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Will Robbins: Christ Is My Caddy · Why I Believe

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Hello and welcome back to Why I Believe.
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Today I have the honor of having Will Robbins with us.
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How are you doing today, Will?
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Amazing, yeah, great to be.
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Awesome, thank you for being here.
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Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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Oh, a little bit of myself.
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Originally from England, came out to the United States at 17 to play college golf and played two years in Pearl Beach, California, and then two years in West Palm Beach and
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then played professionally and then had a change in my career and ended up coaching the game and now spent the last 20 years coaching golf and helping other golf pros around the
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world to sort of shift from the real sort of standard in
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of lessons into more of a coaching model.
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Yeah, that's great.
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I love how you just kind of breezed over how to change your plans and started coaching.
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It wasn't just the change in plans.
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Like you had your life turned upside down.
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Yeah, for sure.
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It was the last day of our honeymoon.
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We were planning what to do for that day.
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you know, whether we're going to hang out by the pool, we were going to go to the beach.
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And the next day we were flying back to America to our new home, to our new puppy, to our new life.
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And then I was going to go to the Canadian Cue School to go and qualify for the Canadian Tour and start my journey towards playing professional golf for a living.
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And then everything changed.
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Everything changed.
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So why don't you tell us where you were on your honeymoon?
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So we're in Phuket, Thailand.
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We're on the island of Koh Phi Phi, Don, which is a little island off of Phuket.
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And we were just, yeah, hanging out on the beach, uh enjoying 10 days of just amazing time in Thailand.
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Yeah, and that was back in 2004, right?
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2004, yeah, December 26th.
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Yes.
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Why don't you tell them what happened that week?
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From your perspective.
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Yeah, so that week was Christmas Day the day before.
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We just had an amazing time celebrating Christmas.
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Next morning woke up, which is Boxing Day for us in the UK.
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uh we're just what we're going to do for the day.
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We'll maybe hang out by the pool.
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Maybe we'll go on a boat.
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And we were just sitting in the hotel lobby, just hanging out, just enjoying ourselves.
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And then the next thing you know, everyone was screaming.
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Every direction we looked, everyone was screaming and running around.
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And I didn't really know what was going
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going on.
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To start with, thought maybe everyone was excited to be there and then very quickly realized that that wasn't the case.
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They were deathly afraid of something.
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And my brain went to terrorism.
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We just had the barley bombing.
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There'd been, you know, the 9-11 was just three years earlier.
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And so terrorism was now in our lives.
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And so my thought is, you you got to hide.
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You need to find a place to hide.
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Well, everybody jumped over the counter and ran out of the building.
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We jumped over the counter and hid in an office, uh not realizing that.
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you know, maybe several hundred yards away from us, the Sumatra earthquake had triggered the tsunami and there was a 30 to 40 foot high wave coming across the island, destroying
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everything.
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And we decided to go and hide in an office.
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And we got on the ground, started to pray and my wife looked at me and then there was just the largest explosion, you know, just the loudest noise I've ever heard and the room
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started to shake and just rumble and it was just the whole hotel collapsing on itself.
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And my wife yelled to me and looked me in the eyes and said, this is it.
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And I said, no, it's not.
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And the second I said that, the wall from my right went straight through me and I went straight through the wall.
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She went straight through the ceiling and we were underwater, tumbling underwater with no idea of what was happening.
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Didn't know it was a tsunami.
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Just knew that I was basically experiencing the end of my life, just tumbling inside of a hotel underwater as I experienced the pain and the fear and the overwhelm of, of
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realizing that this uh was the end of my life and yeah, it was a crazy, crazy journey.
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Yeah, so let's take that back a second.
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So you guys had no warning.
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There was no warning that that tsunami was coming.
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Do you know how long it was between the earthquake and then the tsunami happening?
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Yeah, it was about nine o'clock in the morning in Sumatra when it happened.
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So I think their time zone was actually a couple hours earlier.
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So we were probably about four, maybe three or four hours before.
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And then the sound wave moves about 700 miles an hour underground, under the earth, you know, and then that goes under the water.
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And then next thing you know, around about 10.30 in the morning, that's when I hit our island.
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Wow, that's terrifying.
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You we always think like, there's going to be some sort of warning before a major crisis, but there's not always that warning sign.
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No, no, there was nothing just people screaming and next thing you know, you're underwater and just this is the end of my life.
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I can't believe it.
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I can't believe it's the end of my life.
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um And then realizing accepting it was and just the end of my life was like, this is it.
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This is how I die.
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And my final words, won't repeat them exactly how I said it, but it was something to do with I'm going to die fighting.
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um It had a other word in there that I
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Yeah.
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Right.
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the second I said that I popped up in the middle of ocean and I was on the other complete other side of the island.
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I'd have gone the whole way across the island and several hundred yards out into the middle of ocean.
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And uh I looked to my right and my wife was about three feet away from me, alive, screaming in a lot of pain.
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She had a triple pelvic fracture and was really struggling, but we were both alive and we're out in the middle of ocean.
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Now what a miracle.
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First of all to A, survive this tsunami because there are hundreds of thousands of people who didn't.
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But then to pop up next to your wife.
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Yeah.
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It was a blessing, but not a blessing that I could really take in at that time because the next thing you know, the next wave is coming.
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So now we're getting dragged back over the island.
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So was, you know, multiple waves that come across.
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so it wasn't like we've made it.
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It was like, oh God, you know, now what's going to happen is we're getting pulled back onto the island inside of all the trash, all the houses and the hotels are all in the
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ocean.
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We're just getting crushed like a trash compactor and we're getting pulled back onto the island.
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so now it's, if we go under,
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because we'll never get back up.
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And thankfully there was a young man there by name of Marcus Melberg and he was standing on a little mini boat, little long tail boat they call them and we just yelled and
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screamed out to him to save us.
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And he gave up on looking for his whole family, his mom and dad, his brother and his, sorry, sister and his brother-in-law, threw a rope to us, tied it around my arm and then
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he dragged us up on top of the water which was really on top of all of the material and put us onto the boat.
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ah and then we spent about nine, ten, eleven hours out in middle of ocean just going from different boat to different boat watching the island get destroyed watching fighter planes
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fly over the top of us and starting to try and understand what had happened you know like what level of destruction had happened because you don't know if it's an atomic bomb you
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don't know if it's an earthquake there's no signal there's no communication there's no phones there's no internet there's nothing so you're stranded on an island in the middle
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of nowhere
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wondering how long will it be before you get saved.
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um
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and you know what's next while my wife is on the ground you know is unable to stand on a ends up on a wooden door being carried from boat to boat possibly paralyzed which thank
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god she wasn't but having no idea of what would happen that day but around about 10 o'clock at night that night uh a big fishing trawler took us all into all the injured
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really badly injured people into Phuket
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to the hospitals, which unfortunately were completely empty because, well, empty of drugs, they were full of people, but empty of any more, know, I think because it was too, you
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know, it had been 12, 14 hours since the tsunami.
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they'd used every resource they had, but they were just there to...
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to basically support us and do a little bit of some sewing my ear back and I got to like, my ear was lacerated and stuff like this.
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And so minor things that they could do were just moral support and put us on beds and.
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My wife and I spent about two days there.
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My wife had paracetamol for two days with a triple pelvic fracture.
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I had a few broken shoulder bone and short collarbone and a lot of lacerations and things going on, but compared to how everybody else was, I was doing fine.
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I was doing really good.
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uh But yeah, it was two days that we were there and we finally got medically evacuated by plane up to Phuket, out of Phuket up to Bangkok.
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And then I spent
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31 days in hospital and my wife spent about 40 days and then we uh got medically evacuated back to the United States and yeah had to restart life.
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Yeah, restart life in a totally different way.
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It wasn't just go back to what you thought it was gonna be.
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Life as you knew it had changed.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, I couldn't play golf and I was going back to play golf for living.
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My wife was a school teacher in California.
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She got laid off when she was unfortunate.
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um You know, that wasn't great.
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Our insurance company dropped us.
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You can still hear me though, yep, the sound's still over the other sound, still there.
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Shows that it's still counting on my end.
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It cut out just a little bit, but it still shows that it's still there.
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Are you there?
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Okay, I don't know what happened, but it looks like we're still recording.
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Yeah, it shows it's still recording.
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It's uploading as well.
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so I'll have to edit some of this but okay that's weird.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so we got back to the States, unable to play golf.
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My wife got laid off as a school teacher just because the California, it wasn't anything to do with her.
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Just they were out of, didn't have enough students.
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And so yeah, it was a complete shift.
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know, we were on a lot of drugs and a lot of pain, lot of PTSD.
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lot of surgeries, a of just trips to the doctors every day and hospitals and stuff like that.
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And so, yeah, it was a tough way to start a marriage, but we were alive and 238,000 people weren't.
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And so we were definitely super just blessed and grateful.
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you know, coming back on a journey to sort of start to rebuild our lives.
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And that's kind of where the coaching part came in for me.
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So a friend offered, know, would you like to start teaching?
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My thought was no, I want to play golf, but I couldn't.
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So I started coaching and God had a different plan for me and I think he chose pretty well.
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Yeah.
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So how did you guys keep the faith through all of this?
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Knowing what you've been through and you know, I'm sure at some point you had to say, why me?
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Why did this happen to us?
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Right?
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And then also on the flip side, why did you survive it?
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Yeah, I never really asked that question.
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think never asked why me never asked why I survive.
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You know, I don't think it's a it just it's I suppose when it's so major when a quarter of a million people die and you don't like it's not it's not the same as like
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I would imagine a survivor's guilt of a car crash and the person next to you died, but you didn't.
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It's like, it's so random.
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Like, how did that happen?
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Whereas this was so catastrophic.
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was just like, was just never asked that question.
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Why me?
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I'm just blessed.
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I'm just blessed that God pulled me through.
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I'm no better than anybody else that died that day.
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I know there's nothing special about me.
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And people go, Oh my God, it's such a miracle.
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How amazing that you survived.
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And it's like, it's a miracle that God saved me.
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Why he
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saved me or, you know, that's just, that's out of my realm.
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So I've never really asked it.
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But as far as faith goes, you know, I wasn't actually a Christian at the time I was reading a FCA, no, it was a college gold fellowship Bible while I was on the island, my
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brother in law was a youth pastor.
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And he'd given me this, this Bible and I'd started to read the gospel and I was sitting there reading the gospel just thinking my goodness, like this, this Christ guy, like he,
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he, he, he gets it like, and here I was about to go and play professional golf.
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and I just heard everything in my mind was golf-centric, right?
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So was like, when I play, my thought was if I had him caddying for me, if Christ was alongside me, caddying for me, and he was saying to me, let my light shine, right?
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You don't have, you ye of little faith.
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All these things that he was, you know, if you want to gain the world, you've got to give it up.
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In golf, the harder you try, the worse you play, right?
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And so, so much of it was...
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making total sense to me um of just what he was talking about.
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So that's really like, you know, my ministry is Christ is my caddy.
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And that's kind of where it started the day before the tsunami, just sitting on the beach there and understanding like, who Christ was.
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I mean, I grew up in the church a little bit, you know, and I was christened back in England, Church of England and stuff.
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my mom and my dad read the Bible, the gospel, stumi and stuff like this.
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But then I just, you know, went off on my own track.
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And then I would say that for me, unfortunately,
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you know.
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God got us through all of that, but then bit by bit I just grabbed it all back because I was like, okay, God, thank you.
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Now I need to run a proper business.
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Thank you, God.
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Now I need to go ahead and play professional golf again.
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Thank you, God.
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Now I need to be responsible now.
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Thank you for all the help.
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can't rely on you because that would be irresponsible.
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I need to rely on me again.
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And so I just went back and grabbed my own life back.
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And within five or six years, my business was fantastic and I became a very successful coach and had a very successful business, but internally was absolutely destroyed.
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know, and someone who's gone through and lived through something like I would, they'd say, well, if I ever had cancer, if I ever lived through that, I would always be positive for
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the rest of my life.
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I'm like, no, that's just not how humans are.
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That's not how I am is that I can just be selfish any day of the week.
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And the minute I'm selfish, I get more self-centered, more selfish, more full of self-pity.
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And I got to a place of just being completely broken.
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Like I was just internally, externally had everything I wanted.
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Wonderful wife, wonderful house, played golf, know, coach golf, played golf, made great money.
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But on the inside, I
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was just in pain, so much pain, so much frustration, so much hurt.
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And for me, my out was always alcohol.
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was just like, have a drink and it will all be good.
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And then my way back to Christ was through AA.
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And AA, it's not a religious program.
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It's a spiritual program based on a understanding, God of your understanding.
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But when I went there and I uh went into a group because of my
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best friend went into it and I was like, what is he doing?
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Like if he's, he's not an alcoholic, because if he's an alcoholic, I'm definitely an alcoholic.
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And it was amazing because within, you know, two or three weeks, I realized I hadn't thought about drinking, had drunk in, in three weeks and had no thought.
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And I tried for, ever since the tsunami, I had to want to stop drinking.
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I was always in headaches, pain, and I didn't even enjoy it anymore.
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I hated doing it.
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Like it wasn't even fun.
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And I couldn't stop.
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And I tried everything.
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And here I was, no thought about
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alcohol.
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I never had that in my life.
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And very soon, you know, I started to ask myself, okay, well, if this God of my understanding, I just asked him to remove the desire for alcohol and it went like that,
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that's a miracle.
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And I'm not going to make up a name for this person or this thing.
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I want to know who that person is.
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And so that was where my journey started.
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was uh meeting with a pastor from a local church where I still meet with most Mondays and just asking tons of questions and like, seriously, this whole lot?
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this Jesus thing, this Bible thing, is this real?
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And bit by bit, just challenging every question I had, just challenging it and then coming back with like, whoa, that's amazing.
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I didn't know the answer to that.
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Wow, I didn't know that.
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And then completely changing my thinking, uh be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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And next thing you know, I was like, okay, yeah, I trust that Christ is my savior, he's my Lord, and I want to surrender my life to him.
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And so, yeah, was all 16.
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which was my parents' wedding anniversary actually.
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Back 2016, I handed my life over to Christ and just one on that journey of messing up daily, know, continually, but really realizing that, you know, when I take my life back,
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I'm in real trouble.
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Even when I have the most success, I've been blessed with amazing success with my companies and the success I've had as coaching, but it's so easy to grab it back.
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you know, I heard the other day,
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I would have listened to my church with my kids and it was saying how Satan doesn't want to, Satan doesn't want you to follow him because you know you wouldn't, all he wants you
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to do is follow yourself so you don't follow God.
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So if you become an up on then I won't need And that's where end up in real trouble because then everything's a problem and everything's a worry because it's all my money and
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my house and my success and my business and my kids and my house.
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And it's like, well, how's that working for you?
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I'm miserable and I'm frustrated I'm angry.
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versus it's all his and I'm just trying to be a good steward and I'm not a good steward because half the time I forget to tidy up and I forget to look after it and stuff but he's
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not asking me to be perfect he's just asking me to give my heart to him and follow him and just fail daily but fail daily towards him so that's kind of like you the journey for me
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which has just been an absolute miracle which was going through so much but in the end of it you know being able to you know to know Christ
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and beyond that journey is the biggest blessing.
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Yeah, I gotta really say you guys have tested your vows a little bit, huh?
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For better and for worse, sickness and in health, right?
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Between the tsunami and then the alcoholism and...
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How has your family's faith played a role in any of this?
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So when you converted, were they already on board or did they come on board after?
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What does that story look like?
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all my in-laws are Christians.
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My parents are Christians.
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Actually, my dad gave his life to Christ.
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m
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Father's Day like, uh...
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What is that about three years ago, three or four years ago, it very emotional that day.
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was a crazy day.
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anyway, that was that was an amazing one.
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And again, I think my brothers know Christ, but yeah, just trying to lead from a position of just, you know, of just attraction, AA, they talk about attraction rather than
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promotion.
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And I think that's something that the church needs to do a better job of because you go to an AA meeting, you don't go in there and go, I got my shit together.
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No, you don't.
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You're absolute disaster.
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But I look at the people in the room and I want what they have.
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You know, they're calm, they're at peace, they're honest, they can accept themselves, they have a higher power, they're service for others.
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And I think that that's attractive.
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And so, you know, for my family, just trying to continue to attract them to, you know, there's so much with the Church of England and the Catholic Church and all this that you
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can find all the problems, but Christ came to break that.
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came to say the Pharisees were wrong and he came to say the Sadducees were wrong.
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And so we've done that again, you we get into religion, into the relationship.
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And, know, to me is helping them understand like what the gospel really is and what are we looking for is we're looking for mercy, we're looking for forgiveness.
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You know, I mean, like we're not looking to be righteous, we're not looking to earn our way.
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We can't do that.
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And so, so yeah, it's a blessing to get to share with them every Easter.
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I always do a sermon on Easter on Zoom and they're all back in the UK, you know, and get to share with them and just share, share.
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beliefs and my journey with Christ and just continue to see growth through them.
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Obviously my kids, you know, and my wife, and yeah, we enjoy our time together, church at the house, you know, just going through our Bible verses, and we go to our church as well,
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but yeah, just a lot of time in prayer, a lot of time and just...
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You know, honesty, you my kids know all about my journey.
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They know about all my craziness and all the stuff, because I want them to realize like, you know, the minute you take your own life back, you're to be a slave to something.
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You're going to be a slave to something.
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You can be a slave to Christ.
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You can be a slave to alcohol, drugs, money, whatever you want to choose.
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You can be a slave to it.
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um So, you know, to me, that's sort of, you know, the honesty that I want to bring to them is helping them to understand it's like, you know, there's, there's one that we can serve
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the right way.
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There's a lot of things we can serve the wrong way.
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Thank
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Absolutely.
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And I think one of the things that stuck out to me when you and I had the chance to meet uh back in New Orleans about a month ago, and I was telling you about the podcast and I
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was telling you what my plan was, and I said this one line and it stuck out at you.
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Do you remember what it was?
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I got my notes right.
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Yeah, okay.
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um
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said we're going to talk about.
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Good.
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So we're gonna talk about modern day miracles, faith in the middle of real life, which we've lived, Identity beyond achievements.
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Identity upon achievements.
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Yeah, I'm trying to find that.
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out of everything you said, Michelle, that was your best line.
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uh
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where is the identity of achievement exactly?
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And I think that is.
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That's like on a daily basis, what I help players with, right?
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Their struggle with, just want to prove it to everybody.
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I'm like, well, that's going to be tough.
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And then you can say, I want to prove it to Christ.
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And he never asked you to prove it to him.
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doesn't need you to play good golf.
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He doesn't need that.
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it is, is a real struggle for all of us, right?
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To not get into that achievement mode.
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And so yeah, I loved it when you said that.
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That was extremely powerful.
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And I think it's so true.
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think there's a lot of us that are high achievers that are really, that we tie our identity to our achievements instead of to our origin and to our roots where it really
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needs to be.
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And I think for me anyway, once I realized that's what I was doing and I really developed that relationship with Jesus and with God.
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And then that's when I found that peace that you were talking about that you were looking for, right?
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That's when you get that peace and serenity that everyone talks about once.
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But I think that is so important that you are doing that every day in your work as a coach.
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I'm doing that in my trainings as a burnout strategist.
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And that's part of the reason why we have all these problems is that we're burned out is because we keep tying our identity to our achievements, to earthly things.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah, there's one.
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I think I would do here in echo now.
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Let me see if installation.
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That's strange.
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It just.
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It just started to on my.
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I'll try to clean it up afterwards.
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Okay.
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Okay, let me try...
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I want to do this, see if it changes...
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m It's not letting me change my mic.
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Here we go, here we go.
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Okay, how's that?
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no, that's wrong now.
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No, no, that's wrong.
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Now you're on mute.
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Okay, well, let me change my microphone.
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Let me change.
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I was gonna go to my other mic here and see if this.
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Does sound better?
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don't?
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That's strange, don't know where the...
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not sure where the letter came from.
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Yeah.
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That's okay.
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So we were talking about identity beyond achievement and how you're using that every day when you're coaching.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and I just think that is, that's the difficult part, right?
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Is just, you know, our identity is so tied up in that and in the world and then in the pace of things and how quick we have to go.
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And I think that's where a really, really good book a while back, we as a good friend of me gave it to me, it was The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry.
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And it sort of just talks about how the hurry is the devil.
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It's like, you just, the faster you go, I can just distract you.
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If you're distracted, I'm, we're set, right?
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Because you're just going to be too, too rushed to sit down and be calm and quiet and pray and read your Bible and things like that.
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So to me is, it's like, it definitely is one of those things of like, get in these worldly things and I got to prove and achieve and succeed and win and stuff like this.
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And there's nothing wrong with all of those, but those should be an outcome.
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byproducts, I should say, of just the process of...
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connecting with God, living out your gifts, letting your light shine, truly finding your gifts and expressing them, helping others, being of service.
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And then from that comes wealth and success and all those things.
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But so often we target success and wealth versus, what are you gifted at and what should you be doing and how do you impact people's lives?
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And if you do that, you'll probably have the outcome of success, worldly, which is money and freedom of time and freedom of money.
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Yeah.
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So what is one piece of advice that you give your students around staying true to them and to Jesus now that you've been through all of this?
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How do you tell them to keep stay grounded?
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Yeah, I would say.
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probably quite negative, but it's realistic.
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It's like you're either going to be going through a tsunami right now, you've got one coming or you just finished going through one.
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Like it's going to happen, like tragedies and difficulties and grieving and death and cancer and bankruptcy.
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And, know, and again, it can be small things.
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can be, but a huge to you.
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Do you know I'm saying?
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It might be, you know, like lots of a boyfriend at 13 years old feels just as tragic as some of the worst things you've ever experienced in your life.
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Right.
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And so to me,
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They're just challenges that shape us and we get a choice on how to shape us.
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Do we want to go ahead and go alone?
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we want to go ahead and fight the battle?
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Do we want to go ahead and prove it to ourselves?
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Or do we want to surrender and say, probably actually can't overcome this and God, need you.
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And I need you to help me through this because I can't change.
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I'm not able to change without you and the Holy Spirit making it happen.
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So I think just, I would say the lesson is that, you know, many of you are going through things that are very difficult right now and you don't see a way out and you don't see a
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light.
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uh But God's with you, the whole way, he's with you.
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And so it would be along the lines of just allow yourself to surrender.
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Like when I was underwater, I just surrendered.
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My life was over.
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I was like, that's it, I'm dead.
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I know I'm dying.
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The war is about to come in.
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And as I said that, I popped out of the water, but I'd fully surrendered.
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So it's this idea that Christ talks about, like, if you want your life, you have to give it up.
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Which now is really, it doesn't make any sense.
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It's a paradox of like, the more you hung on to the world and into life and
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hang on to success and money and pride and all these things, the further away you are from God, the more you surrender them, the more free you become, and you still have them, you
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still have that stuff in your life, you're just not owned by it, you're not a slave to it.
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So I would just say as those challenges come up, just be willing to surrender, and it's okay to drop to your knees and just say, I can't do this, because guess what, we can't.
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We can fake it and say that we can get through it, but we really can't.
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And that's where, when Christ comes into your life and really helps you through that, that's
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That's the biggest difference.
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That's great Will, thank you for sharing that.
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And I think that's true and I think that's something we can all relate to too, right?
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So we're all gonna go through something at some point in our life.
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And sometimes it's multiple things.
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And it's gonna be back to back and it's never gonna be easy.
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But there's a way, there's a choice.
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All right, well one of the questions I ask all my guests before I let them go is what is your favorite Bible verse that you're living through right now?
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Last year it was...
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definitely do not be anxious about anything within every situation by prayer and petition with Thanksgiving, present your request to God and the peace of God will transcend, the
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peace of God that transcends all understanding, God your heart and mind in Christ Jesus.
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That was definitely on my mind a lot, like through challenges.
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um Lately, I think I just read, I really enjoyed it.
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was in Psalm 56, three, and it said, so don't all your fears, know, cast
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your fears on me because I care for you.
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I think it's such a like a simple thing.
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It's like this idea of like, just my life is full of fear.
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What's gonna happen in the economy?
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What's gonna happen in Iran?
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What's gonna happen with the president?
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What's gonna happen with my money?
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Will I be able to retire?
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It's just all this.
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And it's just like, they're always gonna be there.
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That's never gonna go away.
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But I don't have to own them.
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I can just place them on crisis.
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Hey, you know, I'm really nervous about this right now.
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I'm afraid about this.
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It's just these forms of fear, because he cares for me.
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And he's like, I don't need you to hold that burden.
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Just like, if my son came to me and was like, Dad, are you going to pay the mortgage this month?
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I'm like, dude, just go and play soccer.
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I've got the mortgage.
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It's fine.
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It's good.
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Dad, can we get groceries?
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Buddy, it's going to be good.
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Just go and play the cross with your sister.
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And that's what God wants from us is like, these things, you're not in control of them anyway.
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So just hand them over to me.
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So I think that's right now, trying to really place me in the right place.
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which is again tied to not be interested about anything.
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So it's always been like another verse doing the same thing after you've got it.
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Awesome.
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Well, thank you all so much for being here today.
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I truly appreciate you sharing your story with everybody.
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It's a miraculous story at that for sure.
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So thank you.
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it.
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Thank you so much.
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Absolutely.