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- 0:00Hi and welcome to the Curve Weekly, the podcast that keeps you up to date with all the money,
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- 0:10and Annie shouldn't miss out just because she can't afford it. Help me, I'm poor.
- 0:15The weirdest thing just happened, well actually not just then, but like two hours ago,
- 0:21so we work from the city works depot, that's where we sort of work out of when we're in Auckland,
- 0:26and I've been complaining about my skin. You know, when you're in adult and you get acne,
- 0:31and it just sucks, and you feel so... And you're like, puberty is over, why am I still getting this?
- 0:36Yeah, and we, I don't know, it's been like really getting me down lightly, just my skin and
- 0:41feeling like a teenager. I've definitely just had like shit pimples popping up everywhere,
- 0:47and I'm offered, and we ran into Emma Lawson, who has this New Zealand skin care brand,
- 0:52and she just has some most beautiful skin. And I was like, of course, flawless, beautiful,
- 1:00and here I am with like, you know, just pimples out, and I just don't know what happened,
- 1:04but I had a bit of a like, over sheer moment, and I was like, oh, I'm just so sick of my
- 1:09skin, do you have any tips? She's like, well, I mean, you said it, come with me.
- 1:13No, but also, you know, how you can tell when people are super passionate about their work,
- 1:18and I don't know, there's a difference between just selling products, and then actually really
- 1:21believing in what you're doing. And she's never talking about like the science of this new
- 1:25product she'd brought out, and it helps with, I think I might be getting this wrong, but something
- 1:29about probiotics, and how sometimes your face is like breeding too much something or other,
- 1:35and you've got to stop the production of it. Anyway, she was so sweet, she took me, she took
- 1:40both of us into the evolution of systems, like, here you go, try these out. Oh my god, I actually
- 1:44feel like I could burst into tears. But it is true. It's like, when your skin is really bad,
- 1:50all you want to do is put so much product on to try and make it better. And you're like, okay,
- 1:54I'm going to try, if it's too oily, I'm going to try heaps of products to dry it out, and by
- 1:59supposed to, and the best thing, which is what she said is to just strip it back to basics. And
- 2:03it's so true. Whenever you have breakouts, a rash, oily, yeah, I don't know, I just, it's
- 2:09personally what I find is you just go back to the real basics, and because the more you try and
- 2:13do, the more it kind of infuriates it. Hey, what's happening in the stock market? I'm glad you
- 2:17are soft. Yeah, I can't wait. Fill me in. Well, there has been a lot going on this week,
- 2:24last week. Will we next week? Because it's reporting season. So, who are we? It's a big week.
- 2:31Really? Really? Meta? That's the reaction I'm after. No, I just went wow and really, which
- 2:38keeps happening to me, slurring two words into one. We, we, we, we, we, yes, we have meta,
- 2:46we have Amazon, we have Microsoft, we have alphabet, which is Google, and we have Apple. So,
- 2:53lots of big companies reporting results this week. And the key thing with these large companies
- 2:58reporting their results is that because they're so massive, because they've got such a presence
- 3:04and so many different countries all over the world, they're a really good, like, barometer
- 3:09for how the world is doing. So people look at their results with a microscope. So,
- 3:15we had alphabets results, which was actually quite bad. It's not price fell about 6% on the day.
- 3:21And that's all because Google is seeing a real, real slowdown in advertising growth. So,
- 3:27companies not as many as much on Google ads. For example, and they've announced a massive
- 3:34investment into servers and data centers for their AI. So, they're investing 11 billion dollars
- 3:42into hardware to service their investment in AI. So, that's massive. 11 billion.
- 3:49It's a huge amount of money. I know. I'm just, I can't even fathom. I wish I knew what that was,
- 3:53like, to the moon and that. You know how people were like, that's $100 notes stacked on top of each
- 3:58other to the moon and back. You know, that is a lot of money. So, do you think the fact that they're
- 4:03investing like 11 billion into this is a pretty good indication that I mean, alphabets
- 4:09an enormous company, there's obviously incredibly intelligent people running it. The fact that they're
- 4:14investing so much in AI, would you think it's like a big tech in terms of like, oh yeah, AI,
- 4:19like the opportunities they must be seeing and the growth that they'll see from that investment
- 4:26is obviously really massive. A good question. It's always quite risky because investors,
- 4:32they want to see companies investing for future growth to a point. They don't want to see companies
- 4:38investing and spending billions or millions of dollars and then not seeing any results from it
- 4:45and not seeing any growth or any traction. There's some investors that are like, oh, is this quite
- 4:50risky by Google or is this going to pay off? And that's where your decision as an investor,
- 4:56you would look at that headline and go, oh, amazing, they're investing 11 billion. Yep, you know what?
- 5:01I'm going to invest more money into alphabets or you might as an investor go, oh gosh,
- 5:07I don't think Google's going to win this artificial intelligence race. I think it might be Amazon
- 5:12or someone else, Apple or Microsoft. So I'm actually going to not invest in alphabets.
- 5:18But sorry, what do you mean for in terms of the race? Like, isn't the whole point that it's
- 5:24going to be something that all of these companies will be implementing and benefiting from?
- 5:28It's one of those one AI platform and whoever gets their first is going to be the winner.
- 5:33Isn't it probably quite a good sign if all of these companies, all of them are investing
- 5:37in it because they all see an opportunity? Wouldn't it be more scary if you were to look at it and see,
- 5:42okay, meta and alphabets are investing all this money in AI but Microsoft and so on so
- 5:48are deciding not to? Then it would be way more opinion based on whether or not AI is a good idea
- 5:54if all of them are doing it. Good question. No, they yes, you're right. The whole AI space is
- 5:59growing and it's going to permeate into lots of different areas of our lives. But with all these
- 6:05big companies, there's only so much market share. There's only so much space for a new technology.
- 6:11So someone's going to win that race. You stay all might benefit, but someone's going to be the
- 6:15dominant go-to for AI or someone's going to be the dominant go-to for search like Google is.
- 6:22Someone's going to be the go-to for social media. A lot of companies start out trying to win the race
- 6:29and then there's usually one that is the go-to for everyone. Yeah, there's lots and when I say
- 6:35when the race, it's metaphorical. It's not like cool you've won, but right now Microsoft looks like
- 6:39it's winning the race. They've got the investment in chat GPT. The investors have been able to see
- 6:45the benefits of their investment in AI. So right now from an investor point of view, they are winning
- 6:51the race in terms of AI and that's been reflected in the share price. Is that kind of a sense?
- 6:56Yeah, so what a good way of thinking about it be if you look at Netflix and the fact that they
- 7:01are, they were the first in market and when people talk about Netflix and chill, the brand that they
- 7:08use is Netflix. Similarly with, you know, not normal taxis. We say Uber, yeah, but there's also
- 7:17a million other brands. So it's like, yes, there's going to be lots of people that have the same
- 7:22type of business, i.e. incorporating AI into what they're doing, but there'll be the one main
- 7:28leader who is kind of like this iconic AI central business kind of. Yes, exactly. Yeah, the go-to,
- 7:38when you say AI, you think of Microsoft. It means you have less advertising. Naturally,
- 7:43people are going to gravitate towards your product when they're wanting to do that service or use
- 7:48their product. So there's like mountains of benefits, but yes, right now Microsoft is winning,
- 7:54metaphorically winning the AI race and that's been reflected in their share price. They're now the
- 7:59largest, the biggest company in the world. They've beat an Apple. They had a really good result as
- 8:05well this week. Revenue of $60 billion in just three months, which is wild. Yeah, and they all
- 8:12talked about AI. So the management team will talk to investors and all they're talking about was AI
- 8:17and their investment in AI. So it looks like at the moment, they're winning the race. Anyway,
- 8:23we have Boeing as well. Boeing's result was really bad. Oh, is this the the broken aircraft that
- 8:29like was falling out of the sky or something? Yes. And one thing they did is that they didn't give
- 8:34investors an indication of what the future outlook would be. They did what we call they suspended
- 8:40guidance. So they said, we're not going to give you an indication of what our year looks like
- 8:44for the year ahead, which is never a good sign. Why would they say that? Isn't that going to
- 8:48freak everyone out? Yeah, but they don't know because of their had such an issue with these with
- 8:53these doors and with these parts of the plane, they literally do not know what the year is going to
- 8:58look like, which for investors, you're like, Oh gosh, well, if you don't know, I don't know. So see you
- 9:02later. That must be terrifying for people in the company. Like the idea of not even knowing if
- 9:08your business is going to be around. I think it'll be around. Sorry. I didn't mean I think they just
- 9:12don't know what the year is going to look like in terms of, well, they produce $10 billion
- 9:16a profit. Well, they produce a hundred billion. It just means it's such a mind-fuck, excuse my
- 9:22language, to forecast right now that they're just not even getting a bother. It's kind of what they're
- 9:27saying. Also, if anyone that missed it, the Boeing, there was like an issue with one of the aircraft.
- 9:31We're like a door fell off. Is that what happened? Yeah. And so obviously not ideal in terms of being like,
- 9:38oh, shitballs, we can't have these planes in there because if there's doors flying off,
- 9:43hazard for people on the plane, off the plane. And then all the customers who have ordered
- 9:50planes from Boeing, they're like, you know what, we want to cancel out water or we want to reduce
- 9:56out water or we want a different type of plane. So just caused lots and lots of issues in terms of
- 10:02Boeing's products, really. At H&M, they are seeing less people spending on clothing, which we
- 10:09kind of seeing amongst peers, our friends, well, I'm definitely seeing that people are like, you
- 10:14know what, I just don't have the extra cash to spend. So interesting. You say that, though, because
- 10:19I've got a lot of friends including myself who don't really want to be buying from H&M or Zara
- 10:25or any of the fast fashion labels. But to be spending and investing money in quality pieces is
- 10:31really hard at the moment. So there's kind of the flip side, but there is some stuff that's
- 10:36necessity, whether it's a t-shirt or a jumper or hoodie. And you know, maybe a couple of years ago,
- 10:43you might have bought something that was a little bit higher quality. But now it's just non-option.
- 10:48Like, when we were in London and we needed socks and I needed a new hoodie and flamma and needed
- 10:53stuff, we all went there together and we were all trying on like t-shirts and hoodies and actually
- 10:58that reminds me, I still haven't paid him back for that hoodie. Oh my god. I know. Can you please
- 11:03tell him? But the other day, I was like, well, hit her up. He's like, no, no, no, that's fine.
- 11:07Oh my god. Can you please tell him that? I'm sorry. Awkward. Oh my god. K, can you just
- 11:12hear that? Oh, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. And then they're like, oh, actually,
- 11:17that girl stores it. It's like, you know, someone's like, don't worry. Don't worry. Oh,
- 11:20that fucking Victoria. She keeps doing it. You know, it's like, well, if you've got a
- 11:24one, just say it to my face. But anyway, if you could please find out how much that was or I can
- 11:28look online. Can you find his account? So I can transfer him. That's so incredibly awkward.
- 11:33But the point was all of us needed essentials and rather than going somewhere that was like,
- 11:37we have a joint account so you can just chuck it in the joint account. Excuse me. Sorry. What?
- 11:43Do you actually? Is this a joke? I can't tell if you're being serious. Do you? I'm being serious.
- 11:50What? Since when did you have a joint account for what? It was just easier because I hate going out
- 11:55for brunch or whatever. And it's like, you, I'll get this. I'll get this. It's like, oh,
- 11:59God, let's just chuck it on the joint account. But hold on. Sorry. It's so much easier. You can't drop
- 12:03shit like that on me without like, what? It's not a big deal. So, you know, I know it's not,
- 12:08but I just need to understand, is this for like, personal fun stuff? Because you don't live together.
- 12:12So what's the like, so it's literally just like a fun account when we're out together? Yeah,
- 12:16it's like, that's a good idea. I just hate, there's nothing I hate more than having an argument
- 12:22at the till. And the waitress is standing there like looking at you like, oh, can you just hurry
- 12:26the F up and you're like, no, no, I'll get it. No, I'll get it. No, I'll get it. And I hate that.
- 12:31So, but do you think it's also something that's kind of nice about being like, I'll get this one,
- 12:36you get the next like, is that not? Yeah, but then you can get that, you can get that on your
- 12:39personal account. Oh, I see. You're like, I want to treat you. I want to treat you. I'll get
- 12:44this. And like, over summer, we were like traveling around using petrol and, you know,
- 12:49just like stuff like that. And in London, we're going to be hanging out again. I don't know what I
- 12:54hope. Um, sorry, because I haven't paid him back for the hoodie. He's like, fuck, friends are so
- 13:00annoying. Sorry, we're to completely derailed the curve. We're clear to talk about your. But if you
- 13:05join finance, if you transfer money, that'd be great. Cause that would be some money.
- 13:08Go straight into the joint account. And then we'll pay for your next break first.
- 13:11Cool. Thank you so much. Yeah. No worries. And the last one I wanted to meet you was Starbucks.
- 13:17Now Starbucks had a bad result. They grew at this slowest pace they have for the last 12 months.
- 13:24Still generating nine billion and quarter. So we can all chill out. But it was all around the
- 13:30reason that for the slowness and growth, so they're not growing as fast as they previously had,
- 13:34was because of all their stores and the Middle East, which I didn't realize how many they had.
- 13:41So they've got about 2000 stores in the Middle East. And they're being impacted by the war. So
- 13:47obviously people aren't going to get a Starbucks. And so yeah, quite interesting to see that that's
- 13:53impacting the overall business so much. And they've got about 35,000 stores. So it's only a small
- 14:00amount, but it's impacting them quite significantly. So yeah, interesting, interesting.
- 14:06But we just have some really exciting news. And I love, I love it when we educate our audience
- 14:12about something. And then it happens. And you're like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like a real life
- 14:18example. And so we talk about stock splits. So this is when a company, their share prices down
- 14:25really well. And they're like, you know what? Let's split our stock so that it's more affordable
- 14:30for more people. So say your stock, your company's stock was at $200 and you did a two for one stock
- 14:37split, which means that you're splitting every share into two. So your share price would go from 200
- 14:44to 100 and 100. And so as an investor, the overall amount that I've invested in that business
- 14:51doesn't change just the makeup does because the price is lowered, but the number of shares
- 14:56I've got has increased in order to make sure that the amount I've invested isn't changed.
- 15:01This is deemed as a good thing because when a share price increases, that's when a company wants
- 15:06to usually split its stock. So it's like, wow, this company share price has done so well,
- 15:10we need to split it to make it accessible for more people. But this is one of the reasons why the
- 15:14company, I haven't even mentioned the company that was doing this, is Walmart. So Walmart has just
- 15:19announced this that they're doing a three for one stock split. So for every share you have of
- 15:24Walmart, that share gets divided into three shares. So people that have Walmart shares might wake
- 15:32up, they're like, whoa, how come I've got so many more now? But the value of my amount that I've
- 15:37invested in Walmart stays the same. It's because they've had a had a stock split. And they've done it
- 15:42because they want their store workers to be able to buy more shares, which is actually quite cool.
- 15:48So for a lot of people that work at Walmart, they're probably not on massive salaries. And so
- 15:53being able to buy one share, which is $165 US dollars is probably a bit unattainable. So they're like,
- 15:59hey, let's split the stock and therefore staff can buy shares if they want. So it's quite nice.
- 16:05This is the 12th stock split that Walmart's done because the cheap price has done so well. So
- 16:10yeah, 12, quite amazing. So I can also can ask you one more quick thing. What's
- 16:14like an overarching learning for people listening from reporting season? Like what are some key takeaways
- 16:20where you look at this? And you're like, oh, this is all really interesting stuff. But like at the
- 16:24start, you said it's a good indication for like overall economy growth and other big like kind of
- 16:30markers. So what are some key takeaways that we can all know? Yeah, I think firstly, I was a bit
- 16:36skeptical going into this reporting season because I'm not sure if you remember, but last week we
- 16:40spoke about how the S&P 500, so the main stock market in the US was reaching all time highs. So
- 16:47it's at levels that we've never seen before. And so that gives me a bit of concern, kind of freaks
- 16:54me out a bit because everyone's expectations are really high. And then you get companies reporting
- 17:00where the revenue is probably not as good as they thought or the profits not as good or
- 17:05that all that kind of thing. And so when you're going into a reporting season with the stock market
- 17:11doing so well, there is a tendency for it to fall or because expectations are so light. So yeah,
- 17:18it's this kind of it's a hard one because we're also not trying to concern ourselves with short-term
- 17:24movements of the stock market. But one takeaway I would say is that I think AI is going to be massive.
- 17:32We kind of know, but that's definitely one of the most common comments or subjects that's
- 17:39been talked about in reporting season. The other takeaway I would say is if there are, if you are
- 17:45stockpicking and you're invested in some companies that you like the sound of and you're thinking
- 17:49you're going to grow, definitely have a look at what they've reported, making sure nothing's changed
- 17:54massively in terms of their growth outlook, you know, they're not getting beaten up by a competitor
- 18:00or anything like that just to make just it. It's a good time to do a chicken of the stocks that
- 18:05you hold and go, oh, yeah, cool. That's all right. Oh, actually, that's that's worse than I
- 18:09thought. Maybe I maybe it's time that I sell out of that or buy something else or it might
- 18:14throw up some new ideas for you to invest in. But most people, it's kind of a cool nice and move on,
- 18:20especially if you're passive investor and you're just investing in ETFs, then it's kind of a nice
- 18:25to know, but well, I'm going to go away and write the curve weekly. So if anyone wants to,
- 18:30oh, yeah, good idea. It's actually where it got heaps of good, like investing tips and tricks
- 18:36and things going on in the markets. So we'll link that in our show notes, like for the podcast,
- 18:40but you can get it on the link in our Instagram and things as well. But you know, what we say we do,
- 18:45oh, God, what we said, we do our love. Oh, you didn't have a think. What? I didn't tell
- 18:52me. Can you tell me yours and I'll think of mine on the spot? Okay. I've got two. Oh, the
- 18:56second one. I just know I'm going to break. Oh, okay. The first one is limiting my takeaway
- 19:04coffees to two a week, which sounds a lot like you know, so how much I love a takeaway coffee.
- 19:11That's actually huge. So starting now, I am only having two takeaway coffees a week.
- 19:18Can I just copy you? Is that fine? Can I do that? Because like, we've got to be with each other's
- 19:23company a lot. And that's good because it'll motivate me. Okay. Well, the second one's going to be
- 19:27easy for you. You can't open a second one. No smoking when you move to London. No, it's no
- 19:36Uber Eats. Oh, my God. That's massive. I know. Oh, my God. I'm proud of you. That's huge.
- 19:43I'm going to do it. I'm going to think of my love budgeting and come back next week. I want
- 19:46to actually think about it. We've got one joint one and one individual one. Yeah. Yeah. I'll
- 19:51think of a joint. I really like that because I have been spending way too much on my on takeaway
- 19:55drinks lately. So if any Uber drivers out there deliver McDonald's to my door, you can totally
- 20:02eat it. You're not allowed to deliver it. In fact, if you see anyone named Victoria Harris
- 20:07that you're delivering to, eat it. Don't even just go to a house. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is going
- 20:12to be so hard when I'm hungover on Sunday. Good luck. But I'm excited to hear yours.
- 20:16Yes. I'll think of someone come back next week. Okay. You're also going to be really good. I just
- 20:20know what. Such an overachiever. Oh, my God. I love that. Bye. Thank you so much for listening
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