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RepuTayshia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. It is Ashley. Ben will be joining us
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  Speaker 1: later in the podcast. Um, but I wanted to start
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  Speaker 1: with an interview with one of this week's rejects, Blake,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be doing an interview with Blake, and
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  Speaker 1: then Ben will join us for the Bachelor at recap
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  Speaker 1: and headlines. We have so much of discuss, including the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Ben, the other Ben Ben Smith was eliminated
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  Speaker 1: and what I would say was a shock elimination. This
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  Speaker 1: probably back to my American idle days. I did not
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  Speaker 1: see this coming, but I can't say that I'm really
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  Speaker 1: upset by it, to be quite honest. And I'll let
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  Speaker 1: you know all about that when we get to the recap.
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  Speaker 1: But first off, let's get Blake on the line. Hey Blake,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We're so happy to
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  Speaker 1: have you here. Thanks for having me. How are you doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good now, I'm good now, I'm relaxed. I saw
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  Speaker 1: it all, play it last night and now I can
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  Speaker 1: kind of take a deep breath and so good at
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  Speaker 1: all it? Were you worried about your exit at all,
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, take a deep breath. Um, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think you know, that was really the first
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  Speaker 1: time I was gonna spend a decent amount of time
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  Speaker 1: with a lead. It came really late, right, So finally
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  Speaker 1: sitting down and having with me conversations for a longer period.
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  Speaker 1: You just never know what it's gonna look like or
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  Speaker 1: what you're gonna look like. For the most part, people
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  Speaker 1: had seen me do some pretty risque type things, and
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, so this is a this is a different
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  Speaker 1: type of episode and one that I've been looking for.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to happen earlier, just unfortunately did Speaking of risque,
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  Speaker 1: what overcame you to think that you the penis during? Okay? Casey,
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  Speaker 1: Like I knew this was coming, and that's okay, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: First off, I think I was just like, hey, what's
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  Speaker 1: important to me? What's been missing in my life for
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  Speaker 1: a long period of time? And you know since my
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  Speaker 1: wait wait to eight and you know, since my ex girlfriend,
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  Speaker 1: which was about two years ago, Like it has been
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  Speaker 1: a long time since I've had sex and love, and
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I wanted to be bold and talk
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  Speaker 1: about things that, um, people are scared to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: People are scared to talk about the topic of like sex,
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  Speaker 1: and so, um, I want to tell her something that
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  Speaker 1: you know, Um, listen, it's been two years. Something I've
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  Speaker 1: really miss in my life is something meaningful, and sex
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  Speaker 1: is important in relationship, and so I basically just tried
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  Speaker 1: to describe the difference between just having physical sex and
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  Speaker 1: something that I miss, the difference and being I miss
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  Speaker 1: sex and love and like that passion and having that
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  Speaker 1: connection with somebody. And you know, that didn't make it
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  Speaker 1: to air, but it was. It wasn't fully me just hey,
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  Speaker 1: look what I can do. No, it wasn't that. There
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  Speaker 1: was more deeper meaning to it, and um, unfortunately just
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  Speaker 1: didn't play it that way. Okay, I know, but I
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  Speaker 1: love that would get an explanation now. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: it's so great to talk to people when they get
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  Speaker 1: off the show speaking of you know, honestly like sex
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  Speaker 1: and nudity and all that stuff. How did you guys
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  Speaker 1: react to Bend stripping down in that moment? Like, did
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  Speaker 1: that feel odd to you guys the way it did
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  Speaker 1: for us as an audience. We got to know more
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  Speaker 1: about the background as to why that moves. Possibly you know,
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  Speaker 1: was more meaningful than it seemed in the moment, but
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  Speaker 1: for you guys as a group of his peers, like,
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  Speaker 1: how did that feel? Yeah, you know, Ben's a very
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  Speaker 1: deep guy. He's he's got a lot of thoughts going
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  Speaker 1: up in those in that head, and he's very very emotional,
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  Speaker 1: and he felt like that was the best way to
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  Speaker 1: express himself at the time that I see it coming. No,
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  Speaker 1: but it's something that he would do, and um, I
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  Speaker 1: think is when it comes down to it, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if anyone else in that room would have done that,
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  Speaker 1: maybe aside for me because I have been naked probably
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  Speaker 1: three times by that spot by point, but but no, Like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, if you're coming on
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  Speaker 1: this show and you're gonna be surface level, you're not
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  Speaker 1: getting anywhere. Um, you've got to show yourself, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: in that way all the time, but you've got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to risk things. And that was a risking
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  Speaker 1: thing to do. But she loved it. He did the
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  Speaker 1: right thing. Um, I didn't see it coming, but it
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  Speaker 1: was a great. One of the ski things you did
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  Speaker 1: up front was d m claire about you d M.
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  Speaker 1: Tart checking in on her mom and like how she
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  Speaker 1: was doing during like the real lockdowns of the Spring,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, like most of the audiences just thought
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  Speaker 1: that was the sweetest gesture of you. We really like that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were running a risk when
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  Speaker 1: you did that or were you just truly like, this
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  Speaker 1: is more important than my time on the show. If
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  Speaker 1: for some reason they kicked me off, yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what. That's the thing. Up to that point,
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  Speaker 1: I had followed Claire for a while, so I listened
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  Speaker 1: to her podcast, I listened to her talk about her mom.
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  Speaker 1: I saw her posts. I knew how meaningful it was
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  Speaker 1: to her. So yeah, it would have been different if
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  Speaker 1: I reached out and was like, hey, you're hot, I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to see you. Like, no, I wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 1: do that. I knew that it was taking a risk
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  Speaker 1: and sending her something. But I think if it was
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  Speaker 1: genuine and meaningful the way that it was, and seeing
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  Speaker 1: how emotional is she's she's mature, she wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: take that and throw in my face. Although she made
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  Speaker 1: it seem like that at night one, when she brought
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  Speaker 1: it up, I was like, oh God, is she about
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  Speaker 1: to wrap me out right now? Like this is not happening.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I knew that she would appreciate it, um
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and she did. And I'm glad that I
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  Speaker 1: did that because I've been to that point. I've been like,
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  Speaker 1: not obsessing, but like i convinced myself that Claire was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the one for me, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: start showing her that in some way and showing her
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  Speaker 1: that genuine I was. And so, UM, I had my
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  Speaker 1: hand over the send button for a long time and
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  Speaker 1: I would I would erase it and be like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I can't do this, and then I bring it back
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  Speaker 1: like and then I was just like send and I'm oh, shoot,
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  Speaker 1: you're just just staring on Instagram. You can't send. I know,
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  Speaker 1: but I know that they she saw it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, you know, just staring at your phone.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep all And I'd be like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that was a good idea, but ended up
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  Speaker 1: being a good idea. So so she didn't respond. She
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  Speaker 1: did end up responding. She did to respond and just said, listen, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I really really appreciate, um, what you did there. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll take genuine, being genuine, uh and being kind over
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  Speaker 1: taking a risk any day or something like that. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that she like that, she was the kind
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  Speaker 1: of personality that would receive that really well. I hear
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  Speaker 1: that you say. You said you did a lot of
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  Speaker 1: research on her. Were you a fan of the Bachelor beforehand?
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  Speaker 1: Or were you just kind of like, UM, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do I'm gonna try to get to know this girl
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  Speaker 1: as best as I can in her interests beforehand. It
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  Speaker 1: would have been, um, such a disservice to her if
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  Speaker 1: I fully knew it was going to be her for
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  Speaker 1: four months and I sat back and just like waited
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  Speaker 1: to get there and just hope for the best. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to make something that was potentially going to
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  Speaker 1: work in the end, and so in doing that and
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  Speaker 1: knowing that, I wanted to know everything about her because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be have the potential to make it
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  Speaker 1: to the end and then take off the way that
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  Speaker 1: Dale and her have, and so I wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: everything about her. It would be a disservice to her.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to show her that I was invested. She
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  Speaker 1: talked on every Live, every podcast, and you could see
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  Speaker 1: the emotion feel here, the emotion and how she was
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  Speaker 1: ready for this and it's her time, and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: going to be one to disappoint her, so I dove in,
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  Speaker 1: And um, I don't regret that at all. It's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because the Bachelor, like having one on one dates or
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  Speaker 1: like even time on the Bachelor can be awkward because
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  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of things to spark conversation. So
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that you did research so that
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  Speaker 1: you had all these different interests of her that you
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  Speaker 1: could discuss with her that was like personal instead of
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  Speaker 1: talking about like, oh my gosh, this bubble, like how
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  Speaker 1: weird of an environment. It is, Like I think like
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  Speaker 1: people use that as like crutch conversations about like what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing in the actual moment. But it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: like get beyond the bubble in these conversations because like
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  Speaker 1: everything you'd ask is so random, right, You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: should I ask about how the fact that she loves
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  Speaker 1: hot like hot tubs and saunas like I wouldn't, but
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  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't, How would that come up on the show? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know I would say that. To
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I think you could probably get that from
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  Speaker 1: her too if you ever talked to her. Is that
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  Speaker 1: I never came in with a surface level conversation. I
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  Speaker 1: knew that everything having meaningful and deep, and you know
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  Speaker 1: that also kind of sucks to and you let go
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  Speaker 1: by two women on National TV after coming out and
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  Speaker 1: giving them everything, like everything you're thinking, the deepest things,
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  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable things, and being let go like that
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  Speaker 1: is so much harder than just dating someone on the street,
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  Speaker 1: where you know it's usually surface level in reality, but
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  Speaker 1: here you can't do that. You have to dive in um.
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  Speaker 1: And we never had really surface level conversation. It's always
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  Speaker 1: always meaningful things, deep things. UM. It's easier for me
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  Speaker 1: to have thom because when you're invested in like passion
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  Speaker 1: or something and really believe in something like here, it
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  Speaker 1: all is like I'm gonna trust you with all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And she was really receptive to everything, and we had
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  Speaker 1: some great conversations that just in that's the way I
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  Speaker 1: wanted it to. Well, let's talk about that. So you
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  Speaker 1: seem very invested in Claire. We saw you with I
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  Speaker 1: would say like it was you Dale and Jason that
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  Speaker 1: like we're the only ones that stood out with Claire.
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  Speaker 1: But then when she left, it seems like you had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty easy transition to Titia. Why do you feel
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  Speaker 1: that was so? Um? Because first off, right, I had
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  Speaker 1: convinced myself that I really really was in Declare before
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  Speaker 1: actually meeting her. And although we got along and like
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  Speaker 1: we had connections, we had kissed and these things, like
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  Speaker 1: the energy didn't feel that great. But you know, at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, you're on the show for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, is this just kind of feel odd because
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  Speaker 1: it's the show? Like what kind of is it? Um?
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  Speaker 1: And then when she came in and basically just caught
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  Speaker 1: us all off at once, and we didn't see it coming,
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  Speaker 1: and she wasn't giving us the time of day in
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  Speaker 1: a way, um, it was easy to just like be like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well listen, if this is actually how it's gonna go,
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  Speaker 1: this is it's gonna be easy for me to just
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  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm not going to give you kind
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  Speaker 1: of the time of day, or haven't even another thought
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  Speaker 1: in my mind moving forward when I know that there's
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  Speaker 1: another great potential person coming in and I can focus
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  Speaker 1: and transfer that energy and those thoughts in that mental
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  Speaker 1: space to her moving forward. And once you went to
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  Speaker 1: meet Tam, sure you probably spoke to her she's you
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  Speaker 1: just gravitate like you just like it's impossible. Not so,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it gave you like this new like wow, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this is who it is because
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  Speaker 1: and she did it for everybody. Everyone felt like that
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  Speaker 1: a connection with her. It was wild. Everyone came back
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  Speaker 1: and like oh my god, and I'm like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 1: in trouble here because we didn't we we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that feeling with Clear because we just it wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: same energy, and she brought something was different and it
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  Speaker 1: was It was nice because the guys really deserved at
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  Speaker 1: that point. Totally understandable. Okay, So you do talk in
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  Speaker 1: your last episode about how you felt like your chemistry,
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  Speaker 1: your relationship with Taitia was building slowly, like you're you're
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  Speaker 1: late to building it, but you did feel like it
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  Speaker 1: was happening. Was there anything that we saw, like a
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  Speaker 1: spark moment that we didn't get to see on TV
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  Speaker 1: or that felt more meaningful than maybe it appeared on TV. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know what's what's Unfortunately, I think you
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  Speaker 1: didn't like to see a lot of the slow progression
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  Speaker 1: in the conversations throughout, like the group dates at night
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  Speaker 1: and those things where you know, we would leave those
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  Speaker 1: conversations and I would feel so good about making that
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  Speaker 1: small step. It was the little things, and she would
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  Speaker 1: let me know those things. She'd be like, listen, like
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  Speaker 1: I wrote you off as one thing in the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: and every time I speak to you, I get a
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  Speaker 1: whole new layer and like you surprised me every time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's up because I could feel some of the
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  Speaker 1: tension in a way where she would take in this information,
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  Speaker 1: but I still had that red flag over my head,
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  Speaker 1: was like this guy just had a connection with Claire.
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  Speaker 1: How much am I really going to give him? How
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  Speaker 1: much of my time and how much my mental space
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  Speaker 1: am I gonna give him? So you know, it would
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  Speaker 1: have been nice to see a little bit more of
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  Speaker 1: those conversations, I think throughout the way because it would
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  Speaker 1: have made more sense for our one on one and
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  Speaker 1: why God, as emotional as it did. Um, yeah, there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't I think one big moment. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: just a realization for at the end when she realized
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  Speaker 1: that she was letting me go, that she wasn't fully
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  Speaker 1: sure because it was a time thing, and that she
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that she's necessarily making the right decision at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, and maybe she was conflicted. Um it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to say. She was very emotional when you left, so
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't a surprise to you. Um, it was emotional.
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  Speaker 1: It surprised me of the emotional how that she got
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  Speaker 1: as emotional she did, like basically watching it back and
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  Speaker 1: make taking a step back and looking at it from
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  Speaker 1: an outside and instead of being there, remember hugging her
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  Speaker 1: and she started to tear up and she was saying
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  Speaker 1: she was sorry and all those things. And you know, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, in those moments here, like your mind's
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  Speaker 1: going to a million different places. So watching it back,
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  Speaker 1: like you could really soak things in. Um. It makes
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  Speaker 1: sense to me though, because I feel like she started
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  Speaker 1: to see all those things and the connection came, the
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  Speaker 1: connection that we needed came on the last day, like
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  Speaker 1: the absolute last potential moment, and it was like, this sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Even if this happened like last week, there have been
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  Speaker 1: more time to it. Just I felt like she felt
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  Speaker 1: the same way, and we still kind of got that
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  Speaker 1: mentor m we ran a time. There was a connection
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  Speaker 1: came too late. There's potentially something there. And I'm emotional
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know if I'm making the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: It's the kind of way I felt. So you're you're
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  Speaker 1: saying during the episode that you, Okay, how do I
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  Speaker 1: read this? Okay? But I know this moment and I've
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  Speaker 1: done this so many times on the show where it's
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  Speaker 1: like I feel, I feel like feelings right, but then
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of being like I'm being asked questions that
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  Speaker 1: had make me feel like I should be more affirmed
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  Speaker 1: in these feelings than I really am, or like that
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  Speaker 1: the other person is feeling stronger than I towards me
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  Speaker 1: than I really think they are they are, And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you may have done that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in that final date, because were you really imagining being
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  Speaker 1: in hometowns or were you kind of just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm feeling hopeful, and I'm going to speak out
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  Speaker 1: of the positive side of my mouth instead of like
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  Speaker 1: the more cautious side. Yeah, you know, going into that
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  Speaker 1: one on one she had she had four one on ones,
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  Speaker 1: five one on ones before then four of what she
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  Speaker 1: made strong connections with them. I could feel those like
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  Speaker 1: I could feel that I wasn't on that same level
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  Speaker 1: at that moment. What those guys so going in, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but this one on one is like
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  Speaker 1: the time that I could fully be me and have
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  Speaker 1: a day to show me and like, I think I
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  Speaker 1: can turn this around on this day. And I was
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  Speaker 1: fully optimistic. Do you go into that date thinking I'm gone,
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  Speaker 1: You're done from the beginning, right, You're trying to you
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  Speaker 1: want to, you want to enjoy your time. So I
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  Speaker 1: was convincing myself again, I like you had to because
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  Speaker 1: and it made the day so fun. If I went
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  Speaker 1: in there with a different mindset, it would have been weird,
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  Speaker 1: especially on a deep, deep meaningful date like that with
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  Speaker 1: the rieky and stuff. If I came in with a wrong,
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  Speaker 1: wrong attitude, would have been a weird date. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that I came in the way that I did.
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  Speaker 1: Got you, I got you, totally understand um. So, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of that day, kind of kind of awkward, right, Ben
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking on last night's episode about how
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  Speaker 1: like he with his fiancee or and me with my husband,
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  Speaker 1: Like if I had to in front of people, sit
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  Speaker 1: on his lap, stare in his eyes and like breathe
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  Speaker 1: like right into his face, like I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: that we would feel like super comfortable and then you
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  Speaker 1: got you and got a boner. Like was that just
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  Speaker 1: like all was that just so awkward to watch on
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  Speaker 1: TV or there? Okay? Well yeah, I mean like like
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: we all get it. Like seriously, Jared was watching, He's like,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: uh duh, yeah, yeah, I listen, Okay, like she was
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: on my lap and like we got really intimate in
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: that moment, and um, it's really hard to explain um
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: that feeling in that moment. I guess I showed it
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but no, like, um, yeah, it was
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a little it was a little awkward watching that back now. Listen.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I think that the shorts just made it look like that. Okay,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I was as charged up as
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: uh it may have been. There's a black box in everything,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: and like we don't even know what could be under
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the black box. It could be a nothing, it could
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: be a big you know. Yes, yeah, well, I mean realistically,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: in the time, if it really was really Eiffel powering there,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: probably would have covered it up. But yeah, we'll leave
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: it at that. Okay, Well, before we let you go,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you a couple more like
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: macro questions about the season so far. Kenny told us
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: last week that Bennett really never broke character. He was
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: just like always in Harvard gentleman mode. So can you
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: confirm or denies that him all the time. Yeah, he
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: like what you see is what like there is no
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: there was no change from start to start to end
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: exactly what you saw. Like I can't really expand on
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: that too much more. He Um, he is him like
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that and he plays a character, but it also it's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a character, but he also is that, like that's what
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: he is. Maybe plays into a little bit more sure,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: but he sees what you get with him. Um, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I think there's a as of like there's a lot
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: of love hate with him, but people love him, love
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: him because he is what it is and he'll stand
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: by that and he knows it, just like Noah does
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the same thing. He's very himself, doesn't care what you think.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And so I can see why you're up. You can
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: be such a flip flop on either side either love
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: or you hate, or love or hate and it makes
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: sense supposed to. Um tell us about the quarantining process. Uh,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, how many days did you guys have
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: alone in your hotel rooms? How many days do we
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: have in our hotels with quarantine? Yeah, like alone before
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: this show started a long time, a long time, Like
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I was like when we when we got out of there,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: it was like thank god, Like it was. It was
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: really really painful to do, and especially with detention, the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: anticipation of like never doing this before, and like you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: we didn't have really anyone really stop by or anything.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: You're literally fully quarantined and they were overly safe, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I hated it, but they did a really good job
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of making sure that we could do the season the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: way that we did it in a safe way. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: when Jared and I went to go visit, we were
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: quarantined for four days, we like could have what could
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: we get? Really odd to have like a massed visitors
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and like the night of day three or something. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: guys had longer than this, way longer than that. Like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I was going, I was going mental, and like, you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for the guys that actually came into
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: eight the season that had to do it even longer
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: than we did. But um, yeah, it was. It was
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: way more intense than I thought it was gonna be.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing right from up in Canada, like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't at that point like COVID was. It's a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: thing there, but it's not the same intensity as in
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: this is it in the States. So I can see
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: why it was taken to seriously as it is in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the States. And um, yeah it was. It was very
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: nice to get out and see everybody appreciate. See that
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was usually the time for us, Like during a regular
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor, you are still quarantine, like you're
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: still in a hotel room, right and you can't leave
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: without there being a chaperone bringing you to a photo
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: shoot or an interview or anything. But it's nice because immediately,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like right off the bat, the first hour that you're there,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you start getting visitors and getting to know the producers
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and they're just like so easy to get along with,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and you're making friends and you're feeling you like you belong.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: So it must have been like really scary, And yes,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: going mental makes a lot of sense. Do you did
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you guys get your phones or computers at all during
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: that time or do they take the phones like normal,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: everything's completely gone. It probably would have ran the exact
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: same way that it did with with your season, except
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it was just extended and just like no business or anything.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: It was rough. It was it was really rough. We
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you know. Again, I was around on that first setting
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to go around to see Claire in March, so I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: went through that regular prosa, so I understand that it
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was and this was not that like we really need
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: things were different this time around for sure, Okay, okay,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So um, I also wanted to know whether they flew
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: your family out to be a possible hometown date and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: if you know how they did that. If your family
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: didn't do that, I don't know. I fully don't know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: My family didn't end up going obviously, but I don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: know any of those details. So I couldn't couldn't get
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you that, But um, I would assume that they went
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: through something similar to yourself. Yeah, okay, when you left.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: If the show were to end that day, who would
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you think Tasia was going to end up? If the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: show is to end that day that day? Okay, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: know that you guys have big group guy threads and like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you know who wins, so I don't want I want
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to know who that Okay, Okay, that day, I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: she would have wanted to pick Brendan. I think that's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: what who she liked the most at that time. Um,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but I feel like I feel like Zach would have
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: probably been the best suited. Zach is my front runner
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to win as that's that's I feel like he's just
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it's more complete there. Okay. I on even like the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: question do you want to go on Paradise because I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: feel like people who say no are big fat liars. Yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: so I'm not. I'm not saying no. What I'll say
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to that is so what I'll say to that is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: is that you know, I came into this experience fully
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: invested in looking for something. I'm this place of my life.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to play around anymore. I don't want date,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I don't want like. I'm looking for something. And so
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: if someone comes around that connects all the dots and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: checks all the boxes for me, then you won't see
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: me in Paradise by the time that that comes about
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in the summer. If I'm if I'm single by that time,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: then there's a probably a good chance to see me there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm actively looking for my person, So um, I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: not setting things aside or changing my life. I'm living
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: normally again and looking for somebody. So um, it's probably
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And who in the franchise would you hope to get
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: a date with if you were there? This is See,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: this is difficult because like it's hard to say that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be multiple seasons to choose
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: from and we don't really I mean you can and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you can anticipate some right that you might have a feeling,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: but um, I think it just in terms of the franchise,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Like really, I'm looking for someone who's like minded, ready
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: in the same mental spaces me saying, like part of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: their life whe they're ready for something. Um, there's some
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: girls that stand out for sure to me in that way.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Any names, Blake, we need names, I'll give you a couple,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: but I really don't know anything really about but I'll
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: give you some. And these are just, uh no, more
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: than that, I think, Um, these people are just kind
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of stand out because they are more than just good looking.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Like I see, I like that Kenda Long has an
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: interest in like a lot of like the animals and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like loves that kind of thing because I could connect
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: them that way. And she's cute any Doorphins just because
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: she's got her together and like it's any doorphan she's
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: got it I'll figured out. Um, I don't know. Christina
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Shalman is really good looking. I don't know anything about her.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So like there's girls that like I'm definitely have an
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: eye on it a way, but I don't know if
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I'll ever seen in paradise. So who knows? Awesome. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: love your I love your choices. My last question is,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: just tell us a little bit about your job. You
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: are a wildlife manager in Ontario, Canada, and you work
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: with endangered species. So tell us the coolest animals you
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: work with, and like how you create these amazing bonds
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of the animals. Okay, So the way that it kind
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of played out is so I do a lot of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: volunteer work with more of the endangered species things. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: um last year I went to Africa and worked with
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: rhinos Um. This year and going back to Africa and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I UM hoping to set up a little bit more
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of an experience. I've been in contact with a couple
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of organizations to do more work in the wildlife field
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and wildlfe conservation field. So looking to pair up with
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: an organization that basically has purchased this big piece of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: land in Africa hundred fifty acres that's been basically the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: wildlife has been decimated by poaching. So we're looking to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: put basically plants together anti poaching programs to restore the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: wildlife there and then go and visit some other sanctuaries
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and things and just lend a hand where people need
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: it because out in Africa that's a big problem with
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: poaching crisis out there. So, um, that's more volunteer type
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: work that I do here. It's actually more just human
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: wildlife conflict in terms of pest and wildlife management and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: urban settings. So if you get something in your at
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I could you could call me and I'd be like, like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: here's some thematic be the size of the poops I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: hear that this time, and I like, I could walk
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you through that type of thing. Um. So it's it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: more pest of wildlife related uh in this setting back home. Um,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But it's a combination of things that I'm slowly starting
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to transition more into the while they have conservation space
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on a larger scale, hopefully overseason over and AFA. So
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: basically in school, when I was living in a dorm
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and I went to go to the bathroom in the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: middle of the night and I saw a bat flying
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: directly at me through the hallway in a very Dracula
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: like manner. You would be, I would, yeah, and we
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: would be saving it. We'd be putting it outside. Good. Yeah. Yeah,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: they've got they've got white nose syndrome and they're endangered
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: right now, really bad. Yeah, we could have a whole
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: chat on wildlife one days. That's really fun. Okay, Well,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: if we ever going to do an in depth with it,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: we would love to do that. So Blake, thanks for
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Joe winning us. It's been really fun watching you on
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the show. And um we hope to see you more
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. Awesome. Thanks for having me appreciate it. All right, Well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it looks like Ben is able to join the pod now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I know he had a conference today. I'm excited to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: get him on. Hey Ben, what's up? Ashley? Hey Pump
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to be here? What an episode we had to break down? Uh, Ashley,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's always worked best here recently because these
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: episodes have been so action packed to break down the
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: episode first and then do bachelor headlines at the very end.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: What do you think Let's do it in that manner again?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So we well, Ashley, we have hometown dates. Uh. This week,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Zach Ivan, Ben, and Brendon are the men left. This
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: is a big episode. It's never been done this way,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: but obviously, um, I want to start talking about it
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: this way. I really loved how Chris Harrison walks into
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the room and tells the men before the dates who's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: actually going to be there. Yeah, that was cool because
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it was a surprise for them, and I also love
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that it was is it weird? I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: he was more personal that they had to do something makeshift.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I think like everything about shooting in one location has
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: kind of been a positive this season. It's just made
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: everything more relatable, more real feeling, I would agree, more creative,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and like it makes it seem like they need to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: add an extra little bit of effort, in which I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: have appreciated. That's an interesting point you bring up. Like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I really loved how they had to create their dates.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It was more personal. However, I think it's been great
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for this season. I think it's going to be great
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: for that season. However, I don't know if I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to do it long term. Yeah, you know, it's good
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: for now. They've done a great job with what they
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: ad I just don't know that for the next ten
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: seasons if I want to see it in one place. Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I totally agree with you, all right,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: So let's get into it. To Brendan, who had his
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: brother Daniel and his wife and his niece there. His
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: niece kind of plays a role throughout the entire you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: portion of his which was so cute. She was at
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the carnival with him. He said that there's a lot
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: of carnivals in his small town, so they played a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: lot of carnival games. It was adorable, very playful. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: think it was great to see Brendan's father lee side
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: come out, especially since Tatia talks about wanting to have
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: five kids. One day I was one, I know that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: his dad passed away, and he talked about that, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that's so sad. Did we find anything about his mom
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: being there or did his mom pass away as well? Yeah, see,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that was a question I had. I don't know that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So that's a good question for our listeners because they
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: they find out things sometimes better than anybody can. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: so listeners out there, if you know anything about what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: happened to Brendon's mom, uh, it would be fantastic to know, um.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But there actually I want to bring a point to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the top right away, um, because here's the thing with
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: these guys, and they've been a great group of guys
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: for the most part, um, and and a really solid
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: group of gentlemen, like they've treated each other with respect,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: especially guys. Towards the end, Uh, they've really focused on Tasia.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But something really cool kind of stood out to me
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: during Brendan's date and then it kind of led into
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: every date for the most part since his date during
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Hometowns is there's these moments during the date where these
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: men looked at somebody in their life that they loved
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and respected, and they looked him in the eyes and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: they said, I just want you to know how much
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I care about you and how great you've been to me,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: And you saw grown men cry through it. Like it's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: one of the things that we talked about on the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: show a lot. But I think it's one of those
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: growing moments that happened when you're on the show, is
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you start to miss people that you love and you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: also start to realize just how big of a role
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: they had in your life. And I thought that was
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: an incredible thing to each date. But it really stood
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: out to me during Brendan's date and when he talked
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to his brother. I agree with you there, but I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: also like, I don't know that I can say more
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: so on his portion of the date than than Ivan
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: with his brother, or or Zach with Zack's daddy. Was
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: so cute with his mom too. But we'll talk about
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Zack in a second. But Brendan's date went well, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be super honest, it was probably the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: most forgettable for me of all four of them. It
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: could be because it was the first one. Um, but
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: watching this, it made me feel like Brendan was the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: one who had a lesser advantage going into the row
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: ceremony until we see the ending of Ben's date, which
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: kind of turns things. But did you feel the same
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: way with Brendan. I don't know. I cannot disagree with
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you more. Really, it wasn't that I didn't love the family.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I love the family, love Brendan. I think he's so emotional,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: such a sweetheart. I just didn't feel the chemistry between
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Tatia and him. I was just like, um, I feel
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like this connection might be the weakest. Now, I don't
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: disagree with you when it comes to chemistry. Um, I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: still think he might be kind of the surprise here,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: but right now as we see it, I think Brendan
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: probably has the weakest connection out of any of them. However, uh,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: this day is memorable to me because I feel like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: he got a huge advantage. Now, going first is never easy. However,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he brings in the niece, and that niece is incredible.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So anytime you have somebody that wants five kids and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you bring in a niece or a child to hang
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: out for the day and you see how those two
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: interact like that is a massive advantage. It is cute
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, no, I mean it was very cute,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't think the cute added up enough for
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: me to be thinking about Brendan and the end of things.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I actually felt like Ivan was the one who like
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: stepped up in this episode. We we knew that Zach's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I think, like we know the connection with Zach is strong.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I think that he's just always been a shoe in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: for top two, but I thought Ivan who Honestly, as
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of last night, I wasn't sure who's going to round
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: out this Top four, whether it was gonna be Ivan
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: or Riley. And then Ivan comes in with this with
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the cute cooking date, which I can tell you guys
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: from when we were down there doing the breakfast portion
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of the Grown ass Man Challenge. Tasia really stressed that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: cooking is a huge part of her life. It's something
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that she wants to do with a guy. She wants
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: a guy with a good cook, who's a good cook,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: who's a good cooker. And I'm like, that's so funny
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to put on your list of like wishes for a
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: man good cook. You know, it's like that seems like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a nice bonus, but it's very important for her. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I thought that he got a little bump up to me.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: And then I freaking loved Ivan's dad. He was so
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: cute And can we get a confirmation on this? Did
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he say that he was eighty a couple episodes ago?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when they were talking about age difference
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and like his dad's age and health and stuff. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: thought he said he was eighty, But I could be
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: completely making up with making that up. His dad looks fantastic,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: such a sweet man. Then his mom is adorable, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: then his brother came in, and you know that was
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a very emotional moment. I just I just feel like
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that's like a very close knit family, and Tasia loves
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to see that. Yeah, So you know, Ivan's story was
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: hit home with me. You know, I've I've talked about
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: my dead head cancer. He's had heart heart failure. Um,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I know, I know the emotions that that has, like
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: when you walk through that with a you know, a parent. Now,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: obviously this season we've we have a lot of stories
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of these men losing parents, are having a disconnect from
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: their families, and I really started to feel friving there. Also, though,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: starts to all make sense to me on why he
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: is so wise. He is very mature. Uh, he's very
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: empathetic because he's walked through some Like I don't think
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you can become wise unless you walk through some stuff
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: in life, and it feels like Ivan's walked through some stuff.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And so this hometown date just really felt like for
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: me less of a Hey, this is fun and exciting
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and more of a wow, we're really getting to know
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: this man and this is a good dude, Like he's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a solid, solid guy. Um. You know, Ivan's mom is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a little skeptical, which makes actually there's a part of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the episode that I want to ask you about, Chris
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Harrison walks in and kind of pumps Ivan up by saying, Hey,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: your mom is here, and she's so excited to be here. Yeah,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so cute. I think, like you just could tell Harrison
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: liked her exactly. But then she's also one of the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: most skeptical family members that we see in this episode.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And skepticism. Fine, if you're a parent and you're not
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a little skeptical this whole thing, like you know that
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it's fair to be skeptical, did you Yeah, definitely, That's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: what I want to do. Now. I'm just do you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: think do you think that she showed the excitement that
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you were expecting based on how Harrison kind of introduced her. Um, Yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: actually okay, So in the previews it seemed like she
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: was going to be tough, and then when I met her,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: you know, we met her and she's had down with Asia,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, I love the way she's expressing her skepticism,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: because like she's cautious and like worried for her son
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and all that, but like not in an angsty way,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like not in a I'm trying to gang up on
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the lead type way that I did see a little
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: bit from Zack's brother, Like zach s brotherer just you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: came in on the defensive, and I like the way
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that um Ivan's mom did it with like a little
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: bit more of a gentle approach. Well. Uh, Ivan's hometown
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: date was one that I just really really enjoyed watching
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: because we've got a whole perspective who Ivan is, what
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: his family is. Uh. You see his dad and his mom,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and you know the story of his dad as we
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: just talked about. But his brother comes in kind of
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: in a shocking twist, right. He didn't know his brother
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: was going to be there. Um, It's interesting because I'm
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: gonna say, like, Ivan's brother obviously like has a story
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to tell and to see him on the Bachelorette is
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: not probably something he ever expected. Yet his brother was fantastic.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Just the way Ivan and his brother communicated with each other. Again,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: for Ivan to look his brother in the eyes and say,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you know how much you mean to me? Like, those
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: are moments on this show that just like pull my
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: heart out and like throw it to the heavens, like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it is absolutely beautiful. I agree, I loved it. He there,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: there's such sweeties. They're definitely an odd couple, you know
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: what I mean, They're very different, but there's that family
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: bond there. You can tell how close they are. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: also loved as part of Ivan's dates that um, his
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: dad sat downtation and was like, you know what, I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: was divorced as well, and like they had that little
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: moment he was like I was very young, how old
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: were you? And then he talked about just you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: maturing in order to find that right person. And I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: just I like the way that they were like having
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: their own sort of bond. Yeah. There there's just something
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like I don't know if I could think of a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: better word, but like spirit warm, but like spiritual about
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: those moments, like you know, in the sense of it
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: transcended TV, transcended conversation. When I watched this, I felt
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: something different than I what I usually feel watching this show.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And that's what I look for in seasons, right, Like
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that's what I want is to feel like I am invested.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I mean I would be lying to you if I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: said that, like multiple times are in this episode. Not
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that I wept, but like that my eyes didn't get
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: teary because to c two people sitting next to each
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: other at this stage in their lives and say I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: love you, I respect you. And then to have his
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: dad sit down Withtation and say, hey, I get it,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like you've been divorced. But once I found that right person,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I know it was the best thing for me, especially
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: knowing that, like as his dad says this, he also
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like has had to deal with some health issues and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: know that, like, hey, life's not easy. So I don't know. Actually,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like Ivan's hometown date, yeah, I'll just call it spiritual
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and people hopefully will know what I'm talking about, like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it transcended these Yeah, this whole this whole episode proved
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to me that it's like probably one of the most
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: emotional seasons we've ever watched, and Tasia's has been an abbreviate,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: abbreviated season two. So it's it's been good. I've really
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed myself. Should we go back to Zach which
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: was probably the date that like I felt the most
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: butterflies on behalf of the couple, and that I felt
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't cry, but I did like feel like a swelling,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a welling, a welling during this date. And I think
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it's just because this family was so cute, Like how
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: sweet were the parents? Just like so real and authentic,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: and um, Zach's Zach is just being so happy and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: just talking about how his family has never seen him
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: like this and then telling Tasia like wow, like this
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: is a whole this is like the best of Zach, right,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and you bring it out in him. So I don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: know what I loved this, states his brother. Yeah, was
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: hard on her, but you know, whatever that happens, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you get that where that happens, there is there's a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: lot of skepticism that comes into this whole experience, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I understand why, especially when you have a brother who
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: knows Zack's past. Right, he doesn't know the conversations that
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Tatian Zach have had. He doesn't know how open Zack
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: has been with her, and so he's coming and going, hey,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I know where Zach has been. I know that he's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: had moments in his life that have been really hard
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: for him. And I'm hesitant to just like jump into
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: this being like Okay, this is all good, knowing that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like his brother's fragile in a lot of ways, like
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: he's he's been through some stuff. Again, that's where wisdom
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: comes from. Um, I guess I've never had this experience,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and I want to hear from you on what your
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: take is. I've I've had low moments in my life,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and I've had friends who've had low moments. I've had
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a friend with me, lived with me for seven months
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: after his divorce, and to have the whole family go hey,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I've never seen Zack smile like this is beautiful? Yet?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Is it also a little bit like would it be
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: weird as you as a family member to go, hey,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like what was happening with Zack before this show? Because
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: he's obviously had time to heal. He's obviously, you know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: done great things when it comes to rehab and in
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: his involvement with the rehabilitation clinic. But like the fact
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that Zack hasn't smiled like this before, Uh, is either
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a really beautiful thing or it's like why not? Like
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: was it really he's just waiting for his Tasia. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: think that there's like a sliver of me that that
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: question cross my mind while watching this. I guess like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you can sort of say, like, is this the kind
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of person who needs somebody in their life to like
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: they're dependent on for happiness? Or and like this is
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the kind of person that can't be happy on their own.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like you can sort of question at I'm going to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: say in this case, like I don't believe. I don't
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: think that this is something to be concerned about. I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: think that, Like I'm just really excited because it's like
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the cherry on top of his Sunday, Like he's feeling
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: complete and like I know that like a lot of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: people say, and I agree to a certain extent, like
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you should be complete on your own and you should
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: be happy on your own. But I also, you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I love a good old Jerry Maguire line, you complete me,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Like I just don't think that that's like a bad
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: thing to say. You know, you enhance me, you know uh,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And I think that, Like Zach is definitely enhanced by Tasha.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that like was so big
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: here was that he said, I'm fine on my own.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I don't need to get married and I don't need
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to have a family, like I'm cool with being an uncle.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: But then he tells his mom that he's ready, like
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he actually was lying to himself and he was lying
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to everybody else when he said that, because with Tasha
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he's able to openly say that that is what he
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: does crave in life. That was so huge, huge, actually,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: like it's not under estimate just how big that is.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: So um, I don't know if I've ever shared this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: with you. My mom listens to the podcast, she should
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: know this moment, but probably four years ago, not three
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: years ago. I looked at her and I said, Mom,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm okay that being
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: single feels like something that maybe is meant for me,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and I would love one day to find a partner,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's the thing that I'm
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: meant to do, and and I just want you to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: know that and be okay with that, so that like
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you're not questioning where I'm at in life. And that
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: was a really hard thing for me to say to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: my mom because I'm an only child. My mom and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: dad want grandchildren, and I wanted to bring them grandchildren.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: But it was something that I needed to say to
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: her because I was at that place mentally, and I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: was also at that place over a lot, like through
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: many seasons of prayer. And but then I also know
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the reverse side of that is when you finally look
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: at your parents again, you say I'm in love with
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: this woman. She's an incredible partner. She enhances my life,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm ready to do this now. Like in a sense,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not, but like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: in a sense, you have to hit I don't want
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to call it rock bottom, because being singles not rock bottom,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: but you have to come to a moment of clarity
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: within yourself and then once like you do find that
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: partner that matches everything that you didn't think you're gonna find.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe that does bring the smile to Zack's face that
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, Like maybe that is just like this
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: internal thing inside of him. He's going, Holy God, I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: didn't know this existed, and now I feel something I've
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: never felt before, totally down. Do you think that you
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: are lying to yourself and your mom when you said
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that three years ago? I don't. I think I think
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I was. I think I was prepared to always be single.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I think I was okay with that. But preparing yourself
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: because like you wanted, like you wanted to be okay
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: if that happened, Like you're kind of reassuring yourself that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you'd be okay. Sorry not to go to no, you know, exactly. No.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair because I think there's a lot
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of probably like parallels between what Zach was communicating to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: his mom and what I was communicating communicating to mine.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Is Yeah, you have to get to a place where
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you're okay with it now knowing that like you never
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: dreamed of that. However, you know there's value in being single. Uh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with being single. And I think I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: had to get to a place to say, if this
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: is what my life's gonna look like, I'm okay with
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it um now Again to go back to Zack, I'm
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: answering my own question earlier. But like when you finally
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: find that partner that you feel like fits what it
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is you're looking for and that looks back at you
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: and says I. And I don't think Tasia has done
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: this quite yet, but like if she looks back at
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Zach and says, hey, I love you too, that moment
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: is is magical. It changes the heart, it changes the mind,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and it does bring a different kind of smile in
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: peace to your life. That maybe that is what Zack's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: feeling right now. I get it because you don't think
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it exists. Yeah, it's so good. It's so good. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: just before we wrap up, Zach state, I think it's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: also important you or you're talking about how each of
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the guys seem to like, like love their family even
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: more after going through this experience. I want to mention
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: that he says to his mom that, like the impact
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that he that she's had on his life is like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: so huge that he wouldn't be alive if it weren't
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: for her strength. And and for me, you guys know, like,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've been hiding it, Like Zach is
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: on who I want her to end up with. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: think that Ivan and Brendan are so sweet. I think
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: they're going to make the most fantastic husbands, Like they're
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like some of the most quality guys we've seen on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the show. But I think, like with Zach and watching
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that fifteen minutes segment with him, like that feels like love,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Like that just feels like where Tasia is meant to be.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I think the other two with you know, Ivan and Brendan,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of potential in those
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: situations and in those families, But I just didn't feel
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: like it was like as strong as a like I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: just felt like she was at home with Zach, it's uh,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and she she almost has this giddiness around Zach that
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I see around these other guys,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Like it's almost like she's a little nervous um and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: there's like a serious passion. And it's not just cute,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you know, like the other two it's cute Cie, but
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: with him it's like sexy. It's like heavier. Does that
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: make a sense. Also, like the Jersey girl and Me
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: has like a sweet spot for Zack too when they
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: go through all the New York things. The whole hailing
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a cab was very cute, the pizza and the bagel,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Like I was all in so good. Now can we
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: pause here, though, Ash, because there's one thing about this
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: episode and I've kind of like just like pounded it
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: now to the ground. But the one thing that stands
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: out this episode is I don't remember today a more authentic,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: a more heartfelt hometown episode than this one. Like again,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: for Zach to say that to his mom, those are
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: life changing moments for his mother, Like his mom will
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: never forget those words that she said to him on
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that date, Like Brendan's brother won't forget it Ivan's brother
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: won't forget it, Like, these moments are things like I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: know from my experience, and I'm sure you can say
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the same about you. These moments are ones that I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: still keep with me to this day, knowing that when
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I was at my like most like lonely place during
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the time on the show, I just recognized again the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: people in my life that had always had my back,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and I just wanted to tell them, like I just
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to shout out from the rooftop to these are
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: good people. I love you, You've got me here. And
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: for Zach to say that to his mom in this
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: moment is like, it's just so powerful and it's just
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: so good about this show that the show does that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: in these moments. I completely agree. I loved it so much.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: We've just broken down three days here, Ivan, Brendan in
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Zack's and they were all powerful in their own way. Um.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: The one obviously that turns a little bit at the
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: end is Bens. But before we get into ben'smith stake,
• 48:24
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• 48:26
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  Speaker 1: we're back. And I'm glad that we separated this date
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: from the other three. The other three really feel cohesive
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: together with me and then with Ben. I'm gonna have
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a really challenging time describing what I was going through.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I was feeling detached, I feel like, and I feel
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: like I felt detached a lot from Ben. And I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: know that when I asked people, you know, when I'm
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: out and about and anybody comes up to me. When
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I read our message boards, I see that a lot
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of people love Ben. They're really rooting for him to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: go all the way. And I felt like very held
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: back and saying that like that I've been rooting for
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: him because because I don't know that I have UM.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's had like a lot of powerful
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: stories and he's been a strong character. I think he's
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: very cute. I think that he's a sweet guy. But
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: there's been like something holding me back from from feeling them.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: And maybe it's because he is so guarded, and you
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: see that his family friend and his sister both talk
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: about how guarded he is. And perhaps it's because you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the depression that he's gone through, or like past experiences
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: with girls. But there's been something about him for me
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that just like radiates and like, I'm so sorry if
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I get this wrong. This is just what my gut's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: been saying. But he just seems like the guy to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: me that takes you on a few great dates you're
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: totally swooned by, and then you don't hear from him.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: And maybe and maybe it's because he's scared, and he's
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: like the guy that she's scared to jump into a
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: relationship if he starts feeling feelings, or maybe he's just
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: not ready. I don't know. I've and then and then
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: we get to this day and I just feel like
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: there was like something lingering in the air that just
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: didn't feel it made me feel like I just don't
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: want her to end up with him. There's something about
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: this like I'm worried for her, her if she picks
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: him in the end. So that's why I was a
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: little bit relieved seeing him go home, as hard as
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that is to I about someone well. And like you know, Forbiden,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: he's guarded. Yeah, he has opened up with some very
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: heavy things throughout this whole season, and you know he's
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: talked to Tasha about these things. There is one thing left,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: There's one thing left forbid to do that kind of
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: kind of wrapped the bow on top of their story,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and that is to tell Tasia exactly how he feels
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: um And so we're kind of waiting for that pinnacle moment, right.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: But also noticed that normally in the hometown dates, there's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I'd say, there's like some expectation to say I love you, Right,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: that's when you start saying I'm falling in love with
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you or I love you. And that's like kind of
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: the way that they closed the card door at the
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: end of the night and drive off this I felt
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: like there wasn't that sort of pressure here. Maybe it's
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: because you know that she's had less weeks with them
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: at this point. Um. But but there was pressure for
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: for Ben to say it. And maybe it's just because
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Ben has been quieter about revealing his feelings. Yeah, well,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you know the truth. This whole thing is, we're waiting
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: for this and it just didn't happen, and it felt
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like the whole date fell short because the whole story
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: wasn't being told right. Ben is convinced by uh, the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: ladies in his life during the state that he is
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: in love, and he goes, I am in love now
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: being convinced that you're in love. I think he already
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: knew it, um, but he had to be told it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: And so then the response is, well, is he ready
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: to tell Tasia this? Because it's getting down to the wire.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: There's some great men left. He knows that, and he
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't say it now. Actually, I want to ask you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: this because I don't remember past seasons very well, but
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: at this point in time, usually during a season like
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: there is some some more he did conversation amongst the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: families and amongst the contestants on hey, like, where are
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you at? Uh? If if he were to propose to you,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: would you say yes? Like we only see it was
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Zack's brother, where he's really the only one that fully
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: confronts the situation where it's like, hey, tell me where
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you're out with these other guys, because that's gonna help
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: me understand. Now, with Ben, it almost feels like it
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: would have helped out if he would have been pushed
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: even harder to say, Hey, Ben, if you feel this
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: way about Tasia, you need to tell her. If you don't,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: then stay quiet. Well he stayed quiet, and it left
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: a lot to be desired at the end of this
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: date because I went into the final Rows ceremony on
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: this show almost expecting Ben to go home because it
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: felt like there was so much confusion yet with Tasia,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and he had already so like if we go back
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: in their story, and I know we're houning this, but like,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: you go back in their story. Tasia had to directly
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: tell him Ben, I need you to show up. And
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: when I say show up, like I just need you
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to show up and be authentic and honest with me.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And he did it in parts right. He shared a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: lot about his story. It made sense to all of
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: us as viewers, but in the moment that she needs
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: him to show up the most, which is to say, hey,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I've obviously like I've heard your story, I care about
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: your story. I'm falling for you. He stays quiet, and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I just wonder, and I'm assuming here, I wonder if
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: in Tatia's mind she said, hey, like I needed somebody
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: show up. These other guys did show up. I've had
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: to tell Ben to show up to his face he didn't.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: And now now it needs to be done because I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: can't keep begging for something that I know exists yet
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: he won't confront it. Yeah. No, I guess I agree
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: with you. I just felt like it was like a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: dramatic turn. We he seems super happy with the family,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and then that they walk outside have that conversation on
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: the bench and she was like it's over, or like
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: she got she didn't say it's over. She showed obvious irritation,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and maybe, yeah, maybe it's just because she's like, Okay,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I've told you to open up a zillion times, and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: why do I have to tell you before you do
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: each time? Now? Yeah, and I think that would get frustrating,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like in a relationship, that would get tiring. Now, Bachelor
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Nation is going to freak out right like they love
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: all these guys. I think Ben obviously has a lot
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of support behind him, as he should, so this is
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be a very controversial exit. However, I do think
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: that the viewers will understand it if we do look
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: at it from that perspective of, Hey, I've asked you
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to show up, you didn't. Why do I always have
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to ask you to show up? And because you didn't
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this time, it's time for us to separate and go
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: our different ways. Yeah, I mean, let us know. Maybe
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: she had this hi sensus I had. I don't know.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit out of I'm not really like
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: at a loss for it. I feel like I need
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to watch it again. I need to watch that transition
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: from like leaving the family to going on the bench
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: and then her walking away from him all irritated. Well,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: there's a lot left unsaid. I think that's the best
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: way to summarize that. Now. Obviously, we see the end
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of the episode where Ben does go home, he does
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: not receive a rose. It is a very heartfelt exit.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: We see Tatian been sitting on the bench together, um
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: and it hurts and I think it hurts them both.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I think there's frustration probably between them both you. Hear
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Ben say, uh, once again, I messed up. Um he
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: it's hard now to backtrack and try to fix it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: So we see been going home and we're left with
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: three great guys, Ivan, Zack, and Brendan walking into Fantasy
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Suite week. Uh, which will be a huge week for
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: them and their relationship ships. Ashley, We're gonna pause again here,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: what an episode it was. I think this was. I mean,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I think the best way to summarize the hometowns this
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: season are authentic, heartfelt, um and heart pulling. Uh. But
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: let's take a break and we come back. We're gonna
• 59:15
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  Speaker 1: tell all or wasn't part of this uh. She also
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, as we said, like, no need to
• 1:03:12
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• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: talks about uh some mystery Bachelor lum joining Matt James's cast.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: This is a big deal, now, Ashley, you are in
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the know when it comes to Bachelor Nation. What tell
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  Speaker 1: us about the story? And then who do you think
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  Speaker 1: it is so interesting? Right? Well, a lot of people
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: are thinking it's Hannah because Hannah of course created a
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  Speaker 1: great friendship with Matt during the quarantine crew when they
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• 1:04:44
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  Speaker 1: notice if somebody has been off Instagram for a week.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If it was a major character in
• 1:04:56
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• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: But if it was, you know, somebody that maybe hasn't
• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: away with not having their phone for a while and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: people people wouldn't catch up, catch on, catch onto it. So, UM,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys send in your theories. Um,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be Hannah. I don't
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: think it's hand it's an at all. I think that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: if there is any spark there, it would have already,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: you know, um been experimented with. I also think that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: she and Matt have a very strong friendship. Those are
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the vibes that we've gotten through their social media. So
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a gas for fun. Jen Saviano
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: uh interesting from the twentie season of the Bachelor, which
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: which I was able to take part in that would
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: be interesting. Um yeah, I'm thinking it's somebody like from
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: like my season. Like, I'm thinking somebody that has been
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: in the franchise a bit hasn't found love. Uh saw
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Matt James and like this is my dude, and went
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: on to give it a shot, And that would be awesome, right,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a cool thing to have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows who it is now Matt James wild ride
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: is continuing. Chris Harrison is speaking out a lot right
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: now about this season. There's obviously a lot of press
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: around it. But there's a funny story that goes on
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: where Chris Harrison admits that Matt James had no idea
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: what a roast ceremony was. Uh. This according to US Weekly,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: which means that he never watched Tyler's season with Hannah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess. Yeah. So Harrison said that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes the producers would just be like explaining how a
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: day was gonna go. He's like, we'd all be talking
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: like a thousand miles an hour, just like assuming that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: he knew the ropes, and then Matt would stop them
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, guys, I don't know what they're saying.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: He even said, I don't know what a rose ceremony is,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: and he's like and then like the producers are like, wow, um,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Okay, we've gotta teach this guy a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: thing or two. Harrison also recently said that there were
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: times throughout the season where he and Matt had words
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: with each other. He also said that there were moments
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: where they hugged and loved each other. He said, he's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: a He's a terrific man. H he loved going through
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: this with them, But he said, like, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: go through those like highs and lows, you're probably not
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  Speaker 1: doing it right. So maybe there's not anything to like
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  Speaker 1: really worry about. What like we had words with each other,
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  Speaker 1: but like you didn't have words of Harrison while filming
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  Speaker 1: your season. I feel like a lot of bachelors don't
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: get heated with Harrison. Do you think this is just
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  Speaker 1: like some good click bait for us, like a nice
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  Speaker 1: a nice quote or is there really going to be
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  Speaker 1: some friction there? I think there's friction, uh, And I
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  Speaker 1: think they have a lot of respect for each other
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  Speaker 1: from everything I understand about how this season is, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about the outcome. But I
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  Speaker 1: do know, uh, you know who Matt is. I've been
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  Speaker 1: talking a few times. I think he stands strong and
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  Speaker 1: the things he believes, and I think Harrison stands strong
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  Speaker 1: and thing he thinks he believes, which is a fair
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  Speaker 1: thing to do, right. Nobody's asking the Bachelor bachel arette
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  Speaker 1: just to uh, you know. It's one of the cool
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  Speaker 1: parts about being the lead. There's no rules, and so
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  Speaker 1: if you want to stand up for something, stand up
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  Speaker 1: for it. And I'm sure there is moments during this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing where Matt said no, I'm not doing that
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  Speaker 1: or I don't agree with this, and that's a terrific
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  Speaker 1: thing to do. Everybody always wants to blame editing and
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  Speaker 1: producers for everything, but I've preached it since the time
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  Speaker 1: I got the show. You have every ability to say no,
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  Speaker 1: like and like everybody's gonna agree, Like, nobody's gonna fight
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  Speaker 1: you on that. If you put your foot down and
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  Speaker 1: say I'm not doing that or I'm not gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna behave this way or whatever, the producer will say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's your call. And so I hope Matt did that
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  Speaker 1: because I think he's a good dude. I think when
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  Speaker 1: he does that, it's going to be for the right reasons,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's not the best decision. I think he's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: gonna have the best intentions when he puts his foot down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be super good.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Now here's a little going back to Claire for a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: secondnother headline that just came up this week. It's just
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  Speaker 1: super interesting. Uh. Yeah, you know, we've we've not doubted
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: that Claire was very excited about dating Dale. In fact,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: if you remember right, she left this season a few
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: weeks into date Dale. Uh, and then on the kind
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: of sit down with them, she told Dale that she
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: was like ready start having babies, and like that was
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: a moment that we all kind of went, oh no,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: because he kind of reacted hesitantly. Well, Claire Crawley clarifies
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: this week she has to clarify her relationships at US
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  Speaker 1: with Dale Moss after calling him her husband. This according
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  Speaker 1: to US Weekly, on Thursday night, they were around New York,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, and she says, nothing makes me happier. Maybe
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it was South Dakota, I don't know. It looked cold
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: outside and it was dark, and she said nothing makes
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: me happier than grocery shopping with my husband. And I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: was like okay. So then of course she post another
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  Speaker 1: Instagram story slide and says slip of the tongue. We
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  Speaker 1: aren't married. It's like slip of the tongue. You've recorded
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  Speaker 1: yourself saying it, then you pressed send, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: pressed upload that was on a slip of the tongue.
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  Speaker 1: That was like, no, that was something to get people talking.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't you know what, Like,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: if it was meant to get people talking, then that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: was a very strategic move. However, I see it more
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  Speaker 1: being like a slip of the tongue. Yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like she's just overly excited. Not overly, I mean, she's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: engaged in love with this dude, so I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you can be overly excited about the future. I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: think she's just so excited that she said it, posted it,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: and then realized, oh no, I got a backcheck. However,
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  Speaker 1: I never thought about it. It It could definitely be a
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  Speaker 1: strategic move to get people talking. It would feel weird,
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  Speaker 1: like that's you, that's just exactly you telling Jess that
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: she's I can't I love going grocery shopping with my wife.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't do that, no, because yeah, exactly. Like if anything,
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  Speaker 1: I still like at times like call her my girlfriend.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like I'm always one step behind. Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm super excited about marrying the girl, but like I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: still like, for whatever reason, and more likely to refer
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to her as my girlfriend. I'm getting better at fiance.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting used to it were a few months into that,
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  Speaker 1: see my Like, I think that girlfriend and fiance are
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: way more aligned than fiance and wife. So maybe it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: just personal preference or like the way that we think
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: of marriage, because I was like, all about official, official, official, official,
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  Speaker 1: Like with Jared, I would like, I need to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that that marriage certificate was like signed in scent
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and all of that. The day that we got married,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Like I was like, I wanted to be official before
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  Speaker 1: I call you husband, Like I don't want to just
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: have the ceremony, And I was like, I want it
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: in in spirituality sense and in we goes sense. Until
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I say this, man, I don't know. Well, it's definitely
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: a headline interesting to read. Well, another headline on the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: final headline when we are all celebrating, uh, Emily Ferguson,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: who you know from the twenty season of The Bachelor
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: with their on there with their sister Haley Um Bachelor's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: star Emily Ferguson engaged to William Carlson. The quote is
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  Speaker 1: I get to marry the man of my dreams. As
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: according to people, this was so exciting, so very funny
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: story on my I Don't get a podcast. This week
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: we had Emily come on. We were talking a little Bachelor.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, my other podcast is called I Don't
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Get It, So you come with an I don't get
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: it in mind before we talk about whatever topic you're
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: going to talk about. And she said, my biggest I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: don't get it is why will hasn't proposed to me.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: It just makes no sense. We've been together for three years. Lull.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: She's like, you know, in her classic Emily fashion, just
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: venting so honestly and hilariously about how he had yet
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: to pop the question. She's like, I think Haley might
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: get engaged before me. I'm like, so over, it's exhausting waiting.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: And then I pull up my Instagram a couple of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: days ago and I see that ring on her finger
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: and like that very engaging looking posts and I was like,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: no way, that's so awesome, that's so so awesome. So yes,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: they got engaged on Sunday. Uh. You know, he's a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: professional hockey player. He plays for the Vegas Nights. They've
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: been together for three years and you can see the
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: video on her Instagram. The way he did it was
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: so funny because we all know that Emily and Haley
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: like love to be done up, their hair done, their
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: makeup done like a cute outfit that you know, that's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: just them. They don't really show themselves off like without
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: being really done up. And he decided to propose to
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: her when they were on a hike. She was wearing
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: a sweatshirt, sweatpants, she had her hair in a bun.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: She had just gotten a fresh spray tan, so she
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: may have been like a little bit orange. And she
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: says in the video, she goes, are you you're doing
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: this now? Like? Why are you doing this now? It
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: was so on brand for her. I loved it. It
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: was great. Well, hey, we'll celebrate Emily uh and William
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: her fiance. What a thing to have. Love exists everywhere. Well, hey,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Tasha's story of love is going to continue, obviously, next
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: week with the Fantasy Sweets. Will be here to break
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: down the Fantasy Sweets episode. It's going to be one
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: that is very tolling to I imagine these guys are
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: so in love. It's so in love, so emotional, so real,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: so authentic. What a great season so far. We'll be
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: back next week with the Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for
• 1:14:58
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