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We have a DOJ and FBI that will do the Presidents bidding · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: But first, joining us, legal journalist Christian Farias, co-creator of
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  Speaker 1: The Circus and former advisor to President George W. Bush
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  Speaker 1: and Senator John McCain, Mark McKinnon, co-founder of Punchbowl News
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  Speaker 1: and MSNOW political contributor Jake Sherman, along with progressive strategist
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  Speaker 1: Nomiki Konst. All right, everybody. Let's begin with the Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court decision itself. Christian, you said yesterday that it was
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  Speaker 1: going to come down yesterday or late today even. You
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  Speaker 1: were spot on. Are you surprised by the decision?
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  Speaker 2: I am not surprised by the decision. I am not
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  Speaker 2: surprised that I was right because this is a flatly
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  Speaker 2: unlawful rule by the U.S. Postal Service that we even
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  Speaker 2: are having this conversation. The president directing the Postal Service
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  Speaker 2: to issue a rule impacting all 50 states and everyone
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  Speaker 2: who votes in this nation is something that we have
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  Speaker 2: never seen. So I'm not surprised that the justices stopped
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  Speaker 2: this thing in its track. I'm kind of disappointed that
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  Speaker 2: it was a very short order. They didn't speak much.
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  Speaker 2: It's only three sentences. Those three sentences are hugely important
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  Speaker 2: because they put the nail in the coffin of this thing.
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  Speaker 2: And they said, nope, this thing does not succeed on
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  Speaker 2: the merits. And there's no way that this thing is
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  Speaker 2: going to move forward before the election. So yay for democracy.
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  Speaker 2: But stay tuned, because who knows what Todd Blanch is
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  Speaker 2: going to surprise us with.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, let's go toward Election Day.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Election Day or the days after. If
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  Speaker 1: the president tries to claim fraud again and asks his AG,
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  Speaker 1: his DOJ to seize voting machines, can he do that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he can do many things. And unfortunately, we
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  Speaker 2: have a DOJ and an FBI that will do the
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  Speaker 2: president's bidding on so many things, beginning with the 2020 election,
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  Speaker 2: which is still being litigated and investigated, despite the fact
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  Speaker 2: that there was no fraud and that he lost it.
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  Speaker 2: So anything that he loses, he tends to investigate. So
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  Speaker 2: we're not out of control. out of danger here. They
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  Speaker 2: will continue probing anything that needs to be probed. And
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  Speaker 2: if they have to go to the mats again, and
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  Speaker 2: if they have to reissue the rule, they will try
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  Speaker 2: to do anything in their power to do so. This
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  Speaker 2: is a trial run for 2028. And I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if they keep... just hammering the point that fraud
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  Speaker 2: is rampant because by creating that perception that there's lawlessness
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  Speaker 2: in our elections with which there isn't, that's how you
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  Speaker 2: create the recipe. And basically you create the conditions so
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  Speaker 2: that then the president can go and deputize not just
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  Speaker 2: DOJ and the FBI, but so many other agencies. And
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing it right now to basically create chaos, confusion
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  Speaker 2: and to disenfranchise voters, which is the ultimate goal.
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  Speaker 1: Let me play Todd Blanche on CBS News yesterday talking
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  Speaker 1: about the potential for voter fraud.
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  Speaker 3: If you're using mail-in voting, the potential for fraud is
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  Speaker 3: greater than in-person voting with ID. What is the evidence
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  Speaker 3: for that? Well, it's common sense. And any honest broker
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  Speaker 3: will concede that mail-in voting, even though there are benefits,
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  Speaker 3: especially for people in the military, people who can't go
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  Speaker 3: to the polling stations, the potential for fraud is obvious.
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  Speaker 1: So much potential, Jake. Never any evidence. And they've been looking.
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  Speaker 1: Never any evidence. I wonder how Republicans are reacting to
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  Speaker 1: all of this, because there was there were Republicans who
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  Speaker 1: were talking about this postal service rule really doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of damage, being very disruptive. There was also the
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  Speaker 1: governor of Wyoming talking about how the election monitors that
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  Speaker 1: the DOJ sent for their election were also hugely disruptive.
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  Speaker 1: So it seems like there might be some interesting reactions
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 4: The irony is that Republicans are actually very good at
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  Speaker 4: mail-in balloting. This is something they've excelled in over the
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  Speaker 4: last decade. They've created programs to chase ballots and to
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  Speaker 4: get people to vote by mail, and it's been a
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  Speaker 4: huge success for them. It's led them in the 2010s
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  Speaker 4: to huge majorities in the House of Representatives because— they've
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  Speaker 4: played that game pretty well. And so there is fear
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  Speaker 4: and there has been fear, Katie, over the last couple
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  Speaker 4: of years, dating back even to the first Trump administration,
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  Speaker 4: that the Trump team's, you know, antipathy or opposition to
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  Speaker 4: mail-in voting is going to hurt them. And again, we are,
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  Speaker 4: you know, 49 days until Election Day. If you tell people,
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  Speaker 4: especially Republican voters or any voters, that if they vote
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  Speaker 4: by mail, then their vote won't be counted or it's
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  Speaker 4: less secure or it could be lost or whatever. That's
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  Speaker 4: not a great motivation for people to vote. And again,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of Republicans vote on top of that. There
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  Speaker 4: are a lot of states around the country that have,
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  Speaker 4: Republican states, by the way, that have secure mail-in balloting programs,
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma being one of them, where I believe it has
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  Speaker 4: to be notarized or it's very, very strict to So
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  Speaker 4: cutting back on things like that could hurt Republicans. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think the in the Supreme Court decision,
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  Speaker 4: it said Justice Kavanaugh said that it's too close to
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  Speaker 4: the election for any of these changes. And obviously, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: That's the opinion of the court or it's the opinion
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  Speaker 4: of Kavanaugh and some people on the court. So I
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  Speaker 4: would you know, I don't think obviously I think the
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  Speaker 4: administration is going to keep trying to put new restrictions
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  Speaker 4: on this. I don't know that they're going to be successful.
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  Speaker 4: And most people up here, Katie, are focused on getting
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  Speaker 4: Republicans are focused on getting people to vote and winning elections,
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily these these schemes or these new restrictions on
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  Speaker 4: mail in voting.
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