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Making Monsters: Bears v Rams Divisional Round with CHGO's Corey Wootton · 2nd City Gridiron

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, welcome into another episode of Making Monsters.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Taylor Doll Corey.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We're enjoying me today.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know him for more defensive end.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: For the Chicago Bears now, a part of CHGO Bears, which I'm a big fan of Corey.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate all the work you guys do over there.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's always fun to listen and the tailgates out there are always a good
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no problem, it's all thanks for having me.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about a playoff when now it's been a long time since 2011 since the bears have won a playoff game and then now they do it against not only just a playoff game but they're biggest rival and the longest rival in the NFL, which I think is huge.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: You look at this rivalry, Corey and you were a part of it for a long time.
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You see how much it means to the city, to the fans, to the organization, everything.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this moment for you just watching them now beat Green Bay and twice in one season, one of those being a playoff game.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: How much does that mean to you and what you've seen from fans?
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been huge.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when I first got drafted to the bearers, you know, number one thing is you want to beat your rival and green Bay.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know we got some other rivals, you know, Minnesota Detroit, but the number one thing is you want to be green Bay as many times you can and, you know, luckily, you know, are unlikely on our end.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: and really showing especially after the past three appearances beating them twice and then you know the bears beat them the final game the season last year.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm at the four they're three in one their past four games.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's a good sign.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it brings back the rivalry because for a while.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know rivalries have to be a certain level of competitiveness and there really wasn't you know the past few years and past ten years rather.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the tide is changing, Ben Johnson, what he's been able to do and establish with his team has been incredible.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It really has.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to talk a little bit about that game and then we'll move on to this weekend and kind of what to look forward for that defensively it looks like it was going to be a long day offensively I guess to for the bit, but when you look at the beginning, I wrote the numbers down because I was like I want to see the difference between what Jordan love.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: did, you know, in that first.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, when you look at the first three possessions, he was eight for 11, 117 yards, 30 touchdowns.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next five possessions, he went three for 1124 yards, had the two intentional groundings during that time.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They missed a fill goal and they punted four times.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: What to you, Corey?
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: What was the biggest difference between those three possessions and those next five and what the bear's defense was doing?
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Dennis Allen and the defense made a great job making adjustments at halftime.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: What they really did was they were able to get pressure in timely situation, right?
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't consistent pressure, but you look at a guy like Austin Booker.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was had some really good rushes, was able to kind of fluster Jordan love back there and get the ball out quick, some errands, throws, things in that nature.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And on the coverage end, they were getting more physical with the wire receivers.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's the key thing whenever you look at when the defensive back get physical with the receivers, you know, kind of the timing of the rouse between Jordan Love and Company, so that kind of got disrupted there.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what really what I saw and they were able to stop the run as well in a second half.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, anytime you can get three, three and outs in a row,
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: you're building momentum from that offense and you know offense started to drive down the field selling for field goals but I think it you know anytime you can keep that talented offense from reimbay all the fields you see.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think and you watched them that both games before felt like Christian Watson was just that guy we kept seeing that in those first two games.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: There were still a couple in this one, but it did feel like you didn't let him burn you as much as you had last time.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of the big losses we're going to be talking about this week and obviously TJ at where it's feel awful for him.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's one of those guys that just feel like he brings the energy to the defense when he's out there.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's Marco Jackson stepped up when he's had to.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: to kind of look at that when he's had to be in that role and replace those guys.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think about that?
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think Dennis Allen's going to have to kind of shift to this week with that change?
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it's tough when you lose a guy like TJ Edwards was arguably the quarterback of the defense, a leader out there.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the one great thing is the Marco Jackson, what he does, he plays fast.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He plays physical.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He comes downhill and I think that's something, you know, even when TJ Edwards was in there a little bit coming back from the injury.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just didn't see the same consistent play that we did a year ago, same with Tramaine Edmonds right now.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not seeing that speed that we saw before the injury.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the Marco Jackson brings a different level of speed and physicality and you know, he's a young guy, he just wanted to fly around out there.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun to see him.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he brings a different element to the bearers now.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: What about the run defense because that's been another bad issue throughout the season.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were able to do a really good job actually against Josh Jacobs.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: The last two times they met, the Packers had, I think it was like 130 and 150 yards rushing something like that.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: You were able to contain that pretty well.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've always talked about Kyler Gordon and this, they kind of eased him in a little bit this week, but the nickel back in the importance of that nickel.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: corner in a dinosaur and defense, what he does in the run, a lot of different things that dinosaur and does.
• 5:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Kyler coming back helped it in that realm a little bit this week?
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I definitely think it did, but he definitely just seems a little bit rusty and like he's not.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a common theme of the Bears defense, right?
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you like it's your main admins, you look at Jalen Johnson, you look at Kyla Gordon.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're just not 100%.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We saw them before the injuries and they don't look the same people.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously when I look at Kyla Gordon, I think a big thing, get your hands on guys, be a little bit more physical, especially until you're 100%.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know maybe worry about testing out that
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he's got to be physical especially with the guys at wire receiver.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get your hands on him.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to reroute them things at that nature But it's definitely definitely great to have him on there.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He made a couple plays, but I think in general when I look at this bear's defense Defensive back.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get physical especially this week against the ram.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get physical with them especially with a limited pass rush at times So that's the key theme for me going forward this week
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're seeing some stuff that the sack, the direct sack number from Montess what hasn't really been there, but I mean, we see he had double digit sacks, but I think that when you look at the pressures, I want to say I saw something earlier that show that in the NFL wild card round he had the second most pressures, it was seven in this game, so you were seeing him to your point, make Jordan love uncomfortable and I think that's definitely something.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: you're going to have to do against Matthew Stafford, because he won't run.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Matthew Stafford's not going to move the way that you may see, you know, a Jordan love move on you.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I do think that's going to be a big play this weekend and then to your point.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you do with Pook and Koo?
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think the toughest matchups when you talk about our receivers, because no disrespect to the Green Bay Packers receivers, but these are two of the best that they'll be going against this week with Puguna Kua and the Bante Adams that's going to be a Hall of Famer one day.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the bears Dennis Allen is going to have to get creative in this game, you know, especially with the lack of past rush.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I've noticed worked a little bit better the past couple weeks with generating some pressures and some sacks is the games I like a gervan dexter and Austin Booker ran some great Texas games You know where the tackle goes first the end gets up the field in the loose back around same they didn't exit It's not a couple weeks ago as well where the end goes first the tackle goes around
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they got to get creative with that and Austin Booker lean on him.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean young guy, I still very raw, but I mean he flashes, he has length, he has some strength, he has some wiggle.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if he can take advantage of that and get in Stafford's face, I think the weather, the elements play in the bear's favor, because you know, even back dating back to Stafford's Detroit days,
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He never played that well towards the end of the season as soldier feels so I think if in pressure I'm you can hit him.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something that the bear's you know can kind of manage his game a little bit
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think the, they played a ton of man, I want to say it was like 44% man in this last week and do you think that shifts a little bit with this and maybe you see some zone blitzing type of stuff.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we were talking about in the studio, like need to take to more zones especially, just because I think, you know, the Monta has a book in the cool of their their guys that can really game break or so I feel like you have to do as much zone and really respect guys like that so I want to have a lot more zone this week.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: especially against the guy like Stafford, but yet again, Stafford's just intelligent guy, he can pick apart his own.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the key comes down to pressure.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: How is it gonna dial up these zone pressures?
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Potentially, some of these disguising it, but Matthew Stafford yet again, is one of those hard guys that he's good at everything he does, reading coverage is diagnosing some of the schemes.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the bearers, Dennis Allen and company are gonna have the answer.
• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you expect that secondary to look at when it went look like we'll see I guess with CJ Gardner Johnson and the concussion he obviously wasn't able to play this last week but you have Kyler back you have him and a Sean Wright we've seen all the Tyrex Stevenson and what's going on with that but you do think maybe a little bit because of these guys not being 100 percent healthy and a little rusty maybe a little bit of a rotation between some of those.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would like to see a rotation.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I felt like Tyrex Stevenson in the time he's been in.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was one play that he loves very badly when Jordan and Graham will, I think we all saw that.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in the coverage, he's done pretty well.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think you got to give him a shot on some of these plays just because he looked at the Montaíadas and Pucca and the Cua, they are great players.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But,
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stevenson, the one thing that separates him from the other defensive backs, he's more of a physical guy, but I think he's somebody that can get the hands on them and we route them and disrupt the route.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would like to see him play a little bit more snap, especially with Jalen Johnson, kind of working back, but he just haven't seen like themselves, like as far as eating, quickness, the bear's defense is a whole.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's guys coming back from injury, just seeing a little bit slower than what we're used to.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and the jail in one I think I mean we have the conversation early on when he got hurt that he didn't know if he'd come back this season so it does feel like maybe because they were making the run they forced that back a little bit and it does look a little slower but I feel like he still does some things good when you need it that's just kind of who jailing is.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you talk about the interior defensive line that's been another conversation.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like Grady did you feel like Grady had one of his better games of the year?
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: As far as this penetration, especially in the run game, and then in the past as well, like I look at defensive tackles obviously is great to have a guy a three technique that can generate sex, but I think it's great about pushing the pocket so that I can't step up.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Grady Gerr, you know, he's getting a little bit older in there and I think he's been battling that knee injury, so it's been tough for him as far as explosion, but I think he had one of his best performances.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, a guy that I want to see step up a little bit is Jerban Dexter.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he has down in the tools, but when I look at him, he came out from from Florida.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were running a two gap scheme.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he still has some of those tendencies even day to back to college where he's not firing off the ball.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple times where he had almost acts that he was one of the last people off the ball.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he has the strength.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has the quickness.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like focusing on on that get off because you look at some of the best in the league.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the key thing.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's some of the guys across the ball that we're going against, so in those guys, you know, Jared versus company, they're, they're firing off the ball.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's what I want to see a little bit more from Jervandexer.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I remember coming out of Florida that was one of the biggest critiques that they had.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a bad Florida defense.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like there was a little bit of unknown about Jervandexer in the first place, but that was one of the things.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: What does, what do coaches do to get that, what is the teaching of the get off.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that's one of those things we were talking in the studio with Lance rigs and some of the other guys.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something that you that got, you know, it's, it's very hard to teach because you learn that from the time you're a kid, you know, you look at like all these guys when I, when I look at like some of the best defensive linemen in the game, you know, from TJ Watts, JJ Watts, Aaron Donald, you know, Julia's preference that I play every time you look at their tape.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're one of the first people off the ball.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's something like you could probably date back to their P.V.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: pop Warner days, same thing.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something you're innate that comes with you, you know, maybe you can, if you want a scheme for so long, but I think a lot of this is ingrained in the people and it's a very hard habit to break, but I think if Jerva and Dexter could really trust it and do it, I think he could be great because you look at his, his sack numbers.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's up there with some of the best as far as as three techniques, but if you turn on the tape and you look at him and Jalen Carter,
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a big difference between disruption, penetration, getting off the football, attracting multiple blockers and things of that nature.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you think I always see that one little machine that they have players where it has those little bar things and they have to drop it.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like reactionary time, is that get off?
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, to an extent, you got to think of it like a track, like on the surface, but it is, you know, three point stance, you know, and on the run downs, but, you know, if you're in a situation where it's a third down,
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: especially from the end position, even three techniques.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some guys get that four points dance and they're fired off the ball.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think you got to trust it.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has all the tools like the strength, the speed, the size, it's there.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you see it and you're like, man, if he could just get off the football, he would get double digits, I really do believe it.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's funny this very quick side note because we had a contest at work recently where one of the former linebackers Tom McManus kind of ran us through some of his line backing drills that he used to do like what he had it when they were dropping back and coverage and doing some of those, but I sprinted for the first time and I didn't realize how long it's been since I just full sprinted like I've done the treadmill and stuff like that, but to just run I was like, oh, I thought I thought I did like my hip flexor.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this hurts so
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, one more defense of question before I get to a few of the offensive side before I let you go the the safety Kevin buyer having an incredible year we've seen some of the things that he's done when being able to force takeaways that maybe one of the storylines of this weekend too you obviously weren't able to really do that against Green Bay any of the times, but being able to maybe force a mistake or two.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: out of Matthew Stafford could be big and Kevin Byrd's been one of those guys that can do it.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brisker I feel like has been a little more quiet this year, but he stayed healthy and he's still able to make plays, but what are your thoughts on those two safety's right now?
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I think they both been playing great.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing that I've loved the most about Brisker, he's been so aggressive, so much in his career.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the past five to six weeks, I feel like he's been very disciplined, patient with his eyes on coverage because in years prior, we saw him get beat a lot on those play action looks because,
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a thumper.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the old school types that wants to stick his nose in there, hit him, but I think he's been very smart about using his shoulder as opposed to his head, but then in coverage, eyes on the keys and that's key.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the same with Kevin Byrd, you know, he's getting up there in age, but he's had one of his best years because he's playing smarter, right?
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's knowing exactly what's going on, you know, and obviously,
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: but it's been incredible.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think any time you have that leadership a guy like fired and first you're even those younger guy is a natural born leader out there or so.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think going forward, guys feed off guys like him and especially Kevin Bire when he makes a big play, guys want to step up in those Sean Wright and company, Jalen Johnson, Collar Gordon, they're wanting to do the same for main endmen.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they all pick each other out but they've been hard to be the best opposition group on this team.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this year.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's flip over to the offense a little bit.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: The offensive line losing Aussie Trapillo.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's another unfortunate injury to that one.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Looks like Theo Benadette, they did activate Braxton Jones.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it seems like they want to start with Theo.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: But what do you think about the difference in that of a Theo being out there rather than an Aussie for this game?
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's going to be too much of a drop off with Theo compared to Aussie.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I think Aussie Chabelo, Chabelo, is a better pass protector than Theo.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Theo's a little bit better in the run game.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the bears have kind of struggled with the running game in the past few weeks.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, maybe that will be benefit if they're running behind him.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a lot better in the run game, but I don't think you're going to skip too much of a beat in this one.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you got Braxton Jones is a backup.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So God forbid something happens to be a benefit.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got it.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got a guy that can come in there can hold down the fort and that has been a starter for a bunch of years.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you talk about Caleb Williams and I know at a former defensive end, I'm sure defensive ends have to get frustrated at the way that Caleb can move his speed.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like he got faster this year, it seems watching him sometimes, but there's, you know, a couple plays the other day, the one we keep saying the Luther burden down that sideline is one of the ones that it's just, it has to be frustrating as a defensive player to know he can get out of some of those and make that type of throw.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, who did he is unbelievable.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the best way I like Tony Romo for years was like a great escape artist but Caleb Williams is 10 to that and he's got more speed.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're a pastor after rushing against him, you have to stay in your lanes.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to you make sure that you're going to his outside lay.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got a rally to troops like he is one of those guys that can.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: beat you in every type of way.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is a cannon of an arm.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He can make every throw.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it perfect perfect every time?
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but as the game gets on, he gets better and better.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing I love the most about him is his confidence.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: When young quarterbacks,
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: The main thing I see with them is the lack of confidence if you make a couple turnovers.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had two picks early in the game, and it didn't affect him one day.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Both players would go in the tank, even some veterans, would kind of think, be on the sideline, soaking a little bit, but he was getting fired up on the sidelines, and his teammates respect him, and it's great to see, because early on, it was some games you looked at, you're like, man, is this the guy?
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think as time gone he's continued to get better.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it perfect?
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I don't think he scratched the surface of what he could be.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the clutch, Jean, that's there.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to see from a young guy because when the games on the line like you could make an argument all day, Caleb Williams is who I'd want in the fourth quarter when a matters.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's funny where I was watching the game there was a Packers fan kind of sitting a little a few seats down and at one point He's like you don't want to leave and I'm like, no, the fourth quarter says best quarter.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why would I leave right now?
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they had a big picture with a bunch of Packers fans.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, great season.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: See you next year as a man.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't count them out.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: final couple before I let you go, Corey, the couple other things from the Rams perspective defensively and what they're facing in this bears often.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you talked about the running game, not quite being there the way it was your adverse really good at setting the edge, not running stopping the run that's one of the players I liked coming into the draft at that time because he was maybe not a Dallas Turner pass rusher, but.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: go to against the run.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's something that they have there and then obviously by our young, they just have lists and lists of guys.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But do you think that they may try and force the bears to run the ball a little bit more?
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they want Caleb to throw?
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think they're looking at this first half and saying, hey, we want Caleb Williams to throw the ball just because of what Green Bay showed that they can do with pressures and disrupting them and disguising coverage.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're going to want them that want him to pass the ball.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I look for the bears this week to really establish the run because when I'm looking at it, it's cold weather football, the rams are used to being, you know, essentially in the dome, you know, in a good situation out there, they're not going to be ready for this, I don't care when anybody says they want to put a dome and all into heights or wherever they do it.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, you got to keep it outside, such an advantage, you know, I remember, you know, countless games, you know, we played Seattle in the last time we had a playoff win.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: back when Marshall on Lynch and Hassell back with their, they didn't want to be there, right?
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Seattle gets, it gets cold, but in Chicago on the lake with the win, it gets even.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We played the Cowboys 2 and 2013, you know, was negative with the windshield.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jason Witton, all those Tony, they didn't want to be there.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's such an advantage show.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, look at the bearers, cold weather football, you got to get the running game going, right?
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they're going to make a push,
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: for this super roll run to beat the Rams and then going to the NSC championship when that game, they are going to have to get the run game going.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's something they struggled the past couple weeks, but if I'm, I love Swift, but I'm going to have to get old school with my nungai early on to really set the tone because what I love about him the most
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if he gets two to three yards, he's lowering his shoulders, lowering his head, and he's inflicting punishment on opposing guy.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when they think about tackle, and they're like, okay, that's real right there.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden he hits Swift with some of those changes directions, some counters, some zones, things that at nature.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I really want to see the run game going this week.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's something that's been lacking, and you look at the bearers.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: They finish the regular season.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's one of the top brushing attacks, and that's kind of been non-existent a little bit
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I definitely want to see them running, but all like you said in this weather, you definitely want to see that kind of ground and pound type of game too, but outside of that, there's so many weapons offensively.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how a defensive coordinator really comes in because one week it's Luther one week, it's Colston one week, it's DJ Moore in the beginning of the year.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: We had some Rome games.
• 22:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're seeing what they've done with Swift and Manongai, both those guys are your two highest, I have the most yards from the line it from skirmitch.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's so many weapons that you have to worry about on this team and I think that's what's kind of fun right now Caleb's doing such a good job at spreading the ball around.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: is I mean they have so many weapons that's such a great thing you talked about Luther burden and obviously coast and lovelin I mean you know the past second half of the season he's really established himself is arguably one of the hottest tight ends in the game right now I mean he's a he's a nightmare matchup and you look at all the great quarterbacks like Kelsey and my homes like that connection right there that's what Chicago binge on to
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I mean, coaching lovelin can run with the best of runs like a wide receiver.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is a absolute nightmare matchup for a linebacker for a safety.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what I love the most is Ben Johnson, right?
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sam Laporta back when he was in Detroit.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he really tried to.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But coaching lovelin has different gear and Sam Laporta.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what makes it so much fun because he's the glorified wide receiver out there.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he can block in line with it.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's got a combination of both.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to be a superstar in this league.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he had over 700 yards receiving in the regular season.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even use him till week six.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that consistently is going to be one of the top receivers as far as tight ends.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And potentially, we straight out wide receivers in this league.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, talk about two guys that are willing to do whatever they want or whatever they can when it comes to Luther and Colston to Luther block his ass off all year long to and it's been so fun.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Corey, I really appreciate your time.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're ready to bear down Sunday night football and, you know, we're going on to the division around.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll be back with another one next week.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Excited for this.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want me to have fun any other time.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me know.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having a good one.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Take it easy.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's continue on.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Divisional round play off talk.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm joined now by Aaron Williams.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Aaron works with me here at 10 10 XL, but big grams fan very much involved into that Rams world.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So thanks for hopping on, Eric.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know we had talked all year long about you and I talk a lot of football and what the strengths and weaknesses of both teams are.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we've had this conversation a lot, but now we get to do it on camera.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, absolutely.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that this is going to be the game of the week.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think these are two teams that I don't know each other that well, but I think they know each other enough.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a little bit of bad blood in there with, you know, with the Michael Floor being on the Rams and you guys beating the Green Bay Packers last week, but I think it's going to be a great game overall and we'll see how it goes.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it definitely feels like it should be a chess match between a Sean McVay and a Ben Johnson will see what that looks like.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: But let's start with the offensive side of the ball for the Rams because clearly Matthew Stafford having one of the best if not his best seasons in the NFL.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just looks incredible.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's been clutch when he needs to be he has I don't even know what he ended with 46 touchdowns or something like that.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, the Bears can't even hit 30 in their entire.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: history of being the bear so that's wild to see.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You talk about the what they've been able to do with Pukuniku and Devonte Adams.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those are huge playmakers, acquired Williams.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a Notre Dame fan.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love Kair and I know there's issues there when it comes to fumbling at times so we'll get to that.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: But let's start with Matthew Stafford and what him and Pukuniku and Devonte Adams have been able to do this year.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and the work speaks for itself.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Devante Adams leaving the league and touchdown receptions.
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if Pook and I Koo had didn't get heard, I mean, I think he'd be leading all stats everywhere for receivers.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he missed a game there and had a slight didn't production.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But as far as the game this week with Matthew Staff for the front row of the MVP, 46 touchdowns, only 10 interceptions.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: and now what a lot of people are making this game out to be is this the code look map you suffered he played in Detroit he played against Chicago once a year in the code back at Chicago he played at Green Bay in the cold the the cold's not going to be a bother him the Vante Adam same thing he played at Green Bay for years with Aaron Rodgers the cold's not going to be an issue with him
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew can spin it just as well as everybody.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Pugna Kua, he went to BYU, there were some cool games out there in Utah, so I mean, I don't think it's going to be as big of a fact as what people are making it.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, what that being said, it's going to be very cold.
• 26:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just single digits if I'm not mistaken.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, as far as there are offensive being able to throw the ball, I don't believe it's going to be a huge factor.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, they are going to have to run ball a little bit more because when you get hit,
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the code, it takes a toll on you.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, and they only ran it.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe they only ran it less than 20 times last week.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's got to pick up.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I think with Blake Horm, how you mentioned earlier, or excuse me, with the current way, is to mention, he hasn't fumble since week five.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's on a very good job, and one thing I'm appreciative of is how well he's taken care of the ball.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Since fumbling in San Francisco and at Thursday night game.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, a big emphasis there, he's going to continue to do that.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe of strong showing from the Rams
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think the cold is as big as some people are making it out to be.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do, like you said, it's very cold and Caleb Williams now at this point.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: He has the Browns game, two Packers games where it's been in freezing temps and snow and stuff like that.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he definitely has done it multiple times this year and played out a high level.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's more of the conversation than Matthew Stafford can't do it more so that Caleb Williams has now done it three times in the last month.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So just the comfort ability and
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: get knowing the wind and knowing soldier field and where the wind's coming from and things like that are more of a factor than a just straight up being cold.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think that when it comes to a Kyron Williams, for example, you it's been a while since he has fumble.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know I talked to you early on in the season and you were like, he's got to figure out that you know that that's something he's got to be able to figure out clearly down the stretch.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was able to on the other side though the bears have the most takeaways in the NFL and they're really good at forcing fumbles and getting the ball out of hand.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would think so, yeah, I mean, obviously they're very opportunistic, you know, with getting the ball, the bear's defenses, and so that has to be a point of emphasis.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but again, the Kyron hasn't fumbled since week five.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and you see when he's hitting the whole, he's patient.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's covering the ball up with both hands.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he knows how important it is to continue to hold on to the football.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, Dan, and the Eagles game last week, and the court, or excuse me, last year, in the cold and the divisional round, he had that fumble and the first play at the fourth quarter that changed everything.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: that can't happen this week if they want to come out of soldier field with the win they have to play mistake free football and mistakes fumbling just cannot be one of them you know a few uh but and another thing too that the rams uh have to get better with as far as you know when last week we saw from them is is penalties there were a lot of penalties from them
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: huge amount of penalties.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That can happen as well.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think those two things You know making sure we take care of the football and also Not committing as much penalties as we did against Carolina.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are gonna be the big key things going into this game
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think, Sean McPhase, the kind of mindset will be going into this.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of the biggest weaknesses of the bear's defense has been the midfield.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've allowed, I think the most yards the highest passer rating everything midfield granted.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Some of that is you haven't had your nickel corner all year and Kyler Gordon is back now.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that changes things a little bit and CJ Gardner Johnson's back also.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But still, it's just been kind of a point of emphasis from other teams of targeting that midfield, Amon Rao, you see what he did to the bears in that area.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think Sean McVay will do there to kind of take advantage of that?
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would hope that he runs the football a little bit more.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: They simply just didn't run the football enough against Carolina.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it seemed like they were running it at first.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then when they saw how close the score was getting, it's like we're, they just started just unleashing the passing attack.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine, but you have to make sure that you run the football.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: With it being cold, that air is, it's going to affect the ball coming out of Stafford's hand a little bit again.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: the finger issue.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's saying it's nothing.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe him.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's anything.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe just one of those things where he...
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: jammed it, but I don't think it's going to be that big of an issue for him, but you know, like you said, you pointed out to things with the injuries, the bears a little bit banged up coming in this loosing a couple of guys while the rams are actually getting a couple guys.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, some point in one person is Kevin Dodson.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're best, their best interior offense alignment.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's coming back after getting injured in Seattle, and then they're also getting Terrence Ferguson at the Rookie at Oregon.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they'll be able to run the 13 personnel a lot more effectively going into this game.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, those things being able to run the ball and that's just going to set up Matthew in his passing attack even more if they're able to establish that early on.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bears aren't the greatest at running the defense nor are they the best with getting to the passer.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Rams are going to give it up one sack last week.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, running the ball is going to be pivotal, especially early on in that cold and that will set up the passing attack as the game goes on.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: flip to the other side of the ball.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We know the playmakers up front.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to that in a second.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: The second area though has had its moments of weakness recently.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you?
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you kind of evaluate what's been going on there down the stretch with some of those issues?
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm thinking of getting Quentin Lake back last week was going to fix everything and it didn't.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were able to and I think with Carolina not make it excuses for the Rams, but I think Caroline is a better match up for the Rams.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got three tall trees that they can throw to and everybody on the Rams secondary is under six foot except for a killer with a spoon who's not even going to be playing because he's on IR this week.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that they have to limit the big plays.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing that the Rams have given up so much.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: They don't get, you know, long, consistent drives on them on this defense very much.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just get hit for 40, 50, 60 yard plays.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, you know, the team was at their own 30 yard line.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're on the opposing team.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now they're at the Rams 30 yard line.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, what just happened?
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Caleb Williams, we see he can get it in chunks.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they've got to, they've got to limit that tackling is going to be a huge thing.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if Caleb gets outside, he can make things happen with his legs and he's not the easiest guy to bring down.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Versan and Byron Young have struggled a bit with with tackling.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've missed some tackles.
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So on the defensive side of the ball for not just for them, but that secondary as well.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause the the bears are going to come run the ball.
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tackle is going to be a huge thing and not giving up the big play down field to DJ more in the when the boys and company.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's speaking of that.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who do you think it's not like you can only focus on one person, but the bears have a lot of weapons and Ramadune's a back now, DJ Moore, Colston Lovelins, really turned it up.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Recently, you still have Cole Comet.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You obviously talk about a guy like a Jada Walker and a guy like a Luther Burton.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a lot of mouths to feed in Chicago and that's kind of been the storyline throughout the season.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think or who do you think the main focus would be to be like, hey, if we can slow down this person, then you have a chance.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: feel like it's got to be DJ Moore.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know he's coming a little bit banged up, but that's their best receiver.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in my opinion, some people may say, Rome, I think getting in class situations, you want to get the ball to DJ.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to have to limit him.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, with Rome, with Judd A, well, and those other boys that you've talked about, they're
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to be the secondary to DJ Moore.
• 33:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can't let DJ Moore get loose because he can change the game by himself.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: He saw the overtime game against the Packers in the second game they played catching that pass while he was fouled by the way.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a heck of a catch.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's just the kind of things that he's capable of.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we can't let him get loose.
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's got to be the primary focus in my opinion.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of the strengths on strengths I think for this game is possibly the bears offensive line versus the ramps defense of line the bears this year have one of the best the best pass protection granted they lost Aussie to pillow this last week in the game against green bay so they have been it that will be out of there but out there but that interior has been probably three of the best interior.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: three best interior offensive linemen this season in the NFL and Kail Williams hasn't been sacked a lot at all after being sacked almost 70 times this year But we know what that past rush can do you talked about the interior defensive linemen that you guys are getting back You add in a buyer and young and a Jared verse and all of these guys name after name on that side of the ball So do you agree in that that sense of that it may come down to the that strength on strength of some of the what the score may look like
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, those those those boys and inch of cargo.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They they they can block.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a good offensive line.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's unfortunate with the injury to the offensive line.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And last week, I'm so I forgot his name there.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, it's it's going to it's going to be imperative that, you know, we we win the line of screen image because if
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: the rams give up some yards and the rung game will just call it what it is.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the bears like to run the football with with my nung guy, with with Swift and you know, those are two guys that can get very shifty and make things happen, you know, when they need to.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's imperative that we win the offensive or excuse me that we win the the light of scream and jay would get penetration, fill up those gaps and make them they're all down to the outside and then we just got to come up and make the tackle.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, the ramps give up some tackles, you know, that and that's one thing I think that the bears may may exploit, you know, hoping that, you know, they're able to, like I said, do you know, just come up rally, get 11 guys to the ball.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then limit those guys from making those opportunities, but I think if the bears want to find the most success, it's going to be somewhere around there at the last year in which with those guys up front.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So how are you feeling?
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling about this game?
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's your mindset of what it could look like?
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Rams come out with a close one.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be, it's getting, well, let's say that's the, I've been watching the, watching the Rams game out, you know, this entire season, they love to just keep things close.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: They don't like to close things up.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: They love to keep it close.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: They love the fans to be engaged, watched every second and have people on the door steps of a heart attack.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like to weigh into the fourth quarter.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a, yeah, and that's what I'm going to say too,
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: until the fourth quarter and then it's like bare hibernation until the fourth.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be interesting.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, which team is going to get off to the hot start?
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's going to be the thing that we need to look out.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be who's the most fresh in the fourth quarter and who has the least amount of mistakes, penalties, turnovers, drop passes, etc.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to put money on it, feel confident with my guys.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that they
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think that I've been talking about it since very early on in the season that the rams in the seahawks have felt like the two best teams to me all year long and so for the bears even being this position talking about playing it I wasn't expect I mean I told you multiple times this year like I don't know I don't see it happening we can't you know the defense can't do this and this can't happen and this can't happen and then they just turned it up a notch when they needed to down the stretch and obviously last week in the fourth quarter, but I don't think this is the game.
• 37:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: like last week where I don't think the bears can get down 21 to 3 against the Rams and be able to climb out of that.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to have to be able to score some points.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is going to be a game where you run the ball a lot.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think both sides whoever runs the ball better.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I like your point of just the the errors you don't want penalties.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't want turnovers.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you want to probably get a turn over too, is I feel like maybe the keys to this game just because of the the play calling geniuses that we're going to be watching this weekend, but it will be fun.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Aaron, I appreciate your time.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know this game for you, you guys have been kind of expecting to be here all year.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: We are not so we're happy to be here.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: That bearers team is good.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've been watching them close as well.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've been.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: talking all year, but, you know, I think that if they are, if they are going to get it done, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they get it done this year.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that they, they have the team to do it.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But either way, I think it's going to be a great game for everybody involved.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Aaron.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you so much.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I hope you have a good rest of your day.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You too.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.