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- 2:06We are in the middle.
- 2:07Sean, how was your week?
- 2:12I wish I could tell you boys that I've had worst weeks.
- 2:16But this was a historic one.
- 2:19One in nine.
- 2:22Thank good.
- 2:24I've never had a worst week in the NFL in my entire betting career.
- 2:28I'm not feeling too confident going into this week.
- 2:43But I guess I'm confident enough to get on the internet and tell you my thoughts and opinions
- 2:49about what I think are winners this week.
- 2:53So yeah, it's not a castans a week spoiler.
- 2:58But yeah, one in nine.
- 3:03Chris, I hope you're better.
- 3:06I couldn't even fathom going one in nine.
- 3:10I mean, that's brutal.
- 3:14I went two and eight.
- 3:16So suck it.
- 3:18It was bad.
- 3:28Everything was terrible.
- 3:31Through a few live bets and props that I didn't get out because I figured they'd lose anyway.
- 3:38I ended up only being down a handful of units instead of 10.
- 3:49But it was still just a disaster of a week.
- 3:52I mean, just right out of the gate was 0 and 4.
- 3:56The Titans suck.
- 3:59The Falcons suck.
- 4:00The James Thurston interception in the final minutes to lose the over and the Brown Steelers.
- 4:08And then just everything was terrible.
- 4:10So yeah, not a castans a week this week either for me, but I'm here.
- 4:18So let's do it.
- 4:20Yeah, I'll even pile on to my depression.
- 4:24I went to the Titans game.
- 4:26You're a safe man.
- 4:29Man.
- 4:30Well, I thought it'd be a fun game to go to.
- 4:35Honestly.
- 4:35And then it was just miserable there.
- 4:37We all kind of ran.
- 4:38And I was like, Jesus Christ, what am I doing?
- 4:42We all kind of thought that it would be a good game.
- 4:46At least a good game.
- 4:48I had that over.
- 4:49I thought it would be entertaining.
- 4:52Yeah.
- 4:53But I didn't think it was bad.
- 4:56But yeah, that over and the lowest scoring NFL game of the season so far.
- 5:03So that's fun.
- 5:07Yep.
- 5:08Okay.
- 5:11All right.
- 5:11Moving on.
- 5:13It's week 15 of the NFL season.
- 5:16And the first game we're going to talk about here is the Kansas City Chiefs at the Cleveland Browns.
- 5:22The Cleveland Browns led by James, Love and Merhadem.
- 5:27They're home dogs by four currently.
- 5:31And this game kind of has me in a pretzel here.
- 5:36It's just like Chiefs just don't, they just can't cover a number these days.
- 5:46But neither can the Browns.
- 5:47Neither can the Browns.
- 5:49They just throw, they just throw shit away.
- 5:52The Browns just throw shit away.
- 5:54And I have a pick, but I want to hear someone else's opinion of this game.
- 6:02Sean, what do you think about this game?
- 6:09I hate it, but I got to go with James from the Browns.
- 6:13I mean, this, this Chiefs team, they've, they've really struggled to dominate this year.
- 6:20I mean, everyone knows, so I don't have to say it, but I'm going to say it.
- 6:23They're 12-1.
- 6:25They've failed to cover the spread in the last seven games.
- 6:28They're squeaking by opponents, narrow victories.
- 6:34Cleveland has been a little more competitive at home.
- 6:38They're two-in-one since James took over.
- 6:41And the, you know, Miles Garrett led defense.
- 6:44I think they hold a slight edge over the Chiefs.
- 6:50Yeah, I think, I think the Browns do have the tool to keep this game, game closer than expected.
- 7:02I think four is the right number.
- 7:03So I'm going to take the Browns plus four and a half here.
- 7:08Chris, what you got?
- 7:09Um, I also,
- 7:10I don't like this pick, but I'm going with it.
- 7:16I'm taking the Chiefs.
- 7:18I think,
- 7:18Here you go, Will.
- 7:22Hope this helps.
- 7:24Pacheco's like back.
- 7:26You kind of saw the, saw that thing the last game.
- 7:28He was kind of getting back to his old self.
- 7:31I think, I think the Chiefs just try to dominate this game on the ground and just own time of possession
- 7:37and force James to kind of have to play a near perfect game, which I love the game.
- 7:42I do.
- 7:43One of the most entertaining quarterbacks I've ever seen.
- 7:46If you're relying on James to play a perfect game, you're fucked.
- 7:50He has nine picks.
- 7:52Yeah, nine picks in the last five games.
- 7:55I just, I just don't see it.
- 7:57I think it will be a close game, but it's only four.
- 8:01The Chiefs can win by five and it's still be one possession game.
- 8:04They pull some black magic shit.
- 8:07I just think Chiefs dominate time of possession and their defense just does just enough for them to win by five.
- 8:17So Will, did that, did that help anything?
- 8:21No.
- 8:25But I'm taking the Browns.
- 8:27I had a pick before, before we went into it, but it, it's just like,
- 8:31I feel like I just cannot win with this game just in general.
- 8:35It feels like, it feels like if I bet on the Chiefs here and they don't cover, I'm going to feel like a moron because they haven't covered in seven games.
- 8:43But like if I bet on the Browns and they just get stomped by the Chiefs, I'm just going to be like it.
- 8:51Of course, of course the Chiefs would stomp them.
- 8:54They're the fucking Cleveland Browns.
- 8:56Of course, James Winston would throw three picks, of course.
- 9:01So I'm taking the Browns.
- 9:04I don't know.
- 9:05It's, it's kind of just like I'm, I'm going to follow, I'm going to follow the story of the season, I guess.
- 9:12All these, all these close games with the Chiefs.
- 9:15I'm going to, I'm going to lay the, I'm going to take the number or I'm taking plus four.
- 9:21That's what I'm doing.
- 9:22Okay, next game, Dolphins at the Texans.
- 9:29Dolphins, kind of hot right now.
- 9:32Texans, kind of not really.
- 9:36I mean, they just came off the buy.
- 9:38They barely beat the Jags and then they lost to the Titans.
- 9:43Jackson's not looking too good right now.
- 9:47I don't know.
- 9:49What do we think, Chris?
- 9:50What do you think about this game?
- 9:52Uh, I'm taking over, over 47.
- 9:58Dolphins offense is humming.
- 10:02Ever since two of us come with that stinker they laid in Green Bay, when they only scored
- 10:07I believe 17.
- 10:08So take that like, and that was just in the cold.
- 10:12The Dolphins don't like the cold.
- 10:14That's a scientific fact.
- 10:15So if you take, if you can't throw that one out,
- 10:18then they're doing much better.
- 10:22Uh, yeah, this, they've scored 30 points and four, they're less five, I believe,
- 10:27or at least three of their less four.
- 10:30Their defense on the other hand, I don't really know what they're doing.
- 10:34Obviously they kind of got torched by Green Bay.
- 10:37And then Aaron Rogers and the Jets kind of had their way with 400 yards.
- 10:42Like, I just, that defense or that offense is not good.
- 10:46So I don't, I think the Texans will be able to score enough to get this over.
- 10:54I don't really, the Texans offense man some mystery, but it's like one half they,
- 10:59they will look like good, kind of like how they did last year.
- 11:02And the next, and the second half, I think I saw their averaging nine points per game,
- 11:06the second half.
- 11:08That's, yeah, which kind of goes against my pick, but I'm taking the over.
- 11:13I think they kind of put it together after the buy.
- 11:16I saw a thing like they've been playing pretty much since July,
- 11:21because they were in the Hall of Fame game.
- 11:24That's insane.
- 11:26So maybe, you know, offense gets some rest and yeah, like over 47.
- 11:32Sean, what do you think?
- 11:35Yeah, I'm going to go with another dog.
- 11:37I'm going with the dolphins.
- 11:38I like the dolphins to cover plus three here.
- 11:40Yeah, like you mentioned, Texans have been pretty up and down.
- 11:44Tough losses to the Titans and the Jets.
- 11:49Almost the Jag, I mean, they almost lost to the Jags.
- 11:54Miami on the other hand, I think they've won, they've won five in a row or something.
- 12:00They're being kind of hot right now.
- 12:02Four of their last five, I think.
- 12:04Yeah, something like that.
- 12:05Because they lost to the Packers on Thanksgiving.
- 12:07Right.
- 12:08But they've won every other game, I think since two has been.
- 12:10They're sneakily, you know, coming back up.
- 12:15Yeah, two has been playing really well.
- 12:21I mean, Houston defense, they give up a lot of passing touchdowns.
- 12:24So that's not what you want coming into, you know, playing against the dolphins.
- 12:33I think, I just think the dolphins have been more consistent as of late and
- 12:37they should have no problem covering this spread against this.
- 12:41I mean, this Texans team has kind of been low key struggling all year.
- 12:46And yeah, they're leading the division, but this division fucking blows.
- 12:52So yeah, give me the dolphins plus three.
- 12:56Will.
- 12:58I am on the over with Chris here.
- 13:02I agree with everything that Chris said.
- 13:05Yeah, I mean, Texans are low key struggling.
- 13:09And I mean, it's worth noting that, you know, Aziz Al-Shayir is going to be suspended.
- 13:16But I mean, I guess it's worth noting, but he's not like a difference maker.
- 13:22I mean, I think he's a pretty good player, but it's, I don't know.
- 13:25It's, yeah, I mean, he's a starter.
- 13:29Yeah.
- 13:31And I mean, the dolphins, they've been able to put up some serious points
- 13:34this season.
- 13:35And I like the over 47.
- 13:40I also think both teams kind of need to win this game.
- 13:44And so both teams also have very middle of the road to below average defenses.
- 13:50And it's just kind of like, what's who's going to outscore the other
- 13:55instead of who's going to stop the other.
- 13:58So that's the way I see it.
- 13:59But that's that next game, the Steelers at the Eagles.
- 14:05The Eagles have been playing pretty well.
- 14:07I think was since Nick Sierra shaved his head or something.
- 14:11I don't know.
- 14:12I saw some mean about that.
- 14:15I mean, they've won nine in a row.
- 14:17Yeah.
- 14:17I mean, they're, I don't know if that started when he shaved his head, but I don't know.
- 14:22Yeah. But Eagles are favored at home by five and a half currently.
- 14:29And I guess I'll take the first one here.
- 14:34I'm going Steelers.
- 14:35I feel like this is another pick I can't really win with.
- 14:41It's just like, it's such a big number.
- 14:43And I'm just going to take them to cover that five and a half.
- 14:46I don't think either of these teams stomps out the other.
- 14:49I think both teams have it kind of figured out at this point in the season.
- 14:55Yeah. I mean, that's kind of, this is purely a numbers pick.
- 15:01Less about like, I guess skill and what I mean, it's, it's Mike Tomlin as a dog.
- 15:06You know, historically, that's been pretty good against the spread.
- 15:10So I'm taking the plus five and a half.
- 15:14Chris, what do you think?
- 15:16I'm taking the under 42 and a half.
- 15:18I think this game is going to be a rock fight.
- 15:22Looking like no George Pickens for Pittsburgh.
- 15:25So I think they're just going to run this ball and they're going to just turn it into a slugfest.
- 15:30And you know, the Eagles are probably fine with doing that, whether they want to,
- 15:34or they're kind of resort to because Jalen hurts struggles.
- 15:38But I mean, they got sick one.
- 15:39So they are very comfortable running the football.
- 15:43And the Steelers, I mean, they've shown they can shut down elite running backs.
- 15:46They held Derek Henry to 65 yards when four weeks ago, whenever they played Baltimore
- 15:50and beat Baltimore.
- 15:52So I can see this, them having a similar strategy to that one.
- 15:55Let's just run the ball, have boss will kick five field goals.
- 15:59Let's win and go home.
- 16:01And yeah, it's Tomlin as a dog.
- 16:03So that they're not going to let it get away from them.
- 16:06So there's going to be ugly 15, 12.
- 16:11What have you kind of gained?
- 16:15Yeah, Sean, what are you taking?
- 16:19I'm going to go over, over 42 and a half.
- 16:24Yeah, I think both teams have at least top five, top 10 defenses.
- 16:32Eagles, I mean, their recent games, they've tended to go over the 42 and a half mark
- 16:38as have the Steelers.
- 16:42I mean, both teams are averaging at least 27 points per game in the last six weeks.
- 16:48I think this makes, I mean, it's math, you know, this makes it a more likely high scoring game.
- 16:57This is a low line at 42 and a half.
- 16:59But I mean, you know, they've been, they, I'll say that, you know, no George Pickens sucks.
- 17:06AJ Brown has been kind of quiet, especially recently.
- 17:11But I do expect them to get AJ more involved soon, especially I got a hope for this fantasy playoffs.
- 17:20But yeah, this low line just doesn't really, I mean, it scares me now that Chris has made
- 17:30some really good points.
- 17:31But when I saw it, it didn't quit sit quite right with me.
- 17:34So instinctually, I was like, yeah, this isn't over.
- 17:39So I'm going to go over 42 and a half.
- 17:42Okay. That's that game.
- 17:44Next game, Bills at Lions.
- 17:47This game has the potential to be amazing.
- 17:52The best, the best game on the board.
- 17:56And with the way that these two teams are playing, maybe one of the best games of the year.
- 17:59Bills at the Lions, Lions at home, favored by two and a half currently.
- 18:08Sean, what do you think about this game?
- 18:10It feels like both teams are kind of on fire.
- 18:13Even though the Bills like lost last week, they scored 42 points.
- 18:19They only lost by two points.
- 18:21Like it's hard to say they played a bad game.
- 18:25The Rams just played a better one, you know?
- 18:27Yeah. I look at this as a preview to the Super Bowl and week 15.
- 18:34And I think that's beautiful.
- 18:36And we mentioned this last week, you know, this could potentially be,
- 18:41and I remember saying this on the show that the Super Bowl was in Las Vegas.
- 18:46It is in New Orleans.
- 18:48I did want to mention that.
- 18:50Oh yeah, it is.
- 18:53We messed up.
- 18:54We messed that up last week.
- 18:55Why did I think it was in Las Vegas?
- 18:57I don't know.
- 18:58And none of us really.
- 18:59Was it in Vegas last year?
- 19:00I think so.
- 19:01Okay, I guess.
- 19:02But it is in New Orleans.
- 19:03We're thinking of brand new media this year.
- 19:05Yeah, it must have been what I was thinking.
- 19:07Must be.
- 19:07No, the NBA Cup final, the N-Season tournament is in Las Vegas.
- 19:12That's what I'm talking about.
- 19:12Of course, you know.
- 19:13Everyone's got that on the brand right now.
- 19:15Yeah, it's so interchangeable of just, you know, Super Bowl, NBA Cup final,
- 19:21N-Season Cup final, whatever you want to, this meaningless award, but whatever.
- 19:25Yeah, I mean, we want this game to rock.
- 19:29So let's, let's bet an over.
- 19:32Over 40, over 54 and a half.
- 19:36Both teams, high scoring, Detroit's averaging at least 32 points per game.
- 19:42Buffalo at least 30 and a half.
- 19:45This combined with their recent shootouts, suggest another high scoring affair.
- 19:51These, these offenses explode.
- 19:57I take this over in this matchup.
- 19:58I mean, this is a game that could easily reach the 60s, if not, you know, 70s, maybe 80s.
- 20:05Dare I say, I mean, no, I won't go that high.
- 20:09Maybe the 90s.
- 20:12Maybe.
- 20:13Who knows?
- 20:13Who's to say?
- 20:14But who's to say?
- 20:15Yeah.
- 20:16Over 54 and a half is my pick.
- 20:18I don't know, it's an easy one.
- 20:20It's, you look at it and you're like, yep, that's an over.
- 20:24So high though.
- 20:25I think, is this the highest total of this season?
- 20:29I think I saw it was the highest total since 22.
- 20:35Okay.
- 20:37So last two seasons.
- 20:39Well, Chris, what do you got in this game?
- 20:41Totally agree.
- 20:42Over 54 and a half.
- 20:44I just want this game to rock.
- 20:46And I think it will rock.
- 20:48We saw what Josh Allen is capable when he plays in a control or capable of when he plays in a controlled environment.
- 20:55And there's no reason that he can't do it again.
- 20:57I don't really buy the let down spot kind of thing.
- 21:01Josh Allen has played or in the last 10 games he has played inside the bills are averaging 32 points per game.
- 21:08The Lions banged up his head on defense, especially on that interior.
- 21:13I think they, I mean, the bills could just run the ball right through it, honestly.
- 21:17And I know usually run the ball you think under, but I mean, if they're going to be averaging like 10, 12 yards of clip, you never know.
- 21:24Plus, I mean, Josh Allen is going to sling it.
- 21:27He blesses what he does.
- 21:29And so does Jared Goff.
- 21:30I think this game is going to, it's going to be sick.
- 21:33And I pray to God's preview of the Super Bowl because that should be amazing.
- 21:37So yeah, over 44 or 54 and a half, excuse me.
- 21:41Let's have some fun.
- 21:43Will, do we have a clean suite?
- 21:45We do.
- 21:47Let's go.
- 21:49We have a, we have a hope for fun game here.
- 21:51Low key.
- 21:53I was expecting you to go no under.
- 21:55Like just like low key.
- 21:57I don't know.
- 21:59You hate me because I thought you could smell the cheese or something.
- 22:01Like I thought you were a rat.
- 22:03No, I'm stupid.
- 22:05I've not been very good this year.
- 22:07I've been a rat.
- 22:09I've not been very good this year.
- 22:13Well, will you have been like the under guy for as long as we've been doing this?
- 22:19This very true.
- 22:21But I'm also a fun guy, right?
- 22:23I said, I said low key.
- 22:25Like lowest of keys.
- 22:27I thought you were just low key going to say no under.
- 22:31That's all I'm, that's all I was trying to say.
- 22:33Nope.
- 22:35Not me.
- 22:37I'm a fun guy.
- 22:39I'm fun.
- 22:41I'm fun now.
- 22:43Call him shiitake because he's a fun guy.
- 22:45Yeah.
- 22:47Jesus Christ.
- 22:49Mushroom jokes.
- 22:51We got them.
- 22:53All right.
- 22:55I'm, yeah, I've been the over 54 and a half.
- 22:57Yeah, I don't really have anything to add.
- 22:59Truthfully.
- 23:01I mean,
- 23:03do you want to add another terrible mushroom joke?
- 23:05You got one for me?
- 23:07I don't, I don't got one.
- 23:09I don't got one locked in.
- 23:11That's what I thought. Yeah.
- 23:13There's, there's so, there's only so far you can go with mushroom jokes.
- 23:15And I, I think I pulled the trigger.
- 23:17So.
- 23:19Well, I mean, empty the clip, brother.
- 23:21Okay.
- 23:23Well, the next game.
- 23:25Clip is one chamber of just.
- 23:27And it was a blank.
- 23:29That was funny.
- 23:31Thank you.
- 23:35All right. Sunday night football.
- 23:37The next game.
- 23:39It's the Packers.
- 23:41At the Seahawks in Seattle.
- 23:43Seahawks home underdogs by two and a half.
- 23:45This line.
- 23:47Kind of feels right.
- 23:49And both teams really kind of need.
- 23:51To win this game.
- 23:53And I think we're going to have a lot of fun.
- 23:55We're going to have a lot of fun.
- 23:57We're going to have a lot of fun.
- 23:59To win this game.
- 24:01NFC matchup.
- 24:03And.
- 24:05I mean, like the Packers division is so stacked.
- 24:09I, it's tough to see if they get an even in again, the wild card.
- 24:13It's just like both of these teams really need this game so bad.
- 24:17And like the division for that, the Seahawks are in it's just.
- 24:19I think they're leading the division now.
- 24:21Or they were.
- 24:23They still are.
- 24:25But.
- 24:27That division is still kind of wide open.
- 24:29I mean, yeah, they're.
- 24:31They're first in NFC West.
- 24:33Packers are in the wild card spot.
- 24:35So.
- 24:37Okay.
- 24:39But yeah, both teams.
- 24:41Still kind of need this.
- 24:43So Chris, what, what do you think.
- 24:45About this game.
- 24:47I'm taking the Seahawks.
- 24:49I got plus three this morning.
- 24:51I like it at two and a half makes me nervous.
- 24:53I'm not going to be nervous.
- 24:55I like it at two and a half makes me nervous.
- 24:57But I like three Seattle.
- 25:01Sneaky hot football team right now.
- 25:03I think they have one for five in a row.
- 25:05Look at, I mean, don't want to play them the playoffs.
- 25:07Green Bay Jordan love is playing very well right now.
- 25:09But Green Bay is still very much a run first football team.
- 25:11And Seattle is, I think it's the third best.
- 25:13Defense against the run in the league.
- 25:15So I think they, they kind of.
- 25:17They're going to be the best.
- 25:19They're going to be the best.
- 25:21They're going to be the best.
- 25:25So I think they, they kind of limit Josh Jacobs and their secondary.
- 25:29Especially with Mike McDaniel, Colin McDonald.
- 25:31What's this?
- 25:33Like McDonald.
- 25:35Okay.
- 25:37That's not right.
- 25:39He's my McDonald's coach.
- 25:41The defense.
- 25:43I think they'll get some schemes up that'll kind of confuse Jordan Love.
- 25:45Make him.
- 25:47You know, there are a couple of picks, maybe that's, I mean, he had thrown a pick in three games,
- 25:49but he was leading the league.
- 25:51I believe in interceptions at one point this season.
- 25:53So he is capable of making mistakes.
- 25:55I think Seahawks.
- 25:57I think they keep it close.
- 25:59Green Bay secondary.
- 26:01Not very good.
- 26:03They got hordged by Detroit.
- 26:05Detroit's a good team.
- 26:07Second half against Chicago or yeah against no.
- 26:09Detroit play Chicago.
- 26:11Excuse me.
- 26:13Who do they play last?
- 26:15Seahawks?
- 26:17They got
- 26:19uh, were they on fire?
- 26:21Never mind. Forget it.
- 26:23I'm just going to move on.
- 26:25Seahawks have weapons with Metcalf,
- 26:27Geno and Smith and Jibba
- 26:29who can torch a
- 26:31pretty middle of the road
- 26:33Packers secondary.
- 26:35They played the Lions
- 26:37last Thursday.
- 26:39Yeah, they got lit up.
- 26:41No, they lost back three.
- 26:43No, but they gave up 40 points.
- 26:45I was talking about their defense.
- 26:47They gave up 34.
- 26:4934, 31 final score.
- 26:51Okay. Seahawks plus 30.
- 26:53Pick. Lock it in.
- 26:55Well, anything.
- 26:57I am on the opposite.
- 26:59Oh.
- 27:01I am on the Packers.
- 27:03Minus two and a half.
- 27:05I think this is
- 27:07I mean it's tough to say it's a hungry dog runs faster,
- 27:09but Packers are kind of in a position
- 27:11where they really, really need this
- 27:13this fucking win right here.
- 27:15So I'm taking the Packers minus two and a half.
- 27:17And I think
- 27:19the Seahawks have just been playing well
- 27:21because they've been playing their dog shit division.
- 27:23They just beat
- 27:25the Cardinals
- 27:27twice in three weeks.
- 27:29So everyone's going to look good
- 27:31against the Cardinals.
- 27:33Cardinals are a good team.
- 27:35Not against the Seahawks.
- 27:37Not in division.
- 27:39Well, that's true, but they're still good too.
- 27:41So
- 27:43where it matters, they're not the giants.
- 27:45They're not the giants.
- 27:47Who's to say?
- 27:49Anyway, I'm taking the Packers
- 27:51minus two and a half.
- 27:53I just think they really need this game a lot,
- 27:55a lot more.
- 27:57And then I have a trend center stat
- 27:59to back this shit up.
- 28:01Check it out. Road favorites
- 28:03after the last game went over
- 28:05are one
- 28:0779, one 14
- 28:09and seven against the spread.
- 28:11Seven and three in the last
- 28:1310.
- 28:15Packers minus two and a half.
- 28:17Lock it in.
- 28:19John.
- 28:21I totally agree.
- 28:23Packers minus three.
- 28:25I did get them at three today.
- 28:27To the Seahawks credit,
- 28:29their defense has been pretty solid.
- 28:31But they do struggle
- 28:33against the run.
- 28:35Which, you know, they're kind of playing
- 28:37right into the Packers hands
- 28:39with Josh Jacobs.
- 28:41Green Bay, they've been looking
- 28:43strong lately.
- 28:45Especially since they've got this,
- 28:47you know, extra 10 days of
- 28:49rest, you know, playing from
- 28:51on Thursday.
- 28:53Yeah, they've just, I mean,
- 28:55they've been more and more convincing
- 28:57in their wins and even in their losses,
- 28:59you know, they hung right in there with the lions
- 29:01up until the
- 29:03last few minutes.
- 29:05Even though Seattle's pretty tough at home,
- 29:07but I think the Packers,
- 29:09they overbalance
- 29:11on offense and defense.
- 29:13So I think that gives the Pack
- 29:15the edge here.
- 29:17So lock me in for Packers minus three.
- 29:21Excuse me. And that's it.
- 29:25Lock the fuck
- 29:27in.
- 29:29Okay.
- 29:31Alright, that's the slate. Let's go
- 29:33to your Surefire picks here.
- 29:37Sean, you give me your
- 29:39Surefire pick right now.
- 29:41Great.
- 29:43Guy who hasn't won one in weeks, just
- 29:45neither have I.
- 29:47Throw him one.
- 29:49Yeah, my Surefire pick of the week is
- 29:51the Washington Manders and
- 29:53the New Orleans Saints
- 29:55over 43 and a half.
- 29:57Got to win one of these fucking things.
- 29:59So I'm just going back to all
- 30:01the titles and the title of
- 30:03Manders Overs.
- 30:05Manders coming off there by
- 30:07after absolutely destroying the Titans.
- 30:09Playing the Saints who
- 30:11I'm not even sure. I don't even think
- 30:13the Saints know who is going to start
- 30:15a quarterback this week.
- 30:17But it's not out of
- 30:19the question that the Manders will score
- 30:2135 to 40 on their own.
- 30:23So they may hit this
- 30:25themselves, but I think if the Saints
- 30:27can get a few on the board, this should be
- 30:29easy.
- 30:31So yeah, Saints or Manders Saints
- 30:33over 43 and a half.
- 30:35Surefire pick double unit guaranteed
- 30:37not to lose.
- 30:39Chris, you're already on camera, so
- 30:41go ahead.
- 30:43Oh, my bad.
- 30:45I
- 30:47have been burned
- 30:49by the Jacksonville Jaguars
- 30:51two weeks in a row against my
- 30:53Surefires.
- 30:55I'm not taking, I'm not betting against them again this week.
- 30:57I was really close to just
- 30:59making it my Surefire until it hits, but
- 31:01that's irresponsible and I suck
- 31:03and I need to win. So I'm going
- 31:05with my favorite
- 31:07quarterback in the NFL right now
- 31:09and my favorite head coach. I've been
- 31:11saying it all season. The Denver Broncos
- 31:13I'm taking them minus
- 31:15four against the Indianapolis Colts.
- 31:17Denver's defense
- 31:19very good, especially
- 31:21against the run. I think they can pretty much eliminate
- 31:23the Colts run game from this
- 31:25or from the equation
- 31:27and that means you're relying on old Tony
- 31:29Richardson to win you a football game
- 31:31and I
- 31:33don't think he's really
- 31:35capable of doing it. So
- 31:37I think the Broncos win, I think they
- 31:39win, I think this could be
- 31:41sneaky blowout, I think they win
- 31:43handily. Also
- 31:45worth noting Bronco is 6-0
- 31:47against the spread when their favorite this season.
- 31:49So let's make it 7-0.
- 31:51Broncos minus four, Sean
- 31:53Peyton, Bo, Nick, my two favorite
- 31:55people in the NFL who aren't
- 31:57associated with the Titans. I've
- 31:59said it all season long. Broncos
- 32:01minus four, sure fire. Will, what are you
- 32:03taking? Are you a
- 32:05Bo Lever? I am now.
- 32:07Actually, no, I've been all season.
- 32:09I don't know, I said that.
- 32:11Famously.
- 32:13Famously all season. Check the
- 32:15tapes. I said that since the day he was
- 32:17drafted. Check the
- 32:19pre-draft show of
- 32:21the NFL. Three for the mind. And you will
- 32:23see that Chris and all of us
- 32:25have always been Bo Nicks fans
- 32:27and will continue to be
- 32:29Bo Nicks fans. Until
- 32:31otherwise.
- 32:33I was
- 32:35pretty in the middle about it, but
- 32:37we were all
- 32:39100% on board.
- 32:41Yeah.
- 32:43Okay, my sure fire pick.
- 32:45So we kind
- 32:47of just talked about it. It's the Packers.
- 32:49I think they're
- 32:51I think they just really fucking
- 32:53need this win. And
- 32:55you know who else needs a fucking win?
- 32:57Me. Will.
- 32:59I need a fucking sure fire win.
- 33:01Give that to me, please.
- 33:03Please, Jordan Love.
- 33:05Deliver me. Deliver me.
- 33:07And against the spread
- 33:09win against the Seattle Seahawks.
- 33:11Please, if you can hear
- 33:13me, Jordan Love, please don't throw this game away.
- 33:15Please
- 33:17please save me, Jordan Love.
- 33:19Please help me.
- 33:21I will
- 33:23I will say that I looked up the Packers
- 33:25you know, playoff chances.
- 33:27If they win this game,
- 33:29they have a 99% chance
- 33:31of getting into the playoffs.
- 33:33So if they win this game,
- 33:35they can't clinch it,
- 33:37but it's all
- 33:39but clinched.
- 33:41Some weird shits gotta go down
- 33:43for them to not make it, you know.
- 33:45Does it say what the
- 33:47chances are if they lose?
- 33:49Yes, it does.
- 33:51And
- 33:53if they lose,
- 33:55they still have a 95%
- 33:57playoff. I was gonna say, yeah, they're pretty much done.
- 33:59Oh, well.
- 34:01Oh well, still taking it.
- 34:03Too late.
- 34:05Too late. Don't want to think about it. I was trying to be positive about it, Chris, and then
- 34:07and then you on the other
- 34:09side is like, but what if they lose?
- 34:11What if they lose?
- 34:13Just
- 34:15asking a question. I can't
- 34:17ask a question.
- 34:19I mean, you can, but
- 34:21apparently not. You're gonna get
- 34:23some sass, is all I'm saying.
- 34:25Can you just ask, we're just three guys
- 34:27talking ball. Can you
- 34:29even ask a question? I didn't know they were
- 34:31in a pretty good position like that.
- 34:33I mean, I knew they were
- 34:35a pretty good team this year. I didn't know that
- 34:37they were, I mean, they're
- 34:399-4. So they won 9 games.
- 34:41Yeah, they're good.
- 34:43Yeah, but like their third
- 34:45in their, it's like their third in their division.
- 34:47That's just
- 34:49what I think about, you know?
- 34:51Yeah, but
- 34:53their third in their division, but they still won 9 games.
- 34:55Like you can still make the playoffs
- 34:57even if you're third in the division.
- 34:59I mean, like if as long as you win
- 35:01you know, 10 plus games
- 35:03you're probably getting in.
- 35:05It is like mathematically,
- 35:07I haven't ran the numbers, but
- 35:09I believe it is possible for all
- 35:11four teams in the division to make the playoffs.
- 35:13Yeah, sure. Why not?
- 35:15I'm pretty like, that would
- 35:17be very hard to do. You pretty much
- 35:19have to split all your
- 35:21divisional games and then win every
- 35:23non-divisional game. But I believe
- 35:25that's, I don't know if it's ever been done.
- 35:27It's certainly possible.
- 35:29It's got to be possible.
- 35:31It's got to be not
- 35:33un-possible, right?
- 35:35Maybe some ties got to be thrown in there, but
- 35:37it's
- 35:39that is also possible.
- 35:41Yeah, it's possible.
- 35:43Yeah. I don't
- 35:45think we'll see that
- 35:47in the coming years. I don't even know, but I was just thinking like
- 35:49we're just having fun.
- 35:51Yeah. We're just having fun.
- 35:53Just talking ball. Just having some fun.
- 35:55Talking ball, talking numbers. It's fun.
- 35:57Yeah, we love numbers.
- 35:59You know, it's hard when
- 36:01you know, the Packers are, you know,
- 36:03I actually like
- 36:05have actually tried to build
- 36:07like a good football team and then the
- 36:09Vikings are just kind of dicking around
- 36:11and they just go
- 36:13and win 11 games. So
- 36:15like
- 36:17no.
- 36:19They weren't even like trying to be good.
- 36:21No, they're kind of in like a
- 36:23they're kind of in a rebuild
- 36:25phase. Like they won 11 games.
- 36:27They were going to start a rookie
- 36:29quarterback. So they were kind of just like, yeah,
- 36:31we'll see what happens.
- 36:33They're probably going to get
- 36:35a home playoff game.
- 36:37Yeah.
- 36:39Wild. I mean, I
- 36:41I fucking took the Packers to win the division.
- 36:43So
- 36:45that's already lost.
- 36:47So yeah, that's not gonna happen.
- 36:49No, it's I mean, it's no, it's not gonna
- 36:51happen because it's already lost.
- 36:53Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
- 36:55Well, yeah.
- 36:57Okay.
- 36:59Yeah, I'm on your right.
- 37:01It's what I said. It's not gonna happen.
- 37:03Yeah.
- 37:05Just say that it's lost. Just say it didn't
- 37:07happen. It didn't happen.
- 37:09Like it's not gonna happen implies that it
- 37:11still could happen. No,
- 37:13it implies that
- 37:15that it's not
- 37:17it implies that it's not a
- 37:19like it's not over.
- 37:21Yeah.
- 37:23It's over.
- 37:25You're an asshole.
- 37:27I mean, it's not gonna happen.
- 37:29You know, it's lost.
- 37:31It's it's it's gone.
- 37:33It's there was a point
- 37:35where it could it could have happened.
- 37:37But it's just not gonna happen.
- 37:39That shit's not happening.
- 37:41I don't
- 37:43it's just not happening.
- 37:45You know,
- 37:47all right.
- 37:49We get it.
- 37:51We get it.
- 37:53We get it.
- 37:55All right, let's
- 37:57let's move on here. Moving on.
- 37:59Now
- 38:01it's time for our extra plays of the week.
- 38:03Okay.
- 38:05You know what I I'll go first.
- 38:07I'll go first on this extra plays
- 38:09segment of the show this week.
- 38:11I only got two
- 38:13first play I got bucks
- 38:15chargers over 45 and a
- 38:17half. I think
- 38:19this game could rock as
- 38:21well.
- 38:23I think that
- 38:25chargers can stop the run,
- 38:27but I also think that they can't stop
- 38:29the pass.
- 38:31That's pretty much it.
- 38:33I think Baker is
- 38:35gonna sling it across the yard.
- 38:37It's the bake show. It's the bake.
- 38:39He's been putting this team on his back
- 38:41ever since his receivers went down
- 38:43on Thursday night football or Monday
- 38:45net football, whatever, whatever night
- 38:47football that was when they were playing
- 38:49the Ravens there.
- 38:51And
- 38:53bucks kind of need this game and
- 38:55the chargers always play
- 38:57everyone tough. So I'm taking over.
- 38:59I'm taking over 45 and a half.
- 39:01The next pick I got
- 39:03goes against
- 39:05Chris's surefire, but I'm throwing Chris's
- 39:07surefire in the surefire parley.
- 39:09Obviously I'm taking the Colts
- 39:11plus four. This is purely
- 39:13a trend center play.
- 39:15All right, I got a trend center
- 39:17stat for you.
- 39:19Fade good teams
- 39:21that consistently
- 39:23covered. Parentheses
- 39:25sell high. This is
- 39:27120,
- 39:2957, and 4
- 39:31against the spread.
- 39:33Colts plus four.
- 39:35And that's really
- 39:37all I got. So
- 39:39Chris, if you're done writing things down,
- 39:41I think that's what you're doing.
- 39:43I hear a click of a pen.
- 39:45It's your turn.
- 39:47All right. Well, I was actually just
- 39:49writing hateful things down about you
- 39:51since you're going against my surefire.
- 39:53I'm going to take your surefire.
- 39:55I'm going against yours.
- 39:57So it's fair.
- 39:59Exactly.
- 40:01Yeah, but
- 40:03okay, let's get into it. Kind of
- 40:05piggybacking off of one of Sean's
- 40:07or Alpha Sean's surefire.
- 40:09I'm taking the main just minus seven.
- 40:11I did that. I will say
- 40:13that was almost my surefire.
- 40:15Yeah, I think they beat this shit.
- 40:17The Saints could legitimately be the worst team in the NFL.
- 40:21Like with no Derek Carr,
- 40:23no Rashid Shikhi, Alakamara is their best
- 40:25player right now. And he only
- 40:27got like two yards of carry against the
- 40:29God awful Giants. So I just
- 40:31don't, I don't see how
- 40:33the Saints are going to be able to score.
- 40:35The Manders kind of need to get right performance
- 40:37after kind of limping into the bi-week
- 40:39despite what they did in the Titans.
- 40:41But yeah,
- 40:43Manders minus seven, I think they just boat
- 40:45racin'.
- 40:47Speaking to the Titans,
- 40:49Titans bingles over
- 40:5147 and a half, both defenses below.
- 40:53I
- 40:55I just, and I think
- 40:57the offense
- 40:59will get a lot of,
- 41:01will get their ass chewed all week
- 41:03and deservedly so after
- 41:05that just future performance.
- 41:07I think Brian Callahan, I don't want to say
- 41:09it's not really revenge, but kind of
- 41:11going to your former team, you kind of want to show
- 41:13out. I think the offense
- 41:15would be much better.
- 41:17Titans Stevens, it was
- 41:19once good. I think they're just kind of
- 41:21worn out at this point. They're always
- 41:23on the field, I think, and
- 41:25the bingles Stevens is trash. So yeah, over
- 41:2747 and a half.
- 41:29So yeah, 47 and a half.
- 41:31Last one.
- 41:33Stop the presses. The Carolina
- 41:35Panthers are a favorite
- 41:37in an NFL football game.
- 41:39Against who?
- 41:41The Dallas Cowboys.
- 41:43And I am taken
- 41:45that Carolina football Panthers
- 41:47minus two and a half
- 41:49against the Cowboys.
- 41:51You said plus. You said plus.
- 41:53Oh, I did. I thought I said
- 41:55minus. You said plus.
- 41:57We're just used to it.
- 41:59I know. I know.
- 42:01I know it's uncharted territory.
- 42:03We got to get it right though.
- 42:05They are favorites
- 42:07in a football game.
- 42:09And like a regular season game
- 42:11in the year of our lord 2024.
- 42:13Well, yeah, of course it's regular season.
- 42:15They're not making a postseason. Well, I'm saying it's not like the preseason.
- 42:17No, okay.
- 42:19Nice. But yes, Panthers
- 42:21minus
- 42:23minus two and a half
- 42:25um, Christ, yeah.
- 42:29Is he kind of like
- 42:31really good all of a sudden?
- 42:33I mean, he just, you know, he just needs some
- 42:35throw. It's the NFL. It's big leagues.
- 42:37It's
- 42:39wild. I mean, we thought like when
- 42:41he got bitched, just like, okay, well, he's done.
- 42:43He's never going to play again.
- 42:45And then now he's like
- 42:47kind of like not just like service.
- 42:49Well, he's kind of like legitimately good.
- 42:51Panthers are playing really tough right now.
- 42:55And the Cowboys, man, I don't know.
- 42:57I don't know where their mentors are at
- 42:59after just a debilitating loss
- 43:01on Monday night football.
- 43:03Micah Parsons looks like he's about done.
- 43:05I just really
- 43:07don't know where this team's heads at. They might just be
- 43:09counting down, get to the offseason.
- 43:11Let's go play some golf.
- 43:13So yeah, Panthers minus two and a half
- 43:15to round it out. And that is the
- 43:17card. Sean,
- 43:19what's the rest of your slate?
- 43:21All right.
- 43:23I'm going to take the bingle spread
- 43:25no matter what it is.
- 43:27I think it opened
- 43:29at four and a half. I think it went up
- 43:31to five and a half today.
- 43:33I kind of expected to go up a little bit more.
- 43:35Titans fucking suck.
- 43:39I think Jamar Chase
- 43:41is going to absolutely cook
- 43:43this defense alive.
- 43:47I also play against Jamar
- 43:49in fantasy in the first week
- 43:51of fantasy playoffs.
- 43:53He just dropped what, 45 points
- 43:55last week.
- 43:57So I'm at least going to make
- 43:59some money off this game.
- 44:01I do not like
- 44:03that over. I'll just say it
- 44:05because I don't think the Titans are going to be able to score.
- 44:07I think if they can get
- 44:0917 points,
- 44:11this hits.
- 44:13Okay, that's fair.
- 44:15I'm going to be real.
- 44:17I think this defense is godawful.
- 44:21I cannot bet
- 44:23on this game.
- 44:25I just won't do it.
- 44:27I mean, as a
- 44:29respective fan, you shouldn't.
- 44:33No, either way. Either way, I bet
- 44:35on this fucking team. I always lose.
- 44:39Always.
- 44:41I can't do it anymore.
- 44:43I just can't do it. You had him on Monday night though, right?
- 44:45That was like 13 weeks ago.
- 44:49Yeah, but you had him though.
- 44:51You made some money off of him.
- 44:53I have lost.
- 44:55Don't say you never make money off of him.
- 44:57I've lost way, way more.
- 44:59I've lost that money I won
- 45:01a long time ago on this team.
- 45:03I did see
- 45:05a thing today. I think it's through
- 45:0715 weeks of this year
- 45:09through 14 weeks this season.
- 45:11This Titan team
- 45:13has the worst against the spread record
- 45:15of all time
- 45:17with 2 and 12. Would you care
- 45:19to guess who
- 45:21or 2 and 12? Would you care to guess
- 45:23who the second worst
- 45:25team against the spread is?
- 45:27Oh, it's through 14 weeks of this season.
- 45:29Is it us?
- 45:31Yes. It's the
- 45:332014 Titans who are 3 and 11.
- 45:35I saw that
- 45:39the Titans have to win out
- 45:41to match
- 45:43Mike Vravel's worst record
- 45:45with the team.
- 45:47I'm going to take this
- 45:49and take this
- 45:51which would have been last year.
- 45:53There it is.
- 45:55We fucking suck.
- 45:57I'm going to take this
- 45:59Bengal spread
- 46:01whatever it is.
- 46:03Hedging joy, whatever you want to call it.
- 46:05I
- 46:07won't even really feel
- 46:09joyful if the Titans just win out
- 46:11right.
- 46:13What's the point?
- 46:15I'm like
- 46:17maybe I'll feel something just because
- 46:19we fucked over the Bengals
- 46:21a little bit
- 46:23for making playoffs. Maybe just something
- 46:25but it's not going to be much.
- 46:27I felt pretty awful when I bet
- 46:29against them
- 46:31when they were playing the Texans and we beat them
- 46:33handedly.
- 46:35Yeah, I felt like shit.
- 46:37I felt like shit.
- 46:39I felt pretty bad.
- 46:41Oh yeah. I didn't touch that game.
- 46:43And you know what Chris?
- 46:45I shouldn't have touched it either.
- 46:47You were smart.
- 46:49I do think that
- 46:51I agree with Will that I think
- 46:53other than that Miami game
- 46:55I think I've lost pretty much every bet
- 46:57I've played. Whether it's spreads
- 46:59over, under, under, anything.
- 47:01Yeah.
- 47:03Great. I don't think about that.
- 47:05I'm not betting them every week
- 47:07but I think I am.
- 47:09But yeah, it's usually
- 47:11I just can't do it.
- 47:13I just can't do it anymore.
- 47:15Anyway, anyway I tackle this
- 47:17I'm going to lose except for that one time
- 47:19on Monday Night Football.
- 47:21I will say that my thought process behind this
- 47:23this is not like I mean I have the overs
- 47:25so it's definitely not a bet on the Titans.
- 47:27I'm not expecting to play well. I think this could be
- 47:29a game you look up the Bengals have
- 47:3130 at halftime.
- 47:33Yeah.
- 47:35Yeah, exactly.
- 47:37I don't want to bet against this because I just
- 47:39like I will.
- 47:41I'll do it.
- 47:43I feel like most of the time
- 47:45great I think I've only done a handful of times
- 47:47most times when I've done that we won
- 47:49outright.
- 47:51I think the most notable I bet against
- 47:53us when we played the Chiefs
- 47:55at home like
- 47:57when we won that Block Field
- 47:59goal.
- 48:01That was a while ago. Yeah, I had the Chiefs
- 48:03minus seven. That was so long ago.
- 48:05Yeah.
- 48:07That's a big number.
- 48:09Yeah, we were terrible.
- 48:11We weren't there.
- 48:13Oh yeah.
- 48:15Yeah.
- 48:17No, that had to have been Bovada
- 48:19days, dude.
- 48:21Maybe it was. I thought it was first year.
- 48:23That was Tannehill's first year.
- 48:25That was a Bovada day because
- 48:27that Super Bowl
- 48:29we used Bovada.
- 48:31Was it that year?
- 48:33Yeah.
- 48:35Well, yeah.
- 48:37I bet it. I remember it.
- 48:39I remember we won and it was awesome.
- 48:41I was very happy.
- 48:43The small part
- 48:45we were just like
- 48:47dang.
- 48:49I was going to be wrong.
- 48:5199.5% joy
- 48:53but just that degenerate
- 48:55and we were like
- 48:57fucking assholes.
- 49:01Sorry Sean.
- 49:03I just rest your picks.
- 49:05No, you're good.
- 49:07I got some more picks.
- 49:09That was great.
- 49:11We need a little vent.
- 49:13I've also got the Chargers
- 49:15minus three.
- 49:17Bucks were on a three game win streak
- 49:19but
- 49:21they've played the Raiders,
- 49:23the Panthers and the Giants.
- 49:25Chargers are seven
- 49:27and one against the spread this season
- 49:29as favorites.
- 49:31I just think the Chargers are the better team by far.
- 49:33And then I've got
- 49:35the Arizona Cardinals
- 49:37minus six and a half.
- 49:39Cardinals are a good team
- 49:41but they've lost
- 49:43three straight
- 49:45after their bye week
- 49:47including two to the Seahawks.
- 49:49What better than a get right game
- 49:51than the New England Patriots
- 49:53coming to town?
- 49:55I mean
- 49:57if they want to stay in it
- 49:59they've got to win this game
- 50:01and they've got to win it big.
- 50:03They've got to put their nuts
- 50:05on the table pretty much.
- 50:07So give me the Cardinals minus six and a half.
- 50:09Check the Twitter
- 50:11for the two Monday Night Games
- 50:13as well because we do have
- 50:15two Monday Night Games this week.
- 50:17We do.
- 50:19Yes, we've got the Bears, Vikings
- 50:21and the Falcons.
- 50:25Raiders.
- 50:27Yes, the Raiders.
- 50:29Desmond Ritter revenge game potentially.
- 50:31Yes, Desmond Ritter is going against
- 50:33his former team at home.
- 50:35Desmond Ritter?
- 50:37Alright.
- 50:39A new economy star.
- 50:41I don't know if that's actually
- 50:43a low negative.
- 50:45Alright, that's okay.
- 50:47Depending on how, if I have a really good week,
- 50:49big ol' if there, but if I have a good week
- 50:51I might just bow on the Raiders for fun.
- 50:53Yeah.
- 50:55No, I'll see. Check the Twitter.
- 50:57Yeah, check the Twitter.
- 50:59It's too early. I didn't feel like doing research
- 51:01into two Monday Night Games, so.
- 51:03They both still, like,
- 51:05both of these games are stake.
- 51:07Yeah, they, yeah.
- 51:09Like, I get Bears, Vikings,
- 51:11pre-season could've been
- 51:13like a decent game.
- 51:15Falcons, Raiders.
- 51:17Like, what was the...
- 51:19I can know the Falcons
- 51:21were like, hey, that could be
- 51:23pretty good.
- 51:25Did anyone have any
- 51:27expectations for the Raiders to not be
- 51:29just
- 51:31anything better than mediocre at an S?
- 51:33I don't know. They gotta get some prime time
- 51:35shit, or whatever,
- 51:37whatever the...
- 51:39They're kinda like that, so yeah, they just get the
- 51:41stinky slate.
- 51:43I think I, uh...
- 51:45I think I had the Raiders
- 51:47over six and a half wins on the season
- 51:49during our
- 51:51pre-season shows.
- 51:53How many wins did they got?
- 51:55Four.
- 51:57Yeah, you know, it's week 14.
- 51:59Week 15, Will.
- 52:01You know, it's week 15.
- 52:03They gotta win out.
- 52:05Pretty much. You gotta win out.
- 52:07I didn't actually place that one, but
- 52:09I did, I guess,
- 52:11I don't know.
- 52:13I had to even bring it up.
- 52:15I would think, at the end of the season,
- 52:17I would be like, man, Will, that Raiders over.
- 52:19Not looking good.
- 52:21Well, I mean, you know,
- 52:23I like how he started out.
- 52:25I like how he started out.
- 52:27I think... I like how he started out.
- 52:29He was like, I think that I placed a future,
- 52:31and then it was like
- 52:3330 seconds later. I didn't place it, but...
- 52:35Well, I had the...
- 52:37It was a pick that we went over
- 52:39in our weeks leading up
- 52:41to the season of our
- 52:43Fun with Future series.
- 52:45Um...
- 52:47I gave it out, but I didn't place it.
- 52:49Well, I'm...
- 52:51Yeah, because I'm...
- 52:53I'm glad I didn't.
- 52:55It's not looking good.
- 52:57What if some poor bloke
- 52:59was just like, that's a really good point, Will.
- 53:01I think I'll take that.
- 53:03Raiders are 2-11, actually, so...
- 53:05Oh, so that's a loser.
- 53:07Yeah, it's probably not gonna happen.
- 53:09They definitely have to...
- 53:11No, that's...
- 53:13Help me out.
- 53:15No, that's... it's lost.
- 53:17It's not happening.
- 53:19It's not gonna happen.
- 53:21It's not gonna happen.
- 53:23It's not gonna happen.
- 53:25It's not gonna happen.
- 53:27I was high on the Raiders, too.
- 53:29Honestly, I wasn't...
- 53:31I didn't bet it like a windtower.
- 53:33I think what I loved, Antonio Pierce, last year,
- 53:35he was my dog.
- 53:37And then, like, God, this team sucks.
- 53:39Yeah, yeah.
- 53:41And then I was down on the Chargers.
- 53:43I was, too.
- 53:45I think I've...
- 53:47I bet a bunch of futures.
- 53:49I don't remember exactly.
- 53:51I think I bet they're under, as well.
- 53:53Yeah.
- 53:55I believe I gave that pick out.
- 53:57I didn't take it.
- 53:59No integrity in this game anymore, apparently.
- 54:03All right. What?
- 54:05I'm gonna switch gears.
- 54:07Do you guys...
- 54:09Do you hear about this?
- 54:11Do you hear about this?
- 54:13Of this Ohio State representative
- 54:16introducing the OHIO Sportsmanship Act yesterday.
- 54:21What?
- 54:23Will, do you know about this?
- 54:25No.
- 54:27I know Chris knows about this, but...
- 54:29The OHIO Sportsmanship Act
- 54:31would make it a felony
- 54:33to plant a flag
- 54:35at Center Field
- 54:37on Ohio Stadium.
- 54:39First, I...
- 54:41Before we get into it, I think we can all agree
- 54:43that this is indeed a crime.
- 54:47It's criminal.
- 54:49And it is definitely on the same level as
- 54:51murder, arson,
- 54:53human trafficking,
- 54:55sexual assault.
- 54:57I mean, this is a felony charge, is it not?
- 54:59And I mean, like...
- 55:01What do you guys think?
- 55:03I mean, this sounds like a felony to me.
- 55:05To planting a flag
- 55:07on your rival's stadium,
- 55:09Center Field, 50-yard line.
- 55:11I mean, that's just...
- 55:13That's a felony, dude.
- 55:15That's jail time.
- 55:17Are they gonna arrest me?
- 55:19Yeah, they're going to jail.
- 55:21You're going to prison.
- 55:23You are going to prison. That's a felony.
- 55:25I'm not made for the clink.
- 55:27I have the same stance on this
- 55:29as I had on my college basketball course storming thing.
- 55:31But the snipers in the stadium just shoot them.
- 55:33Yeah, just...
- 55:35Yeah, I mean, they're obviously criminals.
- 55:37Right?
- 55:39But...
- 55:41And this should definitely be...
- 55:43Like I said, this is definitely
- 55:45on the same track as murder.
- 55:47Yeah.
- 55:49Yeah.
- 55:51I would say that's the softest...
- 55:53This is the most butt-hurt thing
- 55:55I've ever seen in my life, dude.
- 55:57I know that I said that,
- 55:59I've probably been in Tennessee over a barrel,
- 56:01but they are just so...
- 56:03I mean, Ryan Day is such a mental midget.
- 56:05He is...
- 56:07God...
- 56:09I hate...
- 56:11I hate them.
- 56:13Just not as normal, I hate Ohio State fashion.
- 56:15I just...
- 56:17They are just not fun.
- 56:19They are...
- 56:21They're kind of a pain in the ass.
- 56:23Yeah.
- 56:25Yeah, I saw that.
- 56:27And I thought it was like
- 56:29an onion article or something.
- 56:31Yeah, this whole thing
- 56:33reads like an onion article.
- 56:35I mean...
- 56:37I don't remember this
- 56:39representative's name,
- 56:41but this dude is a pussy.
- 56:43Yeah.
- 56:45Representative bitch from Ohio.
- 56:47Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
- 56:49Representative bitch from Ohio.
- 56:53Your turn to take the stand.
- 56:55Your turn on the floor.
- 56:57Thank you.
- 56:59Thank you.
- 57:01Introduce the OHIO Sportsmanship Act.
- 57:03Get fucked, dude.
- 57:05Representative bitch.
- 57:07I didn't read this because...
- 57:09You are a bitch.
- 57:11I didn't read the article because it makes me furious.
- 57:13Is it just out of Ohio State?
- 57:15Or is it all football stadiums
- 57:17in the state of Ohio?
- 57:19I believe the way that I read it
- 57:21was
- 57:23to plant a flag
- 57:25at Center Field
- 57:27and the stadium
- 57:29would be a felony.
- 57:31I'm not sure if that
- 57:33translates to other
- 57:35colleges
- 57:37or high schools
- 57:39in the state of Ohio.
- 57:43I just didn't know if you guys were like Bowling Green
- 57:45or Ohio or anywhere like that.
- 57:47And you're like, hey, I feel like planting a flag right here.
- 57:49And it's like, oh yeah, just go ahead.
- 57:51It's only Columbus worth a felony.
- 57:53Yeah.
- 57:55So is it stadiums in Ohio?
- 57:57Or is it Ohio Stadium?
- 57:59Ohio Stadium.
- 58:01Is that where Ohio State plays at Ohio Stadium?
- 58:03Correct.
- 58:05It doesn't have a name?
- 58:07No.
- 58:09The shoe.
- 58:11Is it the shoe?
- 58:13Well, the horseshoe.
- 58:15But that's a nickname.
- 58:17Yeah.
- 58:19Hmm.
- 58:21But yeah.
- 58:23It's just called Ohio Stadium.
- 58:25I mean,
- 58:27it's, you know, it's a historic.
- 58:29That's pretty fucking lame.
- 58:31What do you want to be called?
- 58:33The
- 58:35the bitch stadium
- 58:37for bitches.
- 58:39Okay.
- 58:41Nobody likes Ohio.
- 58:43It's very true.
- 58:45It's a meme, actually.
- 58:47I don't mind it.
- 58:49I like it.
- 58:51It's a cool state.
- 58:53I like Cincinnati.
- 58:55That's barely Ohio.
- 58:57I know, but it's still
- 58:59that's barely Ohio.
- 59:01I know, but still.
- 59:03I've enjoyed my time in
- 59:05I've long been to Cleveland
- 59:07twice.
- 59:09Saw the Simpsons movie in Cleveland.
- 59:11That was pretty cool.
- 59:13Yeah, that's a good movie.
- 59:15Yeah.
- 59:17No, I mean, it's a pretty big meme.
- 59:19One time we went to Cleveland
- 59:21and we saw the Simpsons movie.
- 59:23The second time we went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
- 59:25It was great.
- 59:27It was like, oh, what else do you do?
- 59:29Nothing.
- 59:31Went home.
- 59:33But
- 59:35Yeah, there was just no
- 59:37showings in my local area.
- 59:39It's like we had to go to
- 59:41the Simpsons movie.
- 59:43I thought it said Cleveland, Tennessee.
- 59:45And then I just
- 59:47kept going.
- 59:49It started
- 59:51snowing on the way there.
- 59:53I was like, what's going on?
- 59:55It's like, well, those mapquests take me on a crazy route.
- 59:57There was this huge lake, too.
- 59:59I'll never forget.
- 1:00:01There was this huge lake on
- 1:00:03It's pretty great.
- 1:00:05Yeah.
- 1:00:07Yeah.
- 1:00:09Yeah, Ohio sucks.
- 1:00:11I hope Tennessee, I hope Tennessee
- 1:00:13beats the wheels off Ohio State.
- 1:00:15Yeah, I'm terrified.
- 1:00:17Yeah, you probably should be a little
- 1:00:19terrified.
- 1:00:21Oh, I am.
- 1:00:23I'm worried if, I mean, we're going to get
- 1:00:25it's either going to be
- 1:00:27they come out pissed off playing like a
- 1:00:29National Championship Calvert team, which they
- 1:00:31are on paper.
- 1:00:33And they whoop us.
- 1:00:35Or they've just completely given up and they
- 1:00:37roll over and die and right.
- 1:00:39Which I think Ohio's defend would rather have.
- 1:00:41From
- 1:00:43the stuff I've seen online, it's like
- 1:00:45we're not winning a National Championship
- 1:00:47of this guy.
- 1:00:49So just lose on Saturday
- 1:00:51or next Saturday and let's fire
- 1:00:53them and get this over with.
- 1:00:57Yep.
- 1:00:59Well, I mean, wait, who
- 1:01:01wait, you're saying fire.
- 1:01:03Oh, I said, okay, I've thought
- 1:01:05you're talking about 10. I was like, oh god, what?
- 1:01:07No, I was tired.
- 1:01:09I was like, I'm going to fire Bobby Hill.
- 1:01:11No, I would. I would die for that.
- 1:01:13No, Ryan, I think most
- 1:01:15Ohio State fans are like, you have to win
- 1:01:17the National Championship or
- 1:01:19fuck off.
- 1:01:21So would you
- 1:01:23would you want
- 1:01:25Tennessee to win the National
- 1:01:27Championship and
- 1:01:29them just
- 1:01:31never ever ever
- 1:01:33just sniff
- 1:01:35greatness ever again.
- 1:01:37Yeah, not even a question.
- 1:01:39No, not even a question. I would do that
- 1:01:41for any of my teams.
- 1:01:43I mean, I think this question is
- 1:01:45proposed many times on the show,
- 1:01:47but
- 1:01:49to just never ever ever sniff
- 1:01:51greatness, you'll never have
- 1:01:53like, you know, a breakout player.
- 1:01:55You'll never have a great coach.
- 1:01:57You'll be bottom of the barrel. You'll win two, three
- 1:01:59games a year.
- 1:02:01And you know, those against those dog shit
- 1:02:03non-conference teams.
- 1:02:05Yeah, I've
- 1:02:07yeah, I would in a heartbeat.
- 1:02:09I, none of my teams
- 1:02:11and we've had this discussion too. None of my
- 1:02:13teams are in a position
- 1:02:15at the moment where they will be
- 1:02:17where they will win
- 1:02:19a championship in the next 10 years. Really, other
- 1:02:21than Tennessee football and you can say Tennessee basketball.
- 1:02:23So I've already
- 1:02:25accepted. I've accepted
- 1:02:27that none of my teams will ever
- 1:02:29win a title. I've just accepted it
- 1:02:31because it's
- 1:02:33it's got to happen.
- 1:02:35So if I can get one
- 1:02:37yeah, take me now.
- 1:02:39Yeah, whatever happens after that.
- 1:02:41So given the college
- 1:02:43football playoffs
- 1:02:45what do you personally
- 1:02:47think is the
- 1:02:49easiest slash
- 1:02:51best
- 1:02:53path that
- 1:02:55Tennessee can take
- 1:02:57to win the national championship?
- 1:02:59Who do they have to play after Ohio State
- 1:03:01and so on?
- 1:03:03Who do you think would be
- 1:03:05their most
- 1:03:07or easiest opponents
- 1:03:09going forward?
- 1:03:11Well, I mean, if they beat Ohio State
- 1:03:13then they do have
- 1:03:15Oregon which
- 1:03:17that's brutal because they are
- 1:03:19the best team in the country.
- 1:03:21But I mean
- 1:03:23one game you never know
- 1:03:25plus it's neutral site so
- 1:03:27you never know.
- 1:03:29And then after that
- 1:03:31I mean
- 1:03:33if we were to beat Oregon
- 1:03:35we'd need
- 1:03:37Arizona State to beat either
- 1:03:39Clemson or Texas, probably Texas
- 1:03:41not going to happen
- 1:03:43and we need Boise State to beat
- 1:03:45whoever they play in the first round
- 1:03:47and then probably Georgia
- 1:03:49and first we lined up to be
- 1:03:51a Tennessee Boise State national championship.
- 1:03:53If you're talking
- 1:03:55if you're talking easiest that would
- 1:03:57have to be.
- 1:03:59Arizona State, we need a lot of shit to happen.
- 1:04:01That's
- 1:04:03really sounds like a college football
- 1:04:0525 national championship.
- 1:04:07Yeah, it does.
- 1:04:09Tennessee Boise.
- 1:04:13That would be as just
- 1:04:15I mean even if I wasn't a Tennessee fan
- 1:04:17just as a college football sicko
- 1:04:19I would love that. I can see how
- 1:04:21if you are casual
- 1:04:23why would you give a shit about that?
- 1:04:25Yeah
- 1:04:27but I would love it
- 1:04:29obviously.
- 1:04:31If Boise State makes a national championship
- 1:04:33I'm jumping for joy
- 1:04:35just because I
- 1:04:37It's awesome.
- 1:04:39Yeah, that's cool.
- 1:04:41Isn't that awesome? Like
- 1:04:43who would have thought?
- 1:04:45Yeah, I will say that
- 1:04:47like I'm glad I am like
- 1:04:49just for
- 1:04:51you know this part of
- 1:04:53the game.
- 1:04:55So it's new
- 1:04:57for this
- 1:04:59college football playoff scheme
- 1:05:01that they've come up with.
- 1:05:03It is good
- 1:05:05that we don't have some team
- 1:05:07like TCU
- 1:05:09coming in at four
- 1:05:11again and just getting bitch slapped.
- 1:05:13You know
- 1:05:15they'll have to
- 1:05:17work their way.
- 1:05:19If you
- 1:05:21know these teams
- 1:05:23SMU, Boise State
- 1:05:25like if they're
- 1:05:27for real they got to show it.
- 1:05:29Yeah
- 1:05:31I get what you're saying but like
- 1:05:33you don't just have to win one game
- 1:05:35and you're in the nanny.
- 1:05:37You have to prove yourself.
- 1:05:39I've seen that kind of going around. Not just this year
- 1:05:41it's just years
- 1:05:43since it happens.
- 1:05:45Another team like TCU
- 1:05:47kind of
- 1:05:49like handled an undefeated
- 1:05:51Michigan team.
- 1:05:53Yeah but
- 1:05:55they did get
- 1:05:57bitch slapped.
- 1:05:59People saying like oh they never
- 1:06:01even belong there.
- 1:06:03They did what they had
- 1:06:05to do.
- 1:06:07So I think it's
- 1:06:09little and yes I
- 1:06:11losing 63-7 is
- 1:06:13very very very very bad.
- 1:06:15But
- 1:06:17just seeing a lot of people
- 1:06:19being like oh they never even deserve to be there.
- 1:06:21They lost one game
- 1:06:23it was on a walkoff field going to
- 1:06:25conference championship and they beat an undefeated
- 1:06:27Michigan. So they deserve to be there.
- 1:06:29Wasn't saying that but
- 1:06:31it's
- 1:06:33more just like you
- 1:06:35work your way to actually get there
- 1:06:37now. The cream rises to
- 1:06:39the cream.
- 1:06:41Cream.
- 1:06:437
- 1:06:45I'm excited.
- 1:06:47Who you play?
- 1:06:49What was that?
- 1:06:51You play who you play?
- 1:06:53Yeah this is going to be a lot of fun
- 1:06:55weekends of football ahead of us.
- 1:06:57With Saturdays
- 1:06:59of football play or college playoff
- 1:07:01and then you get NFL playoff
- 1:07:03rates on Sunday and then leading
- 1:07:05into the actual playoffs.
- 1:07:07It's going to be sick.
- 1:07:09Yeah.
- 1:07:11The college football playoff
- 1:07:13is starting
- 1:07:15next week.
- 1:07:17Two weeks.
- 1:07:19I think that's the 21st.
- 1:07:21Is it? Okay.
- 1:07:23That's the 21st.
- 1:07:25My dates are all off this month.
- 1:07:27I
- 1:07:29Yeah.
- 1:07:31That sounds right.
- 1:07:33Well next Saturday is the 21st.
- 1:07:35So if it starts a week
- 1:07:37from Saturday then
- 1:07:39yeah.
- 1:07:41It's going to be a week before Christmas.
- 1:07:43Because yeah this week is Army Navy
- 1:07:45and then some whole game
- 1:07:47and then
- 1:07:49yeah we get into it.
- 1:07:51Which president is showing up to the Army
- 1:07:53Navy game?
- 1:07:55Which one?
- 1:07:57Both. It's like a fight.
- 1:07:59That's the real election.
- 1:08:01I wouldn't hate that.
- 1:08:03That's how we decide president is
- 1:08:05Greco Roman wrestling at midfield
- 1:08:07the Army Navy game.
- 1:08:09Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson
- 1:08:11Army Navy game.
- 1:08:13Jake Paul gets the loser.
- 1:08:15Trump.
- 1:08:23Oh Jesus.
- 1:08:25I mean
- 1:08:27shit man. Don't be surprised.
- 1:08:29When
- 1:08:31we were talking about the Vikings.
- 1:08:33Jake Paul I'm going to fight the president.
- 1:08:35Oh
- 1:08:37I don't have any
- 1:08:39hold areas.
- 1:08:41Real quick I want to bring this up.
- 1:08:43We talked about those changing gears but we talked about the Vikings
- 1:08:45how they weren't
- 1:08:47supposed to be here.
- 1:08:49I saw someone and
- 1:08:51at first I was like this is ridiculous but then more thought
- 1:08:53was like they should
- 1:08:55I think they should do this. Should the Vikings trade
- 1:08:57JJ McCarthy
- 1:08:59and keep Sam Darnold as their guy.
- 1:09:01No.
- 1:09:03Why not?
- 1:09:06I mean just I mean you you gain nothing and
- 1:09:12But you don't I don't know it's it's you don't really lose anything
- 1:09:17But you don't really gain anything either just just don't even mess with it like I think I mean
- 1:09:25You have a guy who is proven he can be a starting quarterback in this league
- 1:09:29And you're rolling the dice on JJ McCarthy who?
- 1:09:32I've been wrong many times in my opinion. I don't think he's that good, but
- 1:09:39And Sam Brown was only 27 his on keys dirty. I think he
- 1:09:47I
- 1:09:48Will not because you're trading away your first round draft pick before even stepped on the field and kind of makes you look
- 1:09:54idiot, but I
- 1:09:56I I was like, I get at first. I was like that's ridiculous. I
- 1:10:01Kind of get it honestly like how hard it is to find a starting quarterback in the NFL when you have one
- 1:10:09And you're gonna get you like you're gonna have a home playoff game. You're gonna win 13 ish games at least
- 1:10:16Hard and hard is like hey, thanks, but thanks pal ride the bench or kick rocks
- 1:10:21Yeah, but I mean like you know
- 1:10:26Could be a fluke year
- 1:10:28This year, I mean it definitely could be
- 1:10:31Like but I just thought you you have a guy who has shown he can win versus the guy you kind of know nothing about
- 1:10:38but obviously they like JJ else I want to
- 1:10:41Also don't want that to happen because I
- 1:10:44Want the Titans get some
- 1:10:46You want the Titans to get Sam Donald why not
- 1:10:52That I don't know
- 1:10:54I don't think we're gonna draft quarterback. So bring it in this year. Yes. I'm saying bring him in
- 1:11:00Flavus sucks next season
- 1:11:03same same time
- 1:11:05Sammy D
- 1:11:07The always reliable same. Yeah, definitely always I feel like if I
- 1:11:13Mean you might as well keep him another year and then have McCarthy on the bench. I
- 1:11:21Don't know. I think he was I don't know what his deal was he might be a free agent after this season
- 1:11:26So I don't know if they'll have
- 1:11:28An option to keep them
- 1:11:34Because he's gonna he's gonna start next year for someone
- 1:11:38Mm-hmm, so
- 1:11:40If he's a free agent. Yeah, he's a he's a same Donald on a one-year deal when you're $10 million. Yeah, oh
- 1:11:49Nice
- 1:11:51Well, I I then that's like no you shouldn't trade JJ then
- 1:11:59Yeah, I mean like this this dude's probably gonna get paid somewhere else. I mean, but you could pay
- 1:12:05He's not gonna get like he's not gonna get a shit ton of money. You'll get like a middle of the road
- 1:12:11Whatever Gino got something like that
- 1:12:15Yeah, like a four million
- 1:12:17Yeah, not for a four year something whatever double-digit million dollar deal like yeah, like very much like
- 1:12:26We're committed to you, but you have to also
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- 1:12:31Yeah, like you're not like our franchise guy right now. That's such a Titans move, dude. Oh my god
- 1:12:39I mean
- 1:12:44Like it let him learn a few things from Will Leviss
- 1:12:49Bring him I think bring him as a backup. Let us go to hell put in Sam Donald
- 1:12:54Just a bunch of white guys
- 1:12:56What's all the NFL is?
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