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Russia & Ukraine trade war crime accusations over drone strikes · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine are trading blame after a drone hit
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  Speaker 1: a black Sea resort area on Monday. A warning that
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  Speaker 1: the video we're about to share you is disturbing. Russian
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  Speaker 1: officials say at least seven people were killed when a
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  Speaker 1: Ukrainian drone went down on this crowded beach. They say
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  Speaker 1: four of the victims were children. A regional governor claims
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  Speaker 1: the casualties were caused when debris from a drone fell.
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine says the drone was brought down by Russian air defenses.
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  Speaker 1: And in a separate incident, a man in Harsan, Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: was chased by a drone. You want to warn you
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  Speaker 1: that this video is also disturbing. Ukrainian officials are calling
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  Speaker 1: this a Russian war crime. The man survived with several injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Ukrainian officials say the man is a street vendor, not
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  Speaker 1: a combatant. Let's bring in CNN's Claire Sebastian joining us
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  Speaker 1: live now from London. So this took place in the
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  Speaker 1: city of Harsan. You see this drone attack basically targeting
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  Speaker 1: a market street vendor. Just walk us through what happened here.
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  Speaker 2: Mm. So the first thing today saying is that he survived.
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  Speaker 2: He was then talking about the incident several hours later.
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  Speaker 2: He was injured, he said. But he said that during
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  Speaker 2: that incident he gestured to the drone to try and
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  Speaker 2: show it that he was only selling vegetables. And interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: he also said that this was the second time he
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  Speaker 2: had actually had to try to avoid a targeted drone attack.
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  Speaker 2: President Zelenski has come out and said that this is
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  Speaker 2: an example of a tactic that we saw a merge
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  Speaker 2: around mid twenty twenty four, what he calls a human
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  Speaker 2: safari by Russia, essentially drones seeming to target unarmed civilians
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  Speaker 2: out in the open. Now Russia regularly says, of course
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  Speaker 2: that it doesn't target civilians. We have reached out to
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  Speaker 2: the Russian Ministry of Defense on this incident and haven't
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  Speaker 2: heard back. Because this is a pretty disturbing incident. You
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  Speaker 2: can see the aftermath the video released by the Ukrainian
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  Speaker 2: authorities in that in that incident. But again, look, the
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  Speaker 2: man survived a lucky escape here. But I think this
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  Speaker 2: shed's light on the situation in Kherson. This is really
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  Speaker 2: the biggest Ukrainian city that sits on the front line.
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  Speaker 2: It's separated only by the Dnipa River river from the
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  Speaker 2: Russian forces. They are under near constant attack. Drone nets
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  Speaker 2: cover the streets in this city. This is life here
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  Speaker 2: and it's getting increasingly dangerous as Russia tries to push
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  Speaker 2: forward and if not take more territory. Obviously it lost
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  Speaker 2: Kershon when Ukraine liberated it in late twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 2: to two. It's trying to make life as difficult as
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  Speaker 2: possible for civilians still in this area.
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  Speaker 1: And also another attack, this time Ukrainian drone apparently targeting
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  Speaker 1: a beach at a black Sea resort. Just walk us
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  Speaker 1: through what happened. We understand that about three children were
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  Speaker 1: killed in this attack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean big picture of these two incidents show
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  Speaker 2: together that civilians are increasingly paying the price for this war.
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  Speaker 2: This was what the Russian authorities in the Krasnandal region
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  Speaker 2: where this took place our saying was debris from a
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  Speaker 2: falling drone. The toll is now up to seven people killed,
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  Speaker 2: quite a number of injuries as well, four of them children.
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  Speaker 2: According to the Russian Children's rights commissioner talking about this today,
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  Speaker 2: the Russians are saying this is terrorism by Ukraine. Point
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  Speaker 2: of factor is that they've spent most of the war
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  Speaker 2: calling Ukraine a terrorist state, so this sort of bolsters
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  Speaker 2: that argument. But they do also say it was falling
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  Speaker 2: debris that caused this, And now the Ukrainian side, we've
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  Speaker 2: had from the head of the Center for Countering Disinformation,
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  Speaker 2: part of the Ukrainian government saying that this was the
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  Speaker 2: work of Russian air defenses. So it isn't at this
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  Speaker 2: point exactly clear what happened here, but this is in
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  Speaker 2: the context of Ukraine escalating long range attacks across Russia.
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  Speaker 2: This is a tactic that we've really seen building over
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  Speaker 2: the summer since they announced this forty day campaign to
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  Speaker 2: try to turn around the war. Targets have started evolving
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  Speaker 2: into different areas and I think, look, it is clear
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  Speaker 2: as these attacks escalate, the risk to civilians is going up.
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  Speaker 1: Right Claus Sebastian life was there, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: We have new video in showing what Ukrainian officials say
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  Speaker 3: amounts to another war crime committed by Russia. Warning before
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  Speaker 3: we show you the video is disturbing and the man
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  Speaker 3: you will see here did survive, but did suffer several injuries. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: this is in Kershan in the southern part of the country.
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  Speaker 3: Ukrainian officials say that the man is a street vendor,
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  Speaker 3: showed no signs of being a combatant. That you saw
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  Speaker 3: what happened to him with that drone there again, he survived,
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  Speaker 3: suffered a concussion and blast trauma. This attack comes as
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  Speaker 3: it appears Ukraine's war strategy is shifting, along with hitting
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  Speaker 3: military sites and oil refineries in Russia. In the past
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  Speaker 3: two weeks, according to a CNN analysis, there have been
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  Speaker 3: sixteen long range strikes on facilities linked to an online
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  Speaker 3: shopping company called whyilled Berries. Its Russia's equivalent, if you will,
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  Speaker 3: of Amazon. Joining me now for more on this. Seeing
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  Speaker 3: a contributor and former scene in Moscow, Bureerschif Jill Doherty,
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  Speaker 3: It's good to see you, Jill. Ukraine says that wild
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  Speaker 3: Berry is this company that it was selling military equipment
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  Speaker 3: and sanctioned drone components. What do you think of this
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  Speaker 3: move by Ukraine.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's effective for the Ukrainians. You'd have to say that,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, hitting all of those hubs for this, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of Russian version of Amazon is really important because
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  Speaker 4: this is a huge company. And what the Ukrainians are
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  Speaker 4: saying is that civilians who have relatives in the fight
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  Speaker 4: or people who are in the fight in the Russian
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  Speaker 4: army are actually going online and ordering things that are
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  Speaker 4: components you could say, military components. I mean helmets, jackets,
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  Speaker 4: you know, FLA jackets, electronic components. And this is why
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  Speaker 4: the Ukrainians have decided to hit them. And of course
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  Speaker 4: it creates a lot of havoc because this is part
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  Speaker 4: of the supply chain, not only you know, militarily you
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  Speaker 4: could say, but certainly civilians. So it's really hurting them.
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  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, just a shock factor of
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  Speaker 4: having these outlets and transit hubs being hit is really
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  Speaker 4: a factor psychologically in Russia right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good point, and also hitting at Russia's you know,
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  Speaker 3: continued expanding war economy too. And then there's also what
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  Speaker 3: can only be described as more confusion over President Trump's
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  Speaker 3: promises when it comes to Ukraine. Earlier this month, Trump
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  Speaker 3: had announced and everyone took note, that the US was
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  Speaker 3: going to allow Ukraine to build its own patriot missile systems,
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  Speaker 3: that the US would share the tech so they could make
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  Speaker 3: these critically important defensive weapons. And now the presidents have
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  Speaker 3: says is not what he agreed to. The quote to
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  Speaker 3: report was it's a hard thing to give away that
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  Speaker 3: kind of technology, and be also said because there is
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  Speaker 3: a risk that quote unquote those people you give the
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  Speaker 3: technology they could someday turn on you. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: can imagine the frustration of Ukraine's leadership on this. But
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  Speaker 3: Russia hears that and thinks, what.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yes, it's easy to say what the Ukrainians think,
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  Speaker 4: but you know those people who exactly does that refer to.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the Russians are happy because if the
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  Speaker 4: Ukrainians do not get patriots, then they have a huge
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  Speaker 4: problem in defending against what the Russians are using more
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  Speaker 4: and more and producing more of, which is these missiles.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Ukrainians are very good right now, they
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  Speaker 4: can essentially knock down about ninety percent of the drones incoming,
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  Speaker 4: but when it comes to missiles, those are huge and
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  Speaker 4: they need much more robust protection, and that means patriot
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  Speaker 4: anti missile defense. And if you don't get patriots, then
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  Speaker 4: there's a real problem. Now the Ukrainians, knowing that this
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  Speaker 4: is kind of back and forth with the President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States, they're beginning to develop. In fact, they
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  Speaker 4: say that they have in development a version of that
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  Speaker 4: type of missile protection, anti missile protection. But it will
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  Speaker 4: take a while. All of this, I think the main thing.
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  Speaker 4: All of this is going to take a long time.
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  Speaker 4: So even if they were able to, let's say, get
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  Speaker 4: a prototype by the end of the year, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the bonding is happening right now and as you can
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  Speaker 4: see even from that drone footage, it is increasingly going
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  Speaker 4: after civilian targets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, terrifying that video.
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  Speaker 2: Jill.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to see you. Thank you so much.