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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
- 0:04Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Less than two weeks to go to the midterms. We'll
- 0:10Speaker 2: be talking a lot about politics. One of the things
- 0:14Speaker 2: that is going on right now is the president's approval
- 0:17Speaker 2: rate is plummeting by the day. And so I'll be
- 0:21Speaker 2: discussing politics in general. what's going on with Republicans running
- 0:29Speaker 2: for the Senate and the House. Those, of course, are
- 0:32Speaker 2: the biggest races. And that's coming up. Also, my voter
- 0:35Speaker 2: guide coming up next week. And I'll explain to you
- 0:38Speaker 2: what I am voting for, why I am voting, and
- 0:41Speaker 2: you cannot follow it. I shouldn't call it a voter
- 0:43Speaker 2: guide because it's not a guide. It's simply, hey, guys,
- 0:48Speaker 2: this is the way I'm voting. OK, now we're obviously
- 0:53Speaker 2: we're in some weird economic times. And what normally is
- 0:59Speaker 2: part of our life is sort of changing. I mean,
- 1:01Speaker 2: everything's upside down. For example, going to college was an automatic, right?
- 1:06Speaker 2: You go to college, you get a good job. And
- 1:08Speaker 2: that was sort of a given. You stay in one
- 1:10Speaker 2: job for a good part of your career. You get
- 1:12Speaker 2: a pension. I mean, all of that, all that's out
- 1:14Speaker 2: the window, as you know. College educations are ridiculously expensive,
- 1:17Speaker 2: prohibitively expensive. Good jobs are not guaranteed. So people are
- 1:22Speaker 2: going into the trades. That's one thing. And then people
- 1:25Speaker 2: want to go into business because, wow, OK, I want
- 1:28Speaker 2: to be my own business person. Everybody has that dream. Well,
- 1:32Speaker 2: here is where we go to the Internet. Now, as
- 1:35Speaker 2: we know, Internet has many, many scams. That Rich DeMuro,
- 1:41Speaker 2: for example, talks about half the time when we talk
- 1:46Speaker 2: about scams on the Tuesday segment. So somewhere between scams
- 1:52Speaker 2: and legitimate businesses, there is an overlap there. And I
- 2:00Speaker 2: want to do a story with you. And this was
- 2:02Speaker 2: a Wall Street Journal story about you can own your
- 2:05Speaker 2: own business. And this story was about a laundromat or laundromats. Now,
- 2:11Speaker 2: let's say you want to be your own business person.
- 2:13Speaker 2: And so you're going to buy a franchise, a 7-Eleven franchise,
- 2:18Speaker 2: or you're going to buy a McDonald's franchise or a
- 2:21Speaker 2: Subway franchise. McDonald's being ridiculously expensive and you can do it.
- 2:25Speaker 2: I mean, you can borrow the money and go out
- 2:27Speaker 2: and people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to start
- 2:29Speaker 2: a business and they get it. However, everybody knows how
- 2:31Speaker 2: much work that is. I mean, no one thinks that
- 2:34Speaker 2: that's passive income. Nobody does. To own a fast food
- 2:39Speaker 2: outlet is an incredible amount of work. I mean, they're
- 2:43Speaker 2: open seven days a week. People, you've got staff. I mean,
- 2:48Speaker 2: management is crazy. So what is the best way to
- 2:52Speaker 2: have passive income? Where you just sit back and you
- 2:56Speaker 2: collect the money. Well, enter the laundromat. And what the
- 3:00Speaker 2: internet has done to not so much the business, because
- 3:04Speaker 2: that's remained flat. They're still the same, give or take
- 3:08Speaker 2: 30,000 laundromats across the United States. It's one of the
- 3:12Speaker 2: few industries which is still mom and pop owned. There
- 3:15Speaker 2: aren't huge chains that own laundromats. They're individual families, people
- 3:21Speaker 2: that own them. And The perception is, why don't you
- 3:26Speaker 2: sit back and collect these quarters and these dollar bills?
- 3:31Speaker 2: Because that's about as passive as you can get. Okay,
- 3:33Speaker 2: when did all this start? When this thinking really started? Well,
- 3:37Speaker 2: about five years ago, there's a guy by the name
- 3:39Speaker 2: of Carlos Ochoa. He's known for his two million TikTok
- 3:44Speaker 2: followers as laundromat money. How you too can make money
- 3:49Speaker 2: from your laundromat. Now, he doesn't sell them. He doesn't
- 3:52Speaker 2: profit by this other than what he gets for two
- 3:55Speaker 2: million followers. But what he did, he started his videos
- 4:01Speaker 2: and he pulled money out of the machines and he
- 4:04Speaker 2: counted his money, even the point where he had built
- 4:06Speaker 2: one of those bill changer things, those machines that count money.
- 4:10Speaker 2: And boy, that went crazy. Everybody went, whoa, what a
- 4:14Speaker 2: great deal, laundromats. And that exploded the concept of why
- 4:20Speaker 2: don't we earn some passive money? Well, there ain't no
- 4:23Speaker 2: free lunches in this world, right? The only way you
- 4:26Speaker 2: get passive money is to invest and get dividends. And
- 4:29Speaker 2: the only way you can get dividends is to work
- 4:31Speaker 2: your ass off and to obtain dividends.
- 4:35Speaker 3: So you're working like crazy. Oh, but a laundromat.
- 4:39Speaker 2: I just found this fascinating. And here is the reality
- 4:43Speaker 2: with the Wall Street Journal. And just and this is
- 4:46Speaker 2: only because the Internet kicked this off. Otherwise, no one
- 4:50Speaker 2: will be thinking about it. Laundromats are hideous amounts of
- 4:54Speaker 2: work and no one thinks that. It's one of those
- 4:56Speaker 2: things that you're going to see. And the lesson here
- 4:59Speaker 2: is as the economy goes south and as the economy
- 5:02Speaker 2: goes sideways, you're going to see more stuff on the
- 5:06Speaker 2: Internet and not necessarily scammers. I'm not talking about scammers
- 5:08Speaker 2: because that's a whole different the fraudsters are a whole
- 5:10Speaker 2: different topic. but just a neat way for you to
- 5:13Speaker 2: make money. And if it's too good to be true,
- 5:16Speaker 2: it's too good to be true. It ain't true.
- 5:19Speaker 3: So we're going to see this.
- 5:20Speaker 2: I'll talk to Rich about this, certainly over the next
- 5:22Speaker 2: several months as to, because the economy is doing what
- 5:26Speaker 2: it's doing, how is the internet affecting us, which is
- 5:30Speaker 2: across the board. And I think we're going to start
- 5:35Speaker 2: with this business, the laundromat business, right? where you think
- 5:39Speaker 2: it's going to be passive income. You think it's just
- 5:41Speaker 2: collecting quarters. Well, I ain't quarters anymore. I've been in
- 5:44Speaker 2: a laundromat in a whole bunch of years. So what
- 5:46Speaker 2: is it, a buck now to do, or $ 2 to
- 5:49Speaker 2: do a load at a laundromat?
- 5:51Speaker 3: I don't even know. Yeah, I have no idea. So
- 5:54Speaker 3: much I don't know.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Is that me being an elitist that I don't go
- 5:56Speaker 2: to a laundromat? Neil, you go to laundromats every day.
- 5:59Speaker 2: So am I being an elitist or?
- 6:02Speaker 4: I wish.
- 6:03Speaker 3: I love laundromats. That's where all the colorful people are. Oh, yeah,
- 6:06Speaker 3: the crazy people. But I haven't gone to.
- 6:08Speaker 4: A laundromat in a bazillion years, sir.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's now bills. I don't think it's quarters anymore.
- 6:15Speaker 2: All right, we're done with that. It's just the start
- 6:18Speaker 2: of a... I think the start of a whole series
- 6:21Speaker 2: of subjects, internet businesses that you too, it's, you remember
- 6:25Speaker 2: matchbooks where you, we go back years ago because there's
- 6:29Speaker 2: very few matchbooks left, but you could pick up skills.
- 6:33Speaker 2: You too, you too can learn to drive the big rigs,
- 6:37Speaker 2: for example.
- 6:38Speaker 3: I love those.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And my favorite one is you too can learn to
- 6:41Speaker 2: fly the big rigs and you can take lessons. For example,
- 6:45Speaker 2: you get in your car and you go up a
- 6:47Speaker 2: hill and you pull back on your steering wheel. Now
- 6:49Speaker 2: it doesn't move, but you pretend you're, nevermind. That's a visual. Okay,
- 6:53Speaker 2: we're done with that. Hey, California state workers, you know
- 6:57Speaker 2: what's going to happen? Come, I think tomorrow, they're going
- 7:01Speaker 2: to go on strike. They're looking at going on strike.
- 7:05Speaker 2: And how does that affect us? Well, these are California
- 7:08Speaker 2: workers and almost virtually, well, virtually every agency out there
- 7:13Speaker 2: is going to be affected.
- 7:14Speaker 3: And we are, too. I'll be right back. This is KFI.
- 7:18Speaker 5: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
- 7:24Speaker 2: All next week, it's going to be one segment per
- 7:28Speaker 2: day of, as Amy suggested, handle on the ballot, where
- 7:33Speaker 2: I'm going to go through and take a fairly deep
- 7:35Speaker 2: dive into each of the ballot measures. And the reason
- 7:39Speaker 2: I'm doing that is, number one, that's my voter guide,
- 7:41Speaker 2: which you cannot listen to or pay attention to. But
- 7:44Speaker 2: try to analyze a little bit about what the propositions
- 7:46Speaker 2: are about, because here's the problem. is you can't pay
- 7:49Speaker 2: attention to the commercials because they basically lie.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Each side lies through its teeth.
- 7:56Speaker 2: You can't really pay attention to the title of the
- 8:02Speaker 2: various propositions. You can't really pay attention much about those
- 8:07Speaker 2: that are advocating one way or the other because they're
- 8:10Speaker 2: skewing the whole thing. It is really hard to get
- 8:14Speaker 2: the truth because the entire system is skewed towards, well, Uh, obfuscation, uh, outright, uh,
- 8:22Speaker 2: lying to you to get, make a point, you know,
- 8:24Speaker 2: for example, uh, is, uh, they're, uh, one of the propositions, uh, and, uh,
- 8:30Speaker 2: I'll talk more about that next week. Uh, but you
- 8:32Speaker 2: see the ads, uh, and we've seen this before. I
- 8:35Speaker 2: think prop 10 did this. where the advertising is you
- 8:40Speaker 2: will not pay one more cent for taxes if you
- 8:44Speaker 2: pass this measure. It will not cost you any more
- 8:47Speaker 2: money than it is now. You don't pay anything more. Well,
- 8:50Speaker 2: it doesn't tell you that this was a tax that
- 8:52Speaker 2: was a temporary tax that is about to sunset. It's
- 8:56Speaker 2: an emergency tax measure that was to take care of
- 8:59Speaker 2: a specific problem That was only going to go for
- 9:03Speaker 2: three years, for example. And then the ads come and
- 9:07Speaker 2: you go vote for this proposition. You're not going to
- 9:09Speaker 2: pay any more tax than you do now. It's not
- 9:11Speaker 2: going to add one more dime to your tax bill.
- 9:13Speaker 2: It changes it from a temporary tax to a permanent tax.
- 9:17Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing that happens. So one of the,
- 9:20Speaker 2: one of the stories I'm going to tell you and
- 9:22Speaker 2: what we're going to dive into it is whenever you
- 9:24Speaker 2: see the word temporary emergency tax, Don't for a second
- 9:29Speaker 2: believe it, because there's no such thing as a temporary
- 9:32Speaker 2: tax that exists.
- 9:33Speaker 3: They all, even though there's.
- 9:35Speaker 2: A sunset clause to them, believe me, you're going to
- 9:38Speaker 2: see whatever interest group is involved is saying no. that, oh,
- 9:45Speaker 2: it's not going to cost you any more money. And
- 9:48Speaker 2: that's just typical. And by the way, that's the best
- 9:51Speaker 2: of it. And then the worst of it is outright lies,
- 9:55Speaker 2: which don't stop. And when you look at the ads
- 9:58Speaker 2: that are going on, for example, there is a, God,
- 10:04Speaker 2: I don't get the name, but there's one of the
- 10:07Speaker 2: Senate races along the East Coast. And it's a woman
- 10:13Speaker 2: who is running, her name is Alcott, and I'll dive
- 10:16Speaker 2: into it a little bit more in the news.
- 10:18Speaker 3: And somehow the opposition, oh.
- 10:20Speaker 2: There's El-Sayed who's running against her. Or no, Ramazwavi is
- 10:25Speaker 2: running against her.
- 10:25Speaker 3: That's the Ohio governor's race.
- 10:27Speaker 2: There it is, Ohio governor. Thank you for pointing that out.
- 10:30Speaker 2: I was paying more attention to the ad than I
- 10:32Speaker 2: was to the race that was going on. And there
- 10:36Speaker 2: was an ad that Ramazwavi Vivek produced, he admitted producing,
- 10:41Speaker 2: where they got hold of this woman's body. mother who
- 10:45Speaker 2: goes on TV, looks at the camera and says, don't
- 10:48Speaker 2: vote for my daughter. She is a liar. It is
- 10:52Speaker 2: not someone you can trust. And the reality is, is
- 10:56Speaker 2: that the candidate hasn't talked to her in 50 years.
- 11:01Speaker 2: The mom, her husband, the stepdad was accused and convicted
- 11:07Speaker 2: of raping Alcott, went to prison for it.
- 11:10Speaker 3: All that is left out.
- 11:12Speaker 2: And yet at the same time, don't vote for my
- 11:15Speaker 2: daughter because she is a liar and you do not
- 11:18Speaker 2: want her to be the governor.
- 11:19Speaker 3: And that's what's going on these days. Typical.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of backlash on that one. And
- 11:25Speaker 2: I'm going to get a little bit more into who
- 11:27Speaker 2: is running. I always get confused as to who's running
- 11:29Speaker 2: for governor, who's running for the Senate across the country.
- 11:31Speaker 2: A little bit better off in California because I pay
- 11:33Speaker 2: a lot more attention to that. Also, the governor's races,
- 11:38Speaker 2: I don't know how important they really are relative to
- 11:42Speaker 2: The races for the Senate and for the House that
- 11:46Speaker 2: affects us.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Oh, boy, does that affect us individually? The governor's race,
- 11:52Speaker 3: you know, governor in Pennsylvania. All right.
- 11:54Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's politically interesting to us, but
- 11:57Speaker 2: not affecting us so deeply. Because if the House does flip,
- 12:02Speaker 2: if the Senate flips, and now you have President Trump,
- 12:05Speaker 2: a Republican, and he's dealing with a Democratic House and
- 12:10Speaker 2: a Democratic.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Senate, it's a very different government. It really is.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Right now, you have the Senate and the House doing
- 12:16Speaker 2: anything the president wants.
- 12:18Speaker 3: Anything.
- 12:19Speaker 2: They rubber stamp whatever the president wants. And that's going
- 12:22Speaker 2: to be a very, very different animal when the House flips.
- 12:26Speaker 3: It'll be Hakeem.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Jeffries who becomes the Speaker of And it's not going
- 12:31Speaker 2: to be Mike Johnson who takes a phone call every
- 12:33Speaker 2: day from the president who says, this is what I
- 12:35Speaker 2: want you to do today, Mike.
- 12:37Speaker 4: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
- 12:38Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:39Speaker 2: And then the president, whenever he brings Mike out in public,
- 12:43Speaker 2: turns to him and goes, heel, heel. And immediately Mike
- 12:46Speaker 2: Johnson sits on his haunches, looks up at the president
- 12:49Speaker 2: and pants. It's a nice visual. And unfortunately, it's probably
- 12:53Speaker 2: more true than not. OK, coming up, medical news with Dr.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Jim Keeney.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Chief Medical Officer for Dignity St. Mary Medical Center in
- 13:01Speaker 2: Long Beach and an ER doc of 30 years experience.
- 13:05Speaker 2: And we've got a couple of stories I want to
- 13:08Speaker 2: share with you and some questions that I always have.
- 13:10Speaker 2: This is KFI AM 640.
- 13:13Speaker 5: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
- 13:21Speaker 3: Dr. Keeney, Paging Dr.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Keeney.
- 13:23Speaker 3: It's time for Medical News with Dr.
- 13:25Speaker 4: Jim Keeney.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Where the hell is this guy?
- 13:29Speaker 2: On the Bill Handel Show.
- 13:34Speaker 3: KFI AM 640.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Bill Handel on a Wednesday morning, October 21. It is, oh,
- 13:42Speaker 2: is it going to be a week next week? Just
- 13:43Speaker 2: prior to the midterms. And every day next week, I'm
- 13:47Speaker 2: going to be taking one of the propositions, diving into
- 13:50Speaker 2: it a little bit deeper and talking about some of
- 13:53Speaker 2: the local races, statewide races. And some it really doesn't
- 13:57Speaker 2: matter because it's sort of a given California being so
- 13:59Speaker 2: left wing, being so blue. But certainly the races across
- 14:05Speaker 2: the country for the Senate and the House, we have
- 14:07Speaker 2: to pay attention to.
- 14:08Speaker 3: But here in California. It's all about the props.
- 14:11Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, advertising is about the props
- 14:15Speaker 2: because national candidates don't advertise in California. First of all,
- 14:19Speaker 2: it's way too expensive. Second of all, it's a given
- 14:22Speaker 2: which way it's going to go. So we're not a
- 14:23Speaker 2: swing state in any way. Okay, it is time for
- 14:27Speaker 2: medical news with Dr. Jim Keeney, Chief Medical Officer for
- 14:29Speaker 2: Dignity St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. Jim, watching
- 14:35Speaker 2: football and one of the big stories over the weekend
- 14:37Speaker 2: was that Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback, guaranteed Hall of Famer,
- 14:43Speaker 2: MVP of the Super Bowl, developed thrombosis.
- 14:48Speaker 3: And it was superficial thrombosis.
- 14:50Speaker 2: And then it morphed into a diagnosis of deep vein thrombosis.
- 15:00Speaker 2: So explain what all that's about and how dangerous it
- 15:02Speaker 2: is and what he's looking at.
- 15:04Speaker 4: Sure.
- 15:04Speaker 6: So it turns out that what happened was he was cleated.
- 15:09Speaker 6: You know, when you get hit in the calf by
- 15:11Speaker 6: another player's cleat, cause.
- 15:12Speaker 4: An injury there.
- 15:13Speaker 6: So he thought, you know, it's just an injury he's
- 15:15Speaker 6: recovering from. I think he took a couple of days
- 15:17Speaker 6: even to report it. But when they ultrasounded it, they
- 15:19Speaker 6: saw what we call superficial thrombosis. That's typically not very serious.
- 15:24Speaker 4: That's the kind of thing. You know, when you get
- 15:25Speaker 4: your blood drawn or you get.
- 15:27Speaker 6: An IV started and sometimes you feel like the vein
- 15:30Speaker 6: afterwards feels a little like a cord, like it's a
- 15:33Speaker 6: little harder than normal, that's superficial thrombosis. Usually doesn't move, right?
- 15:38Speaker 6: Usually is not as safe. But if it extends and
- 15:41Speaker 6: it propagates up the vein into the large deep veins, well,
- 15:45Speaker 6: now those can break off and travel. And that's when
- 15:48Speaker 6: you get things like pulmonary embolism or a blood clot
- 15:51Speaker 6: that blocks blood the arteries now in the lung because
- 15:54Speaker 6: it'll go through the heart and then pump out the
- 15:57Speaker 6: heart into the lung. And now we're talking about the
- 16:00Speaker 6: high pressure arterial blood flow, pushing it into the lung tissue.
- 16:04Speaker 6: And it can really shut down your lungs and be
- 16:06Speaker 6: extremely life-threatening. It's a very common cause of death in
- 16:10Speaker 6: otherwise healthy people.
- 16:11Speaker 4: So you don't think, right?
- 16:12Speaker 6: You don't think a super level athlete and blood clots
- 16:16Speaker 6: go together, but they can't.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of this actually happening to an
- 16:22Speaker 2: athlete like this. And the fact that he is in
- 16:25Speaker 2: extraordinary shape, obviously one of the athletes, world-class athletes, that
- 16:31Speaker 2: doesn't really affect it one way or the other, does it?
- 16:34Speaker 6: Yeah, being an athlete, probably the activity, the fact that
- 16:38Speaker 6: you're more active than normal, you're going to eliminate some
- 16:41Speaker 6: of the risk factors for blood. So here's the risk factors.
- 16:44Speaker 6: We call it Virchow's triad. You have an injury to
- 16:47Speaker 6: the blood vessel itself of some kind. Then you have
- 16:50Speaker 6: an abnormal blood flow because you're not getting up and
- 16:53Speaker 6: moving around for something. Maybe for people who injure their leg,
- 16:56Speaker 6: now they're laying in bed or something like that. And
- 16:59Speaker 6: then the third thing is hypercoagulability. That means that you're
- 17:03Speaker 6: now predisposed to making blood clots. Conditions like cancer or
- 17:08Speaker 6: having certain protein deficiencies, genetic protein deficiencies.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Lead you to that.
- 17:13Speaker 6: We don't think that's the case for him. But if
- 17:15Speaker 6: you look at out of the three, he has two
- 17:17Speaker 6: because he had the injury. They diagnosed the superficial clot
- 17:21Speaker 6: and then he took a transatlantic flight. And that's going
- 17:24Speaker 6: to be where your blood flow is abnormal. You're just
- 17:26Speaker 6: sitting in a chair for an extended period of time.
- 17:28Speaker 6: and not necessarily moving that blood, so it puts you
- 17:30Speaker 6: at risk for propagating it.
- 17:32Speaker 3: So why is he out for the whole season?
- 17:35Speaker 4: Well, because it's a contact sport.
- 17:37Speaker 6: And so the treatment for this is a blood thinner, right?
- 17:39Speaker 6: And just like, you know, you're not allowed to do
- 17:41Speaker 6: certain things because of being on blood thinners after the
- 17:45Speaker 6: heart valve, that he is not allowed to take hits
- 17:48Speaker 6: to the head or any trauma that's likely to cause bleeding. So,
- 17:52Speaker 6: you know, professional football is definitely out of the question
- 17:56Speaker 6: when you're on blood thinners. I would imagine he'll be
- 17:58Speaker 6: on them for at least six months, right? And then
- 18:00Speaker 6: what they'll do is they'll look for other predisposing factors
- 18:03Speaker 6: like some of the ones I mentioned. And there's tests
- 18:07Speaker 6: for the genetic predisposition.
- 18:09Speaker 4: He'll get all of those.
- 18:10Speaker 6: And if he isn't predisposed and we think it's just
- 18:13Speaker 6: this cleating injury of his calf that causes it, followed
- 18:16Speaker 6: by an airline flight. Well, then after six months, they
- 18:20Speaker 6: will consider taking him off the blood thinner and then
- 18:23Speaker 6: he could go back to playing.
- 18:24Speaker 2: OK, so assuming that doesn't happen, because I know doctors
- 18:27Speaker 2: are pretty conservative now in the world of especially NFL football.
- 18:33Speaker 2: And if he has to stay on blood thinners simply
- 18:37Speaker 2: because he's predisposition or whatever, is he done?
- 18:40Speaker 4: You know, you can't play contact sports on blood thinners, period.
- 18:43Speaker 4: I mean, that's just not.
- 18:44Speaker 6: Optional because you'll hit your head, you'll bleed into your
- 18:46Speaker 6: brain and you'll die.
- 18:47Speaker 4: And nobody wants to see that.
- 18:49Speaker 3: OK, let's take a break. We'll come back.
- 18:52Speaker 2: And there is a new White House Women's Health Initiative.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And assuming it has to do with the only way
- 18:58Speaker 2: you're going to get a federal job is to be
- 18:59Speaker 2: blonde and in your 30s. Otherwise, you're not going to
- 19:03Speaker 2: be working. No, I don't think that's correct, is it? OK,
- 19:07Speaker 2: we'll go through that. And then AI predicting cancer in
- 19:10Speaker 2: a really unusual way. We'll do all of that when
- 19:13Speaker 2: we come back.
- 19:14Speaker 5: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Next week, the voter guide, where I tell you the
- 19:25Speaker 2: way I'm going to vote, certainly not the way you're
- 19:28Speaker 2: going to vote. And I'm going to dive into mainly
- 19:31Speaker 2: the proposition starting on Monday, because we can't believe the ads.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Bunch of liars.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Can't believe the titles of these propositions.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Bunch of liars.
- 19:42Speaker 2: And so to figure out what the truth is, you
- 19:44Speaker 2: really have to dive pretty deep into it and find
- 19:46Speaker 2: out who's in favor, who's against.
- 19:48Speaker 3: And we'll do that. starting next week. In the meantime,
- 19:53Speaker 3: we finish with medical news.
- 19:54Speaker 4: Dr.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Jim Keeney has been with us, oh my God, almost
- 19:56Speaker 2: 30 years. Jim is chief medical officer for Dignity St.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. All right, Jim, you know, here,
- 20:05Speaker 2: let me do this one. The AI prediction of cancer survival.
- 20:10Speaker 2: And as I read this, I'm going, come on, really?
- 20:13Speaker 2: From a photograph of your face? Is that real? Is
- 20:17Speaker 2: there a connection?
- 20:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:18Speaker 6: I mean, this is Mass General at Brigham Hospital, so
- 20:22Speaker 6: a well-known and well-respected hospital. They're using facial recognition software
- 20:28Speaker 6: that looks at specific things related to biological age and
- 20:32Speaker 6: cancer issues. You send it a selfie, and it basically
- 20:38Speaker 6: can predict the future.
- 20:39Speaker 4: Now, is this really going to be used?
- 20:42Speaker 6: Because the questions you need to know for a screening
- 20:44Speaker 6: test is, number one, how often does it detect cancer
- 20:49Speaker 6: when it's actually there? We have no idea with this yet.
- 20:52Speaker 6: Number two, how often does it falsely say you have
- 20:55Speaker 6: cancer when you don't? Because if we're looking for a
- 20:58Speaker 6: cancer and suddenly you're getting this false positive over and
- 21:02Speaker 6: over and over again, you can overwhelm the system and
- 21:04Speaker 6: overwhelm patients as well. So we're not anywhere near this
- 21:08Speaker 6: being used for like a screencast.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Meaning for cancer.
- 21:11Speaker 6: But I mean, what if your face eventually became like
- 21:15Speaker 6: a medical vital sign where we scan your face? You know,
- 21:18Speaker 6: it's based on things like changes in tissue, signs of frailty. So,
- 21:21Speaker 6: you know, maybe the eyes, you know, you get you
- 21:25Speaker 6: get more wrinkling because you've lost fat around the eyes.
- 21:28Speaker 6: You know, that's usually if you're going to lose fat
- 21:31Speaker 6: in your face, that's something serious going on or you're
- 21:33Speaker 6: on Ozempic, right?
- 21:34Speaker 4: It's one of the two. I'm wondering how Ozempic is
- 21:36Speaker 4: going to impact this.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Let me ask this.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Don't you then need a comparison, a baseline where you
- 21:43Speaker 2: can't just send a photo because the algorithm doesn't know
- 21:47Speaker 2: what you look like? I mean, what if you're already
- 21:49Speaker 2: predisposed to wrinkles?
- 21:51Speaker 4: No, that's the great thing about AI. It's insane.
- 21:54Speaker 6: When you feed it, they said it's 40 million facial images.
- 21:58Speaker 6: So it knows what your face is supposed to look like,
- 22:01Speaker 6: even if it's never seen you before.
- 22:03Speaker 4: That's the incredible part about it.
- 22:04Speaker 6: And so it knows, you know, to what level people
- 22:07Speaker 6: should generally have, you know, fat around their eyes or
- 22:11Speaker 6: musculature in their face, bone exposure, that type of thing.
- 22:14Speaker 6: It doesn't need an old picture.
- 22:17Speaker 2: You know, you're running a medical center.
- 22:18Speaker 3: You're the medical director.
- 22:19Speaker 2: How much time do you spend talking about looking at digesting,
- 22:26Speaker 2: trying to digest? figure out how AI is going to
- 22:29Speaker 2: affect you and your hospital specifically?
- 22:32Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. My day is basically more practical, right? Just
- 22:36Speaker 6: trying to make sure patients are getting excellent care and
- 22:39Speaker 6: getting through the system and all that stuff, and doctors
- 22:42Speaker 6: are doing what they're supposed to do, and we have
- 22:44Speaker 6: a good connection with the nurses, right? That's my job,
- 22:47Speaker 6: but I spend a lot of time thinking about it,
- 22:51Speaker 6: and we do talk about AI quite a bit because
- 22:54Speaker 6: something's got to change. Right now, healthcare is so flipping expensive,
- 22:58Speaker 6: and it takes so long to get through the system.
- 23:00Speaker 6: If there's ways that we can improve access for patients,
- 23:04Speaker 6: maybe by getting them through a system faster or by
- 23:07Speaker 6: being able to eliminate certain people that don't need to
- 23:10Speaker 6: be admitted to the hospital just to check, all those
- 23:13Speaker 6: kind of things, we're looking into that because I do
- 23:15Speaker 6: think It's already significantly changed the practice of medicine, and
- 23:20Speaker 6: it'll continue into the future. We just don't know exactly
- 23:23Speaker 6: how yet. A lot of people have wasted a lot
- 23:26Speaker 6: of money trying things that just don't pan out. But
- 23:28Speaker 6: in the future, this is definitely going to change how
- 23:31Speaker 6: we practice medicine.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Okay.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Have you utilized an AI program in running your hospital up.
- 23:37Speaker 3: To this point?
- 23:38Speaker 4: I use it all the time.
- 23:39Speaker 6: I mean, I use it if I have a big
- 23:41Speaker 6: file of data that I need to present to the doctors,
- 23:44Speaker 6: I just give the AI the data and say, make
- 23:48Speaker 6: me a six slide PowerPoint presentation. And then I don't
- 23:52Speaker 6: have to do all that grunt work. And now I
- 23:54Speaker 6: can just edit it quickly. or change whatever I need
- 23:57Speaker 6: to change, but it can compress all that data into understandable.
- 24:02Speaker 6: So I'm no longer, I used to bore them to
- 24:05Speaker 6: death with data that was very important that they needed
- 24:08Speaker 6: to understand. And now the AI can actually create a
- 24:11Speaker 6: very streamlined view of the data so that they can
- 24:15Speaker 6: better understand what's happening with our patients, what's going on,
- 24:18Speaker 6: how they could change their practice to improve patient care,
- 24:21Speaker 6: all of that.
- 24:22Speaker 2: So that basically makes you less boring. So let me
- 24:26Speaker 2: do this. Next time we have lunch, bring it along,
- 24:28Speaker 2: would you please?
- 24:29Speaker 4: I will. And you'll find it much more fascinating than me.
- 24:32Speaker 2: There you go. All right, we're done. We'll talk to
- 24:35Speaker 2: Jim again next week. In the meantime, this is it
- 24:38Speaker 2: for our Wednesday show coming up. Gary and Shannon tomorrow morning.
- 24:43Speaker 2: We start all over again. That's Amy and Will. Wake
- 24:46Speaker 2: up call. Neil and I jump in from six to nine. Mario,
- 24:50Speaker 2: our new guy, is here with Anne, our old gal.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Am I even allowed to say gal? Is that considered sexist? Gal? Gal, yeah.
- 24:57Speaker 3: I think you're okay with gal, aren't you? Old woman.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Old broad. Yeah, chippy broad. That might be a little pushy.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Bird. Oh, they do that in Australia and New Zealand.
- 25:08Speaker 2: All right, guys, you have a good one. We'll catch
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