFL
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  Speaker 2: and media and wherever is going, but I might have
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  Speaker 2: a career as being like the voice of Padel, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to get in on it now because I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do a hard Knocks you and I go play Padel.
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  Speaker 4: I played it once with.
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  Speaker 2: A friend where'd you play it?
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  Speaker 4: In San Diego with a friend when I was there
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  Speaker 4: watching the Super Bowl with him one year and he
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  Speaker 4: and his wife play and it brought me along and
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  Speaker 4: I played with this other person who they knew, but
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  Speaker 4: I was so used to tennis, and the whole time
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  Speaker 4: they're part there, Like friend who was my partner was like,
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  Speaker 4: it's actually not tennis.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, because you want you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to hit it on the so here it is,
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  Speaker 2: it's got walls and you're supposed to hit it off
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  Speaker 2: the wall in the bounce, but you want to hit
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  Speaker 2: it straight and they're telling you let it hit off
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  Speaker 2: the wall first.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't register for me. I couldn't figure.
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  Speaker 2: Something cool about it right now. And Djokovic had a
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  Speaker 2: statement that, like you know, tennis is losing a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of the market share after a Wimbledon match. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Padell, if you're listening at home, padel
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  Speaker 2: p A d e l. Go watch it on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: Go watch it on videos. Shrigger's all in. That's it,
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  Speaker 2: And I think Aaron I would love to play with you.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, let's go. I'll rewire my brain out
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  Speaker 4: of tennis for it.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, with no further ado, let's get
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  Speaker 2: to our guest. One of the great young offensive minds
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  Speaker 2: in football. His career is cool. Started off as a
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  Speaker 2: as a great college quarterback, was in the NFL, and
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  Speaker 2: then had like this like Valley in his career where
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  Speaker 2: he had to figure things out. He's going to take
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  Speaker 2: us through it. Actually went from being a college football
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  Speaker 2: stud to an NFL player who working for Pro Football
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  Speaker 2: Focus for a few years analyzing quarterbacks and then eventually
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  Speaker 2: tagged along and got on with their Los Angeles Rams
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  Speaker 2: as the coach, and now he's a new offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: of the Atlanta Falcons. Let's go listen and get to
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  Speaker 2: know Zach Robinson, the new OC in Atlanta, our guest today,
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  Speaker 2: is one of my favorite young minds in football. An
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  Speaker 2: offense coach, but is someone who played the game and
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  Speaker 2: has coached the game on many different levels and is
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  Speaker 2: now in a brand new home. He is the offensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons. Mister Zach Robinson, how are you, man?
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  Speaker 3: Greg's great to see him, man. How's the summer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, summer has been wonderful. Summer has been great. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about you. Like it's not negative. It's not
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  Speaker 2: that I dread it, but there's like you see the
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  Speaker 2: sands of time the hour glass, and I feel it
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  Speaker 2: now or after for July fourth, it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: it's football time and everyone's kind of getting them. Do
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  Speaker 2: you feel that as a coach, like Eric, can you still.
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  Speaker 6: Be Yeah, you're not in chill mode once Once the
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  Speaker 6: fourth of July hits like after that like I was
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  Speaker 6: on the golf course yesterday and I couldn't stop thinking
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  Speaker 6: about first day of training camp and like what we're
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  Speaker 6: going to do and the installed.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 6: Those first couple of weeks you feel like you got forever,
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  Speaker 6: and then once fourth of July hits man. You are
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  Speaker 6: football mode. But it's a good thing. You're always excited
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  Speaker 6: to go back.
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  Speaker 3: But you definitely feel the anxiousness of getting started.
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  Speaker 2: You were in LA as a coach since twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: all the way up to last year. Family still in LA.
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  Speaker 2: I always find this interesting, like when the transition is
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  Speaker 2: or when the school year ends, do you guys move
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  Speaker 2: to ed Le? Like where are you guys now?
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  Speaker 6: So we got out here entirely too fast if we
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  Speaker 6: were to do it all over again, so you know
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  Speaker 6: the story about you know, sure we'll probably talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: But my wife came out like three weeks after I
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  Speaker 6: got here. So I got here the first right before
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  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, and then she was out at the
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  Speaker 6: end of February, So I mean it happened fast. We've
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  Speaker 6: been in Airbnb's, you know, doing that whole deal with
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  Speaker 6: like two kids under two, which is an absolute nightmare.
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  Speaker 6: As you can imagine. But we made it through. We
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  Speaker 6: got into our house finally a couple months ago, so
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  Speaker 6: we're all all settled in. But yeah, we we were
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  Speaker 6: looking back at it, it's like, Okay, if we were
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  Speaker 6: to do this transition again, probably waiting a little bit
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  Speaker 6: to get the house figured out before you just send
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  Speaker 6: the whole crew out.
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  Speaker 3: But made it work.
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  Speaker 6: Thank God I got a good wife that could put
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  Speaker 6: up with all of it because it was you know,
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  Speaker 6: it was a big change.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you guys had a big week when
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  Speaker 2: you got the offensive coordinator gig in Atlanta. We'll go
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  Speaker 2: through your career and all that, but can you just
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  Speaker 2: take everyone through the personal and the career of that
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  Speaker 2: that wild few days in Zach Robinson's life.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you were on it, you knew about it right away.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I'll try to get the shortened version of it.
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  Speaker 6: But so, my wife was very pregnant, due date was
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  Speaker 6: coming up. Raheem was going through all the interview process.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he was interviewing with everybody. He hadn't had
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  Speaker 6: a you know, it wasn't solidified, and he was going
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  Speaker 6: to Atlanta yet. And so my wife's this is like, say, Sunday,
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  Speaker 6: like January twenty first, like right around there. And so
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  Speaker 6: you know, I was fortunate enough to get a few
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  Speaker 6: other you know looks and and some interviews and those things,
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  Speaker 6: and I was supposed to fly out to some places
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  Speaker 6: and I had to kind of you know, say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: guys like wife's do any day, have to put those
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  Speaker 6: on hold. And so fast forward to Thursday, Raheem gets
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  Speaker 6: the job in Atlanta. You know, the all the hoops
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  Speaker 6: that you still got to jump through to you know,
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  Speaker 6: make that stuff official, and all that stuff there was.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I had a good, good idea I was
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  Speaker 6: going to go with Raheem, and we've talked about it
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  Speaker 6: for a long time and so so.
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  Speaker 3: Fast forward to Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: I'm actually on the phone with Sean at our house
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  Speaker 6: and won't get into too much detail, but basically, get
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  Speaker 6: off the phone with Sean.
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  Speaker 3: My wife comes out and I'm like, I'm like, you
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  Speaker 3: look like we got to go, like.
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  Speaker 6: We we got to get like we got we got
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  Speaker 6: to roll. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but
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  Speaker 6: I don't I don't think. I think we got to
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  Speaker 6: keep it moving because I don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: We got to the hospital fast forward, you know, two
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  Speaker 6: hours later and really, my my agent, Kyle McCarthy.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny, say my agent, he's like my best buddy.
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  Speaker 6: So he's I'm texting him like, hey, going to the
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  Speaker 6: going to hospital, you know, let me know what's going
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  Speaker 6: on with all this, and so he's like, hey, don't
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  Speaker 6: worry about it, like I won't bother you. Just take
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  Speaker 6: care of the business whatever and we'll figure it out later.
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  Speaker 6: So of course Kyle's texting me like all throughout, like
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  Speaker 6: when we're at the hospital, I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: You send me a market yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So it's like say three, like around three fifteen, our
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  Speaker 6: son Cooper was born, and then I mean couldn't have
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  Speaker 6: been fifteen. Twenty minutes later, Kyle texted me. He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: you're good to go, give me a call. I get
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  Speaker 6: a FaceTime from raheem, I get some other calls for
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  Speaker 6: some other people with the Falcons, And I mean next
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  Speaker 6: thing I know, like me is my wife's still like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the doctor is still like so that I
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  Speaker 6: had to call some of the other coaches that were
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  Speaker 6: involved with you know, interviews.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it moved so fat.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I still get crap from my wife like
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  Speaker 6: to this day, she's like, you were on the phone
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  Speaker 6: twenty minutes after our.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Some you know, so I'll probably never hear the end
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: of that, but I.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Think it's a I think it's a great story. I
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: think it's amazing. It's the start of a new life,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: a new life and real terms and a new life
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: career wise for the family, and here you are in Atlanta.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I love that story. I think it's cool. Wow, you've
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: been a great coach for the Rams for many years.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: We've seen that McVeigh tree get picked apart, especially on
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the offensive side. Now it's your opportunity. You leave with Raheem.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: But let's start from the beginning. Grew up in Colorado,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: but you were a stud quarterback at Oklahoma State and
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: so good that you guys finished the regular season and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you had three thoy sixty four passing yards, twenty five touchdowns.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: You go to the Senior Bowl, the whole deal, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you go to the Patriots and have an NFL career
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and bouncing around little Patriots, Seattle, Detroit, Cincinnati until twenty
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: thirteen or after three years in the lead, you say, Okay,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go on and explore their options. Getting
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: to the NFL. What kind of experience was that for you?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And then when did you know did the league tell
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you or did you yourself say, Okay, I think this
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: thing is over.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I was, you know, lucky to be around some really
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: good players, Oklhoma statement does does?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Bryant was my receiver. I mean I would just closed
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: my eyes and throw jump off Ken.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: We have Brandon Pettigrew, Russell left Tack. I mean we
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: were stacked. So you know, we had had some good
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: teams there my last like three years. And then, yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: I always wanted to play in the NFL.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Didn't know how realistic it was.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: I was always a little bit more of a kind
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: of dual threat, Like I ran a decent amount in
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: college too, and at that time it was still like
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: the big pocket passer, like all the guys that were
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: getting drafted and so ended up, you know, luckily getting
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: drafted late late late to the Patriots.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: And then was just kind of scratching a calon to
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: stay on a roster, to practice squads and so, like
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: you mentioned, bounce around to four different places and four years,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: ended up having an elbow issue. And in my time
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: in Cincinnati, so had Tommy John. At that point, I
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: kind of knew, you know, it was probably gonna be over.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: You know, if you're a third string quarterback and you're
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: in year four and you haven't elevated yourself to a backup,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: I mean they're looking for that next crop of guys.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So I wasn't. I was very aware of it. Always
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: wanted to get into coaching.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: I always liked the one on one, you know, coaching
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: with quarterbacks when I was in high school, working with
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: younger guys, when I was in college, coming back and
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: working with the high school guys when I was in college,
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: working with our younger guys. So I always enjoyed that
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: kind of one on one training with quarterbacks. I started
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: getting that going as I was rehabbing my elbow after
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I was done playing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: You know, you're you're at a point where you're like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: do I want to go into coaching? Am I Like?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Am I good with this? Or should I try something else?
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Like I did a couple job shadows at like a
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: commercial real estate company, and I was like, no shot,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Like I got to have football, and so ended up
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: reaching out to Pro Football Focus. I love this, just
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: wrote an email. I hadn't really didn't know anything about him.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: This was in like you mentioned, like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: so they're still relatively you know, unknown at that point,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: but I knew they had access to film, and so
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I was like, all right, how can I pair up
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: you know, working with some college quarterbacks and Andy Dalton
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: was a good buddy.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: He would work with him in Dallas in the off season,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: and so how can I pair that up with you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: still having access to film and just seeing around the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: league and around college football and watching quarterback play.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: So I actually heard back from Bobby Slowick. He was
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: the first person that called me with people.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Funny, where was Bobby at the time he.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Was at Bobby was at PFF.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: This is amazing to me. So in Cincinnati, Ohio, you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: got this pro football focus for the listeners. Today do
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of analytic teams used them. Chris Collinsworth eventually
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: purchased them, and now it's a you know, you see
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: it everywhere PFF Pro football folks. But at the time,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it was one of the first groups that were like,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: let's put numbers and analytics together. But you're right, they
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: had all the film and teams would pay a high
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Premium one hundreds of thousands of dollars to get their data,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: but they also rely on them because they would watch
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the film. So Bobby Slowick, who is now one of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the hot offensive coordinators in the league, down with Houston
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and CJ. Stroud and you, who at the time were
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: just you know, an ex player who's looking to find
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: his way. You guys both were at PFF in twenty thirteen.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: This is fascinating.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so Bob, Bobby and I ended up working closely
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: for a couple of years and then this is amazing.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this. I love this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Is Bobby.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: He's twenty something.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Bobby's I think we're about to say it. He might
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: be a little younger than me, like maybe, right, So
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: we're all we're probably let's say, like twenty ninth, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: somewhere around there. And uh yeah, So Bobby and I were,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: you know, breaking down coverages, watching film, just doing stuff
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: underneath the PFF umbrella.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: But also you know.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I'm sure like like I was doing just kind of
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: had my own stuff with watching film, making you.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Guys in the room. Were you guys in the same
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: room watching stuff or was.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: It he was in Bobby was in Cincinnati. I went
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: up there a couple of times.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I was living in Dallas where I was rehabbing my elbow,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and so so we would hop on calls all the time,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: and I love this talk.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Through coverage, you know, everything that was pertaining to the
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: stuff with PFF, and then we would obviously have our
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: own conversations just about football on the.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Side as well.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: So so yeah, I kind of just kept up with
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: around the league stuff with PFF right after that. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: then you know, I knew you know, as you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Shreg's like you got to have a wife that's like
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: all in on, Like okay, So I met my wife
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: and I kind of mentioned I was, you know, wanted
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: to get into coaching.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, of course, like this UD had
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: no idea, what it's your passion. So she was ultra supportive.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: And and then yeah, I was actually training quarterback easton
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Stick North Dakota State, Yeah, with with REP one and
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: there was a connection there with Sean I McVeigh and uh.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: In that group, and so I got an interview.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: With Sean and and then uh next day got got hired,
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: and uh, you know, obviously always gonna be forever grateful
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: for Sean gave me that first opportunity, but definitely moved fast,
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: you know, from that whole whole time of hey are
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: we you know, I'm working with PFF, I'm training guys
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: on the side, and okay, now.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: We're in it, we're coaching, and so it definitely was
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: a whirlwind. But shoot, it's been it's been awesome.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: When you're at PFF and you're doing all this stuff,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: did you ever feel like imposter syndrome or like you
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: weren't in the cool crowd you're on the outside, Because
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's a humbling thing to be like, all right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be with a team, I'm not
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: with it, but like I'm with this other organization. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: when we go to the combine, remember you and I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: met when you were with PFF at the time, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Zach Robinson the former player, You're like, yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of course, And I'm like, how cool is that? This
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: guy's like this is my access in it's not the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: traditional route. Did you ever feel doubt going there? Like
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you were so self confident that this is just what's
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: going to take for me to get to my path
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to coaching.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: You know, of course you want to be in the mix,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and that was the hardest thing. You're in the locker.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Room like as a player, and you just missed that
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: aspect of it. And so there were times where I
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: was like, man, I got I got to just jump in.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: I had some opportunities to go to college, and I
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: really wanted to coach in the NFL, and so I
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: knew that as long as I was staying close to
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: the game and staying up with things that, you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: hopefully an opportunity would come up. I was at a
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: point where, you know, before I got hired with the Rams,
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I was I was like, all right, whatever opportunity comes, like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: we're going And so yeah, a couple you know, college
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: like Oregon and a couple of colleges that I was
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: looking to go to if I didn't.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Get a job with the Rams and Sean.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: So but yeah, absolutely, you miss like just being with
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: the guys, Like that's why you want to get into coaching,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: is being a part of something you know greater than yourself,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: working towards a goal with a bunch of guys. So yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I felt there was some imposters to them, you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: for sure, when I was working with PFF.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And you get there and the Rams guys love you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Who's on that coaching staff those first couple of years.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I know it's been a rotating door, but let's go
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: through the tree just for the listeners can realize the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: brain trust that was in the building.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Talking about unbelievable guys to be around and learn as
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: a young coach coming in like you're a player, but like.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You really have no idea until you get into it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: So my head's spinning. You know, there's so much to learn.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: But I worked with Shane Waldron. I was an assistant
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: quarterback coach. Shane was a quarterback coach that first year.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Wes Phillips was on staff. You had Aaron Kromer, Kevin
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: O'Connell comes in the next year in twenty twenty, you
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: got Liam Cohen, who's one of my best buddies. I know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: shoot you and I you, Liam and I have had
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: some good times together at Sean's wedding.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And then you've got like Thomas Brown comes through.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many guys, so many great coaches
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: that you're learning a ton from, like West Phillips to
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: this day, like I can, I can still hear some
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: of the things that I would hear Wes talk about,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: whether it's with the tight Ends or in the past game.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And so you're around a bunch of good.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Dudes, all love ball, all with the same mindset and
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: just forever grateful to be around those guys, and those
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: guys just open up everything and to somebody that really
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: you know, you think you know, but like.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I said, you just have no idea until you're actually
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: What Sean's special sauce that you try to take with
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you That all these guys work for them and they leave,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: they go elsewhere, but there's never any bad blood and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it always feels like they take the best attributes that
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: he has. What what did you learn from McVeigh all
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: those years watching him run.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: A room, most dynamic person as you know srace that
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: you'll you'll ever be around, you know, as a leader
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: from that standpoint point, The way that he can pull
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: guys together, the way that he can get the best
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: out of everybody, whether it's the top guys at the roster,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: bottom guys at the roster, a young coach, older coaches everybody.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: There's such an urgency with Sean. Uh, you know that he.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Wants to be the best that that just rises everybody
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: else in the building to his level, and so.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Always will be forever, you know, grateful for the.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Things that you know, whether I realize at the time
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: I was learning from them, but now that I have
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: kind of obviously been away for a few months, realize like, oh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: those little things that maybe I didn't really know at
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the time are kind of creeping into my head about
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: something that came up in twenty twenty one or twenty
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: you know, just different, different experiences. Obviously was there for
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: five years, so got to see a lot of had
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: a lot of you know, ups, and there's obviously.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Some downs as well that just come with the game.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: But but yeah, just so dynamic, the urgency, and then
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: obviously the way that Sean sees the game is unique
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: and it's you know, the best in the fell in
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: terms of, you know, how he can package plays and
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: put together a game plan and then feel the flow
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: of the game as it's going as a play caller,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: and so all those things that you know, most people
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: hear about, but being able to see it up close
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: and just see him operate on a day to day basis. Shoot,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: there's going to be things that fifteen twenty years down
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: the line, I'm going to.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Be still pulling from Sean. You know.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's funny. I talked to him obviously, and that Super
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Bowl season was such a ride, and there was so
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: much pressure and it was so cool to watch like
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the Rams like actually finish and seal the deal, especially
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the way he did in the final drive, and you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: guys getting contributions from Ben Scaralna good like just figuring
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: it out and just piecing it together with Odell out
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, injury issues everywhere else and still getting
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: away to get the super Bowl last year twenty twenty two.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Down year, but there were some learning things. I think
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Sean had more fun and I could tell that this
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: team really enjoyed the twenty twenty three season almost as
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: much as the Super Bowl season, being there first and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and having no expectations going into the season. People talking
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: about the Rams tanking for Caleb Williams and no where
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a couple of months removed. But just like how cool
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was last year's ride getting to the wildcard rat and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: almost beating the Lions in their building.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: It was a blast, Like just the reset that it
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: took from that twenty twenty two season. Like you mentioned
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: to showing up that first day of the twenty twenty
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: three offseason, it was like, hey, like, we're attacking this
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: thing and we're going to go all in.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: We're going to be there for each other every single day.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: And Sean's resiliency through the whole thing was obviously spread
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: throughout the building and it was a blast.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Though we had we had fun. It was obviously you
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: got Matthew.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Stafford and his level of urgency raises the entire building
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: as well. He played out of his mind, you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: especially down down the stretch there, and then just you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: obviously Puka and the way the offensive line played and
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: the way that the defensive defense played. I mean, you
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: go into that season and you're looking around and you're like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: man out, how's this gonna all come together?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: And the way that that Rod got those guys going
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: on that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Side of the ball, It was just a cool It
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: was something like you mentioned, like the twenty one season.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously that's that was pretty special.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: But I think we'll always remember that season, those guys
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: that were in it, and just knowing that feeling of
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: what it was like starting that offseason. Uh, and then
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: just the messaging that was so consistent throughout the year
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: from Sean and from from the.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Rest of the staff that it was a special year.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Still wish we could have obviously kept going there, but
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: that was a tough atmosphere up in Detroit.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Man, that place was rock down as an unbelievable game.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Give me a good Pukah story, Like when did you
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: know that this kid, Puka Nakua was going to be
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: a special fifth round pick out of BYU. There's a
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: little buzz in training camp, but then yeah, one of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the greatest seasons we've ever seen from a rookie receiver.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Like in the spring, you saw like his aggressive hands.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's got unbelievable hands. Like Stafford I remember
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: always to be like, I feel like I can throw
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: the ball as hard as I want to when he's
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: five yards away and he's just gonna pluck it. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: so that comfort for a guy like Matthew who's going
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: to put it into some tight windows, You're like, okay.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: And then you see him moving around and he was
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: slipping a little bit running some routes and he's learning, uh,
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: you know, just the route tree that that he's going
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: to be asked to do in that offense. And but
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: really I think it was like the first couple of
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: weeks of camp, like you saw once the pads really
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: came on, you saw how physical he was, and you
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: saw just like just his mentality day to day when
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: he was playing football, like he he just was an
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: absolute dog. And so him on game days, like I mean,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: you've seen his hair like it's going everywhere.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Like there'd be times where.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Like he'd be sitting on the bench like this and
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: he's got he looks like wolverine like coming down.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Out and you're like, Poka, you gun. He's like yes, coach,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: you know, and you're just like, oh, this guy. Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: So he's one of those guys that the lights come
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: on and he's just a football player and.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: He's he's a great player.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Obviously, you've got relationship chips all over the league. Raheem Morris, though,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he taps you on the shoulder and says, hey, let's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: let's take whatever we got here in LA and let's
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: bring this juice to it Atlanta. Come with me. That's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a big decision to leave, but you did. You took
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the leap of faith. What's Raheem bring to the table
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And how excited are you to start this new chapter
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in your career?
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Don Pumps to work with Row and E's offices were
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: right across from each other for the last three years,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: so we're constantly popping in and out, Hey, come check
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: this out. And so it was really able to learn
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: a ton from a defensive perspective from Raw. But then
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: you know, most people know that he coached receivers, but
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Ros's got a great offensive mine as well.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So that's what's exciting for me is the first time
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: doing this knowing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: That, you know, I got a head coach and a
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: guy that first of all, I love being around every
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: single day, and you know, Raw, like guys that know him,
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: it's like he's never had a bad Day's best dude ever.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Agree, might be the most charismatic person in.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Football, honestly, maybe that I've ever met. And I think mc.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Veigh would say that too, like Sean would say that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Both those guys together, I mean, you
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: can't get a word in, so you just sit there listen.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: But but not Rod's the best and great defensive mind,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: but I'm he loves offense, so it's fun.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Shoot, we're texting a couple of weeks ago, Hey what
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: if we did this on this and so to have
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: that from a head coach going into it for the
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: first time knowing that I'm going to have some blind
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: spots that need to be filled. Pump to work with Rock,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: continue to keep learning from him the way that he
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: sees the game on both sides of the football Situationally,
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: he's going to help me out a ton. So definitely
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: pumped to get a going and knowing it's going to
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: be a fun work environment no matter what through the
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: ebbs of the flows. Rod has not changed from day
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: to day, so it'll be it'll be fun fun season,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: challenging of course.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: But definitely excited to work with rob and the rest
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: of the guys.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: All Right, So the Falcons offensive roster, I mean, I
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: think of the first team since the fifties. I remember
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the stat the draft to draft a skill position in
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the top eight, like four straight years you get Pitt's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: in London, b Jehan, Robinson and now Pennix. When you
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: look at this roster on paper, and then we're gonna
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: get into what you're seeing on the field in the spring.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But like this has to be a dream commetry you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: also have Algier the other running back who I love
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that at BYU. They guys can can gobble up yards.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: If you guys have a loaded roster on offense, it
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: just hasn't all come together yet. That's a great place
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to walk into.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: No, one hundred percent, definitely very fortunate to walk into
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: a situation like this doesn't happen very often.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: The one thing that we weren't sure about, you know
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: obviously when Rob got the job and we were coming
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: with him, was the quarterback.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I got solved with signing Kirk.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: And so if you were to say, which job is
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: the best job out there, and Kirk Cousins is a quarterback,
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: You're like, I mean, it's it's obviously a no brainer.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: It's a really good spot to be. So very lucky
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: that we got some great guys. The guys here personnel wise,
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: you know, Terry, Kyle Smith, Ryan Pace, those guys have
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: done an unbelievable job. As similar to roster, it's a
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: bunch of great guys that love football, very similar to
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: how it was set up in LA.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Just like gys that love ball. You know that are
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you know, really talented?
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: So uh, you look at John you look at Drake,
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: you look at Kyle Pitts, and then the offensive line
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: is really what makes that thing go.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: And so, uh, guys, yeah, I mean you go left
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to right. Jake Jake Matthews looks like he might play
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: another ten years.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Honestly, I mean he looks great. He's had an unbelievable career.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Matthew burg around the left guard, second year out of Syracuse.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: He's going to continue to make sures. Expect him to
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: be one of the better guards in the league. Drew Dolmen,
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: the center from Stanford, fourth round pick. We loved him
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: in LA when he was coming out and so and
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: then you got the best guard in football in Lindstrom
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: who his his work ethic and just the way that
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: he plays the game is just like he doesn't have
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: to say anything, but you see hit the way that
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: he plays and that raises everybody's level.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: And then you got big Caleb McGarry over there, the
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: right tackle, who's a monster. So having that that solidified
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: is his big time, especially for you know, for the
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: QBS and for for us in the game. You know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: being able to hold up up front, we should be
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: able to run the football. So there's a lot of
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: great things, got a long way to go. It was
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: pumped about where we left the spring off. But shoot,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: as you know, and you're one of the system, like
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: there's there's so many things.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: To cover, and so we still got a long way
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: Wish we could actually start tomorrow just to make sure
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: we get everything going, But we got we got plenty of.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Time, long way to go. First, you're in the system,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and yet no one has seen it on film yet,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: which gives you an advantage as well. Bjean Robinson, just
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: take a minute to just what you looked at in college,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: what you looked at last year, and just I have
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to imagine when you're an offensive coordinator and you're given
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: something like that, that talent passing game, the running game,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the blocking game, like you have to be just like,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: how do I limit my usage on this guy because
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I want to use it every single play?
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, one hundred percent. That's that's that is Honestly,
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: it's a it's a good problem to have.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: But you're exactly right. But the first time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: I saw Bijeon was we had a bye week in
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, went back to Oklahoma State. They were
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: playing Texas that week. Had a bunch of family that
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: was there, so went to the game. Had known Bijon
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: because I watched a ton of college football, but seeing
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: him play in person, I was like, you can give
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: this ball and you can get his got a ball
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: every single play and he's gonna make a play. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: I think he had one hundred and fifty yards rushing
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: over fifty yards receiving.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they end up losing the game. The Yewers
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: threw a few.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Picks in Oklhoma State won, But that was my first
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: time seeing him play in person.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, this guy's, you know, gonna be an
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: unbelievable pro.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: And then seeing him up close, you know, he was
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: a little bit banged up in the spring, so we
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: only got to see just a couple of weeks of him.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But he'll be full go, ready to go once camp starts.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: But you just throw on the tape from last year
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: and his ability to make guys miss and there's really
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: nothing he can't do.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But it's still.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Priority is like, hey, you're a running back, we can
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: certainly use you out of the backfield as a receiver.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: I mean he can run wide receivers routes, but you
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: just obviously don't want to overload him too much, like
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: you were kind of alluding to, but excited to work
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: with the John's a great, great guy, just loves ball,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: like he's watching Christian McCaffrey and watching running backs around
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: the league. Like he has that mindset that he wants
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: to be the best. So looking forward to uh, you know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: to give the ball as much as we can to John.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: For sure, Kyle Pitts a real early pick for a
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: tight end. What's interesting with him is that, like he was,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He's got these high expectations. I'm not for sure he's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: ever going to reach what people expected of him, but
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: he still puts up numbers, he still has good season.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, are you excited to get your hands on
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts and kind of get the most out of him?
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: I think Kyle is excited to First of all, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: he was banged up a little.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Bit last year, so he was, you know, battling through
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: some injuries. And but from.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: The jump, right when you know we got the job here,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: Kyle was like one of the first ones in the
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: building coming It's up to raw saying you know, sitting
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: in my office hanging out with t J. Yeats and
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Kevin Koger new tight end coach like he was around
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: in you know, March and before the guys even got there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: So his level of urgency, he wants to take that
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: next step. He wants to be a complete tight end.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I think it's underrated how good of a blocker he
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: actually is. You know, you see, you know the receiver skills,
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: but you know, when he wants to put his hand
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: on the ground and block, he can do it. He
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: wants to he wants to do it all and that's well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: that's what we'll do with him.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: But excited for him to take a big step.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I know he's he's chomping at the bit to kind
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: of get some a little bit of a bad taste
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: out of his mouth from last year, which a lot
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: of it, like I said, was injuries, but no pump to.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Work with him. Seeing the rapport that him and Kirk
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: got going during the spring a little bit was encouraging.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: So it's all positive for Kyle.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go through the timeline real quick.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You get the job in January. February's the combine March
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you guys signed Kirk Cousins April's to draft. Do you
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: remember like the fifteen minutes at the combine with Michael Pennix?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Is there a fifteen minute meeting like I I just
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: take me through the Cousin's pick and then when did
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you have a feeling that, Okay, Pennis, there's something to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: this kid if he's there at eight as well?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we u So we sent so TJ.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Yates and ken zaymps went to the combine and interviewed
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: all those quarterbacks. So we you know, videoed it and
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: we ended up watching it later on that night after
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: we interviewed. Mike had known about you know, Mike just
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: from watching college football and obviously Washington was on a
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: ton over the last couple of years, and I mean
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: you're seeing all the explosive plays that him and those
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: three receivers are making, you know, all over the place,
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: and so you know, you're studying the film and you
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: signed Kirk, and you're you're so pumped about that to
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: have a guy like Kirk that's, you know, comfortable with
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: the system, obviously playing some of the better football that
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: he's he's played throughout the last couple of years really
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: his entire career, So look forward to him, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: continue to do that. And then the ability to add
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: Mike was unique obviously, you know, we felt felt strongly
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: about it. Uh in that position. I think it's been
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: well documented. Just the ability for him to sit and
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: learn and watch and soak everything up before he would
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: have to play whenever that ends up being was a positive.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: But you know, I remember watching the Texas game, uh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you know that they played, and he was he was
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: lights out in that game. And then you really start diving.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Into the film and you're watching it throughout the spring
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: and uh you're seeing kind of you know, how things
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: could piece together with this offense, and you got Kirk
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: and then you know, being able to add Mike was uh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: you know, too too good to pass up. So pumped
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: to have both those guys because shoot, as you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: like you got you gotta have, you gotta have one,
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: you gotta have two and and so we feel great
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: about both those guys there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: But people were going bonkers after the pick about how
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: ridiculous it was. But if you didn't have a pass
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: rusher ranked as high as Panix and he's sitting there
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: at eight and you like him. You gotta thinks coming
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: off in injuries thirty six and you know, the last
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: few years in Atlanta, they've been in kirk quarterback purgatory.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: That's how I looked at it. And it's all right.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Now we've got two options and one guy for the
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: long term future. Now that's easier said than done as
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a coach. There might be some egos you have to
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: massage a bit too. What has been a dialogue with
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: those guys in the quarterback room or it's it all.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Just been cool.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone's been understanding of the situation they come in or
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: did you come in with a game plan being like
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I want to get Pennix's reps during the spring and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get him going, But we have to focus on Kirk.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: He's our guy.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, No, everything has been Taylor round Kirk like that
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: is that is where we're going, That's what's that's what
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: we're doing. And Mike is such a humble guy. Kirk
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: obviously one of the best guys I've ever been around.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Just in life.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: So those two guys could not mesh better together just
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: because of who they are as people. And so Mike's
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: come in, Uh, he knows you know where he's standing,
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: he's got a long way to go. He's learning, He's
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: observing Kirk with everything he does. Mike doesn't have to
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: say a bunch of meetings. He's just listening to Kirk.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: And then he's got a great way of knowing when
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: to ask something and when to just kind of take
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: a step back and let Kirk go.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: So their dynamic has been good.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: You're constantly competing, whether you're competing against the other guys
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: on other rosters or the guys that are currently on
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: your roster, like that brings out the best in everybody,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: and that's shoot, that's goes for you, that goes for me,
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: that goes for everybody. So whenever you have that good
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: competitive urgency, you know it's a good thing. So both
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: guys will channel out the right way. But like I mentioned,
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: both just like humble guys a lot of fun to
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: be around and obviously super talented and a lot of
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: fun to just watch play quarterbacks.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So it's good.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I love watching left handed quarterbacks. Has Penix unleashed a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: pass in camp or around the facility at any point
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: where you're just like, oh, that's just so pretty. Because
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I saw him at the combine I took a video
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: of it him in like the hotel, just like whipping
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: these perfect and then a yeah, yeah, dude, Like it's like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, if it's a lefty
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: or if it's the way he releases the ball. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: think he's already got one of the prettiest passes.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: In all of football.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And I watched it for many years at Indiana, then
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: of course Washington, like seeing it up close Pennix, just
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: letting that thing release with that spin. Is it that special?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, He's a pure pere thrower, as pure of a
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: guy that I've been around, just strictly throwing the football.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: There's been times where you know, he makes something happen
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: and you're kind of looking around, like.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Man, that was a pretty special throw.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: So he's definitely got that going for him. He's got
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: some great instincts, sees the field.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Well, so but like I mentioned, got a long way
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: to go with this whole thing. But he definitely definitely
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: can throw the football, and that's one of the reasons
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: we were excited to get him.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And Kirk has taken it in stride, and Kirk's in
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: the right place going into July, I would imagine as
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: a training camps advance.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Kirk had a great great spring really took you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: especially for us as new coaches coming in and when
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: you have a quarterback that has as much.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Experience as he does, especially in the system.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, there were days that Kirk just grabbed the
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: entire group when we couldn't be out there with the
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: guys and he's taken guys through jogg throughs and he's
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: coaching them up on the routes. And so the comfortability
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: that you know I have and the rest of the coaching.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Staff has with with Kirk.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: And how he can just his ownership just with everything
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: that he does and his intent behind everything.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So he had a great spring. Was fun to see
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: him and washed him for so long.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, always just respected the way that he plays the
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: game and the way that he sees it and how
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: he can click through progression and how accurate he is.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: But then you finally see it up close and you're like, man,
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: there's some days you come off the field and like
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: everything's gonna be fine because this guy. As long as
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: we distribute the field and you know, have sound schemes
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: running the football, throwing the football. This guy can make
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: a lot of things right. So it was really fun
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: to just finally get working with Kirk and we'll just
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: continue to build that rapport with the rest of the
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: guys and I'll get, you know, continue to get a
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: feel for what he likes and those type of things.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So it's all really good. Though.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It's cool that you have a veteran quarterback. I feel
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: like you and Stafford spoke the same language, and really
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: since he got to the Rams, of course, Kevin was
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: there and then you took over that kind of role
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: in his ear with Sean. Of course, Like the connective
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: tissue is not so Kevin O'Connell and you work together.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's just coach Cousins the last several seasons. Raheem
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: probably was on staff in Washington when Cousins was there,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I would imagine, right, yes, yep, yeah, and McVeigh was,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you know, on staff there as well. So this is
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: no like there's enough connective tissue where you and Cousins
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: have so many people in common that this has to
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: be pretty cool that you could finally get together and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: now instead of having rookie quarterback, which you could have
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: easily had as a first year offensive coordinator in slow
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a cadet last year. It's no, I've got thirty six
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: year old veteran who has seen it all and also
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: knows a lot of the same people that I do.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: No, we've been able to talk about different relationships with
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: guys or what they called something in Minnesota. Hey, we
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: call that here and call that this now, and so
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: that's been so easy to talk with Kirk about, you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: football stuff, but also just.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, Chris O'Hara was his quarterback coach, and so.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I know Chris O'Hare, you know, just different guys that
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: you've been around. Hey, what was Wes Phillips like? What
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: were some of the jokes Wes Phillips told me, you know,
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: just some of the little little stories that that are
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: just easy to make connections.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: So, no, it's been it's been great to have Kirk
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, having a veteran guy that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Can't wait to just see his his career continue to
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: go because he's he's playing. Before he got injured last
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: year and you know, Peter, he was as good as
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: as lights down back in the league. So I'm excited
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: to see him just kind of keep that going all.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Right, A couple of rapid fire questions as as we
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: wrap this. This has been awesome, your best Des Bryant story.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You were his quarterback in college, an absolute freak show
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: in college and in the NFL. When did Dez show
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: you that this guy is a step above everybody else
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: on the field?
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Right when he got there as a true freshman and
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: we knew who he was coming in like as players
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: were like, oh man, like this guy was a four
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: star recruit and he could.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Have gone a number of different places.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: We end up snagging him, But that first summer, he
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: would always be like the first guy out on the field.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I always went out there early to start warming up, but.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: He was like him and I would like almost be
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: out there at the exact same time. And he just
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: loved to play catch, loved to throw, loved to catch.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: And so that's when I started kind of getting a
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: feel for him. And you know, he would run some
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: routes sometimes where like he would change his tempo. Like
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: I remember throwing him like an in cut, like a
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: twelve yard incut, and he came out of it and
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: I thought I was putting it at a place, you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: right out in front of him.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: He ended up speeding up and just to.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Catch it like one handed on his shold, like totally unnecessary,
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: but his routes on air and he's just showing off
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: like the stuff he could do. And obviously the stuff
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: above the rim that he could do was unlike really
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: anybody in college football.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Man it was. He's a special guy.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: But he loved football, loved just playing catch. During the summer.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: I think that's where our report really kind of skyrocketed.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: We just I'd throw something up and see what he
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: can do. He could you see the spots that he
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: could get to it, and but yeah, he just he
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: just loved throwing and catching, being around football.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Just total ball guy.
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: And then as a competitor, I haven't really been around
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: many guys like Daz.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I had Kellen Moore on last summer and he was
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: talking about his favorite Matthew Stafford throws when he was
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: his backup in Detroit. Your favorite Matthew Stafford pass if
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you can go through them all, whether it be big
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: clutch passes in the playoffs a couple of years ago
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: or something you saw in camp, what's your Stafford memory
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: of just the freak show that is Matthew Stafford.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: I mean the Super Bowl, no look is in that
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: moment was unbelievable. I couldn't believe how he can no
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: look those with receivers going from right to left and
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: his eyes being this way and throwing it that way
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: while still keeping the ball out in front.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I mean some of those that you.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Would see in practice every day. Matthew and I were
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: teammates in Detroit in twenty ten as I was, you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: making my way around, and.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget. He was injured the first year I
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: was there, and that was the reason I got to Detroit.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: He separated his shoulder.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: I was with Seattle on their practice squad, so Detroit
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: claimed me off of waivers, and so I.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Was there the rest of the season. Matthew wasn't playing.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: But then fast forward to training camp or yeah, to
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: training camp, and that was the first time I got
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: to see Matthew really play up close. I'd seen him throw.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: We went to the Man camp together. I see him throw,
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: you know, up close and personal for the first time.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: When I was a.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: Sophomore in college and he was going into his junior year,
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: and I was like, that looks different than anything I've
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: ever seen, and so I went back and I was like,
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: I got no shot at playing in the NFL.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: This is what it looks like.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: But I do remember one throwing specific when I was
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: in Detroit with Matthew Calvin Johnson was basically ran in
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: like a corner pump and it was a cover two look.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Matthew looked off the safety one way, looked off the
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: safety the other way. Calvin did his job on the
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: route and I was standing right behind it, and this
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: ball went seventy yards in the air, perfect spiral, Calvin
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: just instride, and I'll never forget what that looked like
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: coming out of his hand.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: It was just like seventy yards superhuman?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Who is that against? We'll have the clip.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: We no, this was this is just in practice training,
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: can't practice. Was just I was like, you know, something
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: you just never see. But some of the ones in
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: games last year, yeah, there was so many. There were
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: so many throws he had, but that one definitely sticks
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: out just as a player watching it and knowing like
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: what it's supposed to look like. Obviously, no pure thrower
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: in the history of the game really has been.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Matthew Odell comes a couple of years ago and he
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: comes with all this hoopla and then he gets there
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: and it's just like an awesome player for the Los
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Angeles Rams, and really, I know the love that that
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: franchise has for him for the one season he was there.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Odell, your memories of Odell, and maybe
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a good Odell story.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he you know, came in and right off, right
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: off the bat, like just fit in with the guys,
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Like didn't really know. You don't know what somebody's like
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: until they're actually in the building, whether that's coach, player
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: or anything. You can hear whatever you want, but as
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: soon as you get to know, the guy just brought
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: a ton of juice to our to our offense. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: mean just obviously he's got the most swag in the
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: history of the game. Maybe, but he came in and
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: there was you know, a little learning curve those first
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks for some reason.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: You know, I was playing catch.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: Like pre game one day, and uh so then from
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: that point forward, like I was kind of your game
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: throwing guy, and so the stuff that I would see
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: from him in pregame warmups, like obviously he wasn't doing
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: like with the Giants, like he was going to the
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: back of the end zone and doing all that. At
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: this point, he was just a little more casual, but
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: still you know, pulling in one handers but.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Not jumping, you know, like he was back in New York.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: But I do remember throwing.
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: A ball to him in pregame warm ups before the
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: before the Niner game.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: The first game he was there.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: And I was standing on the right side the pregame
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: warm ups like we're on the team, period, but guys
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: are kind of you know how the tempo is in pregame,
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: and he's like, Hey.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on this one a little bit. I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: was like, all right, And so I.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: Throw him a go ball on the right side and
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: he's running and he's tracking this thing and I'm like,
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: it's it's over his outside, Like when.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Is he gonna I'm like, when is he gonna? When
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: is he going to adjust and and do this?
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: And he just keeps striding like this, and then he
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: just goes and he just plucks it with his right
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: hand and just keeps keeps going.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I like turned around and as Zero Everro was standing
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: back there like what the hell was that? You know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: like we just that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: The ball skills that he had. I've never seen like
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: an athlete like him. Like we play catch, I'd throw
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: it to him, he'd throw one back right handed. Next
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: time you'd throw one left handed. Yeah, next time. Next
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: time you would punt it right footed and it'd be
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: like perfect, And then the next time you would punt
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: it left footed, it would be I mean, he just
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: got some unbelievable just hand eye and he's just a
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: great athlete. But he brought so much juice that season.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Man, he's freaking. He's just stud.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Loves football but also loves fashion, loves soccer. I still
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: think he's like the NFL's renaissance man. And I was
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: in Miami, so I'm curiously how that goes. But like
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I thought, I loved the odell Era in LA and
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I know how much you guys appreciate him.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. He was a big reason where
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously we're able to get there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Last couple the big pass to Cooper Cup that Stafford
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: throws against Tampa and the playoffs, where were you for
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: that pass? And what'd you think when you guys actually
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: pulled that off?
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, first of all, great call by Sean
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: going tempo in that moment, ball was out of bounds
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: on the left side on Tampa sideline, and Sean, you know, typically, hey,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: out of bounds two minutes real, let's huddle up. Sean
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: had a feeling.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: We ended up just getting right on the ball, and
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: so you know, it's well documented as a cover zero.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Look, I was standing. I always stood kind of even
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: with the with the ball based like a little bit
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: behind it, and so you're kind of watching our guys,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: You're watching the back end, and you saw it went
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: to you know, cover zero, and you're like, you know.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Right away, you guys aren't freaking out like covers like
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: This is Yeah, it was like it was like a
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: but it happened so fast that you're kind of just
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: like hoping that you see it right like and you know, yeah,
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: you know he's gonna see it because he sees everything.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: But yeah, that the ball traveling through the air like
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: once Matthew spotted it, and you know, obviously the trajectory
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: and the ball that he threw, the ball seemed like
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: it was in the air for like ten seconds, but
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: obviously drops in the bucket. But yeah, definitely was a
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: memory all always you know have and we'll always have
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: just how that happened. Seeing the juice that Matthew had
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: after completed that coming to the sideline like he said
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: some stuff. I was like, you were in a dark
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: place man, like he was. He was feeling it, and
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: so it was. It was pretty cool. That locker room
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: celebration was awesome. But yeah, what unbelievable play by those
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: two guys in that moment to make that happen was
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: pretty cool.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: That rivalry you guys had with the Niners these past
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: several years, and you go back and forth and then
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: finally you guys beat him in the playoff game and
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: then they go back to the Super Bowl and it's
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: it's heated. Now you're in the NFC South, Is it
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: strange for you to be like, all right, I need
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: to kind of readjust and there's now three other teams
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: that I have to kind of look at and be
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: like those are our chief rivals or that does that
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Niners logo still as we sit here in July just
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: just rub you wrong.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: No, it's that's not that those games were so physical,
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: so intense.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: You knew the week leading up, like he was like, man, okay,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: balk of your Chintz straps. It's you know, playing the Niners.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: That'll always kind of just just the way that those
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: guys play football and the way that Kyle.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Gets those guys going.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: You know, no matter if you're in the division or
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: out of the division, you always got your eyes on
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: the Niners. But yeah, it's definitely been different resetting than
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: seeing this group of guys that feel like, you know
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: Tampa pretty well, just we played them so many times
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: in the last handful of years and then played in
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: New Orleans last year.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Carolina don't know much about.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: But it's cool because we do have some coaches on
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: staff that I've been here for the last three years,
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: so I'm you know, I'm looking at it like, hey,
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: who's who's fifty nine here, and they're able to kind
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: of give a little bit of a scoop on on
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: on different players and so, but yeah, it's different resetting.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: You know that you get to know that division so well,
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: you're there for five years. You know the Cardinals, you
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: know the Seahawks, you know, you know the the evolving
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: you know door that's come with the defensive backs for
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: the Niners, and so learning a new you know, a
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: new division, is definitely gonna be a little bit different,
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: but it's also you know, good challenge at the same time.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Last question, we are now a week really a week
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and a half away from stepping in there and giving
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the first you know, training camp, team meetings and all that.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: As we head towards your first season as an offensive coordinator,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: your first season with the Atlanta Falcons, what would be
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: your message to Falcons fans about the offense that they
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: can expect.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're you know, anticipating playing an exciting brand of football.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: We want to play fast before the snap, after the snap.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: We want to play physical, we want to be aggressive
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: at all times.
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: We want to play with greatergency, we want to mix
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: the tempo. So hopefully we can put this thing together.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: Got a great group of guys to do it. Got
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: a long way to go, got training camp, and we
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: got to get just our identity and our foundation really set.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: We left the offseason, like I mentioned earlier, in a
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: great spot. Now we just got to pick it up,
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: and that level of emergency just got to got to
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: crank up a little bit. But I can expect, you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: we're gonna throw the football, We're gonna put the ball
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: in the air. We're also gonna be able to control
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: the ball, run the football hopefully. So it should be
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: an exciting season and we can't wait to get going.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Should I take b John Robinson first overall in fantasy football?
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Would that be the thing about fans? I hear you me?
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: Neither.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I tried. I tried making a statement that would like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: go viral.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I don't play fantasy either.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: It was a bad attempt, but I mean probably, I mean,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know why not. He's good.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good Zach Robinson. This was so fun. Thank you
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: for the hour. I also think we learned a lot.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: The PFF stuff is really cool really as we wrap
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: anything you've taken from those days that you apply today.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's certain you know, data that you might look
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: at that you kind of like, you know, you're you're
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: obviously you know football is football, and you're always going
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: to learn off the tape, but there are some things
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: just from a data standpoint that that you can look
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: at that might that might help you out. But the
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: way those guys really opened up your mind to looking
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: at football in a different way, which I think is
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: always cool. Like nobody's ever going to be stuck. There's
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: there's not just one way to do it, and so
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: just seeing kind of their perspective from a you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: analytical side.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: And some of the siveness, whether it be on fourth
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: downs or you know.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: Two point whatever it might be. Those things creep in
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: your mind a little bit knowing what you know the
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: PFF analytics might say, but you're obviously going to make
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: those judgments based on different situations and it's not just
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: a black and white thing. But definitely grateful for those
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: guys and Neil Hornsby, who founded PFF, was instrumental and
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: just you know, my development of just watching football and
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: being able to have the access to everything the PFF had.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely taking a lot from those guys for sure.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: So cool.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I'm wishing you so much luck. You've got about fifteen
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: days or maybe ten days left. Go enjoy two kids
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: under the age of two and a new home in Atlanta.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Tell your wife she's a rock star. Zach Robinson, thanks
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: for joining the podcast.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Man, Thanks, Rake, appreciate you.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Zach's awesome. I love the storytime element of all that.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: And Aaron, I'll bring you back in like that cup
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: pass that Stafford has. It's not going to go down
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: as like the David Tyree helmet catch or the Santonio
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Holmes in the back of the end zone. But to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: those guys in that organization, that play is forever, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: for those fans, that one is forever. And I love
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: how he knows exactly where he was standing the coverage.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: How Sean McVeigh instead of you know, taking your time
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: after you know, an out of bounds play in a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: two minute drill, was like, no, no, get to the line.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Like all those details this is now three years removed
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: and they're still crystal clear. For Zach Robinson, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean that's sports like that that story, him remembering exactly
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  Speaker 4: how he felt on the field seeing the ball, like
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  Speaker 4: him saying like it felt like the ball was in
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  Speaker 4: the air for ten seconds.
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  Speaker 5: I loved that. That was that was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think he danced around the Cousins Penick
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  Speaker 2: stuff or was he pretty much straight? It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: it's not even an issue there. But you know, if
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  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins starts out oh and two and they there's
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  Speaker 2: two interceptions in both games and Pennix lights up the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: like I have to think there's some fans who are like,
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  Speaker 2: let's see our rookie quarterback. We drafted eighth overall.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about two games in, but he did
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  Speaker 4: a really good I mean, he said they've tailored everything
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  Speaker 4: to Kirk, which makes me think that they've tailored everything
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  Speaker 4: to Kirk and he's going to be the quarterback. But
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  Speaker 4: he also, like you know, pointed out he loved watching
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  Speaker 4: Penix throw the ball, So there's definitely some optimism and
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  Speaker 4: potential there. I would say it's probably not the rookie
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  Speaker 4: quarterback I expect to see first. By any means, Falcons
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  Speaker 4: aren't this like that was the word.
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  Speaker 2: They're not a sexy pick right now, new coach, new quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: no one knows what to expect. But when you do
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  Speaker 2: lay it out and you list all those offensive players
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  Speaker 2: and you realize that they're bringing a new offensive coach
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  Speaker 2: who just was with McVeigh and has all these different
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  Speaker 2: bells and whistles to them, and they have a new
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  Speaker 2: defensive coach and Rahie Morris and I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: an offensive line guru, but like, I didn't think that
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  Speaker 2: their offensive line is the best in the game. The
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  Speaker 2: way he was talking about it is Atlanta the sleeper pick,
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  Speaker 2: Like this is what happens. You talk to these guys
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  Speaker 2: and then you start thinking yourself, like, I know, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: we have a long way to go. He's set in expectations,
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  Speaker 2: but like what if Beejon Robinson's unleashed, and what if
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitt stepped up? And what if Drake London played
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  Speaker 2: like a top ten receiver? And what if Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 2: is like has been like, yes, they can compete in
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  Speaker 2: the NFC.
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  Speaker 4: That division really doesn't need someone to be incredibly sexy
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  Speaker 4: to win too. Like Tampa, you know, just did well.
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  Speaker 4: We've got some turnover there as well. And they I
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  Speaker 4: think like just because they didn't draft the speediest receiver
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  Speaker 4: in the first round this year, or they didn't as
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  Speaker 4: rush yeah, like a huge pass rusher. I do think
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  Speaker 4: that people are probably downplaying how good they could be.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think they have we probably have like
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  Speaker 4: take hangover on them that we've been so excited about
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  Speaker 4: the happins every offseason and we are so disappointed all
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  Speaker 4: the time.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not be suppointed, let's be positive. Let's every team's
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  Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. It's July ninth, We're in on
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  Speaker 2: all every team.
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  Speaker 5: And we're all getting invites to next year's White Party.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm done. I'm telling you I don't want to go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go. If he invited me, i'd
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  Speaker 2: say no.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I did see the video of Odell like getting dancing
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  Speaker 4: on his way to the car to take him to
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  Speaker 4: the White Party or something that showed up, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: It's great so far.
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  Speaker 5: I only know about it through you. Now I have
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  Speaker 5: to admit.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's over.
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  Speaker 2: We got through it, all right with no further ado.
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  Speaker 2: Let's wrap this thing. I like that, no further ado,
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  Speaker 2: Let's wrap. We'll see you next week. The Season with
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  Speaker 2: Peter Schrager, Aaron Wankoffman, thank you, Jason English, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Grusso, thank you, and all the folks on the
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  Speaker 2: West Coast who are listening, and US fans and listeners.
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  Speaker 2: It means a lot that you listen. Let's get a
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  Speaker 2: couple of viral Instagram videos going from this podcast, and
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  Speaker 2: let's go from there. All right, boys.
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