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Stop Blaming Feminism! Blame Men Instead! Part 3 | Rantzerker 199 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Coming to you live from deep within an icy radioactive wasteland. I think icy
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  would be a reasonable appraisal of the environmental conditions here, an icy radioactive wasteland.
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  We are the survivors of the alt right kech Apocalypse, the few,
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  the brave, the bitchy, once more, wading into battle against the saggy
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  lobsters zombie hordes with rant Zerker number one nine nine. Stop blaming feminism,
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  Blame men instead, Part three, because this is this is the gift that
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  never stops giving, blaming men for everything, because surely it will work this
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  time. I am Alison, and I am here with the indomitable Doge and
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  Karen, who needs no introduction, She needs no introduction. Yeah. Also,
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  also, the side walks and the rooftops are white right now where I
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  am. But we didn't get snow. We got ice fog, ice fog.
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  I wonder if other people know what look Brian is from Chicago. Did
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  you guys get ice fogs? Is that like when there's when there's when the
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  air is so cold that it just makes everything white but it doesn't. It's
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  not like, yeah, when the air is so cold when there's fog,
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  but it actually turns crystalling, so you walk through it and you can feel
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  it hitting your skin, right because it's like little tiny tiny bits of ice
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  floating around in the air, but it's not snow because they're not snowflakes.
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  Yeah, it's just sounds like he does understand the phenomenon after all the use
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  from Chicago. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, we are in the frosty,
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  radioactive wasteland bringing you more from the saggy zombie herds herds, I guess,
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  yeah, no, because I wouldn't call them a horde. I'd call
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  them a herd. Yeah, I've heard. Okay, so all right,
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  we're just reprising this individual, this feminist in case you guys forgot, she
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  was banned from Twitter for like what longer than I was. She was banned
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  way before I was right, and I'm sure she was banned right up until
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  Elon Musk started letting people back on. And her big crime was saying,
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  but men aren't women though. Yeah, yeah, well she gendered someone,
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  and I think crime was going up against the latest piety object of the single
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  woman party. There you go. You don't do that, even if you're
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  a woman, you don't do that. You're not allowed. You cannot question
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  the components of the identity that feminism has decided you should have. Well,
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  And what I find interesting about this is like these liberal feminists are more protective
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  of, you know, sort of their chosen children, they're chosen infant class.
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  Right then I was of my own children like way more protective. Like
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  when my kids were bullied, I was like, eh, you know,
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  that's just life. You know, you're going to have to figure out a
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  way to deal with it. You know, if it gets out of hand,
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  let me know, and I'll talk to the school. Right. But
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  you know, some times doing nothing or nothing much is the best thing to
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  do because the moment you do something right, unless you can squash that shit,
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  unless you can nuke it from orbit, it's just gonna get worse.
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  It's just gonna escalate. Right, And you know, they'd trip and fall,
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  they'd hurt themselves, they'd be crying. I'd be like, yeah,
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  just fucking get over yourself, Like in a hundred years, who's going to
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  care. Right, That's because you were you had children, but you knew
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  they were eventually going to be adults. M That's the thing that there's no
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  progression towards moral agency when it comes to the Single Woman parties piety objects.
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  Yeah, no, it's it's like they treat them like their own children,
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  but like children that they breastfeed till age nine and only only weaned because you
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  know, well, you know it was getting a little much. It's I
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  mean, the thing is that when you have a kid, right, you
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  are raising that kid, or even like a puppy, right, You're raising
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  that little creature to assume some form of adult responsibility. I mean with a
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  dog, I guess it's not humping every legy he sees or barking at everything
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  and chasing squirrels. Right, so you still might want to chase squirrels or
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  cats, especially cat not evil, not in my household, but regardless,
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  you're trying to raise them to have some form of impulse control and be able
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  to meet the world with skills and resources and resilience. This is not what's
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  happening when you look at the Single Woman Party. And for those of you
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  who just tuned in last time, we talked about how you can really only
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  divide politics into the politics of the Single Woman Party and everybody else, and
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  there's almost nobody else. The politics of the Single Woman Party are the politics
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  of the Mono party. But essentially the Democrats, the Republicans, the Conservatives,
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  the liberals, they're all part of it. And the real line is
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  whether or not you believe that the relationship between men and women is one of
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  men oppressing women, because that is that is the key way of selling singleness
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  as a lifestyle choice for women, which in turn creates this form of politics
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  around the instincts, the desires, the material wants of women as but not
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  just any women, just women without men. Yeah. No, I googled
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  Charles Fourier. I think it was like yesterday or the day before, because
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  I just wanted to get the year of where I I think it was eighteen
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  thirty seven, right when he coined the term feminism, the word feminine,
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  And like the little blurb, the first little blurb, it was like very
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  small paragraph, maybe two sentences. Right. He was a utopian socialist who
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  believed that marriage was a state of oppression of women. It was an institution
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  that oppressed women. And it's like it's right there, If marriage is an
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  institution that presses women, then men oppress women. Just the act of sharing
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  a house and a life with a man is a state of being oppressed.
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  Yep. And that is that is ground zero for the narrative of generating like
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  a more and more single women. Basically, it's it's it's the anti male
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  narrative that encourages women to remove men from their lives. And then when you
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  have a critical mass. And I looked at the stats, the women vote
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  less than men. So and but overall women vote more than men, so
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  the differences in single women. So single women are effectively a super majority of
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  voters, right, and they are the ones who now effact, who now
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  govern social policy in the West. So you have that party, and both
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  sides are part of that party. Because both sides, I mean conservatives might
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  might question some of the rationale or the logic of the decisions of the overall
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  party, but they don't question getting out of it is because they don't they
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  don't question the underlying premise, yes, and I don't. I don't think
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  that they think too hard about the underlying premise, Like they haven't actually picked
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  it down to you know, the idea that Okay, they don't pick men,
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  men must be evil because they don't pick a thing like we do,
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  Karen. They just don't know, I know, I know, they're just
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  like, well, marriage works, you know, and it's worked for like
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  ten thousand years, so like, might as well keep it going because it's
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  obviously good for society. And I'm looking at like, you know, the
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  stats on single motherhood and you know the children raised there under, and you
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  know those don't look too good. So you know, like marriage is you
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  know, marriage is a good institution, right, they don't actually look at
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  the foundational' Then in the next breath they'll say, oh, of course women
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  in the past were oppressed. Of course they were. And it's like,
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  are you fucking retarded? You basically like, okay, what were they oppressed
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  by? Marriage? Because the natural state of most women, right, the
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  sort of the well, not the natural state, but the life path of
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  most women, almost all women, was marriage, family formation, right,
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  get married, have kids. Okay, So if you're gonna say that women
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  were oppressed in the past, what were they oppressed by, well, the
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  biggest aspect of their life, of course, which was marriage. Okay,
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  what did what did feminism free them from ooh, the shackles of domesticity right
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  and allow them to go out and be wage slaves. And then you have
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  a critical mass of female voters who have never really taken responsibility for anything in
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  their life except themselves. And maybe and it's like, oh, women are
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  doing so much better. Young women are doing so much better than young men,
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  you know, Like they earn more than young men, you know,
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  and and they get more education than young men. Yeah, how much debt
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  do they have? How much do they have in investments? Right? When
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  you look at that, you see that men and women who are similar similarly
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  situated. Right, the men are generally, like, on average, way
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  ahead, you know, if they're similarly similarly situated educationally and with income.
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  Right, the men are way ahead in terms of having low debt and investments.
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  But on the other hand, you have the huge body of men who
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  are increasingly opting out entirely. And I don't mean like migtout. They don't
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  have a job, they don't really have any educational prospects. They're just they're
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  just sleeper cells. I guess maybe maybe sleeper cells are the wrong way to
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  putting it. Just the lying flat, completely flat. Well, look at
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  that's my two sons, I mean one of them. No, but they're
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  both gainfully employed, right, yes, yeah, but not at any kind
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  of high status thing. I mean one of them works prep and dish in
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  a freaking high end kitchen. You know, sure, but you know,
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  prep and dish, and the other one and he's twenty nine, right,
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  and he's happy there. He's like, ah, it pays my bills.
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  And the other one is like he's a department manager at a Walmart and he's
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  asked for his emotion because he's like, I don't get paid enough for this
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  shit. I'll take the thirty cent in our pay cut, thanks, and
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  go back to just being an associate. Yeah. But like, the overall
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  thing is that what we have now is our political landscape is defined by this
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  super party of single women, and the Conservatives have no viable way of opposing
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  it because their solutions are to blame men more. And unfortunately, when the
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  problem is that men are being underselled sold as an option as a lifestyle option
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  for women, blaming them makes the problem worse. You know, men stink.
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  Let's throw more garbage on them. That'll fix it. No, Yeah,
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  that's not going to fix it. And I think in a lot of
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  ways they're not at the place where they can really. In fact, it
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  doesn't just not fix it, it actually encourages the negative negative spiral for women
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  to discount men more and more and more. Yeah, well, the cascading
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  positive feedback loop. It's a cascading positive feedback loop. And until they fix
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  it, there's the only real politics that are going to have any clout are
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  the politics of the single woman party, you know. And the only way
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  you can fix it is to start opposing the anti male narratives. For one,
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  you might get some progress there. And you got to look at the
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  foundational anti male narratives, and the primary one is that men oppressed women anywhere
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  ever, for any reason, men oppressed women. No, it's absolutely one
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  false. Even in the most patriarchal societies, men are still on the forefront
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  protecting them, still going out and taking the risks to provide for women.
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  You can't discount that fact. You can't. And yet we do, and
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  we just insist on this notion. And as long as we insist on the
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  notion that men oppress women, we will be living in the politics of the
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  the the the the monolithic single woman party. That's it. This is this,
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  that's your this is our choice. Now we either fix that and we
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  we start opposing these anti male narratives and fix the relationship between the genders on
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  a fundamental level. And I know that lots of people are listening to this
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  and the like that's impossible. Well, it will be fixed. It will
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  either be fixed by us hitting the wall like Argentina did, or it will
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  which is gonna be pretty pretty intense to go through and witness, or it
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  will be fixed by figuring out how to capture single women's piety instinct and return
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  it back to men and family. Yeah, somehow, you know, somehow,
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  But that's the only way to fix it. And like I said,
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  you cannot fix it by blaming men because that just makes it worse. And
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  you can't fix it by embracing feminist narratives like like the like this idea that
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  men are some kind of unique sexual danger to women relative to what because they
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  certainly are relative, aren't relative to other women? You see the rates of
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  rape in female prisons like this. The women sexually predate on other women quite
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  a bit, and proportionately when they're in relationships. The rate of domestic violence
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  and sexual assault skyrockets when women are in relationships with other women. So what
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  are you comparing men to They're better for women than women are statistically, you
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  know so. But the thing is that conservatives buy into this kind of narrative
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  that men are a sexual danger. And yeah, I know, sometimes it's
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  convenient when you're trying to implicate immigrants, which I mean is legitimate, because
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  immigrants often come from, especially if they're wartime refugees, they often come from
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  situations where they're dealing they're dealing with your trauma, and they're gonna express that,
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  right. But then also, like you know, they do this for
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  trans women. This is something that they but they're buying into again one of
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  the foundational pillars of the single woman party, which is that men are a
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  sexual threat to women. Yeah, that they oppress women, and and even
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  worse, that they oppress women by being a sexual threat to women. It's
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  like, yeah, yeah, that's well, okay, you're you're gonna perpetuate
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  your own, your own loss, because this is where that the single like
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  I don't want to say democrat, because that's this is where the current politics,
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  the power of the current politics is coming from the sheer mass of single
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  female voter voters the end. Okay, and if you aren't, if you
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  aren't opposing the production of more single female voters by questioning the anti male narratives
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  that are making them choose. I mean, for the most part throughout human
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  history, women weren't hit on the head with a bat and dragged back to
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  a man's cave. That wasn't the typical courtship. For most of human history,
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  women have chosen to get married, especially in Christian history, because the
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  Church was very much about consent to marriage, right, So women were choosing,
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  were choosing, They're choosing all the way up into the eighties and nineties
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  when they sort of stopped, and then for some reason they stopped choosing.
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  Why did men change that much? No, if anything, they got even
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  more conciliatory towards these narratives of female empowerment, and then women stopped choosing them.
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  Well, what happened? Why did this mess start? There has never
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  been compulsory marriage in Christian nations, at least not to any great degree.
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  Do people realize that there's no compulsory heterosexuality in a Christian nation. So that
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  means that for the last two millennia, and even in Rome, like with
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  the ancient Rome, there wasn't You didn't hit a woman over the head and
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  drag her back to your villa, right, unless you were into that.
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  Okay, so this is there is no compulsory matrimony. There's no compulsory heterosexuality
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  in all of these other cultures that made it work, so it was voluntary.
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  Somehow those cultures sold women on being married voluntarily that they wanted to be.
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  And maybe part of the problem now is that we are doing the reverse,
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  and we're doing the reverse because we got now a powerful political entity that
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  relies on single women and the production of single women to keep its relevance and
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  it's influence and power. And maybe now we see the genesis of why men's
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  rights activists were the first into the chasm. And we are apparently on watch
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  lists by the Department of Homeland Security because you know, I mean ISIS and
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  other terrorists, maybe white supremacist terrorists, if there are any, you know,
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  all of all of why I'm feeling here, Okay, all of those,
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  all of those people, all of those those those heavily you know,
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  armed men and some women who are interested in killing American citizens. Well,
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  all they're gonna do is just make American citizens less safe and target them,
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  right, That's all they're gonna do. Homeland Security doesn't give a fuck about
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  that. What they're worried about is anything that threatens their power base. And
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  we're completely non violent. All we do is chatter amongst ourselves. And yet
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  what we're saying is a genuine threat to their power base, because it's genuinely
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  calling out all of those narratives that lead women to choose not to be with
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  men, to think that other women are a better choice when they are patently
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  not. Okay, I'm gonna get off my soapbox. We should probably get
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  to the women I know. Are you gonna watch the video? Yeah?
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  Sorry, I was. I was just checking Facebook because I but I saw
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  a complaint. I didn't expect my phone to start playing it, so that's
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  why apologize for that. But yeah, it seems to be running fine.
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  All right, we're gonna get it to the video. Yes, Should I
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  do the things? Uh? Yeah, go ahead, do the things?
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  All right. So I opened up the fundraiser a bit early this month,
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  feed Thebadger dot com slash support. I'm just doing a little a smaller one,
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  just because we've unfortunately had a few uh more major patrons drop and it's
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  not necessarily the economic situation. They just to have been dealing with personal circumstances
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  is. But I'm going to have to probably increase the fundraiser and I want
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  to give you guys a little bit of time maybe to make up the difference
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  in the in the beginning. So feed the Badger dot com slash reports very
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  message, feed the Badger dot com slash just the tip. Tell us we're
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  not screaming into the void, and uh, well, obviously we're not,
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  because at least the Homeland Security is listening to us. Hello. Yeah,
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  No, I used some keywords in my h on the phone with my husband
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  earlier today and and then and he was like, you need to stop saying
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  those things, and and I was like, what like saying I'm a terrorist
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  threat? And then then he's like stop it. You don't need to invite
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  it. And I'm like, oh shit, there's a black suv pulling up
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  in front of the house. And he's like, stop that. Stop joking
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  about it. You know. It's it's interesting because it does say something.
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  Yeah, we are our channels in particular, the manosphere is the first into
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  the chasm, and we are heavily apparently heavily targeted. Why why would a
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  small humans rights movement that's only interested in bringing attention to the problems men face,
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  why would we be getting it in the face. Oh oh, because
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  because of Elliott Roger and Alec Manassian. Really yeah, two incidents that were
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  like years apart in two different countries. That's why we didn't even identify as
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  men's rights activities. I know. And it's but okay, they were men's
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  rights adjacent, not even know. Yeah, I mean you can say that
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  because they were men, right, they were in cells. No, it's
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  more like men's rights adjacent because okay, these two people are convenient to implicating
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  you. So we're just gonna make the association. Okay, continue, Brian,
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  Sorry, let's get the video. All right, we're gonna play the
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  video. Oh, I got a super chowd I might as well just read
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  it now. So got a super child from Richard Beierre because it's five dollars
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  and says just when did wine start being sold? I what the box package
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  versus only in bottles? Again, perhaps that corresponds to the rise of women
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  pursuing the single lifestyle joke about Okay, let me just let me just see
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  this let me just let me know when when did when did they start selling
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  wine in boxes rather than just in bottles? Yeah, I know it's written,
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  Yeah, okay, Richard, Richard, I only buy boxes, you
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  know why bottles never? No, wait, we we remember I would be
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  there and you'd have barefoot. That was years ago, though, so maybe
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  it's changed. That was that was when we were like traveling or whatever or
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  you know, like, but no, I hate buying bottles, right,
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  I hate buying bottles because I'm a responsible recycler. I take my bottles and
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  cans and my wine boxes back to the depot, right, I get my
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  little deposit back, and you know, a cardboard box with an empty plastic
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  you know, bladder in it is a lot easier to carry than a ton
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  of glass bottles, Okay. And one of these boxes contains like what four
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  and a half four and two thirds bottles of wine, and it's cheaper,
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  right, teakes up less space, right, it has less energy going And
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  I'm a responsible environmentalist too, less energy to produce the packaging, right,
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  stays fresh, you know, like I'm just like no, no, okay,
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  So wine box, which was a Canadian invention, by the way,
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  if I believe, if I am not wrong, is a responsible choice of
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  people who are fiscally responsible, right, who are willing to go get their
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  deposit back from the bottle depot? Right? Who's environmentally responsible? Right,
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  who's willing to you know, look less glamorous, right while drinking from the
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  box rather than the bottle, and then also uh, fiscally responsible in terms
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  of you know, paying less per unit. Okay, so it's a possibly
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  choice. Okay, So so here's here is the argument for the box versus
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  the bottle. Maybe just look at overall wine sales to see right now or
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  when women started to drink more alcohol than men? If they do. I
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  don't think they do, but they might now anyway, let's let's actually get
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  to the video. Yeah, although I do how are you how are you
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  guys computers doing? You're not getting is it overheating or anything? Before?
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  My computer is is chugging along just fine. I do want to I do
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  want to give one thank you, and then we have to go to the
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  video because there are people out there who are like, we hate you because
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  you are not on topic. I have no idea why they would do that.
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  It's a little bit of shade there Okay, thank you to Richard Bierre.
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  He opens up the fundraiser with one hundred dollars. Very much appreciated,
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  and once again even for the insult to the box wine. Okay, once
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  again, if you want to help out, it's at feedbadger dot com slash
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  support. It's just sort of a pre green friend raiser that I'm putting on.
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  Badger dot com slash just a tip. Tell us we're not screaming into the
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  void. Tell us that our only and isn't homeland security, it's also you.
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  Okay, all right, So the last time we did this, Maria
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  mcclennan here was just talking about how if it doesn't benefit women, it's not
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  feminism, and now she's going to explain the opposite of that, I think,
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  so let's go. Okay. So basically she she has just said the
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  entire quiet part out loud, which is that feminism is only about benefiting women,
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  you know, like, but also that there is feminism that doesn't.
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  And I would honestly say that the vast majority of what we call feminism is
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  in the does not benefit women. Yes, but it thinks it does well.
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  It doesn't. It thinks it does. Yes, okay, it all
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  thinks it does well. Okay, itself it sells itself benefiting women. Actually,
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  I have read a paper from like the eight I think the nineteen eighties,
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  in which feminists were discussing whether or not to put their influence behind an
• 28:15
  initiative in sexual violence, like a therapeutic intervention initiative, and they were saying,
• 28:22
  well, this initiative has the potential to actually make women safer and less
• 28:29
  likely to be victims of sexual violence. However, it contradicts our ideological focus
• 28:37
  and narrative, Okay, And they're putting it out there and they're saying,
• 28:42
  let us discuss which one we should promote. And guess which one they ended
• 28:48
  up promoting. Oh, isn't the one that protected women. It was the
• 28:52
  one that protected feminism. So from the very beginning, if you're part of
• 28:56
  a movement that's willing to put women at risk of domestic violence, sexual violence,
• 29:03
  to homicide protect your vision, you are not pro woman. And she's
• 29:12
  realizing this. Of course, part of the problem here is that she doesn't
• 29:18
  believe that trans women are women, whereas the feminists who promote trans women do
• 29:22
  believe they're women, or at least believe that they're going to pretend they're women
• 29:26
  because now they're their piety object. But you know that this is exactly what
• 29:32
  I have seen, is that when there was a choice between helping women and
• 29:37
  helping feminism, feminists chose feminism. And then they have the audacity because i'man
• 29:42
  in arguments with feminists on Twitter lately, they're they're all like, thank feminism,
• 29:48
  you know, like, chink your hive, make me a ham sandwich.
• 30:00
  The audio for that again because they didn't hear it the first time,
• 30:02
  so I'm gonna play it again real quick. I would also say that any
• 30:07
  campaign or any idea that is put into practice who's foreseeable consequences to make things
• 30:14
  worse for women and girls is an anti feminist campaign, regardless of whether those
• 30:18
  engaged in that campaign call themselves feminists or not. All Right, you didn't
• 30:25
  hear that the people in the chat because the audio track for that in this
• 30:30
  scene wasn't on, so I turned it on. So it's good. Now,
• 30:34
  it's okay, okay, good. Sorry for the silence there, guys.
• 30:37
  Yeah, no, And it is it is kind of like that that
• 30:41
  issue that they had in Australia, where it's like or no in Sweden,
• 30:45
  right, in Sweden where they got rid of affirmative action because it started this
• 30:52
  university started discriminating in favor of men because like, there weren't enough men.
• 30:59
  They're like, women were overwhelmingly overrepresented in university enrollment and in a lot of
• 31:04
  the various programs, and so they started basically giving men a leg up to
• 31:12
  enter into their into programs that were female dominated. And then the government said,
• 31:18
  no, no, no, that's not what affirmative action is for.
• 31:22
  Affirmative action is for helping women, not for helping men. It's for helping
• 31:29
  it's not for slamming the door of opportunity in the face of capable and brilliant
• 31:34
  young women. Right, so they just outlawed affirmative action. Good grief,
• 31:42
  Yeah, all right, let's go all right, let's listen some more.
• 31:48
  She goes a little bit more into this argument. And regardless of whether they
• 31:53
  have contributed to genuine feminist campaigns or not, an example of an idea whose
• 32:00
  consequence is to make things worse for women and girls is obviously the idea that
• 32:06
  a man can be a woman, and that if a man declares himself to
• 32:09
  be a woman, then he should be accepted as one and be able to
• 32:14
  access women sex based rights and protections. This whoa whoa sex based rights and
• 32:21
  protections. Boy, we're just really saying the quiet part out loud today,
• 32:27
  aren't we. Yeah? No, women have special rights. You see,
• 32:34
  they really do well as they do like that in law, a man can't
• 32:38
  separate consent to parenthood to consent or sorry, consent to sex to consent to
• 32:45
  parenthood. A man can't separate ejaculation from parenthood. So even if a man
• 32:52
  is raped, he's still obligated to the to the restrictions and expectations of parents
• 33:00
  into it. Like, there's no like. Men don't have reproductive rights period.
• 33:06
  It's why feminists always have to be like, well, you know what
• 33:09
  if we what if we shot men's balls to the moon? Well, what
• 33:14
  would they think of it? Then? Because they always have to go with
• 33:17
  these ridiculous assertions about well what if we did this to men? What if
• 33:23
  we castrated them? What if we best sectimize them? What if we remove
• 33:28
  their ability to reproduce entirely? You know why, because they can't use a
• 33:32
  one to one comparison between men's lack of reproductive rights and women's presence of reproductive
• 33:38
  rights. Does anybody does anybody remember that Democrat politician who who she introduced a
• 33:46
  bill that would that would criminalize masturbation male masturbation, because uhh, that would
• 33:58
  be that's like abortion. It's aquivalent to abortion, right, if you're just
• 34:02
  spilling your seed willy nilly into a sock. Right. I remember it was
• 34:07
  a feminist politician that was trying to like do a dunk on the Yeah,
• 34:13
  like yeah, Mike drop and then and then I'm like what what, like,
• 34:21
  how are the two comparable? Oh? Well, we should we should
• 34:24
  make a criminal for a woman to ever have a period, because every period
• 34:30
  is an egg that just gets flushed down the toilet. You know. Yeah,
• 34:37
  Well, like I said, they and they can't do the one to
• 34:39
  one comparison because there is no one to one comparison. Men have no reproductive
• 34:45
  rights, even if they're raped, they have no right whatsoever, and that
• 34:49
  is in law. So they feminists have to go to these ridiculous examples to
• 34:54
  try to pretend like they're in any way comparable, and then they go bam,
• 35:00
  you know, yeah, they're like well and walk away, and it's
• 35:04
  like, no, what if we put men in rape camps and made it
• 35:07
  so that women could check them out like library books. Wouldn't that be the
• 35:12
  same as making abortion illegal? Yeah? I know, Like what the fuck?
• 35:20
  You can't They can't even say, well, what if we took away
• 35:22
  men's right to separate parent who from from from consent to sex because they don't
• 35:27
  have one? Yeah? Like literally they could do that if men had that
• 35:30
  right. Yeah, they could just be like but what what? Well,
• 35:35
  I mean, if we are gonna not have abortion, then we should take
• 35:37
  away men's legal right to absolve themselves of financial responsibility. Well, Harper Dark,
• 35:43
  we don't have it, do I? Yeah? Okay, you want
• 35:47
  to watch some more? Yeah? A blaming feminists fool. The feminists are
• 35:54
  the ones who first argue that men and women are basically the same, aside
• 35:59
  from me less anatomical differences. They are the ones who declared that most sex
• 36:04
  differences are social constructs. Sound familiar, Yes, I don't think read.
• 36:10
  I was just going to tell him that he hasn't read the right feminists or
• 36:15
  something. Oh no, no, I've read most of the feminists, and
• 36:19
  you know, to some degree or another, and they Matt Walsh is one
• 36:24
  hundred percent correct on this like this, this was the can of worms that
• 36:29
  they opened. Yep. And who I'm going to ask you something? Which
• 36:34
  group kept the kept this kept this particular like refuse to budget from this,
• 36:40
  from pointing the finger and saying no, it was you. It was you
• 36:45
  feminists who did this. That was you, you know, And in particular
• 36:49
  it was the radical feminists because the the crystals and bead curtain feminists are like,
• 36:53
  oh, yeah, women are oppressed. That's why men should be extra
• 37:00
  care, you know, extra nice to us, you know, that kind
• 37:01
  of thing. They weren't like, oh, oh, there's no sex difference,
• 37:06
  is therefore blah blah blah. No, that was the radical feminists that
• 37:08
  because they want not just their hatred a justification for their absolute hatred of men
• 37:14
  by saying, well, no, women's restrictions were all just arbitrary, there's
• 37:17
  nothing biological, but also because they wanted to convince themselves that a feminist a
• 37:22
  rat utopia was even possible, yes, like that, that their delusion and
• 37:29
  their anger and their hatred drove them to this. And we us, we
• 37:36
  said, no, you did this. You did It's not the trans women.
• 37:40
  I'm pretty sure most trans women just want to be left the hell alone
• 37:45
  and probably don't want to be dragged into these politics. Right you radical feminists,
• 37:51
  you guys did this. You did it, And it was us who
• 37:54
  kept that line because there were conservative commentators, There were even men's rights commodators,
• 38:01
  a red pill commedators wanted to point the finger at trans women, and
• 38:07
  they were not empowered by that. They were not the source of this,
• 38:13
  certainly, not the ones who genuinely have dysmorphia. They are not the They
• 38:19
  were the product of it. Well, I mean, not the ones that
• 38:22
  would have had gender dysmorphia, even in cultures that men aren't didn't, you
• 38:25
  know, yeah, aren't treated like lepers, you know. They they are
• 38:31
  not the source of this. Some of them may be the symptom, and
• 38:37
  some of them may be now exploiting it, but they aren't the source of
• 38:42
  it. Radical feminists made this monster, and now they want to deny that,
• 38:47
  Like radical feminists like her made this monster, and now they want to
• 38:51
  deny it now, Like doctor Frankenstein, they're like, I don't know,
• 38:54
  hiding somewhere, pretending like their monster isn't rampaging. Okay, all I'm gonna
• 39:02
  play some more, let's hear her response. At any feminist theory, it
• 39:07
  is a pretty fundamental feminist argument that it is women's ability to bear children that
• 39:15
  explains why historically men have wanted to own and control women and why laws.
• 39:22
  Yeah, he didn't, he didn't say that feminists claim there are no biological
• 39:32
  differences. He literally said that feminists claim that other than the reproductive stuff,
• 39:43
  right, the radical feminists have argued that men and women are no different,
• 39:51
  right, other than the reproductive stuff. And she's just confirming what he's saying,
• 39:55
  Like he's she's not saying yeah, but she's saying yeah and right,
• 40:01
  and men oppress women and it's because of women's biological differences that men oppress women,
• 40:10
  right, And she's she's gonna argue, right that this is this is
• 40:16
  the difference between men and women, is that men oppress women. And she
• 40:22
  can't say that's biological, right, She's just gonna say, oh, it's
• 40:29
  it's rooted in biology because women have babies and men wanted to control that.
• 40:37
  Right. But if not for that, men and women would have the exact
• 40:42
  same outcomes, right, And it's just like no, no, Like you're
• 40:47
  you're literally confirming what he's saying, Ugh, well, sorry, I didn't
• 40:52
  articulate that very well. But no, no, I get I get where
• 40:54
  you're coming from. So basically, what she's saying is that the reason why
• 41:00
  men oppressed women was because they have babies. Right, So if if,
• 41:06
  how does she think society would have been structured if men didn't want to oppress
• 41:10
  women for having babies, like if men didn't want to like is there is
• 41:15
  there some kind of difference here? Like? Okay, So let's imagine human
• 41:20
  history without men supposedly wanting to oppress women. Would women somehow be the ones
• 41:28
  going out and doing war? Right? Would women be the ones going out
• 41:34
  hunting the mammoth, going out on and finding going out across the cape of
• 41:37
  you know, the Horn of Africa to find ice route, you know,
• 41:42
  Like, would women be the ones doing this? Or would women still be
• 41:45
  the ones staying at home and going through the process of gestation, lactation,
• 41:50
  and early childcare while doing jobs that were available to them that didn't tax them
• 41:57
  so much that they couldn't take care of their kids, Like would there be
• 42:00
  any difference? Would there be any difference in history if you took out this
• 42:07
  idea of male oppression. See, this is the thing. She wants to
• 42:12
  have her cake and eat it too. She wants the idea of men still
• 42:15
  oppressing women and women still defined by their biology, because if women are defined
• 42:22
  by their biology, the reason why they were staying home and taking care of
• 42:27
  kids, at least young kids was because of their biology, which means,
• 42:32
  by definition, if women have to stay home because of their biology or stay
• 42:37
  in a secluded safe space, and yes, they do because female or female
• 42:43
  humans are the least self reliant females on the planet. Like I've used this
• 42:51
  analogy before, this example before, if human females were like female tigers,
• 42:57
  they would be able to hunt bin laden, nine months pregnant, squat in
• 43:01
  a freaking alley, give birth, and continue to hunt like after like maybe
• 43:07
  a couple of hours. You know, my my grandma did that. According
• 43:09
  to my mother, your grandmother did that. My grandma had nine children,
• 43:14
  and she would it got to the point where she was just stepping out of
• 43:16
  the room and just like had a baby and came back like it was just
• 43:21
  so she did. My mom told me that I thought it was like,
• 43:25
  man, my grandparents were tough motherfuckers. Man. My grandfather was he get
• 43:30
  into knife fights. I mean, like, I'm I feel this a week
• 43:36
  compared to my grand You guys probably all have tough ass grandparents. Yeah.
• 43:40
  Well yeah, like one of my great grandparents fought in World War Two.
• 43:45
  Yeah, and my grandfather has like a necklace of ears, yeah or something.
• 43:51
  Well, well, he was a pilot, so it was a bit
• 43:53
  different, different kind of courage, a little no less. Oh that's I
• 43:58
  mean, flying was kind of new and also dangerous, and World War Two
• 44:01
  it wasn't as new, but it was still very dangerous. Yeah. But
• 44:04
  my overall point is if we take out the idea that men literally, like
• 44:09
  this woman literally says, oh yeah, men just wanted they wanted to press
• 44:14
  women and treat them like proper. If we took that out, would anything
• 44:16
  have been different? No, because it wasn't men oppressing women that had women
• 44:22
  staying at home. And incidentally, she is so dismissive of women's work throughout
• 44:29
  history. Oh yeah, like when you I'm in I'm researching the history of
• 44:34
  fabric. There's a reason why women were associated with magic, and that reason
• 44:39
  is because they created something that is akin to creating water and creating air.
• 44:45
  They created thread, right, and we don't understand that power. But the
• 44:52
  idea that our our ancestors would hold with women, like literally Vikings thought women
• 45:00
  controlled men's fate in a very literal sense and that had power and magic that
• 45:05
  men couldn't understand in a very literal sense. And part of the reason why
• 45:09
  is because they could make thread. And there's a certain biological component to that
• 45:14
  as well. Women have smaller fingers, they probably they have a little bit
• 45:20
  more i think fine motor control, just because of the size of their fingers
• 45:25
  and the amount of nerve endings per square inch, right, So there's just
• 45:30
  some functional differences that allow them to do something like spinning yarn, which is
• 45:34
  actually a very difficult skill to master. Like there were women like in Italy
• 45:40
  during the sixteen hundreds who earn more than most men simply because they could oversee
• 45:50
  the production of silk thread, right, And it's because of that kind of
• 45:53
  fine motor skill. And this is something that gave women power over over something
• 46:04
  that we don't understand this today because fabric is so cheap and it's so easy
• 46:09
  to get, But in the past it used to be an incredible a status
• 46:15
  symbol. So women were constructing status and not just status. They were constructing
• 46:22
  histories through their embroidery and through their loom work, through the tapestries. They
• 46:29
  were deciding who who would end up being remembered, right, and this was
• 46:34
  this is an incredible power. Yeah. And you look at you look at
• 46:39
  surnames, right, surnames anything that ends in the in the suffolx stir st
• 46:45
  er, that's female. So webster, female weaver, Baxter, female baker,
• 46:54
  brewster, female brewer. Right. So those were all un married women
• 47:00
  who were master weaver as master bakers and master brewers. Yeah, you had
• 47:06
  kids, and ye, their kids inherited their surnames. And you know why
• 47:10
  men women had got married because it's just easier. Yeah, because men are
• 47:15
  worth sharing your life with. It's as simple as that. Okay. And
• 47:22
  all of this shit about oh women were oppressed in the past denies the amount
• 47:27
  of power and influence that women did have. And they did not need men's
• 47:30
  rules to have, right, They made their own frickin' rules. If you
• 47:36
  wanted to be a king who was known far and wide, well, you
• 47:39
  had to actually do deeds that women thought were worthy of enshrinement in their tapestries
• 47:45
  and in their stories. And you know, that's where this whole idea of
• 47:49
  women making fate came from, right, And you are ignoring all of that.
• 47:55
  And women managed to do that while raising children. Yeah, they had
• 48:00
  an incredibly important role while raising children. And yes, men had also a
• 48:05
  very important role, but it had nothing to do with oppression. There's no
• 48:08
  evidence that women's role would have changed it all if you remove the concept of
• 48:13
  oppression from history, because the real answer is that it was biology, not
• 48:17
  just in terms of women's limitations, but also in terms of their unique strengths.
• 48:23
  Their role was a result of those two things, just like men's roles
• 48:28
  a result of their limitations and their unique strengths. That's it. But you
• 48:32
  want to have oppression while also appealing to biology because you hate men and you
• 48:39
  just hate trans women. Let's be honest, Well, because they have pains.
• 48:45
  She hates them because she thinks of them as men. It's not because
• 48:49
  they're trans women. Well, at some point Aaron Meyer made ages ago was
• 48:52
  like in some big magazine article right where you know, she said, yeah,
• 48:59
  no, that the the violence against trans women is not misogyny. It's
• 49:05
  not trans misogyny, it's it's actually mis injury. Yes, right, because
• 49:08
  why are these men who get the crying game surprise you know? Uh at
• 49:17
  in the bedroom? Why are they exploding and freaking out? Well, it's
• 49:22
  because it's not because they see you as a woman. It's because they see
• 49:27
  you as a man. Yes, okay, I got a super chow and
• 49:31
  a rumble ramp. But go ahead. Do you see how she's trying to
• 49:36
  have it both ways now? Yes, yes, she's trying to say but
• 49:39
  but boology. Uh, and women's role as a result of but but but
• 49:44
  ology, but also oppression? Which is it? Yeah? No, whoa
• 49:49
  because men oppressed women because of women's biology. But again, or maybe men
• 49:54
  just partnered with women to help them through their biolog logical and ask yourself,
• 50:04
  would it have been any different if men supposedly weren't oppressing women? Well if
• 50:08
  if women, if women didn't marry and men didn't marry, right, like,
• 50:14
  if if marriage didn't exist, would history have been any different? Yes?
• 50:20
  Yeah, no, wouldn't have been here she is saying living in a
• 50:23
  nice house with like jip rock walls, and she's saying that the result of
• 50:31
  history, like women's role in history is a result of oppression. Yeah,
• 50:36
  I know, and it's not it's not. It's of course it's not.
• 50:38
  It's a result of a partnership between men and women that acknowledge biological realities,
• 50:44
  including psychological realities that have evolved over time, like like the male the male
• 50:51
  hormone cycle that drives him out of the home right and just perfect timing and
• 50:58
  brings him home with a with a freshly You're not quite getting what I'm saying,
• 51:01
  though, Yeah, I know, I know the male hormonal cycle the
• 51:05
  female hormonal cycle actually match very well and very complimentary. But what I'm saying
• 51:08
  is there would be no difference. Well, there would be no difference.
• 51:15
  No, there would be no no listen, listen, there would be no
• 51:16
  difference, like if if men had not approached women with the eye to oppress
• 51:23
  them, there would be no difference. Do you know what I'm getting it?
• 51:30
  Except they're saying she's saying that the state of marriage in and of itself
• 51:34
  is is oppression, right, or that men did that because they wanted to
• 51:37
  control women's fertility, in women's reproduction and the products of their life. I'm
• 51:42
  saying that there's no difference. There would be no difference, like if you
• 51:46
  say there would be a difference because everything would be a lot worse for women.
• 51:52
  Well no, because there men don't approach women with an eye to oppression.
• 51:55
  This is their ridiculous assumption. What she's saying is that biological roles would
• 52:01
  be somehow different. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 52:07
  Sex roles would not be different, No, they might kind would just
• 52:09
  be no pair bonding and no partnership in raising families, and so that didn't
• 52:15
  come as a result, and the women would suffer that didn't come as a
• 52:19
  result of women. Men's oppression of women is what I'm getting. She's saying.
• 52:22
  Okay, and this is really critical to pin down. I know people
• 52:24
  are getting annoyed, but this is something that you need to hash out because
• 52:28
  there's going to be something good at the end of this, which is going
• 52:30
  to be a very succinct way of nailing this woman to her bullshit. All
• 52:36
  Right, She's saying that men oppressing women throughout history is why we have the
• 52:45
  situation that we do. This is the logical conclusion of what she's saying.
• 52:51
  So somehow we would have had something else if men didn't oppress women. And
• 52:55
  what I'm saying is that's not the case. And she hasn't even contended with
• 53:01
  this. How much of history is a result of men oppressing women because they
• 53:07
  can give birth? And how much of history as a result of the restrictions
• 53:10
  on women because they do give birth. She probably has never even contended with
• 53:15
  that question. Then the answer is there's nothing. Everything is a result of
• 53:21
  women's limitations biologically and their strengths biologically, and none of it you need,
• 53:28
  nothing changes if you remove men's this idea that men oppress women. So I'm
• 53:31
  not saying that nothing changes if you remove marriage, Karen, I'm saying nothing
• 53:37
  changes if you remove this idea, this implication that men oppressed women. Oh
• 53:42
  yeah, okay, if the accusation didn't exist, the sex still would have
• 53:45
  happened. Yeah, everything would have happened, whether or not, regardless of
• 53:52
  the intentions of men. The intentions of men. So what she's saying is
• 53:58
  that the intentions of men are somehow more important. So once again we're appealing
• 54:02
  to this idea of oppression, that men inflicted something on women are more important
• 54:09
  than women's biology. Somehow, none of this is defined. It's all nebulous.
• 54:15
  Because she just wants to have her cake and eat it too. She
• 54:17
  wants she wants with womanhood to be biological to exclude trans women, but also
• 54:23
  oppression to continue to inflict to justify her hatred of men. Well, okay,
• 54:30
  you know, like the the the biological differences. Okay, so oh
• 54:36
  god, now I've lost it. Okay, let's listen to a bit more.
• 54:39
  Maybe, Well, well, I got, I got, I got
• 54:42
  a super chow and a rumble rant I should read before because they'll disappear otherwise.
• 54:46
  So I got a super chow from anonymous for five dollars, and he
• 54:52
  says girls have special protection from general mutilation. Would love to see the trans
• 54:57
  movement hijack FGM and s that mutilating a boy who might be trans could be
• 55:02
  a victim of FGM. But I doubt that I'll, i'll it'll happen,
• 55:07
  considering that a lot of them want to mutilate themselves. I wouldn't really want
• 55:13
  that change to happen that way. Those should not be the circumstances for that.
• 55:17
  Sometimes I think people want to be really effective, and I don't like
• 55:23
  the cost. Like this whole trans thing. I think it bothers me because
• 55:28
  I think there's gonna be a lot of suicides. I think there's gonna be
• 55:30
  a lot and that's I'd like to avoid that. Yeah, that's what I
• 55:36
  really need more. But we are getting we are seeing an increase in female
• 55:40
  suicide. Yeah, yeah, I do think that. If I recall,
• 55:46
  the federal ban on FGM in the US was struck down, well there's that,
• 55:53
  I guess, and what to say about it? Yeah, no,
• 55:57
  And and all of the states responded by passing their own state laws banning FGM.
• 56:04
  All right, Well, I got like, because the federal the Supreme
• 56:07
  Court didn't say you can't have your own law. They just said there is
• 56:10
  no this is not federal jurisdiction. Like, oh yeah, so so yeah,
• 56:19
  but it's Uh, I didn't see a whole hulla baloo about that because
• 56:25
  we know who does that and uh and we know who's in their pocket,
• 56:35
  so we didn't see a whole lot of hullabaloo about it. Yeah. Uh,
• 56:39
  okay, I got another super chow or this is a rumble rant.
• 56:44
  Actually, so I got a rumble rant from the fishcott nukes. I don't
• 56:46
  know why it didn't show up in the chat feed, but he gives us
• 56:51
  ten dollars and says the government if the government is telling you not to blame
• 56:54
  feminism, then what is it do you think you ought to start doing?
• 57:00
  And then he says, damn you, damn you all to hell. All
• 57:04
  right, well, thank you for the super chow. I'm gonna play a
• 57:06
  little bit more. And when you guys start ranting, I'm gonna go feed
• 57:08
  the dog because it's time for him to eat. So let's play. Some
• 57:10
  of this though developed in just about every culture. This is what we mean
• 57:16
  by patriarchal societies, and that's probably why the likes of Matt Welsh apparently can't
• 57:22
  bear to let those practices go. Okay, Like what, okay? Why
• 57:30
  why would she think that universality across cultures means men are evil oppressors of women.
• 57:40
  And they all just decided, right, you know, those men in
• 57:45
  Papua New Guinea and the men in like uh Tuk tiep Tuk northern Canada,
• 57:52
  right, you know, and those dudes in eastern Mongolia, and also the
• 58:00
  guys in in uh what is now Great Britain, Okay, And they all
• 58:06
  got the idea. They all got the exact same idea, right, even
• 58:12
  before any of them had ever spoken or had any communication with any of the
• 58:16
  rest. Right, they all just got this bright. It just popped into
• 58:21
  their head ten thousand years ago. Oh no, oh no, Karen,
• 58:25
  to oppress women. Yeah, we need to oppress women. Okay. How
• 58:30
  is she saying that this is a social thing, this is a thing about
• 58:36
  men? Okay, unless she's saying that there's a biological impulse in men to
• 58:39
  oppress women. Okay, in which case there are sex differences in psychology,
• 58:50
  universal across cultures. Like what the fuck? Yeah, that's what I was
• 58:54
  trying to get at, Like, all right, if you're going to assert,
• 59:01
  okay, men using women for reproduction does not look like history. First
• 59:13
  of all, all right, it does not use women for women use men.
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  Okay, Yes, yes, there's there is. I would argue that
• 59:25
  the human beings get a little bit further away from the purest transactional nature of
• 59:30
  all this, but might just be my perspective. However, My point is
• 59:35
  that men strictly using women for reproduction does not look like the history that we
• 59:40
  see. It doesn't. And again, if she wants to assert, oh
• 59:47
  here this is oppression, Oh here, this is biology, she needs to
• 59:52
  do a lot more work into telling us and explaining which is which. Well,
• 59:55
  and if something is oppression, right. Okay, So in every single
• 1:00:02
  culture men oppressed women, and in every single culture, women happily submitted to
• 1:00:09
  their oppression, like they just cooperated culture because you're not flattering to women here.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah, but also our nearest relatives, Karen and most social mammals.
• 1:00:22
  Yeah, I know. But the women never once rose up, They never
• 1:00:27
  once had a slaver bole except when they did, of course, like the
• 1:00:31
  romance, and they told the men what to do for them. Yes,
• 1:00:37
  like that. Women did rise up in history when they decided something was pissed
• 1:00:42
  them off. Yeah, and then they told the men to fix it,
• 1:00:45
  and then they did, and the men fixed it, and then the women
• 1:00:49
  went back to their lives happy with what with with the process. But no,
• 1:00:53
  that has to be oppression. But also also the situation between men and
• 1:00:59
  women is simultaneously oppression but also biology. Okay, let's let's let's let's let's
• 1:01:07
  hear out her entire argument, because I want to see where it goes.
• 1:01:09
  I feel like I'm not quite there with slamming it into the dirt, so
• 1:01:13
  let's go on my videos. I remember once upon a time feminists saying that
• 1:01:17
  men and women were interchangeable at route, that all disparities between men and women
• 1:01:24
  were due to sexism, and he goes on to argue that all the trans
• 1:01:29
  lobbyists have done is say that given that men and women are interchangeable at route,
• 1:01:34
  men can interchange to being women and vice versa, as if entitled or
• 1:01:39
  fetishistic men have ever seriously listened to feminists. No, you don't remember any
• 1:01:46
  hell are you talking about? Oh good lord and women I play more or
• 1:01:57
  no? Yeah, just keep going are interchangeable route, because no feminist has
• 1:02:04
  ever said that. This is a misrepresentation of the argument that differences in personal
• 1:02:09
  qualities and behaviors between men and women are primarily the result of socialization. Okay,
• 1:02:16
  all right, stop here, Okay, So how much are meant to
• 1:02:21
  blame? Like, how much is male oppression? And how much is biology?
• 1:02:24
  Are men like ten percent to blame? No, no, no,
• 1:02:28
  no, no no, She's primarily because of social conditioning, right, And
• 1:02:32
  since men are in charge of society, right then, and the differences between
• 1:02:40
  men and women are due to primarily to social conditioning, then men are the
• 1:02:45
  ones who are dictating those social differences, which is she's basically just arguing and
• 1:02:54
  also point yes, it's all social except for obvious things. Women give birth,
• 1:03:00
  which I'm pretty sure aside from Loretta in the Life of Brian, most
• 1:03:06
  trans women aren't advocating, aren't aren't agitating for their right to give birth?
• 1:03:10
  Yeah, like seriously, Yeah, I'm pretty sure the trans women are like,
• 1:03:15
  yes, since women, you're the ones who give birth, you're not
• 1:03:19
  going to take your right to give birth away. And transmen, Yeah,
• 1:03:22
  you can go ahead and do that too. Yeah. I don't think that
• 1:03:27
  that's a policy among trans women. I think that they're talking about everything you
• 1:03:31
  would regard to be an active oppression by men, the psychology of women,
• 1:03:37
  the identity of women, the culture of women. You know, everything that
• 1:03:43
  youth have just summarily decided isn't something that women developed and made and was essential
• 1:03:50
  for the human race, but just some kind of slavery inflicted on them,
• 1:03:53
  which is so contemptuous of women in the past. It's unbelievable. How like,
• 1:03:59
  listen to this all of the things that women did which I'm learning about,
• 1:04:04
  you know, all of the work that women did, weaving the sales
• 1:04:09
  that made the Viking long ships a military force to be reckoned with, weaving
• 1:04:16
  the robes that made men kings. You know, determining the histories that were
• 1:04:24
  remembered, taught to children, and put enshrined in tapestries, clothing the world.
• 1:04:30
  All of that, all that women did, was not an expression of
• 1:04:36
  their ingenuity, their personal strengths, their dedication, their diligence, their discipline,
• 1:04:45
  their focus. All of that was inflicted upon them by men. Was
• 1:04:55
  chosen by men. Men decided that women were going to be a pillar of
• 1:05:00
  society and through their labor, we were going to survive as a species.
• 1:05:04
  Men decided that for women. Men decided that women were going to be a
• 1:05:10
  huge part. I mean, because think about it. Think about a life
• 1:05:13
  without clothes, that's a that's a death sentence for humans. Or bread.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, you know, that is a death sentence for humans. So it
• 1:05:21
  was women who said, you know what, we're feeling a little you know,
• 1:05:28
  we're feeling a little self contained. What we need to do is give
• 1:05:31
  really critical industries to women and allow them to control them completely to the point
• 1:05:36
  where we regard them as a form of magic. That that that's men did
• 1:05:42
  that If she doesn't know anything about women's history, she doesn't know anything about
• 1:05:47
  what women did, and she doesn't realize how much she's just she just spreading
• 1:05:53
  her ass cheeks, puckering up and taking a gigantic shit all over women in
• 1:06:00
  their role in the past. I'll pay some more. Yeah, sorry,
• 1:06:06
  I just got a little feasty. Obviously, we know a lot more about
• 1:06:11
  hormones now, we know a lot about the role of testosterone and certain male
• 1:06:15
  typical behaviors, and these discoveries undermine the argument. But you can just feel
• 1:06:21
  the disgust she has for men. Debate about male and female brains is far
• 1:06:27
  from settled. Nevertheless, the debate about male and female brains is far from
• 1:06:33
  settled. Yeah, because it's not working out the way she wants. So,
• 1:06:38
  yeah, it's not done yet. No, it's not. Okay,
• 1:06:41
  we need more peers to review. She's going to talk about Deafa Jewel's work
• 1:06:45
  here, I think if she talks about anybody's and yeah, no, what
• 1:06:50
  Deafa Joel found that there were No, there's no such thing as a male
• 1:06:55
  brain or a female brain because only ninety nine percent of brains are are on
• 1:07:01
  sex typical. Right, And so basically, if you're like the biggest jaboni
• 1:07:11
  ever, right, you go quatting in the summer, you go skied doing
• 1:07:14
  in the winter, You're just like, you're totally into like freaking you got
• 1:07:18
  a truck with a lift kit and a pair of truck nuts dangling off the
• 1:07:21
  back. You know, you're you're just like you're into like MMA and and
• 1:07:27
  you watch you got seasons tickets for the Oilers games and all of that,
• 1:07:30
  right, and you're like just you're like full bore into all of that shit.
• 1:07:34
  Right. Okay, but but you also like to watch Project Runway with
• 1:07:43
  your wife. Well, you're no different than the girliest girl whoever lived.
• 1:07:48
  He does like videos online on YouTube about how to do her nails and how
• 1:07:54
  to do your makeup and how to put on false eyelashes and all of that
• 1:07:57
  stuff. And you know she dresses real, you know, pretty, and
• 1:08:01
  and she has like one hundred pairs of high heels, and but she knows
• 1:08:06
  how to change a tire. That's literally what Daphna Joel said was there's no
• 1:08:15
  such thing as a male brain and a female brain. Okay, well,
• 1:08:17
  I guess take your bets, guys. Does she mentioned Daphnajols Let's find out,
• 1:08:21
  all right, let's find outization argument does have some merit, As we
• 1:08:27
  have seen and over the past century, allowing girls to get more and better
• 1:08:32
  educated and giving women more opportunities. They are now fulfilling roles that they were
• 1:08:39
  once believed to be incapable of. These rules didn't exist, okay, stop,
• 1:08:45
  Most of these roles did not exist before this century. Most of these
• 1:08:49
  roles did not exist in a capacity that wouldn't have torn women to shreds half
• 1:08:57
  a century ago. Okay. That so you cannot blame men for not having
• 1:09:03
  put in place the infrastructure and the safety necessary for women to be able to
• 1:09:09
  occupy these roles safely, because that's really what's happened. Yeah. And the
• 1:09:13
  other thing is that you like this woman, like, okay, every feminist
• 1:09:21
  should be forced to learn the history of fabric and not just through a feminist
• 1:09:28
  lens, and take a weaving course and find out how much actual labor it
• 1:09:33
  took, and also realize how incredibly important that industry was to our ancestors.
• 1:09:42
  People went to war over fabric, right, they went to well, they
• 1:09:45
  also went to war over bread, but they went to war over the things
• 1:09:49
  that women controlled and produced. You say that women were excluded in the past
• 1:09:57
  because they had their own thing that they were doing, Yeah, it's like,
• 1:10:01
  oh, oh, soccer players are excluded from playing tennis. No,
• 1:10:06
  they have their own sport. They had their whole gigantic, huge thing that
• 1:10:12
  they did. They had their own Yes, they had their own humongously influential
• 1:10:17
  important work that they did, including raising children. Right, I mean a
• 1:10:24
  lot of An interesting thing that I learned is that algebra, arithmetic, some
• 1:10:31
  of the early treatises on mathematics. One of the reason why they may have
• 1:10:35
  been so important to the Greeks because of weaving. Because in order to be
• 1:10:41
  able to create recreate life in patterns, you have to be able to reduce
• 1:10:46
  them down to threads and down to thread counts, and you need to be
• 1:10:51
  able to do it in an intuitive sense before you have like a decimal system.
• 1:10:56
  Right. So it's like this is also the progen or of a lot
• 1:11:00
  of thought, a lot of ways of thinking. This is absolutely critical stuff.
• 1:11:05
  And the thing is that women would do this and they would do it
• 1:11:10
  intuitively, so they'd be using geometry, they would be using algorithms and reductions,
• 1:11:15
  and they'd be doing it all intuitively. All it required was like a
• 1:11:19
  language to label, to lay it out. Algebra, geometry, like this
• 1:11:26
  is all stuff that comes from weaving, and you know, I am totally
• 1:11:31
  behind going back through history and saying, oh wait, look, women did
• 1:11:35
  this, Women did that. Women were really critical in this way. Hey,
• 1:11:40
  maybe this power that women had, you know, they didn't think they
• 1:11:44
  needed men's powers, especially since at the time men probably like they probably noticed
• 1:11:49
  that when you give men a power, usually they either try to wear it
• 1:11:54
  in order to attract a woman or use it to benefit the women in their
• 1:11:58
  lives. If you not notice, like, they probably noticed that. Okay,
• 1:12:04
  so you know, like they give women in the past the right that
• 1:12:10
  their work was important and they were able to arrange their lives in a way
• 1:12:15
  that they wanted or at least was comfortable to them. Okay, give that
• 1:12:18
  not not just or more comfortable than it could have been. Give women in
• 1:12:23
  the past their agency, their intelligence, their intuitiveness, their cunning, their
• 1:12:30
  discipline, and their worth, because your entire mentality and your entire framework strips
• 1:12:36
  that from women unless they are men. But then you get pissed when men
• 1:12:44
  are some men are like, but what if I we become women? Like,
• 1:12:46
  yeah, is the real irritation that there's anything they see anything valuable to
• 1:12:51
  being feminine and being a woman? Is that what you're really pissing you off.
• 1:12:56
  No, what's pissing her off and what pisses all the radfms off is
• 1:12:59
  that being considered women gives trans women access to intimate female space. Oh I
• 1:13:09
  don't think that's it, Karen. I honestly don't. I don't think it's
• 1:13:12
  the intimate female space. I think that's the weapon they use. I think
• 1:13:15
  what's really pissing them off is it gives trans women access to moral dominance over
• 1:13:24
  them. Well. Yeah, well, she said in the video that she
• 1:13:28
  does not consider herself a radical feminist, so just bear that in mind.
• 1:13:34
  Whether or not it's true, I think is definitely debatable, But by her
• 1:13:40
  account, she's claiming she's not a radical. I think that her claim is
• 1:13:45
  that she's a common sense, you know, feminist, like just like exercising
• 1:13:49
  common sense. Yeah, except for except for everything that comes out of her
• 1:13:53
  mouth. Yeah, I know, I know. I mean, I'm not
• 1:13:56
  saying this is justified. I'm saying, you know, there are rat fems
• 1:14:00
  that say they're rat fems, and then there are women like this. I
• 1:14:03
  guess the problem is she says that it was men's oppression of women, so
• 1:14:09
  men wanting to exploit women's reproductive resources that led to the roles that women were
• 1:14:14
  in. But like I said, with women's roles have been in any different
• 1:14:20
  than if men approached them like, oh, we want to help you make
• 1:14:24
  sure that we can continue to survive as a family and a culture. Well,
• 1:14:28
  the thing with a loom, right, a spinning wheel and allum is
• 1:14:31
  you can keep it in your house and you can also do it. You
• 1:14:34
  can also do it well, work from home while you're looking after your kids.
• 1:14:40
  Yeah, and actually what periodically stirring that pot on a stove? That's
• 1:14:45
  what the sensible historians like the sensible when I find a book, I really
• 1:14:50
  appreciate it with a woman who's actually being sensible about history, that's what they
• 1:14:56
  say. Yeah. The reason why this was women's role was because they had
• 1:15:01
  limitations in terms of nursing, pregnancy, early child. Yeah, and they
• 1:15:08
  want they this was a this was a role that allowed them to pursue those
• 1:15:13
  things to be able to reproduce, which incidentally is beneficial to women too.
• 1:15:16
  You know, human animals want to reproduce. That's the that's the wind condition
• 1:15:21
  for an animal, all right, So they could do that and pursue these
• 1:15:27
  these these ways of gaining power and influence in their cultures, and they and
• 1:15:33
  do both at the same time. I mean like both at the same time.
• 1:15:36
  And that was it. There's okay, And right now we have we
• 1:15:41
  have this crisis going on in the workplace at at Post COVID, right where
• 1:15:45
  people just don't want to come back to work. They want to continue to
• 1:15:48
  work from home, right, they don't want to go back to the office.
• 1:15:53
  And it's like, well, yeah, because when you're working from home,
• 1:15:58
  if you can do that, right, you're close to your kids,
• 1:16:00
  you can look after your dogs. You're like you're two minutes away from a
• 1:16:05
  tasty microwaved snack. You know, like you're everything everything is. You can
• 1:16:12
  work in your underpants, right, you don't have to you don't have to
• 1:16:15
  wear like business casual or like even worse, a suit and tie. Right,
• 1:16:21
  you could eat. You're you're not paying money, you're not expending energy
• 1:16:26
  commuting. It's like, it's great. Working from home is fucking great.
• 1:16:32
  It's awesome, right, So nobody wants to go back to the office.
• 1:16:40
  And and then she's saying, well, women were oppressed because and again the
• 1:16:45
  industries that they participated in they did from home. Yeah, so I don't
• 1:16:50
  understand men we just had to like march one thousand miles and go fight a
• 1:16:54
  battle and then march back. But you know, she she was, she
• 1:16:59
  was glued to the loom. And also they men couldn't have marched to battle
• 1:17:05
  without women's work. There you go, because they would have gone naked,
• 1:17:12
  they would have had to go down some dead. But you know, not
• 1:17:14
  very commonly, all right, But I just wanted to point out, like
• 1:17:16
  like she's she's proposing that somehow you get men's oppression in the mix and something
• 1:17:23
  changes, and nobody with any sense says it does okay, And she does
• 1:17:30
  that because she wants it both ways. She wants to say that women's role
• 1:17:32
  are a result of oppression, but also that women's role should be protected by
• 1:17:38
  women's biology. Yeah, no, if you, if you, if you
• 1:17:41
  actually do the two scenarios, Okay, So what would have happened if men
• 1:17:47
  were looking to partner with women and help them, you know, and provide
• 1:17:54
  for them and make life comfortable for them so that they could have chill and
• 1:18:00
  also reduce conflicts with other men? Yeah, and and just make make the
• 1:18:04
  surrounding environment safer for the for women, and and give women something productive to
• 1:18:10
  do to make them, give them meaning, a sense of meaning and purpose,
• 1:18:15
  right and and all of these things, right, and even some influence
• 1:18:18
  and power within the community, all of that. Okay. So if men
• 1:18:23
  went there with those intentions, right, Like, I want to provide all
• 1:18:27
  of these things for this woman, right. If if a man went in,
• 1:18:30
  I want to, I want to. I want to make sure she
• 1:18:32
  has like a career, you know, that she doesn't feel like she's just
• 1:18:35
  stagnating, right, that she's she's just a baby factory. But I want
• 1:18:42
  her to be able to have as many kids as she wants. And I
• 1:18:44
  want her to be able to feed those kids and keep them safe and stay
• 1:18:47
  close to them when they're little, because that's what she's going to want to
• 1:18:50
  do. And and I want to. I want to be able to provide
• 1:18:55
  her with all of these things and provide her with everything that she needs to
• 1:18:58
  do that, right, And those are intentions. That's what I want to
• 1:19:00
  do. I want to serve this woman, Okay. And then if he
• 1:19:05
  goes in and he says, I want to oppress this woman, and I'm
• 1:19:10
  going to do it by you know, giving her something, some kind of
• 1:19:14
  slave activity to do things cloth, right, and and another slave activity to
• 1:19:19
  do, pumping out babies, and another slave activity to do, you know,
• 1:19:25
  cooking meals and doing laundry, and and another slave activity to do doing
• 1:19:30
  all this other stuff. Right, and she's going to do it all for
• 1:19:32
  me, and and you know she'll I'll just trick her into thinking that she
• 1:19:38
  has some kind of influence and some kind of contribution to the household. I'll
• 1:19:42
  trick her into thinking that, so I keep her subjugated, right, and
• 1:19:45
  like, the outcomes are exactly the same. You're right out, The outcome
• 1:19:49
  is the same because it's biology. And the other thing is that she might
• 1:19:55
  say, well, women were excluded. Yes, women were excluded from example,
• 1:20:00
  serving in the army, when serving in the army required being away from
• 1:20:03
  home for twenty five years and regularly marching twenty miles in a day with six
• 1:20:09
  sixty pounds on your back. Okay, they were excluded. And they're the
• 1:20:15
  same reason that women men are excluded from giving birth. They're physically incapable of
• 1:20:18
  it, right. Yeah, for most of human history, the jobs that
• 1:20:23
  men did were physically like women were physically incapable of doing them. Period.
• 1:20:30
  That's why as a radical feminist. Okay, she doesn't call herself that,
• 1:20:34
  but whatever. You don't want trans women competing in your sports? Yeah,
• 1:20:40
  the same reason. Throughout human history, men did certain jobs because women were
• 1:20:45
  physically incapable of them. And maybe the whole idea of women being legally restricted
• 1:20:50
  from them was simply to give men a sense of pride or that this they
• 1:20:57
  could wear these rather arduous, on comfortable, self sacrificial jobs as a means
• 1:21:02
  to feel like a man rather than being used, you know, all right,
• 1:21:11
  Okay, a little bit more, you want to play more, all
• 1:21:14
  right? The true meaning of biological essentialism that our personal traits and capabilities are
• 1:21:20
  determined by sex, and the ones associated with men are called masculine, and
• 1:21:26
  the ones associated with women are called feminine. This is one of many such
• 1:21:30
  tables of qualities that I found on the web. Masculine traits include being aggressive,
• 1:21:38
  independent, tough, logical, and certainly aren't complaining about trans women of
• 1:21:45
  emotional kind. I mean, some of those are obviously nonsense. I don't
• 1:21:53
  personally subscribe to the taboola rasa, the notion that we are all blank slate
• 1:22:00
  conditioned to be masculine or feminine. It's far more complicated. Than that.
• 1:22:04
  But in many roles we have seen that men and women are interchangeable. There
• 1:22:10
  is no point in denying this, however much you might not like it.
• 1:22:15
  No, okay, deppression but also biology, yeah okay, but okay,
• 1:22:23
  So my husband works with a female engineer, okay, Like he's an engineer.
• 1:22:30
  She's an engineer okay, and and they're both She she has her PN
• 1:22:36
  so she can stamp things, you know, like she can she can approve
• 1:22:41
  projects and stuff like that. He doesn't have his PN yet because he's lazy,
• 1:22:44
  but or he's he's he's impatient and the process is onerous, but and
• 1:22:53
  he doesn't feel like he needs it necessarily. But uh, he's he's basically
• 1:22:59
  the yeah, the prime person that like, the lead person on the team,
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  because he's just the most well grounded. He's the most I guess he
• 1:23:11
  has the broadest experience and the most expertise and and the largest amount of creativity.
• 1:23:18
  Right. But this this female engineer, she's like she's thirty two.
• 1:23:26
  She's desperate to find a man to settle down with, right so that she
• 1:23:32
  can have a baby. And it's she's coming up on the hard deadline for
• 1:23:41
  that. She's going to be in a hurry. So that scares a lot
• 1:23:44
  of guys off, right, you know, on the first date, when
• 1:23:47
  it's like, okay, so can you get me pregnant in three months?
• 1:23:50
  You know, like when that's the vibe, it's it's it's a little scary
• 1:23:57
  for men. But she approaches work completely differently than my husband does. My
• 1:24:06
  husband his entire focus is on work. I do everything that I do around
• 1:24:13
  the house and everything to support his ability to work and to excel at his
• 1:24:17
  job, including proofreading emails, you know, looking for typos and stuff,
• 1:24:25
  you know, going through certain things, dealing with a bunch of logistical stuff.
• 1:24:29
  I pay all the bills, I like, look after the entire everything
• 1:24:33
  else, and he just focuses on his work. That is his one task.
• 1:24:38
  He does his job. And meanwhile, she like she broke her hand
• 1:24:45
  skiing. She went on a long weekend ski trip. Broke her hand,
• 1:24:50
  of course, when you're spend your life typing at your job, right,
• 1:24:56
  broke her wrist. Rather, she had to take two months off that union
• 1:25:00
  shop. You know, she's got plenty of medical leaf right, you know,
• 1:25:04
  paid medical leap. Right. Then she goes out on her newly heeled
• 1:25:10
  wrist and does some rock climbing and jumps down off the wall only a few
• 1:25:17
  feet, but lands funny and blows out her knees. So then she was
• 1:25:23
  on crutches for like four months and needed a knee replacement, right, And
• 1:25:28
  and I'm like, so she spent like six months of the last year off
• 1:25:38
  off work, like just just not working. And I'm like, yeah,
• 1:25:47
  no. My husband is like he New Year's Day he went in, right.
• 1:25:55
  New Year's Day was a stat holiday, right, And I was so
• 1:25:58
  mad at him for this because it was like he told me on New Year's
• 1:26:01
  Eve, yeah, I might go in tomorrow. And I was like,
• 1:26:04
  well, it'd be nice to know so that I can make sure I cook
• 1:26:08
  enough so that you have some food to take you, right, And he's
• 1:26:12
  like, you know, I'll decide tomorrow morning. And then he sets the
• 1:26:15
  alarm for six am, like usual. So I get up at five and
• 1:26:21
  like usual, because I can't stand being a human being for at least an
• 1:26:27
  hour. After I get up and I do my thing, I have a
• 1:26:30
  cigarette, I have a cup of coffee, and then I hear the uh
• 1:26:36
  I don't hear the alarm go off in the bedroom, So I get up.
• 1:26:43
  I wait, and I wait and I wait a minutes, like suddenly
• 1:26:45
  seven thirty and the alarm and I hear him talking to the alexa and I'm
• 1:26:50
  like, okay, well maybe he's up, and no, he was just
• 1:26:54
  asking her what time it was. So I poked my head in the door
• 1:26:59
  and I startled it and he was all pissed off at me because now he's
• 1:27:02
  like, I'm like, are you awake? And he's like, well now
• 1:27:04
  I am, and that, and then he's I He goes to you know,
• 1:27:14
  get ready and stuff. They have a bath and and all of that,
• 1:27:16
  and I'm like, are you going in? And he says, I'll
• 1:27:18
  decide when I've decided, right, And I'm like Jesus Christ like and then
• 1:27:27
  ten o'clock he's like, can you drive me in? And and I'm like,
• 1:27:32
  fucking fine, I'll drive. It's a different level of devotion. Yeah,
• 1:27:38
  it's because there's there's more to to gender than just you know, there's
• 1:27:45
  different instincts, like men instinctually are driven to engage in some kind of pro
• 1:27:53
  social activity that increases their status. Yes, that's that's just the way they
• 1:27:58
  are. And it's not that women aren't like women seem to be driven more
• 1:28:01
  by piety and reverence and diligence in some ways. And when you can capture
• 1:28:09
  that like the they did in like the fifties, with all of the the
• 1:28:14
  all of the national patriotic narrative around going into science, they managed to inspire
• 1:28:18
  a lot of women to do that in the fifties. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:28:21
  and you know, and they didn't do it by girl power and and oh
• 1:28:27
  you can look chic. I mean, they presented scientists as being professional but
• 1:28:31
  also patriotic heroes who were doing things for their society. And for whatever reason,
• 1:28:38
  women responded to that. And I think that's an aspect of that kind
• 1:28:41
  of piety and reverence. So I mean, it's not that women lack those
• 1:28:45
  kinds of instincts or similar instincts. It's just they're different in a way,
• 1:28:50
  and it's a different way of harness. It's they're less self contained, right
• 1:28:56
  yeah. And so you have these men who were like, you know,
• 1:29:00
  like my dad, right, he missed my grade nine graduation ceremony, you
• 1:29:04
  know, like moving from junior high to high school, and you know,
• 1:29:09
  mom made me a dress and that was it was really pretty and all of
• 1:29:12
  that and and and but he wasn't there. Where was he? He was
• 1:29:20
  in Swan Hills, which is like two hours drive maybe three north of here,
• 1:29:27
  in the pouring rain, with his legs sticking out from under a freaking
• 1:29:30
  uh semi trailer, you know, fixing the uh the engine. That that
• 1:29:41
  was what he was doing. Yeah. So it's like a different kind of
• 1:29:45
  there is complimentary, bit different and honestly like, uh, like I said,
• 1:29:48
  she wants to have it. She wants to have her cake and eat
• 1:29:51
  it too, she wants. But women's biology to be the reason why men
• 1:29:58
  forced their role on them. Yeah, and it's like no, like women
• 1:30:01
  would have been like seriously, like imagine it. Women would have been like
• 1:30:05
  pregnant, well you know there was occasionally Viking women who did this, but
• 1:30:09
  pregnant after mass ha done with babies strapped to their breast. Yeah, just
• 1:30:14
  just excuse me a moment, squat, press out a kid, strap it
• 1:30:17
  to your back, you know, trailing the ubilical cord, and just run
• 1:30:21
  after the mask. Yeah no, no, not human women storry, okay,
• 1:30:29
  and not human babies no, right, Like we're not like giraffs.
• 1:30:32
  We can't like drop our babies four feet onto the freaking dusty Savannah and then
• 1:30:39
  just continue walking after like a thirty minute rest. Yeah, the babies along
• 1:30:45
  behind. Yeah, that is not humans, lady, just not And believe
• 1:30:53
  me, it wasn't men who prevented women from that. You know, just
• 1:30:58
  give squat down, give birth on the battle field, strapped the kid to
• 1:31:00
  your and then just can continue to use the lady, we'll throw it while
• 1:31:03
  flinging around a broadsword. Yet, No, that wasn't men that stopped you.
• 1:31:09
  No, it really wasn't. You know, like, as someone who's
• 1:31:13
  gone through the you know, the the mina area that that comes after childbirth,
• 1:31:19
  it's like, okay, you can't even pee right away. Everything is
• 1:31:27
  so inflamed, so swollen right down there that you might not be able to
• 1:31:33
  pee for twelve hours after you've given birth. Right and when you do pee,
• 1:31:42
  it's like you're peeing razor blades soaked in alcohol. Okay, yeah it
• 1:31:50
  is. It is insane. And they're like, okay, so you can
• 1:31:54
  have six baths, right, like, so you can like put basically you
• 1:31:58
  put like a you suspend a bowl of warm salt water right in the toilet
• 1:32:05
  bowl and you sit in that, okay, to soothe the pain and and
• 1:32:15
  you know, oh, you should try and pee in the shower, right,
• 1:32:19
  because they make you shower right away because you know, you're all covered
• 1:32:23
  in fucking blood, right and and amniotic fluid and shit. Right, so
• 1:32:28
  they get you in the shower and they're like, try to pee in the
• 1:32:30
  shower. It'll hurt less, right, And then and then afterwards it's just
• 1:32:34
  like, oh and if you pass any large cloths, let me know.
• 1:32:40
  And I'm like how large? And They're like anything bigger than your fist?
• 1:32:45
  And I'm like what the fuck. And I'm like Jesus Christ. Yeah,
• 1:32:54
  Car, you're still out sitting on the picnic table having a cigarette twenty minutes
• 1:32:59
  after I gave birth to that little fucker. But Karen, oh god,
• 1:33:05
  she's so delusion like, and again this is you can't have it both ways,
• 1:33:11
  all right. You can't say that men inflicted this on women because of
• 1:33:16
  biology. Because of biology, but it's also socialization, Like, this is
• 1:33:21
  what she's doing, and if she wants to have it both ways, then
• 1:33:26
  kindly tell us how much is oppression and how much is biology so we can
• 1:33:30
  just put that on men's tab and be done with it. Yeah, I
• 1:33:34
  mean, like you look at you look at the you know, the stat
• 1:33:39
  that Jordan Peterson brings up that was brought up in that Here and Vest documentary,
• 1:33:44
  the Norwegian documentary The Gender Equality Paradox. It's a must watch for anybody.
• 1:33:50
  But when you when you look at this the stat that they brought up,
• 1:33:55
  which is that countries that have less gender equality in terms of the roles
• 1:34:03
  of men and women, right, that they're expected to you know, like
• 1:34:08
  more patriarchal, right, in terms of you know, the roles of couples
• 1:34:13
  in marriage and all of that stuff. Right. Somehow, you see that
• 1:34:17
  the more modern as society is, the greater the disparity in preferences between men
• 1:34:26
  and women. Right. So you know, you go to some place like
• 1:34:30
  Afghanistan or India and you're going to find much higher proportion of engineers or computer
• 1:34:40
  scientists are women than you are going to find in the West. Well,
• 1:34:44
  yeah, you know why, honestly, probably because those I'm going to give
• 1:34:48
  you my estimation, I know they have another one. It's probably because those
• 1:34:51
  women are much more motivated, are still coming off of that that cultural tradition
• 1:34:59
  of female industry. Well and also because they're you know, like you're if
• 1:35:05
  you're living in poverty. Right, you're going to look at not what's going
• 1:35:11
  to fulfill you necessarily, but what's going to give you a good income.
• 1:35:15
  Right. And you're also looking you know when they saw this in Iran,
• 1:35:20
  you're also looking at what's gonna what what degree would be highest value to put
• 1:35:26
  in my trousseau to attract a high value husband, right, because if I'm
• 1:35:32
  an engineer, he has to be at least an engineer. But here's another
• 1:35:36
  thing. When we we look at supposedly gender neutral countries, we're also they're
• 1:35:45
  not actually gender neutral. They have usually adopted an attitude that men oppress women.
• 1:35:54
  So that's that is that is a belief system that these cultures where women
• 1:35:58
  are still more in perhaps or more are more providing for their families. Maybe
• 1:36:03
  it's also an element of like being more traditional in mindset and not adopting this
• 1:36:11
  kind of resent resentment towards their partner or their family that they do in the
• 1:36:15
  West. Because that's because it's actually pretty astounding when you think about it,
• 1:36:19
  that Western women consider it oppression to be the most leisured class in human history.
• 1:36:29
  Yeah, it's like homemakers, I mean not like homesteaders, but homemakers
• 1:36:34
  who don't make an effort, you know, who have a nanny or an
• 1:36:38
  old pa and like a you know, a housekeeper or even just modern conveniences,
• 1:36:45
  right, and they drop their kid off in kindergarten. You know,
• 1:36:49
  they don't have a difficult life. They have the easiest life, the easiest
• 1:36:55
  life path of every any human being in all of human history. And yet
• 1:36:59
  we have created a society that conceives of that as oppression. It's really and
• 1:37:05
  this is the new American dream too, because they did some stats like a
• 1:37:09
  while back, maybe five years back, right, that found that sixty percent
• 1:37:14
  of full time working women wanted to work less, not more. Well,
• 1:37:18
  I think that's probably true about men too, right, but the a plurality,
• 1:37:27
  something like forty percent wanted to not work at all. Yeah, they
• 1:37:32
  wanted to be home with their kids. Well, of course, So that's
• 1:37:36
  and the thing is what's really you know, ironically, if you take a
• 1:37:41
  big step back and look at the big picture, what we're seeing the fallout
• 1:37:45
  of, I think is not just all of this feminism, which started really
• 1:37:53
  with in a big way with corporations like the Rockefellers, but we're seeing the
• 1:38:00
  result of taking of the removal of women's jobs. Like if you if you
• 1:38:06
  think about like history, historically women controlled textiles, the controlled aspects of baking,
• 1:38:15
  brewing, but textiles was the really big thing. Yeah, but it's
• 1:38:17
  just like, okay, so you okay, so okay, you're a cook.
• 1:38:24
  You're cooking, and you're cleaning, and you're you're you're washing dishes okay
• 1:38:30
  at home, and you're doing laundry right and you know, seventy years ago
• 1:38:35
  you were doing all that by hand. Yeah, but that's the thing,
• 1:38:40
  Like, it's yeah, and now they don't produce anything that's now. Yeah.
• 1:38:46
  Now it's like you've got a dishwasher, right, you got prepared foods
• 1:38:54
  that you can buy at the grocery store. Right, You've got a washing
• 1:38:58
  machine and a dryer. You don't have to do the clothes line nothing,
• 1:39:02
  you don't. You don't have to do the freaking cauldron on the stove and
• 1:39:06
  the laundry mangle, no, you know, or the clothes line. You
• 1:39:11
  just throw it in and set it to ignore and and then and then it
• 1:39:15
  beeps when it's ready and you move it to the dryer, or you can
• 1:39:18
  even get a combo wash or dryer. Now. Front loading and so it's
• 1:39:25
  like, uh, there's there's really no need, right, We've we've so
• 1:39:33
  we we took textiles and we put them in factories to save women that work
• 1:39:42
  right. And we took we we took beer and we put it in big
• 1:39:46
  factories to save women that work. And we we took baking and we put
• 1:39:53
  it in bakeries to save women that work right. And we took all of
• 1:39:58
  the domestic shores in the house and we put appliances around them. Nobody.
• 1:40:02
  No woman has to go out and hang her living room rug over her clothesline
• 1:40:09
  and beat it with a carpet beater. An we can't just go to a
• 1:40:12
  vacuum cleaner. What we can't do And all of this is, at the
• 1:40:16
  end of the day, give women a sense of purpose. Yeah, well
• 1:40:20
  we kind of taken away their sense of purpose. Yes, that's what I'm
• 1:40:24
  getting at. It's like what we're seeing, I think. And Betty free
• 1:40:28
  Dan said, oh, that's the problem with no name. Yeah, women
• 1:40:30
  have lost their sense of purpose. Yeah. No, And Diana Davison said,
• 1:40:38
  you know, you don't. You don't have a problem with no name.
• 1:40:43
  You have a Maslow problem. You don't have an oppression problem. You
• 1:40:45
  have a Maslow problem. Yes, yes, And the problem is that women,
• 1:40:50
  for whatever reason, especially encouraged by feminism, seem to think that men
• 1:40:55
  are a magic box with the solution inside. Yeah. Oh dude, you're
• 1:41:00
  not gonna find You're not going to carve up men to find the solution.
• 1:41:03
  You got to find it inside. Yeah. No, It's it's like they
• 1:41:09
  they're like, well, I'm I'm not self actualizing, and it's like actualize
• 1:41:14
  me. Yeah, yeah, you need to self actualize me. And and
• 1:41:18
  it's like yeah, no, no, because because and you're gonna you're gonna
• 1:41:24
  blame men because they removed all of the things because on the bottom three tiers
• 1:41:31
  they do what they men do. They turn women from being to be having
• 1:41:39
  the necessity of making the textiles to being the primary beneficiaries of these mechanical instruments
• 1:41:45
  building the textiles. And that's where all fashion comes from. Yeah. You
• 1:41:50
  know, like before you'd have to make all your dresses ye unless you are
• 1:41:56
  super rich and could hire another woman to make your dresses. Yep, you
• 1:41:59
  know. And now women can get mountains of clothes, all with a particular
• 1:42:05
  look or flair or whatever they can. They can have as many more outfits
• 1:42:11
  than a Russian princess. Yeah, you know, and that's all because of
• 1:42:14
  the mechanization of cloth. But at the same time as there's this huge emphasis
• 1:42:19
  on the visual, there's this de emphasis on the purpose for women. And
• 1:42:25
  I think that this is what we're seeing even with the with the whole idea
• 1:42:30
  of what I was talking about, the the the Party of the single woman,
• 1:42:33
  you know, the piety and the reverence, also the sense of purpose.
• 1:42:38
  The the Party of the Single Women is giving women a sense of purpose
• 1:42:43
  by advocating for groups like trans women. Not in a very ultimately beneficial way,
• 1:42:50
  I would say, but you know, that's that's what's happening, Like
• 1:42:56
  the Party of the Single Women giving women like this a sense of purpose outside
• 1:43:00
  the family, which incidentally, I know that the family was a big part
• 1:43:04
  of women's purpose, but they still had that other thing, that other really
• 1:43:09
  critical thing that at the end of the day they could say, hey,
• 1:43:12
  look at what I made. That isn't just another kid. It is important
• 1:43:16
  art, cultural artifact. Yeah, I'm a member of the PTA, or
• 1:43:20
  I do fundraising for my exactly hockey league or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:26
  yeah, and that's that. That again, the Party of the single woman.
• 1:43:30
  Gives these women a sense of purpose, gives them a sense of piety,
• 1:43:32
  gives them a sense of reverence, gives them something to nurture. It's
• 1:43:36
  all seems very dysfunctional because, like you were saying, when you have a
• 1:43:41
  kid, you're raising a kid through the eyes of eventually becoming autonomous and resilient
• 1:43:45
  and being able to manage the slings of arrows about rageous fortune. And they
• 1:43:50
  aren't like they're taking all women do that though, yeah, I'm not all
• 1:43:55
  women. But they're taking on But there's a difference between failing to do something
• 1:43:59
  and not having it as an ideal in the first place. Though, they're
• 1:44:01
  taking on trans women, but they're keeping them in the state of infancy.
• 1:44:06
  They're taking on my immigrants, but they're keeping them in the state of infancy.
• 1:44:12
  So these politics are ultimately self defeating. But on the other hand,
• 1:44:15
  like, this is bigger than feminism, It's bigger than this woman. This
• 1:44:20
  problem. It is a result of industrialization, which is itself a result of
• 1:44:27
  the incredible peace that Christianity brought and also a different way that like Christianity brought
• 1:44:36
  us this idea of examining the world and God's works with a critical eye,
• 1:44:43
  a scientific eye that comes from Christianity, folks. And this idea of sharing
• 1:44:50
  knowledge is also comes from Christianity, because before, if you were a druid
• 1:44:56
  and you've found a particularly potent bit of bistletoe or whatever, you'd keep that
• 1:45:00
  ship to yourself. But then with the advents of Christian virtues, the idea
• 1:45:04
  of sharing knowledge becomes a virtue in and of itself. Yeah, okay,
• 1:45:10
  so that that also assisted with the advance of knowledge. So we're dealing with
• 1:45:15
  the direct results of technological and social progress that we haven't resolved the problems that
• 1:45:24
  have kind have come of these issues have not been resolved. Feminism is a
• 1:45:29
  very poor solution, very poor, one of the poorest, not a good
• 1:45:32
  solution. How would Trump say that? Not very good? It's not good.
• 1:45:38
  So it's a very bad it's a bad solution, don't I think it's
• 1:45:44
  very not good, bad, very bad, sad. I think if you
• 1:45:49
  do this solution, it's going to be terrible, just terrible. It's going
• 1:45:55
  to be it's going to be very not it's going to be terrible, just
• 1:46:00
  the worst. Yeah, it's sad. Well, yeah, because our solution
• 1:46:05
  is leading to the rise and I don't know. Oh no, I'm here,
• 1:46:10
  Am I here? Can you hear her? I can hear you?
• 1:46:14
  Aaron, did you do something? No? Do you hear Alison? Now?
• 1:46:18
  Oh she showed up. No, she dropped, she dropped out of
• 1:46:23
  the actual visual thing. Oh I see. Okay, So anyway, what
• 1:46:28
  I was going to say is, yeah, that this is, this is
• 1:46:30
  and this the direct result of all of this has been the creation of the
• 1:46:33
  Party the Single Woman. And and it's not just government, it's also corporate
• 1:46:39
  like Rockefeller did this crap. And there's all kinds of initiatives with factories,
• 1:46:43
  getting uh, farm girls out of their families and working in factories and stuff
• 1:46:47
  and all of that, and it's just culminated in this and that we need
• 1:46:54
  a solution because otherwise, from now to the point at which the Party of
• 1:46:59
  Single Women and completely cannibalizes all the productivity of society, they're going to dominate
• 1:47:04
  politics. That's it. There's nothing else, like there's just there's just nothing
• 1:47:11
  else, all right, all right, yes, do a little more.
• 1:47:14
  I gotta I got a patron show and they gotta pick up lindsay okay,
• 1:47:17
  yeah, no, and and I I gotta I gotta go in like five
• 1:47:21
  minutes, So all right, all right, that that'll work just a little
• 1:47:25
  bit more. That's a little bit more. Conclusion of this guy's argument is
• 1:47:30
  that women shouldn't have done all that. They shouldn't have got educated, They
• 1:47:34
  shouldn't have gone out and become industry and politics or anywhere else. They shouldn't
• 1:47:42
  have become scientists and engineers or carpenters or plumbers or whatever. They should have
• 1:47:47
  just shup. But since, okay, this is real, this is this
• 1:47:54
  is tala users behave Okay, You're like, oh, could you uh,
• 1:47:59
  you know, not deliberately make a mess. And they're like, how dare
• 1:48:04
  you say that I shouldn't be able to live in this house? Like,
• 1:48:09
  no, don't tell me how to live? Yeah, I I. And
• 1:48:14
  you're just like, well, could you pick up your pick up your jacket
• 1:48:18
  and hang it up? How dare you? How dare you say that I
• 1:48:21
  have no right to come in this house at all? How dare you say
• 1:48:25
  that's like, that's not what he said. You are constructing a gigantic straw
• 1:48:30
  man because you don't want to engage with what he actually said. Yeah,
• 1:48:34
  and it's all built on your imputation of intention there's no indication that he wanted
• 1:48:41
  me to read the post because she didn't read the whole thing and she has
• 1:48:44
  it on the screen. Okay, yeah, read the post. I'm gonna
• 1:48:46
  read it. Read so Spurge eighty three said, I remember once upon a
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  time feminists saying that men and women were interchangeable at root, that all disparities
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  between men and women were due to sexes, that women and men leading different
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  lives and feeling different feelings was due to sexism, that all purported scientific differences
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  were due to sexist male biologists, and that anyone who questioned or disagreed with
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  this hypothesis was guilty of sexism. All the trans side has done is take
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  the position and say, given that men and women are interchangeable at root,
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  men can interchange to being women and vice versa. One was downstream of the
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  other. Or are we supposed to believe that some other totally separate ideological force
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  dreamt up transgenderism, orthodox Christianity, question mark Randy and objectivism question mark feminism
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  caused this? Well, certainly wasn't orthodoxy, Certainly not is ein Rand came
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  up with that either? But that is the actual comment, right, Yeah,
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  I just read the actual comment. She read between all those lines,
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  and she didn't. She didn't. She imagined between the she hallucinated between the
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  lines that women, women shouldn't have gone out into the world and done all
• 1:50:13
  of these this, that and the other thing. He didn't say, this
• 1:50:15
  individual, if it's a he or she, didn't say that women couldn't go
• 1:50:18
  out into the world. First of all, women were out in the world,
• 1:50:21
  or at least a big part of it, well before feminism period.
• 1:50:27
  Okay, brewster spinster, webster, webster camp followers. Yeah, and also
• 1:50:34
  lookers on in the in the voting process. There's all kinds of things that
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  women did to make theirselves heard and to and to produce stuff for their families
• 1:50:44
  and society. They were the first lobbyists. Okay, so this is this
• 1:50:48
  he never said. He's not saying anything about women going out into the world
• 1:50:53
  and actually engaging productively with it, or even staying at home and engaging productively
• 1:50:58
  with the world through the of their home. Not anything that. He's not
• 1:51:01
  saying anything about that. He's saying specifically, pick up your pick up your
• 1:51:05
  jacket and hang it on the wall. That's it. He's not saying,
• 1:51:09
  leave the house. He's just saying, pick up your jacket and hang it
• 1:51:12
  on the wall. He's saying specifically, feminists did this. Yeah right,
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  They said men and women were interchangeable. One that came from feminism. Yeah,
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  nowhere else. There were no Orthodox Jews who were saying it. I
• 1:51:28
  said Orthodox Jews. There were no Orthodox There were no Conservative Christians saying it.
• 1:51:34
  There was no even liberal feminists or like average feminists saying it. Even
• 1:51:41
  they would say, oh, yes, there's a masculine energy and a feminine
• 1:51:44
  energy, and I used my crystals to channel one or the other depending on
• 1:51:48
  my mood. You know that they wouldn't say that either. Okay, you
• 1:51:53
  guys said that. You radical feminists said that. And incidentally, you have
• 1:51:58
  the same opinions. You though you're of dis vowing radical feminism, you still
• 1:52:01
  attribute not to biology, but to oppression the roles of women to throughout history.
• 1:52:05
  So you are a radical feminist at least in your belief system. Okay,
• 1:52:10
  that is what he's calling out, or she is calling out. Nothing
• 1:52:13
  to do with women going into and doing jobs because they always have. There's
• 1:52:16
  nothing, there's nothing new about women doing things because guess what they always did?
• 1:52:23
  Yeah, right, and there's no indication that he has a problem with
• 1:52:26
  that. He's specifically calling out one percent the products of feminism ideology, which
• 1:52:33
  is men and women are interchangeable, therefore women's role throughout history as a result
• 1:52:39
  of oppression. All right, Yes, it is now three o'clock. You
• 1:52:45
  can say whatever you want if you want to say anything. I you know
• 1:52:47
  what you said it, you said it well, but it is now three
• 1:52:51
  o'clock. I must I must await, okay, and then we will I
• 1:52:58
  will say the things. Okay, everyone, unless you had a few words
• 1:53:01
  left, Brian, No, I think this is good. I mean there
• 1:53:06
  is a lot more, but we can do. I think this is this
• 1:53:10
  is a gem. And as far as oh yeah, yeah, this is
• 1:53:14
  yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot in here. I want to
• 1:53:17
  revisit it. But it gets better, well, I mean and buy better,
• 1:53:24
  I mean way worse. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope.
• 1:53:28
  All right, but I'm going to go, Uh have a good night
• 1:53:31
  or everybody, and uh and uh good night or past all right? Karen,
• 1:53:46
  Oh you know how to hang up? You know how to leave?
• 1:53:49
  Oh, she did it, she's she she did it. Figured it out.
• 1:53:53
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• 1:54:17
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• 1:54:24
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• 1:54:31
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• 1:54:34
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