Latest / Two Personal with Joy Taylor / Jazmyn W and Joy Taylor Roast Hecklers, Bad Hookups & Lame Men
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Men don't gain respect for you. Okay, they either respect
- 0:03Speaker 1: you or they don't.
- 0:04Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I love a good dick pic. When
- 0:08Speaker 2: requested on solicited is the quickest way to get me
- 0:11Speaker 2: to never talk to you again.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Your twenties are not for long term relationships. They're not
- 0:15Speaker 1: for kids. Therefore self development fun torking in Miami.
- 0:19Speaker 3: What was I talking about?
- 0:21Speaker 1: You want to sleep on somebody?
- 0:22Speaker 3: I know ya yah, the micro penis distracted me.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to Personal I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so
- 0:32Speaker 2: much for joining us today. If you haven't already, make
- 0:34Speaker 2: sure that you hit subscribe and fall us on our
- 0:36Speaker 2: social media's.
- 0:37Speaker 3: At two Personal Show.
- 0:39Speaker 2: I have been traveling the past couple of weeks. If
- 0:41Speaker 2: you have been following me on social media at Joy
- 0:44Speaker 2: Taylor Talks, I've been on the road for a while.
- 0:47Speaker 3: So I am here.
- 0:49Speaker 2: In New York, in the beautiful New York City at
- 0:51Speaker 2: the best time of the year.
- 0:52Speaker 3: It's been us open.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I was at my nephew's game this weekends at MetLife
- 0:57Speaker 2: and it's just turned fall. It's like the best time
- 1:00Speaker 2: to be in the city. So we are. We're having
- 1:03Speaker 2: a great time. I hope you've been following along, and
- 1:06Speaker 2: I'm very excited for today's episode. We'll get to Never
- 1:09Speaker 2: Too Personal later on the show, but my girl, Jasmine
- 1:13Speaker 2: W is joining the show today and she is amazing.
- 1:17Speaker 2: She's hilarious. She's an incredible stand up comedian, she's an actress,
- 1:21Speaker 2: a content creator. I have been following her for a
- 1:23Speaker 2: very long time. If you've been following her also, one
- 1:26Speaker 2: of her amazing takes is about men dancing, which we
- 1:30Speaker 2: get into right away.
- 1:32Speaker 3: She's incredible.
- 1:33Speaker 2: She is also in our dear friend Kevin Stage's new
- 1:38Speaker 2: show or not new show, his second season of Churchy,
- 1:41Speaker 2: so make sure you check that out as well.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Here is Jasmine W.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I am very excited to have a brilliant comedian podcast
- 1:50Speaker 2: hosts Wonderful Wonderful Roaster of Terrible Dates on social media.
- 1:56Speaker 2: She's a social media maven, sharp humor, unforgettable energy. Missus
- 2:02Speaker 2: Jasmine W. Welcome to you personal what an intro. Thank
- 2:05Speaker 2: you so much, You're welcome.
- 2:07Speaker 3: I'm working on these.
- 2:08Speaker 2: You can follow her at Jasmine JW. Her podcast Jazz
- 2:12Speaker 2: after Dark is available on her Patreon, The Secret Society,
- 2:16Speaker 2: and you can see her comedy show at the Philadelphia
- 2:19Speaker 2: City Winery Live on September twenty fifth.
- 2:22Speaker 3: So a lot going on. I love your work. I
- 2:27Speaker 3: was actually quoting you the other day.
- 2:29Speaker 1: What'd you say?
- 2:31Speaker 2: I mean, unimaginable that man would start dancing? Yeah, I
- 2:37Speaker 2: mean just where were you? Oh not with a man dancing?
- 2:41Speaker 3: Lord?
- 2:42Speaker 1: God, I know when you were. You were in his presence.
- 2:44Speaker 3: No, lord, it's crazy to imagine that.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Oh you didn't see it in person or no?
- 2:50Speaker 2: No, no. Someone was talking about it and I was like,
- 2:52Speaker 2: so a man just started dancing like in the place
- 2:56Speaker 2: by himself. Yeah, and I was like, no, no, no, jazz
- 2:59Speaker 2: would't have been almost. I wish you had videos so
- 3:01Speaker 2: I could send it to her.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I know. I get videos of men dancing all day
- 3:05Speaker 1: in my DMS. I love it though some of them,
- 3:08Speaker 1: some of them actually save and I should comment on
- 3:11Speaker 1: I have them saved, But some of them just like,
- 3:12Speaker 1: don't send me nothing like this ever again, because because.
- 3:15Speaker 3: You don't deserve that, you know, like I deserve better
- 3:18Speaker 3: than this.
- 3:19Speaker 2: That to be clear, there's only so much of men
- 3:23Speaker 2: having fun that I ever want to see. But like,
- 3:27Speaker 2: but because why aren't you building a road? But I do?
- 3:31Speaker 2: You got to give everyone more context because everyone always
- 3:33Speaker 2: thinks I hate man anyway. So yes, let's give a
- 3:36Speaker 2: little more context to this, because this is this is
- 3:38Speaker 2: I associate this with you.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've made it. I've embraced it. You know,
- 3:43Speaker 1: a lot of men bully me on Facebook because I
- 3:46Speaker 1: love to bully them, and they're like, when are you
- 3:48Speaker 1: gonna let this go? I'm like never, never. As long
- 3:51Speaker 1: as I get the videos, I'm gonna keep talking about it.
- 3:54Speaker 1: But it's not. It's not that men can't dance or
- 3:56Speaker 1: line dance or do the electric slide. It's when he
- 4:00Speaker 1: decides that this is his opportunity to give a solo.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, all this ain't your
- 4:07Speaker 1: opportunity to give a solo, Okay. Correct, That's the thing
- 4:10Speaker 1: I don't like.
- 4:11Speaker 3: If it's not your wedding. If it's not not, not
- 4:15Speaker 3: you're the best man. Okay, not, you're a groomsman. Your way.
- 4:20Speaker 3: If it's not.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Your wedding, we are celebrating your nuptials.
- 4:25Speaker 3: No.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I will also accept your birthday. If it's your birthday and.
- 4:30Speaker 2: You really have to be lit, you can't be too
- 4:32Speaker 2: early in the night, yes, and don't.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Do it all night either.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Wait till mine so you got one song to get
- 4:40Speaker 2: your solo.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Yes, thing off.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Do be honest though, like not to give men any credit,
- 4:52Speaker 2: but like women can't really be doing this either, Like
- 4:55Speaker 2: the girl in the club that's doing too much is
- 4:58Speaker 2: it's not for me either, But if I have I
- 5:00Speaker 2: have to pick a gender that's allowed to do this.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Of course can be women, you know what.
- 5:03Speaker 1: The girl who does it in she's not the girl
- 5:06Speaker 1: I came with, but I do appreciate her for bringing
- 5:09Speaker 1: the energy, you know, but like a little bit.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Just a little part of the song, it can't be
- 5:15Speaker 3: the whole song.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I'm a hyper up either.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Way, of course, like everything else.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And I have ever said this if in the moment,
- 5:23Speaker 2: I'm going to encourage her.
- 5:25Speaker 3: But I just I love I love that bit of yours.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And there's also another part that I love, which is
- 5:31Speaker 2: the crazy dating stories.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Yes, who is it Sarah? It is the waitress.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sarah's the my waitress. A lot of people
- 5:38Speaker 1: don't know Sarah's white. In my head, oh I knew
- 5:40Speaker 1: Sarah was white.
- 5:40Speaker 3: See yeah, okay, of course it was like, yeah, I
- 5:43Speaker 3: knew Sarah was white. There was no explanation needed. Perfect, Yeah, Sarah, get.
- 5:47Speaker 2: The Bill, we gotta go, Yeah, what was the most
- 5:51Speaker 2: Just so you know, I'm you have to you gotta
- 5:53Speaker 2: go fologize because I am just I'm having a friend conversation,
- 5:56Speaker 2: like this is what I wanted.
- 5:56Speaker 3: To talk to her about.
- 5:57Speaker 2: This is not even for y'all, This is for me.
- 6:00Speaker 2: What made you come up with that bit? And like,
- 6:04Speaker 2: did somebody send you a story? Was it your own
- 6:06Speaker 2: first original story?
- 6:08Speaker 3: You know what?
- 6:08Speaker 1: It's really mostly inspired by things that I see online, right,
- 6:13Speaker 1: because when I started doing I've been doing these dating
- 6:15Speaker 1: stories for years, but I was married, Like I wasn't
- 6:18Speaker 1: going on dates, so it was like, oh, it was
- 6:20Speaker 1: my friend's stories. It was things that I saw online
- 6:23Speaker 1: that I thought were absolutely ridiculous. So most of it,
- 6:26Speaker 1: most of the dating stories are true. They're inspired by
- 6:28Speaker 1: things that I actually see online, women telling their stories
- 6:31Speaker 1: or whatever, and I just like to recreate them or
- 6:34Speaker 1: exaggerate them or you know, make fun of them, and
- 6:37Speaker 1: I think it's very funny.
- 6:39Speaker 2: There's also I'm just going through her entire cala obviously
- 6:43Speaker 2: a fan. There's also the dealing with white people.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Yes that's from personal experience.
- 6:49Speaker 2: And what Okay, I can't I can't remember her name,
- 6:52Speaker 2: who's the woman that always comes in?
- 6:54Speaker 3: Katie, Katie, Katie. Oh, nobody asked for this right now.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I used to work in tech. There was a girl
- 7:02Speaker 1: that was a Katie. She was first of all, she
- 7:05Speaker 1: was like twenty two. I worked for a space company,
- 7:07Speaker 1: right and she thought that she knew She was just
- 7:10Speaker 1: the most annoying person that thought she knew everything. I'm like, baby,
- 7:13Speaker 1: aren't you sleeping with the manager? Like such your ass? Now?
- 7:16Speaker 1: Like you know, and they're always sleeping with the manager? Okay,
- 7:20Speaker 1: but it's kind of like, you know that annoying person
- 7:22Speaker 1: at work who acts like they know everything, but they're
- 7:24Speaker 1: also somehow clueless and also.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Just has to insert themselves in the conversation. Yes, like
- 7:30Speaker 2: we were done with the conversation. Why why is there
- 7:33Speaker 2: more to say? And it's all about history months? Yeah
- 7:39Speaker 2: girl please?
- 7:40Speaker 3: Yea? So are you are you dating now?
- 7:43Speaker 1: I'm dating? Yeah?
- 7:45Speaker 3: Have you had and were you're dating in Los Angeles? Yeah?
- 7:49Speaker 2: Have you had the LA dating like dating in Los
- 7:54Speaker 2: Angeles experience or has it been positive for you?
- 7:56Speaker 3: You know what?
- 7:57Speaker 1: I I'm the type of person I think that if
- 7:59Speaker 1: you want positive results, you have to think positive. So
- 8:02Speaker 1: I'm not one of those people that say, oh, there's
- 8:04Speaker 1: piercing the dating in the dating pool or dating sucks.
- 8:07Speaker 1: And maybe it's because I was in a relationship for
- 8:09Speaker 1: such a long time. I think dating's fun and everything
- 8:12Speaker 1: is low stakes, and I'm out here for a fun
- 8:14Speaker 1: time and a key key, you know, until I find
- 8:16Speaker 1: somebody that I really like, you know. So I've had
- 8:20Speaker 1: some really good experiences and I've had someones that weren't good.
- 8:24Speaker 3: M hmm.
- 8:24Speaker 1: I've had to walk out on a couple of people,
- 8:27Speaker 1: like got up and just left.
- 8:29Speaker 3: I have never done that.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Bro, It's oh, it's so fun. Do it on your
- 8:32Speaker 1: next one.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Just got like you were just like I'm done with
- 8:36Speaker 2: this conversation and I'm out.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the guy was being kind of mean to
- 8:41Speaker 1: me and I don't tolerate mean. Like it was a
- 8:43Speaker 1: little bit like passive aggressive, and I told yeah, and
- 8:48Speaker 1: I told him, I said, you know something, he said,
- 8:50Speaker 1: I was like, you kind of hurt my feelings, you know.
- 8:53Speaker 1: So he was like, how did I hurt your feelings?
- 8:55Speaker 1: Now I hurt your feelings. I was like, well, you know,
- 8:56Speaker 1: I want to give you an opportunity to turn turn
- 8:58Speaker 1: turn it around. And he was like, I could take
- 9:00Speaker 1: you home, and I got up. I said, oh, let
- 9:02Speaker 1: me push my chair back, and I just got up
- 9:05Speaker 1: and left, called it uber and left. Then he texted me,
- 9:08Speaker 1: where are you Are you in the bathroom, No, negro,
- 9:11Speaker 1: I'm in my own bathroom at home because I live
- 9:14Speaker 1: up the street.
- 9:16Speaker 3: So he said I could take you home. I don't.
- 9:19Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't. It's not even that serious.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Just apologize, yeah, just say, you know, all I wanted
- 9:26Speaker 1: was a jazz you know what. Let's drink a sip
- 9:29Speaker 1: of wine and start over, you know. Yeah, but no, you.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Can do it. Okay.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I think he was forty. He's the oldest guy I've
- 9:36Speaker 1: ever dayd in La. All the young men love me.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Okay, No, let's let's let's get into it because this
- 9:45Speaker 2: is important. I've talked about this before. Oh yeah, this
- 9:48Speaker 2: is important. Don't piss me off. Don't piss me off,
- 9:52Speaker 2: because I will take your daddy and your son, period
- 9:55Speaker 2: nephew and your nephew. It's all available. So don't pissed
- 10:00Speaker 2: me off. These young men's and I've been asking about
- 10:05Speaker 2: this because I think it's I don't know if it's
- 10:07Speaker 2: like a new thing, because when I ask about it.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Older men are like, oh yeah, we always love older
- 10:11Speaker 2: women blah blah blah.
- 10:12Speaker 3: I'm like, not like this. Yeah, you wanted an experience.
- 10:16Speaker 2: That's different. The young men are not looking for an experience, honey.
- 10:21Speaker 1: What they're looking for huh a wife? Yeah, they're not
- 10:25Speaker 1: playing about us. Well, I mean, when you look as
- 10:29Speaker 1: beautiful as you look, I wouldn't play about you either
- 10:31Speaker 1: anyway the way, Hello, yeah, same for me.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, but this is I'm I am
- 10:37Speaker 2: a adult woman, like I am not.
- 10:42Speaker 3: It's you know.
- 10:42Speaker 2: I fucked up and went on and told Paul on
- 10:45Speaker 2: his podcast that my dating range was twenty five to
- 10:48Speaker 2: seventy and now I have twenty two year olds, Like,
- 10:51Speaker 2: what's up?
- 10:51Speaker 3: I'm like, no, first of all, I said twenty five.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I said twenty five, I was actually thirty.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Six at the time.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Okay, so technically it's now been moved up to twenty seven.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I should have adjusted for the time past.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Okay, twenty seven is young, though I don't think. I don't.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I wouldn't I but twenty seven.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Is an adult person.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, it's not like if you were like, okay,
- 11:14Speaker 2: he's younger. Yeah, but you wouldn't be like, this is
- 11:17Speaker 2: like a twenty seven and twenty two are completely different humans.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I don't know what it was the
- 11:21Speaker 1: youngest that you would date. Yeah, I'm.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the youngest you would date?
- 11:28Speaker 1: I'm thirty six?
- 11:29Speaker 3: Okay, I'm thirty eight.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'll just say that, I don't know if
- 11:35Speaker 1: I have a rate. I'm saying thirty thirty and above.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Thirty thirty and above is so reasonable. No, thirty, but
- 11:42Speaker 1: not ten years older than me either, No more than
- 11:44Speaker 1: ten years older than me.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Okay, So you would not date someone who's fifty.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Now, Okay, But I gave my number to a twenty
- 11:53Speaker 1: four year old a couple of weeks ago that I
- 11:56Speaker 1: met out and oh, I mean, he was dressed really nice,
- 11:59Speaker 1: he was so handsome, he was so respectful, he was
- 12:03Speaker 1: we were chatting. I gave him my number. I made
- 12:06Speaker 1: the mistake of telling my mom I gave him my number.
- 12:08Speaker 1: She was like, oh, that's too you have nephews that age.
- 12:11Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, first of all, my sister's fourteen years
- 12:14Speaker 1: older than me. That's your fault.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 12:17Speaker 1: The second of all, I'm like, well, I mean, and
- 12:19Speaker 1: I ended up texting. He was like, you know, let's
- 12:22Speaker 1: get some tacos and go to the beach. And I
- 12:23Speaker 1: was like, okay, it's too cute. Days so cute, right,
- 12:28Speaker 1: But the day before I ended up canceling and I
- 12:30Speaker 1: just I saw him on his Instagram and he was
- 12:33Speaker 1: like going to university for I was like, I was like, babe,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, like this, I can't. I can't. You're
- 12:38Speaker 1: too young, Like I can't.
- 12:40Speaker 3: We can't, we can't do university.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Yeah, he was doing some sort of universe. I think
- 12:43Speaker 1: he was an athlete. I don't know.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Right the way you look at no, I'm with you.
- 12:50Speaker 2: The I'm the same. It's it's it's too young. Yeah,
- 12:52Speaker 2: And it's not so much about that. I have nephews
- 12:53Speaker 2: at age too, so I'm like, this is just not
- 12:56Speaker 2: that's not the space for me to be in. But
- 12:59Speaker 2: it's you know, also, so I don't want kids. I've
- 13:03Speaker 2: been married, like, I'm just in a different, different space
- 13:05Speaker 2: in life.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want any more kids. So when
- 13:08Speaker 1: you meet somebody who's young, yeah, they don't get it
- 13:11Speaker 1: that stuff.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and they'll say.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Whatever, I don't. I don't haven't decided of course you
- 13:17Speaker 2: haven't decided. You don't even know who you are. Respectfully,
- 13:20Speaker 2: you don't, Like I didn't know who I was for
- 13:22Speaker 2: a very long time and I'm still finding out. So
- 13:26Speaker 2: it just it just takes time to develop as a person.
- 13:28Speaker 2: I mean the person I was at twenty two is
- 13:30Speaker 2: as a monster. Monster, I was a monster.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what what age do you think you
- 13:36Speaker 1: were when you've kind of kind of solidified who you were,
- 13:39Speaker 1: like most authentic to of course, you like grow more
- 13:42Speaker 1: in authenticity, but like you really solidify like, oh okay,
- 13:45Speaker 1: this is like I'm pretty solid and who I am.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Honestly, I think around thirty four.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I but because.
- 13:56Speaker 2: I've just had a lot of trauma, I've had to
- 14:00Speaker 2: just kind of like survive, So I hadn't spent a
- 14:03Speaker 2: lot of time really thinking about like what I want
- 14:07Speaker 2: for myself other than you know, my career, what I
- 14:11Speaker 2: really like stand in what makes me feel good? And
- 14:14Speaker 2: I think as a woman also when it comes to
- 14:18Speaker 2: your body, the older you get, at least for me,
- 14:20Speaker 2: the more comfortable I've gotten in my body. Yes, fact,
- 14:23Speaker 2: so you know you think as you get older, you're like, oh,
- 14:25Speaker 2: I'm gonna hate more about my body, and there are
- 14:28Speaker 2: things that I'm like, oh that didn't used to be there,
- 14:29Speaker 2: but it's there now. But like you just get, you
- 14:32Speaker 2: give less fucks the older that you get. Yes, And
- 14:35Speaker 2: so for me, I'm like, if I'm healthy, I'm cool
- 14:38Speaker 2: m hm. And everyone's just gonna get whatever kind of
- 14:41Speaker 2: body I roll out today and you're welcome. But to me,
- 14:45Speaker 2: like those type of things like being confident in my body,
- 14:48Speaker 2: being confident in my spirit, being confident in like the
- 14:50Speaker 2: things that I know I need to work on, like
- 14:51Speaker 2: being honest with myself. I mean, I don't know if
- 14:54Speaker 2: thirty four is an old age to do that, but
- 14:55Speaker 2: it's just that's when it happened.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say for me it was probably like
- 15:01Speaker 1: thirty two, probably like the moment I got pregnant. Well, yeah,
- 15:06Speaker 1: that'll look like that year.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:08Speaker 1: And then do you.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Think that the pregnancy just forced you into it because
- 15:14Speaker 2: of the new responsibilities.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I would say forced as a harsh word, but it
- 15:19Speaker 1: was more about like acceptance, and it was also like
- 15:22Speaker 1: a mindset shift, like you know what, you're a grown woman,
- 15:26Speaker 1: you make good decisions, you know what's best for you. You're
- 15:29Speaker 1: in control of your life, you have power, over everything,
- 15:32Speaker 1: and it just made me feel like, Okay, it's time
- 15:34Speaker 1: to step into your power and stop acting like somebody
- 15:37Speaker 1: else's is better, you know at making decisions about your
- 15:40Speaker 1: life than you.
- 15:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and you have to trust yourself. Yes.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Do you feel like motherhood has changed you in a
- 15:50Speaker 2: way that you feel more confident? One?
- 15:53Speaker 1: And most people would say, oh, after you give birth.
- 15:56Speaker 1: There was a time where I felt insecure about my
- 15:58Speaker 1: body just because of the changes I've given birth. But
- 16:00Speaker 1: this is the most comfortable I've ever felt. This is
- 16:02Speaker 1: the hottest I've ever felt, like, please please baby, bad
- 16:06Speaker 1: babbie babby.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Absolutely, you'll get no, You'll get no protests out of us.
- 16:13Speaker 3: That is the fact.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Yeah. What what about your comedy has changed? Do you
- 16:17Speaker 2: feel like you hold back that you have, Like, obviously
- 16:20Speaker 2: you're very public that you have your mother mamasita, But
- 16:25Speaker 2: do you feel like you censor yourself at all? No?
- 16:29Speaker 1: I feel like I grow closer to my most authentic self.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I think that after like, being a mom has made
- 16:34Speaker 1: me more vocal, has made me more I mean, it's
- 16:39Speaker 1: made me more like sexual, It's made me more just
- 16:44Speaker 1: like open with my opinions and my views on things.
- 16:48Speaker 1: And that translates into my comedy quite a bit. Like
- 16:51Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm just loud and just unhinged,
- 16:54Speaker 1: is what I always say.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. What how do you balance the.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Onslaught of average like NonStop bullshit every day politics, like
- 17:08Speaker 2: horrible shit going on in the world. How do you
- 17:10Speaker 2: decide what about that you're going to talk about in
- 17:12Speaker 2: your comedy?
- 17:13Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I think my comedy is more
- 17:15Speaker 1: about my own personal experience, and sometimes I talk about
- 17:18Speaker 1: a few a few things that happen in politics, but
- 17:21Speaker 1: not really. I'm not really a political comedian in my
- 17:24Speaker 1: stand up because I do on social media, I do
- 17:27Speaker 1: post about politics some and I try to balance, right,
- 17:30Speaker 1: there are some things that I think people should know
- 17:32Speaker 1: and should be talking about, but also I want to
- 17:35Speaker 1: create a space where people do feel safe coming too
- 17:37Speaker 1: my page and laughing and escaping and experiencing a key key.
- 17:40Speaker 1: So it's a balance there, and stand up is the
- 17:43Speaker 1: same way, Like I might make a few jokes up
- 17:45Speaker 1: at the top about politics and what might be going
- 17:48Speaker 1: on there, but mostly it's about let me tell you
- 17:50Speaker 1: about what I've been going through behind the scenes that
- 17:52Speaker 1: you would never even know or let's talk about you guys,
- 17:54Speaker 1: let's keep I really want it to be an experience
- 17:56Speaker 1: where we feel, like somebody said the other day, You're
- 18:00Speaker 1: comedy show felt like a group, like a big hangout.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Oh that's such a good compliment.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really nice. And she was like, it
- 18:06Speaker 1: felt like I was hanging out with my friends, and
- 18:08Speaker 1: I loved that. I was like, that's how I wanted
- 18:10Speaker 1: to feel.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Have you ever been heckled?
- 18:13Speaker 2: Girl?
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, so many times.
- 18:16Speaker 2: I think that we okay. So there's some certain things
- 18:20Speaker 2: I think you should go straight to jail for. Hackling
- 18:22Speaker 2: is one of them. Straight to jail, Yeah, no trial,
- 18:24Speaker 2: straight to prison, throw away the key?
- 18:27Speaker 3: Why because here?
- 18:28Speaker 2: Because I feel like hackling is selfishly not about the comedian.
- 18:33Speaker 2: You're taking up my time. You're not funny. I didn't
- 18:36Speaker 2: pay to hear you. Who the fuck are you?
- 18:39Speaker 3: Guy or lady?
- 18:41Speaker 2: Like I am here to consume comedy from professionals, you
- 18:45Speaker 2: are taking time away from their set with your Blogonney.
- 18:49Speaker 2: So straight to prison or straight to an island, I
- 18:53Speaker 2: don't even care. But how did you handle it?
- 18:56Speaker 3: You know what?
- 18:56Speaker 1: Nowadays I've been handling it kind of the same way
- 19:00Speaker 1: was at the laugh factory like two weeks ago, and
- 19:03Speaker 1: this woman was heckling everybody before me, right, and I
- 19:06Speaker 1: think maybe I went third and when I got on
- 19:08Speaker 1: stage she said her first thing. I said, how girl,
- 19:10Speaker 1: you don't say nothing else? You be quiet, you know,
- 19:13Speaker 1: and that typically makes them shut up. So you just
- 19:16Speaker 1: called come and you you done?
- 19:19Speaker 3: All right?
- 19:19Speaker 1: Don't say don't say nothing else, You're done, and they
- 19:23Speaker 1: typically be quiet.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Why do comedies like places not kick them out?
- 19:29Speaker 1: Sometimes they do, like they they watched them, and then
- 19:33Speaker 1: like even after your set, they'll be like, do you
- 19:35Speaker 1: think like we should kick this person out? Like are
- 19:37Speaker 1: you okay? Do you what do you think? They asked
- 19:38Speaker 1: the comedians too, like and sometimes comics have the power
- 19:41Speaker 1: to say, can you just get that person out of here?
- 19:43Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 19:43Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's never been so disruptive you've kicked someone out.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I mean, I've had a white man jump on stage
- 19:50Speaker 1: while I was doing comedy. I had a white man
- 19:54Speaker 1: in Dallas. Actually I completely tore him to shreds for
- 19:57Speaker 1: probably about fifteen minutes, and I wish I I got
- 20:00Speaker 1: it on camera, but I actually dropped my camera before recording.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this is God?
- 20:07Speaker 3: Who I ate?
- 20:08Speaker 1: They have man up and he told me, he was like,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to be because I called out.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I was like, well you got your arms folded, like
- 20:13Speaker 1: what's up?
- 20:13Speaker 2: You know.
- 20:13Speaker 1: He was like, I'm waiting for you to be funny.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I say, oh, oh were funny? Now, oh we got
- 20:19Speaker 1: to get real funny. And I spent I spent fifteen
- 20:22Speaker 1: minutes roasting him.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Roasting. Roasting is uh, roasting is a real art.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:27Speaker 2: I used to roast people on Twitter before I retired
- 20:30Speaker 2: from Twitter. Yeah, and it's you know, if you really
- 20:36Speaker 2: are very mean, which I consider myself. Yeah, it's kind
- 20:39Speaker 2: of it's very fun. It was like a sport to me.
- 20:41Speaker 1: It's fun.
- 20:42Speaker 2: But the Internet has changed so much. It's like it's
- 20:44Speaker 2: a very well, first of all, there's so many bots. Yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 2: it's such a volatile place. It's really hard to for
- 20:51Speaker 2: me anyway to find a space to really like interact
- 20:54Speaker 2: with fans, which I think is really important for community building.
- 20:58Speaker 2: How is it for because obviously sports is just I
- 21:01Speaker 2: mean sports fans, we only communicate in atrocities basically, Yeah,
- 21:06Speaker 2: how is it in comedy.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Like communicating with fans? And you know, I respond, I
- 21:12Speaker 1: think people know on Instagram. I respond to my dms
- 21:14Speaker 1: as much as I can, Like every day I respond
- 21:16Speaker 1: to you know, at least twenty and so I love that.
- 21:18Speaker 1: It's a kekey a lot of the times it's the
- 21:20Speaker 1: same people and we laugh and everything like that. I
- 21:23Speaker 1: think I have a really good space or community. Like
- 21:26Speaker 1: people think I get a lot of hate, I really don't.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Eighty five percent women follow me on TikTok and Instagram,
- 21:32Speaker 1: and then on Facebook I get more hate because it's
- 21:34Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty. But you know, when the when
- 21:38Speaker 1: the guys on Facebook get rowdy, my dad's in the comments,
- 21:41Speaker 1: were responded to people, and I'm in the comments too,
- 21:45Speaker 1: just you know, the main thing they'd be like, oh,
- 21:46Speaker 1: you're just looking for attention, you just want attention. I say, here,
- 21:49Speaker 1: you are giving it to me, daddy.
- 21:53Speaker 3: And you know, on a strange thing to say on
- 21:55Speaker 3: the internet.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Every time someone says that, like yes, yeah, that's the
- 22:01Speaker 2: points Like that is literally the point of being a
- 22:03Speaker 2: front facing person. That is how we pay our bills
- 22:06Speaker 2: is attention. Yeah, what are you talking about?
- 22:09Speaker 1: I literally stand on stage and say, hey, everybody listen
- 22:11Speaker 1: to me, right you're a comedian, Like, yes, that's is
- 22:15Speaker 1: it hard.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Well is it hard? Of course it's hard.
- 22:17Speaker 2: But I mean I view comedy, particularly stand up comedy,
- 22:23Speaker 2: as a very misogynistic and mostly male dominated.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Space for sure. What is it like, Because.
- 22:31Speaker 2: There has been some I think there's been a little
- 22:34Speaker 2: bit of a shift, But what is it like being
- 22:37Speaker 2: a black woman in comedy?
- 22:39Speaker 1: Well, it's so hard, I think, you know. I think,
- 22:44Speaker 1: if you know, if I'm one hundred percent transparent, I
- 22:47Speaker 1: think a white woman can get online and say one
- 22:50Speaker 1: thing that people think is entertaining, get a podcast, get
- 22:53Speaker 1: a show, get all types of things. And as a
- 22:55Speaker 1: black woman who has created several things over I mean,
- 22:57Speaker 1: I went to school for broadcast communications, like I went
- 22:59Speaker 1: to school to create content, you know, and be I
- 23:02Speaker 1: wanted to have my own show mixed between Wendy Williams
- 23:04Speaker 1: and Oprah, and that's still sort of my goal, you know.
- 23:07Speaker 1: But I think I have to constantly prove that I'm
- 23:10Speaker 1: talented or funny over and over and over, and people
- 23:13Speaker 1: are still like, we don't really know what to do
- 23:15Speaker 1: with her. So it's challenging in that aspect, you know.
- 23:20Speaker 1: And I think there are you know, just a lot
- 23:23Speaker 1: of people who accept the same sort of jokes and
- 23:27Speaker 1: content from men and they laugh every time. But you know,
- 23:31Speaker 1: women's like, you're not funny. Oh we've heard that before.
- 23:33Speaker 1: That's not funny, you know. So I think I think
- 23:36Speaker 1: it's just more difficult to prove yourself and have other
- 23:39Speaker 1: people see your talents, you know, and recognize it and
- 23:43Speaker 1: give you your flowers.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I think.
- 23:44Speaker 1: So that's it's like the main thing. But that kind
- 23:46Speaker 1: of runs everything. It runs like who books you, what
- 23:49Speaker 1: opportunities you get, how many tickets you sell? All of
- 23:51Speaker 1: these things, you know. So yeah, it's really difficult, but
- 23:55Speaker 1: I have a lot of tenacity.
- 23:58Speaker 3: I know.
- 23:59Speaker 1: I want to quit. I called my friend, I called
- 24:01Speaker 1: Bob the Drag Queen last week and said, hey, I
- 24:03Speaker 1: text him. I said, hey, do you have twenty minutes
- 24:05Speaker 1: for me to cry on the phone with you, because
- 24:07Speaker 1: if you have the emotional capacity, let me know. And
- 24:10Speaker 1: Bob was like, i'll call you in twenty minutes. And
- 24:12Speaker 1: then I want to quit and he's like, no, you're
- 24:15Speaker 1: too talented. I'm like, thank you, and we get off
- 24:18Speaker 1: the phone and I go write emails.
- 24:21Speaker 3: You know.
- 24:21Speaker 1: So that's what it is. It's just constantly reminding yourself
- 24:25Speaker 1: of what the truth is and the truth is on
- 24:27Speaker 1: very talented, So you just have to keep going. But
- 24:30Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult.
- 24:32Speaker 2: It's you know, everything you're describing is incredibly similar to
- 24:36Speaker 2: the sports space, and you have to constantly affirm while
- 24:41Speaker 2: you're there. It's like, Okay, I've only been doing this
- 24:43Speaker 2: twenty years. I like, okay, I don't have I haven't
- 24:47Speaker 2: done enough yet. Like okay, great, we'll run this back again. Yeah,
- 24:51Speaker 2: well we'll start at the bottom again. And I think
- 24:53Speaker 2: it like you have to reach a point, unfortunately in
- 24:56Speaker 2: your career, where you have that real big breakthrough moment,
- 25:00Speaker 2: and then even in that, you still have to stay consistent.
- 25:03Speaker 2: And that's I mean, that is just what happens with
- 25:06Speaker 2: black women. Is like you have to always affirm why
- 25:08Speaker 2: you're there. You always have to be the best. You
- 25:10Speaker 2: always have to be the earliest, you always have to
- 25:11Speaker 2: be ahead of the curb. You always have to be
- 25:13Speaker 2: the most creative, you have to be the funniest every
- 25:16Speaker 2: single time. And it's exhausting, and you need those people
- 25:19Speaker 2: in your life that you can just say that those
- 25:21Speaker 2: things too and then not hold it against you. I
- 25:23Speaker 2: mean I have had those many of those womens where
- 25:26Speaker 2: I'm like I'm gonna go seut baked potatoes, like right,
- 25:31Speaker 2: you know, because it just seems easier. Yeah, But then
- 25:35Speaker 2: it's like you're in a competition with yourself, Like so
- 25:38Speaker 2: you let them win, then you're like, I'm tired.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Yeah, gives the fuck if they win?
- 25:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know the business needs you, yeah, you know. So,
- 25:47Speaker 1: and then just reminding yourself like oh my God, like
- 25:53Speaker 1: and I feel like God also sends me reminders that
- 25:56Speaker 1: this is what you should be doing. Like people will
- 25:58Speaker 1: be like, oh, I hate to interrupt, I hate to
- 25:59Speaker 1: come up to you, but I love your work. I'm like, no, please,
- 26:02Speaker 1: Like that is God telling me don't stop keep going.
- 26:05Speaker 1: When people come up to me and say, hey girl,
- 26:06Speaker 1: I just love your I love your videos, that is
- 26:09Speaker 1: like a little reminder from me. You know, I really
- 26:12Speaker 1: appreciate it. So yeah, I'm constantly reminding myself. But you
- 26:15Speaker 1: I am thinking about selling my bathwater girl.
- 26:20Speaker 3: You know, didn't Sidney Sweeney do that? Did she? I
- 26:25Speaker 3: feel like, was that a joke?
- 26:27Speaker 2: I don't want to have gotten I feel like she
- 26:29Speaker 2: did her maybe like bathwater soap or something.
- 26:32Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not buying Sidney Sweeney's bathwater.
- 26:35Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy it either.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Oh her soap.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Okay, So I misread the title of that. Her soap
- 26:40Speaker 2: is called bathwater, So does it have her bathwater?
- 26:45Speaker 3: Anyway?
- 26:46Speaker 2: I'm I support, really, I mean, I'm not gonna use bathwater,
- 26:49Speaker 2: but as your friend, I will support.
- 26:51Speaker 3: I'll buy some bathwater just.
- 26:53Speaker 1: For thirsty men anyway, because y'all I can sol thirsty
- 26:55Speaker 1: unto my page. Let me give you something, bathwater something.
- 26:59Speaker 3: What is the craziest thing a male fan has asked
- 27:01Speaker 3: you for other than sex? Obviously, you know.
- 27:04Speaker 1: None of them have ever asked me for a sex.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Nobody's DMD you like, yo, I'm trying to fuck. No,
- 27:10Speaker 2: I would have posted that.
- 27:13Speaker 3: You lucky. I don't want to go. No, they are
- 27:17Speaker 3: fucking ferocious.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure they are. But don't you have a
- 27:20Speaker 1: lot of men who follow you just because of the
- 27:22Speaker 1: industry you work in?
- 27:22Speaker 2: Like, oh for sure, Yeah, I have a large me fling.
- 27:25Speaker 2: I've gotten a DM from a man that was like,
- 27:27Speaker 2: you're trying to fuck. I was like, wow, that's so unoriginal.
- 27:30Speaker 1: He's oh my god, and may be just so unfuckable
- 27:33Speaker 1: to them.
- 27:33Speaker 2: One well, he was fuckable, but what they disappointment but
- 27:37Speaker 2: I was like, damn, that's all the game you got.
- 27:39Speaker 3: You have to hear me with some better shit than that.
- 27:41Speaker 3: That's a terrible line.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Oh honey, I would have said, sent me three pictures
- 27:44Speaker 1: in a biostro application.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Sex is like I don't know. Sex to me is
- 27:53Speaker 2: so like I could not have sex with a stranger. Well,
- 27:57Speaker 2: I could not have sex.
- 27:58Speaker 3: As a stranger.
- 27:59Speaker 2: I'm no judgment, but I just need like a I
- 28:03Speaker 2: need an emotional connection of something because I want I
- 28:07Speaker 2: have to like really feel safe or it's not going
- 28:09Speaker 2: to feel good to me. And so that's really more
- 28:12Speaker 2: of the reason why I say like a stranger is
- 28:13Speaker 2: not doesn't work for me because like there's not gonna
- 28:16Speaker 2: be an emotional connection. I'm not going to feel safe.
- 28:18Speaker 2: I don't want to worry about being murdered throughout this experience.
- 28:20Speaker 2: It's not really my thing, you know, a little just
- 28:25Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, You know what I mean,
- 28:27Speaker 2: not like real Yeah, so yeah, I just I'm not
- 28:31Speaker 2: you're trying to fuck thing in the dms' is just
- 28:32Speaker 2: not solid.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Well you know that's funny, Okay, So I was just
- 28:37Speaker 1: because I was in a relationship and married for a
- 28:39Speaker 1: while I wanted to have a one night stand pretty bad,
- 28:42Speaker 1: and I talk about this in my stand up now,
- 28:44Speaker 1: and I tried to it didn't really work out. I
- 28:49Speaker 1: tried to have sex with a stranger.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Hold on, So did it become a two nights standard?
- 28:58Speaker 3: Is that like that it became.
- 29:00Speaker 1: We went on a date and had some cocktails, went
- 29:05Speaker 1: back to his place and me, yea yea yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 2: It was so weird.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Wait wait wait oh. I was like, why did you
- 29:16Speaker 1: even bring me here? Why would you even bring anybody
- 29:18Speaker 1: back here? And why don't you have like an extender strap.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Something, you know, give me something?
- 29:24Speaker 1: I had me coming over here for nothing.
- 29:26Speaker 3: I would argue with you, but I have seen one
- 29:28Speaker 3: of those before, and it's like.
- 29:30Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but a little mushroom, like a little just
- 29:34Speaker 1: right on top of the balls. I'm sure he pee
- 29:37Speaker 1: on his balls and.
- 29:39Speaker 3: It's my favorite. It was bad. So you were like,
- 29:44Speaker 3: this is just not this is not the one night
- 29:46Speaker 3: stand I want to have.
- 29:47Speaker 1: It just wasn't happening. It wasn't gonna happen, like was
- 29:51Speaker 1: it like.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Was it have girth at least? Girl?
- 29:56Speaker 1: It was barely anything Like it was like one of
- 29:59Speaker 1: those little pick it was like it was a micro penis.
- 30:02Speaker 1: It was tiny, and I was like, maybe put your
- 30:07Speaker 1: clothes back on.
- 30:08Speaker 3: No, you didn't do them like.
- 30:10Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, I apologize. I know I
- 30:15Speaker 1: felt bad. I was very kind to him, but he
- 30:19Speaker 1: shouldn't have brought me back there.
- 30:21Speaker 3: Okay, maybe he thought.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck he thought. No, I
- 30:28Speaker 1: don't know what you could have thought. Where you thought
- 30:30Speaker 1: you gonna come home and have a different you gonna
- 30:32Speaker 1: have a different situation. No, come on, now, ain't no way.
- 30:38Speaker 3: Yeah, the micro penis is tough. It's tough to me.
- 30:40Speaker 1: That's like me bringing a guy back to my place
- 30:43Speaker 1: and I got Barbie Doll coucie. It's just nothing there.
- 30:45Speaker 3: What are we gonna do with that? Barbie Doll Cucci?
- 30:48Speaker 3: Just smooth, no hole, just no hole, just smooth. I
- 30:53Speaker 3: was like, what smooth?
- 30:55Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, there's no parts, no parts that
- 30:59Speaker 1: might as well be in that.
- 31:01Speaker 2: You know.
- 31:03Speaker 3: I don't like to body shame people.
- 31:04Speaker 1: People gonna get rip me up for body shaming.
- 31:06Speaker 2: But I have done the same thing, not like a
- 31:11Speaker 2: one night stand situation, but yeah, like I've been like prepared.
- 31:15Speaker 1: You got to know him.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Yeah even worse. Oh no, like I adored the person.
- 31:19Speaker 2: So I was like, oh my god, did he tell
- 31:21Speaker 2: you ahead of time?
- 31:22Speaker 3: No, I don't think he thinks it is.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Oh no, he knows.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 31:28Speaker 3: How how can you like be?
- 31:30Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 31:31Speaker 3: So you're just like big bravado.
- 31:35Speaker 1: He knows.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he knows.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Benefit of the doubt. You're really giving it because he knows,
- 31:43Speaker 1: but you can see it. Yeah, and he's seen other
- 31:46Speaker 1: people's and he's watched movies or watched you know, adult content,
- 31:52Speaker 1: or had other experiences before you.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yeah, so is this has this dissuaded you from pursuing
- 31:57Speaker 3: a one night sand? You still have time?
- 31:59Speaker 1: I know now I feel like, Okay, I ask every
- 32:04Speaker 1: man for a picture, and so they're penis, Yes, send
- 32:09Speaker 1: it to me. I gotta see what I'm working with.
- 32:12Speaker 3: What you have a catalog of dick pics? Amazing Google Drive?
- 32:19Speaker 3: Do they have to be they're just like just the
- 32:20Speaker 3: dick though not the full body?
- 32:22Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what they send me.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know spe'sfy.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Yeah, it's locked down.
- 32:27Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I love a good dick pic. When requested.
- 32:33Speaker 2: When requested on solicited is yeah, is the quickest way
- 32:38Speaker 2: to get me to never talk to you again?
- 32:40Speaker 3: Who asked you a stick? And if I don't know you,
- 32:43Speaker 3: of course not.
- 32:43Speaker 2: I mean I actually had to put multiple like sensors
- 32:48Speaker 2: on my emails and things because like people checking emails
- 32:51Speaker 2: from me and they're like, how are you getting all
- 32:53Speaker 2: these dick pics?
- 32:53Speaker 3: So like, well, like, yeah, I've seen thousands of dicks.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Unfortunately it's crazy.
- 32:58Speaker 1: I've only you asked me what was the crazy.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Is maybe not thousands, but thousands is unsolicited, Like they'd.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Just be slipping it in there, like.
- 33:09Speaker 2: It's always a terrible photo, like, oh yeah, aesthetic at all.
- 33:13Speaker 3: This is not the angle. It's not the angle. What
- 33:17Speaker 3: is this angle?
- 33:18Speaker 2: It's just all like it's terrible. It's a terrible angle.
- 33:21Speaker 2: Learn your angles. The very at the least you could
- 33:24Speaker 2: do is learn your angles. Just stand up, give it
- 33:28Speaker 2: a good hog tug, really standing up to sit down.
- 33:31Speaker 3: This thing.
- 33:33Speaker 1: My favorite ones have been like leaned back.
- 33:35Speaker 3: On the bed. I think, yeah, but like they're doing
- 33:37Speaker 3: this thing though, I think.
- 33:38Speaker 1: They're like all the way flat because yeah, flat flat,
- 33:41Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
- 33:42Speaker 2: But I'm talking about like sitting like this, like their stomach,
- 33:47Speaker 2: isn't it I'm telling you, I'm yeah, don't send me
- 33:51Speaker 2: those like just if you're gonna do it, just make
- 33:52Speaker 2: it artistic, you know.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think Okay, an unsolicited dick pick has
- 33:58Speaker 1: been one of the worst things I've ever read, But
- 34:00Speaker 1: I think the most interesting thing I ever received in
- 34:03Speaker 1: my DMS was, you know, I do angry cooking videos
- 34:06Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh I do, I'm angry a lot.
- 34:08Speaker 1: People are like you're so mad. I'm like, yeah, I am.
- 34:11Speaker 1: But a guy DMed me and asked me to look
- 34:15Speaker 1: at his page and send him a video of me
- 34:17Speaker 1: roasting him for one minute, and he would pay me
- 34:19Speaker 1: for it. And I said, oh, absolutely, how much? He said,
- 34:23Speaker 1: what's your price? I said fifteen hundred. He said that's
- 34:25Speaker 1: too much. I said, I'm famous. He was like that's
- 34:29Speaker 1: too much. Yeazz, like please, like he was really wanted
- 34:31Speaker 1: to negotiate. I said, okay, well, what's your price? He
- 34:34Speaker 1: was like one fifty. I was like that's too low,
- 34:36Speaker 1: Like I have to use my artistic ability to go
- 34:38Speaker 1: to your page, think of something mean to say, and
- 34:41Speaker 1: send you a minute's worth of comedy.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Right and suspends the fact that you're going to jerk
- 34:46Speaker 3: off to this exactly, you know.
- 34:49Speaker 1: And he was like, uh, I was like, come back
- 34:51Speaker 1: when you can afford it. Oh yeah, and he was
- 34:56Speaker 1: like okay. Well He's like maybe i'll shoot you later
- 34:58Speaker 1: and see if like we can negotiate or whatever, but
- 35:01Speaker 1: he never did again.
- 35:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, you could you can make a
- 35:05Speaker 2: really good living out of that. I want to you
- 35:07Speaker 2: could definitely be a dominatrix.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're that's like you. It requires a
- 35:13Speaker 2: real skill, yeah, to be it, to.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Be a dominatrix.
- 35:18Speaker 2: I want to go back to the to the one
- 35:20Speaker 2: night stand thing. What is what is it that you
- 35:22Speaker 2: what is interesting about it to you? Or it is
- 35:25Speaker 2: just like a box you want to check.
- 35:27Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a box I want to
- 35:30Speaker 1: check maybe, or thought I wanted to check, you know.
- 35:33Speaker 1: But it's just about the fact that, you know, I
- 35:36Speaker 1: grew up in a very religious environment, and then you
- 35:39Speaker 1: spend out your time doing the right thing, which is
- 35:42Speaker 1: like you know, dedicating your life to somebody and maybe
- 35:44Speaker 1: it doesn't work out. And then just the freedom of
- 35:47Speaker 1: expression and just being free in general. I'm free to
- 35:49Speaker 1: do whatever it is that I want to do. So
- 35:52Speaker 1: if I ever come to a place, I'm not looking
- 35:54Speaker 1: for a person to have one night stand with. But
- 35:56Speaker 1: it just felt like, oh, this might be a good opportunity.
- 35:58Speaker 1: I had a good time. Let's see what this turns into.
- 36:01Speaker 1: And it turned into that, So maybe that's like, yeah,
- 36:05Speaker 1: but I'm not like, oh, I don't do that. I
- 36:10Speaker 1: don't have one night stands. It's not gonna be that.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Maybe there will be a time in the future where
- 36:14Speaker 1: I feel a vibe and it will happen.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:17Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in a religious home also,
- 36:20Speaker 2: and I think like finding a space for yourself sexually
- 36:23Speaker 2: as a woman when and I don't even know if
- 36:26Speaker 2: it's just religious, but certainly I only speaks in my
- 36:28Speaker 2: experience the constant like reaffirming that sex is evil and
- 36:34Speaker 2: sex is only meant for marriage, and that if you're
- 36:37Speaker 2: not a virgin, you are useless, and you know that
- 36:42Speaker 2: you could never have a child with someone that you're
- 36:45Speaker 2: not married to, and there's just all of these constant
- 36:48Speaker 2: things like don't if you think about it, you're wrong,
- 36:51Speaker 2: and like if you do, and it puts this insane
- 36:54Speaker 2: pressure on sex that you don't feel comfortable talking about it.
- 36:58Speaker 3: You don't feel comfortable experimenting to see what you like.
- 37:01Speaker 2: You don't feel comfortable moving into certain phases with people
- 37:05Speaker 2: that you love. You put almost too much emphasis on
- 37:10Speaker 2: the act itself that it causes you anxiety and you're
- 37:13Speaker 2: not actually enjoying it because you feel like you're doing
- 37:15Speaker 2: something wrong as opposed to something natural. And for me,
- 37:21Speaker 2: I'm very protective of my sexual freedom because it took
- 37:26Speaker 2: me a long time to develop the skill to be
- 37:29Speaker 2: comfortable with like, Okay, this is my choice.
- 37:31Speaker 3: I'm choosing to do this.
- 37:33Speaker 2: This person doesn't owe me anything, or they do owe
- 37:35Speaker 2: me something like, and I'm reasonable about what it is
- 37:38Speaker 2: they owe me, you know, like I've invested this amount
- 37:41Speaker 2: of time in them, they've invested in me. This is
- 37:43Speaker 2: the appropriate response the next day because of that, you know,
- 37:46Speaker 2: like you move as an adult, you know, with like
- 37:49Speaker 2: a level of emotional intelligence once you achieve that.
- 37:54Speaker 3: So that's good that you're doing.
- 37:55Speaker 1: That, absolutely, And that's one reason. There's multiple reasons why
- 37:58Speaker 1: I started Jazz after Dark, the podcast, but everything you
- 38:01Speaker 1: just listed is why. But it's mainly it's like I
- 38:04Speaker 1: can't even call my girlfriends and talk about sex with
- 38:06Speaker 1: you guys, because y'all are like, oh, girl, I don't know,
- 38:08Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 38:10Speaker 3: I don't know, girl, I don't know.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Well, what are you like in the bedroom?
- 38:13Speaker 2: Girl?
- 38:14Speaker 3: I don't know. Girl.
- 38:15Speaker 1: I just damn we can't even have an open conversation
- 38:18Speaker 1: as women, so we can actually take control of our
- 38:20Speaker 1: own experiences, you know. And then also the one that
- 38:24Speaker 1: back to the one night stand thing. It's like women
- 38:27Speaker 1: have so many rules like I only wait ninety days
- 38:29Speaker 1: or Steve Harvey said you gotta wait ninety days or whatever,
- 38:32Speaker 1: as if like if a man's gonna respect me, a
- 38:35Speaker 1: man should respect me the first time I meet him.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Men don't gain respect for you, Okay, they either respect
- 38:41Speaker 1: you or they don't. So I'm not here for like
- 38:44Speaker 1: respectability politics as if I wait, he will respect me more. No,
- 38:47Speaker 1: I'm looking for a man that respect me day one. Yeah, okay,
- 38:50Speaker 1: because before we do it, you gonna rub my feet.
- 38:52Speaker 3: You gone big?
- 38:53Speaker 1: Actually, and they do? You know what I mean? So yeah,
- 38:59Speaker 1: respect me immediately. That's yeah, you're right about that.
- 39:03Speaker 2: I mean, I think I My waiting policy is more
- 39:08Speaker 2: for me, like it's not about is this person gonna
- 39:11Speaker 2: respect me? Like you can make somebody wait a year.
- 39:13Speaker 2: You can make someone wait two days. You can fuck
- 39:16Speaker 2: somebody on the first night. It doesn't to your point,
- 39:18Speaker 2: they either respect you, they like you, or they don't.
- 39:20Speaker 2: But for me, it's more about like me getting to
- 39:24Speaker 2: a place where I feel emotionally and physically safe to
- 39:28Speaker 2: do it.
- 39:28Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's your power though, Well that's
- 39:31Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Like I think, I think women and a lot of
- 39:33Speaker 2: you're absolutely right, Like women are or taught not to
- 39:37Speaker 2: talk about these things. Men can be brash, men can
- 39:41Speaker 2: talk about these things. Men can talk about them these
- 39:44Speaker 2: you know, boys would be boys.
- 39:45Speaker 3: All of that.
- 39:45Speaker 2: Yeah, and when women talk about it, you are, you know,
- 39:49Speaker 2: considered to be fast or sludy. Good, You're talking about
- 39:52Speaker 2: things that everyone does, right, Like, we're not getting into
- 39:56Speaker 2: the nuances of what you particularly like in the bedroom,
- 40:00Speaker 2: like lreaby you are, you know, but that doesn't mean it,
- 40:03Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you you're a certain type of person.
- 40:05Speaker 2: It just means that you are a sexually active adult, right.
- 40:09Speaker 2: And I think destigmatizing sex is has well it's not
- 40:13Speaker 2: the sex has been destigmatized. But we talked about it
- 40:15Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago where there are more women
- 40:18Speaker 2: in their forties having children now, yeah than there are teenagers.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Yeah, which is how it should be.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Right, not necessarily that you need to have kids in
- 40:28Speaker 2: your forties, but you know, children shouldn't be having children, right.
- 40:32Speaker 2: And if we can do this sex education, if we
- 40:35Speaker 2: can destigmatize sex in a way that people feel comfortable
- 40:38Speaker 2: asking for condoms, asking for birth control, having conversations with
- 40:42Speaker 2: their parents about when they want to become sexually active
- 40:44Speaker 2: as opposed to being like, don't have sex ever.
- 40:47Speaker 1: That's what my parents told me. Stop when they pout out.
- 40:51Speaker 1: I wasn't a virgin.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Not.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Everybody just calmed down.
- 40:56Speaker 3: It just stop, you know. And I was like, okay,
- 40:59Speaker 3: well I guess you know, I'll try. Like what is
- 41:03Speaker 3: that achieving? Though?
- 41:04Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 41:05Speaker 2: Meanwhile, meanwhile, men are encouraged to do the absolute fucking most.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're given the tools, given the tools, they're encouraged.
- 41:13Speaker 2: They're encouraged a young age. They have conversations younger yeah,
- 41:17Speaker 2: like sixth grade. Yeah, like sixth grade. No, if a
- 41:21Speaker 2: boy talked to me in sixth grade, I was like,
- 41:23Speaker 2: oh what.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And everybody changes, you.
- 41:27Speaker 2: Know, everyone goes on their own, It grows at their
- 41:30Speaker 2: own pace. But it's just it's such a different world. Yeah,
- 41:33Speaker 2: I mean, I love the fact that.
- 41:37Speaker 1: And I'm I did a whole YouTube video about like
- 41:40Speaker 1: things I would tell myself in my twenties, and when
- 41:43Speaker 1: girls who are in their twenties like are on my live,
- 41:45Speaker 1: I say, go watch that video. Go watch that video.
- 41:47Speaker 1: And one of the main things I say, your twenties
- 41:50Speaker 1: are not for long term relationships. They're not for kids.
- 41:53Speaker 1: They're for self development, fun, torking in Miami, figuring out
- 41:58Speaker 1: what you want to do with your life, crime and
- 42:00Speaker 1: laughing and hanging out and developing community and moving to
- 42:04Speaker 1: somewhere else that you didn't grow up. It's not for
- 42:07Speaker 1: giving birth, it's not for finding a husband. You know,
- 42:10Speaker 1: you do that when you're thirty, in your thirties, but
- 42:14Speaker 1: if you want to, you don't have to, Okay, But
- 42:17Speaker 1: your twenties are for that self exploration. And I think
- 42:21Speaker 1: the shift is just women realizing, oh I don't have
- 42:26Speaker 1: to do what society has told me that I have
- 42:28Speaker 1: to do. I'm starting to make my own decisions and
- 42:30Speaker 1: that that shift in age just kind of shows that.
- 42:33Speaker 1: And I get excited when I see stats like that.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I thought it was a great thing
- 42:37Speaker 2: because it's also like it is, it is a reflection
- 42:40Speaker 2: of women being able to have the power to create
- 42:43Speaker 2: their own lives, to start their careers the way that
- 42:45Speaker 2: they want to, to select the men that they really
- 42:48Speaker 2: want in their lives as supposed to you know, having
- 42:50Speaker 2: to be with a man for financial reasons or because
- 42:53Speaker 2: this is what you know you're supposed to be doing.
- 42:56Speaker 2: And I know marriage is a big part of that
- 42:58Speaker 2: conversation as well, because there is a shift, you know,
- 43:03Speaker 2: the loneliness apidemic. Oh lord, but there is a shift
- 43:06Speaker 2: with women stay lonely. I mean, you don't have to
- 43:11Speaker 2: be lonely, but you know use that you don't have
- 43:14Speaker 2: to be I mean, no, they don't have to be lonely.
- 43:16Speaker 2: They just lonely because they're lames. And men get mad
- 43:20Speaker 2: at me when I say that, but I'm like, I
- 43:21Speaker 2: don't advocate for lames. I just don't advocate for them. Like,
- 43:25Speaker 2: get out of your house, yeah, walk down the street,
- 43:28Speaker 2: speak to human beings, join a book club, go read
- 43:31Speaker 2: a book, go to therapy, go to the gym, go
- 43:35Speaker 2: to a coffee shop and join join a social group,
- 43:39Speaker 2: go to church, do anything but sit in front of
- 43:43Speaker 2: your computer and talk about how much you hate women
- 43:45Speaker 2: and listen to podcasts about how you deserve to, you know,
- 43:49Speaker 2: fuck the porn star of your dreams. We don't care
- 43:51Speaker 2: that you're alive. And I'm not about to do it.
- 43:54Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. I think men are amazing.
- 43:57Speaker 2: I think they're intelligent and beautiful creatures. And there is
- 44:00Speaker 2: a certain group. There's a small group of that large group.
- 44:03Speaker 2: There's a small group of that, and there's a very
- 44:06Speaker 2: large group of men that go unchecks and they're they're
- 44:09Speaker 2: they're terrible for society.
- 44:10Speaker 3: And and that is why women are are.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Choosing to not get married. Yeah, they're choosing to have
- 44:18Speaker 2: partners later in life. They're choosing to have children later
- 44:21Speaker 2: in life because women have the ability to.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Choose, yeah, or choosing not to have any more kids
- 44:28Speaker 1: like me, won't do won't do it?
- 44:30Speaker 3: You know, Would you get married again?
- 44:35Speaker 1: Maybe? I don't really know why I would need to,
- 44:39Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'd much rather get a
- 44:42Speaker 1: duplex and you live on one side and I live
- 44:45Speaker 1: on the other side, and then we come over and
- 44:48Speaker 1: maybe there's a door or maybe not between the two. Yeah,
- 44:53Speaker 1: connecting hotel room.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Do you not like sleeping with your partner.
- 44:57Speaker 1: I do, but you know what, I have a child.
- 45:00Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I never want my child
- 45:02Speaker 1: to live with me and feel like they just can't
- 45:05Speaker 1: come in my room. So maybe we have two separate
- 45:08Speaker 1: bedrooms or something. But you know, like my dad was
- 45:11Speaker 1: a stepdad, and I feel like I never felt like
- 45:14Speaker 1: my siblings felt like that. But I'm not my siblings.
- 45:16Speaker 1: So I just never want my kid to not be
- 45:18Speaker 1: able to walk into their mom's room freely as if
- 45:22Speaker 1: it's their room. I don't know, I just have this
- 45:24Speaker 1: weird thing about that. But I do love to sleep
- 45:27Speaker 1: with my partner. I do love to cuddle. Do I
- 45:28Speaker 1: need to do it every night?
- 45:30Speaker 2: No?
- 45:31Speaker 3: We disagree.
- 45:32Speaker 1: You want to sleep every night?
- 45:34Speaker 2: Well no, I don't need to with you every night.
- 45:38Speaker 2: I haven't lived with a man in a very long time.
- 45:42Speaker 2: What's going on with this thing?
- 45:45Speaker 3: This is like a little guy. I don't stay on
- 45:50Speaker 3: off No, so baggy baggy. So I just like it's
- 45:59Speaker 3: like in my brain, now, what was I talking about?
- 46:02Speaker 1: You want to sleep on somebody?
- 46:04Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 46:04Speaker 3: The micro penis distracted me. No, I'm a huge cuddler, Yeah,
- 46:09Speaker 3: so am I like all night? All night? Okay. That's
- 46:14Speaker 3: that's that's where we re aligned. Yeah, yeah, I am.
- 46:17Speaker 2: I mean I need to at the very least have
- 46:19Speaker 2: to be like touching, like a foot touch or something,
- 46:21Speaker 2: because otherwise I just don't.
- 46:23Speaker 3: I don't. You're just taking up space in my bed
- 46:25Speaker 3: and like, I don't like that. What's okay?
- 46:29Speaker 2: So this is a question I've been asked a couple
- 46:32Speaker 2: of times. It's never received well because people don't like
- 46:36Speaker 2: when women call themselves pretty. But do you find that
- 46:41Speaker 2: being I mean, you are a beautiful woman.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Do you find that it is I want to say
- 46:48Speaker 3: a challenge. Does it make things different for you in comedy? Yeah?
- 46:56Speaker 1: I think it does. I don't you know. I don't
- 46:58Speaker 1: know exactly how people will perceive me, but when I
- 47:01Speaker 1: get on stage, I think you either feel like, ooh,
- 47:05Speaker 1: she's beautiful, like let me pay attention, or ooh she's beautiful,
- 47:10Speaker 1: like how can she be funny? I used to immediately
- 47:15Speaker 1: tell a joke about myself about me being having like
- 47:18Speaker 1: a big forehead or like no ass or something like
- 47:21Speaker 1: that to let people know, Oh, I'm on your side.
- 47:23Speaker 1: I'm on your side, you know, like, please look at look,
- 47:26Speaker 1: I don't have any ass. Look like I'm flat, you know,
- 47:30Speaker 1: like live at me, no ass look at her. She's
- 47:33Speaker 1: skiddy to get people on my.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Side, you know.
- 47:37Speaker 1: But yes, but I think now I don't do do
- 47:43Speaker 1: that anymore. And I think my talent wants just give
- 47:46Speaker 1: me a second. And people do see my talent. But
- 47:49Speaker 1: I think it is more difficult because when I child,
- 47:51Speaker 1: when I walk into a comedy club and before I
- 47:53Speaker 1: get on stage, the other comics are like, you're a comedian.
- 47:57Speaker 1: You're a comedian.
- 47:59Speaker 3: You're a comedian? Yeah?
- 48:01Speaker 1: Why are you asking me two or three times?
- 48:03Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes?
- 48:04Speaker 2: Oh?
- 48:04Speaker 1: Are you as funny as you are beautiful? More funny
- 48:07Speaker 1: than I am beautiful? Can you imagine that? I told
- 48:11Speaker 1: a man that last week, you know, and girl the misogyny.
- 48:15Speaker 1: I got on stage. First of all, I didn't even
- 48:17Speaker 1: know who these men were. They introduced themselves to me before,
- 48:20Speaker 1: like as soon as I walked in, God damn, I say,
- 48:22Speaker 1: I know, right, And so he was like, what's your name?
- 48:26Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a comedian. Are you going up tonight?
- 48:29Speaker 1: I said yes, I am, and then I went up
- 48:33Speaker 1: ate the girls up per usual. I get on stage
- 48:36Speaker 1: and he's like, comes up to me, you just booked
- 48:39Speaker 1: yourself a comedy show? Did I first of all, I
- 48:44Speaker 1: don't know you from a can of coke, honey, Like
- 48:47Speaker 1: I don't know you, you know, and then to come
- 48:49Speaker 1: up to me and just tell me like, oh, you
- 48:51Speaker 1: know what.
- 48:53Speaker 3: I just booked you.
- 48:55Speaker 1: It turns out I wasn't even available on the date, honey,
- 48:57Speaker 1: I'll be in New York. So like the audacity, you know.
- 49:01Speaker 1: So it's just kind of like would you do that?
- 49:02Speaker 1: Would you have done that to a man? Like like
- 49:06Speaker 1: who are you talking to? So it's just like things
- 49:08Speaker 1: like that that I have to go through and I'm
- 49:10Speaker 1: just like, okay, but I can't be a bitch, you know.
- 49:13Speaker 1: I try to keep it cute. But if i'm if
- 49:15Speaker 1: I'm say what I'm thinking, then oh she's a bit,
- 49:18Speaker 1: she's cocky, she's oh, like I just be I just
- 49:22Speaker 1: be quiet, and I just be like mmm, So I know, I.
- 49:26Speaker 3: Mean, I I relate to everything that you're saying. Of course.
- 49:30Speaker 2: I mean I've been asked that question. It's like the
- 49:32Speaker 2: pretty privileged conversation and it's always weird to me. So
- 49:37Speaker 2: it's like, okay, so should I call myself ugly?
- 49:41Speaker 3: Are we gonna do that? Bit?
- 49:42Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 49:43Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 49:43Speaker 3: I'm not so then like that's being disingenuous.
- 49:47Speaker 1: I don't know if you did, people would hate you
- 49:49Speaker 1: for that.
- 49:50Speaker 3: Oh no, no, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure,
- 49:52Speaker 3: for sure.
- 49:52Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than a beautiful woman who is who
- 49:54Speaker 2: is talking to everyone like she's like everyone else like bitch, please, Okay,
- 50:00Speaker 2: you don't have to do this bit. You just can
- 50:02Speaker 2: just be here and be beautiful. We don't need to
- 50:04Speaker 2: hear all about how you're having about skin day, Like
- 50:06Speaker 2: your skin as perfect, we're looking at it. So I
- 50:09Speaker 2: don't I don't like to do that. I don't like
- 50:11Speaker 2: to do self deprecating at all. But there is a
- 50:14Speaker 2: you know, there's a dark side to it as well,
- 50:17Speaker 2: like everything has things to it. And it's like it's
- 50:20Speaker 2: just a very testy conversation because it just comes across
- 50:23Speaker 2: as arrogant and it's like, this is my experience, So
- 50:27Speaker 2: how are you gonna tell me the experiences that I've
- 50:30Speaker 2: had moving through the world.
- 50:31Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't.
- 50:32Speaker 2: You either don't know because you're not, which is fine.
- 50:35Speaker 2: It's not like better or worse, that's not what we're
- 50:38Speaker 2: talking about. But you walk into a room and you
- 50:42Speaker 2: have to prove how serious you are because God made
- 50:45Speaker 2: your face perfect.
- 50:47Speaker 1: Well you know, yeah, perfect is a is a little
- 50:52Speaker 1: bit of a strait. But you know, yeah, people do.
- 50:56Speaker 1: I do have to, you know, I struggle for people
- 51:01Speaker 1: to take me seriously. But I don't know, I feel
- 51:03Speaker 1: like I'm such a unique person because I don't I
- 51:07Speaker 1: didn't even realize I was pretty till I was like
- 51:08Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen, so that I'm like, that's why I'm funny, you.
- 51:12Speaker 3: Know, like I have a personality.
- 51:14Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I didn't know I was pretty until
- 51:16Speaker 1: I got a job at the mall, you know, so
- 51:20Speaker 1: that's interesting. But I mean the the privilege of it too,
- 51:24Speaker 1: is like I had one of my friends tell me
- 51:27Speaker 1: the other day, like, when you walk out of the room,
- 51:29Speaker 1: like you're the people, You're the person people are talking
- 51:31Speaker 1: about and it's because of your beauty and your talent.
- 51:33Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, yes, I love that, you know,
- 51:36Speaker 1: so I'm thankful for that. But yeah, the things I
- 51:40Speaker 1: have to go through, I don't. Sometimes I'm like, is
- 51:42Speaker 1: it because I'm pretty or is it because I'm a woman?
- 51:44Speaker 3: Is it both? I mean, yeah, it can be both,
- 51:46Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's for sure. I mean women.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Obviously, any woman who is a comic is probably going
- 51:52Speaker 2: to say that they've gone through Oh yeah, same thing,
- 51:54Speaker 2: that experience of not being taken seriously. Yeah, but there
- 51:58Speaker 2: is a there's an added elements to it when you
- 52:01Speaker 2: are immediately sexualized. Yes, And it's not just that you're
- 52:05Speaker 2: a woman in the space and they don't want women
- 52:06Speaker 2: in the space.
- 52:07Speaker 3: It's also that you are perceived to.
- 52:09Speaker 2: Be in the space because you want attention, right, or
- 52:12Speaker 2: you're you're actually not really that funny, You're just like
- 52:15Speaker 2: trying something new, or like people would say always like
- 52:19Speaker 2: women and sports just like want to be on television,
- 52:21Speaker 2: Like there's so many other television jobs. Why wouldn't they
- 52:25Speaker 2: just do that, you know, So the things that they
- 52:27Speaker 2: say don't even make sense. But it's also like you
- 52:30Speaker 2: walking in and someone immediately talking about how you.
- 52:33Speaker 1: Look, Yeah, exactly happens all the time, right, and then
- 52:37Speaker 1: like you know that to me, that is a dig
- 52:41Speaker 1: like I and there's sometimes people comment they're like, oh,
- 52:43Speaker 1: well she's beautiful, look at but she's not funny blocked
- 52:47Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if you just like me,
- 52:49Speaker 1: because the way I just get out of here, you know,
- 52:51Speaker 1: because that hurts my feelings because.
- 52:53Speaker 3: This is my art. You know, well what it does
- 52:57Speaker 3: is it devalues.
- 53:00Speaker 1: Lely devalues me and my artistic abilities, my intelligence, even
- 53:03Speaker 1: my creativity, you know, my talents. It's like you're bringing
- 53:07Speaker 1: me back down to just the way I look when
- 53:09Speaker 1: I've expressed my talents here. And that's so it is dehumanizing,
- 53:13Speaker 1: you know, yeah, so yeah, but you know I look
- 53:18Speaker 1: real good. So what I don't even mean that.
- 53:21Speaker 3: You know, you'll take it. You'll take you'll take the problems.
- 53:25Speaker 2: But there there, it is a it is an experience
- 53:27Speaker 2: that can be very, very dehumanizing at certain times.
- 53:31Speaker 1: You know what joy I'm starting to feel, because I'll
- 53:33Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm very this is the most
- 53:35Speaker 1: confident I've ever felt. I feel good about the way
- 53:38Speaker 1: I look. I feel good about the way my body looks.
- 53:41Speaker 1: I feel free. I'm out, you know, living my best life.
- 53:45Speaker 1: And I do feel like people I've ever received some
- 53:49Speaker 1: positive feedback lately. But I'm like, am I doing? Am
- 53:51Speaker 1: I turning up too much? For y'all? Am I doing
- 53:53Speaker 1: too much? Like I ain't gotta opposset everything? But the
- 53:56Speaker 1: girls have been dming me do more. We love to
- 53:59Speaker 1: see it. We love to see you a mom do this.
- 54:00Speaker 1: We love to see you look so happy. Keep doing
- 54:04Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm like, okay, but I do feel
- 54:07Speaker 1: like I'm kind of doing a lot. I'm about to
- 54:08Speaker 1: do a little bit more. I don't want you to
- 54:10Speaker 1: get uncomfortable.
- 54:11Speaker 3: No, you No, you should do you should. You should
- 54:13Speaker 3: be authentic to what feels right.
- 54:15Speaker 2: And I think especially being a front facing person or
- 54:17Speaker 2: like someone that makes content being doing something that's authentic.
- 54:22Speaker 2: When for me, my policy is like if I have
- 54:24Speaker 2: to think about it too much, I just don't do it. Yeah,
- 54:27Speaker 2: because there's something in my gut that's saying like this
- 54:29Speaker 2: is not it, or this is not authentic, or this
- 54:32Speaker 2: is going too far whatever that means for me. But yeah,
- 54:35Speaker 2: I mean I hear that from women all the time
- 54:37Speaker 2: that it's like it's it is refreshing to see someone
- 54:43Speaker 2: really step into their power. Yeah, And you're going through
- 54:47Speaker 2: phases of your life publicly, like you're going through getting divorced,
- 54:51Speaker 2: you're going through being a mother, like you're going through
- 54:55Speaker 2: career changes and challenges, and you're not doing all of
- 54:57Speaker 2: that in private.
- 54:59Speaker 3: You're doing that public and so that is an exchange
- 55:02Speaker 3: of being, you know, in front of the camera or
- 55:05Speaker 3: being on stage, like you have to bear a little
- 55:08Speaker 3: bit of yourself. Yeah, for sure.
- 55:10Speaker 2: And sometimes you're gonna stumble, you know, like as you do,
- 55:13Speaker 2: as we all do in life. And you know, luckily
- 55:17Speaker 2: for you, you're hilarious, so you can build it into
- 55:19Speaker 2: your your content, make money off of it, just like
- 55:23Speaker 2: your bathwater.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Yes, and one day I'll write a book.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you will. Of course will all right,
- 55:29Speaker 2: but before we get you out of here, we're going
- 55:31Speaker 2: to do some rapid fire. Do you have a moment
- 55:34Speaker 2: on stage or on air that you wish you could
- 55:36Speaker 2: take back?
- 55:40Speaker 1: Hmmm, hell no, I say what I say.
- 55:46Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to think too.
- 55:50Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been a moment where I was like
- 55:52Speaker 2: I said something inaccurate or something like that, but like
- 55:57Speaker 2: that happens.
- 55:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
- 55:58Speaker 2: I can't think of anything that I've said. I said
- 56:01Speaker 2: what I said, and if it was like offense, actually
- 56:04Speaker 2: that's not true. I'm gonna take it back. It came
- 56:06Speaker 2: to me getting older, my brain's moving slower.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Uh.
- 56:11Speaker 3: We were we were wrong about manti Ao. We were wrong. Yeah,
- 56:16Speaker 3: we were wrong about Manti Ao. I we were wrong.
- 56:19Speaker 3: There's just no way around that.
- 56:21Speaker 1: Favorite guilty pleasure television show. I feel like it's so
- 56:26Speaker 1: typical for me. Oh you know what, I married at
- 56:28Speaker 1: first sight?
- 56:29Speaker 3: Oh okay, I don't. I don't watch that one. I
- 56:32Speaker 3: like that one. I mean, I don't even know if
- 56:35Speaker 3: this is guilty pleasure.
- 56:36Speaker 2: But like I loved Flavor of Love and Rock of Love,
- 56:42Speaker 2: and like Flavor of Love three and Rock of Love
- 56:45Speaker 2: four and all like they were in appointment television films.
- 56:50Speaker 2: I love New York, Bring Incredible Television, Bring it Back. Yeah,
- 56:55Speaker 2: that was when reality television was like absolutely piquked. Yes,
- 56:59Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I don't believe people were acting
- 57:02Speaker 2: this way.
- 57:03Speaker 3: I mean, oh I love that.
- 57:05Speaker 1: I didn't know I could go back that far.
- 57:07Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, I mean those are those are standards.
- 57:11Speaker 2: Favorite beauty trick or products you feel like you do
- 57:14Speaker 2: you share these with the doors?
- 57:15Speaker 1: Yeah right now, oh favorite beauty trick. Well, I think
- 57:25Speaker 1: I people know me right now. I'm sort of phasing
- 57:27Speaker 1: into I'm a lip gloss girl. I love lip gloss,
- 57:30Speaker 1: and you have to put it like on top of
- 57:32Speaker 1: your lip. Your lips are good, you have to put
- 57:34Speaker 1: it on top of your lip like and push it
- 57:38Speaker 1: up over the lip line.
- 57:39Speaker 3: It doesn't go in the middle.
- 57:41Speaker 1: It does, but you want to put on first of all,
- 57:43Speaker 1: you put it on like a whore. Have you ever
- 57:44Speaker 1: heard me say that. I see you put it on
- 57:47Speaker 1: like you got a job to do, a girl.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
- 57:50Speaker 1: And then you have so much on you can push
- 57:52Speaker 1: the product up up and over the top of your
- 57:55Speaker 1: lip because you want the top to shine. So when
- 57:59Speaker 1: you kind of like it like it's like a pow,
- 58:00Speaker 1: it's just so. It's so cute, and all the girls
- 58:03Speaker 1: are DM and me saying, I put it on like
- 58:05Speaker 1: a whore and I put it on top.
- 58:06Speaker 3: It's so cute. Do you have a favorite lip glass?
- 58:09Speaker 1: Yes, the Amicola lip gloss is really really good. But
- 58:12Speaker 1: they're they're going out of business.
- 58:13Speaker 3: Oh no, I know. I hate when that happens.
- 58:16Speaker 1: Uh.
- 58:16Speaker 2: My favorite beauty strick or products right now, I would
- 58:19Speaker 2: say the product is it's s I V M. It's
- 58:23Speaker 2: I have no idea what the product is, but my
- 58:27Speaker 2: amazing esthetician recommended for me and it is so good.
- 58:31Speaker 3: It like rebuilds the.
- 58:34Speaker 2: What's it called of your face or no, not collagen,
- 58:37Speaker 2: but like your barrier okay, and it's so good.
- 58:40Speaker 3: I use it every day. What is it moisturizer or
- 58:43Speaker 3: it's like a I don't know, it's like a thing.
- 58:46Speaker 2: It's like a serum almost really yeah, but it's really expensive,
- 58:51Speaker 2: well not really that expensive, but like it's kind of
- 58:53Speaker 2: expensive for one product.
- 58:54Speaker 3: But it's so good.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Okay, Now I need to know what and what step
- 58:57Speaker 1: of the routine do you use it in? Because I
- 58:59Speaker 1: love skincare.
- 59:00Speaker 3: I will send it to you. I love this product.
- 59:03Speaker 2: And she actually doesn't recommend every product to every person,
- 59:05Speaker 2: actually makes a specific thing, but this is one of
- 59:07Speaker 2: the ones that she recommends everybody.
- 59:08Speaker 3: Okay, it is the third fourth step.
- 59:13Speaker 2: So through spray, and then I had like these two
- 59:15Speaker 2: other things which I can remember, and the other serums,
- 59:18Speaker 2: and then it's it's.
- 59:19Speaker 3: The fourth thing. Okay. Interesting and then she faced like
- 59:21Speaker 3: some shiny and like bouncy in the morning. I love it.
- 59:26Speaker 3: Craziest TikTok rabbit hole you've ever gone down?
- 59:31Speaker 1: I kind of did some satire to this, and this
- 59:33Speaker 1: is recent. It's the lady who thinks her psychiatrist was
- 59:37Speaker 1: in love with her? Ever say that I saw?
- 59:39Speaker 3: I mean, I did get down the rabbit hole but
- 59:40Speaker 3: like I saw that. What happened with that?
- 59:42Speaker 1: She had a psychiatrist who saw her a very like
- 59:46Speaker 1: not that all, not that much time because you know psychiatrists,
- 59:49Speaker 1: they only prescribe medication, so you don't spend time. It's
- 59:51Speaker 1: not your therapist.
- 59:52Speaker 3: No, I see my psychiatrist every six months.
- 59:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and so she's like, oh, yeah, he was in
- 59:56Speaker 1: love with me, kind of obsessed with me, and then
- 59:59Speaker 1: he created bounce Like she was talking about the things
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: that he told her to create boundaries, and she's like, yeah,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: like he actually loves these glasses that I'm wearing because
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: he told me he loved these glasses. So I'm kind
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: of wearing these hoping that he sees this. And everybody's like, girl,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: the psychiatrist is not.
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: In love with you. Girls TikTok was telling her that
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: the psychiatrist was not in love with her.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: Everybody was telling her on TikTok that they weren't, and
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: she's made a seventeen part series about it.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Oh forbid, don't ever let me det down.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Like you're going to see it tonight. So you're going
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: to see it tonight.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: I really loved redheads are black.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Oh, redheads are black they're not.
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: Well, someone ruined it, right what they said. I heard that.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: That's what happened. I mean the thing that they always say.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: But oh but for like a good solid three days,
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: it was great content. Yeah, if you could have any superpower,
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: what would it be? Any superpower? I just want to
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: be rich, Write me a check.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Everything.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: Who needs a superpower when you're rich?
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: They don't never, they don't never think about this. They're like, honey,
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: I have a helicopter lens on my I don't need
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: a superpower. I am superman exactly. That's a great that's
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: actually the only answer. But I would say a fly.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: I mean, if I could fly my my eye, would
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: IY be rich? I'd be so convenient.
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: Like imagine if you could be like all right, like
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: done with this interview. I'm gonna go to New York.
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: I'll be there in two minutes because I can fly.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: I just feel like if I could fly, people just
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: gonna be pulling me in all different like that just
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: requires me to work more. You just said a work scenario.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: Oh no, you gotta you know, I could just like
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: fly see my you know what I mean, see my
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: work in New York.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Not that work.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: Oh Okay, work, uh that kind of work and then
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: like just be back, you know what I mean.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: But then when you get there, you all disheveled because
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: you've been in the air for Yeah.
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: I lett me like, fix my hair a little bit.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get like a bonnet, you know, a flying bonnet.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta have to help me. Yeah for the now.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: Bugs, I know, I gotta save the world and shit,
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: but flying would be cool though.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: This was so great. Thank you so much for coming down.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: Make sure that you follow Jasmine and on Instagram Jazmine
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: JW and her podcast Jazz at the Dark on her Patreon,
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: The Secret Society, and you can see her comedy show
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: again in Philadelphia at the Philadelphia City Winery on September
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: twenty fifth.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: And yeah, let us know when you have a show
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: because I'm coming out girl. Yeah.
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: Check my page for other dates too, you never know.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: I'm adding cities all the time.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: Yes, make sure you go and find great great follow
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming Oh, thank you for having me.
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: Loved hanging with Jazz.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Make sure you follow her on social media and check
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: out her shows when she travels around the country. She
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: is amazing and I really appreciate her coming by to
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: hang with us on Too Personal. All right, now it's
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: time for Never Too Personal. If you want to be
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: a part of the show, email us Too Personal Podcasts
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: at gmail dot com, or you can send us a
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: DM on Instagram at two Personal show. This one is
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: I just turned thirty and I feel stuck at a
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: job I don't love. I want to make a career change,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: but I'm scared of starting over. How do you know
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: when it's the right time to take that leap? So
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: I don't like the advice of just quitting your job.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: I think it's much easier to find a new job
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: when you already have a job. The anxiety and stress
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: of worrying about being employed while also trying to find
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: something that you really enjoy, for me, doesn't really create
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: a good mixture of success. So I always recommend that
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: you start looking while you are still employed.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: But I also think that you need to make a plan.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: It's really fun the idea of walking in.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: And quitting your job that you hate and starting a
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: new life, but it's also wildly unrealistic. Make a plan,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: a plan for long term success in your career change.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Make sure that you have the skills and the relationships
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: to move into a new career space. But if it's
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: something that you really want to do and you're truly unhappy,
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: there's no time like the present.
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: No one's going to do it for you.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: Your current situation is not going to magically transform into
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: something that you truly love if it's something that you're
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: not passionate about. And the real ty is that when
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: you work in a space that you're passionate about, more
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: things come to you because you're excited about it.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: You put an extra work in a way that doesn't
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: feel like work. It feels like fun.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: You're making relationships in the industry. You're putting out good
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: energy and good work. People like working with you, they
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: want to hire you again, or they want to advance
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: you in the space that you're in. So making a
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: career change into something that you're really passionate about is,
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best way to actually be successful
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: because you're going to be pouring the right energy into
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: the work that you do. But always make a plan.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: Don't just quit your job and up and try and
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: get into a new industry. Make a real plan to
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: make the change. Make sure that you have the money
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: that you need to do that. Make sure that you
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: have the skills and relationships you need to do that,
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: but then do it. Don't get paralyzed by the idea
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: that you're too old or that you know aren't going
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: to be able to start over and have real success
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: because you've been working in a different industry. People make
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: changes all the time and have so much success and
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: their lives are better and fuller because of it. So
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: days doesn't matter how much time you put in a
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: different industry doesn't matter.
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: But what does matter is that you have a.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Real plan that can be executed and that you are
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: able to actually get work and have success in the
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: industry that you want to move to. But I always say,
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: go for it, just be practical about it. That's a
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: great question. Thanks for sending it in. If you want
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