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SCBOOKGAL & FRIENDS CHAT PODCAST EVERY TUESDAYS 8PM EST HOSTED BY PATRICE GRIMBALL| SPECIAL GUEST E.NIGMA · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 3: begins with us, says the bay.
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Speaker 4: Hey everyone, this is your girl Ssie book out eight
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Speaker 4: four three, and it is another Tuesday night, so y'all
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Speaker 4: know that means new author and a new book. So,
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Speaker 4: like I always say, how are you guys? Okay, Now
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be on the reil. I had a great
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Speaker 4: holiday weekend hang out with my auntie, Hey, Auntie teeny
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Speaker 4: and my cousins and had a great holiday, but kind
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Speaker 4: of troubled down because of what's been going on in
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Speaker 4: the media about the city of North Charleston and the
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Speaker 4: situation that happened. It's a lot to unpackage, but I'm
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Speaker 4: talk about that on another show. We ain't gonna worry
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Speaker 4: about that right now. All I'm gonna do is say,
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Speaker 4: please get a handle to your kids, you guys, because
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Speaker 4: that situation could have gone left and we could have
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Speaker 4: been singing high and verying low. You can catch my trip.
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Speaker 4: But tonight, y'all, I got an author thirty plus books
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Speaker 4: in counting, and these books are right up in my alley, y'all.
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Speaker 4: Just y'all know how I am right.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 4: Eniga is an award winning author, screenwriter, filmmaker, and an
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Speaker 4: animator known for crafting compelling stories across multiple genres. I
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Speaker 4: love that never be contained inside a box. If you
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Speaker 4: can step out of your box, step out of your box.
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Speaker 4: He began his creative career writing screenplays before expanding into
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Speaker 4: filmmaking and animation, where his work developed a loyal following.
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Speaker 4: Since publishing his debut novel, Confession of Call Center Junkie,
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Speaker 4: Yeah see what I'm saying The Diary of Leel in
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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, he has written numerous novels spanning drama, science fiction, romance,
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Speaker 4: and crime. And y'all, crime is becoming the new genre
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Speaker 4: because we're coming out of that roommance friends, and now
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Speaker 4: we're trying to find out who kill him and why
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Speaker 4: they kill him in the books. Okay, so his imaginative
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Speaker 4: storytelling and emotional depth continues to captivate readers with powerful, unforgived,
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Speaker 4: unforgettable narratives. So, you guys, let's bring up Enigma. I
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Speaker 4: am saying it wrong. I told him I would.
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Speaker 2: I told you I was gonna you are good, Enigma.
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Speaker 2: That's all you gotta know.
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Speaker 4: Can I call you Eve?
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Speaker 2: I don't need Yeah, people call me. They call me
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Speaker 2: all the time, So I'm good with that.
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Speaker 4: Listen thirty plus books. But we'll come back to that.
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Speaker 4: Can you tell me something about yourself that I did
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Speaker 4: not read in your bio?
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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of something that I, I guess I
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Speaker 2: didn't really talk about is the whole process of how
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Speaker 2: I you know, a lot of those stories that I
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Speaker 2: come up with and how they're generated based off of dreams.
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Speaker 2: You know. The first thing I've ever written was based
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Speaker 2: off of dream I had, and I took it as
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Speaker 2: a sign that this needed to be put in some
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Speaker 2: sort of format to tell it to other people. Initially,
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Speaker 2: I wanted to do like sci fi, you know, just
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Speaker 2: sci fi I'm a big sci fi fan, but then
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Speaker 2: I started kind of just going with the flow of
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Speaker 2: different things. So and the name Enigma comes from the
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Speaker 2: meaning that you never know what you're gonna get for me,
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Speaker 2: So it's like a riddle, you don't know what you're
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Speaker 2: gonna get. I may be, you know, if I'm in
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Speaker 2: the mood to write romance, I will. If I'm in
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Speaker 2: the mood to write science fiction, horror, whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: I will write it based off of my mood. So
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Speaker 2: that's why I go by the name Enigma or eat
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Speaker 2: for sure.
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Speaker 4: So let me tell you, guys. I went and I
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Speaker 4: looked through his catalog. You should see me. He went
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Speaker 4: from this this like over here, but now you're coming
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Speaker 4: over here? How do you do that with all the
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Speaker 4: different genres?
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Speaker 2: So, you know, like we talked about, I started off
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Speaker 2: doing movie scripts. I'm a big movie buff. I love movies,
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Speaker 2: but when I watch TV, just like most people, I
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Speaker 2: don't like to watch the same thing. You know, I
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Speaker 2: may be in a mood for an action movie, I
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Speaker 2: may be in the mood for a romantic comedy. I
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Speaker 2: may be in the move for sci fi. And so
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Speaker 2: I don't want to contain myself to just one genre
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Speaker 2: because that's not what I am. I watched a bunch
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Speaker 2: of TV and a bunch of movies and things like that,
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Speaker 2: and I just just like the TV. Sometimes I want
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Speaker 2: to read something that's different. I want want to write
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Speaker 2: something that's different. So I've always been like that. I'm
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Speaker 2: just not a person who can stay in like one lane.
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Speaker 2: Like if I see something, I want to try to
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Speaker 2: duplicate it and I want to do it and withever
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Speaker 2: whatever genre without any limitations.
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Speaker 4: And I really do like that because as a reader,
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Speaker 4: that keeps me guessing. I can't put you in a box.
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Speaker 4: Now let's go back. You said that a lot of
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Speaker 4: your books come for your dreams. I want to know
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Speaker 4: what you eating before you go to bag, and some
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Speaker 4: of your books are read some nas. I'm like, you dream.
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Speaker 2: Some of this stuff, like come on, yeah, I mean
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Speaker 2: even my bestseller book, I know, the one that we
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Speaker 2: had on the cover Era between Wives, that whole first
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Speaker 2: chapter of it was specifically a dream. And I just
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Speaker 2: woke up and I said, this is a book. I
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Speaker 2: didn't know what the book was yet. I just know
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Speaker 2: that this scene that I had in my head is
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Speaker 2: a book, and I needed to expand on it.
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Speaker 4: So when you when you're like that, I know a
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Speaker 4: lot of authors say they have something about a nice
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Speaker 4: stand and they're writing everything down. How do you how
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Speaker 4: do you keep control of all your thoughts? Like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: you wake up out of your dream, Okay, this is
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Speaker 4: going to be a book. What's the next step that
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Speaker 4: you do?
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Speaker 2: Well? The next step that is kind of I'll jot,
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Speaker 2: like you said, jot the idea down. I'm more of
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Speaker 2: a technic person, so I'll get on my phone and
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Speaker 2: just kind of type it in one of my notepads
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and then I'll kind of let it marinate
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Speaker 2: for a second. I'll actually, like, in that specific case,
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Speaker 2: since it was the beginning of the book, I'll actually
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Speaker 2: just go ahead and write that scene and then just
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Speaker 2: kind of let it marinate for a while to see
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Speaker 2: where it's going to go. So there's I always say
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Speaker 2: that there's two types of authors. There's the planners and
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Speaker 2: there's the growers. I'm a grower. I like to see
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Speaker 2: where it's going to go. You know, certain books, when
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Speaker 2: I'm writing them, i don't even know the ending as
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Speaker 2: of yet, and I'm just writing the story as it
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Speaker 2: develops in my head. So it really depends on, you know,
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Speaker 2: the situation. But I always try to get something written
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Speaker 2: down and then let that motivate me to kind of
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Speaker 2: build on that.
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Speaker 4: That's mad crazy, that's that's like mad crazy talent, and
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Speaker 4: you do it that way. So what made you want
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Speaker 4: to become an author?
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Speaker 2: Well, like you talked about, I started off doing because
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Speaker 2: I'm a movie buff. I started off doing like movie
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Speaker 2: scripts and things like that. And I actually had a
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Speaker 2: couple of scripts that were optioned but they didn't go anywhere,
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Speaker 2: and so I still had these stacks of scripts and
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Speaker 2: I wanted to still get these stories out. So a
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Speaker 2: lot of those scripts I converted into novels. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's basically the opposite of what most people do. Most
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Speaker 2: people do the novel first, then the script. I was
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Speaker 2: the other way around, and that kind I still wanted
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Speaker 2: to just get the stories out there, like if they're
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Speaker 2: not gonna make it as movies, you know, Hollywood is
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Speaker 2: just such a fickle environment to try to get some
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Speaker 2: things done. And I'm still I'm still working on certain things,
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Speaker 2: but I just wanted to really get those stories out
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Speaker 2: and so this way I have more of a control
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Speaker 2: of who I can get it out to and also
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Speaker 2: share it to the public because sharing scripts to people,
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, some people will read them, but you know,
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Speaker 2: you really want to get into the novels to be
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Speaker 2: able to get people immersed in your work.
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Speaker 4: And that's true because Hollywood is very fickle with that.
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Speaker 4: But I have to stay on the flip side. I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna find a lot of books to movies on TV. Right,
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Speaker 4: A lot of people like, oh, that's b movies. All
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Speaker 4: the movies ain't gonna make it. You would be shocked
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Speaker 4: how many people I've seen on my timeline say, hey, like,
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Speaker 4: for instance, Secret Society that was by Masia. That was
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Speaker 4: time ago, y'all, that was like maybe fifteen plus years. Okay,
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Speaker 4: this book has been made to a movie about one
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Speaker 4: part two. I actually sat there and looked at it
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Speaker 4: and had to go back and read the book because
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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't remember that. Oh yeah, remember
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Speaker 4: that part. So you know, Hollywood can be fickled, but
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Speaker 4: then you know what you got to be and other.
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Speaker 2: Platforms platforms, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That is about to take over. I think Hollywood about
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Speaker 4: to get a run for their money because a lot
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Speaker 4: of people movie theaters.
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Speaker 2: I mean mm hm.
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Speaker 4: My daughter used to go all the time.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 4: Now it's like, well we'll catch it what comes on TV.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll take a to B movie. I have no shame.
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Speaker 2: If I can get a to me movie, I will
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Speaker 2: take it.
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Speaker 4: Keep that thought right there. My sister y'all is terrible
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Speaker 4: with these two B movies. This is the only person
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Speaker 4: I know with in ball to me by four to
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Speaker 4: five movie titles and ask me to look at like check,
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Speaker 4: I got things to do. But it shows the power
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Speaker 4: of the tongue. And don't give up on it because
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Speaker 4: somebody's going to pick it up exactly. So, which one
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Speaker 4: you feel is harder to do? Screenplays or writing a novel?
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Speaker 4: Which one one's small compensation?
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Speaker 2: Well, writing a novel, I wouldn't say it's more complicated,
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Speaker 2: Like screenplays are a lot shorter, so they're a lot
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Speaker 2: easier to get out and put on paper. But I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's harder for a novel because I think
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Speaker 2: the novel allows you to dig in a little deeper
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Speaker 2: and so really getting you know, the screenplay just you
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Speaker 2: got to like two hours an hour and a half
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Speaker 2: to two hours to tell a story, and so you
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Speaker 2: have to make sure it connects with the audience, Like
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Speaker 2: right off hand, the novel, you get to dig a
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Speaker 2: little deeper in background. And that's why I, you know,
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Speaker 2: love that format because a lot of the stories I
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Speaker 2: was telling in this scripts they were good, but it
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Speaker 2: allowed me to dig a little deeper into those characters
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Speaker 2: that I love so much, and so to be able
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Speaker 2: to convert them over that way, it's just it takes
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Speaker 2: obviously takes more time, but it obviously allows me to
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Speaker 2: really dig in deeper, give more description at characters. There
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Speaker 2: weren't even any original script, you know, I've had books
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Speaker 2: where I've turned it it was just about like really
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Speaker 2: one character was the main character. But now, well what
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Speaker 2: the scripts rather? And then when I write the books,
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Speaker 2: I have multiple characters now because I can expand on
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Speaker 2: certain things. So the script is always going to be
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Speaker 2: easier because like I said, it's one hundred and twenty pages,
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Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and twenty one hundred and ninety pages,
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Speaker 2: depending on how long the movie is. And then you know,
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Speaker 2: with the novel, you got to dig in a little deeper.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I see, I see.
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Speaker 5: So now we're going to bring up these books of yours, y'all.
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Speaker 5: He's so nice, He brought twice two books you got.
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Speaker 5: Look at these colors. I've told you all these are
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Speaker 5: books that I would read.
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Speaker 2: I got them.
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Speaker 4: Okay, between Wives. So I'm gonna give you two minutes
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Speaker 4: to talk about each book. Okay, I'm that reader, And
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Speaker 4: I said, tell me about your books. Two minutes of
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Speaker 4: each book, all right?
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Speaker 2: All right? So between Whys. So this was one that
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Speaker 2: I had a dream on. So the main character, he's
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Speaker 2: a police officer. He's working a case. He raised this
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Speaker 2: drug house. When he goes in there, there's nothing in there.
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Speaker 2: When he leaves this ten years later, his wife and
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Speaker 2: kids don't exist, and he's married to somebody else. And
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Speaker 2: so that's the pitch that I always give everybody because
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Speaker 2: it basically puts you down that rabbit hole of trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out, well, what happened to this guy throughout
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Speaker 2: this whole process. And that's really the most I can
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Speaker 2: tell it without spoiling it. It's just one of those
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Speaker 2: books that, again, that whole scene that I just talked about,
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Speaker 2: that was a dream for some reason. I was a
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Speaker 2: police officer and I was raiding a house and I
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Speaker 2: went in there and then I walked in there was
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Speaker 2: nothing and I'm walking out. Somebody else that I didn't
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Speaker 2: know was like, hey baby, I'm like, who is that?
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Speaker 2: You know? And I just woke up and was like
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Speaker 2: what was that? And it became a story, and so
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Speaker 2: you know, as you get into the story, you get
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Speaker 2: to learn exactly what happened to him on that day
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Speaker 2: and why it happened, and you know, as the story progresses,
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Speaker 2: you're trying, you may start to think that maybe he's
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Speaker 2: crazy and his wife and kids actually exist, that were
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Speaker 2: they real? Was this is like the whole time you
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Speaker 2: don't know, but there is an explanation for it. And
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Speaker 2: everybody gets to the end they're like, what you know,
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Speaker 2: It's just one of those books I was about to say.
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Speaker 2: And then Illustrious Solitude, this one is always my favorite.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why. When I wrote this script, it
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Speaker 2: was more of a character study. And so the main
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Speaker 2: character think of somebody who's like a pop star like Beyonce.
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Speaker 2: They have the money, the power, and the fame, but
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Speaker 2: they're not happy because of some past trauma in their life.
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Speaker 2: And so what she does with that money, power and
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Speaker 2: fame is she's very vengeful and using that to influence
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Speaker 2: anybody who hurts her anybody who does anything bad to her.
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Speaker 2: So it's really a toxic individual. Nobody tried to fight
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Speaker 2: through that trauma or that toxic that, you know, that
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Speaker 2: toxic lifestyle until she hires this publicist who tries to
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Speaker 2: fight through the trauma to give her the love that
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Speaker 2: she deserves. So the reason why it's always my favorite
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Speaker 2: is because really you have a character who has been
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Speaker 2: so damaged in her past and she just can't see
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Speaker 2: past it. I mean, she's just she's just mean. Like
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Speaker 2: in the public eye, she's this great star, you know,
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Speaker 2: she knows how to keep it up in the public,
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Speaker 2: but behind closed door, she is just mean. Is all outdoors,
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Speaker 2: and so you know, you really get to get into
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Speaker 2: her psyche and really see the type of things that
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Speaker 2: could really drive somebody crazy. I mean, you have all
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Speaker 2: the money and power and all that, you know for
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Speaker 2: regular folks, you're like, hey, that's a good life. She
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Speaker 2: has all that, she's miserable, and so you really get
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Speaker 2: to see that trauma that's developed. And I like this
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Speaker 2: character so much that I've actually have these little shorts
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Speaker 2: that I put out there, these little slide shorts where
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Speaker 2: it digs even deeper into her youth. And then also
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Speaker 2: there's even music that was created because she is a
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Speaker 2: pop star that kind of tells the tale as well.
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Speaker 2: So I'm really invested into this character. I don't know
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Speaker 2: why this is my favorite, but it's always been my favorite.
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Speaker 4: See now you kind of you kind of went into
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Speaker 4: my question.
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Speaker 2: So my question is.
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Speaker 4: Which one is your favorite? And why did you choose those?
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Speaker 2: That one?
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Speaker 4: And well which one was the most complicated to write
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Speaker 4: because these two different spectrums. I love the fact that
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Speaker 4: you're not an author who always has a female as
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Speaker 4: the main character, like you're giving the men some playtime too,
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Speaker 4: So which one was your favorite? Which we already kind
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Speaker 4: of know, why did you choose it?
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Speaker 2: So the one that was most difficult to answer that
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Speaker 2: first question was definitely between wise because I had no
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Speaker 2: idea what I was going to end this book with.
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Speaker 2: And the reason I like it that way is because
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Speaker 2: when I'm writing it, I'm confused, the characters confused, and
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Speaker 2: hopefully the readers going down. Like when there's different transitions
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Speaker 2: that happened, they're like, wait, what happened? And it keeps
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Speaker 2: you entertained, it keeps you, you know, in just really
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Speaker 2: looking like okay, what's going on? What's going on? You know,
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Speaker 2: my wife she read it, and you know, she kept
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Speaker 2: texting me like, wait, what happened? I said, just keep reading.
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Speaker 2: She'll read another couple of chapters. She'll text me back, wait, mate, really,
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Speaker 2: what's going on? Just keep reading? You know. It's one
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Speaker 2: of those books. And so that one was probably the
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Speaker 2: hardest to write because you know, even then I was
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out how I wanted to end it,
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Speaker 2: and then when I find it finally hit me, it
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Speaker 2: was just like, oh, this is perfect. And then illustrious solitude.
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Speaker 2: The reason it's my favorite, I honestly don't know. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it was just a character I came up with when
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Speaker 2: I was doing my scripts, and it was probably one
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Speaker 2: of my longer scripts. And the reason why it's just really,
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Speaker 2: you know, we tend to think that money resolves everything.
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Speaker 2: I know, money will fix every last one of my problems,
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Speaker 2: you know, if I had that amount whatever. But you know,
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Speaker 2: when you have a lifetime of trauma that really something
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Speaker 2: that you didn't deal with that some you know, you
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Speaker 2: just have a lot of bad luck and a lot
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Speaker 2: of trauma that just drove you. Even all the success
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Speaker 2: in the world is not going to remove that trauma.
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Speaker 2: You're not going to get rid of it just by
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Speaker 2: oh it eventually, it'll solve itself. That's not how things work.
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Speaker 2: You know, Trauma lingers and unless you actually have somebody
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Speaker 2: there who can fight for that trauma. And she's been
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Speaker 2: locked in for so long by the time you meet
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Speaker 2: the character, I mean, she's almost in her forties. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is like and this is what happened to her,
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Speaker 2: actually happened when she was a teenager, and so you
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Speaker 2: she hasn't let this go. And but anybody who does
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Speaker 2: anything to her, she you know, she lashes out in vengeance.
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Speaker 2: She uses her influence to really mess up people's lives.
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Speaker 2: And nobody tried to fight through that. It just went
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Speaker 2: unweathered until she hires this publicist who sees her for
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Speaker 2: the first time, and he's trying to fight through that
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Speaker 2: trauma to really say you can let it go. You know,
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Speaker 2: you can live a life of happiness. You don't have
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Speaker 2: to hold on to this trauma and let it run you.
20:17
Speaker 2: So I mean, maybe that's part of it, just her journey,
20:20
Speaker 2: just her journey from you know, what she was and
20:24
Speaker 2: to the point to where you know, she gets to
20:27
Speaker 2: starting to you know, adjust to letting that trauma go.
20:30
Speaker 2: But there's still some things that happened. One thing you'll
20:33
Speaker 2: know about me the endings of a lot of my books,
20:36
Speaker 2: not all of them, but a lot of my books.
20:37
Speaker 2: They are bittersweet. You know, there's going to be some
20:40
Speaker 2: things that happen that are like, oh my god, it's sad,
20:43
Speaker 2: but you know it has a sort of a happy ending,
20:46
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of you know, sacrifice to be
20:49
Speaker 2: made to get there.
20:52
Speaker 4: And come on, man, I thought I was going to
20:55
Speaker 4: have the happy ending books, you know.
21:00
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's not sad, just bittersweet.
21:04
Speaker 4: So as the reader, what should I take from the books?
21:10
Speaker 4: Or what would you want me to take from the books?
21:13
Speaker 4: Like I just want you to relax, have fun and read.
21:15
Speaker 4: I want you to get that life is you know,
21:19
Speaker 4: life can change. What do you want your readers to
21:22
Speaker 4: get from your books?
21:25
Speaker 2: And this is just any of my books. I just
21:27
Speaker 2: want you to be entertained. You know, we all go
21:29
Speaker 2: through life and life is hard, you know, different things
21:33
Speaker 2: that we're dealing with. I just want you to disappear,
21:36
Speaker 2: just like I do when I'm writing it. You know, like,
21:38
Speaker 2: no matter what's going on, in life, I can disappear
21:41
Speaker 2: into a whole universe that, in this case I control,
21:45
Speaker 2: and I can you know, mold it in a way
21:47
Speaker 2: to where some of the stories and not all the stories,
21:51
Speaker 2: some of the like that. I have comedy books that
21:52
Speaker 2: are just pure comedies just to make you laugh. That's
21:55
Speaker 2: all I want you to do. I have books that
21:58
Speaker 2: are I have a book that deals with a domestic
22:00
Speaker 2: violence excuse me, and dealing with domestic violence. I want
22:04
Speaker 2: you to see, you know, from the outside looking in,
22:07
Speaker 2: because that was a book that I did a lot
22:08
Speaker 2: of research on since I wasn't ever raised in that
22:12
Speaker 2: type of environment. So I really wanted to know, have
22:14
Speaker 2: some questions answered about that so I can portray it.
22:18
Speaker 2: And then with sci fi, I just want to send
22:20
Speaker 2: you to another world. I want to send you to
22:22
Speaker 2: a universe that you know doesn't exist in reality. I
22:25
Speaker 2: want you to really just kind of disconnect from whatever's
22:29
Speaker 2: going on and just really, you know, just getting to
22:32
Speaker 2: a good book, getting the good spirits, and like I said,
22:34
Speaker 2: depending on what you're interested in, I hope I could
22:37
Speaker 2: have something that's close to allow you to disappear for
22:40
Speaker 2: a while.
22:42
Speaker 4: Awesome. So I know you said that your wife would
22:45
Speaker 4: ask you questions about your book. Has your wife ever
22:48
Speaker 4: been mad at one of the characters in your book
22:53
Speaker 4: and come up to you and be like, so, why
22:54
Speaker 4: did you do that? Has she ever done that?
22:57
Speaker 2: Well, I know we've had conf on certain characters. It's
23:01
Speaker 2: like certain things. She's like, I don't get this, and
23:04
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm the one who wrote it, so
23:08
Speaker 2: I think I'm the one who knows what they're thinking,
23:10
Speaker 2: you know, you know, certain things like that. But yeah,
23:14
Speaker 2: I mean, she has characters that she likes, and like,
23:18
Speaker 2: there's this one book called The Professionals, and you have
23:22
Speaker 2: two different characters. He's dating one character, but everybody likes
23:25
Speaker 2: the other character that he's It's like a love triangle
23:27
Speaker 2: that he ends up getting with. And I'm like, do
23:29
Speaker 2: y'all not realize that he was actually dating the other girl,
23:33
Speaker 2: That the other girl that everybody loves is the one
23:35
Speaker 2: who kind of butted in and started the drama, you know,
23:39
Speaker 2: but people don't really understand it. That book is like
23:41
Speaker 2: a comedy, so it's not necessary to be taken seriously,
23:45
Speaker 2: but you know, just things like that. You know, she
23:47
Speaker 2: don't read. She doesn't read all of them, like she's
23:49
Speaker 2: not a sci fi fan, so she won't read that.
23:52
Speaker 2: She'll read a lot of the urban fiction stuff, some
23:55
Speaker 2: of the coming of age stuff and tales like that.
23:58
Speaker 2: But yeah, certain one she she'll look at like, you know,
24:02
Speaker 2: what's going on or how's she wants to argue your
24:06
Speaker 2: point about a character that I created some go figure,
24:09
Speaker 2: you know, But stuff like that, it's all fun.
24:13
Speaker 4: I think that is awesome. That is so awesome. So
24:18
Speaker 4: I'm looking at all your books because you're talking about
24:21
Speaker 4: all of them, and this one really caught my eye,
24:25
Speaker 4: and this is America. Can you tell me about that one?
24:28
Speaker 4: Because that I'm like looking at right now as you speak,
24:31
Speaker 4: and that one just jumped out at me. I'm like,
24:33
Speaker 4: WHOA hold up, I might need to look at this
24:36
Speaker 4: real quick. Can you tell me a little bit about
24:38
Speaker 4: that one?
24:40
Speaker 2: Sure? So that one I was actually going to make
24:43
Speaker 2: it to a script, but I kept putting it off,
24:44
Speaker 2: putting it off. But after the George Floyd murder, you know,
24:49
Speaker 2: it was something that needed to be talked about. So
24:51
Speaker 2: it's dealing with police brutality, and the way that it's
24:55
Speaker 2: written is this is a possibility if those issues aren't resolved.
25:01
Speaker 2: You know, you have a vigilanti group who's actually going
25:05
Speaker 2: after the police who are get off on killing minorities,
25:09
Speaker 2: you know, so they're basically during their own sense of
25:11
Speaker 2: street justice. And there is a situation where there was
25:16
Speaker 2: a true accidental shooting, and you get to see how
25:20
Speaker 2: it affects that police officer's life as well. But when
25:24
Speaker 2: I wrote it, what I didn't want to do is
25:27
Speaker 2: lean into Okay, we're going to just talk about this
25:29
Speaker 2: one issue. I wanted to show it on both sides, like,
25:32
Speaker 2: I know, we know this, you know, the harassment and
25:36
Speaker 2: the things that happens on the streets with the police
25:38
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I also wanted to show it
25:40
Speaker 2: on the flip side too, like, you know, this particular
25:43
Speaker 2: officer who was actually innocent of the situation, you know
25:47
Speaker 2: how his life changed through it as well. But it's
25:50
Speaker 2: really and again it's fictitious. But I thought about it,
25:53
Speaker 2: if we don't resolve these issues or really get you know,
25:56
Speaker 2: get a grasp on this, this is a possible thing
25:59
Speaker 2: that people are taking the law into their own hands.
26:02
Speaker 2: And clearly we don't want that because that's going to
26:05
Speaker 2: cause even more backlash and you know, harassment and things
26:09
Speaker 2: like that. But I really wanted to address that. I mean,
26:12
Speaker 2: the George Floyd thing just kind of just really, you know,
26:15
Speaker 2: motivated me to actually finish it. I started writing it
26:17
Speaker 2: as a script and I had put it to the side,
26:19
Speaker 2: But after that I decided, you know what, I need
26:22
Speaker 2: to go ahead and get this book out here. I
26:23
Speaker 2: have this tale. I want to talk about it. I
26:26
Speaker 2: want to show it on both ends. But I really
26:29
Speaker 2: wanted people to understand that, you know, this can't continue
26:33
Speaker 2: on the way it's going.
26:35
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna tell you, I just hit the ad
26:37
Speaker 4: to my Kindle Unlimited. Why you were speaking, I've already
26:40
Speaker 4: clicked that, So that's in that Kindle Unlimited. I think
26:43
Speaker 4: I got like ten books in the y'all got to
26:47
Speaker 4: go on hiatus for a little while.
26:49
Speaker 2: But okay, so.
26:54
Speaker 4: What if you could say anything to your readers, what
26:57
Speaker 4: would it be.
27:01
Speaker 2: Well, we kind of talked about it. You know, I
27:03
Speaker 2: go by the name Enigma because you never know what
27:05
Speaker 2: you're gonna get. So with me, you know, you don't
27:09
Speaker 2: know what mood I'm in. I'm a cancer sign. So
27:12
Speaker 2: they always say we're emotional. I don't necessarily agree with that,
27:17
Speaker 2: but what I will say is I am moody to
27:21
Speaker 2: a point where I don't know what I'm gonna write next.
27:24
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are like, you know, are
27:26
Speaker 2: we gonna get a series? I have several series of books,
27:29
Speaker 2: you know, I have several. We talked about the different genres.
27:33
Speaker 2: I have a lot going on. So you don't know
27:35
Speaker 2: what my next book is gonna be. You don't know
27:37
Speaker 2: what it's gonna pop out and be. I can tell
27:40
Speaker 2: you right now. I've been working on my I have
27:44
Speaker 2: an espionage series of a female spy thriller. She's kind
27:49
Speaker 2: of like James Bond, of course, a black female James Bond.
27:53
Speaker 2: And so you know, I'm working on the third and
27:56
Speaker 2: final book of that installment. It may be the final,
27:59
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see how it goes. So I'm
28:01
Speaker 2: working on that third book there, the first two already out.
28:05
Speaker 2: I want to. I have this third story that's just
28:07
Speaker 2: stuck in my head, so I want to go ahead
28:08
Speaker 2: and get that out and then you know, if she
28:10
Speaker 2: ever comes back in my head again, then hey, I
28:12
Speaker 2: might write a fourth for one. But right now, I
28:14
Speaker 2: wanted to when I first started, I wanted it was
28:16
Speaker 2: a trilogy, and so I'm working on that. I also
28:19
Speaker 2: have a book that I finished that's more of a
28:21
Speaker 2: supernatural book as well. Both of those books, well, the
28:26
Speaker 2: supernatural book is actually done. I just need to go
28:29
Speaker 2: and quit being lazy and actually go edit and start,
28:32
Speaker 2: you know, doing the final stuff on it is just
28:34
Speaker 2: once I got it on paper, what I like to
28:37
Speaker 2: do is I like to take a break from it
28:38
Speaker 2: so when I come and look back at it again,
28:40
Speaker 2: it's fresh. But I started writing something else, and so
28:44
Speaker 2: now I got stuck to writing something else. What we'll
28:47
Speaker 2: see about that, because I have like two books right
28:49
Speaker 2: now that are in reserve that are just sitting there
28:51
Speaker 2: waiting for me to finish the edits, and you know,
28:55
Speaker 2: we'll see if it comes out this year or not.
28:57
Speaker 2: I don't know, depends on if I get to it
28:59
Speaker 2: or not. But you know, when I have the creative
29:01
Speaker 2: juices flowing, I don't like to stop, you know. I
29:03
Speaker 2: like to keep it moving while I have it, you know.
29:05
Speaker 2: And if I get to a point in the story where,
29:07
Speaker 2: you know, maybe a little bit of writer's block, I'll
29:10
Speaker 2: take a break and then maybe I'll revisit it then.
29:12
Speaker 2: But as long as I have something in my head,
29:13
Speaker 2: I just want to kind of keep it moving.
29:16
Speaker 4: Okay, So do you self published or are you under
29:19
Speaker 4: a publishing house?
29:22
Speaker 2: Twelve of my novels are published, the others are self published.
29:26
Speaker 2: I went back to self publishing and it wasn't anything
29:28
Speaker 2: wrong with the publisher. It's just I, you know, to
29:32
Speaker 2: have that total control. You know, maybe I'm just that
29:36
Speaker 2: control person, you know. I want to control how the
29:40
Speaker 2: covers look. I want to control the releases and all
29:44
Speaker 2: that type of stuff. And my publisher was very they
29:46
Speaker 2: work with you and all that and stuff like that.
29:48
Speaker 2: But you know, for me, I just want to control
29:51
Speaker 2: my work. And you know, I've heard stories, horror stories
29:54
Speaker 2: about different publishers and publications. So I just want to
29:58
Speaker 2: make sure that what's mine is mine and I don't
30:01
Speaker 2: have to worry about that. But like I said, the
30:03
Speaker 2: publisher I was with, she was very good, the one
30:05
Speaker 2: who was running it. I had no issues with a
30:08
Speaker 2: major key publishing. That's the other twelve novels are with.
30:11
Speaker 2: I said. I have a good, you know, relationship with
30:15
Speaker 2: her now. And so that's you.
30:24
Speaker 4: Look over here, No, this cannot be what oh Joe
30:34
Speaker 4: you wrote? Know your street tails?
30:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm from New Orleans, man looking, I'm from New Orleans.
30:42
Speaker 4: Your books are sitting on the shelf of my library.
30:46
Speaker 2: Really, it doesn't look like no, I'm gonna.
30:50
Speaker 4: Tell you the name that The way I was saying
30:53
Speaker 4: your knee is oh my god, this it was crazy
31:02
Speaker 4: When you said major Key. I was like, hold, look,
31:05
Speaker 4: we have a lot of their books in our library.
31:08
Speaker 2: And okay, all right, I see you, I see you. Yeah.
31:13
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was with I was with them for
31:15
Speaker 2: twelve of my novels, and so you know, that's that's
31:18
Speaker 2: the publishing company. They're a good publisher. If anybody's out
31:20
Speaker 2: there looking for a good publisher, they're They're good to
31:22
Speaker 2: work with and everything. It's just I'm just more of
31:25
Speaker 2: a controlling person. I just want to make sure I
31:28
Speaker 2: have my arms around everything that's mine because you never
31:31
Speaker 2: know when things change. But yeah, they're they're a great
31:34
Speaker 2: publishing company for anybody who's looking.
31:37
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so remember before we came on, we were
31:41
Speaker 4: gonna have those fun questions. Mm hmm, al right, here
31:45
Speaker 4: that our hered that are are you ready?
31:49
Speaker 2: Yep?
31:49
Speaker 4: So I was thinking that we're going to talk about
31:53
Speaker 4: the book. Hmmm. See, I am thinking the luxurious solitude.
32:03
Speaker 4: All right, we talk about Serena. Okay, it's Serena could
32:08
Speaker 4: be any R and being an artist, Okay. And when
32:11
Speaker 4: I said R and B, I'm talking about the nineties.
32:14
Speaker 4: That's when R and B was R and B, and
32:17
Speaker 4: she could be any nineties R and B artists. Who
32:21
Speaker 4: would she be?
32:22
Speaker 2: And why, Well, it's funny you say that because when
32:27
Speaker 2: I first did I used to make like little mop
32:30
Speaker 2: posters of my scripts back in the days, like they
32:33
Speaker 2: were actual movie posters, and her representative was Monica. She
32:37
Speaker 2: was Monica and Monica, and I guess the reason, I
32:42
Speaker 2: don't know if there's a particular reason. I know there
32:44
Speaker 2: was just a great photo of Monica that just fit
32:47
Speaker 2: the whole Serena vibe. But Monica was also the first
32:51
Speaker 2: concert that I've actually that I went to when I
32:53
Speaker 2: was down in New Orleans. So she was my first
32:55
Speaker 2: actual live concert that I went to. Something. It wasn't
32:58
Speaker 2: even a real concert, it was some sort of like
33:01
Speaker 2: Olympic thing or something, and she just happened to be
33:03
Speaker 2: the performer there. And yeah, it would be Monica. She
33:07
Speaker 2: was the one that was actually on my mock cover
33:10
Speaker 2: when I first envisioned the character. So yeah, that's funny
33:14
Speaker 2: you said that, So.
33:16
Speaker 4: Serena is Monica. Now we got chains, and let's say
33:22
Speaker 4: that he is one of the we're gonna step away
33:28
Speaker 4: from music. Let's say he is one of the nineties
33:32
Speaker 4: movie heart throbs. Who would he be and why.
33:38
Speaker 2: Nineties movie hot heart drop. That's a good one because
33:44
Speaker 2: I in my head I was thinking about somebody else,
33:47
Speaker 2: but he's not in the nineties. If I had to
33:51
Speaker 2: pick nineties heart drove, I don't want to say like
33:56
Speaker 2: a maybe like a Wesley Snipes. Maybe I want to say,
34:01
Speaker 2: maybe I could go with like a Wesley Snipe because
34:04
Speaker 2: I could see him playing the different that that role,
34:09
Speaker 2: you know, something like he was a professional person, like
34:12
Speaker 2: in Jungle Fever, how he was you know, that type
34:16
Speaker 2: of vibe. So yeah, I could see Wesley Snipes being
34:20
Speaker 2: that James character.
34:23
Speaker 4: See, I think my I think my years are a
34:26
Speaker 4: little bit off because mine was two thousands, because I
34:31
Speaker 4: was actually thinking on Epps.
34:36
Speaker 2: But I.
34:38
Speaker 4: Was a little bit I would when I was reading
34:40
Speaker 4: your synopsis and I was thinking about it and hearing
34:43
Speaker 4: you talk about it, I was really thinking about it
34:44
Speaker 4: on my Epps type guy.
34:47
Speaker 2: Well, what I was thinking about what you said when
34:49
Speaker 2: you said earlier I was thinking about it yourself. That's
34:51
Speaker 2: who I was in my head. I was like Itsell
34:54
Speaker 2: would be a perfect James for that role.
34:58
Speaker 4: Okay, So why would you have chosen him? Him?
35:02
Speaker 2: Just a stature. I mean, he just has the look
35:04
Speaker 2: of the who I have the character in my head.
35:06
Speaker 2: He just has that that. You know, I could see
35:10
Speaker 2: him playing the role. You know, my favorite show of
35:12
Speaker 2: all times, The Wires. That's why I was introduced to
35:14
Speaker 2: him in the first place. But I think he has
35:17
Speaker 2: that that stature that will work well, Like say, if
35:19
Speaker 2: he's working with Monica in that situation, which she would
35:23
Speaker 2: be around the age of the character right now, to
35:25
Speaker 2: be honest with you, but yeah, he just has that.
35:28
Speaker 2: He just has that presence. I think that he would
35:31
Speaker 2: be able to put up with a lot of the
35:33
Speaker 2: stuff that he goes through in order to try to,
35:37
Speaker 2: you know, battle through her trauma. He just has he
35:39
Speaker 2: has the acting jobs. He's a great actor. I like him,
35:41
Speaker 2: you know, pretty much anything he's in.
35:43
Speaker 4: Okay, So we have Monica and we have just Elba. Now,
35:48
Speaker 4: you know, every good movie has to have a theme song.
35:53
Speaker 4: What would be the theme song for this book?
35:58
Speaker 2: Well, I would choose one of my theme songs in
36:02
Speaker 2: one of the songs I created for Yeah, So the
36:06
Speaker 2: song I created for this is called Well, it's like
36:11
Speaker 2: I put together like an album that you can kind
36:13
Speaker 2: of see her evolution. Love Gave Her Wings was the
36:17
Speaker 2: first song. It's actually that song is actually in the book.
36:20
Speaker 2: The lyrics are are actually in the book. So I
36:22
Speaker 2: took those lyrics and actually made it into a song.
36:25
Speaker 2: But Love Gave Her Wings would be the theme song
36:28
Speaker 2: of the book because it really you listen to the song,
36:33
Speaker 2: it talks about the struggle and what she had to
36:35
Speaker 2: do to kind of get through there. And when I
36:38
Speaker 2: created that whole album, you know, this little mock album
36:41
Speaker 2: for her. The first songs you'll hear like you hear
36:44
Speaker 2: the viral song. Then you'll hear the painful song, and
36:47
Speaker 2: then you'll hear some ratchetness because that's what she did
36:50
Speaker 2: growing up. And as she so as the album continues,
36:54
Speaker 2: her stuff starts to be a little more mature and
36:56
Speaker 2: she starts staying Towards the end, you start to hear
37:00
Speaker 2: about love and actual you know, heartache for certain things
37:04
Speaker 2: that went on in here past. You start to hear
37:06
Speaker 2: the real version of her. There's not the whole manufactured
37:10
Speaker 2: person that you hear in the first few songs that
37:12
Speaker 2: are just you know, just like I said, ratchet, you know,
37:15
Speaker 2: just virals, just crazy stuff. You actually start to get
37:19
Speaker 2: to the heart and soul of her. So you know,
37:21
Speaker 2: I know that's not a song nobody's heard, but that
37:23
Speaker 2: is the song that is the theme of the book.
37:26
Speaker 2: Every time I, you know, see it. It's a song
37:29
Speaker 2: that I still listen to on my own.
37:32
Speaker 4: All right. So and then you know you have to
37:35
Speaker 4: have a cool a cool chair that that person that's
37:41
Speaker 4: going to help you out if you can cold after
37:46
Speaker 4: this book, or have another big heavyweight to help you
37:54
Speaker 4: with this screenplay. Any actor, author, musician? Who would it be?
38:02
Speaker 2: And why? Well, I will say one of my favorite,
38:08
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go with director is Spike Lee. I
38:13
Speaker 2: Spike Lee, He's one of my favorite. Well, I have
38:16
Speaker 2: to I have Spike Lee, who you know, who's done
38:20
Speaker 2: a lot for the community. He's great with his movies.
38:22
Speaker 2: He would be the main one. And then one off
38:25
Speaker 2: that people are gonna be like huh because they're like
38:27
Speaker 2: totally different people is Quentin Tarantino. And the reason I
38:31
Speaker 2: like Quentin Tarantino is because of the dialogue he basically
38:36
Speaker 2: writes dialogue like it's just a casual conversation, and I
38:40
Speaker 2: really try to mimic that because it's just like, you know,
38:43
Speaker 2: you're just sitting like you're at work and just talking
38:45
Speaker 2: to people. He takes that and put it in the dialogue.
38:48
Speaker 2: He just makes it sound so great. So I have
38:50
Speaker 2: to have Quentin Tarantino for my dialogue. But as far
38:53
Speaker 2: as the overall the setting, the way the shot is,
38:56
Speaker 2: you know, and the you know, Spike Lee, he's just
38:59
Speaker 2: done it for so long, he's done it well. You know,
39:02
Speaker 2: the Malcolm X movie is definitely in my top five
39:05
Speaker 2: movies of all time. The way he was able to
39:07
Speaker 2: capture that essence. I know a lot of it was
39:09
Speaker 2: Denzel too, but it would have never have been there
39:13
Speaker 2: without Spike Lee's directions. So really, you know them two
39:17
Speaker 2: right there would I think would make the perfect screenplay,
39:20
Speaker 2: the perfect movie.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you went on two different screens when you said that.
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Speaker 6: Everybody says that, Okay, I see you, but uh, before
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Speaker 6: we leave you tonight, won't you give us the rundown?
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Speaker 4: Like where we can follow you on social media? I
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Speaker 4: know you have some upcoming events where you can buy
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Speaker 4: your books. I mean, the information has been scrolling at
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Speaker 4: the bottom of the screen, but you know, give us
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Speaker 4: the rundown.
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Speaker 2: Well, you can always check me out and see what's
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Speaker 2: new and getting listening to all my books and everything
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Speaker 2: else that I do because I do like podcasts, reviewing
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Speaker 2: movies and TV shows things like that. It's just a hobby,
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Speaker 2: so it's nothing big special or anything like that. But
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Speaker 2: on my website at www dot Enigma kid dot com
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Speaker 2: at www. Enigma Kidd dot com. From there you can
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Speaker 2: go my books are on Amazon. You can also see
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Speaker 2: the different events that I'm going to. The next one
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Speaker 2: I'm going to is the Texas Reader Con and Denton.
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Speaker 2: That one's gonna be on July, I want to say
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Speaker 2: the eighteenth and nineteenth. I'll be in Greenville. In November,
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Speaker 2: I'll be in Houston. I'm doing an event, so I'm
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Speaker 2: all around. I just got back from the African American
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Speaker 2: Book Festival in Austin. Is such an amazing event. I
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Speaker 2: love it. It's my third year going to that, so
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Speaker 2: hopefully I'll get back to that one. But yeah, I
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Speaker 2: try to do I'm located in the Dallas area, so
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Speaker 2: I do a lot of things around the Dallas Arlington
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Speaker 2: Fort Worth areas. But I try to at least go
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Speaker 2: to Austin, San Antonio and Houston at least once a
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Speaker 2: year for people who are a little further out, So
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Speaker 2: I try to hit the main your hubs at least
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Speaker 2: once a year. So Houston, I will definitely be down
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Speaker 2: there in November. I believe that's the Boots on the
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Speaker 2: Ground event. I will be one of the authors there
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Speaker 2: as well. So hopefully I'll start expanding outside of Texas.
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Speaker 2: But right now is just trying to get my feet
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Speaker 2: wet in these and these events and things like that.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, check out our website. It has all the
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Speaker 2: information of events books. I even have an option called
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Speaker 2: Character Corner where you can read about the different characters
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Speaker 2: and get some more detail and some of the characters
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Speaker 2: in my books. So you know, the website is the
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Speaker 2: hub for everything you want, everything you enigma, you go
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Speaker 2: to that website, you will find it all. Right.
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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for being with us tonight and telling
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Speaker 4: us about all your books. Like I said, I got
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Speaker 4: this in America already in the Kendle Unlimited stack, so
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be reading that one. But thank you for
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Speaker 4: being with us tonight.
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Speaker 2: Not a problem. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: Thank you well, you guys. It's another Tuesday Night and
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Speaker 4: another book and another author. You guys, go grab it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he got something for everybody, and I mean
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Speaker 4: you can't go wrong. Maybe challenge yourself read a book
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Speaker 4: outside your genre. Yeah, I just said that. Y'all know
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Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying to step outside of
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Speaker 4: my genre. I mean, my coworker said I need to
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Speaker 4: read some amish us. I don't think I can go
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Speaker 4: that far, but you know, go ahead and grab his books.
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Speaker 4: If he didn't get the whole show, catch the replay
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Speaker 4: right after this on YouTube. You'll have all this information
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Speaker 4: at the bottom. It would also have where he's gonna
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Speaker 4: be at on all his social media. Okay, guess what
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Speaker 4: you guys. Remember we still have some events going on
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Speaker 4: with sc bookyards and friends. We still have our.
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Speaker 2: This is awesome.
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Speaker 4: Remember go grab his books in Enigma, because you never
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Speaker 4: know what you're gonna get from him. I remember that
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Speaker 4: part another Tuesday Night in the book. Remember there's no
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Speaker 4: such thing is an old book, because not everybody has
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Speaker 4: read every book. I see you guys next week Tuesday
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Speaker 4: with a new book and a new author. This one
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Speaker 4: is for the mothers and the sons, I said