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Episode 457 - Windows 10 Workarounds, Webcam or Facetime and 3D Printing · TechtalkRadio

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Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hi,
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Speaker 1: this is Adrian Barbo. You're listening to tech Talk Radio
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna learn a lot. Welcome to another episode
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Speaker 1: of tech Talk Radio.
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Speaker 2: I'm a D. Taylor.
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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sean de Weird and I'm justin Lemme lot
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Speaker 1: going on in the world of tech. We're one week
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Speaker 1: away from Windows ten support ending, and it seems to
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Speaker 1: you like every everywhere you look, every broadcast, news channel,
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Speaker 1: every feed on tech blogs is all talking about this.
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Speaker 1: How Windows eleven if you haven't upgraded yet, you got
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Speaker 1: to upgrade. And you know, I don't know if it's
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Speaker 1: fear or whatnot, but Microsoft keeps making some changes too
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Speaker 1: along the way, fighting these people who are trying to
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Speaker 1: hold on to Windows ten.
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Speaker 3: The frustration I've seen is that they've just kind of
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Speaker 3: blanket statement said we're done, and they've made it seem
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Speaker 3: like nobody's gonna support Windows ten forever again. Or you
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Speaker 3: could pay the thirty dollars for the non proversion or
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Speaker 3: the sixty dollars for the pro version to get in
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Speaker 3: their year, and then I'm sure you're able to pay
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Speaker 3: as the years go on, pay some more money. To
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Speaker 3: keep support. But what I've seen is corporations that security
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Speaker 3: is a big deal, that's just important. But you've seen
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Speaker 3: it from large corporations just go every Windows ten machine's gone.
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Speaker 3: I've seen pictures on Reddit and stuff of paletts of
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Speaker 3: Windows ten machines just being shipped out and surplussed, and
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Speaker 3: some of them are running I nines with sixty four
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Speaker 3: gigs of ramp. I've been seeing people salvaging these from
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Speaker 3: corporations that are getting rid of all these Windows te
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Speaker 3: machines that are really good machines. One piece of it
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Speaker 3: can't support Windows ten or Windows eleven, or they just
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Speaker 3: are wholesalling all these computers to get new machines that
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Speaker 3: support Windows eleven. I just don't understand the mass, fleeting,
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Speaker 3: panic and leaving of Windows.
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Speaker 1: Ten justin you're in it, Like, how does an organization
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Speaker 1: look at this to try and to deal with this?
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I've just I've just been slowly but
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Speaker 4: surely just removing Windows ten from any computer that I
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Speaker 4: possibly can. You know, when it comes up to it.
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Speaker 4: We do have some point of sale machines that running
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Speaker 4: Windows ten, but we actually paid Microsoft for extended support
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Speaker 4: so we can have those machines supported with all the
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Speaker 4: updates for I want to say it's probably twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, maybe, I think so, we've got a
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Speaker 4: couple more years of support on those. But yeah, if
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Speaker 4: it's like an end user computer, I'm just nope, sorry,
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Speaker 4: you're running Windows eleven. But how far away are we
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Speaker 4: from Windows eleven be an end of support. I mean,
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Speaker 4: they haven't even announced Windows twelve yet. Usually they've got
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Speaker 4: before they end support on one, they've got one out,
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Speaker 4: another one out, and then one announced and on the way.
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Speaker 4: They haven't even said anything about Windows twelve.
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Speaker 1: We've heard little bits like Windows twelve will do this,
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Speaker 1: we'll do that, it will.
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Speaker 2: Be cool, it will be good.
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Speaker 1: And in the timeline of Microsoft, how you look at
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Speaker 1: how they distribute their versions of software, it should be
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Speaker 1: the one that is really good. That's got to get
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Speaker 1: people concerned too, is you know, Microsoft suddenly going to say, well, sorry,
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Speaker 1: you can't use it anymore, We're not going to do
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Speaker 1: the updates. And that's the frustration for a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I can pay thirty dollars and then I
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Speaker 1: get the updates for another year, or I can back
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Speaker 1: up my one drive and then people go, well, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, why don't you just give me the security
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Speaker 1: updates so I.
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Speaker 2: Can run ten anyways? You know why not?
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Speaker 1: Even the Federal Trade Commission is saying, well, wait a minute, Microsoft,
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Speaker 1: what's going on here? They've started to question some of
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Speaker 1: the madness behind all of this. People are kind of upset.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can see, I can understand why
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Speaker 4: people are upset, and you know, we might touch upon
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Speaker 4: them up later on the show. But Microsoft is making
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Speaker 4: all kinds of mistakes right now. I mean with Xbox
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Speaker 4: Game Pass and everything else. I mean, they're just they're
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Speaker 4: really screwing the pooch here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 1: One of the things though, okay, for security sake, two
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Speaker 1: PPM two point zero Secure boot. They say it will
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Speaker 1: bring a more secure environment for somebody. You know, we
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Speaker 1: were able to install rufous on this machine, which is
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Speaker 1: just one generation short of making the Windows eleven I
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Speaker 1: have a TPM two point zero, the whole bit, but
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't it wouldn't allow it. So we went ahead
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Speaker 1: and went the rufous route and got Windows eleven installed.
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Speaker 1: But for the sake of security, wouldn't it make sense?
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Speaker 1: Though most people should have that kind of security enabled
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Speaker 1: to be able to really benefit from from that. I'm
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Speaker 1: not really sold on TPM, the TBM architecture, no matter
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Speaker 1: one point oh, two point oh whatever, three point zero tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: I'm not really sold on it.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the pressure for TPM two
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Speaker 3: point zero is coming from it's a hardware module that exists, right,
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Speaker 3: and you're seeing a lot of the anti cheats having
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Speaker 3: to be installed at the bios or the root level
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Speaker 3: of your machine.
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Speaker 2: We were talking anti cheat, you're talking about video games.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, video game anti cheat, right, It's a big problem
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Speaker 3: in the gaming industry, and that's been the big push
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Speaker 3: for it is game are requiring you to have TPM
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Speaker 3: two point zero installed to run their games.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Activisions Activision apparently has said, which is owned by Microsoft.
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Speaker 1: Activision claims ninety seven percent of cheaters it catches and
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Speaker 1: called it duty Black Ops seven are banned within thirty minutes,
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Speaker 1: and they say it's all because of secure boot and ricochet.
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Speaker 1: They say that they actually check if you want to
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Speaker 1: play the game. To be able to play the game,
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Speaker 1: you have to have TPM two point zero and you
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Speaker 1: have to have secure boot. If you at hont have
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Speaker 1: that you're not gonna be able to play. Battlefield six
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Speaker 1: apparently also requires secure boot as well, so that that
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Speaker 1: actually means that a lot of people who want to
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Speaker 1: play that maybe aren't even on that platform, are not
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to play.
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Speaker 3: My problem.
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Speaker 4: My problem right with the whole TPM or you know,
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Speaker 4: the easy NCHET or whatever you want to call it,
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Speaker 4: You're you're allowing a kernel level access to your machine.
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Speaker 4: If and that that is a massive mass a security flaw.
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Speaker 4: If anybody ever finds a way to get into and
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Speaker 4: exploit TPM or exploit secure boot or anything like that,
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Speaker 4: it is going to destroy millions of computers instantly. Don't
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Speaker 4: ever allow kernel level access to anything. If they're saying, oh,
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Speaker 4: this is for video games, there are so many people
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Speaker 4: out there that don't play video games.
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Speaker 1: Why do I need TPM? I don't play video games
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Speaker 1: if I mean personally I do. But I'm saying, as
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Speaker 1: a person who doesn't play video games, why would they
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Speaker 1: need TPM. It just doesn't make any sense. I just
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Speaker 1: don't agree with it. Like they say, Oh, it's going
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Speaker 1: to protect you, it's secure, it's secure.
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Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, you were mentioning something earlier though that Microsoft
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Speaker 1: is continuing kind of it's push you know. Of course
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Speaker 1: they'll give you the access to be able to continue
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Speaker 1: to run Windows ten and get the security updates if
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Speaker 1: you allow it to back up to one drive. The
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Speaker 1: downside to that, to ask me, is is that you know, okay, well,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? The problem is one drive only
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Speaker 1: has a certain a limit when it comes to capacity
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Speaker 1: for the for the free one drive, if you signed
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Speaker 1: up five gig five gig, So if you go be
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Speaker 1: on five gig, which you've experienced before, then you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to pay for that storage.
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Speaker 2: So either way you may end up paying paying out money.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's confusing to use and end users, right.
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Speaker 3: I helped my father in law build his Windows eleven machine,
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Speaker 3: and I tried to do it without without what. I
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Speaker 3: tried to do it with the no pass command line
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Speaker 3: piece that that you know that's been floating around. Didn't work.
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Speaker 3: I had to create account. It created an account. Then
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Speaker 3: he started to move his deveover from flash drives and
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Speaker 3: then he called me and said says, I'm out of storage.
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Speaker 3: I was like, bro, you just got a two gig
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Speaker 3: tear two terriby driving there. How are you out of space?
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Speaker 3: Well says I only have five gigs And as soon
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Speaker 3: as you said that I do, it was one drive.
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Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm frustrated about that, just like a
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Speaker 3: lot of other people are that it's forcing you to
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Speaker 3: create these these Microsoft accounts, like why, oh, it just
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Speaker 3: serves me ads, it's.
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Speaker 2: To get my data their AI.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's just I don't have the disceassity like
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Speaker 3: the platforms in place that go Linux everything. I would
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Speaker 3: love to. It's just there are certain things that I
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Speaker 3: need Windows for. I have a couple of macs that
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Speaker 3: I use and I would love to go Linux, and
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Speaker 3: but I just you know, would have to get Caitlin
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Speaker 3: on board with that. I'd have to. But this, I
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Speaker 3: just don't want the bloat that comes with it, and
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Speaker 3: tying it to a Microsoft account, it just it ties
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Speaker 3: you it. I don't know, it's just frustrating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, people have to understand there are
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Speaker 1: options and that's the thing to And I've noticed I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it's just me, but it seems like
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Speaker 1: Apple has been kind of I don't say slashing the prices,
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Speaker 1: but it noticed that some of the pricing on their
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Speaker 1: you know, MacBooks and and that type of thing seems
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Speaker 1: to be a little more affordable.
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Speaker 3: And their prices have come down right for their entry
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Speaker 3: level right. And the big part of one of their
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Speaker 3: releases I think earlier this year was upping the base
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Speaker 3: level of RAM and their MacBooks to sixteen gig because
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Speaker 3: they had been at eight for a long time, and
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Speaker 3: they finally bumped up to sixteen for their minimum state.
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Speaker 3: Like there, you can't get anything with less than sixteen.
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Speaker 3: But with their M chips right and their development of
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Speaker 3: their own M chips, they've been able to significantly drop
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Speaker 3: the prices on their Mac Mini models, their iMac models,
9:23
Speaker 3: their MacBook models, things like that. So you can build
9:26
Speaker 3: a decent PC for five six hundred bucks that can
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Speaker 3: do a lot of things. You'd be hard pressed to
9:32
Speaker 3: find a computer that can compete with, say like an
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Speaker 3: M four Macmini for five ninety nine. If you were
9:40
Speaker 3: into the types of things you would use a Mac
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Speaker 3: Mini for video editing, video processing, photo processing, photo editing,
9:46
Speaker 3: those types of things. You'd be better off building a
9:49
Speaker 3: PC if you want to do gaming that type of stuff.
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Speaker 3: Because the Steam libraries are more, there's more Steam stuff.
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Speaker 3: The more Steam sport or build a Linux machine. Windows
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Speaker 3: or Linux is going to be better for gaming than
9:58
Speaker 3: a Mac. But gaming on Mac is coming along. It
10:01
Speaker 3: just hasn't always been there. But their prices are very
10:05
Speaker 3: competitive on their desktop models.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So say somebody listening to the show right now
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Speaker 1: is saying, okay, I have a Windows seven computer. Originally
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Speaker 1: I updated it to ten and I've used it and
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Speaker 1: it's been great. But now you know, there's no way
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to go to to
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Speaker 1: you know, Windows eleven. What are the steps they would
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Speaker 1: need to do if they decide maybe I'll go ahead
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Speaker 1: and put Linux on this machine.
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Speaker 2: I mean, is it a difficult process.
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Speaker 3: No, no, it's not a difficult process. I will make
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Speaker 3: a comment though, if you're going from seven to ten
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Speaker 3: and you use your license to go to ten from seven,
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Speaker 3: that license from ten is good to go to eleven,
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Speaker 3: you can get that license will get you to eleven.
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Speaker 3: So I don't want people to be like, oh I
10:52
Speaker 3: have to I have to go out and buy a
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Speaker 3: copy of Windows eleven. If you want to upgrade to
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Speaker 3: pro or a different version, yes, then you need to
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Speaker 3: buy a license, But or ten license is good for
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Speaker 3: a license for what is loving with the same version
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Speaker 3: of Windows.
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Speaker 1: So if you're bernal, if you're running Windows seven though Box,
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Speaker 1: it probably is not gonna have the TPM two point zero,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna have the secure boot.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's r.
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna have anything. I mean, if you're running
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Speaker 1: a Windows seven or if you bought it or built
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Speaker 1: it at a Windows seven, the hardware is so out
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Speaker 1: of date anyway, it's time to build a new computer,
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Speaker 1: right And that's what a lot of people are gonna
11:32
Speaker 1: have to make that decision, you know, building and they
11:35
Speaker 1: have what a less than a week now to get
11:38
Speaker 1: that done.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean like if some people, is my Windows
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Speaker 1: ten machine not gonna work on the fifteenth, you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're gonna get a lot of people
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Speaker 3: that are going to have that that fear tactic of
11:51
Speaker 3: coming out and saying your tech Windows ten machine is
11:53
Speaker 3: gonna quit. I've gotten that from some of my elder
11:57
Speaker 3: family members. Oh hey, I know you're the computer guy,
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Speaker 3: but it's saying that it's going to be out of sports.
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Speaker 3: Is it going to stop working? No, it just means
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Speaker 3: that you're not going to get security updates for it.
12:06
Speaker 3: Here's a process you can give to just convincing people
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Speaker 3: that the computer boogeyman is not out to eat your
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Speaker 3: Windows ten machines.
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Speaker 1: I ended up posing one of my machines, and I'll
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Speaker 1: admit it, I really I did. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the heck I did. So I have an ass board,
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Speaker 1: I have a machine, uh, and I went ahead. Luckily
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Speaker 1: I made a copy of my SSD that had and
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Speaker 1: this is the one one of I have two computers
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Speaker 1: that both have the Adobe Suite on them, the one
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Speaker 1: that I cannot reinstall because it's you know, no, they
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Speaker 1: don't have the service activated.
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Speaker 2: So I don't want to mess with those.
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Speaker 1: But this machine, I wanted to see if I could
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Speaker 1: do an in place upgrade, so I made a copy
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Speaker 1: using a docking station and I've checked it.
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Speaker 2: Copy works great.
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Speaker 1: Then stupid me decided to go into the bios and
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Speaker 1: start messing around with UEFI and start trying to adjust
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Speaker 1: it so I could get it ready for updating it
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Speaker 1: to Windows eleven and doing trying to do an in
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Speaker 1: place upgrade.
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Speaker 2: And when I.
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Speaker 1: Finally got it to when I did all these changes
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Speaker 1: to the bios, I put the drive in to you know,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, let's just give this a shot. And
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Speaker 1: I got the error message the windloader was having a problem,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, well, what did I do? So I
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Speaker 1: took the original SSD put that in same thing. I
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Speaker 1: get the blue It's like a blue screen, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it got got some problems here. So
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Speaker 1: and I can't figure out. This is why I take
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Speaker 1: pictures of everything I do. Can't figure out what I
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Speaker 1: changed in the bios to get it to get back
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Speaker 1: so I could boot up to that. I was able
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Speaker 1: to with another drive I installed just a test. I
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Speaker 1: was able to install Windows eleven on it and do
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Speaker 1: it that way. But once up with this other drive,
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Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't do it.
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Speaker 3: So I think I know why.
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Speaker 2: Huh.
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Speaker 3: So if you changed it to secure boot and your
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Speaker 3: drive is set for Master Boot Record or NBR, it
14:15
Speaker 3: will not it will not read the drive. Well you
14:18
Speaker 3: once your once your once your bios is set for
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Speaker 3: u f I to secure boot TP two point zero.
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Speaker 3: If you change it to secure boot, it physic it
14:28
Speaker 3: your hard d. Your your hard drive is invisible if
14:30
Speaker 3: it's if it's formatted as an m BR, it is
14:33
Speaker 3: invisible to your machine period. Right, the only way to
14:37
Speaker 3: fix it is to format it for gpt AT, which
14:40
Speaker 3: I don't want to do, which you don't want to do.
14:42
Speaker 3: So if you want to get data off of it,
14:44
Speaker 3: I suggest you put it into an external doc copy
14:49
Speaker 3: it over from there if you want to, because it
14:51
Speaker 3: would be a USB drive or whatever be able to
14:53
Speaker 3: read it as an external drive versus an internal source drive.
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Speaker 3: If you're trying to boot from it.
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Speaker 2: You can't go back though.
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Speaker 1: I can't go back and just say okay, forget it,
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Speaker 1: just go back with the original Windows ten and saw
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Speaker 1: that I had on it. Mmm, probably not, so I'd
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Speaker 1: have to buy another board that isn't set for that
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Speaker 1: yet and hopefully it would.
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Speaker 3: Well, you can, you can. You could change it back
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Speaker 3: in the bios back to turn cabot off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And then this is what I ran into with one
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Speaker 3: of my work machines that didn't support this is the
15:21
Speaker 3: one that bricked the BIOS when I did this is
15:24
Speaker 3: it was trying to read a MBR drive and it
15:28
Speaker 3: locked up the BIOS and then in corrupted the BIOS
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Speaker 3: and I had to flash the BIOS back to yeah version.
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Speaker 1: I tried doing a BIO easy flash on it on
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Speaker 1: it to see if I could if that made a difference,
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Speaker 1: and it didn't. So yeah, gonna that's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: project this weekend.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But yeah, so I think that's something that it's
15:48
Speaker 3: going to confuse some people because a lot of older
15:51
Speaker 3: machines that were set for legacy bios before. Because U
15:55
Speaker 3: if I've been out for a while, right when, it's confusing,
15:59
Speaker 3: because everybody in the computer world calls it bios, right,
16:02
Speaker 3: It's just what it's been called for as long as
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Speaker 3: I've been playing with computers. Technically now it's called uf I. Okay,
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Speaker 3: it's not bios. Bios and uf I are two separate things,
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Speaker 3: but they are all the pre boot function. So it's
16:18
Speaker 3: like everybody's calls it bios. So sometimes if you call
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Speaker 3: it bios, it may not actually mean what you think
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Speaker 3: it means, but it can be confusing. I'm still gonna
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Speaker 3: everybody is. I'm just putting that out there. So like
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Speaker 3: if we're talking about bios and we're talking about Windows eleven,
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Speaker 3: we're likely talking about UFI, but we're saying bios.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I might just try every setting take
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Speaker 1: photos of every time I do anything any change, just
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Speaker 1: to try and figure it out. But yeah, that's the
16:44
Speaker 1: one thing. It wasn't being identified at all. And then
16:47
Speaker 1: I did one other change and then it was coming
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Speaker 1: up saying it was having a problem with the windloader.
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Speaker 2: I did notice that Rufus does have the ability to.
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Speaker 1: Install Windows eleven to an MBR, which that was like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's good, so you don't have to do you know,
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Speaker 1: GPTU install on that. It will install to an MBR,
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Speaker 1: which is good.
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Speaker 3: That would allow you to that would allow you to
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Speaker 3: boot without secure boot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do the uh in place upgrade. So we'll
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Speaker 1: just have to see what has happened. I just don't
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Speaker 1: want to again. I'm keeping these drives put aside because
17:20
Speaker 1: I don't want to touch.
17:21
Speaker 2: I don't want to mess with them.
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Speaker 3: So to circle back to your original question, Yeah, h
17:26
Speaker 3: what would it takes for somebody to install Linux? Right?
17:29
Speaker 3: There are a handful of flavors of Linux, so you
17:32
Speaker 3: can get out there right. The popular ones would be
17:33
Speaker 3: like up on two or Linux Mint or a handful
17:36
Speaker 3: of other distributions. To go to Linux Mint, just google it,
17:41
Speaker 3: download it, flash it with rufus or Yummy or any
17:45
Speaker 3: of the other Blena etcher any of those and if
17:48
Speaker 3: you know how to get into your bios or hear you,
17:51
Speaker 3: if I pick that drive as your boot, install it
17:54
Speaker 3: and you can download it and be installed in fifteen
17:58
Speaker 3: to twenty minutes of it.
17:59
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah, all right cool. I like that.
18:02
Speaker 1: We do have listener questions this week, but we also
18:04
Speaker 1: want to cover some of the other announcements that have
18:07
Speaker 1: been made. And speaking of Linux, Sean, you were talking
18:11
Speaker 1: earlier a pre show, we were talking about Linux and distributions.
18:15
Speaker 1: I know, originally not long ago, I had tried win
18:18
Speaker 1: boon to and I liked it. It was a good experience. Again,
18:22
Speaker 1: it's for those that really want to have that Windows look.
18:24
Speaker 1: I mean even the screen looked like a Windows, you
18:27
Speaker 1: know Windows screen. We showed it on television and they
18:30
Speaker 1: were all commenting, that looks like Windows. It was win
18:33
Speaker 1: Boon too, and then it wasn't long after that though,
18:36
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people saying, no, you don't
18:39
Speaker 1: want to use that one. And now there's one that
18:41
Speaker 1: people are saying called win x wi n ux. But
18:45
Speaker 1: actually Boonto has got something new coming out and they've
18:49
Speaker 1: got a really good name for it, which I love.
18:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Ubuntu is always they hear. I'm just gonna
18:56
Speaker 3: read off to these if I say things like Wardy
18:59
Speaker 3: Wardhog or Breezy Badger or Feisty Fon like those are
19:03
Speaker 3: all released names for versions of Ubuntu Linux. And their
19:09
Speaker 3: new version is coming out April of twenty twenty six,
19:13
Speaker 3: so they just announced it and it's called the Resolute Raccoon.
19:18
Speaker 3: So that is the current that is the new name
19:20
Speaker 3: for Linux twenty six point zero four.
19:23
Speaker 2: Oh cool.
19:24
Speaker 3: So yeah, So if it's just kind of a fun
19:27
Speaker 3: thing to go back and look at it, and it
19:29
Speaker 3: can go all the way back if you go to
19:32
Speaker 3: just google it, you can find all the Linux names,
19:34
Speaker 3: but all the way from four point one to zero.
19:36
Speaker 3: At least this webpage hasn't listed. But it's Wardy Warhog.
19:39
Speaker 3: I mean, there's some other really fun ones that disc
19:42
Speaker 3: what is it, wreck something raccoon, Resolute raccoon.
19:45
Speaker 2: Resolute raccoon.
19:46
Speaker 3: All right.
19:47
Speaker 2: I have to tell you.
19:48
Speaker 1: On feedback that we got from some some of the
19:51
Speaker 1: videos we have put on YouTube shorts. You can watch
19:54
Speaker 1: our videos just look for a YouTube page tech talk Radio,
19:57
Speaker 1: but also on TikTok we had posted where we were
20:01
Speaker 1: talking about drive aware and that's a software program you
20:06
Speaker 1: can purchase and it will check your computer for you know,
20:10
Speaker 1: outdated drivers can do the updates. You mean driver easy,
20:15
Speaker 1: driver easy, I keep calling you drive aware. I was
20:17
Speaker 1: gonna say, what is driver driver easy easy? Yes, driver easy,
20:23
Speaker 1: that's the one I keep calling the other thing. Anyway,
20:25
Speaker 1: So I had posted the video and we had some
20:28
Speaker 1: good comments, This is cool, this is cool. But then
20:30
Speaker 1: we started getting the comments with like, you're putting malware
20:33
Speaker 1: on your computer. Uh. The guy that there's a guy
20:38
Speaker 1: here at the station that is a Linux pro and
20:42
Speaker 1: he said, oh, don't do that. He said, that's absolute malware, spyware.
20:47
Speaker 1: They're spying on you the whole bet. I I went
20:50
Speaker 1: ahead and I ran after I installed the driver easy,
20:56
Speaker 1: I got it right this time. I went ahead and
20:57
Speaker 1: installed malware bytes towards and I wanted to see what
21:03
Speaker 1: does malware bytes pick up? Didn't pick up a thing.
21:07
Speaker 4: I use not even just malware bytes. Now, malware bytes
21:12
Speaker 4: is consumer level, off the shelf, you know, standard malware software.
21:18
Speaker 4: I use malware bytes threat Down, which is their elite
21:21
Speaker 4: pro level all in one detection and remedy system with
21:28
Speaker 4: actual case managers that are alerted when there's something that
21:31
Speaker 4: pops up on your computer and they resolve it remotely
21:35
Speaker 4: without even having to have you be user interaction. And
21:37
Speaker 4: I pay thirty thousand dollars a year for this.
21:42
Speaker 2: This is for the corporate side of things.
21:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, of malware bytes threat down and it does not
21:47
Speaker 4: pick up anything when I put driver easy on the computer.
21:50
Speaker 4: So whatever this person is saying, there's a few Yeah.
21:54
Speaker 3: The stuff that I read because we've talked about this
21:55
Speaker 3: when I stalled R and I said that some people had.
21:57
Speaker 3: I saw the comments on our sorts and a lot
22:00
Speaker 3: of people are just saying, oh, it's a third party,
22:03
Speaker 3: it's not affiliated with Windows. Just to use the Windows
22:05
Speaker 3: Driver Update tool. If the Windows Update tool found the
22:09
Speaker 3: fourteen missing drivers that I had that helped stabilize my machine, fine, great, right,
22:16
Speaker 3: but do your job Windows or I won't have to
22:19
Speaker 3: go get third party software to do it for you. Yeah.
22:21
Speaker 2: These are just Linux.
22:23
Speaker 4: These are Linux geeks that are just like everything's Linux
22:25
Speaker 4: and there's as soon as you mentioned Windows are just
22:27
Speaker 4: like ugh clubs.
22:30
Speaker 3: Now, okay, So those people that say that third party
22:32
Speaker 3: software can be vulnerable malware stuff, right, that's there's a
22:36
Speaker 3: history of platforms being delivered with malware, right, that's just
22:41
Speaker 3: a security issue that you just pay attention and if
22:44
Speaker 3: you see it, get rid of it.
22:45
Speaker 2: It's a non issue. Don't even listen to that. It's
22:47
Speaker 2: just elitist.
22:48
Speaker 3: Is this elitists that are just saying, oh, I don't
22:51
Speaker 3: use that, so you can't use it because I said so.
22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I went, I went ahead and bought it
22:56
Speaker 1: after the show and ran it and yeah, it found
22:59
Speaker 1: something like seven teen drivers that were not installed that
23:02
Speaker 1: it could update my system with.
23:05
Speaker 2: And then you know, I was reading some of the
23:06
Speaker 2: comments and let me, let me check out malware bites.
23:09
Speaker 2: Put it on here.
23:11
Speaker 1: My subscription that I have to Semantec is going to
23:15
Speaker 1: be ending, uh in December.
23:17
Speaker 2: So because I.
23:18
Speaker 1: Were you paid, I paid for a year ahead, and
23:20
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be switching to Malwura Bites.
23:23
Speaker 1: Everybody's been telling me that. And it's been so frustrating
23:27
Speaker 1: with Semantic because I get pop ups all the time
23:31
Speaker 1: that hey, by this, let us check this.
23:34
Speaker 2: I not.
23:34
Speaker 4: I've hated Semantek for probably close to well over a decade.
23:37
Speaker 4: I've hated Semantek.
23:39
Speaker 2: Well they've they've been on the show before and they'd
23:41
Speaker 2: be great.
23:41
Speaker 1: You know, the product we looked at it was Hey,
23:44
Speaker 1: it was good for what it did, but they've gone
23:46
Speaker 1: off and branched into so many different directions that I
23:50
Speaker 1: just I I'm frustrated with it.
23:53
Speaker 2: Now.
23:53
Speaker 1: I am getting pop ups with Malura bites to buy
23:56
Speaker 1: more things. But again again that's because I haven't paid
23:59
Speaker 1: for it yet. As soon as I pay for it,
24:01
Speaker 1: I hope those go away.
24:02
Speaker 3: Well that's one of the big that's one of the
24:03
Speaker 3: biggest complaints about any third party software is there. They
24:07
Speaker 3: want your money. They are going to aggressively upsell you
24:10
Speaker 3: until you pay for a premium version. You are gonna
24:12
Speaker 3: get pop ups, so you're gonna get notifications, you're gonna
24:14
Speaker 3: get emails, you're gonna get phone calls, text messages, regular mail.
24:19
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna get it off from them because they
24:20
Speaker 3: want your business. But it doesn't mean that the product stinks.
24:24
Speaker 3: It's just they're salespeople trying to sell you something.
24:27
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a break. We come back.
24:29
Speaker 1: We've got a question about a webcam, so they want
24:33
Speaker 1: to know our thoughts on webcams. We'll tell you the
24:35
Speaker 1: situation when we come back with more of tech Talk Radio.
24:38
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor.
24:39
Speaker 3: I'm Sean de Weird and I'm justin.
24:41
Speaker 2: Let me be right back. Now back to TIK Talk Radio.
24:45
Speaker 4: All right, now we're back with a listener question. This
24:48
Speaker 4: one comes from Mary in Green Valley. I'm thinking about
24:51
Speaker 4: getting a webcam to talk with my sister who lives
24:53
Speaker 4: in Florida. I said we could FaceTime we both have iPhones,
24:57
Speaker 4: but she wants to do this over the computer. I
25:00
Speaker 4: need to get a webcam? Do I need to get
25:02
Speaker 4: a webcam for my computer? Any recommendations and the easiest
25:05
Speaker 4: way to do this is Skype still a thing? Well,
25:07
Speaker 4: first off, no, Skype is not a thing. Skype has
25:10
Speaker 4: been shut down about oOoOO.
25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got replaced.
25:14
Speaker 3: By crappy teams. Get out of here. Microsoft is the
25:18
Speaker 3: worst teams. They had such a good platform. I just
25:20
Speaker 3: don't get it. They had such a good platform with Skype.
25:23
Speaker 3: And you know, I was I had a Skype account
25:26
Speaker 3: from I think two thousand and four. Yeah, when I
25:29
Speaker 3: was in high school, we had a Skype account and
25:31
Speaker 3: then we used Skype for everything. Had the best little latency.
25:34
Speaker 3: But that's that's not the point.
25:35
Speaker 2: But boo, yeah, so you know you can't use Skype.
25:38
Speaker 4: You'd have to use teams or zoom.
25:42
Speaker 2: I don't even know if Google meat is even a thing.
25:44
Speaker 2: Any think Google Google still does you can.
25:46
Speaker 3: Do Google meat still, but I mean if to do
25:50
Speaker 3: it straightforwardly face like you said FaceTime in your question, right,
25:54
Speaker 3: that's still obviously the best thing if you have two iPhones,
25:56
Speaker 3: But to do it on a computer, it's harder without
25:59
Speaker 3: a platform.
26:00
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I.
26:03
Speaker 1: Don't even know why you'd want to do this with
26:04
Speaker 1: a computer. I mean, like, if you've got phones that
26:06
Speaker 1: do FaceTime, why why would why would you want to
26:09
Speaker 1: sit there with a computer and be sitting when like
26:12
Speaker 1: you can walk around with your device and be doing FaceTime.
26:15
Speaker 4: I just personally I don't get it. But that's your
26:17
Speaker 4: sister you're talking about, So to answer your.
26:19
Speaker 1: Question, maybe she's thinking that she'd have to hold the
26:22
Speaker 1: iPhone the whole time.
26:25
Speaker 2: You know, you could get it. They have mounts.
26:27
Speaker 1: They could actually go on your computer screen. You can
26:29
Speaker 1: just attach it to the side of the screen and boom,
26:31
Speaker 1: it's on there. That's actually that might even be a
26:34
Speaker 1: better way to go.
26:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just feel like you're taking so many
26:36
Speaker 3: more steps to try to do it on a computer,
26:38
Speaker 3: like you like Johnson said, you have to have a platform.
26:41
Speaker 3: It's got to be Discord. It's got to be Zoom.
26:44
Speaker 2: It's got to be Discord doesn't even do oh yeah
26:47
Speaker 2: it does, it does.
26:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. They do vidego, but this complicated. Then
26:50
Speaker 3: you got to make an account and then you gotta
26:51
Speaker 3: doss webcam.
26:55
Speaker 1: So Mary doesn't have a webcam. So it sounds to
26:58
Speaker 1: me like her situation is going to be the most
27:01
Speaker 1: easiest possible. So out of those out of teams Zoom, Uh,
27:07
Speaker 1: what else is there?
27:08
Speaker 2: Google?
27:08
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're just depreciating the value of
27:12
Speaker 3: the video call by trying to move it to a
27:13
Speaker 3: Windows platform. If you both have face time, that's going
27:16
Speaker 3: to be the superior experience there.
27:18
Speaker 4: You go, all right, Yeah, seriously, I mean I think
27:20
Speaker 4: I think you just need to tell your sister no,
27:21
Speaker 4: we're going to stay with FaceTime.
27:23
Speaker 2: Honestly.
27:25
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just going to work. It's
27:27
Speaker 3: the FaceTime platform is so good for people that are
27:31
Speaker 3: in the iOS ecosystem.
27:33
Speaker 1: Now, even even if you're not an iOS, maybe you
27:36
Speaker 1: have an Android and the sister has an iPhone, you
27:38
Speaker 1: could still do FaceTime. Yep, yeah, you can do. They
27:42
Speaker 1: fixed that on a couple of releases ago. So that's
27:45
Speaker 1: kind of cool, all right. So say she has to
27:47
Speaker 1: get a webcam, what is going to be the best
27:50
Speaker 1: option for her?
27:52
Speaker 2: I mean all of them have it.
27:53
Speaker 1: Elgado's got them, Logitech of course.
27:56
Speaker 2: What's going to be the best route for her to go?
27:59
Speaker 3: I mean you're gonna be able to go to best Buy,
28:03
Speaker 3: any big, any chain store and walk in and come
28:06
Speaker 3: out and come out with a twenty five dollars webcam
28:08
Speaker 3: that's going to look good. Yeah, I mean you can
28:11
Speaker 3: get one that's you can get them for under fifteen
28:14
Speaker 3: bucks probably if you really wanted to, but you're gonna
28:16
Speaker 3: pay for if you're looking for one that just as
28:19
Speaker 3: video no fun features, no lights, no bells and whistles,
28:24
Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty bucks, I bet from Walmart or best
28:26
Speaker 3: Buy or wherever your local grocery store is. They all
28:30
Speaker 3: have them now. But if you're looking for one that
28:32
Speaker 3: has good quality four K a microphone attached to it, right,
28:36
Speaker 3: because if you're if you're looking to talk without a
28:38
Speaker 3: headset and a microphone like we're doing on the show,
28:41
Speaker 3: that's a whole other level of cost. Right, Because if
28:45
Speaker 3: you pay go for a cheap one. You're not gonna
28:47
Speaker 3: sell very good, You're not gonna look very good.
28:49
Speaker 2: And then if if you.
28:50
Speaker 3: Don't have speakers on your computer, then what now you
28:53
Speaker 3: gotta buy speakers or if you have a laptop that
28:56
Speaker 3: built in speakers. Right, So it's like again going back
28:59
Speaker 3: to the very first part of the question, is like
29:01
Speaker 3: if you already have two phones and you can pair
29:04
Speaker 3: it with your earbuds or your aar pods or whatever, like,
29:07
Speaker 3: I just think you're going down a rabbit hole. That's
29:09
Speaker 3: gonna just cause you a lot of pain and misery. Yep,
29:12
Speaker 3: for a experience you can already do with your phone.
29:14
Speaker 3: That's mobile. That's mobile. The camera's going to look better,
29:19
Speaker 3: the sounds going to be better. You can do it
29:22
Speaker 3: from anywhere. You don't have to be tied to your computer.
29:24
Speaker 2: I mean.
29:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, Google the best Buy. I asked the
29:29
Speaker 3: guy at the front desk, Hey, I need a webcam.
29:31
Speaker 3: He'll point you to the webcams. Spend as much or
29:34
Speaker 3: as little as you want if you want to get
29:36
Speaker 3: a webcam. But I just don't see why.
29:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best the best solution, you're honestly mary, is
29:42
Speaker 1: if you if you're both using iPhones to make it easy.
29:46
Speaker 2: Just use the FaceTime and that's going to be the best.
29:49
Speaker 1: And if it's one of those things where it's like, well,
29:50
Speaker 1: I don't want her to call me when I'm shopping,
29:53
Speaker 1: so I'll only want to use it while we're sitting
29:55
Speaker 1: at the computer, that could be one thing that just
29:58
Speaker 1: set up a time, just say, you know, we'll set
30:00
Speaker 1: up a time for this.
30:01
Speaker 3: But if if you're already in the with the Mac ecosystem,
30:04
Speaker 3: or if you already have a Mac, FaceTime works on
30:07
Speaker 3: the Mac also, right, so you don't have to just
30:10
Speaker 3: use your phone. Your sister could be on your on
30:13
Speaker 3: your phone and you could be on your computer or
30:14
Speaker 3: vice versa or iPad or Mac Minnie or an iMac.
30:18
Speaker 3: They all work with FaceTime, so you can receive calls
30:22
Speaker 3: from many of those. You can start the call, and
30:24
Speaker 3: the call from any of those devices, text messages all
30:27
Speaker 3: through the you know, adding your ICoD account to those
30:30
Speaker 3: devices works really great. And most most of the Mac
30:34
Speaker 3: most of the MacBooks have cameras built in. So again
30:38
Speaker 3: if you're looking for like if you have an iMac
30:41
Speaker 3: or a Mac Minie, some of those may or may
30:44
Speaker 3: not have I don't think the I'm all the imas
30:46
Speaker 3: have webcams in them. Some do, some don't. The Mac
30:49
Speaker 3: Minis obviously don't, the Mac studios don't. Then you can
30:52
Speaker 3: buy a webcam, right.
30:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, they'll sell Apple products. Sean.
31:00
Speaker 1: Well, you know, they makes a point though, because you
31:03
Speaker 1: can have an iPhone to a MacBook and that could work, right, Yeah, definitely,
31:09
Speaker 1: So that would be good too. Speaking of that, Sean
31:12
Speaker 1: was telling a story earlier.
31:14
Speaker 2: We seem to be key.
31:15
Speaker 1: We hear a lot about settlements when it comes to
31:19
Speaker 1: the tech world. Somebody gets upset, somebody starts a class
31:22
Speaker 1: action lawsuit, and then they go ahead and anybody who
31:27
Speaker 1: bought that product or use the services could get a settlement,
31:30
Speaker 1: and there have been talks about people who've been upset
31:33
Speaker 1: with Adobe. Of course, Adobe just announced another price I
31:36
Speaker 1: guess a price increase from its light Room package that
31:41
Speaker 1: I think is going to go from nine dollars ninety
31:43
Speaker 1: nine cents up to fifteen dollars a month for those
31:46
Speaker 1: that when you use it, people who've been using the
31:49
Speaker 1: software that was supposed to be in perpetuity that you
31:52
Speaker 1: bought you know, creative Suite like I did, and all
31:55
Speaker 1: of a sudden. You can't use it anymore because you
31:57
Speaker 1: can't get it, we can't reinstall it. When people now
32:00
Speaker 1: taking this dip in the Windows eleven, it's kind of
32:02
Speaker 1: what I went through. Uh, people have talked class action there.
32:06
Speaker 1: We don't know if that's ever gonna happen, but you
32:08
Speaker 1: found one. This is regarding memory.
32:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got the I got a notice in
32:13
Speaker 3: the mail and it just says on the front it's
32:16
Speaker 3: a you know, this is from d DDR four and
32:20
Speaker 3: DDR five desktop memory speed settlement. So I was like, okay,
32:25
Speaker 3: I'll bite. It's just to me hat all this information
32:30
Speaker 3: on it. Apparently a settlement has been reached in a
32:34
Speaker 3: class action lawsuit against Course their gaming, alleging it violated
32:38
Speaker 3: the law and connection with advertised speeds on some of
32:40
Speaker 3: its DDR four and DDR five non laptop memory products.
32:46
Speaker 3: So I was like, wait, when did I buy RAM from?
32:49
Speaker 2: Oh?
32:49
Speaker 3: That's right. I wanted to play the Battlefield Open beta.
32:56
Speaker 2: That's right up.
32:57
Speaker 3: So this was only like two or three months ago
33:01
Speaker 3: and I didn't have enough Oh sorry, it was Monster
33:04
Speaker 3: Hutter Wilds is the game I was trying to play,
33:07
Speaker 3: and I only had sixteen gigs of memory and Monster
33:10
Speaker 3: hutter Wilds is pretty intensive. So I ended up buying
33:13
Speaker 3: two sixteen gig sticks of DDR four memory for my computer,
33:17
Speaker 3: and that was in I have it open here because
33:18
Speaker 3: I was playing up. That was in February of this year,
33:21
Speaker 3: February twenty four to twenty twenty five. So because I
33:25
Speaker 3: bought that DDR for Cours their memory Coursair Vengeance LPX
33:28
Speaker 3: thirty two gigs to sixteen two sixteen gig sticks, I
33:33
Speaker 3: apparently am partial to a class action lawsuit. Oh wow,
33:37
Speaker 3: Now I don't know what I'm gonna get or what
33:39
Speaker 3: the settlement was. It doesn't say yet because apparently that
33:42
Speaker 3: doesn't come until January eight, two thousand and six.
33:48
Speaker 1: So is this a good reason to when you buy
33:51
Speaker 1: something for your computer, whether it be a keyboard, a mouse,
33:56
Speaker 1: you know, or a a webcam or another peripheral, that
34:00
Speaker 1: you register it or if you do an update, you
34:02
Speaker 1: register the product you bought, whether.
34:04
Speaker 2: It be you know again memory.
34:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean probably, but
34:08
Speaker 3: I didn't register this. I just bought it.
34:10
Speaker 2: I bought it on new Egg, right, so.
34:12
Speaker 3: I wonder if new Egg got it and then provided
34:14
Speaker 3: my information, you know, they've most tried to but it says, yeah,
34:20
Speaker 3: it's just it's just interesting because it says Class Council
34:24
Speaker 3: will be paid from the settlement fund in an amount
34:26
Speaker 3: to de determined and awarded by the court to award
34:30
Speaker 3: the class representmentives up to five thousand dollars each from
34:33
Speaker 3: the settlement fund.
34:34
Speaker 2: Oh my, you bought a lot of memory.
34:36
Speaker 3: It says up to five thousand dollars each. I mean, obviously, right,
34:39
Speaker 3: if there's five million people that bought RAM, it's gonna
34:42
Speaker 3: obviously be significantly less per But.
34:44
Speaker 1: If justin as it manager had a big budget to
34:47
Speaker 1: buy an upgrade memory, if you bought a bunch of course.
34:50
Speaker 3: Their memory, he might be buying some bitcoin here. Yeah right, No,
34:54
Speaker 3: so yeah, the court the final court hearing is January
34:58
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six by Zoo video conference. So then you
35:03
Speaker 3: will find I will have to go into that and listen.
35:05
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I filled it out today because I
35:08
Speaker 3: just happened to have it on my desk.
35:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, filled it out.
35:11
Speaker 3: It was pretty painless. I had to provide a proof
35:13
Speaker 3: of purchase which new Egg had my receipt. It took
35:17
Speaker 3: took me about five minutes to do, you.
35:20
Speaker 2: Know, Unfortunately.
35:21
Speaker 1: You know, there have been scams going around when it
35:23
Speaker 1: comes to the Facebook settlement. Uh. Some of the scams
35:27
Speaker 1: have involved actually sending notifications reaching out to people saying
35:32
Speaker 1: that they needed their username and password to be able
35:34
Speaker 1: to log in so they.
35:35
Speaker 2: Could set their system.
35:37
Speaker 1: And some people have fet fellong for that, you know, saying, oh, wait,
35:41
Speaker 1: I want to get some of this Facebook money. Next thing,
35:43
Speaker 1: you know, they click a link because they got an email,
35:46
Speaker 1: and then that link it says, oh, please log in
35:48
Speaker 1: with your username and password to your Facebook accounts so
35:51
Speaker 1: we could verify. And next thing you know, their account
35:54
Speaker 1: is gone. They've it's been taken over. So you got
35:57
Speaker 1: to be really careful of that. Or even worse, you
36:00
Speaker 1: let me give you my checking account number.
36:02
Speaker 2: Oh jeez.
36:02
Speaker 4: And yeah, I actually got like thirty bucks from the.
36:07
Speaker 2: The Facebook settlement. Yeah, I haven't seen my money yet.
36:10
Speaker 3: I know, I didn't even know there was one, to
36:12
Speaker 3: be honest, probably because I wasn't on Facebook.
36:15
Speaker 1: Yep, you were on Facebook at the time, though, that
36:17
Speaker 1: because you.
36:18
Speaker 3: I'm sure that I was privy to the timeline that
36:22
Speaker 3: the settlement covered.
36:24
Speaker 2: But don't you delete your Facebook account?
36:26
Speaker 3: No, I just deactivated because in the keynote. Right, if
36:30
Speaker 3: people are interested in getting rid of Facebook and use
36:33
Speaker 3: it as a way to communicate with a lot of
36:35
Speaker 3: family and friends. Right, Using Messenger, you can deactivate your
36:39
Speaker 3: public facing profile, so you can't be searched, can't be
36:43
Speaker 3: you know, all your posts and stuff are hidden. All
36:45
Speaker 3: the data is still there, so it's probably still searchable
36:47
Speaker 3: by some algorithm somewhere. But if you just deactivate it,
36:52
Speaker 3: it allows you to keep using Messenger to all of
36:54
Speaker 3: your contacts on Facebook, and that includes pages, right, because
36:59
Speaker 3: I I still get all the messages on the page
37:02
Speaker 3: that tech Talk Radio has. So sometimes I get a message,
37:04
Speaker 3: it's like, oh it's somebody that AY can talk to.
37:08
Speaker 3: But it allows me to keep like message people that
37:12
Speaker 3: I need to talk to you that are on Facebook,
37:13
Speaker 3: and so it's nice. The problem is is occasionally it
37:18
Speaker 3: logs you back in on the back end and reactivates
37:22
Speaker 3: your Facebook. So like if you get logged out of Messenger,
37:26
Speaker 3: Like if you know when I got mine, you know,
37:28
Speaker 3: I upgraded to the new version of iOS and my
37:31
Speaker 3: phone did all that weird stuff and I had to
37:32
Speaker 3: replash my phone. I had to relog into everything, right,
37:36
Speaker 3: and when I relogged into Messenger. It decided I'm really
37:39
Speaker 3: just going to log you back into Facebook and reactivated
37:42
Speaker 3: my Facebook profile. Didn't tell me it did that, which
37:44
Speaker 3: I feel like is kind of shady. But then I realized, like, oh,
37:48
Speaker 3: I have a notification on my messages, and it actually
37:50
Speaker 3: loaded the mobile version through the Messenger app. So even
37:54
Speaker 3: though I didn't have the Facebook message the Facebook app
37:57
Speaker 3: installed on my phone, it loaded the dust top version
38:00
Speaker 3: through the Messenger app, oh man, and presented it to
38:04
Speaker 3: me as Facebook.
38:05
Speaker 2: Right.
38:05
Speaker 3: I was like, that's weird, I thought, I just so,
38:07
Speaker 3: I just disabled it.
38:09
Speaker 2: Can you have an Instagram account and not have a
38:11
Speaker 2: Facebook account?
38:12
Speaker 3: No, they're not linked anymore.
38:14
Speaker 2: Oh they're not.
38:15
Speaker 3: Nope.
38:15
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So Facebook and.
38:17
Speaker 3: Instagram linked for a period of time and were so
38:20
Speaker 3: like logging into Instagram was your face same as your Facebook.
38:23
Speaker 3: They split that probably two years ago or so now,
38:26
Speaker 3: so like I got rid of my Instagram along way
38:28
Speaker 3: way before I got rid of Facebook and then disabled
38:33
Speaker 3: by Facebook. But yeah, neither I don't have any of those.
38:37
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta take another quick break.
38:38
Speaker 3: We come back.
38:39
Speaker 1: Justin talked about something a few weeks ago that he
38:44
Speaker 1: was going to get There was a couple of things
38:46
Speaker 1: that I know that he was going to get.
38:47
Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about that when we come back.
38:49
Speaker 1: If you are a creative person, this is something you
38:53
Speaker 1: may definitely want to tune in for because it's really
38:56
Speaker 1: I really I want one now and we'll be back
38:59
Speaker 1: with more of tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm
39:01
Speaker 1: Sean to Weird, and I'm Justin. Let me find us
39:04
Speaker 1: on the web at tech talk radio dot com.
39:05
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
39:10
Speaker 3: So Justin, over the years, there have been a lot
39:12
Speaker 3: of hobbies that you and I have shared and I
39:15
Speaker 3: get really excited about something and I spend a lot
39:17
Speaker 3: of money on it, or you spend a lot of
39:19
Speaker 3: money on it.
39:19
Speaker 2: Does he start at first, Sean, and then you go, oh,
39:21
Speaker 2: I want to do that too.
39:22
Speaker 3: If it's kind of interesting, if you go back and
39:23
Speaker 3: look at the history with me and Justin's like, oh,
39:27
Speaker 3: arc planes, oh Arci cars, oh, three D printers, drones.
39:32
Speaker 3: You know, so this is kind of funny. We share
39:33
Speaker 3: a lot of similar hobbies. Cameras, that kind of thing. Yeah,
39:37
Speaker 3: but Justin finally upgraded, Yeah, because we were so stagnant
39:42
Speaker 3: on it for a long time, and I haven't touched
39:44
Speaker 3: mine in a while, so I wanted to see what
39:46
Speaker 3: Justin was gonna say about.
39:48
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait a minute, you have one. I don't
39:50
Speaker 2: have one. Now we feel really, I really feel out.
39:53
Speaker 2: Now I have two? WHOA, all right? Why don't you
39:57
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about it? So we're talking
39:59
Speaker 2: about a three D Was I the first one to
40:01
Speaker 2: get the three D printer?
40:02
Speaker 4: Shown?
40:02
Speaker 3: Yes?
40:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I got my first one was a Creolity
40:06
Speaker 4: Ender three, And I think that's what you have, right,
40:08
Speaker 4: I have the Ender.
40:09
Speaker 3: I think I bought this version two or version three
40:12
Speaker 3: or something. You bought it said it was great. By
40:15
Speaker 3: the time I bought mine it was up one version.
40:17
Speaker 3: It's still great. I've printed.
40:19
Speaker 2: You might have the Ender five or maybe just the
40:21
Speaker 2: end of three pro anyway.
40:23
Speaker 3: Probably Ender three pro it's been. I bought it twenty twenty.
40:27
Speaker 2: Two maybe, yeah, I bought mine in I want to
40:31
Speaker 2: say it was late twenty nineteen, yeah, I think.
40:33
Speaker 4: And I used it extensively, the Ender three. I use
40:36
Speaker 4: it extensively over COVID. I actually helped print out a
40:40
Speaker 4: bunch of like ear relief holders for masks when everybody
40:45
Speaker 4: was wearing all the masks and it was like digging
40:47
Speaker 4: into their ears.
40:48
Speaker 2: So this little thing.
40:49
Speaker 4: So I made a ton of those things, and I
40:52
Speaker 4: made some other just random stuff throughout the years. But
40:56
Speaker 4: then I kind of just fell off on it. And
40:58
Speaker 4: the problem with the ender. The ender was it's just
41:01
Speaker 4: it was so hard because you had to level the
41:03
Speaker 4: bed and that's the print surface where it prints, and
41:05
Speaker 4: you have to It's so intricate how you have to
41:09
Speaker 4: level this thing perfectly every single time. And I just
41:12
Speaker 4: it got to the point and then it would keep
41:13
Speaker 4: jamming or clogging or the prince wouldn't stick and it
41:17
Speaker 4: would fail, and you'd be printing for twelve fourteen hours
41:20
Speaker 4: and then it would mess up and then welp, there
41:22
Speaker 4: goes fourteen hours and ten bucks worth a filament gone,
41:25
Speaker 4: you know. So it just got to the point where
41:27
Speaker 4: I just didn't like it anymore.
41:28
Speaker 2: So I stopped.
41:30
Speaker 1: I remember, honestly, I remember justin when you did that.
41:33
Speaker 1: I could walk into Costco or even you know, Sam's
41:38
Speaker 1: Club and they were selling three D printers there.
41:41
Speaker 4: It was a huge phase for a while. It's kind
41:43
Speaker 4: of died off a little bit. I mean, as obviously
41:45
Speaker 4: it's still a big hobby and there's still a lot
41:46
Speaker 4: of people that do it, but it's just gotten better
41:48
Speaker 4: and better over the years. And so I recently bought
41:53
Speaker 4: a flash Forge printer. I don't remember the exact model.
41:58
Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact model the top my head.
42:00
Speaker 4: But this one it's it's it's leaps and bounds ahead
42:03
Speaker 4: of what the Ender three could do.
42:07
Speaker 2: You know. It has it built in web interface. It
42:09
Speaker 2: connects to the internet, so I can I can.
42:11
Speaker 4: I can send a print from my computer directly to
42:14
Speaker 4: the printer without having because like the End of three,
42:19
Speaker 4: I had to load it onto a USB stick, walk
42:21
Speaker 4: over to the end of three, put it in the
42:23
Speaker 4: end of three's thing, boot it up, let it read
42:25
Speaker 4: the file. You know this, I just say print, and
42:28
Speaker 4: I just press the button on the website and it
42:30
Speaker 4: just sends.
42:30
Speaker 2: It to the printer. Is it a little faster than
42:34
Speaker 2: the previous is probably twice as fast as as as
42:38
Speaker 2: the other one.
42:39
Speaker 4: I mean I printed. I printed a Benchi, which is
42:42
Speaker 4: one of the most famous little things you could print.
42:44
Speaker 4: It's like a little tug boat. And I remember on
42:47
Speaker 4: the Creality Ender three a Benchi would probably take about
42:51
Speaker 4: two and a half hours. This one took fourteen minutes.
42:55
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's amazing. And this is also enclosed, so
43:00
Speaker 4: it has a filtration system built in so I can
43:03
Speaker 4: print ABS. ABS is a type of filament. It's known
43:06
Speaker 4: for more industrial purposes, I guess you could say, but
43:11
Speaker 4: ABS is also known for releasing particles into the air
43:15
Speaker 4: that aren't really good to breathe in. So with this
43:19
Speaker 4: having an internal filtration system, I can safely print ABS
43:24
Speaker 4: inside the house and not have to worry about these
43:26
Speaker 4: particles getting released into the air. But the biggest part
43:29
Speaker 4: not only just like I said, the website, and it
43:31
Speaker 4: has a built in camera so I can watch the
43:33
Speaker 4: printer what it's doing. You know, the ABS a filtration system,
43:37
Speaker 4: but it also has automatic bed leveling. So every time
43:41
Speaker 4: at prints, there's an option to level the bed and
43:44
Speaker 4: it will go and it will attempt to look at
43:48
Speaker 4: the variations in the bed and things change over time,
43:51
Speaker 4: I mean the bed moves and the bed heats up,
43:54
Speaker 4: so things warp out of rope and it could be
43:56
Speaker 4: less than a millimeter off and it will throw off
43:58
Speaker 4: your entire print. So but this has so you don't
44:02
Speaker 4: have to worry about that. Yeah, having the auto leveling
44:04
Speaker 4: is is a big big, huge thing. So I've already
44:07
Speaker 4: printed a few things. I mean a few just little
44:09
Speaker 4: trinkets here and there. And I actually printed out a
44:14
Speaker 4: large desktop figurine I guess you could say of like
44:20
Speaker 4: a suit of power armor from Fallout, the you know,
44:24
Speaker 4: the TV show Fallout and the video game Fallout. I
44:28
Speaker 4: printed out a huge it's probably about seven inches tall,
44:32
Speaker 4: I guess you could say, so I printed that out
44:35
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm trying to remove all the supports from it,
44:38
Speaker 4: which is the supports are just what the printer uses
44:41
Speaker 4: to be able to print something that that is over
44:43
Speaker 4: the limit, overhangs over the limit of where it could
44:47
Speaker 4: naturally print, so it has to build up a support
44:50
Speaker 4: structure underneath it, think like a bridge, I guess you
44:52
Speaker 4: could say.
44:54
Speaker 2: So, I'm trying to.
44:54
Speaker 4: Remove all these like supports everywhere, and it's it's a
44:56
Speaker 4: pain in the butt, but it works really well, and
44:59
Speaker 4: I I like the printer. The only problem was is
45:02
Speaker 4: I didn't really have a place to put it. Is
45:04
Speaker 4: it bigger than the end or it's actually I think
45:07
Speaker 4: it's a tiny bit smaller than the ender, But again
45:10
Speaker 4: it's it's enclosed, so it's just a big black box
45:14
Speaker 4: and it's got windows on it so you can see
45:15
Speaker 4: what you're looking at. It's got a light inside of
45:17
Speaker 4: it too, so you can see. But I just didn't
45:20
Speaker 4: have a place to put it, and so I initially
45:22
Speaker 4: put it on our kitchen, our dining room table. Oh
45:24
Speaker 4: I bet that went over well yeah, no, no, not
45:27
Speaker 4: not really. So then I tried to move it downstairs,
45:31
Speaker 4: and I just i everywhere I would put it it,
45:35
Speaker 4: the table or the desk that I put it on,
45:37
Speaker 4: it wasn't sturdy enough. And so when the printer is
45:41
Speaker 4: making fine adjustments back and forth and it's printing a
45:43
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff really really fast, it starts vibrating. And
45:47
Speaker 4: then if the table vibrates and the whole machine vibrates,
45:49
Speaker 4: and then it's kind of like that old video from
45:52
Speaker 4: San Francisco or whatever where that bridge is kind of
45:55
Speaker 4: doing that thing and then the bridge ends up breaking
45:57
Speaker 4: the residence or whatever. Yeah, so you gotta have something sturdy.
46:00
Speaker 4: So I actually went out to what was it, Habitat
46:04
Speaker 4: for Humanity. They have like an overstock place that you
46:08
Speaker 4: can go to that it's like a bunch of building
46:10
Speaker 4: materials and like kitchen cabinets and countertops and things that
46:15
Speaker 4: are just left over, and I actually found it was
46:18
Speaker 4: actually a donated item. It wasn't even brand new, but
46:20
Speaker 4: it was just this tiny little kind of like an
46:23
Speaker 4: end table with a drawer, but it had a metal
46:26
Speaker 4: frame to it and it was just big enough, wide
46:28
Speaker 4: enough to place the printer on. So I bought that
46:31
Speaker 4: for twenty five bucks, put it in the basement and
46:34
Speaker 4: put the printer on it, and now it just sits
46:35
Speaker 4: there and it works really well. So yeah, the Flashfarge
46:39
Speaker 4: is the system I got.
46:40
Speaker 2: Now I really like it. It was about four hundred
46:43
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. I want to say something like that,
46:46
Speaker 2: about four fifty.
46:47
Speaker 1: What about the some of you listening to that's thinking, well,
46:50
Speaker 1: this would be great because some people have found that
46:52
Speaker 1: they could make stuff for their home hangars, they could
46:55
Speaker 1: build all.
46:56
Speaker 4: Kinds of stuff. I mean, there's a bunch of websites
46:59
Speaker 4: you can go to that just have thousands of things.
47:01
Speaker 4: I mean there's things on there. I just browse and
47:03
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, wow, that'd be kind of cool to do.
47:05
Speaker 4: Like I didn't even know that existed, and I'm like, wow,
47:07
Speaker 4: that's actually kind of a cool thing.
47:09
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
47:09
Speaker 1: You go online, you could find a template basically for
47:13
Speaker 1: something maybe, And with the holiday season is coming up,
47:16
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people create stuff for you know,
47:19
Speaker 1: Halloween or Christmas, yep, you know, Thanksgiving that they could
47:22
Speaker 1: use as part of their decorations.
47:25
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. And I've I've already made some Halloween decorations
47:28
Speaker 4: and stuff. So it's a yeah, it's a really cool system.
47:32
Speaker 4: The one that was actually this one still only does
47:34
Speaker 4: a single color print. However, within the printing process, I
47:39
Speaker 4: can tell it to stop at a certain level and
47:42
Speaker 4: then it will wait for me to pull the filament
47:44
Speaker 4: out and change it out. So, for instance, I printed
47:46
Speaker 4: out in ice cream a vanilla ice cream cone.
47:49
Speaker 2: Okay, the cone itself.
47:51
Speaker 4: I used a gold filament to make it kind of
47:53
Speaker 4: look like a like a waffle cone, or had a
47:56
Speaker 4: waffle cone with just a regular cone, and then I
47:58
Speaker 4: stopped it at the layer where the ice cream starts,
48:00
Speaker 4: and I swapped it out for white filament. And so
48:03
Speaker 4: when it got done, it looks like a real vanilla
48:06
Speaker 4: ice cream cone.
48:07
Speaker 3: But three D.
48:08
Speaker 2: It's three but a three D print. Yeah, it's all plastic.
48:11
Speaker 1: Now, So what does the cost like when you get down?
48:14
Speaker 1: We don't how much the device is. But what about
48:16
Speaker 1: the cost of the materials. Is it worth it if
48:19
Speaker 1: you're doing a piece here, a piece there to go
48:22
Speaker 1: ahead and make stuff with this? Oh?
48:23
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean the filament's not that expensive. I mean
48:26
Speaker 4: the filaments anywhere from twenty to thirty dollars for one
48:31
Speaker 4: kilogram of a filament, which it'll last you quite a while.
48:36
Speaker 4: Depends on what you're printing. I mean, if you're printing
48:38
Speaker 4: a you know, a big old, you know, seven inch
48:40
Speaker 4: figurine like I mentioned, I probably could print four or
48:44
Speaker 4: five of those with one roll of filament. But if
48:46
Speaker 4: you're making these little small things like let's say a
48:49
Speaker 4: doorstop or a coat hanger or you know, just something
48:55
Speaker 4: like that, you could print hundreds of those things with
48:58
Speaker 4: one roll of filament. And it's like I said, between
49:01
Speaker 4: twenty and thirty bucks for a film. Nope, Like I
49:03
Speaker 4: bought something like this and I'm showing it out the
49:05
Speaker 4: camera here.
49:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, easily can make that.
49:07
Speaker 1: This is a headphone hanger. You put your put it
49:10
Speaker 1: on a desk and then you could hang a headphone
49:12
Speaker 1: on it and it probably paid. You've got one to it,
49:15
Speaker 1: and that's one you made, right. I made this with
49:17
Speaker 1: the original Creality Ender three and it's just a small
49:20
Speaker 1: little headphone hanger headphones is sit right on top here
49:22
Speaker 1: and it just sits on the desk. And this is
49:25
Speaker 1: about five or six years old and it still works great.
49:29
Speaker 1: I paid maybe thirty bucks for mine this one. Then
49:33
Speaker 1: you could print that for probably about three bucks.
49:36
Speaker 2: Three bucks. Wow.
49:37
Speaker 1: It's just a fun project to do. Is Eric kind
49:39
Speaker 1: of taking, you know, taking interest in it as well.
49:42
Speaker 2: A little bit.
49:43
Speaker 4: I mean he's he's asked some questions about it, and
49:45
Speaker 4: he's he's found some things that he wants, but he
49:47
Speaker 4: kind of he's like, hey, print this for me. And
49:50
Speaker 4: then I just printed for him, like I made a
49:51
Speaker 4: little fidget clicker thing for him.
49:54
Speaker 2: To play with.
49:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, mostly like little fidget things or like these little
49:59
Speaker 4: like you can find them in like gift shops and stuff.
50:02
Speaker 4: But like these three D like dragons or whatever with
50:06
Speaker 4: the tail and it and it kind of wiggles back
50:08
Speaker 4: and forth, but it's all it's all print in place,
50:10
Speaker 4: like you don't have to put it together, and it's
50:12
Speaker 4: got like interchangeable links so it can actually move. And
50:16
Speaker 4: this looks really cool. And I printed a bunch of those,
50:19
Speaker 4: giving them to some friends and kids and stuff like that.
50:22
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I like it. It's it's just
50:24
Speaker 2: it's it's a hobby. It's just a fun little hobby.
50:26
Speaker 1: Now, if our listeners want to get more information on it,
50:29
Speaker 1: is there do you know of a website they could
50:31
Speaker 1: go to to look up this the civic model that
50:33
Speaker 1: you have and maybe they want to give it a
50:35
Speaker 1: shot and have some fun.
50:37
Speaker 4: Well, I I've been I've been going to a couple
50:39
Speaker 4: of different ones. Probably the biggest ones out there are
50:41
Speaker 4: maker World makerworld dot com and then thingaverse thingy. It's
50:46
Speaker 4: like th h I n G I verse thingaverse dot com.
50:51
Speaker 4: Those are websites that just have thousands and thousands of
50:54
Speaker 4: print jobs that you can do, and and they're all free,
50:57
Speaker 4: well most of them are free.
50:58
Speaker 2: There's a couple that.
50:59
Speaker 4: Are, you know, premium ones that you can pay that
51:01
Speaker 4: you have to pay for, but by far majority of
51:04
Speaker 4: them are free and you just download the file, you
51:10
Speaker 4: load it into a piece of software called a slicer,
51:12
Speaker 4: and there's multiple slicers out in the market that are free.
51:15
Speaker 4: Flashforage actually comes with one called Orca, and you just
51:18
Speaker 4: load the file into the slicer and click slice and
51:21
Speaker 4: then click send the printer and boom it's done. And
51:23
Speaker 4: then it's just just start printing.
51:24
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take another quick break. We come
51:26
Speaker 1: back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
51:29
Speaker 1: I'm Sean to Wear and I'm justin. Lemme find us
51:31
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back and now fac to tech talk
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Speaker 2: Radio Now.
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Speaker 4: At the beginning of the show, I mentioned that Microsoft
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Speaker 4: was making a lot of mistakes, including the recent announcement
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Speaker 4: that they are increasing yet again the monthly charge for
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Speaker 4: Xbox Game Pass. This is their subscription service that allows
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Speaker 4: you to play, you know, hundreds of games when you want,
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Speaker 4: and it gives you cloud gaming. It gives you the
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Speaker 4: streaming ability you can stream your console remotely. I bought
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Speaker 4: into the game Pass when it first came out at
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Speaker 4: ten bucks a month. I stayed with it when it
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Speaker 4: went to nineteen ninety nine a month, and recently was
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Speaker 4: it last year they had a massive deal on Woot,
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Speaker 4: which is Amazon's like subsidiary Woot, and I bought two
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Speaker 4: full years of game Pass, one year for Eric, or
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Speaker 4: actually a year and a half for myself, and a
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Speaker 4: year and a half for Eric and I think I
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Speaker 4: spent like five hundred and fifty bucks, but we got
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Speaker 4: paid both of us up until November of twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 4: Well as of this November of twenty twenty five, Xbox
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Speaker 4: is increasing it from nineteen ninety nine a month.
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Speaker 2: To twenty nine ninety nine a month. That's a lot
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Speaker 2: of money.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot. It's gonna be ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: And here's the thing.
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Speaker 4: When they bought when they bought Activision Blizzard, they had
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Speaker 4: to go in front of the FTC and say, we
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Speaker 4: are not going to increase the price of game Pass
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Speaker 4: with this purchase, because that was the big deciding factors
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Speaker 4: whether the government allows them to do this. They were like, hey,
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Speaker 4: you're creating a monopoly here. You're just gonna be able
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Speaker 4: to raise the prices to whatever you want. And they're like, no, no, no,
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Speaker 4: we're not to do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Fast forward a year, they're doing it, and there's so
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Speaker 4: many people all over saying we're done, we're done with
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Speaker 4: game Pass, we're done with Microsoft, we're canceling our games.
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Speaker 4: The problem is people don't buy games anymore, so they
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Speaker 4: cancel game Pass and now they have nothing to play
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Speaker 4: because they don't own any games.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Now there's another rumor out there, and I don't know
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Speaker 2: how true this is. We have to do some recently.
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Speaker 4: We can talk about more next week. But somebody was
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Speaker 4: saying on Reddit somewhere that hey, Xbox is saying that
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Speaker 4: if you do not cancel your subscription and you have
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Speaker 4: reoccurring billing turned on, which most people do, that your
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Speaker 4: game pass will be grandfathered in at the price of
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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine, and it's only twenty ninety nine for
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Speaker 4: the people that sign up now moving forward. I don't
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Speaker 4: know how that true that is, because I even even
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Speaker 4: though I'm paid up until November of twenty six, I'm
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Speaker 4: still getting emails saying, hey, your price is going to
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Speaker 4: increase to twenty ninety nine.
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Speaker 3: So I quickly searched Verge. The Verge, there's an article
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Speaker 3: that says it's delaying the price increased for existing subscribers
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Speaker 3: in certain markets, meaning new purchases get the new pricing,
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Speaker 3: but current users keep existing rates as long as their
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Speaker 3: subscription is still active and set to auto renew.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well that's good.
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Speaker 4: Well I want to have you cancel BAK. I canceled
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Speaker 4: mine already, but but I'm paid up. I'm paid up
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Speaker 4: through November twenty six, so at that point I'm done right, right, and.
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Speaker 3: The mindset to auto renew, and it has been since
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and.
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Speaker 1: You still have Steam so you can play games there, right,
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Speaker 1: I'd have.
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Speaker 3: To look to see what I'm paying for it. I
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Speaker 3: know I got an update saying my price is gonna change,
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Speaker 3: but I'm curious if I if because mine set to
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Speaker 3: auto renew, I'm curious if it's gonna change or not.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this next week.
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Speaker 3: I'll find out. We'll report back next week.
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Speaker 2: Sounds good.
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Speaker 1: That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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