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SUMMING IT UP: OPRAH'S MENOPAUSE SPECIAL · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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you to let it go and don't look back with nationally acclaimed
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professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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Welcome everyone to Uncluttered and Unfiltered.
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We're the podcast for women over 50 and we have been waiting for
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this episode while it started with us deciding we wanted to
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watch Oprah's special on menopause where she would be
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hosting guests like the amazing doctor Mary Claire Haver, who we
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love following on social media. But she also had Halle Berry and
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Naomi Watts and lots of little clips from Lee and.
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Morgan, she's so funny. Hilarious.
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She's so funny, I love. Her and we're going to talk
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about about that. But you can't talk about Oprah
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without talking about her bestie, Miss Gayle King, who
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right now is probably among the least loved women on social
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media out there. Because she took a little trip
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to space, the edge of space, the edge of space with Katy Perry
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and friends, and did not get the response I think she'd hoped
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for. I don't know what she was hoping
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for though. I just think, I think read the
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room is is just something that they're not capable of.
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So if you're not up to speed, this is the Amazon ship, the
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Blue Origin, and they take people up.
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You should probably seen William Shatner go up and some other
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celebrities. And they go up and they are out
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there for like like 11 minutes or so, and they're so high that
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they can actually see the Earth like it's a little globe.
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And then they come back down. And all of that is well and
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fine. And I've seen a lot of hot takes
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on this. If you say what it is, which is
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an adventure, it is a ride. That is a privileged thing you
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can do. Right.
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And not making a big spectacle out.
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Of it but but instead what these women did and one of them was
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actually you know in the STEM line of background so not all of
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them were out there for the celebrity status of it.
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But but really the whole thing about this is meant to inspire
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this is meant to do all these things.
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It just fell flat because there are all of these women whose
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jobs are being cut right now at NASA and, you know, in the space
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program and, you know. And they're calling themselves.
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Astronauts, and they're calling themselves astronauts.
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So there's a lot of a lot of people who are not enjoying
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that. The memes are crazy because GAIL
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looked like she was going to vom at the minute.
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I live next to an original astronaut.
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It was Frank Borman. He would be rolling in his grave
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right now. The amount of training those
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astronaut the back in the day. I'm talking like the.
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Sure, of course, like Major Tony Nelson by My Dream of Jeannie.
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Major Tony Nelson, yes. I just can't believe those women
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would call themselves. Astronauts.
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Ridiculous. I mean, that's not an astron.
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And Katy Perry kissing the ground after you had all of
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those people that were stuck up there in space for however long
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and then she's up there for the 11 minute little ride and she's
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kissing the ground and singing. It's a wonderful I.
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Mean, I mean just the whole thing I was thinking you have
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the other astronauts got stuck up there and I, you know, I'm
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fascinated by the Gray hair thing.
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Yes. I wanted like, I wanted to see,
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does that mean like their roots will show?
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Like, you know, they can't get Botox or whatever, they're doing
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makeup if they got stuck up there.
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Right. Exactly.
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Which is what happened in, you know, those other.
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Astronauts. Exactly.
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Legit astronauts. Yeah, legit.
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So that's the whole Gayle King thing.
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That was just. A It'll be interesting to see
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how that plays out. Yeah, and people were very mad
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because then she said. I'm very disappointed in the way
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people are responding to this. Have you been to space?
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Well, no, ma'am, I have. I have never even been to
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Europe. So yeah, I mean, that was silly
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because I mean. Let's, I mean, I mean, that's
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crazy. Yeah, and their outfits.
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I'm sorry, I have to comment on the outfits.
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It looked like something out of a movie, you know, like a a
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Power Ranger or something like, you know what I mean?
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Like superheroes. It was silly The.
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Whole thing was for show. I mean there was a whole thing
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if have you watched, have you watched the videos where they
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the door opens and they shut it really fast so they can come
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with a crowbar and open it? Come with it.
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Yeah. Crazy.
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But but ultimately the only reason we got on GAIL is because
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she does hang with Oprah and Oprah decided to jump on the
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bandwagon that is menopause and do a special.
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And we say that like we didn't do the same thing.
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But the difference here is, you know, this is an ongoing
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conversation. She didn't really unearth a lot,
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not as much as that one and PBS documentary We.
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Talked about. Yeah, that was really.
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Good. But it was nice to hear women
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discuss some of the symptoms that they've endured and even
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some of the reactions from their physicians.
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And I want to save the best for last, which in my mind, and I
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think yours too, is Naomi Watts, the actress.
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But Halle Berry kicked things off.
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And she talked about how she had so much pain after sex that she
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was told by her doctor that she had herpes.
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Went home, accused her partner of having her bees and it wasn't
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herpes. And whether or not I believe any
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of that story is kind of irrelevant.
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Right. I, you know, I think I believe
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her story. I just feel like, I mean, yeah.
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I mean, but it just goes to show you that not the physician
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wasn't, she was much younger at the time and the physician
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wasn't thinking in terms of perimenopause.
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And that was the point of her story.
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I just my point. What I didn't believe is I think
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there was a little exaggeration. I don't think she went around
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pointing fingers at anyone saying you gave me her place.
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I'd like to think that it was nipped in the bud before it got
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to that point. But regardless.
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So that was her her story. Leanne Morgan.
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Hilarious talking about testosterone.
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Oh, my God, She was so funny. Also, I have to admit, I liked
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Oprah being back. Like, you know, when you used to
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watch your shows every afternoon before, it kind of gave you that
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vibe again with the audience and the way she was talking.
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It's like, God, that's the Oprah I miss.
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You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Instead of one-on-one with a big celebrity, she's got she's got
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the people, and then she's going to the audience for a question
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and she's asking the whole room. It was very reminiscent of you
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got a car, you got a car. I thought so too.
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That part I absolutely did like, and I'm going to quickly say
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when you texted me and said you listen to it, Aunt threw Hulu in
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your car and I said you did what?
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And you said I listened to the whole thing and I said, how do
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you do? And so Christine says, yes, I'm
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listening, but I'm more excited that I'm actually listening to
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Hulu in my car than I am about the actual.
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Content of this show, it's true. I was like, fascinated by that
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anyway. Anyway, so so comedian Leanne
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Morgan had a whole thing where she was talking about
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testosterone pellets to increase your sex drive.
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And they and doctor Mary Claire was talking about this kind of
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thing and she was saying that this is good.
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It's not because it's not going to make you want to do it.
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It's if you want to want to do it.
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In other words, she was saying if you want to want to have more
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sex, then you can take these. It's not that it's everyone
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needs to take these. It's just if you want to.
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And so there was a lot of that that conversation about
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different things in the HRT or hormone replacement therapy
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field that I know. The Shriver with the connection
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to the brain, yes. I was so relieved at that part
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because, you know, she's saying you get brain fog, you forget
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things. And I'm like, thank God, because
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I'm really like thinking, uh oh. Yes, she said that.
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So she, Maria Shriver is, is at the head of all of this studying
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that's going on into Alzheimer's, Women's Health,
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from the Women's Health perspective of Alzheimer's,
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osteoporosis and all of these things, brain and body
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connection. And one of the things that she
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says is that a lot of women were not studied when they were
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making these initial research launches into these different
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conditions and diseases. So it's time now to really take
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into account women and how many women suffer from these diseases
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as opposed to men and how it's so related back to our hormones.
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Well, and did you hear when she's I can't remember who said
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it, but about the personal high percentage of women who get
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divorces and perimenopause and that was the most best part
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favorite. She was saying 75% of women
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women who have been divorced attribute it to perimenopause or
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menopause. And I know, and I don't know if
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you know, but I know a lot of people who regret some of their
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divorces that they had during that time because now they're at
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a different phase of life, right?
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And they're in, they're through menopause.
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And that's why I don't think they give enough resources or
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research or anything or have enough doctors that say don't do
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anything drastic during this time.
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This will pass once we can, you know, once you hit a certain age
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and you're through it. Because I totally, even now I
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look back, I mean, when I was going through perimenopause and
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you can't do hormones, you can't do anything because you know,
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you're still getting a period. It was really harder to me,
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ladies, than menopause. Like actually being in it.
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In my opinion, that's not uncommon.
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I also think very much like when someone breaks up with someone
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and then you say, well, don't go and give yourself bangs, right?
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It's like if you're going through perimenopause, don't go
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and get a divorce until you've at least try to smooth out your
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hormones. I mean, unless there's obvious,
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right, 'cause, right? But you know, the just the whole
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special. I did love the comments about
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throwing a ladder. I think this was Naomi Watson.
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No, it was about the party. Throwing the ladder down to the
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younger. Generation.
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No, not. That, yes, throwing ladders down
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to the younger generation, that was Naomi Watts, meaning women
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talking about it now with their daughters, with the younger
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generation. So these ladies know what's
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coming, so they don't go out and cut their bangs.
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Or get a divorce IA 100%. I will definitely be talking to
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my daughters about it. Because I think from like 42 to
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50, it was a rough, a rough time.
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Nobody talked to me about. That and nobody talked to me
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about it. Even the doctor in it wasn't
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really helpful other to say we'll just wait until you're you
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know, you can actually go on HRT.
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He thinks he'll be better, but that was it.
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Like that's not helpful for seven years, correct of your
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life. You know what I mean?
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Yes. Exactly.
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I don't know, but what was the thing about the party I'm
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trying? To refer That was Halle Berry,
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who said your family should throw a a menopause party.
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For like a shower. Like a shower.
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And I was like, how many showers and parties do we have to do?
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Baby names and baby showers. We don't want to go to the
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party. We.
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Don't want to go? We've had this conversation
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before. We don't want to go to the after
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party. We don't want to go to the party
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party, right? So, so we don't want to even go
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to our own party, right? Especially our party that you're
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throwing us to welcome. In I say just go out with your
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girlfriends and have a good time.
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Exactly, I think I. Need a party for being in
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menopause. Exactly my.
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So then comes Naomi Watts, who started perimenopause early at
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36. Yeah.
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So she had no idea what was going on with her.
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She really struggled and eventually got in a relationship
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with actor, and she's married to him now.
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Billy Credit. Yeah, I love it.
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As she was getting older and he's a little older than her,
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but she started wearing the patch and she started talking
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about, I love this too, about the patch and how I can show it
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leaves the gummy square on me. And I have several of those
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gummy squares on me right now. So you'd have to get in there
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and you really have to scrub. To get those wipes I use I.
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Mean it's it's difficult so she's about to get intimate with
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Billy cut up and she realizes that this is about to happen.
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So she's wanting to go in the bathroom and scrub off some of
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that residue and remove her patch and everything her
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estrogen patch because she feels like that's going to be a total
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buzzkill, right? So she leaves and goes and comes
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back and he's like what's going on with you?
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What is happening right now? Do we need to stop what's
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happening? And she says, I want to take off
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this patch because it's just not sexy, right?
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And then he responds with close your ears, Director Ryan.
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He responds with, hey, look at this.
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My pubes are Gray. Which that's I.
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She said it was the sexiest thing he could have done because
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he made her feel amazing. He made her feel great, yeah.
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So I think she's done a lot for this movement really of
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reaching. She's written a book, she has a
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skin care line. She, I mean, she's really thrown
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herself into helping women who are going through perimenopause
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and menopause. I I with the Oprah special,
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though, because I'm through menopause.
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Like, you know, I didn't think they mentioned anything about
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that. And I have to tell you that is
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in itself in my opinion or she never, they never mentioned what
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if you can't do hormone replacement therapy?
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A lot of people can't. Or they can't or shouldn't and
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they didn't mention that either. Like no, there's no other
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options. Like they're almost saying,
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well, too bad for you. You know what I mean.
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So agree. Agree also, my husband has told
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me multiple times that except for our podcast, he thought
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menopause was like a month or two thing that you go through
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and then you're done. He had no idea that like for 10
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years after you're still, you know, waking up in the middle of
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the night sweating or you can lose your you could be short of
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patience and and he just had no idea.
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So even though there were some shortcomings with the show,
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because it's an hour show and you're trying to be
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entertaining, I still think if you don't have a partner that
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understands fully what this all entails, it might be something
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you want to have on it. Maybe you can't get him or her
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to sit down with you, but it might be something you want to
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have on in the background and let them hear it just because
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sometimes hearing it through other people's mouths and people
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realizing this is more significant than anybody's ever
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let on. Oh, I think I in my opinion,
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it's a mental health thing. It's a physical thing with the
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whole dryness everywhere, Dry eye, dry body.
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Dry everything. Everything.
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I think that people don't realize until they go through it
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what this entails. Even afterwards, like even when
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you're in your 60s, it doesn't just magically disappear.
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It does for some people, but not for everybody.
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And I just thought they just, I didn't really get anything new
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did. You.
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No, I didn't, but I think part of that is because we've been
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living in this subject matter now for a couple of years.
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I think for people who aren't, or maybe they're not going down
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the same rabbit hole as you and I do on Instagram and on TikTok.
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I mean, because of what we do and because of the research we
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do on our phones, you know, our algorithms are bringing us all
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of this information. That's true.
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And I do follow that doctor Mary Claire.
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And so I get all of this information on a regular basis.
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But I think for the average woman, you know, you're not
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steeped in this on a, on a day-to-day, which you shouldn't
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be. You shouldn't live your life
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just doing nothing but reading about being in menopause.
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But my goodness. There's a lot of information out
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there. This isn't going to be your only
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resource, but if it's your gateway, yeah, good.
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But I would like to say I, in my opinion, a female doctor, and
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I'm not bashing men doctors, but when you're dealing with a
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female problem or issue or a phase in your life, you need a
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female. I mean, I don't see men being
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able to remotely understand hot flashes.
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I mean, until you've had one, I don't think anyone understands.
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Until you wake up in the morning soaked in sweat or it's crazy.
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You'll be sitting there and then it's an internal yeah that just
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starts in the back of your neck, starts sweating, and you can't
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even explain this. Or even the agitation.
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The agitation over something so mild.
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Yes, that's what I think. The best thing you can do, guys,
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if you're listening, is just look at your woman in the eyes
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and just tell her what she needs to do is calm down.
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Try that, See how that goes. Oh my God, that might be stabbed
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in your sleep. You might, yeah, you might get
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stabbed in your sleep for that. But no, really, the most
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romantic thing I think anyone can do for their partner is to
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say, listen, I've been kind of seeing some of this information
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out there. I had no idea how bad it is.
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Tell me, how is it affecting you?
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Yeah, or I think. How can I help?
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Stay out of your way. Done.
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Yeah, I also think the women are like Naomi Watts was saying,
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you're embarrassed. Do you think that?
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Sure, if you're in menopause, it makes you an old lady because
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that's what our mother's generation acted like it was
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about. And so I think really you
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talking to your boyfriend, your husband about what's going on
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because they think you just don't want them.
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Right. But that's not true because I
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heard someone on TikTok say, what does it mean when you don't
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like men but you don't like women?
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And an older woman pipes in who's like 55, she goes
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menopause. So I mean, but men don't
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understand that and they think it's them and they take it
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personally. Oh yeah.
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But it's not them. I mean, sometimes I feel like if
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my husband were to say to me, to say to me, you know, who do you
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want for your holopass, I might be like nobody.
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It's like alone time. Right.
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Alone time. Leave me alone.
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I mean, are you kidding me? Yeah, I totally agree with that.
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Yeah. So I think.
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There is a short list, but that's.
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Well, I think, though, I think even when you are on hormone
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replacement therapy, it's not like, Oh my God, yeah, I'm 20
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again. It's people think that too.
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And that's a fallacy. I think it just helps with some
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of the symptoms, Yes, but it doesn't bring you back to being
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20-30. You know what I mean?
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No. Short of a time machine, there's
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really nothing. There is nothing.
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There is nothing really, the best thing you can do is just
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surround yourself by some like minded women.
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Have friends of all ages but make sure you do have that core
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group of people who know what you're going through.
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And if you don't have that, well, guess what you do now.
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So we would love to invite you to join us on our uncluttered
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and unfiltered Ladies only Facebook group.
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It grows every single day. And sometimes people just pop in
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there and post something very optimistic.
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Sometimes people will post a meme that's hilarious, and
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sometimes we just use it as a way to let you know that, hey,
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there's an episode coming up about this, this and that.
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We do have a great episode coming up with a doctor, Doctor
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Dawn Miles. She's a podiatrist, a woman over
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50, and she is going to talk to us about different shoes.
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And something that you knew that I didn't is that hormones can
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cause us to lose fat on the bottom of our feet.
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And so if you're walking around and your feet are hurting more
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than they ever have, it's real, it's science.
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And we're going to cover that with Doctor Don Miles in the
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near future. But in the meantime, I don't
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know how to really end this one. I guess if you have sticky gooey
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gum all over you from from your hormone replacement patch, get
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some alcohol wipes and then let it go.
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And don't look back.