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The Ten Kings and the Coming Tribulation | Tim Moore & Nathan Jones · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: Church that loves Bible prophecy, so we fit right in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, chishum Creek Baptist Church, Boy, did they love Bible prophecy.
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  Speaker 2: They ate it up that questions were big. They bought
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  Speaker 2: every book we had. They really wanted to learn more.
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  Speaker 2: So I love churches that are so excited about the church.
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  Speaker 1: About a couple hundred people good size.
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  Speaker 3: So let's let's kind of jump in a little bit
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  Speaker 3: and kind of some of the topics that you guys
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  Speaker 3: were discussing.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 3: The church. You know, you're in the church environment, which
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  Speaker 3: is it was just good and so kind of what
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  Speaker 3: did you discuss.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, a lot of times churches are not
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  Speaker 4: as exposed to Bible prophecy. Fortunately they had a pastor
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  Speaker 4: who had been diving deep into Bible prophecy. But we
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  Speaker 4: still started off with kind of an introductory session on
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  Speaker 4: the significance of Bible prophecy, why should we study it?
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  Speaker 4: And then we jumped into signs of the Times. And
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  Speaker 4: I think many Christians who have had very little exposure
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  Speaker 4: to God's prophetic word don't understand fully why it is
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  Speaker 4: significant to their walk with Christ and even to their
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  Speaker 4: understanding of everything that's happening in the world.
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  Speaker 3: So in that I think that speaks about I know, pastorally.
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  Speaker 3: From my perspective is I didn't preach on prophecy every Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I would preach through the scripture, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you name it, and then when it would appear, you
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  Speaker 3: would talk about it. But then on Sundays, like maybe
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  Speaker 3: like a Sunday school or Wednesday night, I would I'd
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  Speaker 3: venture in and to remind people. But that was even
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  Speaker 3: a few years ago. I mean, what do you see,
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  Speaker 3: How are things different from even three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny. Growing up, I always went
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  Speaker 2: to churches that taught Bible prophecy. It just it's not
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  Speaker 2: that they went out of their way to teach it.
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  Speaker 2: They just it was just integrated if the verse came
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  Speaker 2: up and then you taught it. I always love Revelation
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  Speaker 2: one three. Blessed as he who reads and those hear
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  Speaker 2: the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which
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  Speaker 2: are written in for the time is near. So here's
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  Speaker 2: a blessing about studying the thirty one percent of the
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  Speaker 2: Bible that's prophecy. But I do agree because you know,
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  Speaker 2: growing up in the eighties and nineties, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: bigger emphasis on prophecy, as our doctor Reagan, our founder
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  Speaker 2: calls a christendome. And as time goes by, people are
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  Speaker 2: losing the interest and even though more of the signs
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  Speaker 2: of the times are being fulfilled now. So to answer
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  Speaker 2: your question, I see the change being more of away
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  Speaker 2: from loving Bible prophecy, but it's actually a fulfillment of
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  Speaker 2: Bible prophecy. Right. The Church of Laodicea is supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be apathetic.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the masses maybe moving away, But there
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  Speaker 4: are individuals i'll call it the remnant part of the
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  Speaker 4: church that is more excited, and I think they have
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  Speaker 4: seen things just in the last few years with government
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  Speaker 4: mandates obviously during the pandemic, and with all sorts of
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  Speaker 4: signs multiplying. So that gets to our concept of the
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  Speaker 4: six categories of signs we talk about, and they're more
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  Speaker 4: obvious to even the spiritually undiscerning. It's hard to argue
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  Speaker 4: that our society is going through a major moral breakdown,
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  Speaker 4: and so people are recognizing, you know, something's afoot and
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  Speaker 4: perhaps the Bible has something to say about that. And
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  Speaker 4: so within those people who are spiritually discerning and not
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  Speaker 4: to denegrade others, but there's a clear understanding that God's
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  Speaker 4: word probably has something to say about this current moment.
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  Speaker 2: And with the church asleep. It's interesting as I talked
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  Speaker 2: to our missional marketing group who manages our Google adword campaign,
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  Speaker 2: and they mostly have churches. I think we're probably the
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  Speaker 2: only Bible prophecy of ministry I have. They say, you
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  Speaker 2: guys get more interest and people stay on your pages
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  Speaker 2: more than any church site that we manage the world
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  Speaker 2: out there, even if they don't know the Lord, are
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  Speaker 2: hungry for trying to understand what's going on, and they're
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  Speaker 2: coming to the Bible to try to understand it. So
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  Speaker 2: it's become a great outreach. You know. Prophecy is really
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  Speaker 2: for the edification of the church, but we're seeing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people who are unchurched or barely churched seeing
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  Speaker 2: what's going around, and more alert about that than the churches.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. What I see too is the media would have
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  Speaker 3: us believe that, you know, there's a politicalization of everything,
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  Speaker 3: but there's still this undercurrent of God drawing people always, always,
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  Speaker 3: and so there's confusion. People want to have order, they
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  Speaker 3: want to unders, they want to know if the world
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  Speaker 3: is ending. I mean, who wouldn't generally wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 3: know that, but for them to come and they're going
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  Speaker 3: to turn to not necessarily the church, but they'll turn
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  Speaker 3: to people, and they'll turn to the innert because the
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  Speaker 3: internet's one of those things you can do quietly. You
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  Speaker 3: don't need to expose yourself of being a religious wacko,
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  Speaker 3: and you can just look, well, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: So you mentioned something Tim about the six categories. Let's
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  Speaker 3: for those that might not know what six categories are
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  Speaker 3: we talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's six categories that doctor David Reagan delineated several
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  Speaker 4: years ago to try to put to order. All the
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  Speaker 4: things that are happening around us are the signs of nature,
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  Speaker 4: and that would be storms, increase in famines, earthquakes, you
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  Speaker 4: name it.
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  Speaker 1: And that is demonstrably true.
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  Speaker 4: When I served in the legislature, I tell people we
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  Speaker 4: get a magazine every month, and one month that came
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  Speaker 4: out with a cover article about how storms are increasing
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  Speaker 4: in frequency and intensity.
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  Speaker 1: Now, some would chalk that up to.
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  Speaker 4: Global warming or of course light change, but we know
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  Speaker 4: it's a fulfillment Bible prophet, and the editors had no idea.
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  Speaker 4: They were actually proclaiming the fulfillment of God's work. We
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  Speaker 4: talk about the signs of society, and boy have those
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  Speaker 4: multiplied just in the last generation. Who would have dreamed
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  Speaker 4: in twenty or twenty years ago where we would be
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  Speaker 4: today as a society. And so even the spiritually undiscerning
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  Speaker 4: recognize something is changing dramatically before our eyes. And the
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  Speaker 4: Bible speaks to that and said the world will come
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  Speaker 4: more violent and be just like the days of Noah.
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  Speaker 4: And then you get spiritual signs, and these are both
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  Speaker 4: negative and positive. An outbreak of apostasy and heresy, persecution
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  Speaker 4: even in places like America and Canada in places that
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  Speaker 4: ought to be steeped in Christianity, and the Church is
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  Speaker 4: being persecuted like never before.
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  Speaker 2: But a big push towards evangelism.
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  Speaker 1: The positive side, exactly, very positive side.
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  Speaker 4: So now we have the ability to reach the entire
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  Speaker 4: world through the Internet and other tools with the Gospel
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  Speaker 4: of Jesus Christ. So very quickly were our negative and
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  Speaker 4: positive signs. We have the signs of world politics, So
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  Speaker 4: the re emergence of the very nations that the Bible
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  Speaker 4: talks about coming together in the end times against Israel
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  Speaker 4: and leading toward this one world government. So all those
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  Speaker 4: things are happening before our very eyes. You know, it
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  Speaker 4: was less than twenty years ago that the President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States scoffed at the threat from Russia being
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  Speaker 4: a power in the world again, and yet once more
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  Speaker 4: we see Russia emerging. So world politics are coming into alignment,
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  Speaker 4: just as Bible prophecy declare it. We call it the
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  Speaker 4: next category, signs of technology. And you think technology in
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  Speaker 4: the Bible, but modern technology allows the fulfillment of so
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  Speaker 4: many prophecies that people in years.
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  Speaker 1: Gone by could not even fathom.
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  Speaker 4: Well, how will the whole world look upon two witnesses
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  Speaker 4: lying in the streets of Jerusalem, How will one man
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  Speaker 4: with this one world government control the buying and selling?
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  Speaker 4: Now we know that technology allows many of the prophecies
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  Speaker 4: in scripture to be fulfilled. And the final sign, the
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  Speaker 4: sixth category, is the signs of Israel as God's prophetic
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  Speaker 4: time clock. Israel coming back on the world scene, repossessing
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  Speaker 4: Jerusalem as its ancient capital, and the whole world's focus
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  Speaker 4: being on Israel is an absolute fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything you want, anything add to that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the signs of the times are scrolling around us
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  Speaker 2: a bit. Jesus also compared him to the birth pains.
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  Speaker 2: He said, as the closer we got to his return,
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  Speaker 2: they would increase like a woman in childbirth, and frequency
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  Speaker 2: and intensity. So the signs would come closer and closer together.
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  Speaker 2: So natural weather disasters, for instance, will become more frequent.
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  Speaker 2: They'll come more often, but they'll also be greater and intensity,
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  Speaker 2: more disaster. You all are located in Oklahoma, and we
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  Speaker 2: just heard what a week or two ago, you survived
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  Speaker 2: yet another tornado blast. Praise the Lord to but our
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  Speaker 2: good friend Jeff Kinley and over in Arkansas, the neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: next to him was just wipe clean off the map
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  Speaker 2: by a tornado. And we're just getting these weather disasters.
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  Speaker 2: And so, like Tim said, how's the world trying to
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  Speaker 2: perceive it? Well, they don't have the biblical worldview to
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  Speaker 2: look through, so they're looking through an environmental worldview. And
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  Speaker 2: so the global alarmists or about the climate changer are
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  Speaker 2: onto something, but they don't understand that it's really God
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  Speaker 2: trying to shake the world up for the purpose of saying,
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  Speaker 2: return to me. I want that right relationship. Repent and
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  Speaker 2: return to me. That's what it's all about. To get
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  Speaker 2: the world excited. And we have ministries like ours that
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  Speaker 2: are meant to go out there and tell people this,
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  Speaker 2: show them so we could point them to Jesus and
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  Speaker 2: they could get sad.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Mondo, you like to gaze at the stars,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm fascinated by astronomy as well. And so all
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  Speaker 4: of the people who are fascinated by the heavens, whether
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  Speaker 4: they're Christians or secular see the same stars, and yet
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  Speaker 4: they interpret them differently in terms of how they got
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  Speaker 4: to be there. And we understand that a creator God
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  Speaker 4: flung the heavens into existence through his mere word and
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  Speaker 4: it is a testimony to his glory and his power,
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  Speaker 4: and seculars to dismiss God, they don't accept that. So
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  Speaker 4: people can see many of these same signs, but they
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  Speaker 4: will be interpreted differently by someone who understands that God
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  Speaker 4: foretold all these things to come true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can re even revelation and the sealed judgments.
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  Speaker 2: When it sounds like something nuclear in nature happens, and
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  Speaker 2: all the great people and they hide in the mountains
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  Speaker 2: and they say, save us from the wrath of the lamb.
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  Speaker 2: They know it's God. At that point, probably because of
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  Speaker 2: the result of the God Maygog war, which is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to bring the world into knowing there's a God. So
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  Speaker 2: everybody going into the tribulation time paer that this all
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  Speaker 2: leads up to will know God and make a decision
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  Speaker 2: for him or not. I mean, isn't that what a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times God uses persecution for, or pressure, or
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  Speaker 2: the natural disasters or social disasters. It's to wake us
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  Speaker 2: up to the spiritual world, which a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: we're apathetic about because we're so kind of stuck in
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  Speaker 2: the day to day routine.
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  Speaker 3: There's a verse that comes to mind in Job Job
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  Speaker 3: thirty six to fifteen where he says affliction causes our
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  Speaker 3: ears to be opened. You're like, you know, that's well said,
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  Speaker 3: and because it's true.
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  Speaker 4: The other verse that I would harken to anytime we
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  Speaker 4: talk about prophecy, because prophecy can become an esoteric topics that, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the fanatics are chasing after prophecy and signs and all
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  Speaker 4: these things. But really, just like our ministries title Lamb
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  Speaker 4: and Lion ministries, how do we come up with that?
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  Speaker 4: As we were discussed a moment ago, it's because it
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  Speaker 4: points to Jesus Christ. He came as the sacrificial lamb.
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  Speaker 4: He is coming back as the roaring lion of Judah.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you go to Revelation chapter nineteen, verse ten,
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  Speaker 4: it says that we should worship God for the witness
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  Speaker 4: of Jesus. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
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  Speaker 4: So everything we talk about in terms of Bible prophecy
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  Speaker 4: is not just chasing after the signs as an endom
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  Speaker 4: to themselves, but because they point to the soon return
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  Speaker 4: of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a major point because if you're a Bible
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  Speaker 2: prophecy ministry and you're hung up on tiny little details
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  Speaker 2: or sensationalist stuff or getting into some deep doctrine or
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  Speaker 2: Hebrew roots or whatever, you're missing the point. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: our call is what does a prophet do? Now we
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  Speaker 2: don't believe in the foretelling it that's been completed by
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  Speaker 2: the closing of the Cannon, but the fourth telling of
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  Speaker 2: warning the people to repent and return to the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: That is the major mission of or should be a
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  Speaker 2: Bible prophecy ministries. We cover the topics underneath that umbrella,
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  Speaker 2: but it's all that little point in the top of
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  Speaker 2: the umbrella points to Jesus Christ, and that's our real
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  Speaker 2: truth for this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I was to summarize it, even
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  Speaker 3: pastoral and what you know, somebody would say, why are
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  Speaker 3: we talking about this which you have people do, why
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  Speaker 3: are we spending time on You're like, Well, two reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One is that it shows it's evangelistic in nature, not
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  Speaker 3: only to give them a frame of reference of understanding
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  Speaker 3: the world and the problems that we see. Secondly, it
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  Speaker 3: shows the evangelistically that the Bible's true. The Bible's only
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  Speaker 3: book in the world that has prophetic material in it
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  Speaker 3: that's hundred percent true. But then so you have that angle.
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  Speaker 3: But then personally it reminds us to always be ready, yes,
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  Speaker 3: to be pure right, if you have this hope, then
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  Speaker 3: you'll purify yourself. So this idea of Jesus saying what
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  Speaker 3: I tell you, tell everybody watch so why because we
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  Speaker 3: when he comes, we want to be found ready. And
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  Speaker 3: I would say, hey, look, as a pastor, my job
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  Speaker 3: is so that it goes well with you when you
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  Speaker 3: stand before the judgment seat of Christ. And I want
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  Speaker 3: to see you your rewards go well and for you
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  Speaker 3: to be caught, not caught off guard.
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  Speaker 2: The lords go ahead. I'm sorry, Oh, I'm just going
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  Speaker 2: to add to the Lord said that we're to watch
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  Speaker 2: again and again. We're supposed to watch, and he says
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  Speaker 2: we're supposed to work, and we says we're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: live holy lives. So you've got the watching, the evangelism,
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  Speaker 2: and the holiness. I don't know what pastor wouldn't want that.
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  Speaker 1: Happens three and we are called to be watchmen.
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  Speaker 4: But if we understand the signs of the times and
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  Speaker 4: the imminence of Jesus return, and we don't warn people,
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  Speaker 4: we don't warn them too, as I spoke of this weekend,
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  Speaker 4: warn them to flee from the wrath to come. Then
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  Speaker 4: really their blood is on our heads. So we have
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  Speaker 4: a responsibility to share the good news that Jesus saves,
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  Speaker 4: but to warn those who are lost to flee from
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  Speaker 4: God's wrath into the loving arms.
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  Speaker 2: Of our safe Tim has a whole sermon on he
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  Speaker 2: told it usually ends our what we do conferences giving
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  Speaker 2: that message because it focuses people on what's important.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the Baptist. Yeah that's good. Well, you know
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  Speaker 3: one of the other topics which I think kind of
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  Speaker 3: comes along here, which has been I've seen kind of
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  Speaker 3: a shift recently in the past couple of years, and
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  Speaker 3: we've done a lot on it. Here in the magazine,
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  Speaker 3: Gary wrote an article on the who. His article is
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  Speaker 3: on the ten Kings, and he's saying, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people are looking for the Antichrist. Who he is? You know,
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  Speaker 3: he said, but we know that the ten Kings are
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  Speaker 3: there prior to him, so we should be looking for
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  Speaker 3: the ten Kings, okay in that sense. And so then
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  Speaker 3: I wrote a follow up article. And I know that
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  Speaker 3: it causes it challenges tradition, you know. And let's not
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  Speaker 3: make a mistake. I know that here even in the
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  Speaker 3: prophecy world, the dispensational world, I mean we're dispensational. We
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  Speaker 3: make a distinction between the Church and Israel. But people
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  Speaker 3: you start messing with some of these sacred cows, and
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  Speaker 3: people get irritated, and.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how do you see the ten Kings? Because some
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  Speaker 2: interpret it that that the revived Roman Empire? Do you, Europe,
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  Speaker 2: what is the world?
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  Speaker 3: Give us the typical and then and then I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you my thoughts. But what is the typical traditional interpretation?
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  Speaker 2: I think the traditional view was that Europe would divide
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  Speaker 2: into ten regions. They saw the European Union rise. It's
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  Speaker 2: got what twenty I think twenty seven just joined. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so now it's correct. Yeah, it comes again.
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  Speaker 1: NATO is a comparison.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's a good point. So the idea is, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well those will divide into ten and then the Antichrist
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  Speaker 2: will be the little horn who will rise up, subdue
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  Speaker 2: three and take over. But when you read in the
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  Speaker 2: end of Book of Revelation where the antichrist empire is
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  Speaker 2: falling apart and he goes against the king of the
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  Speaker 2: South to put down a rebellion, but the kings of
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  Speaker 2: the East are coming. Yeah, all of a sudden, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like, well, why would you divide Europe into ten regions?
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  Speaker 2: You can go to the UN and see even back
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  Speaker 2: in the fifties they had the world mapped into ten regions.
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  Speaker 2: Y and so I think the traditional view to answer
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  Speaker 2: your question is it's a European Union division of ten.
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  Speaker 2: But I think biblically, and it's more getting more popular now,
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  Speaker 2: is that the world is divided.
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  Speaker 3: Into ten reason and I remember watching back in the
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  Speaker 3: nineties Jack Venimpi, and so back then it was you know,
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  Speaker 3: there were ten nations in the European Union, and then
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  Speaker 3: it went and then so then it was like, okay, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: here's ten, and then minus three because he's got to
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  Speaker 3: take down three and there's seven left and here we are. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then it went to thirteen, and so he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I got to change my view on this. So he's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: now we know, see there's thirteen and they take away three
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  Speaker 3: and now we're going to be back at ten. So
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  Speaker 3: and he's trying his best, you know, to understand it
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  Speaker 3: from the European Yeah, but then it went to eighteen
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  Speaker 3: twenty and he's like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's a Eurocentric.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Nathan made the point over the weekend people always sa ask, well,
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  Speaker 4: where's American Bible prophecy? And he said, and he's right.
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  Speaker 4: When we go to speak elsewhere, nobody says, well, where's
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Canada and Bible prophecy? Where's Mexico and Bible prophecy? They
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: don't ask that question. We are so self absorbed in
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: the West that we think everything revolves around us. And
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the truth is, the Lord's throne is not draped in
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: an American flag. And he is looking at the whole globe,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: and so there are whole other sectors of the world
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: population that I think will play into the end times.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: And so this ten king coalition doesn't just have to
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: come from Europe. I think that is a traditional view
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: because that was where power was consolidated for so long.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: But right now the world power is shifting. It's shifting east,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: and so.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Not just to China.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: China is actually this month going to fall from prominence
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: as the most populous nation in the world. You all
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: know that it's going to be India, and so India
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: is rising, and there are other parts of the world
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: that will continue to have great prominence even into the
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: end times, probably as the United States decreases in prominence.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So I agree with Nathan, I'm not sure that it
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: will be this European coalition, even though that's where the
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Antichrist will be.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Cause we do know that there's a worldwide you know, relationshipt.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: It is worldwide all nations times. We know that. So
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: my thinking when when I wrote my article was.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're you're going to take it in a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: different direction.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I read this articles like, Okay, you we have
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the europe model you have the un model the ten regions,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: and I thought, well, okay, it could be. I'm not
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: saying that that's absolutely wrong, but when you look at
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Revelation seventeen twelve, it talks about that these are people,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: these are kings. It says he was working. We just
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier, Yeah, which means rulers vasileas. It can
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: mean an actual guy that's in an official position, or
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it can mean somebody that has just the way that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: the lexicon reads is transcendent power, transcendent influence. And so
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: as I was thinking through and I'm like, okay, if
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: we look around, like here's the test question, which I
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: think helps substantiate to people's thinking. Right now, we look, okay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: who's the number one superpower in the world US Probably right,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: we're waiting, but we're still.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: We're still there, bigger than the next ten after.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we say, maybe you know, we're number one, China,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Russia is still maybe Europe as a nation that let's
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: just single. So right now, here's my question. If on
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: the International Space Station there's a there's a leak, there
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: has been a leak, but let's say it was a
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: major leak, all of a sudden boom. We need to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: be rescued within a week. This is it. Oxygen has gone.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: What would what would the what would NASA do?
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Go?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they go to Elon to k Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Here you have think about this.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: And all the other rockets have been blown up lately.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Right, you have the world superpower would go to a
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: private individual and say can you help us? And he
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: would say, now, maybe I don't know him. Maybe he'd
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: be magnanimous and be like, oh, of course, of course,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: but he might say, hey, I need forty thousand. I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: have plans for forty thousand of my rockets or my
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: satellites to go up from the FCC. You've only improved
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: twelve thousand. I'll be happy to help.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, make a deal.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Let's make a deal. So when you think about that,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and that's what kind of struck me is you look
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: at what his technological advances are doing. And then you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: mentioned before we were talking in China. There's a whole
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: bunch of things going on in China. But these figures.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: What it says in relation seventeen is that the Antichrist
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: will go to these ten figures. I call them influencers
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and technocrats, aligarks, so whatever you want to call, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: he makes a deal with them, and so he gives
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: them a right to rule for that one hour period,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: which not just sixty minutes. He comes in and he says, hey,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: let's come together. I'll give you the right to rule
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: with me. But he's looking for something. So in my
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: fictional narrative, he goes to these ten guys and says, okay, elon,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I want your I want your fifty thousand satellites that
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: you have now, which who knows what it'll be, because
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I need to surveil everything I want I want to use. Basically,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: he says, I want your guys's technology, but I'll give
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you the right to rule. Because you think about what
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: these guys have and what they don't have. So I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: look at as a theory, as a possibility that what
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: maybe has been missing is the opportunity for these ten
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: guys to be extremely wealthy, technologically advanced, to come and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: powerful to offer him something the Antichrist, something he's going
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to do like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: A mafia mindset that the head boss makes him an
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: offer they can't refuse. But in the process of giving
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: power to those ten, he is actually consolidating his own
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: rule and authority.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I can see that as well a lot
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of times.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Having been in politics, I can tell you that the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: power brokers are not the elected officials.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They are the front people.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: For other powers and other movements and dynamics that are
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes. And some of these guys that are
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes, they.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Don't even want to be seen.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to create a conspiracy mindset, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying there are a lot of moving pieces and.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Sometimes who you see.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Well, in our own nation, there are a lot of
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: folks that realize Joe Biden isn't really pulling all the
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: strings in the White House.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: How much influence does George Soros have behind the.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Scenes At my level when I was in politics, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: never would have heard of his name except money was
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: beginning to feed toward people like the district attorneys that
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: run and some of the attorney generals at the state level.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And that is is swaying things dramatically in our nation,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: and obviously with certain races. Again not in mind, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you can see his fingerprints on a lot of things.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So Gidbridge couldn't even say his name on TV without
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: him shutting him off. I mean, he holds that much
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: power over the.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Media, and it's because of money.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: And so the guys that have that kind of money,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: whether it's the Zoros or Zuckerberg or b.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Not just the American side of the Russian Chinese side, and.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: That's why they're trying to take out a lot of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: these Russian oligarchs, because they're actually power brokers in competition
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: with our power brokers. I mean, well, you said Zuckerberg
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: actually had changed the last election with his using his
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: what half a billion dollars that he put into canvassing
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: neighborhoods and doing harvesting.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Or only changed the electionizes that that is a bully button,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: if you will, to be pushed. Because when we were
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: trying to push Putin out, quite frank, they were appealing
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: to some of those oligarchs to take him out. That's
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: what our government was sending signals to do because they
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: realized the power behind even despot in Russia is not
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin himself. He is to a degree the figurehead,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: but all these guys behind him have a lot.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: So let's let's let's let's think about that for a
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: second and kind of go a little further, we talk
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: about multinational corporations wealth. So in reality, governments themselves have
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: very They have the political clout only because of maybe
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a constitution or a poleman or whatever. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: in reality, what who controls the narrative? We have technology,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: we have media.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Right we look look at Tucker Cross again recently kicked
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: out recently, Yeah, and you know they're they're trying to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: slam him. I mean, every article coming out by the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: media is, oh, he had he was a terror to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: work with, or he we had to redact his tweets
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and all this crazy stuff. It's like, no, he was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: exposing everything that was going on. And I love Freedom Tunes.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: You guys ever watched Freedom Tunes on YouTube? And he
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: has one reason. When Tucker gets fired and he's walking
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: down the street all kind of depressed, and he passes
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this bank of TVs and it's every news channel out there,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and they're saying the exact same thing across the scripted
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: across you. And I've always wondered who is at the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: top of this pyramid, Who's making those decisions, Because these
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: media companies are owned by other companies which are owned
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: by bash. You go up to at and T and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: so and all these mega companies, and we read about
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: how the destruction of Babylon and the end of Revelation,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: just before the Lord returns, it's destroyed one hour. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: who mourns the death of Babylon. The merchants and the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: power brokers, the people who own the companies, as these
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: giant companies gobble up all the companies. And then always
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: saw during the pandemic you could go to Amazon, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: go to Walmart and a handful of others, but everybody
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: else had to close. I think you're onto something there,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but I think it might be a mix, because it
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: seems like every politician since maybe h George hw Bush
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: or even Bill Clinton, we're openly saying that thinking and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: saying that the presidency was only a step towards the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: next thing that they wanted a bigger piece of the pie,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and that was you and representation or something we.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Back to do with program on Dwight. David Eisenhower is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: one of the figures. But I think that he identified
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: what he called the military.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Industrial complexactly, and now there are other complexes. So there
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: is a medical industrial complex. We spend more money in
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the United States on healthcare than any other nation in
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the world, and our healthcare is actually degrading relative to
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: many other nations who spend half as much. And so
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it's because we have a medical industrial complex, mainly with
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: drug companies, and they have tremendous clout across the board
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: with the politicians. And that's just one sector. And so
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: if you can imagine all these other as you said,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: technocrats and people with major, major money, that becomes a
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: power in and of itself, and at some point the
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: tipping point will arrive when they will gain even more control.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Well, how much attimed the lobbyist control, because it seems
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: like the lobbyists because you're saying that the politicians are
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the front men extension representation of these characters. It did
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it seem like every time you were you were in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the Kentucky legislation, some lobbyists was in chying to.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: There were lobbyists yes on certain issues, and they had
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: tremendous cloud And I think it's getting worse in a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: lot of ways because whether you look at the embrace
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: of gambling across the nation or marijuana, it's because there's
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: a tremendous and effective lobby and some people just don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have the grounding to say No. Politicians don't have I
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: think a core set of principles. Many of them they
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: just shift with the winds. And the guys, the handful
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: that do and it was a minority when I was
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: in the legislature, are very frustrating to those lobbyists and
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: oftentimes are run against by big money because they don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: want someone who stands. And that's what Christians have to do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: We need to stand and not be swayed in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: winds of whatever is politically expedient at the moment, or
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: what the world is chasing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: What question for you, mandra then is do you think
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the ten Kings will happen before or after the rapture?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Is it a reorganization in the world before or after.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: We even I tend to think that we're going to
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: see most of it. I believe I'm not a real
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: big The rapture is going to be years and years
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and years before the tribulation starts. That gap idea, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: think it's more immediate.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Especially pulling the restrainer out. It'd be hard to keep.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Awad agreed, Yeah, I don't see it. I know there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions. It brings up a lot of
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: other questions about, you know, how things fit in. But
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I still see, based on Luke seventeen others, that when
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the when the rescue happens, it's it's almost immediate, like
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Lot a Lot was taken out almost exactly before.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I think there'll be a short period because I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: the world will descend into chaos, and it's out of
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: that chaos, just like I use the example of Nazi
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Germany in the thirty the German economy had collapsed, the
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the people were desperate, and one man emerged
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to say, I can put everything right. And this mad
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: man took over a nation that was among the most
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: advanced theathologically and technologically, and he drove them to obviously
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: commit World War two. So I see that being a
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: model for what will happen shortly after the rapture.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: So as we think about those ten figures, whether I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: think about what they call fintech, you know financial you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the technology, the banking, the military, the all that that
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: comes to play is extremely influential and you can't rule
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the world without it. And so to be able to
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: have access and to make an agreement to get all
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: of that stuff I think about what we're seeing with
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk as an example, his ability for he's got
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: over four thousand satellites. Now again he's got approven for
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: twelve thousand, but already he's got over a million subscribers
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to his Internet. So you start looking at that and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: all these Thrborol countries where it's everywhere and someone can
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: go hey, and now they're figuring what some of the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: new designs the of the satellites are two way, so
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: you can have not just bringing stuff down, but where
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you can actually serve veil and so here we are
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: so to be able to see some of that come
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Or space based lasers, that's what yeah, we're watching. Yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: so we know the false prophet can do seeming miracles,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: including calling fire down from the heavens. Well, he's a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: false prophet, he's a charlatan. How's he bringing fire down
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: from heavens? Well, it could be missiles, and you know
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: they're explaining the flames out the back. But you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of work in space based and
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: laser technology, and we're even seeing some countries developed satellite killers,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: satellites that go around killing other satellites.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: So if you have those people, you know, the power
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: brokers that are behind with the money, that are able
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to influence everything, elections, right, you name it all the
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: way through. Hey, so let's make an agreement. Interesting power,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you give me your.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: But we all know it's going to be King Charles, right,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: although he's you know, we were laughing because you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: everybody says, oh, it's going to be Prince Charles or
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: King Charles. But you know, boy, that'd be the most
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: boring anti Christ on the plane to.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Be Well, this brings up kind of another topic, which
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: is kind of goes into a little bit a little
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: bit of the technology side of it. But let's talk
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: about the CBDCs.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Which are for some people central bank digital, central bank
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: digital moving away from cash.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk about the cash society because we're
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: this is one of those topics that comes up where
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I remember, I mean, I got saved in nineteen ninety three,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: so it's been thirty years, and I remember I immediately
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: started reading prophecy and and you know the frame the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: word back then it was cash less society. Cashless society, Like, well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you know, what is this learning? And uh so this
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: phrase has been around a long time. Why let's go
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: back to ninety three, before even this, before crypto, the internet,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: before internet.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly was there time before internet?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Why why would we believe there's a cashlest society.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I think that the casscription say, well, it's a means
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: to an end for the Antichrist, being able to control
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the buying and selling, and so it's not just an
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: end to itself.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's the consolidation of power.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And we're moving in that direction beginning in the nineties
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: and all the way through today, and not just through mandates.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: We've discussed how China can mandate, other nations can mandate.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Eventually our own fed may mandate. But my children don't
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: use cash. Your kids probably don't.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I don't use cash.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You don't use cash, you're a young man.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So the point being, more and more people are choosing
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: to go this way because it's convenient, but really it
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: becomes a tool for the Antichrist to have control and
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: even for governments interceding now in the Antichrist period, to
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: have control over their populace.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And really it's tied to the market. Tobaecet revelation of
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: thirteen sixteen, He who is the false prophet for the
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Antichrist causes all both small and great, rich and poor,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: free enslaved receive a mark on the right hand or
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: on their foreheads that no one may able to buy
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: or sell except the one who has the mark or
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the name of the beast or the number of his name.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: So the idea is that you can control the populace
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: by controlling their money. Well, if everybody's using cash, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: you could have start these black markets, or it would
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: be like hunger games. Everybody's trading and stuff like that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, you walk into a store and you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: don't have that tattoo or on the hand or the arm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's one way. Well, we're just we're just not going
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to serve you. But to really shut somebody off, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we've been seeing that. I think one of the most
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: frightening things that I've seen recently is when Justin Trudeau
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: shut down the Trucker protests by not only cutting them
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: off financially, cutting their insurance, cutting their employment, cutting their
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: health everything. Yeah, he basically canceled them from existence and
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: said you don't exist anymore. And we saw that our
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: countries do that with try to do that with Russia
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and Unfortunately it backfired terribly. But so we already see
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the modus operandi for a lot of nations doing this
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that will lead into the tribute.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: So we see this. Okay, So going back to the nineties,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: this these these crazy wack of Bible believers talking about
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: the yeah you troublers, cashalist society. A bunch of conspiracy there,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But in reality we've seen that based on Scripture Revelation
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: thirteen and economics is clearly there. The buying and selling,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: we've seen it come. Now every every every year there's
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: another little but here we are I think in the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: last ten years, especially with the advancement of crypto. We
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: can talk about cryptocurrency, but it's you have it at
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: a macro level, like we talk about it at a
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: macro level, but at a micro level like you just
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: mentioned Canada. Well you go to China. There's several communities,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: societies already, cities that are already one hundred percent cash
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: lists one hundred percent. I mean, it's not even it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: not make believe anymore.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Blockchain technology has its limitations.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: That's a different story.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah you could, it's not a different story because you
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: can't move everybody into certain of the like say. For
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: many years, in the least last five or six, the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: talk was that cryptocurrency would be the new digital currency.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But it can't be because tech, for one, it requires
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: massive data centers, massive power, and crypto. Eventually, the blockchain
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: is so big that it can't sustain itself anymore. So
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: now we're also hearing central bank digital currencies, currencies coming
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: out of the banks, and so it's it's a shift
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in the type of technology, and it's a shift in
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the right direction.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Well, the shift in technology, but it's also you got
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to think about the motive. I already said it. For
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: young people, it's the convenience factor. They can just get
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: on their phone and do this and they pay you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: And I paid you, Hey, I paid you a dollar
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: a quarter for the coffee you bought for me.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Venmo man constantly.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So it's convenient. Why do governments want to do it?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Because it gives them control and because they don't have
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: people buying and trading outside of a taxable exchange.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That's that's the other threat is Venmo and PayPal. Because
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: you can so put your they'll ask for a putting
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: your Uh do that for you? Hey, we need your
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Like I get this thing from PayPal, it says, hey,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: we need your so security number, otherwise we're going to
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: automatically take twenty percent of anything that comes in from
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a friend or.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Well, let's face it, every state government for years has
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: on their state tax return and you look at yours,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: it typically says how much did you purchase from electronically
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: or of the internet, and you're supposed to report that
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: so you can pay a tax on it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Well, most people, uh.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Nothing, Yeah, right, So the state governments realize they're losing
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: out on tax revenue, and so there's an incentive for
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: governments to be able to put a finger on that pulse,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: not only for the tax revenue, but to be able
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: to stop the pulse for people that get out of line,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: like the truckers in Canada. I think Nathan's right. That
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: was a traumatic example of government overreach, and yet it
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: happened in my home state. Our governor just recently was
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: forced to pay. Now he's going to use taxpayer dollars
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: to do it, a major fine for violating the constitutional
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: rights of Kentuckians by not allowing them to assemble for worship.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: And it was grossly on constitutional, but he did it,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: and so he'll pay a fine using taxpayer dollars. So
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: government is constantly going to look for ways to have
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: that kind of control and power.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And I think we could look at China as the example.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: The social credit score, where millions of cameras are following
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you an algorithm and AI is judging you based on
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: your purchases and all of that is how loyal you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: are to the government. You get a social credit score,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: which gives you a certain privileges. I saw an interview
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: with a guy who was a journalist in China. Of course,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: journalists are meant to call out government. He had the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: worst credit score possible and he could barely travel. He
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: couldn't get on trains. And we're seeing this move to
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: try to get people to live within like a fifteen
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: mile radius of their city and all their purchases, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: if you step out of that radius, well, all of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a sudden, your finances don't work anymore. And that's how
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it does in China, or like all that. That's just China,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: that's a communist country. Italy has just bought the system,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and we're hearing some of the other Western free nations
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: want to buy it. I believe it's going to eventually
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: be global.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I think people don't understand that AI is already here
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: in some ways. No young man who just completed some
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: advanced training through the military in technological weaponry and being
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: able to use computer systems to interact on a global
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: scale for not only surveillance but sometimes taking action. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: one of the examples they used in this military training
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: was the target store.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: You think the target store.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: The target store computer had enough intelligence that it was
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: able to analyze the purchases of women online to recognize, Hey,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: that lady's pregnant, even before she knew that she was pregnant.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: They had a tremendous success rate, and so they'd start
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: popping up baby products to advertise, Hey, would you like
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: to buy a new crib? And the one was like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: why am I seeing this? And two or three weeks
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: later her doctor would tell you tell her, oh, guess what,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: you're pregnant. And the computer knew before the woman herself,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: just watching on certain things that they would buy in
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: the figure that out.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: The I think is we we watched the the we
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: talked about a macro, but we was seen in the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: micro level again in China, people there, like the one
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: guy wrote a book are Ai Superpower And he says,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I went there and I walked in and I had
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: some cash, and they're like, we don't take cash in
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: the city. So he goes everywhere. I had to go
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: out of Ali Baba pe Ali app. He had to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: do it. And so one hundred percent, I mean, it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent done. But as we know, it's going
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to come at a at a larger global level. It's
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna make its way around. Because we were
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: in Israel last a few weeks ago and we were
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: in the market and it said round there no credit cards.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, we got a long way to
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: go here. If here I am no credit cards, it
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: was all it was all shekels.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Oh so they're still in cash.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: They were still So I was just interesting that the
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: idea that the raptures next week is like, hey, there's
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: still there's still those elements where that the technology is there,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: but it needs to spread the technology itself of the
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: infant structure for them to take credit cards. I mean,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: they can do it on their phones, but they didn't
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: do any of that there.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: The one thing I would differ is I think the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: rapture could be next week, because I think the Lord
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: certain things can happen very quickly. One hundred years ago,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: there were many Christians who said, well, someday Israel's come
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: to come back to being, but I don't know how.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Those Jews are very happy in places like Germany and Poland.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: So in a very short order of time, God can
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: manipulate not only world history and the politics, but even
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: the technology. And sometimes I think we don't perceive how
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: rapidly things can happen. Just look at the decay in
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: our society and how quickly it's happened.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So I still am an advocator.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Well, and we know the rapture can happen anytime, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: more in the sense the technologyause a rapture silence. Everybody
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: with the rapture silence, and I don't want to don't
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: get send me an email.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Fact to an earlier segment when we were talking about
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the ten Kings, that different segments of this. It's all
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: pieces of a puzzle that go together to make the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: infrastructure possible for one person.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: The rule of rise.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a political component, you need that, there's a technology,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: there's a financial there's you know, the people are obsessed
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: with pharmacia and during the tribulation. So there's a pharmaceutical point,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: there's a shipping point, There's all these different magnets. But
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: when you put it together, you can create a global system.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So I think, like you said, the financial part and
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the technological part has come together to fill that part
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: where the anti Christ can control the buyer song. Elon
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Musk has to have all those satellites up or some
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: kind of.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Not enough right now, there's a latency other things.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Signs are converging in that arena.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see this in Andy's Mountains. I saw
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a video of this this tribe, you know, they're living
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: up there with their lamas or whatnot, and they're all
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: walking around with cell phones connected to Elon Musk. The
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: idea is they get every single person with a cell phone.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I went to the Amazon Jungle with people living in
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: mud huts over the Amazon River, and they already had
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: technology that blew my mind.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: In the nineteen nineties, you know, you're exactly right, Nathan.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: All these signs are converging and it can happen very fast.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Just recently, Gordon Moore probably related to me, died, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: y'all kN who Gordon Moore is. He was one of
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: the founders of Microsoft, I think, but he also came
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: up with the silicon chip, and so he was a
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: pioneer in the tech world. And he said that technology
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: will double every eighteen months and all the computing power,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: that is, the storage capacity, and it will half in price.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And that's an exponential curve. So when he first came
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: out with the silicon chip, they had like eighteen transistors
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: on that chip.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Wow, eighteen.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: The most recent one had twenty billion on the same space.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: And so the advancement in technology is happening exponentially, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: that's why I say it could happen very fast.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I just saw one. I ended up getting a laptop
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and it had forty five billion transistors on there. You're
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: like this, it's insane. And as we step back and
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: we go, okay, even now with artificial intelligence, more's laws changing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: It's not eighteen months anymore. With artificial intelligence even.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Gaster exactly right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: And that's why even the United States says we're behind
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: because China is just ahead.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And with that exponential rates.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And we see the so the cash is you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: to summarize in the sense of it's been talked about
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: for a long time, it's on its way. I do
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: agree that the crypto is is is actually being it's
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: outlawed in certain places in China because why it's decentralized.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: It'll never be, it'll never be an infrastructure. But they're
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: not in play. But it's getting people. It's getting them
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: conditioned to the idea of something digital, a digital currency.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: They've had, Oh, I got this crypto I used to spend.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I can buy things. I can buy things with bitcoin.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: You can do that, but it'll it can never be
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: because that we know that's that's a lack of control
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: unless you have somebody who was to control.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: There's just a fantastic word right there. It's getting people
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: conditioned in all of these different categories. People are becoming
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: conditioned to want somebody to take charge and be in power.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: The Germans wanted a great leader, a fure. The world
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: right now is going to clamor for a safe which
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: is exactly what has been spoken of the Prime Minister
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: of Belgium. Spock said, we need a man who is
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: going to take charge. So the world is being conditioned
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: in all these different arenas politically, financially, technologically to embrace
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: the coming one world government and the coming Antichrist.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And that's what we have such a leadership vacuum right now.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, all across the planet, they're looking for who's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the strongest guy who could possibly and we got psychopaths
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: like Xijingping and Putin, but the rest of them are
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: weak and poor, and so I think when you get
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a strong leader, people are clamoring for that. They'll they'll
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: turn it. Even Israel, that's where the Lord said that
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: someone will come in my name and you'll follow him.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, the people want that, And I wonder if
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: we have such a leadership vacuum across the planet because
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the Lord is using that to work towards a super
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: powerful leader to come up. And that's why I think
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of when people talk about the Antichrist, so
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: who could he be? I don't think anybody on the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: board possibly could do that, because it'll qualify and we
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: let's say Putin's Gog of the Gog, make gog war wobee,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: and the kings of these will become weak until the
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: very end.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Of until the very quickly, yeah, very quickly, Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I agree. Well, let's switch over to another topic. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that is a thing that's been discussed for years and
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: years and years, and that's really the Ezekiel thirty eight.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember again being a young Christian. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: had my prophecy Bible, you know, and I read about
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: it says war with Russia. And I was like, what
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: warworth Russia with Israel? That's in the Bible, and so
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: it said He's Ego thirty eight, And so I go
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: there and I'm reading and I did not see the
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: word Russia, and I was like, what in the world,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: what are they talking about? And so it's interesting how
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: this idea of the war, of a Middle Eastern war
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: surrounding the nation of Israel. And then we can talk,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you know, whether Palmatey three is a prophecy or not.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Isaiah you know seventeen with Damascus and Jeremi forty nine
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: with the Elam, you have all of these, those are
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: all possibilities. I think everybody agrees with He's Ego thirty
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: for the most part, is one hundred percent of prophecy
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: for sure. But now that's been going on people, I
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: have been talking about it since in the early nineties.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: But then I'll say this. You know the big players, Russia, Iran,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and Turkey, you know those three. And at the time,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Turkey was a friend of the West in the early nineties,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: but then I remember the switch.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Well, it's still a member of NATO, member of natally,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: it's still a friend of the West, but it's realigning.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think you're right.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: There was a buzz if you will, in the early
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: nineties and in years gone by, but people didn't quite
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: see how it come to pass because well, Turkey is
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: a friend. You mentioned Russia not being in here. What
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: we're talking about when you look at Ezekiel thirty nine
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: is some of the nations that are listed. So it
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: doesn't list Iran, but it lists Persia, and Persia clearly
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: is where Iran is today. It lists some other nations
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: that are still around, like Ethiopia. But when it talks
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: about Meyshek and Tubul and the Rush people from people
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: of Rush, well, it's a king to the north, and
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: so whether Gog and Magog are actual names or whether
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: they're titles, it was the reference to this this land,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: this kingdom or empire from the north that's going to
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: seek power and to seek to come and take spoil
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: and plunder from Israel.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: And for years people say, well, what do they want
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: in Israel?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: It's destiny back again. In the nineties, it was fruit,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: that was.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Fruit, or salt salty in the eights.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Why would you want to go to Israel. It's a
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: god forsaken place. It's empty desert land and swampland. But
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: today we understand Israel is not only a high tech
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: center of development with medical and technology, but it also
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: has natural gas and mineral resources. So all of those
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: things come into play. And again Russia has re emerged
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: along with these nations. So yeah, dismissed by Barack Obama
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, Russia. He said, if you
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: remember the presidential election in twenty and twelve when Mitt
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Romney mentioned Russia as a major threat and Barack Obama
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: scoff and said, oh, come on, the Cold War's over.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Get rid of that old mentality because the Russian bear
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: has been defined. Well, just a handful of years later,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: the Russian bear came back as being perceived as a
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: major threat, and it will again be a threat to Israel.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And you can find Russia in Ezekiel thirty eight and
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: thirty nine. If you get our website christan Prophecy dot org,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: we have quite a number of videos and articles about that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And it depends on which version of the Bible you used.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: But rash can you be taken as a noun indicating
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a landmass or a particular area, which would be Russia
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the farthest north, or it can be an adjective as
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a prince or king. So it depends on which chief, Yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: which you're going to take. But when you look at
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the context, it clearly is pointing to an individual, a
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: person or an entity behind Yeah, and from the north,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: from the farthest north. And for years people say, oh,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Turkey's got to be where gog is going to come from.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Turkey's not the forest. You can actually, it's amazing. Look
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: at Jerusalem and go straight north and hit Moscow and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that's the farthest north. We're seeing that alignment too, So
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: even the current events are substantiating that rash should be
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: taken as a now not an adjective. And in the
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: interpretation of Ezekiel thirty.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Eight, yeah, we were there at Israel, and of course
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: you're going, I'm going just a few days and you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I have never felt unsafe in Israel. And even there
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: when we we did miss by forty five minutes the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: terrorist attack, we were in that exact spot where the
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: guy ran some people over, and there was an Italian
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: tourist that died. On the last day when we were there,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: we were in Tel Aviv and we were just burning
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: up some time before we went to the airport, and
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: we were there on the promenade, a whole bunch of music.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It was really fun. I was like, hey, let's go
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: walk along the beach as we have time. And again
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  Speaker 3: we came down, we met south and we headed up
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  Speaker 3: back and right after we left, a guy came right
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: up there where those people playing music. That's so we're like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what the Lord was with us? And uh.
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  Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is that there was an Italian
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: tourist that died. But it has been universally true that
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  Speaker 3: terrorists there they don't target tourists. They like our money too,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: they do, and there after israelis only Yeah, it just
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  Speaker 3: happened to me. When you're there at Tel Aviv, you
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  Speaker 3: don't know who's a tourist and who's not. There's just
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  Speaker 3: because Tel Aviv is pretty worldly. There was far too
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: much to see when you walk around the beach area,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: but you're like, wow. But when the attack happened, he
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: was just going after a big group of people, which
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: most likely he considered them to be Tel Aviv people,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: but there was tourists in the mix. But when we
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: see right now, let's kind of summarize, things are heating up,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: like really we we we're talking about a long time.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: But like never before with with the players has bla
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: on the north, with Syria, with even Russia coming in
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: having more of that. Iran certainly trying to bring weapons
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: in through Syria into into Lebanon, into the gold On Heights,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and then of course you have a Gaza, and even
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Jordan's trying to get there, trying to rope Jordan into
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: be involved. Iran is a major rule player.
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  Speaker 4: It is a major rule player. And I think we,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: meaning the West and specifically the American administration right now,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: has totally dropped the ball relative to Iran. So in
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: the last few years, we could talk about the Abraham
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  Speaker 4: Accords and Israel beginning to establish relationships with some of
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: the other Gulf states because they recognized Iran as being
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: a military threat to them, not only because they come
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: from a different branch of Islam, but because they're a
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: rising power.
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  Speaker 1: The United States took.
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  Speaker 4: Out Iraq, and really that was a balance because they
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: had great animosity with Iran. With Iraq gone kind of
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: ascended and now became the threat. But of late, the
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: other tragedy is because the Biden administration is totally dropping
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: the ball in that whole area of the world. Some
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: of those Middle Eastern states are now aligning with China,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: and China has become the power broker, even to create
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: a reproachment, if you will, between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
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  Speaker 4: So all this bode's very dangerous for Israel. Now we
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  Speaker 4: know Bible prophecy. Israel is not going to be wiped
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  Speaker 4: off the map in spite of what the Iatolas say,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: but it creates a tender box. And that's where Bible
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: prophecy comes into play, because again, when the chaos erupts
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: on the world, we think through the rapture, then Russia
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: and this war could happen.
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  Speaker 1: Before the rapture.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but we know that Russia will
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: seize the opportunity to gain power, and not only by
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: seizing plunder in Israel, but also by bringing into its
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: fold all of those Middle Eastern oil resources.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: One of things that's come up in the let's say
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: five years. You know, there's no doubt he's you get
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: thirty eight, Magog is the leader. They're Gog and Magog
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: is would you would say Russia is the leader of
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: this confederacy. But what I find out is if we
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: were to again put on the maybe the top ten superpowers,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: you know, America would Russia obviously probably would be in
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: there some ways, China. But now you have Russia buying
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: drones from Iran, and now they're getting ready to build
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: a factory near Moscow. So you're like, now Russia is
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: coming to the place where Iran is this superpower of
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: military industrial complex, and a superpower is buying from Iran.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Now you're like, there's the idea of them having thousands
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: and thousands of these unmanned Kamakazi type drones is extremely
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: important in developing really or seeing the scenario of the
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: way a place and the danger. I mean, we know
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: on the end, and it doesn't mean that Israel won't
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: suffer some major weakening.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: All those other terrorist groups are trying to get that
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: same technology, whether it's Heesblahamas. My son recently was flying
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: in that part of the world and they had to
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: deconflict because they're Russian aircraft and pilots all over the
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Middle East. Not well advertised. Our media is chasing after
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: all the wrong stories in my estimation, and again dropping
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: the ball on things that have significance not only to
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: our nation but to the world. And there's many threats
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: multiplying on the world scene.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Well we don't realize those under the scenes. Russia's and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: its death throws right now. It's lost forty percent of
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: its economy used to sell gasoline into Europe, which Israel
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: is picking up, and so that's in the jaw to
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: bring God down to They don't want rue Israel competing
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: with it. But the population of replacement in Russia is
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the worst in the world. In two generations, Russia will
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: barely have a popular there'll be a minor, minor power
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and that from all I've read. Putin knows this, and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: this big expansionist movement is to try to say Russia
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: from losing out its economy and its population. We know
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: from the gog Ma gog War is that Russia will
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: cease to be a superpower. Now potentially is one of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the four nations that's described in the Millennial Kingdom, so
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: it will survive in some respect. Matter of fact, as
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: a result of the God stepping in, only a ninth
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: of the attacking army coming from Russia in the Islamic world,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: so we see Russia, even though it's rising, will quickly
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: fall at the onset of the tribulation. The Islamic world
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: can't be a player. But what do we see as
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: a result of the God meg Gog war Only this
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: beast of this Harlot system of worship followed by a
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: beast worship in the So you can't have these competing religions.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So there's no Islam really coming into the So we're
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: seeing it. There'll be a massive geopolitical shift in the
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: world almost overnight.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: In the anti christ in the very end, leading to
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: the Battle Barmba again the kings of the.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: East, South and East, which is interesting because.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Parts of the world and so there's also a ticking
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: time bomb in China we just mentioned a moment ago
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: China's losing population. China realizes that if they don't act
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: in a fairly expeditious manner to reseize Taiwan and to
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: expand their power. They will actually contract in terms of
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: their population. So there's a lot of impulse, if you will,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: to move in a dramatic way, whether it's the Putins
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: of this world as Jimpins.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: And China's real estate market is about to collapse and
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: so is their economy. Most people don't realize that China
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: is only weeks away from bankruptcy, and it's it's no
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: And so you're hearing these guys knowing that their countries
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: are in deep dire despair, and now they're all, you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: banging their drums and rattling their sabers to make it
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: seem like they're big and get a little more attention,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: more money, more supplies. But in the geopolitical system of
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the tribulation, Russia and China really aren't players.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: It is an age old technique for a politician to
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: distract from crisis at home by creating a problem to
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: address abroad and create an enemy. That's what the despots
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: throughout the Middle East have done for years. Israel's the
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: great you know enemy, and so it distracts people from
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: the squalor they're living in at home, and that's that's
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: going to happen again, playing into some of those So
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: let's you.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Know, we're how do we end this on a hope,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: on a hopeful hopeful note. I mean that you guys
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: were preaching, you know, this weekend at a church. All
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: this stuff is serious. I mean, there's a lot of
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that are very serious in
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the sense of Ukraine, and they've died and and others,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: and a lot of trouble for Israel's coming. We know
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: that even though we know they survived, there's still trouble.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Well, what's the hope.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Here's one hope. I mean, you can think about the
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: prophet Jeremiah. We call him the weeping Prophet. He had
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: to witness horrors taking place in his nation. He had
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: to declare prophecies that were just horrific even to imagine,
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: and they took place, and he witnessed them cannibalism in
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: the streets. And so this man had much to be
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: sorrowful about, and so he wrote a book called Lamentations.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: But in Lamentations he says, in chapter three, verse twenty one,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: this I will return to my heart. Therefore I will
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: wait and hope. The loving kindness of Yahweh, the Lord
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: God indeed never cease, for his compassions never fail. They
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: are new every morning. Great is your faithfulness. Yahweh is
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: my portion, says my soul. Therefore I will wait for him.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I think that has a prophetic ring. Even as we
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: witness all these things taking place, all the convergence of signs,
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: and some of them are very tragic and very dramatic,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: yet we have hope. We have hope in the Lord God,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: who is promised. In this world you will have trouble.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: But I have overcome the world, and I'm going to
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: prepare a place for you, and I will come and
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: bring you to myself. And so we wait for him,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: and that gives us hope. And not just as Oprah
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: would say, hope and hope. Our hope is in the
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Blessed Hope, who is not a concept, He is a person.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: And we our hope is in Jesus Christ.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: So even the signs are not signs that we should
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: be distraught about. Like Adrian Rodgers says it's getting glory
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: or said it's getting gloriously dark. They point to the
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Lord's soon coming soon eminent.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: And I love Psalm too, because it gives us the
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: god's eye view of all the happenings of humanity. Why
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: do the nations rage? The people plot in vain, The
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: kings of their set themselves up, The rulers take counsel
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: together against the Lord and against his annoying anointed, saying,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: let us break their bonds and pieces and cast away
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: their cords from us. And here's this verse four, He
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: who sits in the heavens shall laugh. The Lord shall
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: hold them in derision. You know. It's like watching a
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: bunch of ants do a power play in the hive
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: while he stands outside of the ennhive and watches, you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: and he just has to shake it, and everything changes.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And that's what he's going to do with the tribulation.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: He's going to shake that. And then and what he
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: sets up his kingdom of peace and righteousness and justice,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: And we who are as saints will are promised to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: rule and reign under him. So failed, flawed human government
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: will be gone. The Lord Jesus Christ will rule from Jerusalem,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and we'll have a perfect government because the saints will reign.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: There won't be lawmakers, because we only have one lawmaker.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And oh monarch, right, yeah, it's the tribute or the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: sorry millennial kingdom is a monarch theocratic.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I love the last three verses of what you just read,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Nathan and saw them too, because it says so now,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: o kings, this is written to the kings, but really
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: all of us show insight and take warning. Oh judges
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: of the earth, serve yeahweh fear and rejoice, rejoice with trembling.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Kiss the sun.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: In other words, honor the sun lest he become angry
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: and you perish in the way. For his wrath, it says,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: may soon be kindled. We know it will soon be kindled.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: But how blessed are all who take refuge in Him and.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Who in the sun.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And so right there as a gospel message, and the
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: great hope that we have in spite of the wrath
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: that's about to be poured out.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Our hope is in him. If we've taken refuge in him.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: You think about just I was, I've been doing something
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: some other work in Theosalonians, and just the promise that
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: we have of being children of the light, that when
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: the day of the Lord arrives, it won't overtake us.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: We wouldn't be I mean there's a certain level of
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: it'll come at a time you do not know. But
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: then on the other hand, we are talking about it.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: If the Day of the Lord arrived tomorrow, we'd be like,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: we've been talking about this. So that gives us hope,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: That gives us comfort to know that we're watching all
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: of the infrastructure, all of the setting of the stage.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's such a great analogy that people have
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: used for a long time, is well, when does the
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: play start, and well, the play is the day of
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: the Lord. Well, you know, they need to get this
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: set up, and they need to get that set up,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: and all the different pieces and the puzzle pieces, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: think that most of them are on the stage. There's
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: a little fine tuning that needs to be done on
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: some of the little pieces that are aren't here yet,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: but I wouldn't expect them to be all fully advanced before.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Sometimes at the last minute, somebody's up there, wait one
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: last day, I got to get the Michael phone here,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: we got to get this little piece there. But we're
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: watching here, We are sitting out in the audience watching
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: all the stage pieces come to play, and that's extremely encouraging.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And when the last person who's meant to be saved,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: and the church age gets saved. The Lord's coming.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: First brother, yes, Father will say, go and get your bread.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah that then let's let's let's talk about that for
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: a minute. Two, because let's talk about that moment. Because
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: we're watching all the things. It's pointing to something. It's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: pointing to what I think is so personal as John fourteen.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think that, as we said at the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: beginning of our conversation today, we can look at the signs,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and the signs are exciting. Some of them are very concerning.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: People can tend to get discouraged or are anxious, shall
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: we say, and even Christians sometimes can hearken to that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: But we need to be talking about the hope that
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: is ours and looking forward to Jesus Christ. Because the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: signs themselves. It's like driving down the road and seeing billboards.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: You don't stop and just you know, gawk at the billboard. Hey,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: let's just stop right here. Let's just stare at this
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: billboard for a while. Let's have a picnic.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: The billboard is telling you the destination is coming ahead,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: and so all these signs are pointing to the Lord's coming,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: and so we should have courage, take courage, and have hope,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: and really we should be expressing that to our kids.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I've been on a kick for the last two or
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: three years because the Lord, i think, grabbed my heart
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: and said, are you expressing your frustration over the signs
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: that you witness even in your own society? Are you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: sharing the hope that you have in Christ with your
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: own children, your own grandchildren and others. And I've tried
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: to be very intentional about sharing the hope I have
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: even as we talk about the signs all the time,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: and there are a lot that give us great concern
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: for our nation around the world, even but we should
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: be talking about our hope much more.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think too often we can get to people like, oh,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: you Christians, all you guys are looking at speranti Christ,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: even some Christians, but even some brothers and sisters who
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: don't maybe they're not dispensation on maybe the replacement emless whatever,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: you know, partial predators. They're like, oh, yeah, you guys,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: all you guys do are looking for the Antichrist where
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for Christ. And you're like, you know what
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: that if that's true that's a fair criticism because but
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not looking for Antichrist.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking for the Antichrist.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: So I think it's it's sometimes it's a straw man.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: But there are those, I think there are those that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: could probably spend a little bit more time reading the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Book of Ephesians rather than revelation, you know, or whatever.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: You know. They're they're so prophecy oriented that there are
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: other areas of systematic theology in their minds are pretty
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: weak all the time, balance the.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Fruit of the spirit.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Even within our realm, some of the guys, you know,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: are we manifesting the fruit of the spirit and all
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: those different categories are we just fixated on, like I said,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: the sign posts.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bible prophecy is meant to give us hope.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: You can get bogged down in the darker aspects of it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: But that's a tiny, tiny little fraction at a time.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: The Millennial Kingdom a thousand years, the eternal state, I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: mean that goes on for a billion trillion, you know, timelessness.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: As we got we're entering the darkest part of the night,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: which I think the tribute when is it darkest just
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: before the dawn we're at midnight, the rapture's coming. We're
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: getting to that really dark time in human history, the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: day of the Lord. But after that it's the morning sun.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: And that's and that's what Christians or Christians aren't meant
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: to stop and look at the tribulation. They're meant to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: look at Christ's victory at the end of the tribulation.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And the setting up is case.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Let's let's go even a little earlier, because I think
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: there's such a parallel with John fourteen, where Jesus is,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: he's getting ready to leave and and he says, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: let not your hearts be trouble, right, you believe in God.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Believe also me.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: In my father's house are many mansions, right, And if
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: it wasn't wasn't that way, I would have told you.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: But I go to prepare place here, and this is
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: what I love that he says, so I can come
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: back and receive you to myself, so that where I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: am you can be also, And you're like, okay. First
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: of all, there's that personal love between us and the Savior,
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  Speaker 3: and I would say more importantly between him and us,
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  Speaker 3: that he's going to come and receive us directly to himself.
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  Speaker 3: But then he says, hey, because where I am, he's
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  Speaker 3: going away. He says, I'm going away, right, so where
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  Speaker 3: I am you can be also. So to me, it's
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  Speaker 3: such a good rapture passage where when I look forward
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  Speaker 3: in the sense of the hope, yeahs Jesus doing that
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  Speaker 3: at the end. But it's the blessed hope idea of
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  Speaker 3: Jesus is going to come and you know it's going
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  Speaker 3: to do. He's going to give me a hug, He's
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  Speaker 3: going to bring us in and we're going to go
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  Speaker 3: to the place where he is. That's what I'm looking.
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  Speaker 4: Even if Paul talked about the rapture and the classic
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  Speaker 4: passage in for Thessalonians, for he gave a perspective of
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  Speaker 4: how the dead.
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  Speaker 1: And Christ are going to rise first and we reliab.
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  Speaker 4: Will be and remain will be caught up. There's the
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  Speaker 4: rapture verse itself. But he says that we should comfort
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  Speaker 4: one another with these words. In other words, even the
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  Speaker 4: anticipation of being caught up to Jesus Christ should be
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  Speaker 4: a comfort. It should not be something that causes us
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  Speaker 4: to be worn down even as we witness the signs.
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  Speaker 4: But the signs themselves should bear evidence that we are
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  Speaker 4: living in what we call the season of the Lord return.
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  Speaker 4: So if you go to Hebrews chapter ten, the author
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  Speaker 4: says that we should recognize as a matter of fact.
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  Speaker 4: He says, when we see these things taking place, we
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  Speaker 4: should encourage each other, and all the more as we
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  Speaker 4: see the day drawing near.
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  Speaker 1: So he takes for granted that we would see the day.
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: This is a reason for celebration and for looking forward
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  Speaker 4: with great anticipation to Jesus Christ. So our hearts should overflow.
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  Speaker 4: Even the word courage we talked about. What is that
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  Speaker 4: root word. It's from the French core, which means heart.
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  Speaker 4: So as we encourage one another, it's what overflows from
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  Speaker 4: our heart. And that goes back to my comment. What
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  Speaker 4: overflows from my heart should not be anxiety or fear,
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  Speaker 4: or discouragement or despair. We've got enough of that in
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  Speaker 4: this world. It should be excitement and enthusiasm about our
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  Speaker 4: soon returning care.
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  Speaker 3: And we had we know that, you know here we are.
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  Speaker 3: You know I wasn't born in eighteen forty you know
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. But the Lord's like, hey, I've put all
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  Speaker 3: of us, so hear us three at least we're sitting
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  Speaker 3: here Zaga had you. I've had you born for this time.
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  Speaker 3: I saved you for this time, and I've equipped you
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  Speaker 3: for this time. So there's nothing for us to fear that.
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  Speaker 3: I tend to think that, you know, things are going
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  Speaker 3: to get more difficult for the church, the American Church
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  Speaker 3: before the rapture happens, which we will, it is, well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll join the what we've seen with our brothers and
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  Speaker 3: scissors in China and Pakistan all the others that they've
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  Speaker 3: existed for a long time. But in Kennedy, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that sticks out to me is
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  Speaker 3: going back is even that the Thessalonians. He says, and
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  Speaker 3: so we shall ever be with the Lord. And you're like,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute, so what the rapture will never be
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  Speaker 3: separated ever again? And I think that's the longing that
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  Speaker 3: we have is there is a I mean, the Lord
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  Speaker 3: is with us, you know, but not in that way
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  Speaker 3: that we want. But once the rapture happens and we're
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  Speaker 3: in his presence, it's Paul is just I think he's
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  Speaker 3: just that loving going. Not only is he going to
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  Speaker 3: receive us to himself, but we're never going to be
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  Speaker 3: separated from ever one wonderful one creature said it so
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  Speaker 3: well it kind of changed my mind about how I
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  Speaker 3: saw our purpose with the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: I always thought our purpose was have fellowship with the Lord,
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  Speaker 2: and the pastor says, we're meant to bask in the
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  Speaker 2: God's glory. That's the fellowship. And that's why we walk
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  Speaker 2: around with life feeling empty. Even as Christians. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: always this little feeling that there's something missing, that that
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  Speaker 2: this isn't right, that nothing is natural. It's because our
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  Speaker 2: natural state is to bask in the glory of God
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  Speaker 2: and enjoy His perfect fellowship, and until then we're not
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  Speaker 2: completed beings.
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  Speaker 3: Amen, gentlemen, Tim appreciate you guys being here. It's always
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