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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Fresh Coast Recap & We have BTS Access for Master's Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:28
  What's going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
• 0:33
  So I just hit go live,
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  and I got a message back
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  from Twitter that said,
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  unless you have a premium
• 0:39
  subscription now,
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  you cannot go live on this
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  platform any longer.
• 0:43
  Wow.
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  So just found that out as we went live,
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  because I just went live on Friday,
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  and it was fine.
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  Yeah.
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  With Bethany, and now today it's not fine.
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  So I got to look into that.
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  So if you were here on
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  Twitter to check us out,
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  you're not going to see us tonight.
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  And you won't even hear that message.
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  So there you go.
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  Kipping It Real is just here
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  for the gators and snakes.
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  All right, so how was your guys' weekend?
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  Mine was good.
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  You were there.
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  I was.
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  Put some miles on the car.
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  Yeah.
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  Before we go into that recap,
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  how about you, Carolyn?
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  Today I went axe throwing
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  for the first time with Lex.
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  So we went to this local bar
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  place that just opened up in her city.
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  It was really fun.
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  She beat me on most of the games,
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  and I don't know if I
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  should be impressed or
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  worried about that.
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  It was really fun.
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  And then we've just been a
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  lot of walks around the
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  neighborhoods and stuff like that.
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  There's like this really
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  nice park that we do.
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  It's like an 800 meter loop
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  with some good shade,
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  which is important in
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  California because it's
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  been like 110 degrees on a
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  lot of the days.
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  But yeah, getting a lot of steps in.
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  We go for like at least a
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  four mile walk often like every morning.
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  And I just think it's crazy how
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  how much you have to walk to
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  get your 10,000 steps.
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  Like that four mile is
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  basically exactly almost 10,000 steps.
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  And it takes us like, I don't know,
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  an hour and a half to an
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  hour 45 often with the
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  doodles just to walk around.
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  So yeah, I mean, I've been getting,
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  my average step count has
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  been like almost like
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  15,000 since being in California.
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  Yeah,
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  we have a loop around our
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  neighborhood that's exactly 800 meters.
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  And that's my walk the dog during work.
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  I just go and do it once.
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  It takes a long time to get to 10,000.
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  And we, uh,
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  we put this challenge for
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  ourselves for the month of
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  July where we're running a mile a day.
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  So we're also trying to get our,
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  our mile wet,
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  whether it's in a wad and
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  it's just accumulating,
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  or we might do intervals or
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  just go for like a mile jog.
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  I don't know if I'll like
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  really test my mile.
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  I've been doing more like
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  jogging around this,
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  the neighborhood for the most part,
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  but I think by the end I'll
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  try to actually test it.
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  That's cool.
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  Well, no, I briefly, we talked last night,
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  Jamie, you're watching the bear.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  We started that.
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  And what are your impressions of the bear?
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  I like it.
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  It's good.
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  You're right.
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  They're like short, quick,
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  really interesting episodes.
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  It draws you in right away.
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  I'm curious to see where the
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  story goes for sure.
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  We just made it to the second season.
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  Yeah.
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  Second season was amazing.
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  Third season is very
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  artistic and less story movement.
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  And we're not done.
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  We have one episode to go
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  from season three.
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  But it's it's one of my
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  favorite shows from the
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  last five years for sure.
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  Maybe my favorite show from
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  the last five years.
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  But it's it's so good.
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  And I love it.
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  So I'm glad you jumped into that.
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  Good suggestion.
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  Well,
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  I put a ton of miles on my car and
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  went to the beautiful state
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  of Michigan who they need
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  so much road work done.
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  The minute you cross the
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  Ohio border into Michigan,
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  your car just starts bouncing around.
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  You better have good shocks
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  and good tires.
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  That's all I got to say.
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  Yep, so many potholes.
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  That's why we get all the
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  memes that are like, my roads.
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  Like, they're bad.
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  And I don't know.
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  They put tons of funding to it.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  We literally have
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  construction on every single highway.
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  You can't get out of Lansing
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  without touching construction.
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  And...
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  it's, I don't know.
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  It doesn't even help.
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  They're just,
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  maybe the construction is
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  what caused the problems.
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  Then like a whole new set of
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  roads gets just used and
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  destroyed and then come
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  back to that and that gets destroyed.
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  I don't know.
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  Yeah.
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  So we went to Lansing and
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  kept on going all the way
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  out to Lake Michigan.
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  We have Lake Erie here in Ohio.
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  Thought we were cool with that.
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  Man, Lake Michigan smokes Lake Erie.
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  Smokes it.
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  It is so beautiful.
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  It was so gorgeous.
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  We get to Muskegon,
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  and it was miles and miles
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  and miles of beach.
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  Yes.
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  And it was gorgeous.
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  Just driving through there was a treat.
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  Yep.
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  So we went there to the
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  Fresh Coast Fit Fest to
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  hang out with Jamie and her
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  crew as they were competing
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  at the Fit Fest,
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  as well as get some footage of the event,
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  all of that stuff.
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  So I scrambled today.
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  I lost internet for a period of time.
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  But I scrambled today to put
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  together like a minute 30
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  quick highlight reel of event one.
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  This is by no means a finished product.
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  It was just something to
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  share with the crowd here
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  tonight to show where we've
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  been and how cool it is out
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  there on Lake Michigan.
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  So without further ado, I'm going to play.
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  It's a minute 47,
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  and then we'll be right back after that.
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  How'd that one go?
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  I thought it was good.
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  Yeah, it died.
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  A long time in the water.
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  But overall, really good workout fun.
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  Everybody's out there just
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  trying to get it done.
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  Yeah,
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  now you get a little cool off before
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  you go to vent too, huh?
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  That's right.
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  There's Fit Fest or Fresh Coast Fit Fest.
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  Yeah.
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  Just so everyone's clear watching that,
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  everything synchro was at
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  the top because I'm sure if
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  people watch some of that stuff,
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  they'll be like, oh, that was terrible.
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  It was terrible burpees.
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  That was terrible squats.
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  Yeah, it didn't matter.
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  You could squat fast.
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  You could burpee fast as
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  long as you stood tall
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  together on the raft and if
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  you held the dumbbell up.
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  at the top was, um, synchro a little bit,
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  a bit different, but.
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  So let me ask you doing
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  these movements in sand.
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  I watched so many people on
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  thrusters topple over onto
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  their back because they lost,
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  they lost their balance or
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  whatever in the sand.
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  Did you ever feel that way?
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  No, no.
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  Cause you're an athlete.
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  I mean, I feel like for one,
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  I feel like having to like
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  basically hold overhead,
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  like show control overhead
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  to make sure you're all synchro.
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  I guess if you were trying
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  to go really fast and yank it down,
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  you could get wobbly.
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  I was constantly like holding there.
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  So I feel like I was moving
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  slow enough that I didn't feel.
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  And it's actually nice to
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  like dig your feet in like down.
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  So you almost like have like lifters on.
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  Just dig your toes in and
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  then your heels are up.
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  So I feel like once I was
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  where I wanted to be, I was fine.
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  And that workout was however
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  many dumbbell thrusters,
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  single-arm dumbbell thrusters,
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  burpees to start.
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  Then they did the raft thing.
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  Then again with burpees and
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  dumbbell thrusters.
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  Backwards, yep.
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  So.
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  Yep.
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  But it was beautiful.
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  And it was long.
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  It was a long swim.
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  They actually moved the last buoy in.
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  Yeah.
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  before the first group got to it.
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  Cause it was taking so long to go around.
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  Yeah.
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  What was the distance?
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  It was supposed to be 500 meters.
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  Um,
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  I'm guessing it was closer to maybe
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  like 400.
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  Um,
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  But, yeah,
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  that doesn't surprise me that
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  they had to move it in.
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  When they released it, I was like,
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  this is going to take a long time.
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  And it was absolutely perfect conditions.
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  So I'm curious, like,
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  who tested it and what conditions?
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  Because it's usually really choppy.
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  And, I mean, like,
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  I sort of feel like that's
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  why they had to bring in the raft.
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  Because almost every year we
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  have issues with somebody, like,
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  needing to grab onto something,
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  needing something like it can,
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  it's usually freezing and the weather is,
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  it was actually really nice.
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  The water warmed up a lot.
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  So like it didn't take your
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  breath away as much as in
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  past years and you were
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  holding onto that.
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  So you were able to recover, but yeah,
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  you were in the water for like,
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  I don't know.
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  I think the fastest teams
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  were like nine minutes.
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  A lot were like 12 to 14 minutes.
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  Yeah.
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  And it was a,
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  it was a long run down the
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  beach before you enter the,
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  in that deep sand with the
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  raft then you entered and
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  then you went around that
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  500 meters and again they
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  brought in the last buoy to
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  probably make it 450 yeah
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  yeah somewhere around there
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  but yeah um but you could
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  still stand about three
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  quarters of the way out to the buoys yeah
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  Yeah.
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  And that was nice.
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  Like once you were,
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  you were just so tired
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  coming back in that finally
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  when you could put your
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  feet down and just pull that thing,
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  it was way better.
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  Yeah.
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  The fastest technique I saw
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  was two women were on the raft together,
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  each using one arm on each side.
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  And there was the third
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  person was on the back, like a kickboard,
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  just kicking like crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  And they, they,
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  they finished first in the
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  women's heat by a good margin.
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  Um,
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  But yeah, it was awesome to witness.
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  It was a great event.
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  Man, that sand is thick.
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  Like it is a workout alone,
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  just moving up and down
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  through the heats of people.
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  My gosh,
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  my hips and my calves and my
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  ankles on fire.
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  Yeah.
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  My right calf is like the
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  only thing that's pretty sore.
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  So it must have been pushing
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  extra hard with my right leg.
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  But yeah,
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  you walk back and forth on that
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  sand back to your tent,
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  back to like tons of times
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  just to watch a heat go.
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  You're just constantly in that sand.
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  Was it a two-day comp or one?
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  And how many events were there?
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  So it's a one-day comp.
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  There's two days of it
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  because RX is Saturday.
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  Scaled was today.
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  And actually, it was stormy today.
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  It ended up being kind of nice,
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  but Veronica says in here
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  she went over there and
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  they had a red flag out for the water.
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  So it was probably really choppy.
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  Thank God we didn't have to
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  deal with that yesterday.
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  I wonder if they moved the
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  buoys in even more for today.
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  I'm curious if Veronica
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  actually watched the swim
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  event or saw any of that, how that went.
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  Nicole Sherman says,
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  did your team switch
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  positions with the raft in the water?
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  Yes, we did.
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  Well, yeah, we, so we were,
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  we wanted to do two people out front,
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  like almost like
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  one arm and like pulling it
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  and one person at the back.
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  Um,
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  and we did that for at least half the
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  way I'd say about,
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  and then realized that you
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  could see the other teams
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  like ahead of you that were
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  just moving faster with two
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  on or even three on.
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  And we're like, okay,
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  we have to switch something up.
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  So we did switch like three times.
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  Um, I got up like double our
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  double armed while Mel was
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  at the front and Caitlin was at the back.
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  And then Mel and I switched
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  those positions.
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  Caitlin pretty much always
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  stayed at the back kicking.
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  But yeah, we tried a few different things.
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  The funniest conversation I
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  heard all day was
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  While switching positions,
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  you ended up in very
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  precarious situations as well.
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  Butt to face, face to butt,
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  whatever you want to call it.
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  Front to back, things like that.
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  But yeah, that was hilarious.
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  Veronica had me laughing so hard.
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  Only she would be like
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  watching us and kind of like, I mean,
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  she's behind us in the water watching us.
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  Like I, I don't even know.
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  Like I'm just moving along.
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  Like I'm not looking at
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  where I'm at or even paying
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  attention that I'm
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  basically on top of my
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  partner on the raft.
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  Like I don't, it doesn't, I'm just moving.
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  You're there to win.
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  We all know.
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  So that was the first event.
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  The second one was crazy.
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  We've talked about a lot.
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  You've been battling a shoulder injury.
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  You say you can't snatch.
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  You were the strong snatcher on your team.
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  And you snatched 135 power
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  five times fairly easily on
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  sand on a piece of plywood.
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  does that give you more
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  confidence going into the games?
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  No.
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  I mean, I don't,
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  I don't know that that's
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  like a common weight.
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  Like they could pull
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  something like this went to one 55 in it.
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  And there will be people
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  that can hit fit one 55 at the game.
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  So it doesn't matter that I can do one 35.
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  Like,
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  It totally depends on if
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  it's a ladder or how it is.
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  You looked snappier than
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  I've ever seen you snatch.
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  That's good.
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  And it was on a piece of plywood and sand.
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  And you yourself saw Rich snatch,
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  and it was not easy for him
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  in these conditions.
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  Yeah.
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  So kudos to you for that.
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  And then, oh, yeah,
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  we have to talk about this.
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  Plus your judge was dancing
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  while you were doing that.
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  He was getting after it.
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  He was having a good time.
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  Yeah.
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  And we're not talking like
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  keeping it in here.
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  Like he was all over the place dancing.
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  He was having a good time.
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  He was keeping me distracted
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  from the pain I was feeling.
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  So it was good.
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  And then you guys ended up, um,
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  So that, Kenneth,
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  is Jamie's GoFundMe shirt,
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  whatever you want to call it.
• 17:31
  That is her fundraiser to
• 17:34
  help her get to the games.
• 17:36
  There's a t-shirt too.
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  And will Thick Boy be
• 17:39
  selling it or are you selling it?
• 17:40
  Yes.
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  Well, yeah.
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  I guess technically I'm selling it.
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  Okay.
• 17:47
  It looks really good.
• 17:48
  I love it.
• 17:49
  Thanks.
• 17:51
  Did you design it?
• 17:53
  No, Mark put it together for me.
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  Looks great.
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  He did a good job.
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  So where can they get it?
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  I'll post it, like a picture of it,
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  on my Instagram and
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  Facebook so people can just message me.
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  Okay.
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  Or if you see it here, just message her.
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  Yeah, post in the comments.
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  Like, comment, subscribe.
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  Yeah, do that too.
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  All that stuff.
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  And then you guys ended up podiuming.
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  We did.
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  But even more impressive,
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  you finished seventh overall.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So not just Masters,
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  but overall seventh place.
• 18:39
  Yeah.
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  Masters really showed up.
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  The first three teams in
• 18:44
  Masters were in the top seven overall.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, it was a pretty competitive field.
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  I mean, Rich's team was first in Masters,
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  second overall.
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  Not surprising, but yeah,
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  Masters just was competitive this year.
• 19:00
  That's awesome.
• 19:03
  Ronica says she needs 10,
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  and I think she can message you tomorrow,
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  probably at the gym.
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah, it does look cool,
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  and I'm definitely getting
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  myself one of them.
• 19:16
  Speaking of Masters, we'll jump ahead.
• 19:18
  It became official this week
• 19:20
  that we got our full access
• 19:22
  to cover the Masters games
• 19:24
  behind the scenes.
• 19:25
  Team is put together, I think.
• 19:28
  And now we're just ironing
• 19:30
  out some final details.
• 19:32
  But super stoked to be able to do that.
• 19:35
  And now that I'm hearing all
• 19:36
  the people that are coming,
• 19:37
  I think we're going to be
• 19:38
  able to put on a pretty
• 19:39
  cool little documentary
• 19:42
  behind the scenes.
• 19:43
  So I think that's going to be
• 19:48
  And there's Holly in the chat.
• 19:49
  And I think we're going to
• 19:51
  get to meet Holly in person
• 19:52
  for the first time.
• 19:53
  She's going to come.
• 19:55
  We're trying.
• 19:57
  We're trying.
• 19:58
  We need our stats and info
• 20:00
  girl right there on hand to
• 20:03
  be able to like,
• 20:04
  give us all the info we need.
• 20:05
  Right.
• 20:08
  So she says she hopes so.
• 20:12
  So.
• 20:12
  We're super stoked for that.
• 20:16
  So let's get into the elite
• 20:18
  CrossFit games.
• 20:21
  Dave Castro was at it some
• 20:22
  more this week with all of
• 20:24
  his interviews.
• 20:24
  He did take a couple-day break, apparently,
• 20:26
  to go to Yosemite with his family.
• 20:29
  But it was back at it,
• 20:30
  and we had no cell service
• 20:33
  over the weekend.
• 20:34
  That's the last thing about Fresh Coast.
• 20:36
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  Couldn't even communicate
• 20:38
  with Jamie to let her know
• 20:39
  we had the table reservation she needed.
• 20:42
  All that kind of stuff.
• 20:43
  It was so crazy.
• 20:45
  So I am behind on these
• 20:47
  athlete interviews.
• 20:48
  I think I have three or four to do.
• 20:50
  I think he's come out with a
• 20:51
  couple since I even... Lexi
• 20:54
  Neely just came out before
• 20:55
  I came downstairs.
• 20:58
  So, yeah.
• 21:00
  I've got four to go.
• 21:02
  BKG, Lexi...
• 21:08
  I can't remember her name now,
• 21:10
  but I crammed a few in today.
• 21:12
  So we know event one.
• 21:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:17
  Run-swim.
• 21:17
  Event one is run-swim.
• 21:20
  And it also came out in some
• 21:21
  interviews this week that
• 21:22
  those predictions of
• 21:24
  distance appear to be right.
• 21:27
  Dave said that with his own mouth.
• 21:29
  And if you reverse engineer it,
• 21:31
  it probably means no fins.
• 21:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:36
  So, thoughts on the run-swim event.
• 21:40
  It appears to be a
• 21:41
  three-and-a-half-mile run,
• 21:43
  500 to 800-meter swim.
• 21:46
  I think it's closer to 800
• 21:47
  for the half-mile, so 800 meters.
• 21:53
  Do you think it's as much of
• 21:54
  a run as a swim,
• 21:55
  or it's a lot more towards the run?
• 21:58
  I think it's more towards the run.
• 22:02
  I think...
• 22:09
  think you can make up a lot
• 22:10
  of ground on the swim if
• 22:12
  it's 800 meters that that's
• 22:16
  uh for these swimmers
• 22:18
  probably a 13 minute open
• 22:21
  water swim a 5k is what 17 to 20 minutes
• 22:30
  if it's a proper 5k they're
• 22:33
  going to be 19 to 22 at
• 22:35
  least yeah no no one's
• 22:36
  running a 17 minute maybe
• 22:38
  like I don't like no that's
• 22:41
  not going into a swim I was
• 22:43
  I was I guess I was
• 22:44
  referencing last year's ish
• 22:48
  yeah I think I think most
• 22:49
  of the girls would be
• 22:52
  low twenties to around 22 and a half ish.
• 22:56
  Like Ricky would probably
• 22:57
  have the fastest 5k.
• 23:00
  He could probably do a 17.
• 23:01
  I don't think he will.
• 23:02
  I mean,
• 23:03
  he might want to go close to it so
• 23:05
  that he can get a lead
• 23:06
  going into the water, knowing that,
• 23:09
  you know,
• 23:09
  James Sprague and the cow ski
• 23:12
  and others will be a great swimmers.
• 23:16
  Cause I don't think Ricky is
• 23:17
  known to be like the best swimmer,
• 23:19
  but he can definitely get
• 23:20
  into the water first and at least
• 23:22
  recover probably better than
• 23:24
  other people can uh spin is
• 23:28
  the king with research so
• 23:30
  and he is it kudos to him
• 23:33
  and apparently he's dead on
• 23:35
  but I didn't I have not
• 23:36
  seen anything about this
• 23:37
  carolyn have you I didn't
• 23:42
  see that no I haven't seen any of that
• 23:46
  again there's a handful I
• 23:48
  have not got to yet um and
• 23:50
  I went to spin right before
• 23:52
  we went on here see if
• 23:53
  anything broke um but yeah
• 23:57
  I'm all caught up on the
• 23:58
  interviews except for the
• 24:00
  the last one that just got
• 24:01
  posted and nothing was said
• 24:02
  about two run swim events okay
• 24:10
  The research also shows there are snakes.
• 24:12
  I know one person actually
• 24:14
  went out and did the run
• 24:16
  and reported back that they
• 24:19
  saw snakes all over the run path.
• 24:24
  As an athlete,
• 24:25
  does that even come into
• 24:26
  your mind when you're
• 24:27
  running or swimming?
• 24:33
  Swimming, yes, it comes into my mind.
• 24:34
  I've done several triathlons
• 24:36
  and that kind of stuff.
• 24:40
  I'm not overly comfortable in the water.
• 24:43
  Like that, that stuff stresses me out.
• 24:45
  Like I, I wouldn't just go to a,
• 24:49
  like a lake like that by
• 24:50
  myself and go swim around in it.
• 24:53
  Like I'll sign up for things
• 24:54
  like triathlons cause
• 24:55
  there's 50 other people in
• 24:57
  there with me and hopefully
• 24:59
  something gets someone else
• 25:00
  other than me.
• 25:01
  But like, I don't know.
• 25:03
  I wouldn't,
• 25:04
  I wouldn't feel comfortable
• 25:05
  doing like ocean swims personally.
• 25:08
  Um,
• 25:09
  And like, yeah, I don't know.
• 25:10
  Just, you know, leeches, anything in lakes,
• 25:13
  like leeches.
• 25:15
  Yeah.
• 25:18
  Oh my gosh.
• 25:19
  All the open water swims I've done.
• 25:20
  I've never encountered a leech.
• 25:23
  Well,
• 25:24
  they're all over our lakes in Michigan.
• 25:25
  So I'm probably similar to you.
• 25:28
  Like on the run,
• 25:29
  I probably wouldn't think about it.
• 25:31
  Um, if I saw something, just keep going.
• 25:33
  You're so focused in the water.
• 25:35
  I'm less comfortable.
• 25:37
  The fact that you're with a
• 25:38
  lot of people just.
• 25:39
  hopefully those creatures
• 25:41
  stay away from the mass people.
• 25:44
  Um, yeah, but I mean,
• 25:47
  I think when you're in the race,
• 25:48
  you don't think about it
• 25:49
  and I don't think it'll
• 25:50
  play a factor at all.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:54
  I, you know,
• 25:55
  I was talking to Bethany on
• 25:56
  Friday and she said that
• 25:57
  usually the animal is more
• 25:58
  afraid of the human than
• 25:59
  the human is of the animal.
• 26:01
  And with all those people, um,
• 26:04
  most of those animals will
• 26:05
  be scurrying off to another place.
• 26:09
  But if you're out there, like you said,
• 26:10
  Jamie,
• 26:10
  if you're out there running by yourself,
• 26:12
  sure,
• 26:12
  you're going to encounter a lot of that.
• 26:15
  Yeah.
• 26:16
  But if it's a mass start of 80 people,
• 26:19
  you're probably less likely to see that.
• 26:21
  Absolutely.
• 26:25
  Do you guys have predictions
• 26:27
  for male and female in that event?
• 26:32
  Probably to you.
• 26:37
  I could see James doing
• 26:40
  really well in that one.
• 26:41
  That was a good pick.
• 26:46
  I want to take Gracie.
• 26:50
  How is she at running?
• 26:51
  I don't know.
• 26:55
  There's been a few
• 26:56
  interviews where there's
• 26:57
  some swimmers out there.
• 26:59
  Kato today was I think trying for
• 27:03
  like years ago for, uh,
• 27:04
  Olympic trials in swimming.
• 27:07
  Um, you obviously have Walton.
• 27:10
  That's a great swimmer.
• 27:12
  Like someone like Haley
• 27:13
  Adams can get into the
• 27:14
  front with the run and
• 27:15
  she's always done well.
• 27:16
  Rolf has always done well in
• 27:17
  swimming workouts.
• 27:18
  Same with, um, Emma Lawson.
• 27:21
  I think like some of like those girls with,
• 27:23
  with Walton will be up there for sure.
• 27:25
  Um,
• 27:28
  on the men's side.
• 27:29
  I mean, I think Brent always does well,
• 27:30
  James with that combination, but yeah,
• 27:36
  it'll be interesting how
• 27:37
  much each weighs onto the, yeah,
• 27:40
  onto the event.
• 27:41
  Well, Pat finished up 20.
• 27:44
  I think so.
• 27:44
  I don't think he's that bad of a swimmer.
• 27:46
  I think like the one year he
• 27:47
  cramped up and he's had some bad luck.
• 27:49
  Like the one year was the, uh,
• 27:51
  the kayak and he just
• 27:53
  couldn't figure that out.
• 27:54
  Like he works on his swimming,
• 27:55
  but I don't think he's like a,
• 27:59
  like the top end of the field,
• 28:01
  but he could still, I think do well.
• 28:02
  He's not a bad runner.
• 28:03
  He's a good runner.
• 28:04
  He's a pretty good runner.
• 28:05
  And I think he'll, he'll be fine.
• 28:08
  I think so too.
• 28:08
  I think he'll be top 20.
• 28:09
  Yeah.
• 28:10
  I think,
• 28:10
  I think Sprague has shown that he's,
• 28:14
  he's the new Brent,
• 28:15
  like Brent won these events.
• 28:17
  And now James is just a
• 28:18
  younger version of that
• 28:20
  with maybe even better swimming ability.
• 28:23
  Yeah.
• 28:24
  um so I like the james pick
• 28:27
  for that one I would say I
• 28:29
  want I want to pick gracie
• 28:31
  but I don't I don't think
• 28:32
  her tia's run is probably
• 28:35
  better than gracie's by
• 28:37
  further by a greater
• 28:39
  variant than vice versa I
• 28:42
  agree yeah like I expect
• 28:44
  like the runners in the
• 28:45
  front to be like tia hayley adams rolf
• 28:49
  will be towards the front.
• 28:50
  I don't think Gracie will be
• 28:52
  matching their speed going into the water,
• 28:54
  but she can make up a lot of ground,
• 28:55
  I'm assuming, in the water,
• 28:56
  but where will she be entering?
• 28:58
  That'll be the factor.
• 29:01
  Yeah, and for that,
• 29:02
  it's swimming under fatigue,
• 29:04
  and Tia's going to be fine with that.
• 29:08
  And Tia actually has, like,
• 29:11
  of all the swimmers,
• 29:12
  when you look at her stroke,
• 29:14
  it is picture-perfect.
• 29:17
  So I don't think Gracie will
• 29:19
  be able to make up that much difference.
• 29:24
  Uh, so, uh,
• 29:26
  Larry Young says doing anything
• 29:29
  close to Olympic level
• 29:30
  makes me think you might be
• 29:31
  a sneaky pick for the ladies.
• 29:33
  Yeah, that's what I'd like to,
• 29:36
  but that's really damn good at swimming.
• 29:42
  yeah like kato who was a
• 29:45
  good swimmer like I don't
• 29:46
  see her being close to them
• 29:48
  on the run but she may be
• 29:51
  like I think she'll be
• 29:52
  she'll have a top half
• 29:53
  finish in this workout but
• 29:54
  I don't think she'll
• 29:54
  threaten for a top three in
• 29:56
  that workout how are um
• 30:01
  laura and gabby in the water
• 30:07
  think they're fine I think
• 30:09
  they're probably upper
• 30:11
  upper quarter if I remember
• 30:13
  like laura does does well
• 30:15
  in those events yeah um
• 30:19
  yeah I think they'll be
• 30:21
  fine I don't think they're
• 30:22
  gonna win and I don't
• 30:24
  really know gabby I don't
• 30:25
  remember her finishes but
• 30:27
  laura I remember her
• 30:28
  finishing well and like the
• 30:31
  lake swims and she's a
• 30:34
  decent runner oh yeah
• 30:38
  They'll be fine.
• 30:44
  Laura was eighth in 2021 with the kayak.
• 30:47
  I don't know how much she
• 30:48
  made up maybe on the kayak,
• 30:50
  but there was a mile swim in that one,
• 30:54
  so she's got to be a good swimmer.
• 31:00
  And Gabby, I don't think, did as well.
• 31:02
  Who was Gabby in 2021?
• 31:05
  Gabby is 22nd.
• 31:07
  But again,
• 31:08
  it's hard to know whether there
• 31:09
  was the kayak or the swim
• 31:12
  part because some people
• 31:13
  really struggled on the
• 31:14
  kayak and had no idea how to move it.
• 31:18
  So that one's hard to tell.
• 31:20
  And then I think the 2022
• 31:22
  swim event was a lot more
• 31:23
  dictated by the skier than the swim.
• 31:27
  Like if you could just
• 31:28
  survive and make it to the end,
• 31:31
  it became just the calories thing.
• 31:33
  I don't think we've had a
• 31:35
  pure sprint in a while.
• 31:37
  That's hard to know for the
• 31:39
  rinse and repeat because
• 31:39
  there's only five athletes.
• 31:41
  Again,
• 31:42
  the echo bike plays a role in that too.
• 31:45
  No.
• 31:47
  Swim and stuff was the five people.
• 31:51
  Rinse and repeat was... I
• 31:56
  don't know what... That's
• 31:57
  from our staff and information person.
• 31:59
  Laura third beat Tia fourth
• 32:01
  in the rinse and repeat one.
• 32:03
  was rinse and repeat because
• 32:05
  it was swim and ski was the
• 32:06
  22 right that's what it was
• 32:08
  called yeah yeah and that's
• 32:12
  more and that's more with
• 32:12
  the skier yeah that's a
• 32:16
  2022 one with the skier and
• 32:17
  then swimming stuff is the
• 32:19
  one at the 2020 games with
• 32:22
  five athletes which laura wasn't there
• 32:27
  Okay.
• 32:29
  Rinse and repeat was the swim ski.
• 32:31
  Yeah.
• 32:32
  Yeah.
• 32:32
  So that would have been,
• 32:33
  she got third because of
• 32:34
  the rower or the ski.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:37
  I mean, she's probably a good swimmer too.
• 32:39
  Like, yeah, but not as elite as.
• 32:44
  Yeah.
• 32:44
  I think she's upper, upper tier swimmer.
• 32:46
  Just not Tia Gracie swimmer.
• 32:51
  So there we go.
• 32:54
  Um,
• 32:54
  the other thing we learned this week is
• 32:55
  Chad has event seven right
• 32:56
  before the cut.
• 32:58
  Uh,
• 32:58
  so you're going to be doing step ups
• 33:00
  for your life.
• 33:01
  That is crazy.
• 33:02
  I don't, I mean,
• 33:08
  I kind of like it cause
• 33:09
  he's making it matter.
• 33:10
  Like he's going to make them push it.
• 33:12
  Um, but man, Oh,
• 33:15
  you're going to be sore the
• 33:15
  next day pushing that hard.
• 33:18
  And we don't know what the twist is.
• 33:20
  Like we don't know.
• 33:24
  So,
• 33:25
  and Dave did say that the twist is not
• 33:27
  the fact that it's the
• 33:29
  workout before the cut.
• 33:31
  Cause someone asked if that was the twist,
• 33:32
  whether it was just the
• 33:33
  workout before the cut and he said, no,
• 33:35
  that's not the, the, um, the twist,
• 33:38
  but didn't say whether
• 33:39
  there was an additional movement,
• 33:41
  whether the twist is just
• 33:42
  having multiple boxes and
• 33:44
  moving your way down or step overs.
• 33:47
  Um,
• 33:47
  so we still don't have that information,
• 33:49
  but.
• 33:52
  I like the fact that it's before the cuts.
• 33:53
  I think it puts pressure on the athletes.
• 33:57
  And everyone will get to do it.
• 33:59
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  Is it Kyron Souza?
• 34:05
  His first name.
• 34:08
  He did it.
• 34:10
  Like him and Bruno did it recently.
• 34:16
  Uh,
• 34:17
  and they did the whole thing and
• 34:18
  apparently they went pretty hard at it.
• 34:21
  And he said that it was fine doing it.
• 34:24
  It was a couple of days
• 34:24
  later that he really hurt.
• 34:27
  Well,
• 34:28
  they only have one day to work out
• 34:30
  after it.
• 34:31
  And like,
• 34:31
  if you're going to be most sore on Monday,
• 34:33
  it is what it is.
• 34:34
  You just got to get through Sunday.
• 34:37
  Yeah.
• 34:38
  So what do you guys think
• 34:38
  about the outlandish, uh,
• 34:41
  comments of people saying
• 34:42
  they should cut it in the
• 34:43
  middle of like do the cuts
• 34:45
  in the middle of the
• 34:46
  workout or if you're the
• 34:48
  fastest to a certain like
• 34:51
  if you're the fastest 10 to
• 34:52
  500 you get to stop and no
• 34:57
  I don't I think you have to
• 34:58
  complete it yeah if you're
• 34:59
  going to do this workout
• 35:00
  everyone needs to do all
• 35:01
  thousand step ups like
• 35:02
  everyone has to and I
• 35:04
  realize some people are
• 35:04
  going to be done but like
• 35:06
  you can't I everyone just
• 35:09
  needs to do it all
• 35:12
  Vi asks,
• 35:14
  are we hoping that it's stepovers or no?
• 35:18
  I don't think it's going to be stepovers.
• 35:20
  I think CrossFit is
• 35:22
  old-fashioned Dave saying,
• 35:26
  we saw what you did in quarterfinals.
• 35:28
  We penalized you for it.
• 35:30
  Now we're going to put it in
• 35:31
  the games to make sure you
• 35:32
  do it as we prescribed.
• 35:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:36
  I just think it's a
• 35:37
  completely different workout.
• 35:38
  If it was,
• 35:39
  if it's step overs a hundred percent,
• 35:41
  like that extension at the
• 35:42
  top of the box is way
• 35:46
  different and uses your legs a lot more.
• 35:51
  Um,
• 35:52
  obviously it's a lot easier to judge the,
• 35:56
  um, the step overs,
• 35:58
  but I have a hard time
• 36:01
  thinking that it would
• 36:01
  change to that point of doing a,
• 36:04
  the full movement, like different, um,
• 36:07
  but even just look at some
• 36:09
  people practicing the step ups,
• 36:10
  like they have a soft knee,
• 36:12
  like they're stepping up
• 36:13
  and you watch a lot of the
• 36:14
  videos of the athletes and
• 36:16
  they're standing up on the one hip,
• 36:17
  but their other knee is
• 36:18
  still kind of soft every single time.
• 36:22
  And they should know right
• 36:23
  now that you have to
• 36:24
  clearly stand up and you
• 36:25
  can't be leaning on one side.
• 36:26
  And almost all the videos
• 36:27
  that I'm watching of the athletes,
• 36:28
  they're still tapping and being soft.
• 36:30
  So I don't know what they're
• 36:31
  going to do because they're
• 36:33
  still not doing a step up
• 36:34
  correctly in my opinion.
• 36:37
  Yes,
• 36:37
  Sarah Cooper says so many athletes
• 36:38
  posting them doing step-ups
• 36:40
  now and still not hitting full extension.
• 36:43
  But isn't it typical, Dave,
• 36:45
  that he would look at a
• 36:46
  problem instead of saying, hey,
• 36:48
  we're going to fix it by
• 36:50
  making it easier.
• 36:51
  No,
• 36:52
  we're going to run into the problem and
• 36:54
  we're going to do it till
• 36:55
  we get it right.
• 36:59
  Yeah, I could see that mindset.
• 37:00
  Yeah.
• 37:04
  Larry Young said, personally,
• 37:05
  I thought it was boring,
• 37:06
  but with cuts after now,
• 37:08
  I feel like that's enough,
• 37:09
  even without a twist.
• 37:12
  Yeah,
• 37:12
  who's going to want to leave the
• 37:13
  stadium at that point when
• 37:16
  you're kind of waiting to
• 37:17
  see which athlete is going
• 37:18
  to be falling behind and
• 37:20
  possibly losing a lot of
• 37:21
  points or getting cuts?
• 37:22
  You're not going to want to not tune in.
• 37:25
  I mean,
• 37:26
  you might want to tune in at the end,
• 37:27
  but still,
• 37:28
  I think it engages more of the
• 37:31
  fans to want to stay and watch.
• 37:33
  knowing that there's a lot
• 37:34
  on the line in that particular workout.
• 37:38
  There was a point in one of
• 37:40
  the interviews where he
• 37:41
  said that they try to make
• 37:44
  everything
• 37:45
  spectator-friendly at the games
• 37:46
  by the way they move things,
• 37:48
  but sometimes the test is
• 37:51
  more important than being
• 37:52
  spectator-friendly.
• 37:55
  And he said, so in small instances,
• 38:00
  you have to do the test the
• 38:01
  way you need to do the test.
• 38:05
  And I think that that's what Chad is.
• 38:07
  He wants a mental test.
• 38:09
  You put it by the cuts.
• 38:10
  It eats even a bigger mental test.
• 38:12
  Who's willing to die for
• 38:15
  points on that last event
• 38:16
  before the cuts.
• 38:18
  And it's just grunt work.
• 38:19
  It's not,
• 38:20
  it's not about technique or skill
• 38:22
  or who's willing to lay it down.
• 38:24
  So.
• 38:27
  Yeah.
• 38:31
  Wouldn't it be crazy if the twist was,
• 38:32
  there is no twist.
• 38:38
  I don't,
• 38:39
  I think there's going to be something.
• 38:40
  I don't think he would do that.
• 38:41
  I don't think he would say
• 38:42
  that and not have something.
• 38:45
  Yeah.
• 38:47
  You know, Dave.
• 38:48
  Yeah.
• 38:51
  So, uh, did you see the,
• 38:54
  the one interview where
• 38:55
  someone asked him if he was
• 38:56
  going to bring back the cornrows?
• 38:58
  No.
• 38:59
  And he said that he decided that one,
• 39:02
  when he turned 40,
• 39:04
  he was done with those types of things.
• 39:07
  That as a 40-year-old and up,
• 39:09
  you have to just be more
• 39:11
  serious and move on.
• 39:15
  And I thought that was very interesting.
• 39:24
  So...
• 39:27
  Did you see the comment
• 39:28
  about the marathon?
• 39:28
  It was on the BKG interview
• 39:30
  and I haven't seen the full thing yet,
• 39:31
  but I just saw the spin
• 39:33
  version of it where BKG
• 39:35
  said that the marathon row
• 39:36
  was the worst event he ever
• 39:38
  did at the games.
• 39:40
  And Dave said that, well,
• 39:43
  if I'm still in this position,
• 39:45
  it is coming back at some point.
• 39:49
  That's funny.
• 39:51
  You missed that one.
• 39:51
  You weren't there yet, right?
• 39:53
  Carolyn, or were you?
• 39:54
  No, I had missed out.
• 39:56
  That year was very close to qualifying.
• 39:58
  And when I saw it,
• 39:59
  I was at the event watching.
• 40:01
  And I was like, oh, man,
• 40:02
  I'm so glad I'm not doing it.
• 40:05
  You know, I wanted to qualify.
• 40:07
  Seeing that first day,
• 40:08
  that was a hard first day of the games.
• 40:12
  Yeah.
• 40:15
  Yeah.
• 40:15
  Crazy.
• 40:18
  And now everybody's going to
• 40:20
  have to train that row
• 40:21
  every year because he said
• 40:22
  it's coming back at some point.
• 40:24
  So gross.
• 40:27
  It's like my butt can't sit
• 40:28
  on a rower for that long.
• 40:31
  I do a 10K rarely,
• 40:33
  and it hurts me so much
• 40:34
  just to sit down the entire time.
• 40:37
  Yeah, the most I've ever done was a 10K.
• 40:39
  I can't imagine quadrupling
• 40:42
  that plus some.
• 40:44
  I've done the half before in
• 40:47
  2013 when that was programmed.
• 40:50
  One girl from my previous
• 40:52
  gym in my hometown was
• 40:53
  doing the half marathon row.
• 40:57
  She ended up quitting
• 40:58
  halfway and I just kept going.
• 41:00
  So I have done the half one
• 41:02
  and that was brutal.
• 41:06
  The first time I did a 5k,
• 41:07
  like I had blisters all over my fingers.
• 41:10
  Yeah.
• 41:11
  Yeah.
• 41:12
  Yeah.
• 41:13
  I can't even imagine 40,000,
• 41:17
  whatever it is.
• 41:20
  Crazy.
• 41:22
  I liked Emma McQuaid's question about,
• 41:25
  do you think that we're overtraining?
• 41:32
  And his response is,
• 41:33
  I absolutely think you're overtraining.
• 41:35
  That when you're training
• 41:36
  five to six hours a day,
• 41:38
  there's no day at the games
• 41:39
  that is five to six hours.
• 41:43
  And I saw him say in other interviews,
• 41:44
  like the most total workout
• 41:47
  time you're getting,
• 41:47
  unless there's like a
• 41:49
  marathon row or chat, is like an hour.
• 41:53
  And it's broken up into like three events.
• 42:00
  There's always like a 45-minute workout,
• 42:04
  almost always, whether it's the bike,
• 42:07
  a run, a longer run.
• 42:10
  I feel like there's always
• 42:10
  one workout that's 45 minutes.
• 42:13
  But I just feel like people
• 42:15
  exaggerate how much that
• 42:16
  they're actually training.
• 42:17
  Like be like, Oh,
• 42:17
  I'm training six to eight hours,
• 42:19
  but it's like,
• 42:20
  they're at the gym for like that long.
• 42:22
  They're warming up.
• 42:23
  Some of them are chilling on a foam roller,
• 42:26
  having a chat.
• 42:27
  Like they're not actually
• 42:28
  working out for like eight
• 42:31
  hours and they say it like that.
• 42:32
  So people have this
• 42:33
  perception that they're
• 42:34
  training for six to eight hours.
• 42:37
  But I think in reality,
• 42:39
  most athletes are like pure,
• 42:41
  like whether they're lifting,
• 42:43
  cardio or like gymnastics
• 42:45
  skills or med cons,
• 42:46
  like let's call it two to three hours.
• 42:50
  So, um, I, you know, and,
• 42:53
  and people that have other
• 42:55
  jobs condense it into like,
• 42:58
  let's call it two to four hours maybe.
• 43:00
  Um,
• 43:00
  while people that don't have jobs and
• 43:02
  can be at the gym all day,
• 43:04
  just stretch it out so much
• 43:05
  and get work done and physio work,
• 43:09
  et cetera, and cold tubs.
• 43:11
  And they all just say that
• 43:12
  it's their training day, which it is,
• 43:14
  but I don't think they're
• 43:15
  actually training for eight hours.
• 43:17
  That's my opinion, unless I'm wrong.
• 43:22
  I just don't think that they are.
• 43:24
  I can't remember how Emma McQuaid put it,
• 43:26
  but it was like she doesn't
• 43:28
  just train to train anymore.
• 43:30
  She doesn't want to do trash training.
• 43:33
  I can't remember the term she used.
• 43:36
  Trash volume.
• 43:38
  Junk volume, yeah.
• 43:41
  Everything is intentional.
• 43:43
  Everything is for a purpose.
• 43:44
  And each workout has a purpose.
• 43:47
  And she knows what that purpose is.
• 43:50
  Do you feel that's how you train?
• 43:57
  I mean, I feel like sometimes there's just,
• 44:02
  I feel like some of the
• 44:03
  stuff is just volume to get in volume,
• 44:06
  but I,
• 44:06
  but I also need volume and I need to like,
• 44:10
  I need to feel like I did
• 44:15
  three hard workouts and I'm,
• 44:17
  I know I'm going to be sore
• 44:18
  tomorrow and I need to feel
• 44:19
  what that's going to feel like.
• 44:20
  So I don't know.
• 44:21
  I think the purpose sometimes is,
• 44:23
  is for the volume.
• 44:27
  But if it's to build capacity,
• 44:31
  then it still has a purpose.
• 44:34
  Yeah.
• 44:35
  Yeah.
• 44:36
  The example she uses,
• 44:37
  I don't do sandbag cleans
• 44:39
  just to do sandbag cleans.
• 44:42
  There has to be a purpose to it.
• 44:45
  I do a monostructural
• 44:49
  conditioning every day.
• 44:50
  I have a four-week
• 44:52
  weightlifting cycle that's
• 44:53
  a progressive overload
• 44:54
  that's the same weightlifting cycle
• 44:56
  stuff for let's let's say a
• 44:57
  week and then I just
• 44:58
  progressed for the four
• 44:59
  weeks like I start light on
• 45:01
  week one which is almost
• 45:02
  like a deload and I
• 45:03
  normally have a couple
• 45:05
  metcons you call it um and
• 45:07
  some accessory and I would
• 45:08
  say that like there's no
• 45:11
  junk volume everything's
• 45:12
  intentional I try to hit
• 45:13
  essentially every movement once a week
• 45:16
  indifferent uh stimulus so
• 45:18
  it's like if I don't if I
• 45:19
  don't feel like um I'm
• 45:21
  gonna hit this piece with
• 45:23
  intention I just don't do
• 45:25
  it um and I'll be like okay
• 45:27
  well which movement did I
• 45:29
  skip this week I'll make
• 45:30
  sure that I don't skip on
• 45:31
  that movement you know two
• 45:32
  weeks in a row or I'll put
• 45:34
  that piece into another
• 45:35
  part of the week um just so
• 45:38
  I don't get burnt out or
• 45:40
  just doing things just to
• 45:41
  do things and go through
• 45:42
  the motion so I would say
• 45:44
  that I am intentional in
• 45:45
  in my training and I don't
• 45:47
  train as much as, um, my competitors.
• 45:50
  I take two full rest days a
• 45:51
  week for the last few years.
• 45:53
  Um, and I listened to my body very well.
• 46:00
  Yeah,
• 46:00
  she said on our interview with her
• 46:02
  and in this interview with
• 46:03
  Dave that with the injury
• 46:05
  she sustained last year,
• 46:07
  she had to start from scratch.
• 46:10
  And it was a full rebuild in
• 46:11
  the offseason.
• 46:12
  And she learned so much from
• 46:14
  that that her training has
• 46:16
  changed now that she's gone
• 46:18
  through that with much more intention.
• 46:22
  And she says her body feels
• 46:23
  so much better this year
• 46:25
  than it has in years past.
• 46:27
  So I think she's being very
• 46:28
  critical of her own program.
• 46:30
  And not necessarily saying
• 46:32
  that out to the world,
• 46:33
  but that she needed to be
• 46:35
  more intentional with what she was doing.
• 46:41
  And Dave talked about it.
• 46:42
  I don't know with who,
• 46:43
  but referencing Brent and talking about,
• 46:47
  again, volume and how, you know,
• 46:49
  a lot of people talk about
• 46:50
  when they're at the games, you know,
• 46:52
  they're injured and they're
• 46:53
  broken and stuff like that.
• 46:54
  And that's not the case for
• 46:56
  like all the athletes.
• 46:57
  And there are athletes that are, you know,
• 47:00
  doing it the right way or
• 47:02
  not that it's the right way,
• 47:03
  but like really listening
• 47:04
  to their bodies and, uh,
• 47:06
  not pushing through pain or
• 47:08
  anything like that.
• 47:10
  Um,
• 47:11
  so I think this idea that everyone has
• 47:14
  so much volume and is all
• 47:16
  broken puts this person
• 47:17
  like this perception that, you know,
• 47:20
  all the games athletes are
• 47:21
  just dealing with stuff,
• 47:22
  which I don't know.
• 47:23
  I never went to the game
• 47:25
  necessarily like injured or,
• 47:27
  have any like nagging things.
• 47:28
  Cause I feel like I listened
• 47:29
  to my body very well and
• 47:31
  I'm sure plenty of other
• 47:33
  athletes are like that as well too.
• 47:34
  Um,
• 47:36
  so I think I talked about this with the
• 47:38
  teenagers that I was on a call with, um,
• 47:40
  in my little group of mentor mentorship,
• 47:43
  um, and just about, you know,
• 47:45
  listening to your body and
• 47:46
  not feeling like you have
• 47:47
  to do the full volume of, um,
• 47:50
  things that are,
• 47:50
  that they're getting
• 47:51
  programmed from their
• 47:53
  programmers that they're following.
• 47:55
  Cause it can be a lot.
• 47:56
  So.
• 47:57
  I think that's really
• 47:58
  important to just be in
• 47:59
  tune with little stuff so
• 48:01
  that it doesn't become a chronic injury.
• 48:05
  I was wondering if anybody
• 48:06
  else caught this.
• 48:08
  Vi says it was a little wild
• 48:11
  to hear Dave call out
• 48:12
  proven specifically for overtraining,
• 48:15
  given that was the
• 48:16
  accusation from the
• 48:17
  athletes who left them last year.
• 48:21
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  I don't think it was an
• 48:22
  intentional call out.
• 48:23
  I think it was just Dave was like,
• 48:24
  I was at proven last year
• 48:26
  and couldn't believe the
• 48:28
  amount of training they were doing,
• 48:31
  but it does line up with
• 48:34
  things that were coming out
• 48:35
  from other athletes about
• 48:36
  the programming at proven and why,
• 48:40
  why they left.
• 48:45
  The last thing I wanted to
• 48:46
  touch on with the
• 48:47
  interviews is Victoria Campos.
• 48:49
  And her question to Dave was,
• 48:53
  every year when the semifinals,
• 48:54
  you get a free L1 or a free L2.
• 48:58
  And she has her L3 and has
• 49:01
  completed every online
• 49:02
  course that's available.
• 49:04
  And she asked Dave, could she get her L4?
• 49:09
  And Dave said, absolutely.
• 49:11
  Let's do it.
• 49:13
  And he asked her,
• 49:15
  would you be interested in
• 49:18
  trying out for the seminar staff?
• 49:21
  And she said, sure.
• 49:23
  And he said, then we're going to do both.
• 49:26
  And I thought, wow,
• 49:28
  that was a really cool
• 49:29
  interaction that happened
• 49:31
  on an interview.
• 49:34
  Because there was a lot of
• 49:36
  stuff out there that a lot
• 49:37
  of the athletes that are in
• 49:39
  the games don't have their
• 49:40
  L1s or anything like that.
• 49:44
  And in my interview with Saxon this week,
• 49:46
  he talked about that if
• 49:48
  you're competing in a sport
• 49:50
  and there's a class to
• 49:51
  learn about the movements
• 49:52
  and the movement standards,
• 49:54
  wouldn't you want to know
• 49:55
  that information to make
• 49:58
  you better at the thing you do?
• 50:02
  So I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
• 50:04
  And then Mike Halpin put out,
• 50:06
  I think today,
• 50:07
  on his known and knowable
• 50:10
  Instagram account,
• 50:11
  why don't we give badges to
• 50:14
  put on the jerseys of
• 50:15
  athletes who have their L1, L2,
• 50:17
  L3 badges?
• 50:21
  Or they're a country
• 50:22
  champion or they're whatever.
• 50:24
  And instead of just having a
• 50:27
  leader's jersey or the
• 50:29
  medals for champions, why not have L1, L2,
• 50:32
  L3 as an option to put on
• 50:34
  the jerseys and celebrate
• 50:36
  those athletes that
• 50:37
  actually have those things?
• 50:39
  That's an awesome idea.
• 50:40
  Yeah, I like that as well.
• 50:45
  Yeah, he has a couple of recommendations.
• 50:46
  So I actually could pull it up.
• 50:48
  I think I have it close.
• 50:51
  Like I get that they expire, um, over time,
• 50:55
  but I still think that
• 50:56
  while you're at the games that year,
• 50:58
  you still held, you know, that credential,
• 51:01
  um,
• 51:02
  which I think would be a cool thing to
• 51:03
  add.
• 51:10
  I mean,
• 51:10
  it would probably make some people
• 51:11
  who maybe would consider
• 51:13
  letting it lapse would go
• 51:16
  renew it to make sure they
• 51:17
  get that again on their Jersey.
• 51:26
  I'm having a hard time finding it.
• 51:28
  Of course.
• 51:40
  Okay.
• 51:41
  We'll do that another time.
• 51:42
  That's a good idea, though.
• 51:44
  I love it.
• 51:51
  but yeah, it was, it was super cool.
• 51:52
  And he had,
• 51:53
  he had like pictures and
• 51:54
  mock-ups and things like that as well.
• 51:57
  They kind of, uh, showed all that.
• 52:01
  So, uh,
• 52:03
  Holly said sex interview was so good.
• 52:06
  And Larry Young said badge idea rocks.
• 52:10
  Uh, so yeah.
• 52:12
  So there's that.
• 52:14
  So now we're going to get
• 52:14
  into the fun part of the show, hopefully.
• 52:17
  I was watching a podcast,
• 52:19
  a swimming podcast this week,
• 52:21
  not CrossFit.
• 52:23
  And they were talking about,
• 52:24
  if you don't know,
• 52:25
  there's a rivalry between
• 52:26
  the United States and
• 52:27
  Australia when it comes to
• 52:30
  swimming at the international level.
• 52:33
  They're the two best
• 52:34
  swimming countries in the
• 52:36
  world and have been for many, many years.
• 52:41
  A few years back,
• 52:42
  one overzealous fan brought
• 52:44
  a cowbell to a swimming
• 52:47
  meet that was pro-US and
• 52:50
  would ring it all the time.
• 52:53
  There was an interview done
• 52:54
  with an Australian swimmer
• 52:56
  who talked about how much
• 52:58
  she hated the cowbell and
• 53:00
  wants to make the U.S.
• 53:05
  basically eat it and take
• 53:07
  them out at either World
• 53:08
  Championships or the Olympics.
• 53:11
  I'm paraphrasing big time.
• 53:14
  so some of the U S swimmers
• 53:16
  were talking about it
• 53:17
  because NBC is taking that
• 53:20
  rivalry and promoting the
• 53:22
  hell out of it as the
• 53:24
  Olympics are going to only a month away.
• 53:26
  And it's the big rivalry, right?
• 53:28
  And swimming will be
• 53:29
  probably the main event for
• 53:30
  the first week of the games.
• 53:32
  Yeah.
• 53:33
  So I on this podcast,
• 53:36
  it was two former swimmers
• 53:38
  talking about how, yes,
• 53:40
  there is a rivalry between
• 53:42
  them and Australia,
• 53:43
  but it's a friendly rivalry.
• 53:44
  They're actually friends
• 53:45
  away from the pool and they
• 53:48
  hang out together a lot
• 53:49
  because they're in the same
• 53:50
  circles and they do the same things.
• 53:54
  And it's not as heated.
• 53:56
  And the person actually made
• 53:56
  the comment didn't even
• 53:57
  make the Olympics from Australia.
• 54:00
  So she's not even there to like represent.
• 54:02
  Right.
• 54:06
  So my question is,
• 54:10
  is it better when your
• 54:11
  sport has these rivalries and is it,
• 54:15
  is it okay for media to
• 54:17
  pump them up to try to get viewership?
• 54:22
  Oh, sure.
• 54:22
  I mean, that's the exciting,
• 54:24
  that's the exciting stuff.
• 54:25
  People, people love that.
• 54:27
  They, um, whether it's, whether it's like,
• 54:35
  I don't know.
• 54:35
  I mean,
• 54:36
  you got to have either a hero villain.
• 54:39
  Yeah.
• 54:39
  Some type of rivalry.
• 54:41
  That's, that's the exciting stuff.
• 54:43
  You want to cheer some,
• 54:44
  you want to cheer for the
• 54:44
  underdog to take somebody down.
• 54:48
  And yeah,
• 54:49
  the media companies should
• 54:50
  absolutely pump that up.
• 54:52
  Yeah.
• 54:52
  I mean, it's in every sport.
• 54:53
  There's rivalries like in hockey right now,
• 54:57
  let's say Angel Reese
• 54:58
  versus Caitlin Clark for
• 54:59
  the rookie of the year.
• 55:01
  And people are building up
• 55:02
  like they hate each other.
• 55:04
  Whether the media,
• 55:05
  you know,
• 55:06
  pumps up the Australians or USA
• 55:08
  for the swimming.
• 55:09
  You know,
• 55:09
  I think it's good for viewership
• 55:11
  in the end,
• 55:12
  the more that they can talk about it,
• 55:14
  the better it is.
• 55:15
  So no, I like it.
• 55:18
  Do you think that,
• 55:19
  do you think CrossFit's
• 55:20
  fallen short on the Laura
• 55:22
  Tia robbery for this year?
• 55:27
  Yeah.
• 55:32
  They could do more.
• 55:33
  I mean,
• 55:33
  they tried doing something with
• 55:34
  Roman and Jeff and that was a fail.
• 55:39
  But they could definitely pump up.
• 55:42
  Now,
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  I don't think they have to go about it
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  like they hate each other.
• 55:46
  I don't think it's about
• 55:47
  hating each other.
• 55:48
  I think they have a lot of
• 55:49
  respect for each other.
• 55:50
  I think everyone in our
• 55:50
  sport has a lot of respect
• 55:51
  for each other and the work
• 55:53
  that everyone does and puts in.
• 55:56
  But I think they could play on some of the
• 56:01
  Some of the rivalries.
• 56:02
  I mean,
• 56:02
  we're seeing some of the fun like
• 56:06
  male side developing right now.
• 56:09
  It would be nice to have
• 56:10
  something like that on the
• 56:11
  female side just to root for.
• 56:15
  But on the male side,
• 56:16
  they're doing it themselves.
• 56:18
  Yeah.
• 56:19
  Well, Laura's not doing it.
• 56:20
  Laura's like putting that stuff out there.
• 56:23
  Her posts have been.
• 56:24
  So I think she's trying.
• 56:27
  Somebody's got to pick it up.
• 56:28
  Coming to win.
• 56:29
  Yeah.
• 56:30
  And she has stated that you
• 56:32
  could clip that stuff together.
• 56:35
  You could clip a thing of Tia working out,
• 56:37
  getting better,
• 56:38
  hurt the names of her videos,
• 56:41
  like making the comeback,
• 56:43
  coming to take it over.
• 56:45
  Right.
• 56:46
  Laura saying,
• 56:47
  I'm coming to win regardless
• 56:49
  of who's there.
• 56:50
  CrossFit should be taking
• 56:51
  the Dallin Pepper Roman
• 56:53
  comments from semifinals,
• 56:55
  clipping them up, and using them to say,
• 56:57
  the CrossFit Games are coming August 7th.
• 57:01
  Watch Dallin and Roman go head-to-head.
• 57:06
  They don't do any of that.
• 57:08
  And you just mentioned it, Carolyn,
• 57:10
  every other sport.
• 57:12
  The Angel Reese-Caitlin one
• 57:14
  is huge right now.
• 57:17
  I mean,
• 57:18
  people take it to a level sometimes
• 57:20
  I feel like they shouldn't
• 57:21
  take it for some of the rivalries.
• 57:24
  But in general, it's great for the sport.
• 57:27
  Like here we have that it's not necessary.
• 57:29
  I don't think it's always necessary,
• 57:31
  but you could still play it
• 57:33
  like they each have their
• 57:35
  skills and just showcase
• 57:37
  how good these two are.
• 57:38
  And these are the, you know,
• 57:39
  the top two in our sports
• 57:40
  going to be going head to head in August,
• 57:43
  you know, August 8th to 11th.
• 57:45
  And you promote, you know,
• 57:46
  our top athletes like that
• 57:48
  for the head to head.
• 57:48
  But I still want to see, you know,
• 57:50
  the other athletes get developed.
• 57:52
  And yeah, any rivalries,
• 57:54
  I think it's good.
• 57:56
  back and forth at rogue you
• 57:57
  could use that footage to
• 57:59
  make tia won this event
• 58:02
  laura won this event back
• 58:04
  and forth they went you
• 58:06
  know there's so many little
• 58:08
  things they could have put
• 58:09
  together to promote this
• 58:11
  crossfit games there's
• 58:13
  still time not much
• 58:18
  So now my contention is that
• 58:20
  people outside of CrossFit
• 58:22
  that are running events are
• 58:23
  doing a better job of that.
• 58:25
  We've talked about how
• 58:26
  Europe is so intense at
• 58:27
  semifinals because you get
• 58:29
  to root for your country.
• 58:31
  So it has been announced that this year,
• 58:33
  SoCal,
• 58:35
  Guadalupalooza is doing a North
• 58:37
  America versus the world.
• 58:40
  Fit Fest just announced this
• 58:42
  week they are doing Europe
• 58:44
  versus the world.
• 58:48
  Those entities see the value
• 58:51
  in having rivalries and country pride,
• 58:59
  right?
• 58:59
  Continent pride,
• 59:00
  whatever you want to call it.
• 59:05
  What do you think about
• 59:06
  those events doing that thing,
• 59:07
  doing that?
• 59:10
  Oh, it'll draw more eyes for sure.
• 59:13
  Yeah.
• 59:14
  I mean, we all,
• 59:14
  we only see them in like
• 59:16
  compete individually throughout the year.
• 59:17
  So it's a chance for
• 59:20
  different athletes to team
• 59:21
  up and whether you're
• 59:23
  rooting for team North
• 59:25
  America or team world or team Europe,
• 59:28
  it just allows, you know,
• 59:30
  something that they have in
• 59:30
  common and they become a team.
• 59:33
  And it's just something that
• 59:34
  you don't see.
• 59:35
  We have the CrossFit Games teams,
• 59:37
  but obviously we know that
• 59:40
  these type of showcases would like have
• 59:43
  great athletes individual
• 59:44
  athletes going team and
• 59:45
  it's just a higher level in
• 59:47
  general yeah like sarah
• 59:51
  says I hopefully they
• 59:52
  broadcast fit fest this
• 59:54
  time yeah and I i and when
• 59:59
  I was talking to ariel she
• 1:00:00
  said at fit fest there was
• 1:00:01
  no like it was not supposed
• 1:00:03
  to be competition but every
• 1:00:05
  time they go three two one
• 1:00:07
  everybody wanted to win
• 1:00:08
  there was strategy on every workout
• 1:00:11
  They were all trying their
• 1:00:13
  hardest because they're competitors.
• 1:00:17
  And I hope it's a broadcast.
• 1:00:21
  I hope SoCal Waterpalooza
• 1:00:23
  does a great job.
• 1:00:24
  The cool thing about it only
• 1:00:25
  being two teams is it
• 1:00:27
  should be very easy to view
• 1:00:29
  the competition.
• 1:00:32
  And the different format for each event,
• 1:00:35
  two-on-two, one-on-one, eight-on-eight,
• 1:00:40
  it's going to be a fun thing to watch,
• 1:00:42
  I hope.
• 1:00:44
  And hopefully spurs some new
• 1:00:46
  types of competition.
• 1:00:53
  But I also think this is why
• 1:00:54
  teams don't necessarily need to separate
• 1:00:57
  from the CrossFit Games to
• 1:00:58
  allow these type of
• 1:00:59
  competitions to do these
• 1:01:00
  exhibitions or these
• 1:01:02
  showcases of these athletes
• 1:01:04
  on super teams.
• 1:01:06
  Like I don't necessarily
• 1:01:07
  think that CrossFit needs
• 1:01:08
  to run another competition.
• 1:01:13
  Unless they would bring the
• 1:01:14
  teams back with the masters
• 1:01:15
  and the teenagers and
• 1:01:17
  that's a whole package and
• 1:01:19
  you have a lot of people in
• 1:01:20
  the stands now going to see
• 1:01:22
  their families.
• 1:01:23
  you could do something like
• 1:01:24
  that but if all of them are
• 1:01:25
  going to get separated I
• 1:01:26
  don't think that's the
• 1:01:27
  right move agree agree
• 1:01:32
  speaking of which we did
• 1:01:33
  have a comment this week in
• 1:01:34
  the youtube comments that
• 1:01:36
  when are we going to start
• 1:01:37
  interviewing masters
• 1:01:38
  athletes one we have one on
• 1:01:41
  this show every week two we
• 1:01:45
  I did an interview with
• 1:01:46
  rudy and lynette burger a week ago
• 1:01:49
  We have one scheduled for
• 1:01:50
  this week with a
• 1:01:52
  mother-daughter who both
• 1:01:53
  qualified for the CrossFit Games.
• 1:01:56
  It'll be this Thursday and they're,
• 1:01:59
  they're not able to attend
• 1:02:00
  each other's event because
• 1:02:01
  they're on the same weekend.
• 1:02:04
  And so we're going to talk
• 1:02:04
  about what that means to them.
• 1:02:06
  And that'll be this Thursday.
• 1:02:09
  So please check that out.
• 1:02:10
  So we'll have a teen athlete
• 1:02:11
  and a master's athlete.
• 1:02:13
  And the plan was this will
• 1:02:15
  be this coming week is the
• 1:02:16
  last week I'm doing elite
• 1:02:18
  interviews for the games as
• 1:02:20
  we're getting too close to
• 1:02:22
  to interrupt training
• 1:02:22
  schedules going into the games.
• 1:02:25
  So it'll switch over to
• 1:02:27
  coaches and Masters athletes after that,
• 1:02:30
  leading up to the Masters CrossFit Games.
• 1:02:34
  So just to explain that to
• 1:02:35
  everybody of the plan coming up.
• 1:02:40
  So one of the other
• 1:02:42
  interviews that Dave Castro did,
• 1:02:44
  he was schooling somebody
• 1:02:46
  on James Fitzgerald.
• 1:02:50
  and uh the guy who did the
• 1:02:51
  first butterfly pull-up and
• 1:02:53
  was in uh every every
• 1:02:56
  second counts shoot he
• 1:03:01
  trains out of cross at
• 1:03:01
  calgary or something like
• 1:03:02
  that yeah I forgot the name
• 1:03:04
  yeah I think it was in the
• 1:03:06
  hattie canyo interview
• 1:03:07
  actually uh because she
• 1:03:09
  lives in the area where
• 1:03:11
  fitzgerald and this guy
• 1:03:13
  came from and uh and he
• 1:03:16
  said if there was a crossfit hall of fame
• 1:03:18
  those two would be in it
• 1:03:21
  because of their
• 1:03:22
  contribution to the sport
• 1:03:23
  okay so I put into our
• 1:03:26
  notes a question to you two
• 1:03:28
  is if there was a crossfit
• 1:03:31
  hall of fame and you had to
• 1:03:34
  start it with three men and
• 1:03:36
  three women now all other
• 1:03:39
  sports hall of fames you
• 1:03:40
  have to be retired
• 1:03:43
  to be eligible to go into
• 1:03:45
  the Hall of Fame.
• 1:03:46
  And my caveat to that is
• 1:03:48
  Masters competition does not count.
• 1:03:52
  So you just have to be
• 1:03:53
  retired from elite
• 1:03:54
  individual competition to be eligible.
• 1:03:58
  Who are your three men and
• 1:04:00
  your three women?
• 1:04:04
  Well, I think we all have Matt and Rich,
• 1:04:06
  right?
• 1:04:08
  No?
• 1:04:10
  Carolyn doesn't.
• 1:04:12
  I do have Matt and Rich.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  I forgot about Matt, but he retired.
• 1:04:22
  I will add him to mine.
• 1:04:24
  One time championship she forgot.
• 1:04:28
  Yes.
• 1:04:28
  Matt and Rich.
• 1:04:29
  Yes.
• 1:04:31
  My third guy is Scott Panczyk.
• 1:04:40
  Over Ben Smith.
• 1:04:42
  Yep.
• 1:04:42
  I don't feel like Ben's
• 1:04:45
  actually retired yet.
• 1:04:47
  Yeah,
• 1:04:48
  I actually thought of Ben Smith and
• 1:04:49
  then said I had to
• 1:04:49
  disqualify him because he
• 1:04:51
  competed in individual semis this year.
• 1:04:53
  Yes.
• 1:04:54
  I have Mikko Salo.
• 1:04:55
  I think he changed the game
• 1:04:57
  a lot for the Europeans to
• 1:05:00
  enter the sport and train.
• 1:05:03
  And Jason Kalipa.
• 1:05:08
  Because you forgot Matt.
• 1:05:11
  Which one wouldn't make it
• 1:05:12
  if you had to put Matt in?
• 1:05:13
  Probably Kalipa.
• 1:05:17
  I think Mikko has an
• 1:05:20
  influence with the
• 1:05:24
  Europeans to really grow the sport there.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah,
• 1:05:28
  I agree that Mikko's influence on
• 1:05:31
  Europe was massive.
• 1:05:33
  And I really like Jason Kalipa a lot,
• 1:05:36
  so it's a tough one between those two.
• 1:05:39
  I'll give the edge for the
• 1:05:42
  Just for the Europeans, I think,
• 1:05:44
  just to grow it there.
• 1:05:46
  We'll give it to Miko.
• 1:05:48
  I got lazy and went James Fitzgerald.
• 1:05:50
  He was the first ever champion.
• 1:05:52
  And just like in the NFL,
• 1:05:55
  the Hall of Fame always
• 1:05:56
  does like an old-timers vote in.
• 1:06:00
  And just so that people can
• 1:06:02
  learn about how the sport started.
• 1:06:04
  And James Fitzgerald has
• 1:06:05
  been around the sport ever
• 1:06:07
  since with OPEX and all of that stuff.
• 1:06:11
  And so I go Matt Rich, James Fitzgerald.
• 1:06:19
  Andrew Sten says, Rich Matt, Jason Kalipa.
• 1:06:27
  And you'd probably have some sort of,
• 1:06:30
  you know,
• 1:06:30
  people from the first era would
• 1:06:32
  probably get inducted first
• 1:06:33
  before even like Matt would
• 1:06:35
  get because he's one of the
• 1:06:36
  more recent retirees.
• 1:06:38
  So you would probably get, you know,
• 1:06:39
  the Ben Smiths and people before that,
• 1:06:43
  even though Ben's still competing.
• 1:06:46
  So with the women,
• 1:06:48
  they're all still competing pretty much.
• 1:06:54
  No.
• 1:06:54
  I'm trying to make a point here.
• 1:06:56
  So you can't go Katrin.
• 1:06:57
  You can't go Annie.
• 1:06:58
  You can't go because they
• 1:07:00
  are still competing.
• 1:07:01
  Right.
• 1:07:02
  Right.
• 1:07:03
  Yep.
• 1:07:04
  You can't go Tia because
• 1:07:05
  she's still competing.
• 1:07:06
  Yep.
• 1:07:08
  So the Mount Rushmore of women...
• 1:07:12
  ish is kind of off limits
• 1:07:15
  because they're still competing.
• 1:07:16
  So it makes it a whole lot harder.
• 1:07:20
  That's true.
• 1:07:21
  So who do you got for women?
• 1:07:23
  I have Kristen Clever, Katie Henninger,
• 1:07:26
  Sam Briggs.
• 1:07:30
  Okay.
• 1:07:31
  I had all those on my narrow down list.
• 1:07:34
  I have a question mark for
• 1:07:36
  Kristen Clever for me.
• 1:07:37
  But I have Carrie Pierce.
• 1:07:40
  Sam Briggs, and Annie Sakamoto.
• 1:07:48
  I have Sam Briggs, Kristen Clever,
• 1:07:50
  and Becca Voigt.
• 1:07:54
  Becca's a very good one.
• 1:07:56
  I had Wagner as well on my list.
• 1:07:57
  I did too.
• 1:07:59
  And I thought about Annie as well.
• 1:08:02
  I understand that's Kristen Holta,
• 1:08:04
  Tanya Wagner, and Katie Henniger.
• 1:08:07
  Holta's great too.
• 1:08:10
  Holta is one of my favorite athletes.
• 1:08:13
  Holta Sakamoto.
• 1:08:17
  Nobody with Carrie Pierce.
• 1:08:21
  Y'all are crazy.
• 1:08:27
  Sarah Cooper says Kara.
• 1:08:31
  She's competing on a team.
• 1:08:33
  I had it up in the air
• 1:08:34
  whether that counted or not.
• 1:08:40
  And to be honest, to me,
• 1:08:44
  the other people I picked
• 1:08:44
  either won it or Becca was
• 1:08:48
  the first woman to go
• 1:08:49
  double-digit appearances at the games.
• 1:08:52
  Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Her long job.
• 1:08:55
  She was a podium winner as well.
• 1:08:58
  So with all of those credentials,
• 1:09:01
  that's why I...
• 1:09:02
  Katie was there too for me
• 1:09:04
  because of what she's done
• 1:09:07
  for the sport overall.
• 1:09:09
  Champion and then moves into
• 1:09:11
  a different realm,
• 1:09:13
  but still has supported the
• 1:09:14
  sport forever.
• 1:09:15
  But I went on the court or
• 1:09:18
  floor more than off.
• 1:09:20
  See, like in my mind,
• 1:09:22
  when I picked my athlete's mail and
• 1:09:25
  female,
• 1:09:25
  which is why I probably didn't
• 1:09:26
  think about Matt.
• 1:09:27
  Cause I was thinking more of
• 1:09:28
  like the influence outside as well,
• 1:09:31
  or just on the sport.
• 1:09:32
  I mean,
• 1:09:32
  Matt would have an incredible influence,
• 1:09:35
  obviously.
• 1:09:36
  I just,
• 1:09:36
  he was so like near retirement to
• 1:09:38
  me that I didn't,
• 1:09:39
  I was trying to look further back.
• 1:09:42
  Um, but yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Do you realize Matt's been
• 1:09:45
  retired for four years?
• 1:09:46
  It's crazy.
• 1:09:47
  That is crazy.
• 1:09:50
  It's gone by fast.
• 1:09:52
  Most underrated valve overall.
• 1:09:55
  Who is making her comeback
• 1:09:56
  at the Masters CrossFit
• 1:09:58
  Games versus our very own Jamie Latimer.
• 1:10:05
  Isn't Vale in the 45?
• 1:10:08
  I thought she was 40 to 44,
• 1:10:09
  but I might be wrong.
• 1:10:10
  I thought she was 45.
• 1:10:18
  Andrew Sten said,
• 1:10:19
  I think women is harder to pick than men.
• 1:10:20
  Definitely.
• 1:10:21
  Definitely.
• 1:10:22
  Because you have two of
• 1:10:23
  Mount Rushmore that are
• 1:10:24
  retired for the men.
• 1:10:27
  Like that you just instantly
• 1:10:28
  say they're up on Mount Rushmore.
• 1:10:34
  And all like the three
• 1:10:35
  greatest female
• 1:10:37
  CrossFitters of all time
• 1:10:38
  are all still competing.
• 1:10:40
  Yeah.
• 1:10:43
  So yeah, it made it tough.
• 1:10:48
  Anything else on that?
• 1:10:51
  No, I just can't believe I forgot Matt.
• 1:10:53
  I feel dumb.
• 1:10:54
  I get what you're saying.
• 1:10:56
  He's not the one that comes
• 1:10:57
  to mind for me first with
• 1:10:59
  influence in the sport.
• 1:11:00
  Of course he has a huge influence,
• 1:11:02
  but he's just not rich.
• 1:11:04
  He didn't bolster up CrossFit.
• 1:11:07
  I mean, he had opportunities.
• 1:11:10
  He had interviews that he could have.
• 1:11:13
  I don't know.
• 1:11:13
  I just...
• 1:11:16
  But he's still in that freezer.
• 1:11:19
  I know.
• 1:11:19
  It's fine.
• 1:11:20
  It's fine.
• 1:11:21
  He came to my mind instantly.
• 1:11:23
  Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Instantly.
• 1:11:24
  Like, bam.
• 1:11:26
  Draw your dagger.
• 1:11:27
  Interesting question.
• 1:11:28
  I have an interesting question after this.
• 1:11:30
  Influential would give some
• 1:11:31
  nods to Valenzuela, Tovar,
• 1:11:33
  Camille LeBlanc, Bazinet.
• 1:11:35
  They were it people.
• 1:11:37
  Is it people influential or
• 1:11:40
  just it people?
• 1:11:42
  Yeah.
• 1:11:42
  Yeah.
• 1:11:45
  So influential to me,
• 1:11:46
  like what Rich has done for
• 1:11:48
  the overall sport and for
• 1:11:50
  CrossFit in general methodology,
• 1:11:53
  everything is super influential.
• 1:11:58
  I don't think anybody else
• 1:11:59
  in CrossFit has done what he has done.
• 1:12:04
  So now like you're parsing things out.
• 1:12:06
  Like I don't even think
• 1:12:09
  Camille is embracing CrossFit anymore.
• 1:12:11
  No.
• 1:12:11
  No.
• 1:12:18
  And, you know,
• 1:12:19
  some would say that her one
• 1:12:21
  win was kind of a fluky
• 1:12:22
  programming thing.
• 1:12:27
  Stacey Tovar is an affiliate owner.
• 1:12:28
  She does contribute to the space,
• 1:12:32
  but it's a much smaller
• 1:12:33
  level than like a Rich.
• 1:12:37
  Or even like a Becca Voigt.
• 1:12:38
  Becca Voigt's been an
• 1:12:39
  affiliate owner forever.
• 1:12:43
  Yeah, I forgot about her.
• 1:12:44
  She's a great pick.
• 1:12:47
  And, uh, and then Lindsay Valenzuela,
• 1:12:50
  I know she has a lot of fans,
• 1:12:52
  a lot of fans, but I just don't think.
• 1:12:56
  And for me, like Stacey Tovar is my girl.
• 1:12:58
  Like that is,
• 1:12:59
  that is before I ever got
• 1:13:00
  into this media space.
• 1:13:01
  That's who I rooted for.
• 1:13:06
  And I wouldn't even put her
• 1:13:10
  in at this point.
• 1:13:11
  Maybe someday.
• 1:13:12
  But no podiums.
• 1:13:15
  One top 10 finish, I think.
• 1:13:21
  So Valenzuela and Camille
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  had better finishes than she did.
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  um historic fitness says
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  it's because matt has
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  broken six athletes as a
• 1:13:39
  coach uh not sure about
• 1:13:44
  that uh if you looked at
• 1:13:47
  what people wore in gyms in
• 1:13:48
  the mid to late 2010s they
• 1:13:49
  had a ton of influence
• 1:13:54
  sad to say I wore the the
• 1:13:57
  necklace that rich wore I
• 1:13:58
  had the bandana um I wore
• 1:14:01
  the shades uh yeah rich was
• 1:14:07
  rich was my guy yeah uh
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  kenneth what about rogue
• 1:14:12
  lady kitty henniger she
• 1:14:13
  made a list yeah she was
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  sad uh none of the newer
• 1:14:20
  people even know who tovar or clb are
• 1:14:23
  You're probably right.
• 1:14:25
  Other than that,
• 1:14:25
  Stacey announced the games last year.
• 1:14:29
  And that's probably all they know of her.
• 1:14:37
  I'm saying that I think
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  those folks had a lot of
• 1:14:39
  influence on the culture of CrossFit.
• 1:14:42
  They did.
• 1:14:43
  Most definitely.
• 1:14:51
  I've got some.
• 1:14:55
  I'll have to break one out.
• 1:15:00
  I just know I did 14.5 in the full getup.
• 1:15:06
  The rogue shorts.
• 1:15:11
  That's the thruster and burpee one.
• 1:15:13
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Had the headband, had the necklace,
• 1:15:18
  the whole bit.
• 1:15:19
  I did it inside, so no shades, but
• 1:15:25
  Rock tape on both knees.
• 1:15:31
  Yeah.
• 1:15:32
  Wraps.
• 1:15:35
  Yeah, I think that was it.
• 1:15:38
  So, yeah,
• 1:15:39
  I'll break one out for next week.
• 1:15:42
  We should all submit a
• 1:15:43
  picture of us in like high
• 1:15:47
  socks or whatever the goofy trend was,
• 1:15:51
  goofiest trend you wore in the gym.
• 1:15:57
  And if you guys in the
• 1:15:58
  audience have goofy trend picks,
• 1:16:01
  DM me with them.
• 1:16:04
  And we will share them next
• 1:16:05
  week on the show.
• 1:16:09
  Sarah, it was not a Halloween costume.
• 1:16:11
  Not at all.
• 1:16:13
  It was what I wore to the gym every day.
• 1:16:20
  All right.
• 1:16:21
  Some quick hits as we head out tonight.
• 1:16:24
  Number one,
• 1:16:26
  I get to announce that, yes,
• 1:16:30
  we got media credentials
• 1:16:31
  for the CrossFit Games.
• 1:16:35
  We got our approval on
• 1:16:36
  Friday late afternoon as I
• 1:16:37
  was driving to Michigan and
• 1:16:39
  my phone was blowing up and
• 1:16:40
  I was driving so I couldn't
• 1:16:42
  pay attention to it.
• 1:16:43
  But yeah, we got the access.
• 1:16:48
  It's going to be interesting.
• 1:16:49
  It was written out way
• 1:16:51
  differently than it has
• 1:16:52
  been in years past.
• 1:16:54
  So it'll be interesting to
• 1:16:55
  see what all that means.
• 1:17:00
  We already talked about full
• 1:17:01
  access to the behind the
• 1:17:02
  scenes of the Masters CrossFit Games.
• 1:17:04
  Super stoked about that.
• 1:17:06
  And then it was announced
• 1:17:07
  this week that ESPN will be
• 1:17:10
  broadcasting the CrossFit
• 1:17:11
  Games and they are doing an
• 1:17:14
  international version on
• 1:17:16
  the CrossFit Games website
• 1:17:18
  and YouTube for the
• 1:17:19
  international customers.
• 1:17:20
  But in the States,
• 1:17:23
  ESPN will be the primary
• 1:17:25
  broadcaster and they are...
• 1:17:28
  airing exclusive two-hour
• 1:17:30
  blocks every day.
• 1:17:37
  So, I think that's all that is.
• 1:17:42
  That's the news.
• 1:17:43
  Draw your dagger is as
• 1:17:44
  cheesy as we all looked.
• 1:17:45
  Think about how strong the
• 1:17:47
  culture of CrossFit was then.
• 1:17:49
  It's been downhill ever since.
• 1:17:50
  The neon, the board shorts,
• 1:17:52
  the tall socks.
• 1:17:56
  I think it's, I think,
• 1:17:58
  I think the culture is still
• 1:18:00
  strong in some of the affiliates.
• 1:18:04
  I think when we're in this media world,
• 1:18:07
  we sometimes get sucked
• 1:18:08
  into the negative narrative.
• 1:18:10
  But when I go to the gym, it is,
• 1:18:13
  everybody's great.
• 1:18:14
  The community is awesome.
• 1:18:15
  Everybody's cheering each other on.
• 1:18:18
  And we're not even wearing neon anymore.
• 1:18:21
  I wear...
• 1:18:23
  Go ahead.
• 1:18:24
  I would say I wear neon plenty.
• 1:18:27
  But speaking of affiliates,
• 1:18:29
  I'm surprised at how many
• 1:18:30
  of the athletes are
• 1:18:31
  training inside an affiliate.
• 1:18:33
  I thought more of them were
• 1:18:34
  training in their garage,
• 1:18:35
  but almost almost all of
• 1:18:37
  them in their interviews
• 1:18:38
  have mentioned different
• 1:18:39
  affiliated gyms that they're training at.
• 1:18:43
  So I think that's a that's a
• 1:18:45
  positive sign versus all
• 1:18:47
  the athletes just training
• 1:18:49
  away from the community and on their own.
• 1:18:52
  It's nice to see that some
• 1:18:53
  of them are coaching some
• 1:18:55
  classes and still involved
• 1:18:57
  within their communities.
• 1:19:02
  Or one of them built their
• 1:19:03
  own affiliate in their backyard.
• 1:19:08
  Two of them soon with Ariel's too.
• 1:19:13
  And Ariel actually,
• 1:19:15
  the concept of hers came
• 1:19:17
  from Emma McQuaid.
• 1:19:21
  How would you like an
• 1:19:22
  affiliate with freestanding
• 1:19:24
  rig with a freestanding rig?
• 1:19:28
  Have you seen it?
• 1:19:31
  What's a freestanding?
• 1:19:32
  What do you mean?
• 1:19:34
  So it doesn't have any legs,
• 1:19:37
  the pull up bars,
• 1:19:38
  the rings from the ceiling.
• 1:19:40
  Yeah.
• 1:19:40
  That's how they have.
• 1:19:42
  They have that.
• 1:19:47
  They have rig too, but they,
• 1:19:48
  they have the freestanding pull up.
• 1:19:50
  Yeah.
• 1:19:51
  it's been a long time since
• 1:19:53
  I've been there but yeah I
• 1:19:54
  do remember over the where
• 1:19:56
  the lifting boards were
• 1:19:58
  they have yeah I don't
• 1:20:01
  think I'd like it
• 1:20:02
  personally I don't know she
• 1:20:05
  said it gave her all the
• 1:20:05
  floor space she needed
• 1:20:07
  while still having the rig
• 1:20:09
  to do the like a long lunge
• 1:20:11
  or a long whatever
• 1:20:14
  And it's immaculate.
• 1:20:17
  She said she's so picky and
• 1:20:19
  everything's in the right
• 1:20:20
  spot and it's super clean.
• 1:20:23
  Well, she's proud of it.
• 1:20:25
  It's her baby, right?
• 1:20:26
  She built that.
• 1:20:27
  She worked hard.
• 1:20:28
  She won that Waterpalooza
• 1:20:29
  money and I think put it
• 1:20:31
  towards building that gym.
• 1:20:35
  I mean, why wouldn't you keep it clean,
• 1:20:38
  right?
• 1:20:39
  You worked hard for it.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah.
• 1:20:42
  It looks awesome.
• 1:20:45
  Dave was impressed.
• 1:20:48
  I could see Dave wanting to
• 1:20:49
  go there and check it out.
• 1:20:53
  That's cool.
• 1:20:55
  Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  I'm telling you,
• 1:20:56
  these Dave interviews really shocked me.
• 1:21:00
  They are so good.
• 1:21:02
  He is opening up so much to these people.
• 1:21:06
  It's been awesome.
• 1:21:07
  It's been awesome to get to
• 1:21:08
  know Dave as more of a
• 1:21:09
  human than just the guy
• 1:21:12
  programming the games.
• 1:21:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:16
  it's going to be interesting
• 1:21:16
  to hear from the athletes,
• 1:21:18
  how much different the
• 1:21:19
  interaction is with him
• 1:21:21
  this year at the games,
• 1:21:22
  as opposed to years past.
• 1:21:27
  Yeah.
• 1:21:30
  He might hate it.
• 1:21:31
  He doesn't want to talk.
• 1:21:32
  I feel like at the games and
• 1:21:33
  now he's like opened up
• 1:21:34
  this friendly vibe with
• 1:21:35
  them and people are going
• 1:21:37
  to want to talk to him.
• 1:21:38
  I don't know.
• 1:21:39
  It'll be curious to see.
• 1:21:45
  But isn't that how you're
• 1:21:46
  going to grow the sport?
• 1:21:47
  They are your voice.
• 1:21:48
  They are your bullhorn to
• 1:21:51
  talk about what CrossFit is.
• 1:21:53
  And so many of them are in affiliates.
• 1:21:55
  So many of them are coaching.
• 1:21:58
  Some have level threes, level fours.
• 1:22:02
  You want those people talking about it.
• 1:22:05
  So I think from a business sense,
• 1:22:08
  he needs that.
• 1:22:10
  He needs to open up that
• 1:22:11
  door so that they can...
• 1:22:14
  Like,
• 1:22:14
  you remember back when Rich and Annie
• 1:22:16
  won it and they went on
• 1:22:17
  tour with CrossFit?
• 1:22:19
  Like,
• 1:22:20
  that relationship was severed at one
• 1:22:22
  point,
• 1:22:23
  and they need to reopen that so
• 1:22:25
  that athletes are willing
• 1:22:26
  to go do those things again.
• 1:22:31
  But anyway, I digress.
• 1:22:34
  Again.
• 1:22:36
  I'm going to give it one more try.
• 1:22:37
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• 1:22:39
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• 1:22:42
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• 1:22:49
  shoot that into the YouTube
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• 1:22:55
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• 1:22:57
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• 1:22:58
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• 1:22:59
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