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The Cocaine Quarterback Con w/ Kimia Behpoornia · Scam Goddess

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Speaker 1: Scam, Come rob from scam, come right fron Goddess, what's
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Speaker 1: pop and congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Mosley aka scam Good.
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Speaker 1: It's back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery,
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Speaker 1: fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them,
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Speaker 1: sometimes we hate them. We will find out along the way.
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Speaker 1: And if y'all want to see me live in Chicago
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Speaker 1: at the House of Blues, in Irving, Texas, at the
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Speaker 1: Punchline Comedy Theater, New York, New York, at the Grand Mercy,
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Speaker 1: or in San Francisco back at the Cops Theater, we
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Speaker 1: all know that was a chaotic show. You can go
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Speaker 1: to Live Nation right now or ticket Master and for
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Speaker 1: my congregation, I will give you this scam code early.
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Speaker 1: It's goddess if you want a little discount on your tickets,
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Speaker 1: and we can all use a little discount in these times, okay.
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Speaker 1: And I tried to make the tickets cute, and I
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Speaker 1: didn't do dynamic pricing because I know that's a scam.
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Speaker 1: So I got y'all back. I got y'all back, Pull up,
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Speaker 1: pull up City Cities and you'll see them on my
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Speaker 1: socials too. But let's get to the main event here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: the Deaconess has returned and she has her white gloves
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Speaker 1: on and she's ready for service. We are doing three
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Speaker 1: services today. The highest member of the churches are visiting
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Speaker 1: and starting this year off right. You know it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a time, y'all. She's an actress, comedian and improv
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Speaker 1: genius that I've had the pleasure of playing with for many,
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Speaker 1: many years. Yes, you might recognize this lovely lady from
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Speaker 1: shows like Abbot, Elementary Hacks, Unicorne Store Reboot, and so
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Speaker 1: much more. Congregation, please welcome my dear friend kimmey up
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Speaker 1: in Pornia back to the show. Hi, Kimmy, damn s
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Speaker 1: I missed you so much. I happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: I want to hug you longer. But I was like,
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Speaker 1: I guess we have to like get in the elevator
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Speaker 1: right now. And it was.
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Speaker 2: Pretty long to start, you know, so we could have
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Speaker 2: done more.
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Speaker 1: Also, I got caught in a wind tunnel as I
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Speaker 1: was parking my car, and it was a very like
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Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna look fabulous today and have
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Speaker 1: a fabulous start. No, it's very Bridget Jones. It was
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Speaker 1: very like it was a struggle.
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Speaker 2: I was struggle have you seen because I said, so,
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Speaker 2: have you seen?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? But not in a long time.
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Speaker 2: Okay, It's like I think it's in this movie. I
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Speaker 2: think it's Mandy Moore like walks over and just trying
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Speaker 2: to go to work and like has her dress caught
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Speaker 2: in her underwear and she's tripping across the street.
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Speaker 1: It was very much that. It's kind of that. It
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Speaker 1: was giving that and I was I couldn't even try
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Speaker 1: to like make it cute. I was like, I'm giving up.
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Speaker 1: It's kim mea she knows.
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Speaker 2: And to me, that's cute. Bridget Jones is my type.
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Speaker 2: So I'm I love that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have to ask you, Kimmia, what's what's
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Speaker 1: your relationship with scams now? What scams that have been
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Speaker 1: crossing your eye? Any of you run any that have
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Speaker 1: been tried to run on you? Could be anything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually really disappointed in scams right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think they're really really getting my parents right now. Damn,
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Speaker 1: that's fucked up. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I went to visit them for the
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Speaker 2: and all that happened was just every day they'd get
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Speaker 2: a phone call that they would interact with and give
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Speaker 2: information to.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, stop, stop, it's a scam. Stop.
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Speaker 2: My mom has canceled like five credit cards.
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Speaker 1: He needs to call them more. I am, that's why
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Speaker 1: they're talking to the scammer. Don't put that shit on me,
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Speaker 1: like I am. I'm putting all that show. You're their
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Speaker 1: only daughter. I know you're their only child. You have
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Speaker 1: to call them like twice as much as other families
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Speaker 1: compensate for the other siblings.
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Speaker 2: They are calling me now to ask me like, is
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Speaker 2: this a scam?
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Speaker 1: This happened to me. So that's good.
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Speaker 2: They just don't like to bother me, And I don't
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Speaker 2: think it's a bother that's like their perspective that they're
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Speaker 2: bothering me. No, I'd love to help them not get
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Speaker 2: scammed exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And then also, you know, AI is like really tricking
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Speaker 2: my mom on the internet.
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Speaker 1: It's getting harder and harder to tell.
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Speaker 2: It's really bad. She thought she ordered some like weight
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Speaker 2: loss thing from Oprah and she sent me the video
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Speaker 2: and I was like, that's not oprah Man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was orps thing. No, we hate orpzimpic. You
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Speaker 1: get a shot, you get a shot, you get a shot.
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Speaker 2: No, it's dub it just like so didn't look like
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Speaker 2: her either just kind of was her face and it
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Speaker 2: wasn't even tracking well in the video.
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Speaker 1: And then it's just I don't know, Okay, if that
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Speaker 1: one's getting them, then the more advanced ones I know
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Speaker 1: from like Sora and other places are probably getting them
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Speaker 1: because I get on TikTok and I have to like
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Speaker 1: look at the video and then check the comments or
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Speaker 1: like really stare at how the people are moving. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like if they're moving too smooth, if the movements are
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Speaker 1: too fluid, it's ai because that's not how people move. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: people move a little bit more jerky, and so I
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Speaker 1: look at that or like one time it got me,
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Speaker 1: uh oh, it got me, but like I checked the
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Speaker 1: comments before I said anything. I was about to say
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Speaker 1: something like the video like made me tear up. It
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Speaker 1: was like, this is a pet adoption. Saw that it's
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Speaker 1: where the dogs pick you. Fuck that video.
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Speaker 2: We cried so hard watching that video. And then it
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Speaker 2: was like that's a I that sucks.
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Speaker 1: That sucks cause I was like, maybe I'll go to
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Speaker 1: this place and a dog will choose. No, it's not
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Speaker 1: fucking real. That sucks. Oh that was a bummer one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like I don't understand who is deciding
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Speaker 2: to do that with AI? What do you gain from
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Speaker 2: tricking everyone in this way?
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Speaker 1: People who don't have any creativity? Mm And now it's
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Speaker 1: like creativity is being commodified in such a way that
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Speaker 1: everyone wants to like participate in. Everyone wants to go viral,
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Speaker 1: everyone wants to go live and get money off of
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Speaker 1: TikTok or whatever. And if you don't have any creative instincts,
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Speaker 1: if you're not naturally funny or you don't you know,
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Speaker 1: do videos of you like cooking gourmet meals for your
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Speaker 1: dogs in a tiny dog sized kitchen. Like, if you
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Speaker 1: don't have that kind of innovation, then you get on
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Speaker 1: AI and you just like come up with something on
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Speaker 1: there because that's not your ministry. Dang savage, get them,
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Speaker 1: You're so right. I hate them. I hate them. You
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Speaker 1: know what? I hate two the fucking AI telenovelas on TikTok.
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Speaker 2: I'm anymore. Oh, plus, so I get all my videos.
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Speaker 2: I get all my videos a month late on reels.
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Speaker 2: That's literally yes, No, they're like those little Ton novellas.
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Speaker 2: Now I would be like she was a rich heiress
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Speaker 2: whose baby was switched by her husband to the mistress's
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Speaker 2: baby and then when the inheritors and I'm like, sometimes
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Speaker 2: I'll be watching I'm like, damn, this is crazy and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I? This is fucking AI.
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Speaker 1: I can't watch these like, dang, they're trying. They're really
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Speaker 1: trying to replace actors. They are, But are those actors
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Speaker 1: better than me?
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Speaker 3: And you?
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Speaker 1: No, come on, people consume slop. There's so much on television.
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Speaker 2: We're being trained to like that. Now, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: They're like, we'll give them whatever we feed them. They
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Speaker 1: have no choice.
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Speaker 2: God, we're little piggies in a trough. Now, damns, it's
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Speaker 2: your job.
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Speaker 1: On this pod. I'm trying. I'm doing my best. I'm
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Speaker 1: doing my absolute best. I'm trying to think of Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, the scam that is pissing me off right now.
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Speaker 1: Fucking way mos, Okay, they're a scam to me, they are.
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Speaker 1: I believe self driving car people have gotten locked inside
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Speaker 1: of them when they were trying to like get out
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Speaker 1: to their destination. They've been driving through like large, like
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Speaker 1: shallow banks of water because the weimo can't detect that
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Speaker 1: there's like a large amount of water that they're driving
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Speaker 1: doesn't know what water is when they drive down roads,
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Speaker 1: you know how sometimes you have to merge because there's
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Speaker 1: construction and there's like cones on the road. Can't see
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Speaker 1: the cone. So it was driving like it was on
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Speaker 1: a normal street, like just running over cones. One time
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Speaker 1: a girl got into a Weimo and there was a
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Speaker 1: man in the trunk. What do you mean? What do
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Speaker 1: you mean you get back? And he was like, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, they put me here. No way reread that article.
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Speaker 1: Wolds are supposed to like since if there's more than
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Speaker 1: one body in the car or whatever, there's like scanners.
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Speaker 1: You're basically didn't scan the whole time, and it's scanning
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Speaker 1: the road, And so it was hiding in the area
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Speaker 1: where I guess the scanner didn't like see him, and
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Speaker 1: so this girl got into the car. This is like
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Speaker 1: a new story. I checked it. It wasn't it. I
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Speaker 1: was the guy in trunk. I don't need to know
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Speaker 1: anything beyond it. I still don't know why he was
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Speaker 1: in the trunk.
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Speaker 2: You said they put me here. He said that, He
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Speaker 2: said who.
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Speaker 1: Put him there? That way? They put him there? They
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Speaker 1: they put him there. Dawn damn Way pulls up and
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Speaker 1: tells you to get in the trunk. What are you
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Speaker 1: gonna do? I mean, it's a machine. I'm scared the trunk.
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Speaker 1: Scared of it. I'll probably get are getting accidents, They're
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Speaker 1: holding up traffic.
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Speaker 2: They can go on the freeway, now, can you believe?
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Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen them on the freeway. It's terrifying should happen,
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, here's my biggest example of why I
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Speaker 1: don't think that we need them. Like, yes, human error
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Speaker 1: is like fucking huge as hell, but there's something that
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Speaker 1: the eyes can do. The brain can process that a
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Speaker 1: WAYMO can't do. Yeah, WEYMO can scan the area and
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Speaker 1: make sure you're not running into another car, you're staying
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Speaker 1: on the road or whatever. But one time I think
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Speaker 1: it was Ellie, you know Ellie Woods. Yeah, she had
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Speaker 1: posted on Facebook. So obviously this was years ago because
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Speaker 1: I don't read Facebook. Yeah, back in the engine. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's hear it hosted on the Book of Faces, Yes,
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Speaker 1: And I just so happened to see it, and she
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Speaker 1: was like, guys, please stop texting and driving. Whatever you're
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Speaker 1: looking at can absolutely wait, and it's not worth your life.
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Speaker 1: And I'm such an anxious person that if I see
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Speaker 1: an email pop up or if it's work or something,
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Speaker 1: I will like glance at it, or I will like
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Speaker 1: pick up my phone. And I remember I saw something
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Speaker 1: pop up on my phone from like my reps or something,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is probably important. And
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Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, Ellie said, don't text. That's
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Speaker 1: so sweet. And in that moment, I looked up. I
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Speaker 1: put my phone down and I looked back up. I
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Speaker 1: was like glancing down. Yeah. I looked back up and
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Speaker 1: I saw that there was like this. You know those
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Speaker 1: rinky dink like beat up, like forward like trucks that
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Speaker 1: are like they.
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Speaker 2: Have a back to them, like they have the kind
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Speaker 2: of rude description construction trucks, so they're constantly like hitting
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Speaker 2: shit or I can't getting danged up or whatever.
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Speaker 1: They're like the smaller ones. So I look up and
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Speaker 1: I see one has these like haphazard wind panes, like
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Speaker 1: stacks of window panes like haphazardly tied around the bed
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Speaker 1: of the truck. And I was like, oh, I need
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Speaker 1: to get out of this lane. And two seconds later,
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Speaker 1: I kidch not, I'm on the like one on one,
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Speaker 1: these window panes start flying off the back of the truck. Dang,
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Speaker 1: And if it was a way mo, I would have
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Speaker 1: just been get hit with window panes. Can't be like,
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Speaker 1: oh this is not a lane to be in, or
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Speaker 1: oh this person is driving recklessly, I should.
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Speaker 2: Move theremo doesn't know. Ali Woods wouldn't have saved saved
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Speaker 2: a life.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's why I hate them. I hate them too.
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Speaker 1: Get them out of here. I know we don't need them.
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Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing about and all this technology
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Speaker 1: that these tech bros are making them like this is
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Speaker 1: so innovative. We're like, nobody asked for this exactly, Like
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Speaker 1: what if we place everything you love with the machine
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Speaker 1: and then you do the stuff that you wait?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's how the pictuent, but
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Speaker 2: that is how it is manifesting in our daily lives.
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Speaker 1: Scarf God. But okay, let's get into the main of
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Speaker 1: big here, historic hoodwings. This is where I were Gail
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Speaker 1: Cama with a famous concaper group of criminals, singular scam artists.
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Speaker 1: We don't know, we don't know yet, and maybe we
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Speaker 1: love them, maybe we hate them, maybe we want them
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Speaker 1: way mode.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting with hate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah is that bad? I just started starting base level
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Speaker 1: hate is good? Good okay, yeah, yeah, and then maybe
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Speaker 1: you'll rise up to love. We'll see. So we're talking
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Speaker 1: about Owen Hanson. So Owen Hanson went from a beach
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Speaker 1: volleyball prodigy to USC football player to international drug dealer,
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Speaker 1: slash money launderer for the most powerful cartail in Mexico.
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Speaker 1: So I want to go back here. So this is Owen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing that, and this is I can I
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Speaker 2: just say, before we started, Jess was like, this guy
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Speaker 2: is hot. And now I'm looking at him. What do
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Speaker 2: we think here?
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Speaker 1: That is a thumb come to life? And my defense,
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Speaker 1: he gets hot as we go. Okay, okay, maybe just
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Speaker 1: because you told us before we started recording, just that
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Speaker 1: he was gonna be hot. And I'm looking at a
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Speaker 1: guy that's like he gets paid twenty bucks to stand
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Speaker 1: in a lineup like every week. Like his face is
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Speaker 1: so unremarkable.
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Speaker 2: I would like to take a needle and just stick
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Speaker 2: it in his side. Let a little bit of air out.
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Speaker 2: Then I think we'll be good, which is.
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Speaker 1: Kind of the air. Then we're good. You put a
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Speaker 1: little bit too much air in the tire. That's that guy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I can see his PSI is way too just way
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Speaker 1: too high. But so I love that he went from
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Speaker 1: beach volleyball prodigy to USC football player, which that's a
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Speaker 1: great football team, and then to like so these two
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Speaker 1: things like obviously he's a great athlete. Yeah, Like if
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Speaker 1: you can go from one sport to another that are
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Speaker 1: both very difficult, Like, okay, props to you. Now, how
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Speaker 1: do we jump to international drug dealer slash money laundering
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Speaker 1: for the most powerful cartel in Maxico. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I guess anyone gets desperate. Yeah, that was the USC
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Speaker 1: football player pipeline to like cartel.
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's just I don't know. It's like
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Speaker 2: last year, if the cartel approached me, I'd be like, sure,
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Speaker 2: there's no work in La. I guess I'm going to
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Speaker 2: a cartel.
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Speaker 1: You're prov at the cartel.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like that's maybe how he got there.
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Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of sport job to do.
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Speaker 1: Right, It's like you gotta take your sports skills to like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, murder for hire. You do have to
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Speaker 1: be very athletic. Yeah yeah, so maybe maybe. So he's
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Speaker 1: now the subject of the docuseries Cocaine Quarterback on Amazon,
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Speaker 1: so he already has a docuseries. Yeah, cocaine quarterback is
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Speaker 1: a great name. It's fine. It could mean so many things.
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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by cocaine. Before he was like throwing routes.
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, I guess yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is he quarterback in the cocaine They're like, he's our
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Speaker 1: best coke guy, Like.
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's why they named it that.
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Speaker 2: It's exactly blow Yeah, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, so Owen O Dog Hanson. Okay, oh Dog, I
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Speaker 1: hate O Dog. But he does have a body. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: okayes we let Samarra Letra in this photo and he
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Speaker 1: does have a body. Okay, Okay, I see him O Dog.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm only gonna let you get away
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Speaker 1: from having like the nickname O dog if you have
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Speaker 1: that many muscles, yeah, or.
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Speaker 2: If somebody else gave it to you and you can't
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Speaker 2: help it. But it feels like this guy decided himself.
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Speaker 2: Then it's like call me O dog.
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Speaker 1: He started floating it. Yeah that's what it is. It
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, hey, hey bro, my name's Owen, but
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Speaker 1: you can call me O dog. That's how you did it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's how you did it. Oh I love that. Wait,
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Speaker 1: what would be your like introduction name if you were
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Speaker 1: floating a nickname to if I was floating a nickname. Shoot, uh.
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Speaker 2: Cook, hang on, hang on, and we'll get something good.
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Speaker 2: All I can think of is cocaine and k dog.
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Speaker 2: I know I can't freaking get past it.
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Speaker 1: Does it have to coincide? Could I be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: my name is Lacy, but you can call me smoochy, Like,
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Speaker 1: oh that's cute, smoochy. That's smoochy over there. Okay, my
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Speaker 1: name is KIMMYA, but you can call me Kittie. I'm
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Speaker 1: so mad at this. Can we not do this exercise anymore? Oh?
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Speaker 1: My god? Not exercise? Yeah that was a name exercise.
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Speaker 1: It was little zipstepsop.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh I haven't done those in a while. We don't
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Speaker 1: need it. So o Dog grew up in Redondo Beach, California,
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Speaker 1: the son of construction worker dad who went through a
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Speaker 1: pretty rough divorce. So his dad got divorced, and you know,
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Speaker 1: that's like the most traumatic thing that's happened in most
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Speaker 1: privileged people's lives. And they're like, my parents got divorced
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Speaker 1: and and changed my life and it's all my trauma.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, that's the worst you got. I know,
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Speaker 1: I know that yourself. Yeah, there are trauma Olympics, It's true. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I hate when I see a post and it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I missing my mom today, and then someone in the
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Speaker 1: comments is like, oh, yes, I remember when I lost
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Speaker 1: my fourth cousin. I'm like, I think mom Trump's fourth cousin,
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Speaker 1: Mom Trump's grandma. Yes, yeah, yeah, like it came that's
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Speaker 1: your mom. I'm like, oh, I lost my cat the
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Speaker 1: other day. The cat is not people. No, cat does
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Speaker 1: not trump people, right.
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Speaker 2: I guess we're just trying to find community and share great.
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Speaker 1: And everyone is entitled to feel how they feel. But
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Speaker 1: there is a hierarchy. Yeah, you just can't know when
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Speaker 1: to be cool. So just kind of clocking.
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Speaker 2: If someone posts about their cousin, then you can talk
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Speaker 2: about your fourth cousin.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, that's cousin time. That's what we're saying. Yes, so
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Speaker 1: Owen stayed with his dad while his sister went away
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Speaker 1: to live with their mom. Ooh so they beefing, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: giving Miley cyrus like some people got some kids in divorce,
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Speaker 1: some people got.
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Speaker 2: Some other girls and boys splip, which like, Okay.
16:37
Speaker 1: I would rather live with my mom, even if I
16:40
Speaker 1: was a boy, because I just feel like the house
16:41
Speaker 1: is gonna be like the first going to be stopped.
16:43
Speaker 1: It's gonna be nicer, like she'll probably get But do
16:46
Speaker 1: you know what though, the advantage of living with the
16:48
Speaker 1: dad is he'll get you a new mom faster. He
16:52
Speaker 1: will go. Guys get divorced. They're like already on the apps.
16:55
Speaker 1: They haven't even signed the papers, Like you have a
16:57
Speaker 1: new mom in like forty eight hours. It's that as
17:00
Speaker 1: a bonus. It is because you know, those types of
17:05
Speaker 1: men are looking for a woman who's gonna support them,
17:08
Speaker 1: that trickle down support, that trickle down secretary step Mole. No,
17:13
Speaker 1: that's a good movie, Secretary step Mon, you can write that.
17:17
Speaker 1: You can have that. That put me in it. I'll
17:21
Speaker 1: I can't join the cartel, not right now. No, no, no, no.
17:25
Speaker 1: Hopefully this year is better. But if it's not, I
17:27
Speaker 1: mean I will go to the car. You know, like Kilos,
17:31
Speaker 1: I'm familiar. I feel like I could do a good job.
17:34
Speaker 1: I could be a personality higher for the cartel. That's good.
17:37
Speaker 2: I can just kind of move it stuff in the
17:39
Speaker 2: stock room. I feel like I'm really focused on one task.
17:42
Speaker 1: I could just sort out the drugs. I feel like
17:44
Speaker 1: that's how you don't get murders. That's nice. Now you
17:47
Speaker 1: might have to do any of your underwear because I
17:49
Speaker 1: think they don't want you to be stealing. Oh that's fine.
17:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, they meet me and know that this person will
17:55
Speaker 2: never touch the drugs.
17:57
Speaker 1: Maybe do like, yeah, that's true. Talk to him for
18:00
Speaker 1: two seconds. They're like, are you sure it's giving like
18:04
Speaker 1: upper level management. Yes, Like you got a clipboard for
18:07
Speaker 1: the drugs.
18:08
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you need wet wear, got it?
18:10
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I definitely would probably try to steal the drugs.
18:13
Speaker 1: I feel like they would know that about me. Like,
18:15
Speaker 1: so I feel like I need to be in like
18:16
Speaker 1: the leaves process, like when it's not the drug yet.
18:19
Speaker 2: When marketing, you're gonna be a chemist. You're making the
18:22
Speaker 2: drug good. God, you gotta go back to school for that.
18:26
Speaker 1: So Owen goes with the dad, and Owen slept on
18:30
Speaker 1: the top bunk with a renter sleeping on the bottom
18:34
Speaker 1: bunk so his dad could make some extra cash. See
18:37
Speaker 1: this is what I said about going a little bit
18:38
Speaker 1: of your dad. Now you got you underneath the border.
18:42
Speaker 1: It's giving. Hey, Arnold, Like why so many people in
18:45
Speaker 1: their own rooms in hey, Arnold, that's true. That's true.
18:48
Speaker 1: They did. And how you gonna have your son sharing
18:52
Speaker 1: a room with a renter? You don't know these renters.
18:54
Speaker 1: Who's this renter who's like, yeah, I'll sleep under your
18:57
Speaker 1: And then oh yeah, how are you putting that in craigslist?
19:00
Speaker 1: I hate this bed for rent Son is upstairs bed neighbor?
19:05
Speaker 1: What God?
19:06
Speaker 2: This guy's kind of a hero. Now that I know
19:08
Speaker 2: he ends up like on USC football through all.
19:10
Speaker 1: That, I'm kind of not mad at it. So his
19:13
Speaker 1: parents divorce sent Owen into a spiral, and we and
19:21
Speaker 1: we feel that spiral for you. We do as a
19:25
Speaker 1: California kid, beach volleyball became his drug. He says, I
19:30
Speaker 1: didn't drink, I didn't do drugs. I slept with my
19:33
Speaker 1: volleyball above his bed. Neighbor. Yeah all right, he left
19:37
Speaker 1: that part out put in this. So imagine being the
19:41
Speaker 1: below deck neighbor and it's like you got somebody sleeping
19:43
Speaker 1: like they cast away with like Wilson just up there. Yeah,
19:49
Speaker 1: are you taking the volleyball to bed? Every night? Okay?
19:51
Speaker 1: Oh no, whatever you gotta do to survive. So volleyball
19:55
Speaker 1: went pretty well for him. By high school, he was
19:57
Speaker 1: six foot three and I had a thirty seven inch
20:01
Speaker 1: vertical jump, which is really hot. Sure the average vertical
20:05
Speaker 1: jump for a man, if you don't know, is twenty inches.
20:08
Speaker 1: Oh wow, then yeah that's high. That's how we always
20:11
Speaker 1: joke about in the Olympics, we need one regular person
20:13
Speaker 1: next to all the human people so we can actually
20:15
Speaker 1: gauge how how aggressive that is. Yeah. They need that
20:18
Speaker 1: in basketball too, because I hate like when i I'll
20:21
Speaker 1: sometimes click on like sports fans guys who are like
20:24
Speaker 1: really up in arms and like tweeting at Lebron or
20:27
Speaker 1: tweeting at kid you know whoever, and like look at
20:30
Speaker 1: their physique and like look at them, and I'm like,
20:32
Speaker 1: you could never do what they do. Yeah, you are
20:35
Speaker 1: not entitled doing a penny totally. I just think if
20:38
Speaker 1: you can't do it, you should shut up. Hmm.
20:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's their fandom. What else are they gonna
20:42
Speaker 2: yell about. They're mad at somebody else, but they're yelling
20:44
Speaker 2: at KD.
20:45
Speaker 1: Someone said sports fans are just like K pop fans
20:47
Speaker 1: in a different fun they are. Yeah, yes, it's true.
20:51
Speaker 1: The way I feel about the WNBA is how my
20:53
Speaker 1: friend feels about k pop. Yeah, I know, I got it. Yeah,
20:57
Speaker 1: it's a sand cam. Yeah, it's the freaking say So
21:01
Speaker 1: he got this vertical, right, he's got all this volleyball talent.
21:03
Speaker 1: This got him a volleyball scholarship to USC, which is,
21:07
Speaker 1: you don't know, the University of Southern California. So I
21:13
Speaker 1: just kind of no, it's fine, I'm glad you did it.
21:16
Speaker 1: They would be disappointed if you did it. Yeah, yeah,
21:18
Speaker 1: I had to do it. So it's a school for
21:20
Speaker 1: like the rich kids of celebrities, you know, who didn't
21:23
Speaker 1: get into IVS, and later, you know, it would become
21:27
Speaker 1: the primary site for the Varsity Blues scandal, which, if
21:30
Speaker 1: you don't know, was like rich people and celebrities were
21:32
Speaker 1: bribing coaching staff or they were like bribing tutors who
21:36
Speaker 1: were really good at taking the SAT into like cheating
21:38
Speaker 1: on the SAT for their kids and all that stuff.
21:40
Speaker 1: So if you don't remember Varsity Blues, we have a
21:42
Speaker 1: great episode on it. It's super fun because these people
21:44
Speaker 1: are crazy. Yep. So Owen would never have thought going
21:48
Speaker 1: to USC without a scholarship, right because he's like on
21:52
Speaker 1: the top bunk of his debt. You know, he don't
21:54
Speaker 1: got money. Yeah, Unfortunately, when he got there, the volleyball
21:59
Speaker 1: coach threatened to cut him from the team if he
22:02
Speaker 1: didn't improve his strength and vertical jump. So remember he
22:05
Speaker 1: couldn't go there without a scholarship, so volleyball is for
22:08
Speaker 1: him to live. Yeah, totally, he living off the ball.
22:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, improve it more than didn't we already say.
22:13
Speaker 1: He's like, I got a crazy impressivert. I guess it
22:17
Speaker 1: was for high school, but then he got to USC
22:19
Speaker 1: top tier athlete.
22:20
Speaker 2: Athletes are tough, man. Once you hit the top, everyone's like, no,
22:23
Speaker 2: there's more.
22:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could keep going. No, sorry you were He
22:26
Speaker 1: were in a barrel, babes. This is this is the
22:29
Speaker 1: ocean and sucks. Okay, yeah you're krill babes. We got
22:33
Speaker 1: whales out here. Oh my god. Stress so stressful. So
22:37
Speaker 1: that makes me feel bad for him because I really
22:39
Speaker 1: want him to be able to get his school. So
22:42
Speaker 1: he could have really like hit the gym, but instead
22:45
Speaker 1: he hit up his Mexican friends from Redonno, including one particular. Okay,
22:52
Speaker 1: keep going, I couldn't hit the gym. But then he's like,
22:56
Speaker 1: that's such a funny sentence. I hit up my Mexican friends.
22:59
Speaker 1: And because making me jump higher. I'm jumping high enough, bitch.
23:05
Speaker 1: So one of his friends in particular, whose name was Spanky, Yeah, Spanky,
23:11
Speaker 1: took Owen to Tijuana to a veterinarian where they bought
23:16
Speaker 1: steroids to smuggle back to the US. Okay, this is
23:19
Speaker 1: sun a thread for me. Now, this is starting to
23:21
Speaker 1: make sense. Why Spanky. He was like, I don't want
23:24
Speaker 1: to hit the gym, Spanky, can we go get these
23:26
Speaker 1: roids from Tijuana? Right from a vetids? Yeah? Yuck. So
23:33
Speaker 1: Owen got the drugs across the border in his booty crack. No,
23:38
Speaker 1: not the hole, okay crack?
23:41
Speaker 2: Fine, Okay, so they were cleaner, Okay, I mean are
23:44
Speaker 2: they just for him?
23:45
Speaker 1: It's fine. He could put it on his buttons and
23:47
Speaker 1: take it. He's very insistent on this in the documentary
23:51
Speaker 1: that don't say it was booty whole was, yes, I
23:55
Speaker 1: don't know homo smuggle drugs and be like pause, noh,
24:00
Speaker 1: Like they're smuggling in this booty hole and booty crack,
24:03
Speaker 1: they're right there. It absolutely wasn't his hole. Then it
24:06
Speaker 1: had to have been because he's saying he's why is
24:09
Speaker 1: he saying it so much that they weren't Yeah, they were.
24:13
Speaker 1: It was probably like there were probably some overflowing the crack,
24:16
Speaker 1: but yes, So this successful smuggling experience gave Owen a
24:24
Speaker 1: high that he continued to chase for the rest of
24:26
Speaker 1: his life. M hmm, I'm sure. Will you put steroids
24:29
Speaker 1: in an orifice? You getting quite that high? Right? Jeez?
24:37
Speaker 1: So the butt steroids got Owen so jacks that one
24:41
Speaker 1: of the coaches for the USC football team noticed his
24:44
Speaker 1: muscles and asked him to try out for the team,
24:46
Speaker 1: even though he had never thrown a football in his life. Dang,
24:50
Speaker 1: so a coach saw him.
24:51
Speaker 2: Was like, man, sometimes you just need to be a
24:53
Speaker 2: big boy for sport. Is that kind of a bummer? Yeah,
24:57
Speaker 2: want to think about or I'm like, okay, wait.
24:59
Speaker 1: Is that is Is that the same for women?
25:01
Speaker 2: I guess you could be tall and then they're like
25:02
Speaker 2: play the basketball coordinated. You still have to coordinate. Sometimes
25:06
Speaker 2: being a big boy in football is just you kind
25:08
Speaker 2: of got to stand there and ram yourself into another guy.
25:10
Speaker 1: That my football too much. But I feel like there's
25:15
Speaker 1: probably some like volleyball people who are just super tall
25:18
Speaker 1: and like you try to spike it over the net
25:19
Speaker 1: and they're just like no, like they just raise their hands.
25:23
Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm just so small. I'm so jealous, I know.
25:27
Speaker 1: I mean, athleticism is just it's luck. Man, it's luck.
25:31
Speaker 1: You get it or you don't. You can work real
25:32
Speaker 1: hard at it, but sometimes you're just never going to
25:35
Speaker 1: get there. That's so that's why I miss middle school sports,
25:39
Speaker 1: because they really started to weed out the dululus and
25:41
Speaker 1: the people whose parents were like pushing them into sports
25:44
Speaker 1: trying to relive their like high school fantasies. And then like,
25:48
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but like I tried to
25:49
Speaker 1: play basketball. Yes, I also tried. I auditioned. See I'm
25:56
Speaker 1: going to say auditions for the basketball team. That's not
25:58
Speaker 1: what you do. You don't audition for you try it. Yes,
26:00
Speaker 1: so I know I shouldn't be there, So I have
26:02
Speaker 1: basketball auditions today. Oh, Lacey. I was like, let me
26:05
Speaker 1: watch some high school musical and get prepared now. And
26:09
Speaker 1: they did the nicest thing though, Like when all the
26:12
Speaker 1: tryouts were done, they had like three different teams, right,
26:15
Speaker 1: and they had the varsity, the jv and then like
26:18
Speaker 1: the looses, the backup street. We didn't have the third
26:21
Speaker 1: team like we just had Okay, it was just the two.
26:28
Speaker 1: Then okay, that makes you feel better. Ye. But when
26:32
Speaker 1: the tryouts were over, they handed you a letter and
26:35
Speaker 1: so everyone got a letter. They didn't put it up
26:37
Speaker 1: on the board to try to embarrass your ass. They
26:38
Speaker 1: handed you a letter and then you left, went home
26:41
Speaker 1: and opened your letter on the bus so you could cry.
26:44
Speaker 1: And I didn't cry, but I was like, I'm not
26:47
Speaker 1: gonna get in and I opened it and was like yeah,
26:50
Speaker 1: I figured. Yeah, so you know, we can't all be Owen.
26:54
Speaker 1: We can't all be Odob. He became a walk on
26:57
Speaker 1: for the football team in two thousand and three as
26:59
Speaker 1: a tight end. Like you said, big boy, he wasn't
27:02
Speaker 1: a quarterback, even though the docu series called him cocaine quarterback.
27:05
Speaker 1: That just hit different, like cocaine tight end feels like
27:08
Speaker 1: something else what he doesn't want when he doesn't he
27:11
Speaker 1: doesn't want us to think about it. That is, I mean,
27:15
Speaker 1: cocaine tightened. If you know, you know, damn, that's a
27:19
Speaker 1: deep cup for some days. So they'll know. You can
27:24
Speaker 1: google it, but I don't recommend googling it. Just just
27:26
Speaker 1: ask a friend. So Owen's teammates included lots of future
27:32
Speaker 1: pro NFL players like Matt Lyonheart and Reggie bush I
27:37
Speaker 1: heard of that one. Yes, we've all heard of it.
27:39
Speaker 1: I mean because of Kim K. Is that why you
27:41
Speaker 1: heard of Reggie Busher? Because the heisman or because they
27:43
Speaker 1: took the heismand back because I gave it back to
27:44
Speaker 1: him later.
27:45
Speaker 2: I think it's just because of Wendy's commercials. Is unfortunate
27:49
Speaker 2: Wendy's commercial.
27:51
Speaker 1: Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guy. Oh look
27:53
Speaker 1: at that. So that's really see that's him with Kim K.
27:57
Speaker 1: They dated, Yeah, they did, Okay, So for her, listen,
28:02
Speaker 1: she's seen everybody. Huh, she's listen. She's trying every flavor,
28:07
Speaker 1: Like at the basket rob she is like maybe an athlete,
28:09
Speaker 1: maybe a comedian, you know, maybe a smart guy, maybe
28:13
Speaker 1: a dumb guy. You know. I love it. So like
28:17
Speaker 1: on the volleyball team, Owen didn't actually play very much,
28:20
Speaker 1: but the partying was epic. Of course it was because
28:22
Speaker 1: people are like superstars. They're on national television every day
28:26
Speaker 1: and people are watching these games. So while partying with
28:28
Speaker 1: the team in Vegas, Owen met UFC fighter Chuck Ladell
28:33
Speaker 1: and a man named Tank, who would also become a
28:37
Speaker 1: close friend of Owen's I feel like if your name
28:40
Speaker 1: is Tank, okay, so is that Chuck? That's just Chuck?
28:43
Speaker 1: Nice Chuck. What's happening here? That's what I thought he'd like.
28:47
Speaker 1: It's like he had a mohawk, but they drew it
28:50
Speaker 1: on with a pencil. Like it's so much head left
28:53
Speaker 1: over on each side, like too much head? Like, what's happening?
28:58
Speaker 3: Uh?
28:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great hairstyle. Is his beard a different color?
29:03
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's maybe normal. No eyebrows though, No, no eyebrows.
29:07
Speaker 1: He doesn't need those. Okay, there's a lot going on
29:09
Speaker 1: with his head. It's a little roeblockx y, but you
29:12
Speaker 1: know what, good for him? And then we have Tank okay,
29:16
Speaker 1: and just Tank have an Angelina Joey tattoo. No, that's
29:19
Speaker 1: gotta be a family member.
29:21
Speaker 2: It looks like Angeline now he does not to me. Okay,
29:24
Speaker 2: wait in the comments.
29:26
Speaker 1: It could be a poorly drawn Angelina in every tattoo
29:29
Speaker 1: a Angelina. Okay, this it could be. Yes, this guy
29:36
Speaker 1: definitely looks roided up like Tank. Yeah on, look at
29:39
Speaker 1: that hairline. He'd be doing rolling dang. You know he
29:42
Speaker 1: get up every day air fighting. It's several holes in
29:45
Speaker 1: the in the walls of his house. What just from
29:49
Speaker 1: mild inconveniences? Okay, just from punching, I got you. He's
29:53
Speaker 1: like on hold too long with his cables, bitch.
30:07
Speaker 3: Run.
30:09
Speaker 1: So Tank had a better hookup for performance enhancing drugs
30:12
Speaker 1: than the booty booty than the veterinarian in Mexica. Yeah okay,
30:19
Speaker 1: So Tank took Owen up, and Owen became the unofficial
30:23
Speaker 1: team doctor for the USC football players and other sports too,
30:28
Speaker 1: providing illegal drugs for players who were injured or wanted
30:31
Speaker 1: an extra boost or needed add or all to stay
30:34
Speaker 1: awake in class. So I love that he's the unofficial
30:37
Speaker 1: team doctor. Like what a class? Yeah exactly. Doctor. Also
30:43
Speaker 1: turn out USC treating so hard, so hard?
30:46
Speaker 2: I bet, I bet you I did this too.
30:48
Speaker 1: But I love this branding. Like I call scammers who
30:51
Speaker 1: like are him in different fields, they're serial entrepreneurs or
30:54
Speaker 1: if you sell drugs, you're a street pharmacists. So I
30:57
Speaker 1: love that he's the unofficial USC doctor with adderall and
31:02
Speaker 1: non booty whole roots ye and illegal drugs if so,
31:07
Speaker 1: whatever you needed. Basically, I love that the USC football
31:12
Speaker 1: team won the National Championship Game in two thousand and
31:15
Speaker 1: five and they were on top of the world. Wow.
31:18
Speaker 1: Owen didn't play in the game, but his dad did
31:20
Speaker 1: see him on TV during the celebration after the win.
31:25
Speaker 1: That's sweet for his dad. He was probably sitting in
31:28
Speaker 1: his bunk bed like full circle moment. Yes boy, that's
31:32
Speaker 1: my boy to his bed roommate. Yes, that's my boy.
31:43
Speaker 1: So what does a former collegiate athlete drug dealer do
31:47
Speaker 1: when he graduates and isn't good enough to play in
31:49
Speaker 1: the NFL while his friends went off to play pro football?
31:53
Speaker 1: Owen started Owen sells dot com. Oh okay, he got
31:57
Speaker 1: he went and registered to domain. What do you think
32:01
Speaker 1: he's gonna be selling. It's drugs, right, come on, selling
32:05
Speaker 1: real estate? No, he's I should have guessed better. I
32:10
Speaker 1: could have got there. Yeah, but that was just in
32:14
Speaker 1: time for the real estate crash of two thousand and seven.
32:17
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, I.
32:19
Speaker 2: Mean this thinks you're not working out for.
32:21
Speaker 1: Wasn't and this is the economy. This is a millennial story. O.
32:24
Speaker 1: Dog was really pulling himself up by his bootstraps. He
32:27
Speaker 1: went from like bunkmate neighbors to like, you know, prestigious
32:32
Speaker 1: school athlete to another Prestigiou school football team at the
32:34
Speaker 1: same you know university. Now he's got the Booty drugs.
32:38
Speaker 1: Now he's upgraded from the booty drugs to the you know,
32:40
Speaker 1: tank drugs, and now he's a USC unofficial team doctor.
32:46
Speaker 1: And then he tries to do Owen Sales, which is
32:48
Speaker 1: definitely what I would think about for real estate, Like
32:51
Speaker 1: I think when I Google real estate, that comes up
32:53
Speaker 1: number one for sure Owen sells. Yeah, sure, yeah, because
32:56
Speaker 1: it's a great name for like a real estate company.
32:58
Speaker 1: So that he's pivoting. Guess what he pivots to, Oh god,
33:03
Speaker 1: I don't know.
33:04
Speaker 2: No, wait, you're gonna okay, so I'm gonna give a
33:06
Speaker 2: good guess. He pivots to building furniture.
33:11
Speaker 1: Wow, how wholesome like Jesus. Yeah, No, he pivoted to
33:15
Speaker 1: being a bookie. Oh okay, of course.
33:18
Speaker 2: And now looking at this photo that we've got up,
33:20
Speaker 2: that's the most booky looking man.
33:22
Speaker 1: That man definitely looked like he's booking, yeah, booking everything.
33:25
Speaker 1: And he breaking legs. You just know he got a
33:28
Speaker 1: tire ride in his car at all times.
33:30
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean his head is in the shape of
33:32
Speaker 2: a pin. Also, just he did not get harder.
33:35
Speaker 1: I will.
33:36
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, it's just this picture with Tank just.
33:39
Speaker 1: Kind of that you kind of like his smile there
33:41
Speaker 1: and and just I don't even know if he's hot
33:43
Speaker 1: there because he's wearing so much man makeup. He's got
33:46
Speaker 1: on the hat with the brim turn backwards so we
33:48
Speaker 1: can't see the foe his size. He got these huge
33:50
Speaker 1: ass chades on so we can't see the eyebows. And
33:52
Speaker 1: then they're given dead in the face. We're only getting
33:55
Speaker 1: lower half. It's like a reverse COVID mask on the
33:57
Speaker 1: top of his face is gone, and we just get
33:59
Speaker 1: to a man and everything else. So maybe it was
34:02
Speaker 1: a smiling ab you just smiling Abs. Just it was
34:05
Speaker 1: just smiling Abs. I do miss that in COVID days,
34:09
Speaker 1: where you could like see people out in their masks
34:11
Speaker 1: and their eyes would beautiful and you just like imagine
34:14
Speaker 1: what their face looks like. I missed this.
34:16
Speaker 2: I don't miss the COVID and I don't miss this
34:23
Speaker 2: part where you could just oh, my, guess the rest
34:26
Speaker 2: of the.
34:26
Speaker 1: Grocery store and just like looked at people's eyes like
34:28
Speaker 1: I didn't look they look like they could be hot.
34:31
Speaker 1: But then sometimes they would like take the mask off.
34:34
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a stressful part. You're like, dang,
34:37
Speaker 1: it does really matter? Half of the face do so much?
34:41
Speaker 1: And I would argue it's like how you cut something
34:44
Speaker 1: through the cinner? Like what would that be like for
34:47
Speaker 1: y'all out here listening, Like you know how you can cut?
34:51
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Symmetry? You're trying to describe symmetry? No,
34:54
Speaker 1: but I mean just like slicing it in half. I
34:56
Speaker 1: got you, yeah, but from like top to bottom here
35:00
Speaker 1: you go. Gosh, took me a while to get there.
35:03
Speaker 1: I really need to eat something, Jesus. I was like, no,
35:06
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, no, I got you. Yeah,
35:09
Speaker 1: you know Pythagora in theory and then try it. Okay,
35:12
Speaker 1: you got so horizontal. I feel like that's the cut
35:14
Speaker 1: is like horizontal, that's where it matters. Yeah, but that's
35:17
Speaker 1: a good scam for y'all. Cover up that top half.
35:19
Speaker 1: If the bottom half doing something for people, you know,
35:21
Speaker 1: he's a good scam for you all. I hope you
35:25
Speaker 1: find love, right, you know, which time of your face
35:27
Speaker 1: is the good part? Put that on your apps. This
35:31
Speaker 1: guy has no bottom part of his face on his app.
35:33
Speaker 1: It's just eyes.
35:34
Speaker 2: It could be the mystery is what pulled you in?
35:37
Speaker 1: Right? Oh, so he had observed bookies at parties in Vegas.
35:43
Speaker 1: This is some one and he thought he had what
35:46
Speaker 1: it took to do it given his sports background. So
35:49
Speaker 1: I love that he was inspired by these bookies. He
35:52
Speaker 1: was like, this looks like something like that's what I'm
35:53
Speaker 1: talking about. Representation matters, you know. Has he even had
35:56
Speaker 1: the Bookie outfit? Yes, yes, and Bookie so on betodog
36:03
Speaker 1: dot com. He is registering domains. Yeah, he's like, I know,
36:08
Speaker 1: go daddy, hate to see him coming.
36:09
Speaker 2: That's really millennial too, right, just like making sure you
36:12
Speaker 2: got your domain lockdown.
36:14
Speaker 1: And that's like one of my favorite things about millennials
36:17
Speaker 1: right now. Trolling this administration is like because they're so boomerish,
36:21
Speaker 1: they don't realize like when you start something, you need
36:24
Speaker 1: to like buy the donat name. So like when Trump
36:27
Speaker 1: slapped his name on the Kennedy Center, they didn't get
36:29
Speaker 1: the donat the domain, and they did when somebody did,
36:32
Speaker 1: someone bought it. So now they can't get it.
36:34
Speaker 2: That's right, I bet you a millennial freedom fighter.
36:36
Speaker 1: It has to be, you know, it's us. Shout out
36:39
Speaker 1: to Tom for MySpace he taught us had a code
36:41
Speaker 1: a little bit, and we're using it for good. Now
36:43
Speaker 1: we might not be coming outside, but we were using
36:46
Speaker 1: it for good. Yeah. So betodog dot com is where
36:50
Speaker 1: Owen took big sports bets from shadowy characters online. He
36:55
Speaker 1: opened an office in Costa Rica. Okay, why are you
36:58
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica? Oh? Dog, know you anywhere? I don't
37:01
Speaker 1: even understand. So, and he had an enforcer name Cobra.
37:06
Speaker 2: Okay, his friends have fun nicknames, all of them.
37:10
Speaker 1: And so Cobra is like a six foot six tall
37:15
Speaker 1: blood blood uh, like he in the gang. That's what
37:20
Speaker 1: I were talking about. That's what I think. That means
37:23
Speaker 1: who could intimidate betters who lost and didn't pay up?
37:27
Speaker 1: So I actually thought that old dog was gonna be
37:29
Speaker 1: breaking the legs. But he's got Cobra for that sure.
37:33
Speaker 1: And if you tell me Cobra like that name always
37:35
Speaker 1: scares me me too. The health insurance is really expensive.
37:38
Speaker 1: That scares me. That Cobra a snake. Cobra scares me.
37:42
Speaker 1: Cora give us fourth Cora. Isn't there a liquor named
37:49
Speaker 1: Cobra two or something? Damn? That probably is. That ship's
37:51
Speaker 1: probably so nasty and scary. That's scary, Cobra. If you
37:55
Speaker 1: want to die, you're so right, Okay, Cobra is scary
37:58
Speaker 1: all the way. One of Owen's most lucrative clients was
38:01
Speaker 1: a prominent member of a Mexican cartel who was regularly
38:05
Speaker 1: losing one hundred thousand dollars a week until finally he
38:09
Speaker 1: hit a five leg par lay and won two hundred
38:13
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. And like, parlays are hard because
38:15
Speaker 1: it's like you have to bet a lot of specific
38:18
Speaker 1: things and they all have to happen in that one
38:20
Speaker 1: game for you to win. So like you could say, like, oh,
38:24
Speaker 1: Katie is gonna leave in the first half and they're
38:28
Speaker 1: not on the same team, which y'all knows whatever sports,
38:31
Speaker 1: But then Lebron's gonna score exactly forty six points and
38:35
Speaker 1: you know somebody going trip and fall at third half.
38:38
Speaker 1: Like you put all these things together and you hit
38:40
Speaker 1: that parley pays the biggest because it's like so hard
38:43
Speaker 1: to make that bet. Yeah, that's crazy. So you know,
38:46
Speaker 1: we got the Mexican cartel guy, he's been losing one
38:49
Speaker 1: hundred k a week. He finally he up two hundred
38:51
Speaker 1: and twenty k one paid up quickly, which the cartel
38:54
Speaker 1: boss appreciated. Okay, I feel like cartel bosses love it
38:58
Speaker 1: when you pay them their money on time. Yeah, that
39:00
Speaker 1: sounds right. I think that's a staple of the cartel.
39:02
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, they don't like NET nineties, NET
39:05
Speaker 1: forty fives, NET thirties. No, you need to pay mm hmm.
39:08
Speaker 1: So the boss sent Owen an encrypted foam basically a
39:13
Speaker 1: phantom BlackBerry with untraceable communication. The boss asked Owen to
39:18
Speaker 1: pick up a package of one million dollars in Brownsville, Texas.
39:22
Speaker 1: I ain't never got a million going through Brownsville, Texas too.
39:24
Speaker 1: I'm let me get back to Texas. Yeah, what can
39:28
Speaker 1: you do? I could write, I could go to the USPS.
39:32
Speaker 1: I can definitely do that. So he asked him to
39:34
Speaker 1: pick up his package of a million dollars in exchange
39:36
Speaker 1: for one hundred thousand dollars fee, so he gets a
39:38
Speaker 1: little cut of the million if he picks it up.
39:41
Speaker 1: Owen flew to Texas with tank naturally to pick up
39:45
Speaker 1: a duffel bag full of money from a gardener. And
39:48
Speaker 1: that's how Owen started working for the cartel. Oh and
39:52
Speaker 1: look at that look at Tank in him, like, and
39:54
Speaker 1: is that the duffel bag on their shoulder? Right? They
39:56
Speaker 1: look so whimsical. They looks so tan like Tank looks
39:59
Speaker 1: so tan. Yeah, look at them. They're thriving currently, Tanks
40:03
Speaker 1: starting to look like the singer Tank. They're the black one. Like,
40:06
Speaker 1: how Tank did you get? Who's the singer Tank? You
40:09
Speaker 1: dot heard the Tank? You know? I don't know music. Yeah,
40:11
Speaker 1: it's true. People know. We'll put a picture of Tank
40:14
Speaker 1: in there for the references for Kimma those like kim
40:17
Speaker 1: I'll look it up, so putting the cartel before the
40:23
Speaker 1: who that's Tank?
40:24
Speaker 2: Oh?
40:24
Speaker 1: That does look like Tank?
40:25
Speaker 2: Right, Well, look at the Tank and Tank maybe because
40:29
Speaker 2: they're both just not smiling or something.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, way better looking. I'm not gonna do like that
40:33
Speaker 1: Tank definitely, But he's also Tank, our enforcer. Tank is
40:37
Speaker 1: wearing the man makeup on top. So that's what's giving
40:40
Speaker 1: the so. Owen trafficked cocaine, meth, ecstasy, and heroin in
40:48
Speaker 1: the US, Mexico, Canada, and Australia while still running his
40:53
Speaker 1: illegal offshore betting business. Okay, you are a busy man,
40:57
Speaker 1: Owen Owen, you are are you? Aren't you tired?
41:01
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that this guy's just been running
41:03
Speaker 2: and running.
41:04
Speaker 1: Like if Owen's got a girlfriend or a boyfriend or
41:06
Speaker 1: you know, just a partner in general. He comes home
41:08
Speaker 1: from crime every day like babe, just just put the
41:11
Speaker 1: genner on and let me watch the sports. And he decompressed,
41:14
Speaker 1: like you got too much crime? Go a lot going on?
41:17
Speaker 1: I know. Australia was where he ran into a problem though.
41:22
Speaker 1: The cartel boss, who he never named, asked if he
41:26
Speaker 1: knew anyone in Australia. Owen didn't, so he got himself
41:29
Speaker 1: an apartment in Sydney and moved down there. He said,
41:32
Speaker 1: let me go, Mingle, let me go.
41:33
Speaker 2: He's really doing whatever for this cartel guy.
41:36
Speaker 1: Hell, I mean when you get involved with the cartel guy, Yeah,
41:40
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of one of those jobs
41:42
Speaker 1: for life, Like termination is the termination of your life. Dang. Yeah,
41:47
Speaker 1: Like like you don't meet with HR, you meet with
41:51
Speaker 1: the lord. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, that's fair, guys. Your
41:56
Speaker 1: onboarding paperwator off the boat boarding paperwork, right yep. So
42:02
Speaker 1: his apartment became the shipping destination for DHL packages full
42:06
Speaker 1: of cocaine. He had no problems selling it and Australian
42:09
Speaker 1: prices for cocaine are three times higher than in the
42:12
Speaker 1: US due to how hard it is to get it
42:14
Speaker 1: in the country. But his apartment was filled with millions
42:17
Speaker 1: of dollars in cash and he couldn't figure out how
42:20
Speaker 1: to get it back to the cartel, so he was
42:23
Speaker 1: selling it over to the Aussis obviously, like cocaine is.
42:26
Speaker 1: Like you can drive to get cocaine in the States, okay,
42:30
Speaker 1: but in Australia. I don't know any of this. I'm
42:33
Speaker 1: following you, you know, obviously, Kimmy. I remember when we
42:35
Speaker 1: drove the buts and yeah, he came back, okay. So
42:42
Speaker 1: now he's not out his cash, though, how does he
42:44
Speaker 1: get it back? I don't know.
42:45
Speaker 2: He's got to like buy something and he's got to
42:48
Speaker 2: launder it. Am I close?
42:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're close. So he couldn't get on a plane
42:53
Speaker 1: with a suitcase full of cash, right, and he couldn't
42:55
Speaker 1: open a bank account because they would need his passport.
42:58
Speaker 1: And then once they have your pass where I know
43:00
Speaker 1: this for a fact from changing over money, once you
43:03
Speaker 1: get to a certain amount of money, you cannot change
43:05
Speaker 1: over anymore. You can go to any exchange center in
43:08
Speaker 1: the city in the country and they will run your
43:10
Speaker 1: passport and be like, oh, we've given you enough cash,
43:13
Speaker 1: like we're not giving you anymore.
43:14
Speaker 2: Okay, So he's in it.
43:16
Speaker 1: He's kind of in a like a little like he's
43:18
Speaker 1: got a problem right now, right How is he going
43:21
Speaker 1: to move this money back? So he tried hiding the
43:24
Speaker 1: money in gold Boo Yon and the Souls of hollowed
43:28
Speaker 1: out ug boots, one of Australia's biggest exports, and shipping
43:31
Speaker 1: them to Mexico. But it wasn't going fast enough because
43:34
Speaker 1: how much gold can you get in the ugboot? Ug
43:36
Speaker 1: Buddhism light shoe.
43:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really can't do much. Why don't you pick
43:40
Speaker 2: a Doc Martin because they're not an Australia thing.
43:43
Speaker 1: Oh yeah they're not. Because I'm like, yeah, you're right,
43:46
Speaker 1: Like uggs are just too light. If I pick up
43:48
Speaker 1: a ug and it's like like I know something, something
43:51
Speaker 1: is wrong, it's supposed to be a cloud. That's like
43:54
Speaker 1: the whole part of the book. But sure, So he
43:57
Speaker 1: ended up contacting a professional gambling and a weird media personality,
44:02
Speaker 1: Robin Hood seven oh two. Nobody has a real name here,
44:05
Speaker 1: that's how we know, y'all all do crime. That's right.
44:07
Speaker 1: So this is Robin Hood Vegas. It's Robinhood's seven o two.
44:10
Speaker 2: And gambler, activist, philanthropist. Okay, Robinhood, Okay, so what he's
44:18
Speaker 2: taking money, he's doing scams and given to the people
44:20
Speaker 2: who need money.
44:21
Speaker 1: I kind of like his bio says, I try every
44:24
Speaker 1: day to change the world for the better. For him.
44:27
Speaker 1: With crime followers, he's not really getting they need too many.
44:31
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be out there too much because
44:33
Speaker 1: then they're gonna catch him.
44:34
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I love that.
44:36
Speaker 1: He like he's the seven hundred and second Robinhood. Like
44:39
Speaker 1: or is that like his area code? Maybe?
44:42
Speaker 2: Oh is that the Vegas area code?
44:43
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. Maybe that's what or from No.
44:46
Speaker 2: I'm not My parents just moved there, okaycs I guess
44:50
Speaker 2: now they live there.
44:51
Speaker 1: But that's it. Oh there it is. You know that.
44:54
Speaker 1: I love a crab table. So he I just remember
44:58
Speaker 1: from all the ads in Vegas, like that'll be like
45:00
Speaker 1: call me now, hot girls, and they're like drive by
45:02
Speaker 1: these huge trucks and it's always that area code. I
45:04
Speaker 1: don't call them, but you got a good memory, I remember, yea.
45:07
Speaker 1: So he ended up calling this guy right, and this
45:11
Speaker 1: guy claims Robin Hood steff no too to steal from
45:13
Speaker 1: the rich and give to the poor by winning money
45:16
Speaker 1: from casinos and giving away to people in need. He
45:18
Speaker 1: had a website where people could submit their personal stories
45:21
Speaker 1: for why he should help them. Robin Hood wore a
45:23
Speaker 1: mask and tried to hide his identity, but his real
45:26
Speaker 1: name was r J. Cipriani also loved that name. I
45:29
Speaker 1: like this guy. I like this guy. Also, what a
45:32
Speaker 1: great way to money launder. Let's just say he gave
45:34
Speaker 1: it away to all these stories. Oh you think he's
45:36
Speaker 1: keeping it. He might be giving it to him, but
45:38
Speaker 1: they also like be like I get like give them
45:40
Speaker 1: to him twice a full time. Like what's gonna know?
45:43
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's see, he sounds noble to me.
45:46
Speaker 1: He does no, I still think that's no. As long
45:48
Speaker 1: as the people get the coins. Okay. So Owen thought
45:50
Speaker 1: he could use this high stakes gambler two yes lond
45:53
Speaker 1: of money out of Australia. Over two days, Owen staked
45:57
Speaker 1: RJ with four million at a blackjack table at the
45:59
Speaker 1: Sydney's Our Casino. On the first night, Cipriani won three
46:02
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on a bank roll of one point
46:04
Speaker 1: five million. With one point eight million, Cipriani received a
46:08
Speaker 1: casino check from the Star that he brought back to
46:11
Speaker 1: the US to cash at a sister property. So the
46:14
Speaker 1: second time he got, you know, like with one point
46:17
Speaker 1: eight million, he turned that into a check that he
46:19
Speaker 1: could bring back to the States and then cash at
46:22
Speaker 1: another chain that was in America. So this is how
46:24
Speaker 1: the laundering is working.
46:25
Speaker 2: Laundering never makes sense to me, so I'm so confused
46:28
Speaker 2: on this part.
46:28
Speaker 1: But that's okay. It's like you have to turn your
46:31
Speaker 1: money into some because it's crime money. So you're gonna
46:33
Speaker 1: lose a little money on laundering, and and that's fine.
46:36
Speaker 1: But it's like you have to show the government where
46:38
Speaker 1: you got the money from. Yea, yeah, So you just
46:40
Speaker 1: start getting a lot of money. Uncle Sam gonna start
46:42
Speaker 1: getting nosy. He'd be like, where you can not have
46:43
Speaker 1: money from young blood? Yeah, and then so you have
46:46
Speaker 1: to be like, it's from my laundry, mat, it's all
46:48
Speaker 1: these coins. That's why I'm making millions. There was a
46:50
Speaker 1: bunch of restaurants. People were talking about these restaurants in
46:54
Speaker 1: New York City that would pop up and like be
46:57
Speaker 1: there like their storefront. So it would pop up overnight
47:00
Speaker 1: and be there for like maybe a few months, and
47:02
Speaker 1: then there was shut down and everybody was like, those
47:04
Speaker 1: weren't actual restaurants, they were fronts. And then there's a
47:08
Speaker 1: notorious front in New York City. I can't remember what
47:11
Speaker 1: it is, but I don't want to. But the food
47:15
Speaker 1: that they were making got so popular that they had
47:17
Speaker 1: to just keep the business up. That's kind of fun.
47:20
Speaker 1: They're like, we're here to launder money, and everybody's like, delicious,
47:23
Speaker 1: give me another one of day. I love that. I
47:26
Speaker 1: love it. So on the next evening, Owen gave Cipriani
47:31
Speaker 1: two point five million dollars to do it again running
47:34
Speaker 1: back this time, though RJ lost it all. He says
47:38
Speaker 1: it was on purpose because he was working with the Feds,
47:41
Speaker 1: but Owen says he's just a bad gambler. I'm gonna
47:44
Speaker 1: agree with Owen on this one because if I give
47:46
Speaker 1: you one point five and you roll back with three
47:48
Speaker 1: hundred K, what was you doing with the money? That's true.
47:51
Speaker 2: I was already disappointed in RJ because he was such
47:53
Speaker 2: a good guy, and then he got involved with ODOG.
47:56
Speaker 1: I mean, is this bad though, I mean, what if
47:59
Speaker 1: our j is given some o dog money to the families.
48:03
Speaker 1: I don't know that he is. We'll never know, We'll
48:06
Speaker 1: never know.
48:07
Speaker 2: Fine, I'll keep up hope.
48:08
Speaker 1: In any case, Owen made it out of Australia that time,
48:11
Speaker 1: but a year's long federal case against him ended when
48:15
Speaker 1: he was arrested by undercover agents on a golf course
48:18
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. So that's the thing about like the
48:20
Speaker 1: fads is they will They're just like target.
48:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, like target, yeah, certain numbers, like they're gonna research you.
48:30
Speaker 1: Not this, this is a meme. What is this? What's happening?
48:33
Speaker 1: It's like I see you. That was the fans looking
48:36
Speaker 1: at him like I see today where he's under a peer?
48:40
Speaker 1: Is he under a peer? That kind of what it
48:41
Speaker 1: looks like from the back. I don't know. I've only
48:44
Speaker 1: seen under the peers winding like Jersey Bob's Burgers, Yeah,
48:48
Speaker 1: Bob's Burger's. I love that episode. They're gonna murder them,
48:55
Speaker 1: it's so good. I love Bobsburgers. I don't know that well.
48:57
Speaker 1: I will say I feel like this was a pretty
49:00
Speaker 1: good scam, but I am upset that Owen wasn't being
49:05
Speaker 1: more careful because, like I said, Target's just like the Feds.
49:08
Speaker 1: Like the Feds will build the case on you for many, many,
49:10
Speaker 1: many years, so you're thinking you're getting away with it,
49:12
Speaker 1: but they're just stacking up enough evidence so that they
49:15
Speaker 1: know when they throw that book at you, it's gonna hit. Okay,
49:18
Speaker 1: it's gonna be read a rainbow. You're going to jail
49:21
Speaker 1: like Target, do the same shit like y'all. If you're
49:24
Speaker 1: stealing from Target, don't do that. Don't do that. But
49:30
Speaker 1: if you do, don't hit the same spot more than
49:32
Speaker 1: once or twice, because if I think it's twenty five
49:34
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a thousand, what is what's the number you
49:38
Speaker 1: gotta hit before they'll march your ass out of there?
49:40
Speaker 1: And you know what's fucked up to that they like
49:42
Speaker 1: to do with like the Lost Prevention is they'll they'll
49:45
Speaker 1: get your ass on a Friday, like they try to
49:47
Speaker 1: wait till you're coming on a Friday.
49:48
Speaker 2: So if you go to jail on a Friday, you're overnight,
49:52
Speaker 2: you're over weekend day.
49:54
Speaker 1: You gotta avoid those Friday book And how do you
49:56
Speaker 1: feel about the scam? How do you feel about Owen?
49:58
Speaker 1: I don't know.
50:00
Speaker 2: I went in with hate, and I'm just sort of
50:02
Speaker 2: bummed because it is sort of like, did.
50:04
Speaker 1: It raise up from hate to like more love?
50:06
Speaker 2: I guess I got more empathy, but that was always
50:08
Speaker 2: gonna happen. We go through their whole story. I mean,
50:11
Speaker 2: I don't think the divorce is real trauma, but I
50:13
Speaker 2: do think that it's like a guy who was just
50:15
Speaker 2: beefy and good at sports and then left with no
50:18
Speaker 2: other resources.
50:19
Speaker 1: He needed an excuse to do crime. He was like,
50:21
Speaker 1: but you know what, though, I will say he did
50:23
Speaker 1: have trauma though, because he had lived he was roommates
50:26
Speaker 1: with a strength in a bunk bed. He had to
50:29
Speaker 1: get slipping with a Wilson volleyball. That's given trauma. That's true.
50:34
Speaker 1: It's not just like, oh, we have to live in
50:35
Speaker 1: separate houses and like we tried to parent trap them. No,
50:39
Speaker 1: this is like he's like cuddling up to a Wilson
50:42
Speaker 1: ball at night.
50:43
Speaker 2: It's such a bummer because if the market hadn't crashed,
50:45
Speaker 2: he could have just done real estate for intune in finity.
50:48
Speaker 3: I know.
50:50
Speaker 1: You had always done this. Huh oh, so we got
50:52
Speaker 1: it up here with felony thresholds. So do you for
50:54
Speaker 1: a different states. So in Wisconsin it's twenty five hundred.
50:57
Speaker 1: Damn Okay, Wisconsin kind of popping out there. Florida is
51:01
Speaker 1: seven fifty, which shocks me. Yeah, and CALLI what is it?
51:06
Speaker 1: Nine fifty? Okay, that's not bad, Cali, y'all. We're giving
51:09
Speaker 1: good wages. We're giving good wages. Florida don't want to
51:11
Speaker 1: pay nobody. That's why they're seven fifty. But Wisconsin, what
51:18
Speaker 1: y'all talking about? It?
51:19
Speaker 2: Did Texas in Wisconsin? Unless you get.
51:23
Speaker 1: Everything you can do, I can do, Target, sponsor the
51:27
Speaker 1: show after this. We're not supposed to shop there, right,
51:32
Speaker 1: all right, we're guys supposed to shop there. Guys sponsor
51:36
Speaker 1: the show though. You know I'm not gonna buy stuff
51:39
Speaker 1: from there.
51:39
Speaker 2: You give me money, Yeah, that's right, reparations to you
51:42
Speaker 2: from Target.
51:44
Speaker 1: That's what they do every holiday. Oh yeah, I don't know.
51:47
Speaker 1: I we're gonna get it anymore though, they're like, all right,
51:49
Speaker 1: d guys, we're done with you too. Then we're not
51:52
Speaker 1: doing Black People February anymore.
51:54
Speaker 2: Dang.
51:55
Speaker 1: So now, he pleaded guilty Ohen to racketeering, conspiracy and
52:01
Speaker 1: conspiracy to distribute drugs, and when sentenced to twenty one
52:05
Speaker 1: years in prison plus a lifetime supervised release. So even
52:10
Speaker 1: when he got out of jail, they say, you keep
52:12
Speaker 1: doing so much crime, then we will surveil you forever. Yeah,
52:15
Speaker 1: because he did do what he had the booking, the cartel,
52:19
Speaker 1: got the cartel, the money smuggling, the money laundering, the
52:26
Speaker 1: USC fake doctor, Yeah, Booty Royd smuggler. That was private.
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Speaker 2: It was just kind of just for him. You know,
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's on the record.
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Speaker 1: That was for Funzi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In his car
52:39
Speaker 1: you said, his cartail in Baba. So he is a
52:41
Speaker 1: serial criminal. Like they needed to keep him up in
52:44
Speaker 1: the jail. So he was also ordered to pay back
52:47
Speaker 1: five million dollars, which included one hundred thousand dollars in
52:50
Speaker 1: gold and silver coins, a porschep Panorama, two Range Rovers,
52:55
Speaker 1: luxury watches, homes in Costa Rica, Peru, Cappo, Saint Lucas,
52:58
Speaker 1: and a sail boat. He was living good, Yeah, he was.
53:02
Speaker 1: He was released from federal prison in twenty twenty four,
53:05
Speaker 1: serving less than seven years of his twenty one year sentence.
53:08
Speaker 1: Who he's najon dang. Sometimes if you get out of
53:11
Speaker 1: jail too early, the cart which who you talking to
53:14
Speaker 1: he's just cause you need to be in a jail.
53:15
Speaker 1: You might get caught soon. So the motion for his
53:19
Speaker 1: sentence reduction was filed under a seal. All we know
53:22
Speaker 1: is that there were extraordinary and compelling reasons. You done
53:28
Speaker 1: gave up more the money than Oh, he done gave
53:30
Speaker 1: something up, told them you better watch out for that car,
53:33
Speaker 1: that cartel man. Yeah, oh geez. So Owen is now
53:38
Speaker 1: forty three and on parole he earns five hundred dollars
53:41
Speaker 1: every two weeks selling the iced protein bars he first
53:45
Speaker 1: learned to make in prison mop buckets. Oh now you
53:49
Speaker 1: got out of prison and started making that jail talk food.
53:52
Speaker 1: Come on, I love I love jail talk food. They're
53:55
Speaker 1: so creative. But yeah, ice protein isn't that just like
54:01
Speaker 1: a cream? Yeah, but I want to know what to
54:03
Speaker 1: but calling it ice protein is really doing something for me.
54:07
Speaker 1: That's great branding. And look he's got like a hot
54:08
Speaker 1: lady with it, Like if you want.
54:11
Speaker 3: To stay skinny, but have iu ice cream at the beach.
54:14
Speaker 3: Ice protein stuff always tastes bad, though, Yeah, but if
54:18
Speaker 3: you starve yourself from sugar for long enough it spends
54:21
Speaker 3: the block, it tastes kind of good.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.
54:25
Speaker 2: Five hundred dollars every two weeks, that's not awesome.
54:28
Speaker 1: No, he's struggling now. But you know what, when he
54:31
Speaker 1: had the life, he's had that life, so he at
54:35
Speaker 1: least got to joy it for many, many years, you
54:38
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like into his like thirties, so
54:40
Speaker 1: he had enough riches. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind
54:43
Speaker 1: of like the reverse, like rags to riches. He's riches
54:46
Speaker 1: to rags. Yeah, okay, when riches toregs, we kind of
54:49
Speaker 1: went rags to riches rags. Yeah, yeah, I think that
54:54
Speaker 1: kind of hurts more. He does. Yeah, it does, yeah,
54:59
Speaker 1: because if you will always ragged, you never knew about
55:01
Speaker 1: the richest totally. Yeah. Yeah. Well so California ice protein
55:07
Speaker 1: frozen bar on a stick include flavors such a strawberry
55:11
Speaker 1: swole cake and Coliseum cookies and cream. Oh US pride
55:19
Speaker 1: so much USC prize you guys. The truck out there,
55:23
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. Very much influence on Mexican culture,
55:26
Speaker 1: like that is the pilot man. Yeah, it is the
55:28
Speaker 1: protein pilot the man. I love it.
55:31
Speaker 2: Well, Owen is in California? Can we go see these guys?
55:34
Speaker 1: Walking down. Yeah, I look that. It does look like
55:36
Speaker 1: he's in Venice. He is, Okay, I might have to
55:39
Speaker 1: go see him and meet up and chat. What are
55:41
Speaker 1: you going to do? What are you going to say
55:43
Speaker 1: to this guy? I don't know. I'll just be doing anything.
55:46
Speaker 1: I know that be careful. Oh my goodness. Well, Owen,
55:51
Speaker 1: you gave me a great time. You were a very
55:53
Speaker 1: busy man. You worked very hard in crime. I wish
55:55
Speaker 1: we could get you a job like in crime where
55:57
Speaker 1: you could just well, not in crime, like legal but
56:02
Speaker 1: what I don't know, but like high paying and like
56:06
Speaker 1: he's probably really happy with these protein it's very fucking happy.
56:10
Speaker 1: He looks like the kind of guy who would talk
56:12
Speaker 1: your head off. Like he talks to strangers. He gives
56:14
Speaker 1: everyone directions.
56:15
Speaker 2: You know what, what if we see him on Shark Tank,
56:17
Speaker 2: like next season, Oh my god, these protein ices, he's
56:20
Speaker 2: on his waist a documentary. He's gonna be there, and
56:23
Speaker 2: he's got a great story he does.
56:25
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
56:25
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like I made these in prison, and
56:27
Speaker 2: now I make them on Venice beach.
56:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. You just manifested something for him. I did, like, yeah, yeah,
56:35
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56:41
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56:47
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56:51
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