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Boots On The Ground · Boundary Corner Podcast

• 0:45
  Welcome back to The Foundry Corner podcast with my partner.
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  Brian Sigler, I'm Curtis Wilson, Brian how it goes tonight.
• 0:55
  Yeah buddy. We're back on a Wednesday night.
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  Just watch the Hokies close out a tight one.
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  At the end, even though the first half was pretty much all
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  Hokies so good to close that. One out and a good Wednesday
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  night so far, man. Good W.
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  Hopefully get sits on the right side of Bernardi's Bracketology
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  we were just outside. That when gets this just inside,
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  but it's been a couple weeks we're in the off season mode
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  every few weeks were showing up on Wednesday nights here for you
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  guys. Last time, it was Thursday.
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  We're going to try to aim for Wednesday's.
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  Most weeks, and man, we've got a show tonight, Brian.
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  So much stuff, a press conference, some transfers, and
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  guys, stay, and some guys leaving coaches salaries, which
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  was eye-opening, but let's start with something real fun by
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  Brian. If you have not seen already
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  Hokie Nation. Go look up on BT.
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  Twitter re T, Instagram or Facebook page?
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  Coach pry gets involved in the traditional first, snow Flight
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  of the Year snowball playing smooth.
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  These snow fight between the student body and the corps of
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  cadets, and It was, it's refreshing.
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  It's he was having a blast and probably.
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  Was he making just nice. Little little snowballs.
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  You throw at your kids to have my use?
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  He was checking coconuts, man. I just talking coconuts.
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  I mean, he was in the motion like, oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah, he was like, the kids are Jackie.
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  They show the video in his. He's walking towards it.
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  You hear somebody say? Holy mother.
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  I don't know if they said, holy shit or what but you could hear.
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  Oh my God it's coach. And he gets swarmed and and then
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  the next thing you know he's walking across to the core and
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  what was so cool about it at first, it was they were just you
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  can see they didn't know what it was.
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  And then all of a sudden that first guy noticed and then the
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  rest of them noticed. Yep.
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  And just exuberance from them. Yeah, it's good to see a guy
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  that gets Virginia Tech like pry does.
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  And I mean, I know we said this probably ad nauseam.
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  It's been all over Twitter. Yes, this guy gets it, like,
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  it's getting cliche this point but this guy fucking gets it.
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  He died. That's what students do.
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  That's what we did. You know, when we visit a tank
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  is undergrad, you go to PK's, you get some wings, he got his
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  own lemon pepper, wet that he made the cheetah Wing, which I'm
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  not a big drag guy. But I gotta say that, that that
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  sounds pretty good those wings, you see him taking pictures out
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  in the community like they get it.
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  It's like, this is home, is truly a, it's no longer just a
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  slogan. Yeah, it is like there.
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  They're get it. Like, let's get in here, get in
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  the community, do some fun things, go to places, people go
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  be seen and it doesn't feel forced.
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  I think that's the big thing. It feels authentic if it was
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  like checking boxes like no, that would be one thing.
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  But I mean, this feel the feels authentic.
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  It looks like they genuinely enjoy getting out in the
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  community. Enjoy interacting with the folks
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  in Blacksburg, enjoy as prided. Participating in a hokey
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  tradition. Yep, it just, it feels different
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  man and I mean, I know, you know, you can only win the first
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  off season Once, but yes you later they are kicking its ass
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  right now. They are going hard after it to
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  win the all season and I tell you, you know, last week we also
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  had him go hard at that press conference knocking it out of
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  the ballpark again. Fine we got so much to unload to
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  this thing. You got new hires, he talks
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  about numerous members of the staff.
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  But let's start with this, when he was talking about how he put
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  the staff together, he had a few things.
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  He said, and I know the one that caught your eye and then as we
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  look at the guys that kind of makes sense, it's that he talked
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  about, he wanted a good blend of young guys who have high
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  football like, use to me. I hear he says that he's saying
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  Chris Marquis and Tyler bone and with high ceilings and then he's
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  talking about just And guys, that can recruit.
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  And you know, every piece of this staff, it looks that way.
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  It looks that way, and it looks like the staff was put together
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  with thought. It wasn't just Who were the
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  guys? I can bring in it.
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  Was all right, which guys are going to work with the others
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  which pieces are going to get us.
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  What we need on the recruiting Trail on the football field and
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  off the football field because that stuff is important to.
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  And it seems like the, the mix the blend that he was able to
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  come up with, is looking good. So far again, we're still early
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  we got some some good early returns and obviously the
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  enthusiasm that there Bring to the table is, is next level
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  right now. So, yeah, you know, obviously
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  again, we'll see what that that Trans in the future.
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  But yeah, yeah, as you said Marv, Bowen, both the High
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  football IQ guys. High ceiling.
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  And you know, you got veterans on the staff.
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  You got Quinn. You got Glen.
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  Yeah. Holt you got cheetah obviously.
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  So you got guys It can recruit and get guys in the building
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  too. So it's also funny because
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  something he mentioned and if you just kind of go back to the
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  DNA of what Virginia Tech is, he talked about Anita guys that did
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  BT and sort of BT's, it's one of those cultures.
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  Where are we just all super a lot of people always say we're,
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  we're really blue collar program.
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  Know there are parts of this program that are really blue
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  collar. Guys, who worked their butts
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  off, Sean Quinn's, and as like bread, Glenn who have worked
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  their butts off to get somewhere.
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  Like this. Heck, yeah.
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  But we're still a DB you. We still had some of the most
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  electric running backs in the 2000s.
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  Yep we have some swag and you kind of see, you know, we see
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  cheetah and you see Marv and you see some of these other guys,
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  they have that little bit of Swag that's what Blended so well
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  for so many years where yes, we have a blue-collar worth ethic
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  But if we get a chance to dog, you, we're going to dog you.
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  We're going to swag you out. Yeah.
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  And that's what it seems like. He knew like, I just don't need
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  a bunch of blue collar guys, but I don't need a bunch of Just
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  Swag. Guys, I gotta have a blend of it
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  and were you shocked Bronwen? He kind of mentioned that he had
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  friends. That wanted to, you know, come
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  here and he basically said you don't make sense here and he
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  Basically said he had to make tough phone calls to friends of
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  his to say. I'm not hiring you.
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  Yeah, we didn't get a Core Nelson here as a result of this
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  hiring process. I mean, I'll call it like it is,
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  I mean, at this point, he's hiring guys, he knows he's
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  hiring, guys, he's had, he's crossed paths with but he's not
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  hiring a direct or even a handful of direct protégées or
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  guys. He's worked with for many, many
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  years consecutively. It's, this is not the the buddy
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  buddy system, but at the same time, it's a good collection of
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  guys, whose Personalities seem to mesh well even when they're
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  not necessarily similar, right? Absolutely.
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  That's a biggie. And, you know, the other thing
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  is kind of like, they asked him, what was he looking for in guys,
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  right? He was talking about, he wanted
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  people skills. He wanted to people to be able
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  to write to the families and players.
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  I think that's big, especially in recruiting, you've got to
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  know the areas of the state, the areas of the region, he wanted
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  great communicators in. He talked about harboring, the
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  former player relationships, and it looks like, obviously would,
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  you know? Pearson that's helping.
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  But, you know, we saw that like, you know, if following Twitter
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  today last few days, There, you know, JC price, even though he's
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  a hokie goes into LC Bird and his pictures, not even with the
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  football coach. He finds that it's a former
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  basketball player. He knew when he went there,
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  right? Yep.
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  And then some of these other guys taking pictures with who
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  was it? That took a picture with someone
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  that you JC, not even football player but new JC and he's the
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  principal of the school. And you see that and it's just
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  like you talked about people skills that's understanding.
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  I'm you here. Where's our relationship?
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  How can we build a relationship? Yep.
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  And finally that commonality in areas that aren't traditional
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  to. I mean, talk about just
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  fostering those relationships with folks in the school.
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  I mean, having a good relationship doesn't just start
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  with the head coach of that team.
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  It's it's kind of a trickle down across the board and when you've
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  got those type of relationships that you can tap into, it's only
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  going to make the recruiting process easier and we talked
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  about Former players. I mean, we're going to talk
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  about him in a little bit here when we get to him.
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  But you know, we already had JC and piercing on here but we got
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  somebody else off the field. That's pretty big in terms of
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  former player relationships as well.
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  So that's big obviously people skills and and just the
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  communication in general, I think is the big thing.
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  This staff seems to understand communication both with the fan
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  base with The players with the High School coaches, they get
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  the importance of the communication piece and we're
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  seeing that play out in real time in terms of just general PR
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  and well, feeling well about the program this is as high as it's
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  been in a while. We haven't even won any games
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  yet like but and I know we talked about honeymoon period
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  but This is different because we're actually seeing a
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  difference. It's not just okay, new coach.
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  There's hope we're actually seeing tangible differences
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  happen already in this process. New coach.
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  There's always hope with the new coach, that's any organization.
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  That's anything like that. We both went through that with
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  our NFL teams last few years, but again, it's, there's a
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  change. We see the presence.
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  We see things, do you and done differently.
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  We see that this is a change. This is a culture change.
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  Change for the better. This is a culture change back to
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  what Virginia Tech does best. And that thing is something else
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  that really impressed me that during this interview, he talked
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  about the coaches, obviously, that was easy, but him given
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  specific. Shout out to filigrana Hazel and
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  Gault, just like he specified and made sure that they were
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  mentioned. And that tells you a lot about
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  his leadership skills, because those guys are behind the
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  scenes, we like, Ali will never see them in front of a
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  microphone getting interviewed by the Press because of the jobs
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  they do, but they sure in that presser to specifically mention
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  them and that says a lot about his leadership skills and
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  laughing. Yeah.
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  I mean the most we might ever see them is like one of those
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  quick cut videos that get dropped on the the Twitter
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  timeline from the football account.
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  Something something like, quickly running through this or
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  that. Or like they did with, with,
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  he'll guard doing some of the strength, and conditioning
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  discussions before, the workouts that you might see, God, doing
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  something like that, but you're not going to see these guys
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  front and center, you know, week to week, month to month, it's
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  going to be kind of very one off at best.
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  And again, God's probably the leader on that just because of
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  the strength and conditioning aspect of his job.
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  Absolutely. All right, Brian.
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  Well, let's turn to it. We've got some new hires to
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  discuss and Finally we get to discuss officially yeah,
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  collarbone named offensive coordinator and tight ends Coach
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  Bo. And if you guys haven't done
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  your research on and he played at Maryland, 2007 to 2009 he was
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  an offensive lineman I think Brian's immediately excited and
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  oh Lyman is now the o.c. but allow me to make the best
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  overseas book it but essentially after he you know got out he
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  immediately started coaching you missy Distant down at Maryland.
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  Then a g a moved over to Towson as a as a tight ends coach, then
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  up to Penn State, then he kind of got his season and I think
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  probably what we can expect. He went to Fordham.
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  Joe moorhead's, a head coach. He was the old line coach there
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  in 15 with Moorhead. Moorhead goes to Penn State.
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  After that he takes over OC duties explosive.
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  Offense, coach Chase Edmunds into being a fourth-round pick
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  from Fordham. If you don't know where Fordham
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  is, it's in New York City, they don't have a lot of NFL players
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  in this day and age. If you know your history, the
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  seven blocks of granite were at Fordham.
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  Read on that. Then some mornings.
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  Yep the Bronx and then oh well coach at Maryland then tighten
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  coaching of recruiting coordinator Penn State for a few
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  years. Then he get the cosita like we
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  talked about other Penn State and then finally, you know, he
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  was down in Jacksonville this year, as a tight ends coach, you
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  know, whatever happened at Penn State is what happened?
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  But Brian. What else do you feel?
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  What else? You know, hearing from private,
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  really got you excited because I like that resume.
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  Tell me the guy wants to be a football coach and is invested
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  in it. Yeah, he wants to be a coach and
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  just circling back to what prize said, very high Q guy, you know,
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  call the call, the Cotton Bowl. When they dropped over 50
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  points, they did familiar with the offensive style.
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  That Pride likes to run very knowledgeable, the game
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  recruiting in the DMV, in Virginia area, while he was at
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  Penn State. Yeah.
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  Go to force. Seven and look up.
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  This guy can recruit now. Delete, recruiter.
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  So he clearly has a game there. And, you know, the one thing
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  that was interesting to me that he talked about, was the whole
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  Jacksonville situation. Yep.
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  Jag's wouldn't give him a real release.
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  My assumption is that he was higher on the pecking order.
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  Once Urban was out in terms of the offense and his role in it,
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  so they probably didn't want to let him out of that.
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  Were some of the couple other guys.
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  It and it was like two weeks later but they got a release
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  from their deal while you know. Yeah.
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  Boneheads to stay on to the end there but he was able to work
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  with the GM down there. So he could vet all the
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  offensive staff as they were moving along in the process
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  there. So that was important.
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  And it was important for us to know that because you don't want
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  just to assume that prize hiring, all these guys that are,
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  you know, working under Bowen. Very heavily and he didn't have
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  a say in the process. So knowing that he was in on
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  that had those conversations with the coaches and got to have
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  those conversations with pride before the higher was made?
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  I think that's important. Yeah, well first of all, the GM
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  of the Jags is Trent baalke before me, 49ers GM, who ran,
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  horrible out of town. After basically, that guy came
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  in and put us in the Super Bowl and put us winning four
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  consecutive year. So I think he Jerk.
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  First of all, Curtis is salty. I don't like Trent baalke do he
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  doesn't know how to draft players, either.
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  He dropped a lot of torn ACL, guys.
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  In a lot of guys, way too early in my opinion, but that being
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  said, I think it's what Brian said.
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  Because with Jacksonville Darrell Bevell d.o.c., he became
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  the head coach and shot. Brian Schottenheimer became the
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  o.c. So, I have a feeling where he
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  was in the pecking order, he probably became like the pass
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  game coordinator or the Run game coordinator in that.
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  Situation. He was, he was working right
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  under Schottenheimer. He was working pretty up there,
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  which is, which is a good thing because that tells you that guys
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  like Darrell Bevell Brian, Schottenheimer long tenured NFL,
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  coaches had a lot of confidence in that guy and talk about you
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  hurting Vetti, vetted every single person on the staff.
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  This is his staff and this is kind of how broke I said, it's
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  his step. He vetted All These Guys, these
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  are his guys. This isn't like Brent said, hire
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  this guy. And as far as the offense goes
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  here style, he's the style. I want to run kept digging
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  around. We're going to run the ball.
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  It's not even a question about it.
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  How how we run it? And we run it with.
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  But I look back at the Fordham stats from 2016 and basically it
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  was a 3-2 to run the pass and that's kind of more heads deal
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  to always will run them past the passing game though, it's not
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  completely. Forgotten about.
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  I can't wait for Brian to get into looking at some of these
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  schemes of what we can expect, obviously being a tight ends
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  coach. I think we're going to get some,
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  I mean, he coached just seki, he coached Fair Booth, he's coached
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  quite a few number of tight ends who are in the league in at the
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  top end. So you know really love this
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  about him. It was one of those names when
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  you heard it, you read it immediately.
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  Liked it. But Brian, let's flip to the
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  next position because two weeks ago, we were here in light
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  brown. We were here in Tony Washington,
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  who work, and this will, this was out in public, this wasn't
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  behind pay walls, this wasn't somebody dming us saying, hey,
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  this is what we're hearing, these were public
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  acknowledgements. And then all of a sudden It
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  comes down or hiring somebody Virginia connections.
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  And then literally literally fontelle Minds is named the wide
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  receiver coach on tell Minds plated UVA back from 2007 to
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  2008, usually 2000. 22 2006. So obviously from some of their
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  better years in the early 2000s and then he spent three years
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  with the Bears in the pros and with him not long after getting
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  out of the pros again, right to coaching didn't waste any time,
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  start it out here at Hermitage high school, then move down a
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  challenge down in North Carolina coaching receivers and tight
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  ends. Then back to Richmond working at
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  U of r with wide receivers and tight ends from 13.
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  From 12 to 14, receiving 12 to 16 then moves over to JM you for
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  a couple good years there. Mike Houston years travel with
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  goes down to ECU after that receivers, and tight ends.
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  And then ODU last year he's a UVA grad.
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  You know, some people will hate it.
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  Some people will love it. When people just love the rub
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  salt in the wounds of UVA fans basically saying this is one of
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  your own and he'd rather coach here and that's fun, although
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  detectives that hated you got it.
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  Like, listen, Just has a good coach just has a good recruiter,
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  but what more did Coach Pratt talk about with fontelle are
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  obviously a lot of Virginia ties of also he has a big closeness
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  with a lot of former Hokies between guys that played in the
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  804 guys. He played against when he was at
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  UVA and obviously you played against some damn good hockey
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  teams when he was at UVA, there looks like he was one of the, I
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  guess, probably the first full class that grow.
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  Recruited during that transition there.
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  So, but I mean I noticed numerous numerous former Hokies
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  talking this guy up and that I think that speaks a lot to his
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  ability and, you know, he's worked with wide receiver, most
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  of his career. So he's definitely a season
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  coach on that front. So we're getting a pretty
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  seasoned coach, despite his age. And we're getting a guy that can
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  recruit the hell out of Virginia, and I think that's a
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  good One-two, punch right there. Yeah the recruiting thing is big
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  and you're hearing more stories about him.
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  That he's basically been recruiting Virginia his whole
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  career, it makes sense. Between U of r, j mu and ECU in
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  the way it looks. He's going to have who certain
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  territories very crucial to this state, but it just seems like
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  he's younger, has he experienced?
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  I know, a lot of people are likely coach tight, Tins.
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  And he was a tight in the majority of his game has been at
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  wide receiver since he became a coach.
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  Yeah, and, you know, it, it was just nice to see a lot of the
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  former Hokies that again, our era and I say of our era when we
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  were younger like congratulating happy, you know, joking with
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  them a little bit. Like, you know, you got to the
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  right side and it's one of these things to that.
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  Let's think here. Where I can put this.
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  He seems like he's going to be a culture fit because he you know
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  he seems one of those blue-collar guys, right?
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  Play tight end. Went to Hermitage and has worked
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  his way up here. Didn't didn't like come out and
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  immediately get a couple jobs and then he's, in D1, literally
• 24:07
  had to work his way up to D1. Yeah, and it's that whole thing
• 24:12
  we talking about blue, collar or flash.
• 24:14
  It seems like there's a lot of blue collar and him and I think
• 24:18
  a lot of us can pay dividends because it seems like this guy
• 24:23
  people like him. He's been recruiting coordinator
• 24:25
  at several different places. Yeah, I'm looking forward to see
• 24:28
  what he can do. I like, what I've already seen
• 24:31
  on the road, he was with Coach prize this week.
• 24:35
  They were down in the Oscar Smith down at a bunch of other
• 24:38
  schools in the 757 this week so far where they hit up today.
• 24:45
  Here it is. I have to go back and look, I'll
• 24:50
  Western Branch. Western Branch has some
• 24:52
  variation day as a big one down there.
• 24:57
  It's a big receiver down there that.
• 24:59
  Yeah, just I think he's going to be a good fit and again, I'm
• 25:08
  sure he's going to get some grief here.
• 25:09
  There between some of the 0 key players that are on the staff,
• 25:13
  but I think he's going to be a solid addition for Brian.
• 25:17
  Not done yet. Let's start getting to the
• 25:18
  support staff. And let's talk about this one
• 25:22
  for. We talk about this big one
• 25:24
  Brian, Chris hired, as the senior offensive analyst, if you
• 25:28
  didn't know, because it probably wasn't talked about or even
• 25:31
  spoken to with people. He was hired last year as just
• 25:36
  an offensive analyst for the old staff and he hangs around Chris.
• 25:41
  Native a Blacksburg brother coaches at Radford dad's a
• 25:45
  legendary coach. You know here hampden-sydney
• 25:50
  graduate Brian. Yeah I did a coached with pride
• 25:57
  down at Louisiana Lafayette with bustle back in the day.
• 26:00
  They both with Gaz together in 95, you know, or part of a UMass
• 26:06
  staff. That one the FCS back in the
• 26:08
  late 1990s was under Pelini up at Youngstown.
• 26:10
  State is, is 0 C. So he has a good track record.
• 26:13
  He does not have a lot of big known stops, but it seems like
• 26:17
  he's He's a very respected offensive mind.
• 26:22
  Yeah, it seems that way, you know, they gave him the senior
• 26:24
  analyst title there. And I think the thing that I
• 26:29
  like the most that when he was talking about Chris and he's
• 26:34
  like, yeah, he's a senior offensive analyst, but we might
• 26:36
  have him on the defensive side of the ball.
• 26:38
  And the more I got to think about is like, okay, this this
• 26:41
  kind of makes sense because As a defensive coach, sometimes you
• 26:46
  get a little bit into the weeds. It's nice to have a offensive
• 26:49
  minded person on your side of the ball and your practice feel
• 26:54
  that can say, hey If you do this, you know, we can counter
• 26:59
  with this. It's going to be pretty easy to
• 27:00
  take advantage of that scheme or that call, you know, whatever it
• 27:05
  may be having somebody that has that.
• 27:08
  Type of History has that relationship and can make those
• 27:12
  kind of calls on the defensive side.
• 27:14
  See things through the offenses eyes that's going to be big for
• 27:18
  them. I think and that's the type of
• 27:21
  role I kind of envisioned when Pride was talking about, you
• 27:24
  know, you might see him on the defensive side of the ball.
• 27:26
  All as an offensive analyst. So, looking forward to see what
• 27:30
  Chris can do. Obviously, he was there last
• 27:32
  year, so let's see if he can keep it moving.
• 27:36
  Yeah. And again, guy probably was
• 27:38
  connections around the, you know, the local area there as
• 27:42
  far as recruiting goes, I know they can't touch it but never
• 27:45
  hurts to have somebody that's in somebody else's ear.
• 27:48
  All right, Brian, this one was big.
• 27:51
  And we got notified by this and we kind of got tea leaves that
• 27:59
  it was a if you like if you watched in the 2000 you're going
• 28:03
  to love it. Well, first of all, that makes
• 28:07
  your head go 1,000 miles an hour because there were so many great
• 28:09
  players in the 2000's. And then we finally got when
• 28:14
  that it was going to be Xavier adibi, hires a defensive
• 28:17
  analyst, Ron's talked about it. And I cannot remember Brian on
• 28:23
  our Mount Rushmore. Yes.
• 28:25
  No, I can't remember that far back.
• 28:28
  I'm getting too old for this shit.
• 28:30
  I want to say he made it. I can't remember though, either
• 28:33
  way he will. He belongs there for sure
• 28:35
  Brian's favorite line, but he's definitely in the discussion, no
• 28:39
  doubt. No.
• 28:41
  But anyway, if you don't know, if you're younger Hokies fan,
• 28:44
  Xavier didin was the prototypical perfect hacker.
• 28:50
  Perfect, All-American, two-time all-sec selection, two-time ACC
• 28:55
  Champion. Fourth-round draft, pick of
• 28:57
  Houston played several years was inducted into the Hall of Fame
• 29:01
  this past season and Having that guy back.
• 29:07
  This is culture is one thing that's that's huge but he's been
• 29:13
  building his resume up for a few years here.
• 29:15
  Now you know he started at Arkansas as an analyst and then
• 29:18
  worked his way into d 2 and basically had his defense at
• 29:23
  Texas A&M Commerce. Giving up under 215 yards, a
• 29:26
  game under 13 points. A game was one of the finalists
• 29:31
  for like what is it coordinator of the year?
• 29:36
  R4d to them in a short period of time as basically exploded on
• 29:42
  the scene and luckily he's ours. Yeah, I mean, he was always
• 29:47
  really high IQ for a linebacker especially somebody that wasn't
• 29:51
  playing Mike. And I mean, he really did did a
• 29:55
  little bit of everything. You know, when we think about
• 29:59
  some of those big plays from a DB, we a lot of times, it says
• 30:02
  interceptions, it wasn't necessarily big hits.
• 30:05
  I mean, we, Those two but yeah some really key interceptions a
• 30:09
  couple going back for scores Zell really yeah pick six to the
• 30:15
  house, all my side of the field, there you go, good that day, but
• 30:19
  I still can and they always came in those opportune times 2,
• 30:23
  right? So yeah, having a guy that has
• 30:26
  that type of awareness has done the things that he's done in his
• 30:29
  short career as a coach, obviously, the NFL experience,
• 30:33
  mostly with the Texans, and, you know, just some of the things
• 30:40
  that Pride was talking about with the conversations he had
• 30:42
  with Bud Foster about him and obviously probably saying, you
• 30:46
  know, he knew who, who would he be was, you know, word is he was
• 30:52
  using some of the adibi, tape, when coaching areas at Penn
• 30:56
  State so, so it's great to have a guy like that back in the
• 31:02
  building and it's that whole thing of, as you know, we've
• 31:05
  heard about the alumni I called and stuff, but as you start
• 31:08
  bringing back in, don't get me wrong.
• 31:10
  Having guys like jgw and having Keyshawn and having Jack and
• 31:15
  them, yes, they did. Love to see, Vince Hall back to
• 31:21
  Robbie, but it would be great to see that.
• 31:27
  So But having him back it just says a lot.
• 31:33
  It understand it tells you promised as the culture but it's
• 31:36
  also one of those things as you look forward as quick as he's
• 31:39
  rose up. And I know he was an analyst, he
• 31:41
  was a D2 and now he's here. You know, if Chris Moore of is
• 31:46
  what we think he can be, you're going to have to have somebody
• 31:50
  in. Why not bring somebody in like
• 31:52
  you know Xavier? Yeah, because you know, no one
• 31:55
  will love this place more than him.
• 31:59
  Exactly exactly. And I think we're going to see
• 32:02
  some dividends from that pretty quick.
• 32:03
  So I'm looking forward to seeing what he does.
• 32:07
  He will type of role. He's going to have, is that
• 32:08
  defensive analyst? Yep.
• 32:11
  All right so we already mentioned it earlier but coach
• 32:14
  did give the white Galt as he calls them D.
• 32:18
  Big shout out talking about the offseason program.
• 32:20
  That's going to be starting pretty soon here.
• 32:22
  I don't think it started this week.
• 32:24
  I think it starts next week. I might be wrong, you know, but
• 32:29
  discussing him, basically, a DG is a pretty young guy, but
• 32:33
  obviously, he worked with his dad for so long at, you know,
• 32:36
  between Vanderbilt and Penn State.
• 32:39
  And, you know, He was just sitting there talking about,
• 32:41
  like deej is a real culture driver when I hear that.
• 32:46
  That tells me whatever problems to get done all season.
• 32:51
  Why's he knows that deej is going to put that into effect.
• 32:57
  Yeah. Yeah, the culture driver piece
• 32:58
  was big for me. He said as like-minded as
• 33:01
  anybody on the staff, he get thinking his pride, he gets the
• 33:06
  vision. I'm going to say right now No
• 33:10
  more Beachbody shit that's cooked.
• 33:19
  And I mean you know, when he talked about the the training
• 33:23
  process, you talked about the adversity that people go through
• 33:27
  in that and that really kind of tells you a lot about the
• 33:29
  character, the player, what they could handle, what they can
• 33:31
  handle, whether they're ready for ready for a leadership role,
• 33:35
  whether they lead, by example, whether they're more vocal I
• 33:40
  think him talking about that really gets that.
• 33:42
  He understands that that helped how important that relationship
• 33:45
  is especially early in a new regime here because you get a
• 33:50
  lay of the land. That's really going to be your
• 33:53
  first line of defense to kind of give you that lay of the land.
• 33:56
  Absolutely. The only thing he talked about,
• 33:58
  was he really trust the white in those adverse situations, and he
• 34:04
  talked about how this is how you recognize, who your leaders are
• 34:08
  earlier if you kind of go back when he Talks about, he knows
• 34:11
  Prime. He knows his vision.
• 34:13
  That's the guy you want, because if the guy knows your vision,
• 34:16
  your very like-minded, you're going to, he's going to be going
• 34:19
  in there saying, that's going to be a captain.
• 34:22
  Yep, that guy's not the captain but he's the dog on the fence.
• 34:26
  He also no one guys that you can push to get more out of them and
• 34:30
  guys that you need to kind of bring along.
• 34:32
  Yep. You know what a little with a
• 34:34
  little more thought, right? Some guys Thrive off getting
• 34:38
  pushed getting. Getting that get in their face
• 34:42
  and, and some guys need a little bit more mental, right?
• 34:44
  Need a little bit with some guys, Minds can't handle that
• 34:48
  the physical pushy and they can be superior athletes and then he
• 34:52
  great players and great individuals.
• 34:54
  But you have to do a little bit mean.
• 34:56
  I'm sure that's going to be related and I think that's why I
• 34:59
  keep hearing. I keep thinking like minded like
• 35:02
  minded I'm sure there's going to be times where you're probably
• 35:05
  going to hear. I'm sure probably uses it.
• 35:09
  This is what deej made you do and this is the same thing.
• 35:13
  I'm going to make you do. And if you have that sort of
• 35:16
  connection, essentially there's no change right from season or
• 35:21
  anything. It's all one level.
• 35:24
  This is how we're doing it. When coach has done with us,
• 35:27
  we're going to Deez Nuts, Deez, just like coach.
• 35:30
  No, there's no, like, this guy's really hard on us.
• 35:34
  Coaches. Softer arms or Coaches soft
• 35:37
  tones. And this guy tries to kill us.
• 35:39
  You, don't you keep to me? You can't have that in the sport
• 35:42
  football. It's got to be same level type
• 35:45
  stuff, man. And it looks like that's why
• 35:48
  these retired. And he's a young guy, and
• 35:51
  hopefully DG's around here for a long time, and we can get DJ
• 35:56
  five. Instead of gentrified, I Braun.
• 36:01
  When you heard that Pride did not reach out to Joe Rudolph.
• 36:06
  Joe Rudolph reached out to pry. What was your first thought?
• 36:11
  Damn, that's a that's a big mood energy right there because You
• 36:18
  know, we thought that this was something that Pride kind of
• 36:20
  went out on a limb for, but it sounds like Rudolph was looking
• 36:23
  for a changed. Had a had a connection with
• 36:26
  somebody else here. Virginia Tech got it.
• 36:28
  Got in touch with prai said, hey looking for a change, looking
• 36:32
  for a little bit closer to family and proud, laid out his
• 36:38
  vision, talked about what he wants to get from an offensive
• 36:40
  line and you know the next thing you know, we got Joe Rudolph as
• 36:45
  Their offensive line coach. Yeah, and we talked about it,
• 36:50
  two weeks ago, it got us a static and, you know, he
• 36:54
  mentioned really specifically how Joe was from the Pittsburgh
• 36:58
  area djoko. Keep it and listen to it is
• 37:02
  about a five, five and a half hour drive to take.
• 37:05
  So if you have a lot of family there, a lot easier from going
• 37:08
  there down at Blacksburg there to Madison.
• 37:11
  So, I wonder if that's a one of the big driving forces, but what
• 37:14
  got me jacked in when Price said, here's my vision of the
• 37:20
  offensive line and what he does is what I want to do.
• 37:24
  Braun. We know how there was constant
• 37:27
  offensive lines have been for years?
• 37:29
  We've talked about it before and when you hear that again and it
• 37:33
  starts the the the the everything starts turning
• 37:36
  inside. Like we're going to go try to
• 37:39
  literally slam it down people's throats.
• 37:42
  Yeah. And yeah, that's in the other
• 37:45
  piece. Is the recruiting piece is he is
• 37:50
  always recruited the western part of Pennsylvania, or the
• 37:53
  eastern part of Ohio. And those are areas that really,
• 37:58
  in the last five years, we've neglected, yeah, pulled some
• 38:03
  good players, out of those areas.
• 38:04
  So, love hearing that, we're going to get back into that
• 38:07
  football, Rich area the country. Yeah, I mean, you know we always
• 38:11
  talk about Penn State coming down in Virginia and eating our
• 38:14
  lunch, they've been eating our lunch in their own backyard to
• 38:17
  where we used to go with, with some degree of frequency that we
• 38:20
  really don't know, really tap into anymore.
• 38:22
  So getting a guy that really can has relationships with with
• 38:28
  coaches and families. There can really tap into those.
• 38:32
  I think that's going to be big for us, you know, aside from the
• 38:35
  on the field stuff which I think is probably in terms of on the
• 38:38
  field. This is probably the best.
• 38:39
  Just hire. I think of the staff in terms of
• 38:42
  what we can get from the all the feel product.
• 38:46
  So, absolutely. Alright.
• 38:48
  Next call, Brian in this was, I don't know if this was a shocker
• 38:53
  lady. It was to some of us but he
• 38:55
  talked about Sean Quinn. He talked about Sean Quinn being
• 38:57
  that first call. Was what what do you think this?
• 39:04
  What do you think? He just saw Quinn's.
• 39:08
  Why do you think Sean Combs the first call?
• 39:10
  Because he doesn't have the greatest resume.
• 39:14
  Why he seems like his personality really kind of fits
• 39:19
  the vision of what prize trying to do.
• 39:23
  And I think he gets the, you know, we talked about the swag
• 39:25
  and then the blue collar mentality, kind of a hybrid, you
• 39:28
  know, I think he kind of understood understands that,
• 39:31
  right? He's a guy that's had to grind.
• 39:34
  He's also a guy that's had to coach players that, you know,
• 39:40
  we're probably bringing some from different areas, so, I
• 39:44
  think that it wasn't just the the blue-collar mentality.
• 39:47
  I think he's bringing a little bit of everything there, but
• 39:50
  he's a guy that had to grind for a lot of years.
• 39:52
  He's a guy that probably got passed over for a couple
• 39:55
  opportunities throughout the way and I think price also a good
• 39:58
  opportunity to get a guy that really align with his vision on
• 40:02
  the staff and it really. He's been crushing it since he's
• 40:05
  been here. I mean, we see him on Twitter,
• 40:07
  dude for a 49 year old coach. He is on Twitter and really
• 40:14
  engaging with the fan base engaging with the folks that
• 40:16
  he's visiting on the, on the recruiting Trail.
• 40:19
  Oh yeah, I mean outside of cheetah, he's tweeting more than
• 40:22
  anybody else and found a great burger joint while visiting up a
• 40:26
  note of this week and literally every coach he'd come in contact
• 40:30
  with, he's made sure to put them on Twitter and thanking them and
• 40:33
  dip and then not just saying, thank you for letting me be
• 40:36
  here. Everything is a little snippet,
• 40:39
  you know, one of the coaches. I'm Mentioned.
• 40:41
  Hey good, thank you for having me at this school coach and yada
• 40:44
  yada. Hey, it was great.
• 40:45
  Talking, the defense for you. He's making sure he's like that
• 40:49
  little Personal Touch on every single tweet for each coach and,
• 40:54
  you know, I mean maybe that was it maybe in Brent prize, mine,
• 41:00
  Sean Quinn should have been a division.
• 41:02
  One football coach ten years ago you said pasta I see him as a
• 41:08
  glue guy he's not going to stand out but he's the glue guy.
• 41:12
  The guy that can bring everybody together because you know He
• 41:16
  grinded for years. He took, you know, he coaching
• 41:20
  the HBCU down surveillance State.
• 41:22
  Yeah, and took them from literally, the one of the worst
• 41:25
  teams in the country to win a conference.
• 41:27
  So if somebody says, well, we can't do this bullshit, I went
• 41:31
  to the worst and we won. Let's get this together.
• 41:35
  All right, Braun. Lets flip on this talk about
• 41:37
  recruiting we talked about Quentin and his tweets while
• 41:40
  he's been recruiting. He said it out, right?
• 41:45
  First week exclusive for the state of Virginia outside of a
• 41:48
  trip to Georgia. Although we did see Brad the
• 41:51
  wind down there, doing some other work.
• 41:53
  I don't know if that's holding on the Daquan or potentially
• 41:55
  other guys, but it looks like pretty much every coach is in VA
• 42:01
  this week. Yeah, everybody's patrolling
• 42:05
  Virginia seems like, except for maybe Brad Glenn.
• 42:09
  Looks to be making a trip back down to Georgia.
• 42:13
  They made a trip, I think. Week to visit right as well.
• 42:18
  They were at his high school down in Perry.
• 42:22
  And what they've done in Virginia is pretty impressive
• 42:25
  because we've seen you JC in the 804, we've seen minds and
• 42:32
  cheetah out. In the 757, we've seen Pearson
• 42:36
  and Marv and Quinn up in Nova. You know, we've seen heck more,
• 42:43
  I'm proud and 757. Well Marv was out in the valley
• 42:47
  today. Yeah, well gesture, I mean in
• 42:50
  few holds down and with Ville. That's every section of the
• 42:54
  state, every section of the state's get we're going to see
• 42:58
  Holton the in our stomping grounds, by the end of the week,
• 43:01
  man. I definitely think he's taking
• 43:04
  the 58 Corridor until he gets to about South Hill and then he's
• 43:08
  probably going to cut back but it's just awesome to see that
• 43:11
  and it's also to see the interactions and it's also sting
• 43:14
  and we've already talked about, they get it, get it on social
• 43:16
  media, get it like this is where we're going and you see them
• 43:21
  going to not only to the Name brand school.
• 43:23
  Yeah, you know JC was an LLC burdell seabirds won numerous
• 43:27
  state titles the last few years Prime them an Oscar Smith.
• 43:35
  Gz. I'm blanking here.
• 43:37
  Cheetah was a tedious. Yeah, I mean she's old school.
• 43:43
  He's old school. He was at Hampton, you know?
• 43:46
  They were decreed today. I mean, if we can just find two
• 43:51
  players from Deep Creek of the caliber of Hall.
• 43:57
  And tap, we be great. Yeah, I mean, It's all you need
• 44:04
  is you seeing them also go to schools that don't produce as
• 44:07
  much talent. And this shows you strategy
• 44:11
  because get in there early because every school at some
• 44:16
  point puts together or puts out a big-time Talent.
• 44:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:23
  This isn't going to be any more of a highlight, a handful of
• 44:27
  schools that we've had success at and then Hammer that And then
• 44:32
  hope we make some inroads with some of the top top. 10 recruits
• 44:36
  at the state and land maybe one or two.
• 44:40
  This is going to be canvassing the entire State Building those
• 44:43
  relationships. And when you finally get, you
• 44:46
  know, one or two guys, start coming up through there, you got
• 44:49
  that relationship in place. You can have those those those
• 44:52
  discussions right off the bat and kind of get in first with
• 44:57
  these with these kids. And I think that's a that's
• 45:00
  important. You know, I think we definitely
• 45:03
  neglected the boots on the ground, got mentality under the
• 45:08
  last staff. In terms of sitting guys into
• 45:10
  the schools consistently and not just when there's a top-five
• 45:15
  player at that school. Yep.
• 45:17
  And that's what you can do because you don't have the
• 45:20
  relationships and this is a relationship business alright?
• 45:25
  The other cool part was kind of Brent Pride, pulling out what
• 45:28
  his vision of essentially, the big recruiting footprint.
• 45:32
  The six hour radius around Blacksburg and that encompasses,
• 45:37
  North Carolina, South Carolina, the DMV, obviously,
• 45:41
  Pennsylvania. Central in the East Tennessee,
• 45:45
  along with all of these Lee Virginia.
• 45:49
  That's I think that's what we feel.
• 45:51
  We got to do but what it did it did it shock?
• 45:54
  You wear what he said when he talked about opportunities
• 45:57
  elsewhere. Yeah, so I think the
• 46:02
  opportunities elsewhere is definitely going to be some of
• 46:05
  our traditional stomping grounds with Delray Beach Jacksonville.
• 46:11
  I think those are going to be areas that we still tap into,
• 46:15
  you're going to get I mean if you talk about six hour radius
• 46:17
  you're talking about the Greater Atlanta area to pretty much
• 46:22
  right on the edge on it. That's like six and a half,
• 46:24
  right? Yeah, right.
• 46:27
  Yeah. Roundup.
• 46:29
  It's six hours and 20. It's not over the six and a
• 46:31
  half. Mark, we were going around back
• 46:33
  down to six. We're good.
• 46:34
  Let's, let's rate Atlanta here. But I mean, we've done well in
• 46:39
  Georgia. Obviously, we got a coach in
• 46:41
  Georgia, you know, finishing out the recruitment down there with
• 46:46
  right and some others. So, I think George is still in
• 46:50
  play. I think parts of Florida are
• 46:51
  still in play, but like, he said in his previous comments, I
• 46:55
  mean, we're we talked about Where we're going to aim.
• 47:03
  We're not crossing the Mississippi, unless there's
• 47:05
  already an established relationship with a family or a
• 47:10
  player or a coach in those areas.
• 47:15
  So, you don't have a reason that ties you back to the state of
• 47:17
  Virginia or to Virginia Tech. We're not just throwing darts
• 47:21
  across the Mississippi, his words, not mine, Vicki, Dortch
• 47:25
  across the Mississippi. So why like Kim saying it?
• 47:28
  Like that is if there is a kid. For example, dad.
• 47:32
  As a BT Alum and it's an upcoming recruit, we're going to
• 47:36
  go talk to that kid. Yep.
• 47:38
  Why dad went here? Mom went here or you know it
• 47:42
  could be one of those things where, you know, you kind of
• 47:46
  think a deep. He's been coaching out of Texas.
• 47:47
  If, if Xavier adibi, has a great relationship with a school down
• 47:52
  there and says this kid likes it, he liked me.
• 47:55
  Let's go after. Yep.
• 47:57
  What we're not going to see is we're not going to see our
• 47:59
  resources poured into that if you're going to be specific.
• 48:03
  So if we get a kid from Colorado, don't be shocked if
• 48:06
  you get it. Get from California, don't be
• 48:08
  shocked. But read why what's the reason
• 48:11
  why we went out and got those kids, there's going to be a very
• 48:14
  specific and targeted reason for going after these players.
• 48:18
  I'd say probably the only exception, maybe a transfer
• 48:21
  portal, add true just because depending on, you know, one or
• 48:26
  two years of Eligibility, it might be worth a gamble on on
• 48:29
  going after a bigger time player.
• 48:32
  For that one or two years. Right?
• 48:34
  But if we're talking about high school recruits.
• 48:36
  Yeah, I think we're sticking with that radius outside of
• 48:40
  again. Maybe dipping down into Georgia
• 48:42
  and Florida. Yeah, consistent basis.
• 48:44
  But the whole thing with the Georgia and Florida stuff is a
• 48:47
  lot of those schools have connections to Tech.
• 48:50
  Yeah, well, I mean, we talk about the all those
• 48:52
  Jacksonville, the Jacksonville schools edel raid.
• 48:55
  I mean, yeah. Atlantic and all those places
• 48:57
  down there and there are numerous ones, they have an
• 49:00
  alumni. So it's one of those things
• 49:01
  where It's like call up David Clowney.
• 49:04
  Hey, finally like this kid. There you go.
• 49:07
  There's your connection. David Cline is on my mother can
• 49:10
  need to go talk to the kid. The other piece that I don't
• 49:13
  think this is shocking thing. This is just a day and age where
• 49:15
  in is, he talked about two things.
• 49:19
  He talked about the six hour radius is because that's a
• 49:21
  drive-in. Yeah, six hours anywhere you
• 49:26
  leave it. You know.
• 49:28
  You want to go see somebody for a weekend.
• 49:31
  You leave at 3:00 in the afternoon, you there?
• 49:34
  But before the middle of the night, you have multiple days to
• 49:37
  spend and get back to your home. And he talked about how
• 49:41
  important that was, especially for these young men to be able
• 49:44
  to have, and he made sure, he mention this, their parents,
• 49:47
  their coaches, their uncle's their family, their handlers,
• 49:51
  their trainers, to be able to come, see him during those tough
• 49:54
  times, that it's having a tough time in the all season.
• 49:59
  And you know let's say it's one of these kids who you know from
• 50:02
  Columbia South Carolina or Charleston getting the car were
• 50:05
  there in a day. Talk to him, get him straight
• 50:07
  come back. It's like Charlotte.
• 50:10
  Charlotte Area kids, you're talking about a less than the
• 50:12
  three hour drive. So I mean Richmond, three Beach
• 50:15
  for in and out, even the kids, he talked about, you know,
• 50:19
  cultivating those re cultivating those relationship up in
• 50:21
  Pennsylvania, with Harrisburg pits, Philly, Jersey, four, and
• 50:26
  a half, five and a half hour drives.
• 50:28
  Yeah. Easy in Easy roads in to
• 50:31
  Blacksburg and it's like it's like again, he understands the
• 50:35
  relationship piece that what you have it, where you can put
• 50:40
  people who this kid is comfortable around and they can
• 50:43
  get here. When we need them to, it's going
• 50:45
  to make that kids experience. A hell of a lot better.
• 50:47
  Absolutely, absolutely man. Alright, so the next thing he
• 50:53
  mentioned and again he had already shout it out.
• 50:55
  You've already shout-out. Needs he talked about how might
• 50:57
  Villa Grana was kind of put in charge of the fighting up,
• 51:01
  Virginia. As we mentioned, we've seen
• 51:02
  where the guys were and he went in their private.
• 51:06
  Have this conversation which is I love this because prize their
• 51:10
  boss, you tell the boss, whatever he wants to hear,
• 51:13
  right? He took the look Grana in and
• 51:17
  just kind of asked him. Where do you have the best
• 51:19
  relationship? and you know, I think that's why
• 51:24
  we're seeing where we're seeing certain guys at because, you
• 51:29
  know, Coach Compton hitting us up here.
• 51:33
  Huge things to have the players having their people present.
• 51:36
  Yeah. Massive.
• 51:38
  Because I'm but you know, he basically was trying to find the
• 51:43
  lagrange's goal of that meeting was find Connections in cinnamon
• 51:48
  there and I think that's big because it when you look at how
• 51:52
  the state's been divided up, you're seeing you guys that have
• 51:57
  had success in those areas before you're seeing mines down
• 51:59
  in the beach, you know? Got cheated on the peninsula.
• 52:04
  You got Bowing in the DMV you got you guys are really getting
• 52:10
  put where they kind of have a footprint.
• 52:12
  You got JC in the 804. He's had some solid success
• 52:15
  recruiting guys in the 804 and JC probably in terms of knowing
• 52:21
  the lay of the land, probably as good or better of anybody on the
• 52:25
  staff. So he can kind of fill in the
• 52:28
  gaps where some, we're some, maybe some other guys are not
• 52:30
  quite as strong. So That's why you have a guy
• 52:33
  like Jayceon staff aside from the Virginia Tech connections,
• 52:36
  aside from how good he is on the field.
• 52:41
  Yeah. It's true.
• 52:43
  So the way the state was divided up and then you know the the
• 52:49
  last piece you know on this sort of high school recruiting and
• 52:53
  we've already mentioned it with the photos and powder.
• 52:56
  It seems like there's conversations it's not just what
• 52:59
  coach by said we don't want to walk in and just give a
• 53:01
  handshake and a smile on the picture and we want to get to
• 53:05
  know Everybody at the school. So I mentioned earlier JC was in
• 53:10
  LC Birds building talking with an old basketball player that he
• 53:14
  went to school with you. You they were talking to
• 53:18
  principles. It's like, if you get to know
• 53:21
  where these kids are from, it's it's more likely going to help
• 53:25
  you out in the long run, you know, it's, you know, have a
• 53:31
  hokey in the building and you're recruiting a kid, it'll help
• 53:34
  with another Hokies Talking Tool.
• 53:36
  Absolutely. And you know I don't think this
• 53:38
  is going to necessarily you know win us all the battles but at
• 53:44
  the same time it strategically puts us in as good a position as
• 53:48
  we can be in from Jump Street and then after that, you let the
• 53:52
  chips fall where they may. But I think the days of us not
• 53:57
  being in on a kid, early enough are gone not having the
• 54:01
  relationships with the coaches or the handlers to move forward
• 54:06
  with that or Own gone. And I think the days of us
• 54:10
  giving up on a guy, just because a big dog jumps in to the party
• 54:15
  are gone. I think we've got some.
• 54:18
  I think we got some guys on the staff.
• 54:19
  Who go to the nail with the big boys, it's hard.
• 54:22
  As they can and I love to see that now.
• 54:25
  Let's not, let's not do this. Brent prowls very upfront,
• 54:30
  talking about the transfer portal that he views it on equal
• 54:33
  footing. you know, with high school recruiting nowadays and,
• 54:40
  you know, I tend to agree with him because there's a, we talked
• 54:48
  about it earlier this month Grand.
• 54:50
  There's thousand kids in the pool know some of those kids
• 54:54
  allows kids can play. Probably a really good game of
• 54:58
  football, but they just need the opportunity.
• 55:02
  Yeah, I mean you're not going to find, you know, you're not going
• 55:05
  to feel your roster out that way but you know the transfer portal
• 55:08
  is going to be your your whole filler.
• 55:11
  Your immediate impact player on occasion.
• 55:15
  And that's what he's seems like he's going to use it.
• 55:18
  As obviously talked about, you know, he was happy with kind of
• 55:21
  the progress. We've made on that front too.
• 55:24
  Kind of close out. The start of the spring
• 55:27
  semester. You've got four already end you
• 55:30
  know, possibly two more. You're coming through.
• 55:32
  So that's really big. And I think we're only going to
• 55:37
  see more of that as we get into spring workouts, we get into
• 55:40
  spring practice, we're going to start seeing a little bit more,
• 55:43
  probably attrition from the current roster.
• 55:45
  Your start seeing some more movement in the transfer portal
• 55:49
  as we close out spring and then get into summer workouts.
• 55:52
  So look for that. He said he expected another wave
• 55:56
  after Spring ball. So you know buckle up for some
• 55:59
  more portal chaos guys because it's going to To be coming?
• 56:03
  Yep, because you mentioned he talked about, you know, talked
• 56:07
  about having you know the winter workouts and spring.
• 56:12
  We're going to eat some people out.
• 56:13
  You going to eat some people like no, this isn't what I want
• 56:15
  to do. I'd rather go elsewhere.
• 56:19
  And, you know, we've already got four in You know, two y, two,
• 56:24
  quarterbacks two wide receivers are there potentially more
• 56:27
  coming, we hope so because we know we're talking about in a
• 56:30
  few minutes here. There's the holes.
• 56:32
  We feel like need to be filled and it's going to be interesting
• 56:35
  to see how they fill them. Now, the other piece that he
• 56:39
  talked about, was you cover crew.
• 56:41
  He basically that seems like he's for that.
• 56:44
  He specifically mentioned Lackawanna, do code seems like
• 56:48
  like a wanted to be T. Let's go ahead and get them
• 56:50
  going. Looks like the transfer portal,
• 56:54
  the Juco, these are guys who have been, they're older,
• 56:58
  they're more probably physically developed in high school kids
• 57:02
  and to me it's something we have not taken advantage of as much.
• 57:06
  I know Brianna Marie in a more are no or two, but it's like
• 57:11
  these are on previously. Yeah, to Dorado ever forget him.
• 57:16
  Ha ha ha. But it's like there's the
• 57:19
  opportunity with these guys, the same way and if these guys are
• 57:22
  true coming in as Juniors. Well, if they don't have the
• 57:25
  football sharks yet, right? But they have the physical body.
• 57:28
  You have three years with them. They can rush for you.
• 57:33
  Yeah. You have you have a lot more
• 57:34
  opportunity. You know, you talked about, you
• 57:36
  know, you got the high school kids for four to five.
• 57:38
  You get the Juco kids for 2, to 3, 3 to 4, 4 to get the the
• 57:42
  portal kids, usually 4122. So, and in the portal sometimes
• 57:47
  even More obviously. Now with the one-time transfer
• 57:49
  rule, you're getting some some true freshman coming in some
• 57:52
  redshirt freshman, some you know, Redshirt sophomore.
• 57:56
  So you're getting you know, three sometimes three to four
• 57:58
  years, even with those transfers.
• 58:02
  So it's going to be really interesting to see what I think.
• 58:04
  The Juco area is something that probably has been underutilized
• 58:09
  historically by Virginia Tech. I think, you know, you don't
• 58:13
  want to see a ton of players coming coming that route every
• 58:17
  But you know, I think there's probably an opportunity for one
• 58:20
  maybe two excited Winkle that's a handful of cycle.
• 58:25
  Somewhere between 225 okay and at position not necessarily need
• 58:30
  but positions either the depth where it's like we're going to
• 58:35
  go look at this offensive lineman from this Juco, he's six
• 58:38
  foot four, he's already 310 pounds.
• 58:41
  We don't need to worry about him.
• 58:42
  Getting the weight room and gain weight.
• 58:44
  What we need to figure out real quick is can we teach him
• 58:47
  technique and get him on the field?
• 58:49
  Not this year. But next year?
• 58:51
  Where you swing guard? He's a swing tackle, whatever.
• 58:55
  Yeah and no it's like give these guys a chance cause some of
• 58:59
  these guys go there because they don't have the grades and then
• 59:03
  they work themselves into good saying give the guy's a chance.
• 59:07
  Sure, Brian. We're gonna hit this real quick.
• 59:10
  We don't have the spring game yet, but basically cry said
• 59:13
  we're pretty close. Do you imagine we get something
• 59:17
  at the latest next weekend, next weekend.
• 59:20
  Yeah, I could be wrong, but I think we get something by the
• 59:24
  end of the month. So, So you just need to gain
• 59:26
  date. It's it all out.
• 59:28
  So we need painted ship. I don't even care.
• 59:30
  What spring practice starts yet. I will in like a week, but just
• 59:34
  give me the game date. Please put it on a good date
• 59:38
  where you want to know. We want to put it on the
• 59:40
  calendar because we will be there.
• 59:41
  We are trying to be there. You can guarantee I ain't
• 59:45
  guaranteeing it, I got three. All right, um, last piece is
• 59:50
  Braun was last two pieces. Let's look first of all, you've
• 59:55
  mentioned before, we're not a mom-and-pop anymore.
• 59:59
  Stewart, Carter director of football equipment comes in out
• 1:00:03
  of Penn State Cami Nation. Looks like she's gonna be hired.
• 1:00:06
  And some sort of recruiting on campus role.
• 1:00:09
  He OG of the weight room is back, Jarrett Ferguson looking
• 1:00:13
  Like, he's going to be hired as one of the assistant strength
• 1:00:15
  conditions coach. And then, one sort of
• 1:00:17
  interesting piece Shayne Graham was offered a position by coach
• 1:00:21
  pry. Looks like Shane's going to take
• 1:00:23
  some time to step away from coaching, but you know, it's
• 1:00:28
  like that. Support staff, just keeps
• 1:00:30
  getting bigger. Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  And Shane talked about, you know, he said one of the upsides
• 1:00:35
  of that he's not on this staff but the fact he's not on any
• 1:00:39
  other staff is that he can, you know, let his hokey flag fly A
• 1:00:43
  lot more freely now, right. He can get up to games.
• 1:00:47
  He can you know, actively root for the Holyoke.
• 1:00:51
  He's on. Yeah, Twitter, a little bit
• 1:00:53
  stronger than he has a recent years.
• 1:00:55
  So I think that's that's something in his comfort zone.
• 1:00:58
  I wish him well, in whatever. The next venture is for him, and
• 1:01:02
  look forward to maybe catching him up at a game.
• 1:01:04
  Sometime this fall. But yeah, I mean the moves were
• 1:01:09
  making off the field is definitely, you know, that
• 1:01:12
  signal that we're not mom-and-pop anymore.
• 1:01:16
  We're running this thing like a business because it is it's a
• 1:01:21
  big Dollar business at that. We're sit the last piece here
• 1:01:26
  before we go to break because we're an hour and we're still in
• 1:01:30
  the presser. Does it shock you that someone
• 1:01:33
  like Brent Pride leans on his dad?
• 1:01:36
  Or someone like James Franklin for trusting, a lot of the
• 1:01:40
  decision-making. Not because, when he talks about
• 1:01:43
  how he built his staff, and how he plans to recruit Virginia,
• 1:01:48
  he's talking about communication and relationships.
• 1:01:51
  So, obviously, if that's important to you the person and
• 1:01:56
  the people that you're to lean on is going to be your Mentor in
• 1:01:59
  the sport and your father. So, I mean, it doesn't surprise
• 1:02:02
  me that he's reaching out to those.
• 1:02:04
  Those people in his Circle and leaning on them when it comes to
• 1:02:08
  some of those bigger decisions. Nope.
• 1:02:11
  Not at all. And I think it's pretty cool.
• 1:02:13
  He, he mentioned that what? Every wide receiver coach
• 1:02:17
  interviewed, he talked with his dad about, I'm assuming his dad
• 1:02:20
  as the background and wider scooter and they say he sat in
• 1:02:24
  on some of the interviews. So could you imagine like doing
• 1:02:27
  the zoom? And the hell is that?
• 1:02:30
  It's Dad. Wide receivers for 40 years
• 1:02:36
  like, oh, hey, that's cool. Also new here.
• 1:02:40
  Alright, brown one last piece. If you have not seen folks, the
• 1:02:45
  salaries of these guys, I'm going to, I'm going to pass out
• 1:02:50
  or specify, go to Tech Sidelines, and look at David
• 1:02:53
  Cunningham's article on this. It is from the 14th.
• 1:02:59
  So just a few days ago, lazy. It all out.
• 1:03:03
  Five point two, five million by point two million run paying
• 1:03:08
  coordinators. Both over 800,000 lowest-paid
• 1:03:12
  positional coach at 275. Basically right at two and a
• 1:03:18
  half million for each side of the ball.
• 1:03:20
  Yep, Big Bowl pick. Take boy moves and you know I
• 1:03:24
  like kind of how things are structured.
• 1:03:26
  I know we had talked a little bit about you know some folks
• 1:03:29
  were shocked at that bar of hit up at 8:25 for a first-time
• 1:03:34
  coordinator and I'm telling you and I've set it on here, we
• 1:03:37
  talked about it before, the starting price for a coordinator
• 1:03:41
  at power 5 is now eight hundred thousand dollars.
• 1:03:44
  Yep. That's the starting price.
• 1:03:48
  So, I mean, we're just above that at 8:25 Bowens, just just a
• 1:03:52
  little higher than that at 8:50. And, and that again, that's the
• 1:03:56
  going rate for for big-time coordinators.
• 1:04:02
  Now, we could go and get another Braddock or Nelson and we can
• 1:04:04
  pay them, five hundred thousand dollars.
• 1:04:08
  But we don't want to go back to that, do we?
• 1:04:10
  Nope. I don't think we ever want that.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah, so I'm good with the way everything is structured here,
• 1:04:18
  you know, you got the running game coordinator and passing
• 1:04:22
  game coordinator making a little bit more.
• 1:04:25
  You got defensive recruiting coordinator Derek Jones making a
• 1:04:29
  little bit more position wise as is JC price as associate head
• 1:04:35
  coach. But you know, structure top to
• 1:04:38
  bottom, I really like the way way the salary set up.
• 1:04:42
  It gives us a little more flexibility for some of those
• 1:04:44
  off the field roles and analysts roles.
• 1:04:47
  Some of those are still coming down the pike.
• 1:04:50
  So look for maybe a couple more hires in that capacity in the
• 1:04:53
  coming weeks. Yeah, there is.
• 1:04:56
  And again they talked about, you know, old staff was 3.5 million,
• 1:05:02
  we're over 5 million. Now we're basically what second
• 1:05:05
  highest in the They were trying to again.
• 1:05:11
  The what is it? The you always say the boats
• 1:05:13
  rise ships, you know, high tide raises All Ships or some shit.
• 1:05:19
  You go that and this is what it is.
• 1:05:22
  This is your High Tide football and if you're paying those guys,
• 1:05:26
  the expectation is we're going to make more money there, we're
• 1:05:29
  going to be in bigger game, going to get bigger contracts,
• 1:05:32
  and that's, that's kind of what it is.
• 1:05:35
  Again, go check out David's article on textile on very,
• 1:05:38
  worth your time. Now Brian, before we get Get
• 1:05:40
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• 1:06:14
  All right. So Brian, let's look.
• 1:06:15
  Next let's talk about the portal real quick because obviously
• 1:06:18
  there's been some movement there and in the last few days, since
• 1:06:23
  the last time we talked, we picked up to Pretty One really
• 1:06:26
  big commitment and then one kind of makes sense commitment.
• 1:06:29
  Let's start with Jacob, Lew wide receiver out of Temple. 6-foot
• 1:06:36
  185, back in 2019. Absolutely blew up 95.
• 1:06:42
  Ian's 1067. Excuse me, thousand 67 yards
• 1:06:48
  over 11 has tapered off in the last few years but you know,
• 1:06:54
  kind of seeing what he had to work with it Temple.
• 1:06:56
  Quarterback wise, it makes sense.
• 1:07:00
  But he's coming here and I don't know how this is.
• 1:07:04
  But / 24/7. He's rated higher than Tavian
• 1:07:07
  Robinson III. Can't see that.
• 1:07:09
  But how do you feel about Jaden blue Comin?
• 1:07:13
  Yeah, I mean, For the transfers. It's really hard to, I think put
• 1:07:18
  a gauge on that just because there's a disparity in the level
• 1:07:23
  of competition to a degree. There's a disparity in kind of
• 1:07:29
  who They matched up against the play, the play calling the play
• 1:07:34
  Styles. It's a little bit harder there
• 1:07:37
  to get a good gauge on that overall, Italian, Talent
• 1:07:40
  ability. But I mean, I think it's a good
• 1:07:43
  good, good commit for us because it definitely shows up a
• 1:07:47
  position that was kind of bleeding a little bit as a
• 1:07:51
  result of transfers, as a result of a couple guys moving on.
• 1:07:56
  So Looking forward to see what Jaden can do.
• 1:07:59
  I think he immediately has some sort of role in the two deep.
• 1:08:04
  We'll see if he's pushing for a starting role.
• 1:08:06
  I think he probably will. So, you know, we'll see on that
• 1:08:09
  one. And then, you know, we had
• 1:08:11
  another one, Stephen Gosnell. Benji's little Benji's Big
• 1:08:15
  Brother, Benji's Big, Brother UNC transfer That's big because,
• 1:08:23
  you know, you're eating off a inner conference rival Rivals
• 1:08:27
  plate there, you know, I know he wasn't getting a whole lot of
• 1:08:31
  push, but it, but anytime you can, you can steal one from that
• 1:08:37
  school down south. It's a good day.
• 1:08:41
  It is. And, you know, that's not a
• 1:08:43
  little bit bigger than blaming 62.
• 1:08:45
  He's to 10. So a little bit more body of a
• 1:08:48
  receiver. He was a three-star when he came
• 1:08:50
  out, he Has not gotten much playtime at all down in North
• 1:08:53
  Carolina and then obviously with big brother little brother
• 1:08:57
  coming here, it's really cool to see.
• 1:09:00
  It's really cool to see again, Brothers on the same team and
• 1:09:04
  it's going to be really interesting to see what he looks
• 1:09:06
  like again being that bigger body and I just kind of go back
• 1:09:10
  through like Jalen Jones Duane laufen and some of the guys
• 1:09:13
  already here he's kind of going to be the biggest body of old.
• 1:09:17
  All of them unless I'm missing somebody but I'm gonna say yeah.
• 1:09:21
  No, I mean, he's in terms of guys that got serious run.
• 1:09:24
  I mean, he's definitely a guy that, you know, it could
• 1:09:29
  potentially have a role outside just because he is a bigger
• 1:09:31
  body, probably a little bit more of a possession.
• 1:09:34
  Receiver, a stick mover than I got, it's going to be a big
• 1:09:37
  impact in the downfield game. So you got to you got to have
• 1:09:42
  guys like that. I think, you know, size-wise I
• 1:09:45
  guess pay youths, the only one probably in the same ballpark,
• 1:09:48
  right? But different receiver.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah. Different, different type of
• 1:09:52
  receiver, for sure. Same body Master well, you know,
• 1:09:57
  definitely, it's one of those, we'll see.
• 1:10:03
  That's why we want to know when the spring game is because you
• 1:10:06
  get to go to the spring game. And you see these guys play,
• 1:10:09
  sometimes things just pop out at you different.
• 1:10:12
  All right, hon to of our former quarterbacks committed in the
• 1:10:15
  last few weeks to play elsewhere knocks.
• 1:10:18
  Hey them going to head down to FCS McNeese, State and
• 1:10:20
  Louisiana. Anna and starting quarterback
• 1:10:23
  last year Braxton Burmeister goes back out, west.
• 1:10:26
  San Diego State to a G5. I don't think that there's any
• 1:10:31
  shock with the knocks Caterham one, and maybe a little shocked
• 1:10:36
  with Braxton. I thought he might land at a
• 1:10:38
  power five somewhere. But, you know, by all means, you
• 1:10:42
  know, San Diego State football isn't exactly wretched.
• 1:10:45
  So, What any thoughts on? Where they landed or did they
• 1:10:50
  land exactly where they should land?
• 1:10:52
  I mean, I think not Knox. Has a good fit there, you know,
• 1:10:56
  good for him at Landing, their FCS McNeese State.
• 1:11:00
  I think that's going to be a good move for him.
• 1:11:01
  I think he probably can get some, get some run their
• 1:11:04
  Braxton, it'll be interesting to see.
• 1:11:07
  A lot of people were talking about, if he was going to stick
• 1:11:10
  with our five, you might have to change positions, you know, ends
• 1:11:15
  up San Diego State, Mike Have to change positions will see again
• 1:11:19
  it's going to depend on what the coaching staff has in store for
• 1:11:24
  him, but I think probably it's a pretty good fit for him being a
• 1:11:30
  kid out there from California. So kind of gets back a little
• 1:11:33
  closer to home and you know, gets an opportunity to still be
• 1:11:38
  a starting quarterback. Yeah, it's it again, San Diego
• 1:11:41
  State. This year, went to a bowl game
• 1:11:44
  was in the Mountain West championship game.
• 1:11:46
  So he's Going to a good program. It's not like he's going to the
• 1:11:51
  low of the low, so good for him, you know.
• 1:11:55
  Well, Tokyo is a hokie best of luck to both those guys.
• 1:11:58
  All right, Brian will give you three names in order?
• 1:12:03
  Tell me, and we're excited about all three but your level of
• 1:12:07
  excitement and important to the team.
• 1:12:09
  This year that these guys are staying Armani.
• 1:12:12
  Chaplain confirms, he's returning Johnny and Jordan gets
• 1:12:15
  a 60-year and Drake Delia It's a six-year order.
• 1:12:21
  One, two, three importance. I'm going to put, and it's just
• 1:12:26
  by a narrow margin. Johnny Jordan at the top here
• 1:12:29
  because I was insanely concerned about the center position.
• 1:12:35
  Let me go into this offseason it's me Jeff Allen we're looking
• 1:12:39
  at Jack hollifield or somebody transferring in so getting
• 1:12:42
  Johnny Jordan back for a six-year that's huge in my
• 1:12:46
  opinion. I'm looking forward to see him
• 1:12:49
  in a starting role this year. I'm looking forward to seeing
• 1:12:53
  him kind of being that quarterback of the defense
• 1:12:57
  offensive line. I mean, excuse me, I'm looking
• 1:12:59
  forward to that. So I think he's going to be
• 1:13:01
  that's probably the most important there.
• 1:13:04
  We're a little bit deeper at corner, but I'm going to put our
• 1:13:07
  money Chapman at number two. But put Chapman and number two,
• 1:13:14
  I like his his game he's got some things he needs to clean
• 1:13:19
  up. He needs to be a little bit
• 1:13:21
  better with his hips but I think that's something that we can
• 1:13:27
  work on. But I think overall I mean he is
• 1:13:30
  a really talented player and I think that him coming back
• 1:13:34
  definitely takes a little bit of sting out of losing a couple
• 1:13:38
  players at that position in the offseason.
• 1:13:42
  And yeah, I think it's close but I'll put drinking three in and
• 1:13:47
  that's only because of the guys that we have coming in at that
• 1:13:51
  position with this incoming Freshman Class, A couple of
• 1:13:56
  which are getting a full spring heading in there so but I think
• 1:14:01
  Drake's going to play a big role for us in in 2022.
• 1:14:05
  I just think the other two were just a hair more important in
• 1:14:08
  terms of the positions that they're playing.
• 1:14:11
  Okay, I hear you and obviously you have your number one tight
• 1:14:16
  end already right with Gallo although we could see okay what
• 1:14:22
  are we going to do different under, you know ball, you're
• 1:14:25
  definitely going to see too tight and sets.
• 1:14:27
  You might see through Titans, you are.
• 1:14:28
  But the whole thing is it's always been more than Joker.
• 1:14:31
  Where you see with phone. At least at Penn State, you've
• 1:14:34
  got to be a good of blockers. You have to be a receive.
• 1:14:37
  You never had a lot of Joker's up there from oof.
• 1:14:40
  Just second all those guys you're going to block and it's
• 1:14:44
  kind of drink sweetness. Hopefully I think drinks going
• 1:14:47
  to be used more kind of like Dalton was in this new offense,
• 1:14:52
  a little bit more just because he's going to be asked to block
• 1:14:58
  from motion. A lot more if it He's a real
• 1:15:02
  eating out a lot more versus being in line.
• 1:15:05
  I think that'll play a little bit more to his strengths and I
• 1:15:07
  think it'll be better for the offense.
• 1:15:10
  All right, one last piece 2022, recruiting unit, preferred
• 1:15:16
  walk-on from IMG and Erica solow.
• 1:15:18
  The safety. I don't think it ever hurts to
• 1:15:21
  get anybody from that school. If they're water boys needed a
• 1:15:27
  scholarship. Potentially, take it, it might
• 1:15:29
  be the best water. Boy, you get.
• 1:15:30
  Just because they have that many good players coming out but you
• 1:15:37
  know we've seen more PWS, you know offered here and there any
• 1:15:44
  thoughts on this kid or just it's a preferred walk-on.
• 1:15:47
  Let's hope he Sam Rogers. I mean, yeah, you hope that he's
• 1:15:53
  able to contribute at some point down the road but, you know,
• 1:15:57
  anytime you can again, establish relationships like that with a
• 1:16:00
  school. Like, I am G.
• 1:16:03
  I think that's important to Foster those relationships.
• 1:16:06
  And, you know, I like I said, I hope he does well, but like you
• 1:16:12
  said, I am G anytime you can get a IMG kid on your roster, take
• 1:16:17
  that opportunity, take the opportunity and if anything What
• 1:16:20
  we talked about here in the states or in the state of
• 1:16:23
  Virginia, it's building a relationship, getting getting
• 1:16:26
  the preferred walk-on kid a scholarship.
• 1:16:29
  It might be in two years, there's a high for star and
• 1:16:34
  because of that early relationship building, he comes
• 1:16:38
  all right, Brian. Let's switch gears a little bit
• 1:16:40
  for a few seconds here. And talk about the Hokies hoop
• 1:16:42
  struggles, obviously the last two games have been wins.
• 1:16:49
  It all In the Irish, when the stats I'm about to give you kind
• 1:16:54
  of destroyed tonight, we survived the NC State blowing a
• 1:16:59
  17-point lead, but it kind of falls into everything and I just
• 1:17:03
  got bored last week and, you know, this team is a top, 15%
• 1:17:07
  scoring defense and with 300 plus teams, were roughly a top,
• 1:17:11
  40 scorn D. That's every game, with the
• 1:17:15
  exception of the Notre, Dame game.
• 1:17:16
  We've been holding people, right?
• 1:17:19
  All right, with the exception of Notre Dame, game where a bottom
• 1:17:23
  third scoring offense which is really tough to swallow.
• 1:17:27
  When we know how good of a offense in mind, Mike, young is
• 1:17:32
  and like tonight, Ron I told you before we got home we were
• 1:17:39
  shooting over 70% from two-point range.
• 1:17:42
  The reason they were in that game is we could hit the side,
• 1:17:44
  broad side of a barn with a 3-point shot tonight.
• 1:17:47
  Yep. Couldn't hit anything.
• 1:17:49
  It was like 26 percent. I think was the percentages up
• 1:17:54
  in that kind of drives you insane especially when you have
• 1:17:57
  such a big lead in the only way the team can come back in is you
• 1:18:01
  taking lower percentage shots? Which the 3-pointer this year
• 1:18:04
  just has been. Yeah, it's weird because we
• 1:18:08
  thought coming into this year that the three-pointer was going
• 1:18:11
  to be the strength of the team and it absolutely is went the
• 1:18:15
  other direction between naheem. Going from three storm
• 1:18:20
  struggling from three everybody, you know, Couture, having a
• 1:18:25
  couple off games, it's been, you know, hit or miss you know,
• 1:18:30
  thankfully we've had some other things work in our favor
• 1:18:33
  especially our defense. But we're struggling right now
• 1:18:39
  on the on the from the three-point line.
• 1:18:42
  We got to figure out a way to Kind of shake out of that funk a
• 1:18:46
  little bit because I mean we know most of these guys can hit
• 1:18:50
  the three. Yeah, I mean, we've seen naheem
• 1:18:53
  do it before. We've seen storm Murphy, do it.
• 1:18:56
  I'll be at in a different League.
• 1:19:00
  You know, they definitely have the capacity to do these things
• 1:19:04
  3015 to like, combine those cabinets, you can't win many
• 1:19:08
  games. Especially when, you know, we
• 1:19:10
  always a lot of people think we get destroyed on the boards
• 1:19:13
  tonight. We dominated.
• 1:19:15
  Boards in most games we're right at that razor thin.
• 1:19:18
  It's like a it's a differential of one and, you know, as far as
• 1:19:23
  like turnovers go we roughly are winning that battle every night
• 1:19:28
  somewhere between two and three. But I think my overall
• 1:19:33
  assessment, it's what these last two games where they were
• 1:19:36
  nail-biters. This is a good team.
• 1:19:39
  I think we're good basketball team.
• 1:19:41
  I think if we got on the tournament we could be anybody
• 1:19:44
  or lose to anybody. We have the razor thinnest of
• 1:19:48
  margins. And tonight for example when you
• 1:19:51
  cannot hit a three especially with a 17-point lead and you
• 1:19:56
  keep shooting because I felt like every time I looked at the
• 1:20:00
  television between doing stuff around the house here, we were
• 1:20:02
  taking another three and missing it in several times.
• 1:20:08
  Like there was the there was it was not necessarily a super
• 1:20:11
  contested shot but kind of a probably contested shot 10 feet
• 1:20:16
  it in and you're giving it up for a where you are not making
• 1:20:20
  anything from, and that makes me lose my damn mind.
• 1:20:24
  Oh yeah, it got better when months got really aggressive at
• 1:20:27
  going to the rack, whether it was himself or kind of attacking
• 1:20:34
  the paint and then finding a loom or somebody else.
• 1:20:38
  You're down under the basket for an easy layup, or an easy dunk.
• 1:20:42
  That's when the offense was looking, its best.
• 1:20:45
  It was looking, it's worse. When we were again, reliant on
• 1:20:48
  taking kind of open threes. Good looks, but not necessarily
• 1:20:54
  wide open, well somewhere, while and some work, some were wide
• 1:20:58
  open and I mean there were a couple that were just just
• 1:21:02
  missed and you know, some of the problem is that we're getting
• 1:21:06
  too late into the shot clock. Because storms have a little bit
• 1:21:10
  of trouble. Getting the ball up quick
• 1:21:12
  getting into the offense. So that that hurts with the shot
• 1:21:16
  selection, you can't necessarily throw it in the post and kind of
• 1:21:19
  wait for things to happen. You got to do a little bit more
• 1:21:21
  around the perimeter so that that's kind of hurt the shot
• 1:21:24
  selection side of things. But in general, we just need to
• 1:21:28
  make more threes. Better easy.
• 1:21:33
  And again that we know we know they have the capacity to do it.
• 1:21:36
  That's why this is frustrating, you know, that's why it's
• 1:21:41
  frustrating because we've seen these guys make these shots in
• 1:21:45
  these situations before. And I think it's also
• 1:21:48
  frustrating, the fact that you said this last episode Mi kyung,
• 1:21:52
  doesn't have the quick hook for Shooters.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah, like too much again, the two guys tonight Murphy would
• 1:21:59
  probably be out there regardless but I mean, what was to, That's
• 1:22:03
  that's killer, and he was 3 of 15 in general.
• 1:22:07
  And I mean do you mean not Heinrich the he what I think
• 1:22:11
  months? Yeah, not bad.
• 1:22:12
  It's getting late, folks, I'm tired, you're good.
• 1:22:15
  All right, couple real quick things before we call it a
• 1:22:20
  night. Brian cfp expanding playoff
• 1:22:23
  talks stalled, not a shocker and Jeffrey got punted a couple
• 1:22:30
  times. I was like, Probably not getting
• 1:22:32
  it where it's going to be ready. In two years, we're going to
• 1:22:34
  head down this way, at Albany 25.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah, 2025 is probably where we're looking at now, but Jim
• 1:22:41
  Phillips ACC commissioner came out and basically made a
• 1:22:43
  statement being the first to says, now is not the time to
• 1:22:48
  make this change. And I think some of us get
• 1:22:52
  upset. Then reading Dennis, Dodds
• 1:22:55
  article further basically, every ACC coach said, no, now is not
• 1:22:59
  the time that they're way too many.
• 1:23:01
  The things going on with the new transfer portal with the ni L
• 1:23:07
  deals with so many other things going on, we don't need one more
• 1:23:12
  big change. I tend to disagree because those
• 1:23:20
  things are done. Those things are done, the NCAA
• 1:23:23
  completely dropped the ball on this but then I looked a little
• 1:23:28
  further in It seems like big-time on ni L, but you know,
• 1:23:33
  we have discussed that enough, we don't need to.
• 1:23:35
  Oh yeah, to be continued. I think the portal piece is
• 1:23:39
  we're going to finally see it to fruition with a normal year, how
• 1:23:42
  it's going to work, and we're going to, it's almost like we
• 1:23:45
  want to see how this works a couple years down the road
• 1:23:47
  because, you know, if we're getting kids in there, trying to
• 1:23:51
  get back out and trying to get waivers, is it even worth it?
• 1:23:55
  But we saw the we've seen the portal in a true.
• 1:23:59
  Covid year than we've seen the portal in this transition year,
• 1:24:02
  but we haven't really seen how the portal Works in a normally
• 1:24:08
  in a normal year where there's not, you know, super seniors and
• 1:24:11
  all this shit where you got to completely clear roster and
• 1:24:15
  things like that. I mean it's definitely going to
• 1:24:18
  be Different than what it was in the past.
• 1:24:23
  But I think there's going to be some settling in once people get
• 1:24:25
  a better grasp of of the portal. Yeah, but I mean, you know, I've
• 1:24:32
  said it before, I've got no problem with the way the portal
• 1:24:34
  is set up, but like anything, when you get more freedom, you
• 1:24:39
  know, there's also more risk associated with exercising that
• 1:24:43
  freedom right, what? So, you know, when you, when you
• 1:24:46
  get in the portal, it might be something where you don't get
• 1:24:49
  the Calls you're wanting and now you're, you're kind of in no
• 1:24:53
  man's land. Exactly.
• 1:24:55
  You're in purgatory. So that's that's the fear for
• 1:24:59
  some of these kids and so the hope is that people in their
• 1:25:02
  Circle or giving them good information, right?
• 1:25:04
  That's the most important thing. Now, the other big piece that
• 1:25:09
  now, it kind of made sense to why they're rejecting it.
• 1:25:14
  If you go ahead and expand the playoffs.
• 1:25:16
  Now it's currently under contract with the ESPN.
• 1:25:20
  If you go ahead and expand it, that means you're expanding to
• 1:25:23
  ESPN only control. If you're not the SEC, what do
• 1:25:29
  you want? If you're not the SEC, you want
• 1:25:33
  a little bit more coverage, agnostic situation for the
• 1:25:39
  college football. Playoff if there's going to be
• 1:25:42
  potentially eight games, leading up to the semis in the National
• 1:25:47
  five, in the national championship game. if you are
• 1:25:51
  the ACC, the Big 12, the packed the pac-10 Pac-12, g5s Big Ten
• 1:25:58
  even even though the Big Ten has numerous contracts you want to
• 1:26:02
  get everybody involved in taking these games, no more money, more
• 1:26:08
  exposure and essentially Don't let ESPN monopolize it because
• 1:26:16
  they've got the Monopoly on the bowls, he got thrown up on the
• 1:26:19
  bowls. I think, what, what this move I
• 1:26:22
  think signals is that they weren't ready to move forward
• 1:26:27
  with the ESPN situation, especially after the SEC,
• 1:26:32
  realignment, and how that really kind of threw off the balance of
• 1:26:36
  the conference's, once they saw that, they're like, all right,
• 1:26:41
  let's, let's, let's approach this.
• 1:26:43
  A Little bit slower and let's see if we can get some things
• 1:26:47
  leveraged in our favor as we move forward with this before we
• 1:26:51
  sign off on something that we're stuck with.
• 1:26:53
  For a good number of years, probably five to ten years.
• 1:26:57
  Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see
• 1:26:59
  how the talks pick up. I still think we're going to
• 1:27:01
  wind up at 12, eventually, probably 2025, but who knows?
• 1:27:06
  Now, speaking of national championship games, Brian.
• 1:27:09
  Obviously, you and I both watched it, you On that, pick
• 1:27:14
  them from Georgia, outright laying the points.
• 1:27:19
  But did that game prove to you? Brian that kind of an old-school
• 1:27:24
  mentality. Can still win the national
• 1:27:26
  championship. Or is it the reason old school
• 1:27:30
  mentality? One is Georgia has 26 NFL
• 1:27:34
  players on defense and even they can slow down, Alabama, when
• 1:27:38
  Alabama's missing a wide receiver.
• 1:27:42
  I think it's a little bit of both.
• 1:27:44
  I think if You don't get an injury for Alabama.
• 1:27:49
  It's probably at least a different game.
• 1:27:52
  I don't know if it's necessarily still the same outcome, but I
• 1:27:54
  think it's a different game, but I think George has showed that
• 1:28:00
  in the right circumstances, you're going with that
• 1:28:03
  old-school mentality of Defense first controlling offense, not
• 1:28:07
  necessarily needing to score a ton of points but this be
• 1:28:11
  efficient with the football. I think that showed that that
• 1:28:15
  can still win but I think it was also a unique scenario because
• 1:28:20
  of some of the things that happen during the game.
• 1:28:23
  Also unique that there's guys like Jordan Davis that literally
• 1:28:26
  it takes two guys to block him every single time for these.
• 1:28:30
  That much of a man absolutely but it was great to see, Georgia
• 1:28:34
  win and kind of break the monotony of Alabama.
• 1:28:39
  So you know, we are right now. What are we grind?
• 1:28:43
  Ten days after the national championship, right?
• 1:28:46
  Yeah. 360 55 days or something like that.
• 1:28:53
  Now, I'm way off for like, six months until seven months.
• 1:28:58
  Yeah, it's late and I've it math.
• 1:29:01
  Math is a bitch. It's just what it is.
• 1:29:05
  We're like, seven months until kickoff.
• 1:29:07
  Can't wait. Can't wait for Spring ball and
• 1:29:10
  the rest of this offseason run. Hi Ron, anything breaking while
• 1:29:16
  we've been out here? I don't see anything funny when
• 1:29:18
  I think we're good to kick it. All right.
• 1:29:21
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• 1:29:24
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• 1:29:26
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