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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Tuesday, 09/01/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Voice of Georgetown, Warren. Sharon of Newcastle, too. Great talk
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  Speaker 1: every step of your day. So much more than just
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  Speaker 1: the news. We're talking. You're listening to 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so you haven't been following that Clancy thing at all?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say I don't care because I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a tragedy, but the people that are calling
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  Speaker 3: and saying she should have been committed. Well, when you
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  Speaker 3: have the legal show on Thursday, ask Dave Beatrice how
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  Speaker 3: difficult it is to actually have somebody committed. Because you
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  Speaker 3: don't just call up the mental institution. They come by
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  Speaker 3: with a wagon and pick the person up and throw
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  Speaker 3: them involuntarily into a mental institution. It's very difficult to
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  Speaker 3: get somebody actually put in there. And all the people
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  Speaker 3: that think that these medical professionals are guilty of malpractice,
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  Speaker 3: believe me when I tell you, I mean, I fill
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  Speaker 3: a lot of prescriptions in the course of a week,
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  Speaker 3: and I've filled, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions,
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  Speaker 3: in my career. And I can tell you, there's a lot,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of crazy, you know, bat crap crazy people
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  Speaker 3: out there. And if you look at the incidence of this,
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  Speaker 3: how many women, there are millions and millions, tens of
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  Speaker 3: millions of mothers in this country. What's the incidence of
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  Speaker 3: a woman killing her children? It's almost unheard of. We
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  Speaker 3: sensationalize it. We hear of it. Often the news media
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  Speaker 3: gets on and trumpets it and parrots it, and we're
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  Speaker 3: made very well aware of it. But if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the incidence, it's minusculely low. It's probably less than
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  Speaker 3: one in a million. I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what the actual statistics are, but it's not common. We see,
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  Speaker 3: I think we're being made a lot more aware of
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  Speaker 3: it now, but it's not something that happens. So when
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  Speaker 3: I see this stuff, I think a lot of it's
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  Speaker 3: sensational journalism. They're looking for, you know, and it gets views.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the people that are following
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  Speaker 3: this thing, like, you know, it's something that personally affects them,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why the media does it. But in the
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  Speaker 3: grand scheme of things, it doesn't impact me on a
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  Speaker 3: daily basis. So I tend to just sort of tune
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  Speaker 3: it out as background noise, if that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, some people are saying, though, that she
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  Speaker 2: really tried reaching out for help and was on all
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  Speaker 2: this medication. There can be a lot of side effects
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  Speaker 2: to these drugs.
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  Speaker 3: You know what there's a lot more of than this? Suicide.
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  Speaker 3: And in virtually every suicide case, there were cries for
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  Speaker 3: help that were ignored or couldn't be addressed, and the
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  Speaker 3: people end up taking their own life. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: mental health. If you really want to have a bad day,
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  Speaker 3: go find somebody, especially that deals with the institutionalized mentally insane.
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  Speaker 3: I know somebody that does. And I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: these people stay sane themselves, because if you've ever dealt
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  Speaker 3: with some of the really, really severe psychiatric disorders, if
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  Speaker 3: you ever go into a mental institution that's dealing with
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  Speaker 3: the truly... you know, severely mentally insane. It's an eye-opener. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to sit here and blame people, you could have,
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  Speaker 3: should have, would have. I can tell you right now,
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  Speaker 3: the vast majority of those people were doing everything that
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  Speaker 3: they thought they could do for that person within the
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  Speaker 3: scope of their practice and within the laws that exist.
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  Speaker 3: But there's also.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of those medications have serious side effects.
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  Speaker 2: Do they not have suicide or violence or.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, you're taking stuff that's altering your brain chemistry.
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  Speaker 3: You're altering your serotonin levels, your norepinephrine levels. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, do they have serious side effects? Yeah. You know,
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  Speaker 3: is that what ultimately causes? I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: postpartum depression in the cases where it's legitimate is something
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  Speaker 3: you just can't understand. I mean, stop and think about how...
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  Speaker 3: How deranged somebody is that they would want to take
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  Speaker 3: their own lives, or God forbid, I couldn't kill any child.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't fathom killing my own children. I don't even
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  Speaker 3: understand how you get there. So this lady was clearly
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  Speaker 3: mentally incompetent in saying whatever you want to call her.
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  Speaker 3: But it happens. I mean, we live in an imperfect world.
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  Speaker 3: And it's going to continue to happen. There's no way
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  Speaker 3: we can prevent tragedies like this. They're unfortunate. Hopefully we
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  Speaker 3: can reduce the incidence. These people can get help. They
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  Speaker 3: can get treated. But, I mean, I see combinations of
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  Speaker 3: drugs on a daily basis where I just scratch my head.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, but I'm not a mental health, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do a residency in mental health as a pharmacist.
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  Speaker 3: The people that are prescribing this stuff did. They're highly
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  Speaker 3: trained in dealing and treating mental issues. The other problem
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  Speaker 3: you have is then you have to deal with insurance
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of other things. That's a whole other
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  Speaker 3: rabbit hole we could go down. But I can tell
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  Speaker 3: you right now, I don't think any of these people
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  Speaker 3: were negligent in their practice or behavior. I think they
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  Speaker 3: were probably all trying to do the best they could
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  Speaker 3: to treat this lady and get her help. But we
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  Speaker 3: live in an imperfect world, and sometimes people fall through
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  Speaker 3: the cracks, and I think that's what happened here, unfortunately. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: When you take stuff, though, just from a standpoint, I
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  Speaker 2: hear all of these. I was listening to Armstrong and
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  Speaker 2: Getty this morning, and the one guy was talking about
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  Speaker 2: how he was on testosterone. And what a difference it made.
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  Speaker 2: And then he got off of it because you got
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  Speaker 2: to do these constant blood tests. And he got off
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  Speaker 2: of it and how it was just, he stopped doing
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  Speaker 2: a blood test. I forget if it was Armstrong or Yeti.
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  Speaker 2: He stopped doing the blood tests because they were painful.
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  Speaker 2: And you got to do these blood tests on a
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  Speaker 2: regular thing when you're on testosterone. And he's going to
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  Speaker 2: get back on it because he felt so much better
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  Speaker 2: when he was on it. And I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 2: I knew a guy that got on testosterone and he
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  Speaker 2: You've heard about road rage?
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  Speaker 3: Road rage. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he got on testosterone and he got road rage.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he went and saw his doctor and his
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  Speaker 2: doctor said, you got to get the hell off of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. You're messing with whatever your hormones or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. And that's why you got a quick temper
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  Speaker 2: while you're flaring off like that. You need to.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, that's why you're acting like an ass from your
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  Speaker 2: testosterone level. So he got off of it and he
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  Speaker 2: was back to normal. So when I was listening to
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  Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yeti, this guy was talking about what a
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  Speaker 2: benefit it was to him, I guess, if it's properly monitored.
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I see people with testosterone therapy and I
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  Speaker 3: think there are instances where it's legitimate. We don't see
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  Speaker 3: that much of it, I'll be honest with you. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I could probably count on one or two hands total
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  Speaker 3: out of the thousands of patients I see a month,
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  Speaker 3: the number of men that are doing that. As a
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  Speaker 3: matter of fact, it would probably be interesting to see
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  Speaker 3: if there's actually more women now on this transition, this
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  Speaker 3: tranny stuff, doing testosterone than I have male patients. I
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  Speaker 3: never really thought much about that. And I mean, I've seen,
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  Speaker 3: if you really want to go down a rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to go down those rabbit holes.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to stay with normal stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that was interesting to hear him talk about it this
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  Speaker 2: morning on how he was on it and how it
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  Speaker 2: made him feel so much better and more energetic and
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  Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. But they never talk about
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  Speaker 2: the side effects of it. But I guess it's constant
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  Speaker 2: blood test and constant monitoring as a result of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not without its side. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: can increase blood pressure. You can I think it puts
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  Speaker 3: you at an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, depending upon
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  Speaker 3: the dose. I mean, if we're talking mild doses and that,
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  Speaker 3: not typically, but when you look at these weightlifters and that,
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  Speaker 3: that we're abusing it, a lot of these people end
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  Speaker 3: up with a lot of cardiovascular disease and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: And like you said, mental issues with the steroid rage,
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  Speaker 3: things like that. So whenever you put something in your body, okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a free ride. There's always trade-offs. You know,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully the benefits outweigh the risks. And when you make
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  Speaker 3: a healthcare decision, that's what you have to look at.
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  Speaker 3: If a doctor recommends, if you've got a bad back,
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  Speaker 3: let's say you've got a herniated disc or something like that,
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  Speaker 3: and you're looking at surgery versus maybe other types of therapy,
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  Speaker 3: taking a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory or stuff like that or doing injections,
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  Speaker 3: it's a risk because you may have that surgery and
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  Speaker 3: it may not go well. And you may end up
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  Speaker 3: being worse after the surgery than you were before. We
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  Speaker 3: live in an imperfect world. And you have to put
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  Speaker 3: it on a scale and weigh the pros versus the cons,
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  Speaker 3: and hopefully you make the right decision and it works
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  Speaker 3: out for you. But sometimes you don't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't use the clinical term, so don't
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  Speaker 2: get offended, folks. I mean, genuinely, there are people that
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  Speaker 2: mentally are just genuinely nuts. You know, the hearing voices
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  Speaker 2: and schizophrenia. I mean, they are just crazy. And like
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  Speaker 2: you said, if you look at them, It's sometimes. And
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  Speaker 2: then on the other hand, you can look at some
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  Speaker 2: of these drugs, like I say, some of these mental
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  Speaker 2: drugs that are prescribed and they can change a person's
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  Speaker 2: behavior for the worst, too, where they say, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 2: that made this person violent or made him suicidal or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, you're messing with the brain chemistry with
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. There's a science to it. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they get it wrong, I suspect.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know somebody whose father, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: his kid were born, his father had bad hips. He
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  Speaker 3: wanted to get his hips replaced, had his hip replaced.
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  Speaker 3: A couple days later, gets a clot, throws it, goes
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  Speaker 3: to his brain, dead. You know, so once again, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, but it happens. We live in an imperfect world.
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  Speaker 3: The medical system especially is imperfect. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times we make, you know, hopefully less bad choices where
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  Speaker 3: there's only bad choices to make, and hopefully we make
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  Speaker 3: less bad choices. And it's judgment calls. But to sit
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  Speaker 3: here and crucify the people that were doing her care,
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  Speaker 3: if it's investigated and looked into, I doubt these people
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  Speaker 3: were negligent, especially criminally negligent. Because when you're dealing with
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  Speaker 3: mental health, if you've never dealt with somebody that has
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  Speaker 3: that or worked with people like that, you have no
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  Speaker 3: idea how difficult it is. It's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It's where I saw, I think, when I was sent
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  Speaker 2: something that he was that. Where was it that he's
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  Speaker 2: suing me? Patrick Clancy is suing several of Lindsay's health
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  Speaker 2: care providers for medical malpractice. He filed a lawsuit both
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  Speaker 2: personally and is represented by the estate of the children.
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  Speaker 2: His suit names, Dr. Jennifer Tufts, Rebecca Jolota. All of
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  Speaker 2: these people allege that Lindsay was given a bevy of
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  Speaker 2: powerful medications while providers failed to adequately monitor her, worsening
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  Speaker 2: her mental state. The lawsuit says that without adequate care,
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  Speaker 2: more likely than not, the lawsuit says that with, I
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  Speaker 2: should say, adequate care, more likely than not, the three
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  Speaker 2: children would still be alive today. It's certainly worth exploring.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know. I mean, maybe... Maybe that is true.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they do need it.
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  Speaker 3: What, was she supposed to come in for an office
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  Speaker 3: appointment every day and an evaluation because the insurance isn't
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  Speaker 3: going to pay for that? That's what I mean. You
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  Speaker 3: sit here and you armchair quarterback and second guess. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I think it's a tragedy. I wish it
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  Speaker 3: never would have happened, but there's no way you can
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  Speaker 3: predict it. Believe me, there are probably hundreds or thousands
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  Speaker 3: of other women out there like this that will not
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  Speaker 3: get to that point. but are perfectly capable of potentially
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  Speaker 3: getting there, and you have no idea whether they're going
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  Speaker 3: to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the incidence.
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  Speaker 3: This is not a common occurrence.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I have not followed it as close as, like,
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  Speaker 2: the boss lady, but when I hear the boss lady
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  Speaker 2: talk about it or Ted the conservative talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed to me that she was reaching
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  Speaker 2: out for a lot of assistance and a lot of help,
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  Speaker 2: and I get the impression the system did somewhat fail
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  Speaker 2: her based on what they're telling me or their impressions.
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  Speaker 2: Which I respect their opinions a great deal on the
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  Speaker 2: system failing her.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a fail-proof system. Nothing is. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: a fail-safe system in anything. And especially when you're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with mental health. Because mental health, it's as much an
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  Speaker 3: art as it is a science. And you may think
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  Speaker 3: you did everything right as a medical professional, and this happens. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's very deep. Because I'm telling you right now,
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  Speaker 3: for every one woman like this, there are others out
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  Speaker 3: there who will never do this. The vast majority. The
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  Speaker 3: overwhelming majority never will do it. Why this lady snapped
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  Speaker 3: and did it, God only knows. Now, that said, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: I think with our legal system in cases like this,
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  Speaker 3: a judge should just be able to say, look, it
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  Speaker 3: is obvious you've got severe mental issues. I am pronouncing
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  Speaker 3: you guilty but insane, and we'll put you in a
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  Speaker 3: mental institution, and we'll revisit you in five or ten years,
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  Speaker 3: or whatever the people there say. You're back to somewhat
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  Speaker 3: being normal again. And save the taxpayers a lot of
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  Speaker 3: money with the trial and all this other stuff. And,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're on a jury and you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to deal with this, how do your emotions not come
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  Speaker 3: into play so that you sympathize? with this woman. Especially,
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  Speaker 3: I think, what was the jury? It's like nine of
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  Speaker 3: the jurors, I think, are women. And women are going
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  Speaker 3: to look at this a lot different from men.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they must be deadlocked.
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  Speaker 3: Especially the ones that were mothers are going to sympathize
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  Speaker 3: or either sympathize or want this lady's rope around her neck.
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  Speaker 2: Because remember, as members of the jury, they also saw
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  Speaker 2: the pictures of those dead children and how they were killed. Yep. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but that's the jury system. Obviously, the judge
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  Speaker 2: sent them back to say you need to talk more
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  Speaker 2: and try to work out your differences and we'll go
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  Speaker 2: from there. So you don't know if it's 11 to
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  Speaker 2: 1 or what the breakdown is.
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  Speaker 3: No, Boss Lady said it'll be a hung jury and
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  Speaker 3: it would not. Based on what I heard today, I
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  Speaker 3: would agree with her on that. I think you're looking
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  Speaker 3: at a hung jury.
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  Speaker 2: I think the judge is basically saying this has been
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  Speaker 2: a long trial. You need to give it more time.
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  Speaker 2: You need to talk more. You need to weigh this.
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  Speaker 3: Think of the cost. Think of the cost. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know you shouldn't think, you know, not everything should
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  Speaker 3: be thought of in terms of dollars and cents. But
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  Speaker 3: you look at a lot of these trials, especially these
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  Speaker 3: sensational ones, you're in millions of dollars spent on this.
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  Speaker 3: When I think 99.9% of the people would say she's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is a tragedy. She's guilty, but she
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  Speaker 3: was insane. So we're not going to throw her in
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  Speaker 3: a regular prison in the general population. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: put her in some type of a mental institution. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that would be the best outcome.
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  Speaker 2: So now, okay, with that being done, now you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about the Boardman School situation. Now inform our listeners who
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  Speaker 2: didn't read the article and what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Well, lo and behold, surprise, you know, Shazam, the Boardman schools,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't see it coming, but they're $ 12 million in
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  Speaker 3: the hole this year. Can you believe that? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just out of nowhere, this must have appeared. Until you
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  Speaker 3: read the article and you find out that they've seen
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  Speaker 3: their state, you know, they thought, even though the state
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  Speaker 3: said they were going to cut local funding, they were
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  Speaker 3: pretty much counting on what they'd been getting. Right. to
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  Speaker 3: keep coming in. And when all of a sudden the
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  Speaker 3: state lived up to its promise and cut their money,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God, we've got an emergency now. And I
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  Speaker 3: can tell you right now, you know, I go to
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  Speaker 3: school board meetings a lot. We've got a really good
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  Speaker 3: treasurer out here at South Range. And the one before
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  Speaker 3: him was pretty good. And actually, the one before him
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  Speaker 3: was even more conservative. And he basically said, anytime the
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  Speaker 3: state tells me something, I take it as gospel. He said,
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  Speaker 3: so if they say they're going to take $ 400, 000 from
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  Speaker 3: my budget in two years, he said, I take them
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  Speaker 3: at their word and I take the $ 400, 000 out of
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  Speaker 3: my budget. Well, from my reading of the article, it
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  Speaker 3: sounded like this treasurer and superintendent didn't take the money
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  Speaker 3: out of the budget. Just passed a new teacher's contract
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  Speaker 3: where they allowed the steps, the people to matriculate up
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  Speaker 3: the steps. I don't think they didn't increase the base salary,
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  Speaker 3: but they allowed the steps to continue. And for people
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  Speaker 3: who don't know what that is, if you're a teacher
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  Speaker 3: year one, you start at step one. Year two, you
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  Speaker 3: automatically get a raise up to step two. And it comes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every year that you advance in your career,
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  Speaker 3: your salary goes up a step. And on top of that, typically,
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  Speaker 3: there's an increase to the base rate. So most people
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  Speaker 3: get a, like an inflate, we would call it an
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  Speaker 3: inflation adjustment or a yearly raise. They get that, but
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  Speaker 3: they also get their step increase. They get their bump
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  Speaker 3: up to the next level. So it's almost like a
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  Speaker 3: double raise. And that's not just teachers. That's almost all
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  Speaker 3: public employees are paid that way. So it's a goofy,
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  Speaker 3: to me it's a goofy system. I don't understand it,
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  Speaker 3: but it doesn't happen typically in the private sector, but
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it does very common in the public sector. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're shocked, shocked, I say, to find, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: state lived up to their word and cut their funding.
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  Speaker 3: And now they've got a $ 12 million deficit this year
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  Speaker 3: that they can't figure out how they're going to solve.
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  Speaker 3: It's real simple. Start cutting payroll. Because I graduated from Boardman.
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  Speaker 3: We had 413 kids in my graduating class. They're not
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  Speaker 3: anywhere close to that now. I think they're in the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: low 300s. And I bet if I went back and looked,
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  Speaker 3: there's almost as many teachers there today as there was
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  Speaker 3: when we were graduating 400 and 500. These people had payroll.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to see money wasted on the government side,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: at just astronomical levels going to any school system. They
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: love to waste money. And cuts, I mean, if you
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: make any type of a cut, it's the end of
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the world. You're taking money away from children. What type
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: of a person are you for doing that? I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: it was, what was it, Canfield? A couple months ago,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: they were dealing with their crisis, and they might have
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to cut, I think it was, what was it? Aeronautics,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I think. Who teaches aeronautics in high school? You want aeronautics,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: go to the vocational school. That has no business even
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: being taught at a regular high school, in my opinion.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: There's so much stuff that they waste money on, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: especially administratively. But this is why, if I had my way,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: we would just go to countywide schools. You would have
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a single county superintendent. You would still be Boardman, Spartans, Fitch, Falcons, whatever,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: but you need to centralize the administration and start taking
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  Speaker 3: all the costs out of this because nobody wastes money
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  Speaker 3: more than education does, at least at the local level.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure if you get to the federal level, you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: get into the military and other places like that, it's astronomical.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: But at the local level, schools are the biggest profligate
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: wasters of your money that you're going to find. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: once again, you know, they renewed the health care contract.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what do they expect the citizens of Boardman
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to do? Pay more?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think they know they're not getting another levy. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: think they even said, you know, we don't have any.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: And that's the whole thing. They always look at we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: need to ink, we need to find other revenue sources. No,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: you don't. You need to cut your budget. It's that simple.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: It's not rocket science. But these people think it's really
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: how you decide. was talking about cost-based budgeting, how like
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: every year, if you're at the federal government, you don't,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: you know, a 6% increase is automatically assumed. And if
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you only get a 2% increase, then it's a cut
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: to the budget. Well, education is pretty much the same thing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: They just think that every year they should have more
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: money coming in and more money coming in because they
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: can't control their spending. But if you look at what,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know what tuition is at Ursula and Mooney
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: right now. If I was a venture guest, I'd say
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: it's probably around eight grand. And they're producing graduates that
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: can read right, function highly, many of them are highly successful.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And same thing at the elementary school. They're not just
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Catholic schools, private schools in general. And they're producing very
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: good quality students for a much lower cost than what
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: is being spent at the public sector. If they're spending $ 8, 000, $ 9, 000,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and the average school system around here is spending $ 12, 000,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: then you've got Youngstown City. You're looking at, what, $ 28, 000
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: or $ 30, 000 per student there, and they can't even read
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and write. About two-thirds of them, at least according to
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the state testing. But it just, I get so tired
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: of hearing these superintendents and treasurers whining about funding. Cut budgets.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And this is why people, I would highly encourage people, start,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you know, once, take one, find one meeting a year,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: go to it and just find out how bad you're
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: getting hosed over. Because I guarantee you all those people
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: on the Boardman School Board ran saying that they were
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: going to be fiscally responsible, and now you're $ 12 million,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a million dollars a month? I haven't even figured out
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: what the daily rate on that is, but it's a
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: lot of money.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: All right. Gotcha. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Take care, Ron. All right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: News Radio 570 WKBN. I was just looking at this email.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Dear Mr. Verb, that would be me. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: am writing because I hope you will consider reading the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: message below aloud on your show. I'm not asking you
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to agree with every word of it. I'm asking you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to consider it because I believe it reflects the frustration
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of a lot of people who supported Donald Trump or
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: used to support him and are now wondering what happened
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to the priorities we were promised. Many of us supporting
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Trump because we wanted America first to mean focusing on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: ordinary Americans, lowering the cost of living, making groceries and
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: housing affordable, protecting American workers, keeping us out of unnecessary
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: foreign conflicts and putting the problems of working families ahead
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of political theater. Instead, Americans are struggling to pay for food, rent, insurance, utilities,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: car payments, and everything else required just to stay afloat
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: while we watch politicians celebrate symbolic victories and ridiculous distractions.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: This is what I would like you to consider. This
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: is why I would like you to consider reading this. So,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: This is where we are now. Millions of Americans are
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: getting absolutely hammered by grocery prices, rent, insurance, utilities, car payments,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: through grocery stores, putting food back because they can't afford
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the total. Seniors are counting every dollar. Working people are
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: busting their arses and still falling behinds. But apparently one
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of our national priorities is changing the name printed next
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to the body of water on a federal map. You
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: can rename Lake Ontario the Atlantic Ocean. The moon ends
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: every pothole in Pennsylvania. It does not lower one grocery bill.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It does not make rent cheaper. It does not put
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: gas in a worker's car. It does not help a
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: parent feed their children. This is exactly why people are
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: becoming so frustrated. While ordinary Americans are dealing with very
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: real problems, Washington keeps giving us political theater, expecting us
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to celebrate it like we need an affordable, like something
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: meaningful was accomplished. While ordinary Americans are dealing with very
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: real problems, Washington keeps giving us political theater and expects
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: us to celebrate it. Okay, celebrate it like something meaningful.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: We need an affordable America. Bring down the cost of food.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Make housing affordable again. Address health care and insurance costs.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Protect wages and American jobs. Stop wasting our attention on
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: symbolic nonsense while families are drowning financially. Then maybe we
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: can worry about what the hell we're calling a lake. Ron,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I think voices like yours are important precisely because people
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: listen to you who may not hear this criticism anywhere else.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Criticizing Trump when he deserves criticism does not automatically make
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: someone a Democrat. And the American people come first. When
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: ordinary families are struggling to afford dinner, changing the name
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of a lake should be somewhere around number 10 million
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: on Washington's priority list. Thank you for taking the time
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to read this and for considering sharing it with your listeners.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That's from Frank. All right, Frank, I read it. So
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: there you go. You're on the air.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Hello?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Hi, Ron.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, please.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: It's Christine Oliver. I was calling about the Clancy trial.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And I wanted to weigh in and say I think
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's a tragedy what happened to those children. I think
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: that the husband also... should be held accountable in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: fact that if my spouse told me that they were
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: thinking of killing our children, I would never have left
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: them alone with the other person because I would be
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: too worried about their safety. And I also think that
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: if she was found to be insane, she should be
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: locked up in a mental institution for the rest of
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: her life. So I do think that she should not
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: be allowed out. I feel like the medical profession being
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: blamed for things, a lot of people don't realize, because
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I've been in insurance for 30 years, that once a
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: person is stabilized, they can't keep them. Legally, they can't
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: keep a person, and insurance companies won't pay for it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: which I think that is sad as well. So I
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: think it's a tragedy all the way around. I feel
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: sorry for the three children that lost their lives, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I think she should be locked up forever.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate your inputs. You're on the air.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Ronald.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Ted the Conservative. Yes. You've been watching all of this.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Your intake would be very interesting on some of the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: calls that you're hearing.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got back from my daily walk. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: let me tell you, it's hot outside.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they always tell me it's 89. I check on
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the elderly. Are you okay? Because I'm checking on you.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I just walked eight miles. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. If my face is on fire or
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: if I feel like falling asleep.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It's hot. Eight miles. You walked eight miles.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Eight miles.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Do you do that every day?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Eight to ten. Today is a hot day, so
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: two and a half hours. But I started this whole
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: healthy living thing back in January. I've lost like 50
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: pounds since January. Really? Really. Yeah, really?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: How about that? 50 pounds? So this is interesting. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: want to hear about this, and then I want to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: hear your take on this Clancy trial. Stay tuned. I've
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: got to pause for my headlines. This should be interesting.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Ted the Conservative coming up. More of your calls straight ahead.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: 330-729-9977.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: 330-729-9977. Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Owning on NewsRadio
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  Speaker 2: 570 WKBN.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: The Alzheimer's Association and the Ad Council present the story
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: of Tom and Levi.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Tom is the smartest man I know.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: He's been a professor at two major universities, been a
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: teacher for over 40 years. One day he told me
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: that he was having problems in his classes. I think
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: one of the students had asked the question and.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: He didn't remember the answer.
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  Speaker 6: I also noticed that he was letting his class out
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  Speaker 6: earlier than they were supposed to let out. And he
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: was telling them that he was doing it as a
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: favor to them, but I think in reality he just
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: wanted to get out of there. I was really starting
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: to worry because I saw something was wrong.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Levi and I talked about how it would change our lives,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: but he was there beside me, and my love for
• 28:26
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• 28:29
  Speaker 5: When something feels different, it could be Alzheimer's. Now is
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• 28:38
  Speaker 5: A message from the Alzheimer's Association and the Ad Council.
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  Speaker 2: From the Money Talks investment coach, John.