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- 1:00S2: Uh oh. Well, good morning everybody.
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- 1:07S2: It's. You're listening to Carl and crew. My name is
- 1:09S2: not Carl. I'm young Thunder, but Carl's just getting a
- 1:12S2: little bit of his breakfast in right now, and that's okay.
- 1:14S6: And it's.
- 1:15S2: Good. And it's good. What are you eating, Carl?
- 1:17S6: Beef sticks.
- 1:18S2: Beef sticks. Sticks.
- 1:19S6: Beef sticks from Costco.
- 1:21S2: Is that.
- 1:21S6: Good? Oh. They're tremendous. It's tremendous. I don't have time
- 1:25S6: to cook an egg. Or else I would have had that.
- 1:27S2: Well that's true. You're not getting up early and cooking
- 1:29S2: an egg and getting on your way. No, you gotta
- 1:30S2: you gotta grab something quick and and most of the time, packaged.
- 1:33S2: I do the same thing. I can't, can't get all
- 1:36S2: that stuff. Just sitting home and cooking around the oven
- 1:37S2: in the stove. Not gonna happen. But you're listening to
- 1:40S2: Carl and crew. I'm young Thunder, and this week we're
- 1:43S2: finishing up right now. Ask the experts week. This has
- 1:45S2: been an incredible week, hasn't it?
- 1:47S6: Yeah it has. And if you heard some mumbling going
- 1:49S6: on in the background that was super Di teeing up
- 1:51S6: our next guest little production. So Young Thunder's Young Thunder's
- 1:57S6: live on air and everything going. Dum dum dum dum
- 2:02S6: dum dum. Excuse me. Oh, man. Well, we're a train
- 2:06S6: wreck between the three of us.
- 2:08S2: Wait wait wait. No no no no. I was talking
- 2:09S2: to her. I was great, I wasn't eating breakfast, nor
- 2:11S2: was I talking to a guest in the background, so
- 2:13S2: I'm good.
- 2:13S7: Carl.
- 2:14S6: Oh, yeah. You're right. Young Thunder was good.
- 2:16S7: Whatever.
- 2:17S6: Super knives over there.
- 2:18S7: Little brother.
- 2:20S3: It sounded like a Charlie Brown adult.
- 2:22S6: And I'm trying to swallow beef sausage here, and I
- 2:25S6: am having a hard time. You notice the more you
- 2:27S6: try to force something down, the harder it goes.
- 2:30S2: Yes, absolutely.
- 2:31S3: It's crazy.
- 2:32S2: I've been caught with that, like, uh, on on newscasts
- 2:35S2: that we've done here. Little inside radio is, you know,
- 2:39S2: I've tried to. I'm. I'm miss gauging how long I
- 2:42S2: have left to chew this food before the song's over
- 2:44S2: and before a newscast starts, and, uh, and sometimes I'm like,
- 2:48S2: there's too much in my mouth to do any reading,
- 2:50S2: so I have to just, you know, go AWOL on
- 2:53S2: the bite and spit it out. And I lost that,
- 2:57S2: but I'll have to start over later.
- 2:59S7: And I'm like, okay, I guess it's time for the weather. Yeah.
- 3:03S6: You guys are cracking me up.
- 3:04S3: Oh, man. We came.
- 3:05S6: We came in wired for sound. You got something you
- 3:07S6: want to share? You're flapping papers around in there.
- 3:12S3: This is.
- 3:12S2: A good.
- 3:13S3: Morning.
- 3:13S7: Just ready for our guests, that's all.
- 3:15S3: Wow.
- 3:16S6: Okay, well, let me help you here. We'll play along.
- 3:19S7: No.
- 3:20S6: There we go. Now, everybody's got a little fun in
- 3:23S6: the action here.
- 3:24S3: Starting crazy.
- 3:24S6: Speaking of fun, she's coming up straight ahead. She's a
- 3:28S6: crazy lady. That's why I like her. Crazy. In a
- 3:31S6: good way. Doctor Elizabeth Smith, we're going to be talking
- 3:34S6: a ton of cool stuff, but we're going to stay
- 3:36S6: in Elizabeth's wheelhouse, which is really cultivating this passion for
- 3:41S6: Christ through education and sanctification and growing up into him.
- 3:47S6: She's a children's ministry expert as well. Do you guys
- 3:50S6: know that?
- 3:50S3: I did know that I did.
- 3:51S6: So let's start with children's ministries, because we got a
- 3:54S6: lot of people that love that area of the world.
- 3:56S6: Hang on, Elizabeth Smith, straight ahead.
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- 4:03S1: Ask the Experts week with Carl and crew.
- 4:06S6: Well, here we are. It's Ask the Experts and we're
- 4:09S6: on a Freedom Friday. It's funny because if I think freedom,
- 4:13S6: I think when I go to church, I find an
- 4:17S6: area to serve that has nothing to do with children's ministry.
- 4:20S6: Now I love children. No, no, but I'm being very
- 4:23S6: serious for a moment.
- 4:24S2: It doesn't meet your your personality type or no.
- 4:27S6: I actually love it, but I love doing the teaching.
- 4:31S2: Okay.
- 4:31S6: I love going in. When I was asked as a
- 4:33S6: lead pastor, come on in and I'd have to come
- 4:36S6: in and talk to, like, all sixth graders and there's
- 4:38S6: like 80 of them in there. Come on, pastor. Could
- 4:40S6: you come on in before you get up and preach?
- 4:42S6: And that's when we would do it. Could you come
- 4:44S6: in and encourage him with a little bit of the word?
- 4:46S6: I would love that because I would try. My goal
- 4:49S6: was to get the kids so zoomed up that when
- 4:52S6: I left, they would never want me back again.
- 4:56S2: You were basically like a like a spiritual grandfather.
- 4:59S3: In that moment.
- 5:00S6: That's exactly.
- 5:01S3: Right.
- 5:02S6: Uh, doctor Elizabeth Smith. Um, how about that? That's that's
- 5:06S6: that's kind of a crazy thing for a pastor to say,
- 5:09S6: isn't it, Elizabeth?
- 5:10S8: Well, okay. Uh, crazy. Uh, scary. How many children were
- 5:14S8: terrified after you came in? And then where did they
- 5:18S8: have to, like, do some regulation with the children? I
- 5:21S8: talk them off the ledge or something.
- 5:22S6: I know I had fun with them. I think I
- 5:25S6: learned it from my dad, who was a school principal,
- 5:27S6: and he would take whole assemblies of kids into a gym.
- 5:30S6: I actually love planetary communication to large groups of kids
- 5:35S6: because if you bring energy in enough interesting stuff, they
- 5:40S6: really will eat out of the palm of your hand,
- 5:42S6: won't they? Elizabeth?
- 5:43S8: 100%. And that's what I love, what you just said.
- 5:46S8: It is about being interesting so that we're encouraging the
- 5:49S8: child's curiosity. It isn't just about fun. I am a 100%
- 5:53S8: sure these kids had fun with you. Absolutely. But you
- 5:57S8: did not entertain them. What you did is you showed
- 6:00S8: them a God who is so much more interesting and
- 6:03S8: amazing and fascinating than any entertainment this world could ever offer.
- 6:08S8: And when you bring God into the center and grab
- 6:10S8: their attention for that, you're going to keep their attention
- 6:13S8: and they're going to get excited and feed off of
- 6:15S8: your excitement, which shouldn't we be excited about? God.
- 6:18S6: Amen. Doctor Elizabeth Smith with us right now. Oh my goodness.
- 6:23S6: We're going to get into at least three areas of
- 6:26S6: her expertise in this hour. And we are going to
- 6:29S6: have some fun. So I want to talk with you
- 6:32S6: about children's ministry. What has changed? We got a lot
- 6:36S6: of people listening right now who either have kids, grandkids
- 6:40S6: or minister to kids in the context of the church.
- 6:43S6: What's changed? What do we need to know?
- 6:46S8: I think there's been a huge push toward intergenerational ministry,
- 6:50S8: meaning while you may have age segregated ministry to children
- 6:54S8: in parts of your service or your week or the mornings,
- 6:57S8: you bring generations together more often than not so that
- 7:02S8: children are a part of the community. They're participating within
- 7:06S8: the community. And as Psalm 145 four says, one generation
- 7:10S8: shall commend God's works to another and shall declare his
- 7:14S8: mighty acts. So children are hearing the gospel and biblical
- 7:17S8: truth from many generations, not just in their own little
- 7:21S8: peer group from one person, but they're seeing the body
- 7:23S8: of Christ in action. And having them be a part
- 7:26S8: of that, I think, has made a huge difference in
- 7:29S8: how they're understanding Christ.
- 7:31S6: Is that beginning to gain traction? I remember we talked
- 7:34S6: about this with you a few weeks ago. One of
- 7:37S6: the challenges is the way we've kind of constructed our churches,
- 7:41S6: and the way we've kind of done it in the
- 7:44S6: past is kids are over here. Um, what about this
- 7:47S6: modified idea going back to what I had as a
- 7:50S6: kid growing up where everybody's worshiping together. And then at
- 7:53S6: a certain time, all the kids boogie out of there.
- 7:55S6: Is that even possible in a big church?
- 7:58S8: 100%. Oh, yeah. And a lot of times they call
- 8:00S8: it children's church. So everybody's together and the kids are singing.
- 8:04S8: They see the offering being taken. Hopefully they're in there
- 8:07S8: during baptisms or when testimonies are given. Those kind of
- 8:11S8: moments are meant for the Multi-generations now, when the Word
- 8:14S8: of God is being taught from the pulpit as the
- 8:16S8: teaching pastor is speaking to adults, much of it will
- 8:19S8: go over the heads of the children. So I would
- 8:22S8: recommend and totally support having the children go out to
- 8:25S8: what you consider age segregated groups. Why? So that they
- 8:29S8: are hearing the Word of God at an age appropriate level? Right.
- 8:32S8: So you can even take the same message or the
- 8:35S8: passage that the pastor is teaching in the big church,
- 8:38S8: and then you can teach that. But how a four
- 8:40S8: year old understands that versus an eight year old versus
- 8:42S8: even a 12 year old is a very different on
- 8:44S8: what do they understand? And then how can they apply
- 8:47S8: that to their life? Because we want them to know
- 8:49S8: that the Word of God is understandable. But as much
- 8:52S8: as possible. So you do the teaching, perhaps in those groups,
- 8:56S8: but they come back and they're a part of the
- 8:58S8: body of Christ. So they are viewing it, they're participating,
- 9:01S8: they're feeling the work of the spirit, and they're watching
- 9:04S8: how the Spirit of God is working through the community.
- 9:06S6: Love it. Okay. I'm going to tap into a few
- 9:08S6: lightning round questions here. Number one, I was a big
- 9:12S6: one on. I don't want high schoolers bifurcated out. We
- 9:16S6: we contextualize the gospel enough, keep them in the big
- 9:19S6: auditorium with everyone else. So we had high schoolers in
- 9:21S6: there and they had midweek stuff and all kind of
- 9:23S6: mission trips and everything. And we, you know, as we've
- 9:26S6: moved to a new campus here in Chicago, we're going
- 9:28S6: that way as well. And where is the break off
- 9:32S6: these days? Where is that.
- 9:34S8: Boy? That's going to be different depending upon your congregation
- 9:36S8: and what you have room for. But honestly, I think
- 9:38S8: even at third or fourth grade, you could keep kids
- 9:41S8: within the larger church because they do have the capacity
- 9:45S8: to understand a lot of things Cognitively brain wise by
- 9:49S8: the time they're getting to later elementary. You can keep
- 9:51S8: your later elementary, middle school and high school absolutely within
- 9:54S8: the larger church. What's going to be challenging is that
- 9:57S8: because they are having to sit there and have sustained
- 10:01S8: non distracted attention to listen to the pastor. Then the
- 10:05S8: other adults around them, including their family, is going to
- 10:08S8: have to challenge them to focus. And we don't live
- 10:11S8: in a culture that really celebrates focus.
- 10:13S6: Boy, you weren't kidding.
- 10:15S8: No I know. So you have to have those conversations
- 10:17S8: of when those distracting thoughts come in your head or
- 10:21S8: when you're feeling bored. Because how we receive information is
- 10:26S8: not the same as when you're playing a video game.
- 10:27S8: Your brain isn't doing the same thing. What does it
- 10:30S8: mean to feel bored? So instead of lecturing them on
- 10:32S8: being bored, talk to them about it and say focused
- 10:36S8: attention takes work and discipline. But when we're in the
- 10:39S8: house of God, we want to be focused with that
- 10:41S8: sustained discipline. So we are learning. Let's figure this out
- 10:44S8: together and have those crucial conversations.
- 10:47S6: She's an expert on, on on a lot of things,
- 10:50S6: but a few things in particular. So I want to
- 10:52S6: shift gears coming up here. Elizabeth. You are a certified
- 10:56S6: licensed counselor. And what I want to tackle is what
- 10:59S6: are the big issues that you are seeing today that
- 11:02S6: are different than 20 years ago? More with our expert
- 11:05S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith. Coming up.
- 11:09S1: You've got questions. They've got answers. It's Ask the Experts
- 11:13S1: week with Carl and crew.
- 11:15S6: It is Ask the Experts week. And on this Freedom Friday,
- 11:20S6: no one better than to get in an expert counselor.
- 11:23S6: Someone who's got a biblical worldview. By the way, quick
- 11:26S6: note on that expert, Elizabeth Smith. Good to have you
- 11:29S6: with us. What about biblical counseling versus what is known
- 11:33S6: as kind of a absent of truth therapeutic model? Man,
- 11:37S6: I don't know how people get help without having the
- 11:40S6: Bible referred to. What's your conviction on this, Elizabeth?
- 11:43S8: Every Christian, whether they call themselves a biblical counselor or not,
- 11:46S8: should have a Scripture informed biblical worldview. When you have
- 11:50S8: clients coming to talk to you. So I work in
- 11:52S8: the city of Chicago. I work in a secular place,
- 11:55S8: so I cannot lead with the Bible says, because I've
- 11:58S8: worked with every sort of cultural dynamic you can imagine
- 12:02S8: and belief system. But I am a Christian. If they ask,
- 12:06S8: I will tell them I'm a Christian. And any advice?
- 12:09S8: Or as I'm just listening to them, as I'm filtering
- 12:12S8: through their story, I do it through an intentional biblical worldview.
- 12:16S8: So there are some people coming in with situations where
- 12:19S8: they just need some immediate thinking through to help them
- 12:21S8: get out of a crisis mode, or to think about
- 12:23S8: the next step. So I wouldn't put it in competition
- 12:26S8: between someone that says, I am a Christian, and I'm
- 12:29S8: going to use scripture that we call that biblical counseling.
- 12:32S8: Or if you want to be a Christian counselor, as
- 12:35S8: like in my integrative view, is called Christian psychology, in
- 12:38S8: which as I look at psychology, I do so with
- 12:40S8: a very intentional Christian view. And as a Christian, I'm
- 12:44S8: able to go into other places at a biblical counselor
- 12:47S8: could not go into.
- 12:48S6: How many people ask you if you're a born again Christian? Well,
- 12:51S6: they might not say born again. How many people ask
- 12:53S6: you if you're a Christian? Out of ten people, ten clients?
- 12:56S8: Um, maybe one. So this is this is shocking. Most
- 13:01S8: clients do not come in asking anything about the worldview
- 13:05S8: of the counselor at all. And it never has been
- 13:07S8: for almost 40 years now. Nobody asks. They just come
- 13:10S8: knowing they're so desperate for help or they so need
- 13:12S8: to talk, that they want someone who is compassionate, who
- 13:15S8: is supposedly trained, and then they just want help.
- 13:18S6: That's a staggering number. So speak to everyone right now
- 13:21S6: of what they should be looking for in a counselor,
- 13:24S6: because we've got thousands upon thousands right now that are
- 13:27S6: either meeting with some or or looking for some. And
- 13:31S6: I've run into this numbers of times. What should they
- 13:33S6: be looking for?
- 13:35S8: I would ask, what is the worldview of the counselor
- 13:38S8: you'll be talking to? And if the counselor is like,
- 13:39S8: what do you mean by worldview? What is your faith orientation.
- 13:43S8: How do you use your faith within the counseling context?
- 13:46S8: What is your understanding of Scripture? Because that really is
- 13:49S8: the basis. If they if they're not, well, they're not
- 13:52S8: a Christian, or if they don't use they don't understand
- 13:54S8: Scripture at all. It depends on what you're going to write.
- 13:57S8: If you're going to go and you actually need a
- 14:00S8: med check or you need something, it's kind of like
- 14:02S8: going to the dentist. I don't always need my dentist
- 14:04S8: to be talking to me about the Bible. However, if
- 14:06S8: you're really looking at some cognitive restructuring and some self-regulation,
- 14:10S8: you're going to make sure that there's a biblical worldview
- 14:12S8: coming at you, and especially if you're taking your kids
- 14:14S8: or teenagers in, what are they going to be telling them?
- 14:16S8: Are you going to align yourself with the principles of
- 14:19S8: the world when it comes especially to sexuality or gender?
- 14:22S8: Or are you going to look at Scripture as your
- 14:24S8: guiding light of how God defines sexuality and gender? You're
- 14:27S8: going to want to ask those hard questions up front
- 14:30S8: and keep asking them. Even if you have to go
- 14:32S8: through 2025 counselors so that you get a person that's
- 14:35S8: going to be aligned with God's Word, even if they're
- 14:38S8: in a clinic in which it's not going to be
- 14:40S8: pulled out directly.
- 14:41S6: Yeah, I couldn't agree more, sister. Look, I don't care
- 14:43S6: if my house is on fire. Give me the fireman
- 14:46S6: that drinks and chews and goes with girls that dos
- 14:49S6: and all that stuff. I could care less. But when
- 14:52S6: you got a counselor, they need a Christian worldview. And
- 14:55S6: they got to have a working knowledge of the word. Okay.
- 14:58S6: Elizabeth Smith, more coming up. Here's what I want to tackle.
- 15:01S6: You got a vantage point. You've been counseling a few years.
- 15:04S6: I'm not going to offer up how many because I
- 15:05S6: don't know for sure. But from your vantage point, Elizabeth,
- 15:09S6: what are the issues you're having to hit now versus then?
- 15:13S6: More with Elizabeth Smith straight ahead.
- 15:17S1: When you don't know who's better to ask than an expert.
- 15:21S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 15:24S6: Well, here we are on Freedom Friday, guys. And man,
- 15:27S6: we're going to be getting back to a great guest
- 15:29S6: and expert, doctor, Elizabeth Smith. But I want to tell you,
- 15:32S6: next week is going to be huge. Look, we start
- 15:36S6: on Tuesday. We're listener supported. I'm asking God for a miracle.
- 15:41S6: I'm asking us to move from 67% participation rate, 8%
- 15:45S6: sometimes to 15 to 20. That would be like plate shifting.
- 15:50S6: That would be like, yes, like one of the biggest
- 15:52S6: spiritual earthquakes in North America. But can God do it?
- 15:56S6: He can already have some indications that he's on the move.
- 15:59S6: And I want you to be a part of that.
- 16:01S6: Here's all I ask you to do. Join about 800
- 16:04S6: people who are praying and asking God to work through
- 16:06S6: this effort next week, and I'm asking you to be
- 16:09S6: a part of it. Would you really lean in, be
- 16:13S6: a part of this effort next week, and be in
- 16:16S6: prayer for it along the way with me right now,
- 16:19S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith alright. How long you had your count? Well,
- 16:22S6: I'm not going to ask you that. You've been counseling
- 16:25S6: a long time, right, Elizabeth?
- 16:27S8: Almost 40 years. It's okay. You can say the number.
- 16:30S8: I'm good. I can handle it.
- 16:33S3: We were just.
- 16:34S8: Just a few.
- 16:34S3: Times, all right?
- 16:35S8: My first rodeo.
- 16:36S6: That a girl, I don't. I'm so proud of you. So,
- 16:39S6: 40 years of this counseling. All right. What were the
- 16:42S6: issues 40 years ago? And what are they today?
- 16:45S8: Well, 40 years ago, therapy was often seen as just
- 16:49S8: something that a few people would go to. Um, how
- 16:51S8: we were able to deliver it. It had to be,
- 16:54S8: you know, face to face. Whereas now we have technology.
- 16:57S8: We've actually the clients coming in are far more complex. Um,
- 17:00S8: and we've also had a ton more training when it
- 17:03S8: comes to trauma focused treatment. And probably the biggest challenge
- 17:07S8: that counselors are facing is really understanding diversity and cultural, uh,
- 17:11S8: complexity of multicultural counseling, because people are coming from such different.
- 17:16S8: We really are a melting pot. And so bringing in
- 17:18S8: those different perspectives so that we're doing it well. So
- 17:21S8: it's a bit more complex. We're also seeing a ton
- 17:24S8: more burnout, um, and workforce issues. People are exhausted in
- 17:29S8: their jobs.
- 17:29S3: Yeah.
- 17:30S8: Um, and much more so than even 40 years ago.
- 17:33S6: Oh, this is it's heartache because, um, The needs out
- 17:38S6: there are so immense. Is there something in the church
- 17:42S6: that is broken that can be fixed, that will take
- 17:46S6: the load off of counselors? Because we in our area
- 17:49S6: where we're at both campuses, we've got counseling, uh, clinics,
- 17:54S6: I guess you would call it, they're they're looking for
- 17:57S6: more space constantly right now. What do you say, Elizabeth?
- 18:01S8: Yeah. I think the church needs to see that there's
- 18:04S8: nothing new they need to do. They just really need
- 18:06S8: to promote what they're already doing or who they really are.
- 18:10S8: The church can be a safe place for people to
- 18:15S8: go to, for they need social support. They need the community,
- 18:19S8: the body of Christ. I think if we're not careful,
- 18:22S8: we think that we go to just a person. We
- 18:24S8: have to go to the pastor, we go to the counselor.
- 18:27S8: When really the body of Christ, the spirit works through
- 18:30S8: all of us. And so your small groups, your mentorship,
- 18:34S8: where you're in a, you know, an opportunity to get
- 18:36S8: together with a couple other people, to talk things through
- 18:39S8: the body of Christ as a safe place where people
- 18:42S8: can experience empathy, they can experience empowerment, they can experience
- 18:46S8: problem solving, and they're doing it together within the body
- 18:49S8: of Christ. Do not underestimate the power of a congregation. Amen.
- 18:53S8: And stop putting it down to just 1 or 2 people, which,
- 18:56S8: when you're carrying the load on your shoulders alone, goes
- 18:59S8: back to that issue of burnout and challenges in the workforce.
- 19:03S6: Yeah, I love that because I think we underestimate the
- 19:06S6: power of community in the church. I really do. And
- 19:09S6: I know that we need experts at certain levels. And
- 19:12S6: clearly in counseling there are some issues that come up
- 19:15S6: that way. But I've been blown away as a pastor.
- 19:17S6: How many deep issues can get resolved in loving community?
- 19:21S6: I'm not overstating it, am I, Elizabeth?
- 19:23S8: Not at all. No. Relationships is where the positive relationships
- 19:27S8: we have with one another think about all the one
- 19:29S8: another verses that God gives us. Encourage one another. Bear
- 19:32S8: with one another, love one another. Forgive one another. The
- 19:35S8: one anothers is what we do within our relationships. And yes,
- 19:38S8: you're right, you need to go see a doctor. You
- 19:40S8: need to go see a professional counselor. If there's something
- 19:42S8: that needs to be diagnosed and there is medical treatment
- 19:44S8: out there, and I'm a big fan of that. But
- 19:46S8: within healing relationships, shame is dealt with, guilt is dealt with.
- 19:51S8: Forgiveness is given. Repentance can happen. Confess to one another,
- 19:56S8: give grace to one another. All of those one anothers
- 19:59S8: and the things we do within everyday relationships is really
- 20:03S8: your power that God can use to bring about healing
- 20:07S8: and well-being in someone, so encouraging those. It's a community.
- 20:10S8: It's not a place you go listen to a sermon
- 20:12S8: and come home. It is about being a part of
- 20:15S8: a community that knows you, where you are known and
- 20:17S8: you know others, and you live within those relationships and
- 20:20S8: those people who do have much better mental health than
- 20:23S8: those who are trying to do this life alone.
- 20:26S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is our guest. Guys, we got some
- 20:29S6: good stuff, so I promise we were going to hit her.
- 20:32S6: Three biggest areas of expertise. We hit children and family
- 20:36S6: just to touch on it. Barely. We hit a little
- 20:39S6: bit of this counseling and now we're going to slip
- 20:42S6: into where she is now. Program head for Moody Online
- 20:46S6: and how this may help equip you questions for her
- 20:51S6: coming up.
- 20:53S1: Get in the know with life's biggest questions. It's Ask
- 20:56S1: the Experts week with Carl and crew.
- 20:59S6: It's Freedom Friday and it is. Ask the experts with
- 21:03S6: me today, Doctor Elizabeth Smith. She's the program head for
- 21:07S6: Moody Online. I've been holding on to that because this
- 21:10S6: is the one part of her expertise where she's really going.
- 21:13S6: And boy, if you've heard her fired up already this hour,
- 21:17S6: you ain't seen nothing yet. Elizabeth, this has got you
- 21:20S6: on steroids here, doesn't it, for energy?
- 21:22S8: Absolutely. I am all about Moody online and how we
- 21:26S8: are able to train people right where they're at in
- 21:28S8: the Word of God, in whatever calling they have, uh,
- 21:31S8: through online education and moody. I'm just going to say
- 21:34S8: we're the best of the best.
- 21:35S6: Yeah, and it's really cool. This was a big aha
- 21:38S6: moment for myself and Ali when you were in here last. Uh,
- 21:42S6: Ali's getting a little R&R today. She'll be back here Monday,
- 21:45S6: but my goodness I you've got to lay it out
- 21:49S6: for all those parents and grandparents and even some students.
- 21:52S6: We have kids listening here. You guys are offering something.
- 21:56S6: It's high schoolers, right?
- 21:58S8: Absolutely. More and more high schoolers are taking college classes
- 22:02S8: while they're in high school for two reasons. One, either
- 22:04S8: to finish their high school degree or to get a
- 22:06S8: leg up starting their, uh, their college career. And Moody
- 22:10S8: Online is now starting Moody Online Academy for sophomores, juniors
- 22:14S8: and seniors who meet the qualifications. You have to have
- 22:16S8: a certain GPA and a character reference, but we are
- 22:18S8: offering classes so that they can start those college classes
- 22:22S8: and really help them establish a biblical worldview before they
- 22:25S8: jump in to the full college experience.
- 22:28S6: That's the big deal, because there's a lot of parents
- 22:31S6: that there's a little bit of tentativeness like, okay, they're
- 22:34S6: under my covering here. But when they get out and
- 22:37S6: we've we've heard all the stories. And frankly, as a
- 22:40S6: pastor and as a parent, I've seen the stories of
- 22:42S6: going into universities with worldviews that are far from the
- 22:46S6: Scripture and frankly, that can have negative impact. But they
- 22:50S6: get these gen ed studies. I'm talking philosophy, even business
- 22:54S6: classes from Moody Online. And you've got that biblical worldview.
- 23:00S6: That's beautiful, isn't it, Elizabeth?
- 23:02S8: 100%. One of the things I hear parents talking about
- 23:06S8: with their high schoolers and thinking about going to college is,
- 23:08S8: what will my child do? And I want to kindly say,
- 23:12S8: I don't really care. I don't really care in comparison
- 23:15S8: to who your child is, who they are, what they believe,
- 23:20S8: because what they believe and who they are, the strength
- 23:23S8: of their faith is really what determines their future. So
- 23:27S8: as they train in what they're going to do. Make
- 23:30S8: sure that you protect with everything you have, what they believe,
- 23:35S8: and who they are becoming because they are so vulnerable
- 23:39S8: when it comes between that high school and that college,
- 23:42S8: that bridge toward adulthood. They're so vulnerable. Don't look at
- 23:46S8: them and go, just because they have big bodies, they're
- 23:48S8: still young. Protect them. It's our job. And so trust
- 23:53S8: them to Moody Online, where we will care for their
- 23:55S8: soul as much as we will teach them anything in
- 23:58S8: the course.
- 23:59S6: I love that. Uh, what are some of the other
- 24:02S6: things that you have going in Moody Online that people
- 24:04S6: need to know about? Because I'm going to put a
- 24:06S6: banner ad up here in just a moment.
- 24:08S8: We have a 90 credit three year intro to business
- 24:12S8: course called Business Administration. So you can get your B.S.
- 24:14S8: in Business Administration in just 90 credits three years. And
- 24:19S8: we also have a master's in Human services, which is
- 24:22S8: for those who want to go into counseling and mental health.
- 24:25S8: It's a great two year program where you can get
- 24:27S8: your master's degree and go out and make that difference
- 24:29S8: in the world.
- 24:30S6: Hold it so you can go moody online to get
- 24:33S6: a business degree and to post college, all that basic stuff.
- 24:37S6: You can get your master's to get yourself certified for counseling.
- 24:40S6: Is that true?
- 24:41S8: Yeah, yeah. A master's in human services will lead to
- 24:44S8: more community, more social work. A master's in counseling psychology
- 24:49S8: will move you toward licensure. And we have both online.
- 24:52S3: Yeah.
- 24:52S6: Wow. This is beautiful. All right, guys, I want you
- 24:55S6: to know that we have got we're not done with
- 24:57S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith. But I want you to know that
- 25:00S6: we have got something sweet for you here. If you
- 25:04S6: text the word moody, you're going to be put onto
- 25:06S6: a website that has everything that she just spoke of
- 25:10S6: and more. In fact, Moody Academy is the that's the
- 25:15S6: icon for those sophomores, juniors, seniors. So you want to
- 25:18S6: check that out. So text Moody to 800 555 7898.
- 25:25S6: Text Moody to 800 555 7898. Well, we're on Freedom
- 25:33S6: Friday here and ask the experts. And coming up, I'm
- 25:36S6: going to have a little bit more time with Elizabeth
- 25:39S6: to explore this one very important question. What do you
- 25:43S6: do as a steward of God's kingdom stuff? When you
- 25:47S6: pull away from Moody Radio and you walk away going, wow,
- 25:51S6: that helped me. Details straight ahead.
- 25:55S1: You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 25:59S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is my guest today on Ask the Expert.
- 26:03S6: She is program head for Moody Online as as well
- 26:07S6: as program head of children and family ministry for Moody
- 26:10S6: Bible Institute. She's a professor. She's the counselor. She's a
- 26:16S6: deep lover of God, and she's got her priorities aligned.
- 26:21S6: She's been transformed by the power of God, sealed in
- 26:24S6: the Holy Spirit and is committed with her hubby to
- 26:28S6: growing up strong in Jesus Christ. You know Elizabeth, I
- 26:33S6: really am facing next week with a little bit of woe.
- 26:38S6: We got a big one in front of us here.
- 26:40S6: We're listener supported, you know that, and we're looking at
- 26:42S6: $4 million. But I just want you to share your
- 26:46S6: heart with people about why Moody Radio, why invest in this.
- 26:52S8: Moody radio goes beyond any kind of walls that we
- 26:56S8: may put up that the or, as well as it's
- 27:00S8: able to help us fight right where we're at against
- 27:02S8: all the challenges that the world brings to us. And
- 27:04S8: we need to break down walls and fight the enemy,
- 27:07S8: and we need that in our life every moment. And
- 27:09S8: Moody Radio can be there with you every step of
- 27:12S8: your journey, day or night. You can turn it on
- 27:14S8: and it's faithful. You don't have to sit there and
- 27:17S8: worry about, oh, what's going to be coming on the
- 27:19S8: screen next? Or coming through my radio next, or what's
- 27:21S8: going on. It is a it is a voice you
- 27:24S8: can trust no matter what time of day. If you're
- 27:26S8: in the middle of the night and you are depressed
- 27:28S8: or you're worried or you need prayer, turn on Moody
- 27:30S8: Radio first thing in the morning. Carl and crew hit
- 27:34S8: it strong. Get your mind in the right frame of mind.
- 27:37S8: And let them come along to help you flourish in
- 27:40S8: this life that God has given you. We are meant
- 27:42S8: to flourish, and we are able to do that so
- 27:46S8: much more effectively with the help of Moody Radio.
- 27:48S6: Ah. That's beautiful. You know, it's interesting. Um, you know,
- 27:53S6: I will say this one caveat to what you said.
- 27:56S6: You're going to get truth, you're going to get encouragement,
- 27:58S6: but you might get a little bit of crazy here
- 28:00S6: because we.
- 28:01S3: We.
- 28:01S6: We value authenticity here in a big way. And I've
- 28:05S6: been so blown away. It hasn't been even a year
- 28:09S6: yet since we, our audience has expanded massively, and we're
- 28:13S6: so grateful for the grace of people that have said, hey,
- 28:17S6: we know you're new to us, but we're going to listen.
- 28:20S6: And so many have embraced what God's doing here and
- 28:23S6: we're so thankful for them. But, boy, ministry in life,
- 28:26S6: it's so much bigger than us. To the person who
- 28:29S6: kind of has stuck in that Dead Sea mode where
- 28:33S6: they're receiving a lot, but they're not giving anything. Tell
- 28:36S6: them the principle there is you got to kick something
- 28:38S6: out at the end so that you can start living again.
- 28:41S6: How does that work practically, Elizabeth?
- 28:44S8: I'm going to give a plug to give to Moody
- 28:46S8: Radio if you are receiving something. Um, and the apostle
- 28:50S8: Paul talks about not muzzling the ox, and I think
- 28:54S8: he uses that term meaning for those that are faithfully
- 28:58S8: serving and preaching the Word of God and who teaching,
- 29:00S8: make sure that we are feeding them. Make sure that
- 29:02S8: we are giving everything they they need in order to
- 29:05S8: continue to do the work God has called them to do.
- 29:09S8: And so, Carl, you do an amazing work. And by
- 29:11S8: the way, thank you. Thank you for not being a
- 29:13S8: cookie cutter radio host. I don't need a cookie cutter
- 29:16S8: radio host. I need somebody that can come in in
- 29:18S8: the morning and talk truth and be who they are,
- 29:21S8: because it gives me power. It gives me the ability
- 29:23S8: to be who I am. And I'm a little zany
- 29:25S8: and crazy, and some people say a bit too much, okay,
- 29:28S8: but that's who God made me to be. I want
- 29:30S8: every listener to be who God made them to be
- 29:32S8: and to flourish. And we need to support you and
- 29:34S8: everybody else at Moody Radio to keep doing that. So
- 29:37S8: if you have received something from God, you will be
- 29:40S8: blessed 100 fold by not muzzling the ox. Let Carl
- 29:45S8: let Moody Radio do what God has called them to
- 29:47S8: do by supporting them with your time, with your words
- 29:50S8: of encouragement, email in text, in telling them how much
- 29:52S8: you love them and praying for them. And three give
- 29:55S8: of your resources. God didn't give you the resources to hoard,
- 29:58S8: but to give out generously. You will never outgive God,
- 30:02S8: and then you get to be a part of the
- 30:03S8: work that God is doing.
- 30:05S6: I love it, you know. Super die. I think. I
- 30:07S6: want you to chime in here, sister. It's been awesome
- 30:10S6: having Doctor Elizabeth Smith, but, um, she mentioned something that's important,
- 30:14S6: and we aren't going to do any asking, but we've
- 30:16S6: got a key word that we can text for sure,
- 30:19S6: can't we?
- 30:19S7: We absolutely do. That keyword is moody. It is. Moody.
- 30:23S7: Gets you to all the connections. As far as Moody online,
- 30:26S7: the courses, that high school course that she even talked
- 30:29S7: to you about how they can get credit, text the
- 30:31S7: word moody to 855 five 7898. That word is simply
- 30:37S7: moody to 855 five 7898.
- 30:42S6: All week long, ask the experts. And it's been a
- 30:45S6: joy to have Elizabeth in with us today. I want
- 30:49S6: you to know that if you've heard anything and you
- 30:52S6: just want a shot at it again, we've taken each
- 30:55S6: of our guests and broken them into episodes. So all
- 30:58S6: you have to do is text the word show and
- 31:01S6: it's not per day. All the guests together, it's an
- 31:05S6: episode per guest. So just check it out. Text the
- 31:08S6: word show to 805, 55, 78, 98. Get that link.
- 31:13S6: Get subscribed. Text show to 800 555 7898.