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The Anxious Generation - Is Social Media Melting Your Childs Brain? · Other Peoples Parenting

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Hey,
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everyone.
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Welcome
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to
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Other
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People's
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Parenting,
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where
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we
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read
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parenting
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books
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and
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review
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them
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for
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you.
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I'm
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Skylar
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Hurwitz,
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amateur
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parent,
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and
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this
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is
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my
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mom,
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Karen
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Quinn.
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She
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is
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a
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New
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York
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Times
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best
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selling
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author
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and
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founder
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of
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Habit
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Coach
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and
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Testing
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Mom.
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Hello,
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mom.
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Hi,
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Skylar.
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How
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are
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you
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doing?
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I'm
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good,
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I'm
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good.
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Ready
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to
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talk
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about
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this
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book?
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This
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book
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that
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she's
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referring
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to
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is
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Jonathan
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Haidt's
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the
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Anxious
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Generation.
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Oh,
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you
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want
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me
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to
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hold
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it
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up?
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Okay,
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hold
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it
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up.
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Okay,
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there
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it
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is.
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Okay.
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This
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is
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the
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book
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only
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in
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hardback
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right
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now,
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but
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I'm
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sure
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it'll
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come
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out
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in
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paperback
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soon.
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Yeah,
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it's
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an
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interesting
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book.
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It
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discusses
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why
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Gen
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Z
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has
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mental
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issues.
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No,
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I'm
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kidding.
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Everybody
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has
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mental
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issues.
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Specifically,
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his
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theory
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is
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that
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Gen
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Z
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is
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particularly
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anxious
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because
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they
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came
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of
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age
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when
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the
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Internet
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really
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exploded
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or.
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When
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cell
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phones
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in
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your
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pocket
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exploded.
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Yes.
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Not
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literally,
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because
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there
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was
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a
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time
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where
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people's
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cell
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phones
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were
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exploding
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in
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their
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pocket.
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That's
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true.
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Figuratively.
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Right.
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When
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everyone
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had
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a
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cell
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phone
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with
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access
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to
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the
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Internet.
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That
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is
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what
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has
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created
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this
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problem.
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Yeah.
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And
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it
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is
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a
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problem.
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A
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problem
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I
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am
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grateful
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to
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have
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not
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experienced
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as
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a
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child
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because
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the
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only
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social
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media
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we
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had
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when
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I
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was
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a
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kid
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was
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MySpace.
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I.
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Which
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was
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not
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this.
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Yep.
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People
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didn't.
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It
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was
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a
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whole
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different
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thing.
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I
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mean,
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it
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was
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so
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basic,
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what
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you
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had.
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Oh,
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we
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also
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had
1:32
aim,
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which
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was
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also
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scary.
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AOL
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Instant
1:37
messenger,
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where
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we
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had
1:38
screen
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names
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that
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were
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humiliating
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and
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where
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we
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went
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into
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chat
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rooms
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and
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you
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asked
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people
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asl
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and
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they
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always
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lied
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because
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they
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were
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all
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pedophiles.
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Oh,
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my
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God.
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Well,
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that
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was
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bad
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too.
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But
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that
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was
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bad.
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It
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was
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not
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like
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you
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were
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ever.
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Or,
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I
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feel
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like
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rarely.
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People
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would
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never
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meet
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people
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in
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real
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life.
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That's
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why
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I
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think
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when
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dating
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apps
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became
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a
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thing
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initially,
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people
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were
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so
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terrified
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because
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they
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were
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like,
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oh,
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like
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chat
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rooms.
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And
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it's
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like,
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no,
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this
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is
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different.
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Like,
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you
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sort
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of
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know
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who
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these
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people
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are
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a
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little
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bit
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before
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you
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meet
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them.
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Exactly,
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exactly.
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Well,
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let
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me.
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Let
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me
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talk
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about,
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like,
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how
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this
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book
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is
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even
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kind
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of
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formed
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and
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structured
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so
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that.
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From
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parent.
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No,
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sorry.
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Our
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scale
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goes
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from
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scientist
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to
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parent,
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1
2:28
to
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10,
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from
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scientist
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to
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parent.
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How
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readable
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was
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this
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book?
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I
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would
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call
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it
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a
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six.
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And
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the
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reason
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I
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would
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call
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it
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a
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six
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is
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because
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the
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author
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proves
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every
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point
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he
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makes,
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which
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is
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good
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because
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that
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means
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you
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can
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rely
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on
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what
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he's
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saying.
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Everything
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is
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based
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on
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science
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and
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research.
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You
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know,
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he's
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not
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Making
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this
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up.
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And
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so.
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But
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he
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proves
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every
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point.
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So
2:54
there
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are
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a
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lot
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of
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studies
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to
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read
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about
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and
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graphs
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to
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get
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through.
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So
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many
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graphs.
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Lots
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of
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graphs.
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Yes.
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I
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can't
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read
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the
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graphs.
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I
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avoided
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the
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graphs.
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Well,
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you
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have
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a
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spatial
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learning
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disability,
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which
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of
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course
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I
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know
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about
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because
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I'm
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your
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mom,
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but
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so
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I
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understand
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why
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you
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wouldn't
3:11
look
3:11
at
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the
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graphs.
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Not
3:12
a
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HIPAA
3:13
violation.
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Oh,
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I'm
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sorry.
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It's
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okay.
3:15
I
3:15
forgive
3:16
you.
3:17
We
3:17
can
3:17
talk
3:17
about
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it.
3:17
Okay.
3:18
Can
3:18
we
3:18
talk
3:18
about
3:18
it?
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Yes,
3:19
we
3:19
can.
3:19
Okay.
3:19
Sorry,
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I
3:20
didn't
3:20
mean
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to
3:20
violate
3:21
your
3:21
HIPAA
3:21
rights.
3:22
But
3:23
yeah,
3:23
she
3:23
has
3:24
a
3:24
learning
3:24
disability.
3:25
I
3:25
mean,
3:25
lots
3:25
of
3:26
people
3:26
do.
3:26
Right.
3:27
But
3:27
anyway,
3:29
so
3:29
it
3:29
makes
3:29
it
3:29
hard
3:29
for
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her
3:30
to
3:30
read
3:30
graphs.
3:31
Always
3:31
has.
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Was
3:32
a
3:32
problem
3:33
when
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she
3:33
was
3:33
younger,
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but
3:34
you
3:34
know,
3:34
we
3:35
love
3:35
her.
3:35
She
3:35
can
3:36
do
3:36
many
3:36
things.
3:38
I
3:38
have
3:38
redeeming
3:39
qualities.
3:39
You
3:39
do.
3:40
Okay,
3:40
but
3:41
not
3:41
graphs.
3:42
Okay.
3:42
So.
3:42
So
3:43
anyway,
3:43
there
3:43
were
3:44
lots
3:44
of
3:44
graphs.
3:44
But
3:45
you
3:45
can
3:45
skip
3:45
over
3:45
the
3:45
graphs
3:46
or
3:46
look
3:46
at
3:47
them.
3:47
If
3:47
you're
3:47
good
3:47
at
3:47
reading
3:48
graphs
3:49
that
3:49
make
3:49
the
3:50
points
3:50
that
3:50
the
3:51
author
3:51
is
3:51
trying
3:51
to
3:52
make,
3:52
they
3:52
support
3:52
the
3:53
points.
3:53
And
3:53
so
3:54
there
3:54
are
3:54
a
3:54
lot
3:55
of
3:55
points.
3:55
Yeah,
3:55
there
3:56
are.
3:56
So
3:57
what
3:57
he
3:57
makes.
3:57
I'll
3:58
just
3:58
go
3:58
over
3:58
the
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four
3:59
main
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ideas
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of
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the
4:00
book.
4:00
The
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first
4:01
being,
4:02
he's
4:02
talking
4:03
about
4:03
how
4:05
childhood
4:06
and
4:06
mental
4:06
illness
4:08
within
4:09
childhood
4:10
has
4:11
really
4:11
gone.
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Childhood
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mental
4:14
illness
4:14
has
4:15
really
4:15
gone
4:15
up
4:16
because
4:16
of
4:17
two
4:17
factors.
4:18
One
4:18
being
4:20
that
4:20
parents
4:21
have
4:21
become
4:21
overprotective
4:23
of
4:23
their
4:23
kids.
4:23
And
4:24
we
4:24
keep
4:24
them
4:25
out
4:25
of
4:26
the
4:26
physical
4:26
world,
4:27
the
4:27
real
4:27
world.
4:28
We
4:28
don't
4:28
let
4:28
them
4:29
go
4:29
out
4:29
and
4:29
play
4:29
by
4:30
themselves
4:30
or
4:30
go
4:31
places
4:31
by
4:31
themselves,
4:32
or
4:32
be
4:33
with
4:33
their
4:33
friends
4:33
without
4:34
some
4:34
supervision.
4:35
And
4:36
at
4:36
the
4:36
same
4:36
time,
4:37
this
4:37
sort
4:38
of
4:38
corresponded
4:39
with
4:39
kids
4:39
getting
4:41
cell
4:41
phones
4:42
that
4:42
were
4:43
smartphones
4:44
in
4:44
their
4:44
pocket
4:46
that
4:46
draw
4:47
them
4:47
into
4:47
these
4:48
online
4:49
worlds
4:51
where
4:51
they
4:52
are
4:52
not
4:52
with
4:53
real
4:53
people,
4:54
where
4:54
they're
4:55
looking
4:55
at,
4:55
you
4:55
know,
4:55
whether
4:56
their
4:57
posts
4:57
are
4:57
being
4:57
liked
4:58
or
4:58
disliked.
4:59
Not
4:59
necessarily.
5:00
Not
5:00
real
5:00
people.
5:01
There
5:01
may
5:01
or
5:02
may
5:02
not
5:02
be
5:02
real
5:02
people
5:03
on
5:03
the
5:03
other
5:03
end
5:03
of
5:04
this.
5:04
Are
5:04
they
5:04
who
5:04
they
5:05
say
5:05
they
5:05
are?
5:06
Do
5:06
they
5:06
know
5:07
these
5:07
people?
5:08
Unclear
5:09
where.
5:10
The
5:10
main
5:10
distinction
5:11
he's
5:11
trying
5:11
to
5:11
draw
5:11
is
5:12
that
5:12
we
5:13
went
5:13
from
5:13
having
5:14
play
5:14
based
5:14
childhoods
5:15
to
5:15
phone
5:16
based
5:16
childhoods.
5:17
That's
5:17
right.
5:17
And
5:18
it's
5:19
unfortunate
5:20
that
5:21
kids
5:21
tend
5:22
to
5:22
get
5:22
phones
5:22
really
5:22
early.
5:23
And
5:23
there's
5:23
this
5:24
developmental
5:24
window
5:25
that
5:25
ultimately
5:25
closes
5:26
around
5:26
age
5:26
16.
5:27
Right.
5:28
And
5:28
it
5:28
affects
5:29
the
5:29
way
5:29
dopamine
5:29
is
5:30
produced
5:30
in
5:30
their
5:30
brain
5:31
and
5:31
the
5:31
way
5:31
their
5:32
reward
5:32
center
5:32
in
5:32
their
5:33
brain
5:33
works.
5:34
And.
5:34
And
5:34
they
5:35
become
5:35
addicted
5:37
to
5:37
these
5:37
technologies,
5:38
as
5:38
I'm
5:38
sure.
5:39
I
5:39
mean,
5:40
even
5:40
adults
5:41
can
5:41
ultimately
5:41
become
5:42
addicted
5:42
to
5:42
these
5:43
technologies
5:43
as
5:43
well.
5:44
It's
5:45
just
5:45
so
5:45
much
5:45
scarier
5:46
for
5:47
children
5:47
because
5:48
when
5:49
you're
5:49
young,
5:49
you're
5:49
such
5:50
a
5:50
sponge.
5:51
Everything
5:51
you
5:52
just
5:52
absorb,
5:52
absorb.
5:54
And
5:54
it
5:56
really,
5:56
it
5:57
permanently
5:57
impacts
5:59
the
5:59
way
5:59
your
6:00
reward
6:00
system
6:01
and
6:01
your
6:01
brain
6:01
works.
6:02
That's
6:02
right.
6:02
I
6:02
mean,
6:02
it's
6:03
like
6:03
when
6:03
you
6:03
were
6:03
growing
6:04
up,
6:04
you
6:04
were
6:05
able
6:05
more
6:06
to
6:06
go
6:06
out
6:06
and
6:07
play.
6:07
You
6:07
had
6:07
a
6:07
lot
6:07
more
6:08
independence
6:08
than
6:09
kids
6:09
today.
6:10
So
6:10
you
6:10
weren't
6:11
drawn
6:11
into
6:11
this
6:12
whole
6:12
phone
6:13
world.
6:14
I
6:15
had
6:15
a
6:15
Nokia,
6:16
a
6:16
brick,
6:16
and
6:17
I
6:17
had
6:17
one
6:17
game
6:18
on
6:18
it
6:18
and
6:18
it
6:18
was
6:18
the
6:18
game
6:19
Snake.
6:19
And
6:20
I
6:20
was
6:20
a
6:20
champion
6:21
at
6:21
Snake.
6:21
I
6:21
was
6:21
very
6:22
good
6:22
at
6:22
Snake.
6:22
I
6:22
loved
6:23
it.
6:23
But
6:23
my
6:23
phone
6:24
could
6:24
do
6:24
one
6:25
thing.
6:25
It
6:25
could
6:25
call
6:26
and
6:26
you
6:26
could
6:27
send
6:27
and
6:27
receive
6:28
texts,
6:28
but
6:28
you
6:28
had
6:29
to
6:29
press
6:29
the
6:29
same
6:29
button
6:30
like
6:30
20
6:31
times.
6:31
It
6:31
was
6:31
very
6:32
intense
6:32
to
6:32
get
6:32
a
6:32
new
6:32
letter.
6:32
It
6:33
was
6:33
labor
6:33
intensive.
6:34
It
6:35
wasn't.
6:35
You
6:36
would
6:36
text
6:36
people,
6:37
call
6:37
me
6:37
and
6:38
that's
6:38
how
6:38
you
6:38
would
6:38
communicate.
6:39
Right.
6:39
But
6:40
that's
6:40
not
6:40
the
6:40
case
6:41
today.
6:42
And
6:42
it's
6:43
just
6:43
done
6:43
a
6:43
number
6:44
on
6:44
young
6:45
kids
6:46
brains
6:47
and
6:47
that's
6:47
really
6:47
what
6:48
he
6:48
is
6:48
talking
6:48
about.
6:49
It's
6:49
impacted
6:50
their
6:51
attention
6:51
span,
6:52
it's
6:53
impacted
6:54
their
6:54
moods.
6:55
They're
6:56
more
6:56
anxious,
6:56
they're
6:56
more
6:57
depressed,
6:58
they're.
6:58
Anxious
6:58
because
6:59
they
7:00
struggle
7:00
to
7:00
be
7:01
present
7:01
where
7:01
they
7:02
are
7:02
because
7:03
they
7:03
are
7:03
always
7:03
concerned
7:04
with
7:04
what's
7:05
going
7:05
on
7:05
online.
7:06
Right.
7:07
And
7:08
that
7:08
is
7:09
so
7:09
unfortunate.
7:09
Right,
7:10
right.
7:11
I
7:11
personally
7:12
have
7:12
a
7:12
phone
7:12
for
7:13
my
7:13
own
7:13
convenience
7:14
and
7:14
not
7:14
the
7:14
convenience
7:15
of
7:15
others,
7:16
so.
7:16
But
7:17
that
7:17
was
7:17
a
7:17
boundary
7:18
I
7:18
had
7:18
to
7:19
draw.
7:19
Right.
7:20
And
7:21
condition
7:21
people
7:22
in
7:22
my
7:22
life
7:22
to
7:23
understand
7:24
was
7:24
something.
7:25
Because
7:25
now
7:25
the
7:25
expectation
7:26
for
7:26
everyone
7:26
is
7:27
that
7:27
we
7:27
are
7:27
constantly
7:28
connected.
7:28
Right.
7:29
And
7:29
if
7:30
you
7:30
don't
7:31
immediately
7:32
respond,
7:32
there's
7:32
something
7:32
wrong.
7:33
Like
7:33
a
7:33
month
7:34
ago
7:34
when
7:34
I
7:34
texted
7:35
you
7:35
at
7:35
8pm
7:37
and
7:37
you
7:37
did
7:37
not
7:38
respond
7:39
and
7:39
I
7:39
literally
7:39
almost
7:40
walked
7:40
over
7:40
to
7:41
your
7:41
apartment
7:41
to
7:42
see
7:42
if
7:43
it
7:43
was
7:43
a
7:44
medical
7:44
situation.
7:45
Oh,
7:45
I'm
7:45
so
7:45
glad
7:46
though
7:46
that
7:46
you
7:46
did.
7:46
Because
7:47
I
7:48
mean,
7:48
yeah,
7:48
I'm
7:49
glad
7:49
that
7:49
I
7:49
was
7:50
thinking
7:50
today,
7:50
like
7:51
if
7:51
something
7:51
happened
7:52
to
7:52
me
7:52
in
7:52
the
7:52
middle
7:52
of
7:52
the
7:52
night,
7:53
would
7:53
anyone
7:53
find
7:54
me?
7:54
I
7:54
would
7:54
find
7:54
you.
7:55
Okay,
7:55
that's
7:55
good.
7:55
Because
7:57
I'm
7:57
here
7:58
right
7:58
now
7:58
by
7:58
myself
7:59
and
7:59
I've
7:59
got
8:00
my
8:00
dog.
8:00
And
8:01
so
8:01
I
8:01
was
8:01
really
8:01
thinking,
8:02
you
8:02
know,
8:02
would
8:03
anyone.
8:03
But
8:03
I,
8:03
you
8:03
would
8:04
trust
8:04
and
8:04
leave.
8:05
You
8:05
would
8:06
text
8:06
me
8:06
and
8:06
you
8:07
would
8:07
find
8:07
me.
8:07
Good.
8:07
If
8:08
you
8:08
don't
8:08
text
8:08
me
8:08
back
8:08
within
8:09
an
8:09
hour,
8:09
I
8:10
panic.
8:10
Well,
8:11
I
8:11
do
8:11
too.
8:11
I
8:11
mean,
8:12
I
8:12
do
8:12
too.
8:13
And
8:13
I
8:13
think,
8:14
you
8:14
know,
8:15
so
8:15
that's.
8:15
So
8:16
that's
8:16
part
8:17
of
8:17
the
8:17
culture
8:17
that
8:18
kids
8:18
are
8:18
being
8:18
brought
8:18
up
8:19
in
8:19
today,
8:19
is
8:19
that,
8:20
you
8:20
know,
8:20
they
8:20
Keep
8:20
getting
8:21
these
8:21
notifications
8:22
if
8:22
someone's
8:23
texting
8:23
them
8:24
or
8:24
if
8:26
something's
8:26
come
8:26
up
8:27
on
8:27
TikTok,
8:27
or
8:28
if
8:28
something's
8:28
come
8:28
up
8:29
on
8:29
one
8:29
of
8:29
their
8:29
Instagrams.
8:30
Instagram.
8:31
Someone's
8:31
responded
8:32
to
8:32
their
8:32
post
8:33
and,
8:33
you
8:34
know,
8:34
they're
8:34
constantly
8:34
being,
8:35
you
8:35
know,
8:35
dividing
8:36
their
8:36
attention
8:37
between
8:37
what
8:37
they
8:37
maybe
8:38
should
8:38
be
8:38
doing
8:38
if
8:39
they're
8:39
in
8:39
school
8:39
or
8:40
whatever.
8:40
And.
8:41
Yes.
8:41
And
8:41
these
8:42
notifications.
8:42
The
8:43
point
8:43
that
8:43
he
8:43
also
8:43
makes
8:44
is
8:44
that
8:44
this
8:44
permanently
8:45
fractures
8:46
the
8:46
attention
8:46
span.
8:47
Right.
8:47
Of
8:48
these
8:48
kids
8:48
and
8:49
people
8:49
in
8:49
general.
8:50
I
8:50
mean,
8:50
even
8:50
adults,
8:51
again,
8:51
like
8:52
teenagers,
8:52
are
8:52
particularly
8:53
affected
8:54
by
8:54
this.
8:54
But
8:55
anybody
8:56
can
8:56
be
8:56
affected
8:56
by
8:57
this,
8:57
right?
8:57
Exactly.
8:58
Oh,
8:58
yeah,
8:58
absolutely.
8:59
It's
8:59
funny.
9:00
I
9:00
was,
9:00
after
9:00
reading
9:01
this
9:01
book.
9:01
Yeah.
9:02
Yesterday,
9:02
I
9:03
was
9:03
in
9:03
a
9:03
meeting
9:03
and
9:04
I
9:04
was
9:04
trying
9:04
to
9:05
focus
9:05
on
9:05
the
9:05
meeting,
9:06
and
9:06
while
9:06
it
9:06
was
9:06
going
9:07
on,
9:07
one
9:08
of
9:08
our
9:08
testing
9:09
mom
9:09
clients
9:10
was
9:10
texting
9:11
me,
9:11
and
9:12
I
9:12
kept
9:12
getting
9:13
bing,
9:13
bing,
9:14
bing.
9:14
And
9:14
then
9:15
next
9:15
thing
9:15
I
9:15
know,
9:15
he
9:16
was
9:16
calling
9:16
me.
9:16
And
9:17
I'm
9:17
like,
9:17
I'm
9:17
trying
9:18
to
9:18
have
9:18
a
9:18
meeting.
9:19
And
9:19
it's
9:19
like,
9:20
I
9:20
think,
9:20
if
9:20
I
9:21
can't
9:21
get
9:21
through
9:22
a
9:22
meeting
9:22
without
9:22
getting
9:23
so
9:23
distracted
9:24
by
9:24
this,
9:25
how
9:25
can
9:25
kids
9:26
get
9:26
through
9:27
anything?
9:27
Because
9:28
kids
9:28
don't
9:28
always.
9:29
I
9:29
mean,
9:30
they
9:30
really
9:31
don't
9:31
have
9:31
the
9:31
defenses.
9:32
Yeah,
9:32
that's
9:33
right.
9:33
With
9:33
adults,
9:34
frankly,
9:34
it's
9:34
entitlement.
9:35
But
9:35
with
9:36
kids,
9:36
I'm
9:37
entitled
9:37
to
9:37
your
9:37
attention
9:38
as
9:38
soon
9:38
as
9:38
I
9:38
want
9:38
it.
9:39
That's
9:39
insane.
9:40
But
9:40
for
9:41
kids,
9:41
I
9:42
think
9:42
it's.
9:43
It's
9:43
both
9:44
habit
9:45
and
9:46
everything.
9:46
When
9:46
you're
9:47
a
9:47
teenager
9:47
just
9:47
feels
9:48
like
9:48
the
9:48
end
9:48
of
9:48
the
9:48
world.
9:49
You
9:49
know,
9:50
they
9:50
are
9:50
so
9:51
susceptible
9:51
to
9:52
psychological
9:53
warfare.
9:53
Girls.
9:55
And
9:56
for
9:56
boys,
9:56
I
9:57
think
9:57
it's
9:57
more.
9:59
It's
9:59
different.
9:59
I
9:59
feel
9:59
like
10:00
boys
10:00
have
10:00
such
10:00
a
10:01
more
10:01
physical
10:01
childhood.
10:02
Boys
10:02
tend
10:02
to
10:02
play
10:03
more
10:03
sports.
10:03
They
10:04
tend
10:04
to
10:04
do
10:04
more
10:04
group
10:05
and
10:05
team
10:05
activities.
10:06
Team
10:06
activities
10:07
for
10:07
girls
10:08
is
10:09
slander.
10:11
Basically,
10:11
when
10:12
they're
10:12
a
10:12
teenager.
10:13
Right,
10:14
right.
10:14
Well,
10:14
they
10:14
tend
10:15
to
10:15
be
10:16
that.
10:16
He
10:16
talks
10:17
about
10:17
that
10:17
in
10:17
the
10:17
book.
10:18
That
10:18
that's
10:19
something
10:19
that
10:19
girls,
10:23
they're
10:23
aggressive
10:23
in
10:24
different
10:24
ways.
10:24
Not
10:24
physically,
10:25
but
10:26
psychologically.
10:27
Psychologically,
10:29
when
10:29
they're
10:29
on
10:30
social
10:31
media,
10:32
one
10:32
of
10:32
the
10:32
things
10:32
they
10:33
tend
10:33
to
10:33
do
10:33
is
10:34
gang
10:34
up
10:34
on
10:35
other
10:35
girls
10:35
and
10:36
potentially
10:36
hurt
10:37
each
10:37
other's
10:37
reputations
10:38
when
10:38
they
10:38
get
10:38
upset,
10:39
that
10:39
kind
10:39
of
10:40
thing.
10:40
When
10:40
I
10:40
was
10:40
in
10:40
middle
10:41
school,
10:41
if
10:42
someone
10:42
was
10:42
gonna
10:43
get
10:43
gamed
10:43
up
10:43
on,
10:43
it
10:44
was
10:44
gonna
10:44
be
10:44
after
10:45
school
10:46
and
10:46
all
10:46
their
10:46
friends
10:47
were
10:47
gonna
10:47
gather
10:47
together
10:48
and
10:49
somebody
10:49
was
10:49
getting
10:50
jumped.
10:50
I
10:50
remember
10:51
that.
10:51
And
10:51
I
10:52
remember
10:52
that
10:52
happening
10:53
to
10:53
you.
10:53
Yeah,
10:54
right.
10:55
So
10:55
now
10:55
at
10:55
least
10:56
you
10:56
don't
10:56
get
10:56
physically
10:57
hurt,
10:57
but
10:57
you,
10:57
you
10:58
know,
10:58
the
10:58
emotional
10:59
hurt.
10:59
What's
10:59
worse,
11:00
I
11:00
Don't
11:00
know,
11:00
I.
11:00
I'm
11:01
not
11:01
sure.
11:01
I
11:01
think
11:02
the
11:02
emotional
11:02
hurt
11:02
is,
11:03
is
11:03
really
11:03
bad.
11:04
It's.
11:04
I
11:04
feel
11:04
like
11:04
emotional
11:05
hurt
11:05
is
11:05
like
11:06
scarring
11:06
for
11:06
life,
11:07
whereas
11:07
physical
11:08
hurt,
11:09
you.
11:09
I
11:09
don't
11:09
know.
11:10
I
11:10
don't
11:10
condone
11:10
any
11:11
kind
11:11
of
11:11
violence,
11:11
but
11:12
in
11:12
a
11:12
weird
11:12
way
11:13
I
11:13
feel
11:13
like
11:13
physical
11:14
violence,
11:14
like
11:14
at
11:14
least
11:15
it's
11:15
typically
11:16
squashed
11:16
at
11:17
the
11:17
end
11:17
of
11:17
it.
11:17
Right.
11:18
You
11:18
know,
11:18
not
11:18
that
11:18
anybody.
11:19
And
11:19
then
11:19
it's
11:19
over
11:20
and
11:20
everybody
11:20
walks
11:21
away.
11:21
Yeah.
11:21
And
11:21
I
11:21
feel,
11:22
I
11:22
feel
11:22
like
11:22
people
11:22
say
11:22
this
11:23
a
11:23
lot
11:23
about
11:23
boys
11:24
or
11:24
men.
11:25
They
11:25
get
11:25
into
11:26
a
11:26
physical
11:26
altercation
11:27
and
11:27
then
11:27
they
11:27
can
11:28
go
11:28
have
11:28
a
11:28
drink
11:28
after
11:28
and
11:29
everything's
11:29
fine.
11:29
Whereas
11:30
girls,
11:30
it's
11:31
like
11:31
we
11:31
will
11:32
harbor
11:33
grudges
11:34
until
11:35
the
11:35
day
11:35
we
11:36
die.
11:38
And
11:38
they
11:39
say
11:39
that
11:40
social
11:40
media
11:40
is
11:41
particularly
11:42
bad
11:42
for
11:43
girls.
11:43
And
11:44
it's
11:44
because
11:44
so
11:45
much
11:45
of
11:45
it
11:45
is
11:45
about
11:46
comparing
11:47
how
11:47
we
11:48
look
11:48
physically.
11:49
They
11:50
look
11:50
at
11:50
themselves
11:51
on
11:51
whatever
11:52
when
11:52
they
11:52
post
11:53
things.
11:53
It's
11:53
like,
11:54
how
11:54
do
11:54
I
11:54
look?
11:55
Or
11:55
if
11:55
someone
11:55
posts
11:56
a
11:56
picture
11:56
of
11:56
them,
11:57
they
11:57
don't
11:57
look
11:57
good.
11:58
Yeah.
11:59
I'm
11:59
a
12:00
generation
12:00
where
12:00
like
12:01
I
12:01
compete
12:01
with
12:02
myself
12:02
and
12:03
being
12:03
three
12:03
months
12:03
postpartum,
12:05
I
12:05
look
12:05
at
12:06
photos
12:06
of
12:06
my
12:07
early
12:07
20s
12:07
self.
12:08
Yeah.
12:08
And
12:09
I
12:09
want
12:09
to
12:09
take
12:10
it
12:10
to
12:10
my
12:10
Botox
12:11
girl
12:11
and
12:11
be
12:11
like,
12:12
can
12:12
you
12:12
give
12:13
me
12:13
my
12:13
24
12:14
year
12:14
old
12:14
jawline
12:15
back?
12:15
Yeah.
12:16
Can
12:16
you
12:17
give
12:17
me
12:19
the
12:19
face
12:20
that
12:20
I
12:20
once
12:21
had?
12:21
Whereas
12:21
now
12:22
these
12:22
girls
12:22
are
12:22
competing
12:23
with
12:23
facetune,
12:24
which
12:24
means
12:24
no
12:25
one
12:25
ever
12:25
had
12:25
this
12:25
face.
12:25
No.
12:26
No,
12:26
they
12:27
didn't.
12:27
Yeah,
12:27
they
12:28
Photoshop.
12:29
I
12:29
mean,
12:29
there
12:29
are
12:29
so
12:29
many
12:30
famous
12:30
Photoshop
12:30
fails
12:31
of
12:31
people
12:32
over
12:32
Photoshopping
12:33
like
12:33
an
12:33
arm
12:33
to
12:34
make
12:34
their
12:34
arm
12:34
into
12:35
like
12:35
a
12:35
small
12:35
piece
12:36
of
12:36
spaghetti
12:36
and
12:37
the
12:37
background
12:37
is
12:38
totally
12:38
warped
12:39
and
12:39
it's
12:39
just
12:39
like,
12:40
girl,
12:40
we
12:40
see.
12:41
Yeah,
12:41
I
12:41
know,
12:41
it's
12:42
true.
12:42
Well,
12:42
let's
12:43
talk
12:43
about
12:44
how
12:44
what
12:44
the
12:44
decline
12:45
of
12:45
play
12:46
based
12:46
childhoods
12:47
means
12:48
in
12:48
terms
12:48
of
12:48
what
12:48
this
12:49
author
12:49
says
12:50
and
12:50
what
12:50
he
12:50
talks
12:51
about
12:51
is
12:51
just
12:52
how
12:52
important
12:53
in
12:53
person
12:54
play
12:55
is
12:55
for
12:56
children.
12:56
And
12:56
it's
12:57
not
12:57
just
12:57
in
12:57
person
12:58
play,
12:58
it's
12:58
just
12:58
in
12:58
person
12:59
interaction
13:00
with
13:00
other
13:01
people.
13:01
Super,
13:02
super
13:02
important.
13:03
We
13:03
need
13:04
that,
13:04
you
13:04
know,
13:04
to
13:05
learn
13:05
how
13:05
to
13:05
handle
13:06
emotions,
13:07
to
13:07
learn
13:07
how
13:07
to
13:08
resolve
13:08
conflicts,
13:09
look
13:09
after
13:09
ourselves.
13:10
And
13:11
during
13:11
this
13:11
time
13:12
when
13:12
we
13:12
should
13:13
have
13:13
had
13:13
our
13:13
kids,
13:14
you
13:14
know,
13:14
just
13:15
playing
13:15
and
13:15
being
13:16
out
13:16
there
13:16
in
13:16
the
13:17
world,
13:17
instead
13:18
they're
13:19
online
13:19
and
13:20
they're
13:20
getting
13:20
socialized
13:21
by
13:21
Instagram
13:22
or
13:22
TikTok
13:24
rather
13:24
than
13:24
real
13:25
experiences.
13:26
Did
13:26
you
13:27
let
13:27
me
13:27
socialize
13:28
as
13:28
a
13:28
child?
13:29
Like,
13:29
how,
13:29
how
13:30
far
13:30
away
13:30
did
13:30
you
13:31
let
13:31
me
13:31
go?
13:32
You
13:33
mean,
13:33
did
13:33
I,
13:33
did
13:33
I
13:34
let
13:34
you
13:34
go
13:34
free?
13:37
You
13:37
know,
13:38
I'm
13:38
Trying
13:38
to
13:38
remember.
13:39
I
13:39
was
13:39
considered,
13:40
I
13:40
remember,
13:41
one
13:41
of
13:41
the
13:42
most
13:42
permissive
13:42
parents
13:43
around.
13:44
Really?
13:45
Yes.
13:45
And
13:46
scandal.
13:47
I
13:47
was.
13:47
But
13:49
I
13:49
was
13:49
a
13:50
who?
13:50
Well,
13:50
the
13:51
other
13:51
parents
13:51
at
13:52
the
13:52
school
13:52
that
13:52
you
13:53
were
13:53
going
13:53
to
13:53
thought
13:54
that
13:54
dad
13:55
and
13:55
I
13:55
were
13:55
very
13:55
permissive.
13:56
And
13:56
some
13:57
people
13:57
didn't
13:57
want
13:57
their
13:58
kids
13:58
playing
13:58
with
13:59
our
13:59
kids.
13:59
Oh,
13:59
my
14:00
God.
14:00
Because
14:00
I
14:01
don't
14:01
know
14:01
if
14:01
you,
14:01
I.
14:01
Well,
14:02
I
14:02
would
14:02
let
14:02
us.
14:02
Like,
14:03
I
14:03
remember
14:03
one
14:03
time,
14:04
dad
14:04
was
14:05
at
14:05
the
14:05
Knickerbocker
14:06
eating
14:07
dinner,
14:07
and
14:07
he
14:07
had
14:08
Sam,
14:08
your
14:09
brother,
14:09
and
14:09
one
14:10
of
14:10
his
14:10
friends
14:10
there.
14:11
He
14:11
was
14:11
at
14:11
the
14:12
table,
14:12
right
14:12
at
14:13
the
14:13
window,
14:14
and
14:15
he
14:16
let
14:16
Sam
14:17
and
14:17
his
14:17
friend
14:18
play
14:18
on
14:18
the
14:19
outside
14:19
of
14:19
the
14:19
window
14:20
while
14:20
he
14:20
was
14:20
sitting
14:20
on
14:21
the
14:21
inside
14:21
of
14:21
the
14:21
window.
14:22
And
14:23
somebody,
14:23
the
14:24
friends
14:25
had
14:25
somebody
14:26
who
14:26
knew
14:26
who
14:26
he
14:26
was
14:27
and
14:27
saw
14:27
him
14:27
playing
14:28
outside
14:28
alone
14:29
without
14:29
adult
14:29
supervision.
14:31
And
14:31
they
14:32
called
14:32
this
14:32
kid's
14:33
parents,
14:33
and
14:34
the
14:34
parents
14:34
came
14:34
over
14:34
and
14:35
it
14:35
was
14:35
a
14:35
whole
14:35
thing.
14:37
So,
14:37
you
14:37
know,
14:37
how
14:37
old
14:37
was
14:37
that?
14:38
Dad
14:38
was,
14:38
like,
14:38
right
14:39
there
14:39
at
14:40
11
14:40
or
14:40
12.
14:41
I
14:41
mean,
14:41
dad
14:41
was
14:42
right
14:42
there,
14:42
but
14:43
we,
14:43
so
14:43
we
14:44
were,
14:44
I
14:44
thought,
14:44
a
14:45
little
14:45
bit
14:45
more
14:45
permissive
14:46
in
14:46
terms
14:46
of,
14:47
you
14:47
know,
14:47
I
14:47
let
14:48
you
14:48
take
14:48
a
14:48
city
14:48
bus
14:49
to
14:49
school.
14:51
I
14:51
gave
14:51
you,
14:51
I
14:52
thought,
14:52
a
14:52
lot
14:53
of
14:53
freedom.
14:53
But
14:53
it
14:53
was
14:54
hard
14:54
at
14:54
first.
14:54
It
14:55
really
14:55
was.
14:55
I
14:55
remember
14:56
when
14:56
I
14:57
was
14:57
trying
14:57
to
14:57
figure
14:57
out,
14:57
when
14:58
can
14:58
I
14:58
let
14:58
her
14:59
go
14:59
to
14:59
the
14:59
corner
15:00
by
15:00
herself
15:01
without
15:01
me
15:01
being
15:02
with
15:02
you.
15:02
Yeah.
15:03
And
15:03
at
15:03
first
15:03
I
15:04
was
15:04
watching
15:04
you
15:05
go
15:05
to
15:05
the
15:05
corner
15:05
by
15:06
yourself.
15:06
I
15:06
was
15:06
behind
15:07
you.
15:09
So,
15:09
you
15:09
know,
15:10
I
15:10
was
15:10
being
15:11
careful.
15:11
But,
15:12
yeah,
15:12
I
15:12
feel
15:12
like
15:12
by
15:13
11
15:13
or
15:13
12,
15:13
in
15:14
other
15:14
countries,
15:15
kids
15:15
have
15:15
jobs.
15:15
Oh,
15:16
totally.
15:16
They
15:16
do.
15:17
They
15:17
do.
15:17
Kids
15:18
have
15:18
families.
15:19
Kids
15:19
have
15:20
responsibilities.
15:22
And
15:22
the
15:22
author
15:22
makes
15:23
the
15:23
point
15:23
that
15:23
we
15:24
need
15:24
to
15:24
give
15:24
kids
15:25
more
15:25
freedoms.
15:26
We
15:26
really
15:26
do.
15:27
Although
15:27
you
15:27
raised
15:28
me
15:28
in
15:28
New
15:28
York
15:28
City.
15:28
I
15:29
did.
15:29
Which
15:29
some
15:30
people
15:30
might
15:30
argue
15:30
was
15:31
a
15:31
safer
15:31
place
15:32
in
15:32
some
15:32
ways.
15:32
It
15:33
was
15:33
a
15:33
very
15:33
different
15:33
city
15:35
one
15:35
year
15:35
ago
15:35
when
15:36
I
15:36
was
15:36
a
15:36
child.
15:38
But
15:39
it
15:40
also,
15:41
you
15:41
know,
15:41
I
15:42
guess
15:42
there's
15:42
two
15:42
ways
15:42
of
15:42
looking
15:43
at
15:43
it.
15:43
Like,
15:43
do
15:43
you
15:44
want
15:44
your
15:44
kids
15:44
growing
15:45
up
15:45
in
15:45
a
15:45
place
15:45
where
15:45
there
15:46
are
15:46
people
15:46
all
15:46
around,
15:47
so
15:48
if
15:48
something
15:48
goes
15:48
down,
15:49
someone
15:49
will
15:49
bear
15:50
witness?
15:50
Or
15:50
do
15:50
you
15:51
want
15:51
your
15:51
kids
15:51
to
15:51
grow
15:51
up
15:52
in
15:52
a
15:52
place
15:52
where
15:53
no
15:53
one's
15:53
really
15:53
around,
15:54
except
15:55
sometimes
15:55
when
15:56
someone's
15:56
around
15:56
with
15:57
a
15:57
van?
15:57
Yeah,
15:58
I
15:58
know.
15:58
That's
15:58
what,
15:59
that's
15:59
what
15:59
happens
15:59
on
16:00
Dateline
16:00
every
16:00
week.
16:01
You
16:01
know,
16:01
it's
16:01
like,
16:01
I,
16:02
I,
16:02
I
16:02
don't
16:02
know.
16:03
Like,
16:03
I
16:03
kind
16:03
of
16:03
like
16:04
the
16:04
idea
16:04
of
16:05
there
16:05
being
16:05
a
16:05
lot
16:06
of
16:06
people
16:06
around.
16:07
Also,
16:08
people
16:08
in
16:08
New
16:08
York
16:08
will
16:09
intervene
16:09
if
16:10
someone's
16:10
doing
16:10
something
16:10
insane
16:11
on
16:11
the
16:12
street
16:12
to
16:12
a
16:12
Child,
16:13
someone
16:14
will
16:15
intervene.
16:15
I
16:15
think
16:16
so.
16:16
Yeah,
16:16
I,
16:16
I
16:17
think
16:17
so.
16:17
But
16:17
I
16:18
mean,
16:18
I
16:18
understand
16:19
parents
16:20
reticence
16:21
to
16:21
let
16:21
their
16:21
kids
16:22
go.
16:22
I
16:22
mean
16:23
that,
16:23
that
16:23
is
16:24
hard.
16:24
And
16:24
you
16:25
understand
16:25
now
16:25
that
16:25
you're
16:26
a
16:26
parent
16:26
how
16:27
hard
16:27
it
16:27
is
16:28
to.
16:28
Because
16:29
you,
16:29
you
16:30
have
16:30
to
16:30
trust
16:30
your
16:31
child.
16:31
But
16:31
it's
16:32
not
16:32
just
16:32
the
16:32
child.
16:32
You
16:33
have
16:33
to
16:33
trust
16:33
the
16:33
other
16:33
people.
16:34
I'll
16:34
hit
16:34
you
16:34
with
16:34
the
16:34
line
16:35
you
16:35
used
16:35
to
16:35
hit
16:35
me
16:35
with.
16:36
What?
16:36
It's
16:37
not
16:37
you
16:37
I
16:37
don't
16:37
trust,
16:38
it's
16:38
everybody
16:39
else.
16:40
That's
16:40
true.
16:41
That's
16:41
what
16:41
I
16:41
was
16:42
worried
16:42
about.
16:42
Although
16:42
I
16:43
didn't
16:43
trust
16:43
you
16:43
either.
16:44
So
16:44
that
16:45
was,
16:45
I
16:45
mean,
16:45
you
16:46
were
16:46
a
16:46
kid.
16:47
You
16:47
were
16:47
a
16:47
child.
16:48
Shot,
16:49
fire.
16:49
Sorry.
16:49
I
16:50
was
16:50
a
16:50
responsible
16:50
kid
16:51
mostly.
16:51
Yeah,
16:52
you
16:52
mostly
16:52
were.
16:53
You
16:53
really
16:53
were.
16:53
And
16:53
you
16:54
had.
16:54
And
16:54
you
16:54
ended
16:54
up
16:54
growing
16:55
up
16:55
with
16:55
really
16:56
good
16:56
street
16:56
smarts
16:57
because
16:57
you
16:58
were
16:58
brought
16:58
up
16:58
in
16:58
the
16:58
city.
16:59
I
16:59
think
16:59
I
16:59
was
16:59
brought
17:00
up
17:00
in
17:00
the
17:00
streets.
17:02
Well,
17:02
anyway,
17:03
I
17:03
mean,
17:03
was
17:03
that
17:04
what
17:04
they
17:04
say
17:04
is
17:04
that
17:05
this
17:05
is
17:05
the
17:05
way
17:05
kids
17:06
should
17:06
be
17:06
brought
17:06
up?
17:07
Because
17:07
by
17:08
doing
17:08
that,
17:08
that's
17:09
where
17:09
you
17:09
learn.
17:09
You
17:10
learn
17:10
to
17:10
fend
17:10
for
17:10
yourself.
17:11
You
17:11
learn
17:11
to.
17:12
If
17:12
there's
17:12
a
17:12
problem,
17:13
you
17:13
might
17:13
have
17:13
handled
17:14
it.
17:15
I
17:15
would
17:15
have
17:15
handled
17:16
it.
17:16
You
17:16
would
17:16
have
17:16
handled
17:16
it.
17:17
I
17:17
don't
17:17
know.
17:17
So
17:18
anyway,
17:18
but,
17:19
so
17:19
that's
17:19
what
17:19
he.
17:20
That's
17:20
how
17:21
kids
17:21
need
17:21
to
17:21
be
17:21
brought
17:22
up.
17:22
That's
17:22
how
17:22
our
17:23
brains
17:23
develop
17:24
properly.
17:25
If
17:25
we're
17:25
online
17:26
all
17:26
the
17:26
time.
17:26
If
17:26
a
17:27
child
17:27
is
17:27
online
17:28
and
17:28
instead
17:29
of
17:29
being
17:29
out
17:29
in
17:29
the
17:30
world,
17:30
you
17:30
know,
17:31
because
17:31
it's
17:31
much
17:31
more
17:31
interesting
17:32
to
17:32
post
17:33
things
17:34
and
17:34
get
17:35
likes
17:35
and
17:36
become
17:37
popular
17:37
online,
17:38
if
17:38
that's
17:38
all
17:39
they're
17:39
doing,
17:40
that
17:40
is
17:40
not
17:40
developing
17:41
their
17:41
brain
17:41
in
17:42
the
17:42
way
17:42
it
17:42
needs
17:42
to
17:42
be
17:43
developed.
17:44
And
17:44
what
17:44
they.
17:45
As
17:45
you
17:45
mentioned,
17:46
puberty
17:46
is
17:46
like
17:47
a
17:47
critical
17:47
time.
17:48
And
17:48
so,
17:50
you
17:50
know,
17:51
we,
17:51
we
17:52
need
17:52
them
17:53
doing
17:53
the
17:53
in
17:54
person,
17:55
in
17:55
real
17:55
world
17:56
stuff
17:57
during
17:57
and
17:58
up
17:58
until
17:58
at
17:58
least
17:59
puberty.
17:59
So
18:00
that's
18:00
because
18:00
that's
18:00
going
18:01
to
18:01
help
18:01
their
18:01
brains
18:01
develop
18:02
the
18:02
way
18:02
they
18:02
need
18:03
to.
18:03
Yeah.
18:03
And
18:03
yeah.
18:04
To
18:04
be
18:04
in
18:05
the
18:05
world.
18:05
Exactly.
18:06
As
18:06
adults.
18:07
Exactly.
18:08
Does
18:08
your
18:09
child
18:09
struggle
18:09
with
18:09
procrastinating,
18:10
managing
18:11
time,
18:11
staying
18:12
focused,
18:12
forgetting
18:13
things,
18:13
organizing,
18:14
planning,
18:15
studying,
18:16
or
18:16
staying
18:16
off
18:17
their
18:17
screens?
18:18
If
18:18
these
18:18
challenges
18:19
sound
18:19
familiar,
18:20
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18:20
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18:20
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18:21
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18:21
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18:21
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18:22
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18:22
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18:22
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18:22
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18:22
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18:23
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18:23
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18:23
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18:24
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18:24
workarounds
18:25
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18:25
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18:25
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18:25
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18:26
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18:26
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18:27
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18:27
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18:27
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18:28
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18:29
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18:30
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18:32
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18:32
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18:33
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18:33
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18:34
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18:34
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18:35
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18:36
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18:37
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18:38
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18:38
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18:39
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18:41
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18:41
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18:41
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18:42
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18:42
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18:42
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18:42
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18:43
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18:43
child
18:43
the
18:43
help
18:44
that
18:44
they
18:44
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18:45
The
18:45
longer
18:45
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18:45
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18:45
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18:46
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18:47
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18:48
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18:51
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18:51
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18:51
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18:51
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18:51
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18:52
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18:53
as
18:53
adults.
18:54
Exactly.
18:54
And
18:54
the
18:55
way
18:55
it
18:55
is
18:55
now
18:56
with
18:56
a
18:56
lot
18:57
of
18:57
kids
18:57
who
18:58
are
18:58
kind
18:58
of
18:58
on
18:58
TikTok
18:59
all
18:59
the
18:59
time,
19:00
they're
19:00
addicted
19:01
to
19:01
that
19:01
dopamine
19:02
rush
19:02
that
19:03
they
19:03
get
19:03
every
19:04
time
19:04
they
19:04
either
19:05
see
19:05
a
19:05
like
19:06
to
19:06
one
19:06
of
19:06
their
19:07
posts
19:08
or
19:08
they
19:08
check
19:09
to
19:09
see
19:09
if
19:10
there
19:10
are
19:10
any
19:10
new
19:11
likes
19:11
and
19:11
there
19:11
aren't.
19:12
And
19:12
that
19:12
just
19:13
keeps
19:13
them
19:13
checking
19:13
back
19:14
for
19:14
more.
19:15
She
19:15
compares
19:15
it
19:15
to
19:16
a
19:16
slot
19:16
machine.
19:17
Yes.
19:17
Which
19:17
makes
19:18
a
19:18
lot
19:18
of
19:18
sense.
19:19
Right.
19:20
Kids
19:20
are
19:20
walking
19:20
around
19:21
literally
19:21
with
19:21
a.
19:22
Slot
19:22
machine
19:22
because
19:23
you
19:23
pull
19:23
the
19:23
lever
19:23
and
19:24
you
19:24
don't
19:24
know
19:24
what's
19:24
going
19:24
to
19:25
show
19:25
up.
19:25
Right.
19:25
You
19:26
know,
19:26
you
19:26
could
19:26
win
19:26
big
19:27
or
19:27
you
19:27
could
19:27
lose.
19:28
Right.
19:29
I
19:29
don't
19:29
know
19:29
how
19:29
much
19:29
you
19:29
can
19:30
lose
19:30
at
19:30
any
19:30
time
19:30
in
19:30
a
19:30
slot
19:31
machine.
19:31
I've
19:31
never
19:31
played,
19:32
I've
19:32
never.
19:32
Gamble
19:33
a
19:33
lot.
19:33
You
19:33
can
19:33
lose
19:34
a
19:34
lot.
19:34
I
19:34
mean,
19:34
you
19:34
know,
19:35
in
19:35
a
19:35
slot
19:35
machine.
19:36
Yeah.
19:36
There's.
19:37
You
19:37
can.
19:37
There
19:37
are
19:37
some
19:38
that
19:38
are
19:38
like
19:38
dollar
19:38
slots
19:39
and
19:39
there
19:39
are
19:39
some
19:40
that
19:40
are
19:40
like
19:40
five
19:41
dollar
19:41
and
19:41
twenty.
19:42
I
19:43
hate
19:43
losing
19:43
money.
19:43
Yeah,
19:43
me
19:44
too.
19:44
But
19:45
anyway,
19:45
I
19:45
mean,
19:46
you
19:46
know,
19:46
so
19:46
it
19:46
is.
19:47
It's
19:47
like
19:47
having
19:47
a
19:47
slot
19:48
machine
19:48
in
19:48
your
19:48
pocket.
19:49
It
19:50
promotes
19:50
addictive
19:51
behavior
19:53
and
19:53
it
19:53
does
19:54
not
19:54
help
19:54
a
19:54
child's
19:55
brain
19:55
develop.
19:56
And
19:56
in
19:56
fact,
19:56
it
19:56
gets
19:57
them
19:57
so
19:57
used
19:57
to
19:58
this,
19:58
these
19:59
quick,
19:59
instant
20:00
rewards.
20:01
That's
20:02
what
20:02
it's
20:02
teaching
20:03
a
20:03
child's
20:03
brain
20:04
to
20:04
look
20:04
for.
20:05
You
20:05
know,
20:05
they
20:05
can't
20:06
focus
20:06
on
20:06
something
20:07
if
20:07
it's
20:07
not
20:08
interesting.
20:08
Like
20:08
when
20:09
they're
20:09
going
20:09
through
20:09
TikTok,
20:10
I
20:10
think
20:10
they
20:10
give
20:11
it
20:11
one
20:11
or
20:11
two
20:11
seconds
20:12
before
20:12
they
20:12
move
20:12
on.
20:13
And
20:13
so
20:13
much
20:13
of
20:14
adult
20:14
learning
20:14
life
20:14
is
20:14
deeply
20:15
uninteresting.
20:16
Well,
20:16
yeah.
20:17
And
20:17
you
20:17
have
20:17
to
20:17
focus.
20:18
I
20:18
mean,
20:18
a
20:18
lot
20:18
of
20:18
times,
20:19
I
20:19
mean,
20:19
focus
20:19
is
20:20
critical
20:20
to
20:21
being
20:21
able
20:22
to
20:22
work,
20:23
get
20:23
through
20:24
school,
20:25
do,
20:25
you
20:25
know,
20:25
do
20:25
your
20:26
jobs.
20:26
Ultimately
20:27
hot
20:27
take.
20:27
Most
20:28
people
20:28
don't
20:28
love
20:28
their
20:29
jobs
20:29
and
20:29
yet
20:30
they
20:30
still
20:30
have
20:31
to
20:31
show
20:31
up
20:31
every
20:31
day.
20:32
Right.
20:32
And
20:32
do
20:32
them.
20:33
That's
20:33
right.
20:33
Right.
20:34
There's
20:34
a
20:34
lot
20:34
of
20:34
boredom
20:35
in
20:35
this
20:35
world.
20:35
Yeah.
20:36
You
20:36
must
20:36
learn
20:36
to
20:36
cope
20:37
with
20:37
boredom
20:38
lest
20:38
ye
20:39
be
20:39
bored.
20:40
Yes,
20:40
yes.
20:41
And
20:41
what
20:42
they're
20:42
saying,
20:42
what
20:43
he
20:43
talks
20:43
about
20:43
is
20:44
he
20:44
says
20:44
by
20:44
being
20:45
on
20:45
the
20:45
phone
20:45
all
20:46
the
20:46
time,
20:46
it's
20:47
depriving
20:47
kids
20:48
socially.
20:48
They
20:49
don't
20:49
have
20:49
those
20:49
in
20:49
person
20:50
friendships.
20:51
It's
20:52
impacting
20:52
their
20:52
sleep
20:54
because
20:54
they're
20:54
on
20:55
late
20:55
at
20:55
night,
20:56
so
20:56
their
20:56
sleep
20:57
is
20:57
bad,
20:57
which
20:58
causes
20:58
depression,
20:59
anxiety,
21:00
cognitive
21:00
problems.
21:02
They
21:02
have
21:02
fragmented
21:03
attention.
21:04
They
21:05
can
21:05
only
21:05
look
21:05
at
21:05
things
21:05
very
21:06
quickly
21:06
and,
21:07
and
21:07
finally
21:08
addicted
21:08
behaviors.
21:09
And
21:09
so
21:10
all
21:10
of
21:10
those
21:10
are
21:10
bad.
21:11
And
21:11
just
21:11
like
21:12
as
21:12
we
21:12
talked
21:12
about,
21:13
girls
21:14
are
21:14
more
21:14
hurt,
21:15
they
21:15
say,
21:16
than
21:16
boys.
21:16
Boys
21:17
get
21:17
much
21:17
more
21:17
into
21:17
gaming.
21:18
Yeah.
21:19
Girls,
21:19
girls
21:20
are
21:20
much
21:20
more
21:20
interested
21:20
in
21:21
social
21:21
media
21:21
and
21:22
that
21:22
sort
21:22
of
21:22
thing.
21:23
Beauty.
21:24
And
21:26
there
21:26
are
21:26
eight
21:27
year
21:27
olds
21:27
at
21:27
Sephora
21:28
now.
21:28
Really?
21:28
Yeah.
21:29
It's
21:29
crazy
21:29
looking
21:30
at
21:30
anti
21:30
aging
21:31
products.
21:31
It's
21:32
like,
21:32
girl,
21:32
you
21:33
can't
21:33
be
21:33
serious.
21:33
You,
21:34
you
21:35
still
21:35
have
21:35
stem
21:35
cells
21:36
on
21:36
your
21:36
face
21:37
that
21:37
you
21:37
were
21:37
born
21:38
with.
21:38
Like
21:38
relax.
21:39
Yes.
21:40
It's
21:40
crazy.
21:41
These
21:41
girls
21:42
playing
21:42
with
21:42
makeup.
21:43
I
21:43
feel
21:43
like
21:43
that's
21:43
a
21:43
new
21:44
thing
21:44
too.
21:44
Like
21:45
I
21:45
see
21:45
these
21:46
videos
21:46
of
21:47
these
21:47
like
21:47
10,
21:47
11,
21:48
12
21:48
year
21:48
old
21:48
girls
21:49
online
21:50
and
21:52
they
21:52
look
21:53
the
21:53
way
21:54
I
21:54
did
21:54
when
21:54
I
21:54
was
21:54
like
21:55
18,
21:55
19
21:55
and
21:56
working
21:56
at
21:56
a
21:56
nightclub.
21:57
Wow.
21:57
And
21:57
I
21:58
look
21:58
at
21:58
the
21:58
videos
21:58
that
21:59
my
21:59
friends
21:59
and
21:59
I
21:59
used
22:00
to
22:00
make
22:00
when
22:00
we
22:00
were
22:00
that
22:01
age.
22:02
We
22:02
were
22:02
not
22:02
that
22:03
cute.
22:03
We
22:04
act
22:04
just
22:04
like,
22:04
well,
22:04
how
22:05
these
22:05
girls
22:05
look
22:05
so
22:06
good.
22:06
I
22:06
mean
22:06
they
22:06
know
22:06
about
22:07
contouring,
22:08
they
22:08
know
22:08
about
22:09
skin.
22:10
So
22:10
they
22:10
learn
22:10
it
22:10
on
22:11
the,
22:11
on,
22:11
on
22:11
Tick
22:12
Tock
22:12
videos.
22:12
I
22:13
was
22:13
washing
22:13
my
22:14
face
22:14
with
22:14
bar
22:15
soap
22:15
until
22:16
I
22:16
was
22:17
19.
22:17
Is
22:18
that
22:18
a
22:18
bad
22:18
thing?
22:19
Yes.
22:19
Oh,
22:19
I
22:19
didn't
22:20
know
22:20
that.
22:20
Yes.
22:21
That's
22:21
not
22:22
Irish
22:22
Spring.
22:23
Oh,
22:23
okay.
22:23
Not
22:24
your
22:24
face.
22:25
Okay.
22:26
Even
22:26
learn.
22:27
Well,
22:27
kids
22:27
today
22:28
know
22:28
these
22:28
things.
22:29
Yes.
22:29
I
22:29
mean
22:29
they,
22:30
they
22:30
know
22:30
benefits
22:30
of
22:31
the
22:31
Internet,
22:31
but,
22:32
but
22:32
they
22:32
shouldn't
22:33
know
22:33
these
22:33
things.
22:33
I
22:34
mean,
22:34
I
22:34
don't
22:34
think
22:34
a
22:34
10
22:35
year
22:35
old
22:35
girl
22:35
should
22:36
know
22:36
those
22:36
things.
22:36
I
22:37
mean,
22:37
why
22:37
is
22:37
that
22:37
important?
22:38
What
22:38
does
22:39
she
22:39
need
22:39
with
22:39
this
22:39
information?
22:40
Where
22:40
is
22:40
she
22:41
going?
22:41
I
22:41
don't
22:41
know,
22:42
but
22:42
she
22:42
doesn't
22:42
need
22:42
this
22:43
information.
22:43
To
22:43
fifth
22:43
grade.
22:44
Yeah,
22:44
like
22:45
relax.
22:46
Right?
22:46
No,
22:47
I
22:47
would
22:47
agree
22:47
with
22:48
you,
22:48
but
22:48
boys
22:49
get
22:49
much
22:49
more
22:50
into
22:50
gaming
22:51
and
22:52
they
22:53
love
22:53
that
22:55
and
22:55
they
22:56
play
22:56
with
22:56
other
22:56
groups
22:57
of
22:57
boys,
22:58
kids
22:59
or
22:59
maybe
22:59
adults.
23:00
Yeah,
23:00
I
23:01
think
23:01
different
23:01
games,
23:02
it's
23:02
different
23:03
things,
23:03
I
23:03
guess
23:03
you
23:03
can
23:04
play
23:04
with
23:04
your
23:04
friends.
23:07
My
23:07
husband
23:07
sometimes
23:08
plays
23:08
games
23:08
and
23:08
he
23:09
has
23:09
this
23:09
whole
23:09
group
23:10
of
23:10
people
23:11
he
23:11
met
23:11
in
23:12
Kentucky
23:13
and
23:13
it's
23:13
so
23:14
funny
23:14
because
23:14
they
23:15
have
23:15
like
23:15
nothing
23:15
in
23:16
common.
23:17
Like
23:17
some
23:17
of
23:17
these
23:17
guys
23:18
have
23:18
never
23:18
even
23:18
been
23:18
on
23:19
a
23:19
plane.
23:19
But
23:20
they
23:20
love
23:20
to
23:20
play
23:20
games.
23:21
They
23:21
do.
23:21
They're
23:22
a
23:22
great
23:22
little
23:22
team.
23:23
They
23:23
know
23:24
everything
23:24
about
23:24
each
23:24
other's
23:25
lives.
23:25
But
23:26
they're
23:26
grown
23:26
up.
23:26
They
23:26
are,
23:27
they're
23:27
adults.
23:27
So
23:28
that's
23:28
fine.
23:28
I
23:28
will
23:29
say
23:29
when
23:29
I
23:30
got
23:30
to
23:30
this
23:30
point
23:30
in
23:30
the
23:30
book,
23:31
I'm
23:31
about
23:31
at
23:31
150
23:32
page
23:33
150.
23:34
I
23:35
said,
23:35
okay,
23:36
I'm
23:36
convinced
23:37
I
23:37
need
23:38
to
23:38
take
23:38
social
23:38
media
23:39
and
23:39
you
23:39
know,
23:40
and
23:41
smartphones
23:41
away
23:41
from
23:42
my
23:42
child.
23:43
Well,
23:44
you
23:44
can't
23:44
because
23:44
I'm
23:45
grown
23:45
I.
23:45
Was
23:45
convinced
23:45
at
23:45
page
23:46
150
23:47
and
23:47
there
23:47
were
23:47
150
23:48
more
23:48
pages
23:48
to
23:49
go.
23:50
I'm
23:51
gonna
23:51
take
23:51
it
23:51
away
23:51
from
23:51
my
23:52
3
23:52
month
23:52
old
23:52
for
23:52
sure.
23:53
Oh,
23:53
for
23:54
sure.
23:54
I
23:54
mean,
23:54
at
23:54
this
23:55
point,
23:55
yeah.
23:56
I
23:56
was
23:56
so
23:56
convinced,
23:57
it
23:57
was
23:57
like,
23:57
I
23:57
don't
23:57
even
23:58
need
23:58
any
23:58
more
23:58
of
23:58
the
23:59
book.
23:59
I'm
24:00
done.
24:00
I've
24:00
seen
24:01
enough.
24:01
I.
24:03
And
24:03
I
24:03
think
24:03
most
24:04
people
24:04
who
24:04
read
24:04
this
24:05
book
24:05
will
24:05
be
24:05
thoroughly
24:06
convinced.
24:06
I
24:06
agree.
24:07
That
24:07
this
24:07
is
24:07
what
24:08
we
24:08
need
24:08
to
24:08
do
24:08
and
24:09
it's
24:09
not
24:09
easy.
24:09
And
24:10
so
24:10
they
24:10
talk
24:11
about
24:11
in
24:11
the
24:11
book
24:12
what
24:12
can
24:12
be
24:12
done.
24:13
And
24:13
first
24:14
he
24:14
talks
24:14
about
24:14
what
24:15
the
24:15
government
24:15
can
24:16
do,
24:17
which
24:18
should
24:18
be
24:18
more.
24:18
And
24:19
tech
24:19
companies.
24:19
And
24:20
tech
24:20
companies.
24:20
Yes.
24:20
But
24:21
it's
24:21
not.
24:21
His
24:22
whole
24:22
thing
24:22
is
24:22
it's
24:22
really
24:23
not
24:23
in
24:23
the
24:23
tech
24:23
company's
24:24
shareholders
24:24
interest
24:25
for
24:25
people
24:26
to
24:26
use
24:26
these
24:26
apps
24:27
less.
24:27
Right.
24:28
So
24:28
one
24:28
thing
24:28
he
24:29
does
24:29
suggest
24:30
is
24:31
like
24:31
a.
24:31
For
24:32
example,
24:32
you
24:32
go
24:32
to
24:32
a
24:33
bank,
24:33
you
24:33
have
24:34
to
24:34
verify
24:34
who
24:35
you
24:35
are.
24:35
Right.
24:35
Bank.
24:36
Everybody
24:36
else
24:37
doesn't
24:37
need
24:37
to
24:37
know
24:37
that
24:37
you
24:37
have
24:38
an
24:38
account
24:38
at
24:38
this
24:38
bank,
24:39
but
24:39
the
24:39
bank
24:39
needs
24:40
to
24:40
know
24:40
who
24:40
you
24:40
are.
24:41
Right.
24:41
Unless
24:41
it's
24:41
hsbc,
24:43
which
24:43
Tea
24:44
for
24:44
another
24:44
time.
24:45
Okay.
24:45
But
24:47
essentially
24:48
he's
24:48
like
24:48
the.
24:49
Everybody
24:49
should
24:49
be
24:49
verified
24:50
for
24:50
their
24:50
age
24:51
on
24:51
the
24:51
Internet.
24:52
And
24:52
in
24:52
the
24:52
interest
24:53
of
24:53
just
24:54
being
24:54
like
24:54
this
24:54
is
24:54
who
24:55
they
24:55
say
24:55
they
24:55
are.
24:56
Absolutely.
24:57
No,
24:57
absolutely.
24:58
To
24:58
keep
24:58
kids
24:58
out
24:58
of
24:59
adult
24:59
spaces.
25:00
And
25:00
he
25:00
argues
25:00
that
25:01
the
25:01
Internet,
25:01
an
25:02
inherently
25:02
adult
25:03
space,
25:03
which
25:04
it
25:04
is,
25:04
it.
25:04
Is,
25:05
it
25:05
is
25:05
for
25:06
the
25:06
most
25:06
part.
25:06
I
25:06
mean,
25:06
there
25:06
are
25:07
educational
25:07
apps
25:08
and
25:08
things
25:08
like
25:08
that
25:08
that
25:09
are
25:09
designed
25:09
for
25:09
children
25:10
and
25:11
those
25:11
are
25:11
okay.
25:12
But
25:12
in
25:12
terms
25:13
of
25:13
social
25:13
media,
25:14
he
25:14
says
25:14
that's
25:14
what
25:15
he's
25:15
talking
25:15
about.
25:15
He's
25:16
not
25:16
talking
25:16
about
25:17
maybe
25:18
a
25:18
long
25:19
movie
25:19
that
25:19
a
25:19
child
25:20
might
25:20
watch
25:21
or
25:21
talking
25:22
to
25:22
their
25:22
grandparents
25:23
on
25:23
FaceTime
25:24
or
25:24
something
25:25
like
25:25
that,
25:26
or
25:26
doing
25:26
some
25:27
educational
25:28
apps.
25:28
Those
25:29
are
25:29
fine.
25:30
But
25:30
what
25:30
do
25:30
you.
25:31
What
25:31
he
25:31
is
25:31
talking
25:31
about
25:32
is
25:32
kids
25:32
being
25:33
on
25:33
TikTok,
25:33
kids
25:34
being
25:34
on
25:35
Snapchat,
25:36
which,
25:36
I
25:36
mean,
25:36
these
25:36
are
25:36
all
25:37
adult
25:37
spaces.
25:38
These
25:38
children
25:39
do
25:39
not
25:39
belong
25:39
there.
25:40
I've
25:40
never
25:40
had
25:40
a
25:41
TikTok
25:42
because
25:43
I
25:43
just
25:43
feel
25:44
like
25:44
I
25:45
know
25:45
people
25:45
of
25:45
all
25:45
ages
25:46
are
25:46
on
25:46
it,
25:46
but
25:46
personally
25:47
I
25:47
just
25:47
feel
25:47
too
25:48
old
25:48
and
25:49
like
25:49
I
25:49
have
25:49
too
25:49
much
25:49
adhd.
25:50
Right.
25:51
I
25:51
just,
25:51
I'm
25:51
afraid
25:52
it
25:52
will
25:52
take
25:52
over
25:52
my
25:53
life
25:53
because
25:54
that's
25:54
what
25:54
it
25:54
is
25:54
designed
25:55
to
25:55
do.
25:56
Yeah.
25:56
He
25:57
also,
25:57
there
25:58
is
25:58
a
25:58
podcast
25:59
that
25:59
he
25:59
talks
26:00
about
26:00
the
26:00
book
26:00
on
26:01
where
26:01
he.
26:02
He
26:02
mentions
26:03
communist
26:03
China
26:04
several
26:04
times,
26:05
which
26:05
I
26:05
thought
26:05
was
26:05
very
26:05
funny.
26:06
Well,
26:06
it's
26:06
owned.
26:06
That
26:06
TikTok
26:07
is
26:07
owned
26:07
by
26:08
a
26:08
Chinese
26:08
company.
26:09
That's
26:09
what
26:09
he's
26:10
talking
26:10
about.
26:10
And
26:11
perhaps
26:12
it's
26:12
a
26:12
psyop.
26:13
Yeah.
26:14
Maybe
26:14
they're
26:14
trying
26:14
to
26:15
hurt
26:15
us.
26:15
I
26:16
don't
26:16
know.
26:16
That's
26:17
what
26:17
he
26:17
says.
26:17
Well,
26:18
our
26:18
stupid
26:19
videos.
26:19
Well,
26:20
who
26:20
knows?
26:21
Serving
26:22
up
26:22
information,
26:22
that
26:23
could
26:23
be
26:23
bad
26:23
for
26:23
us,
26:24
I
26:24
suppose.
26:25
Yeah.
26:26
But
26:26
I
26:26
don't
26:26
think
26:26
we
26:27
can
26:27
wait
26:27
for
26:27
government
26:28
or
26:29
tech
26:30
companies
26:30
to
26:31
change.
26:32
I
26:32
mean,
26:32
I
26:32
hope
26:32
they
26:33
do.
26:33
I
26:33
hope
26:33
they
26:33
pass
26:34
laws
26:34
that
26:34
make
26:35
it
26:35
harder
26:35
for
26:37
kids
26:37
to
26:37
be
26:38
online,
26:38
but
26:39
I
26:39
don't
26:39
think
26:39
we
26:39
can
26:39
wait
26:40
for
26:40
that.
26:40
So
26:40
it's
26:41
hard
26:41
when
26:41
everyone
26:42
has
26:42
it.
26:43
That's
26:43
the
26:43
issue.
26:43
It's.
26:44
How
26:44
do
26:44
you
26:44
justify
26:45
to
26:45
your
26:45
teenager.
26:46
I
26:47
know
26:47
all
26:47
of
26:47
your
26:48
friends
26:48
have
26:49
this
26:49
app
26:50
and
26:50
their
26:50
parents
26:51
think
26:51
it's
26:51
okay.
26:52
I
26:52
don't.
26:53
Right.
26:54
Well,
26:54
what
26:54
he
26:54
talks
26:55
about
26:55
is
26:56
trying
26:57
to
26:57
get
26:58
parents
26:58
to
26:59
band
26:59
together
27:00
and
27:02
pledge
27:03
not
27:03
to
27:03
give
27:03
their
27:04
children
27:04
smartphones
27:05
before
27:05
high
27:06
school
27:06
and
27:07
not
27:07
to
27:07
give
27:07
kids
27:08
social
27:08
media
27:09
before
27:09
age
27:10
16.
27:10
That
27:11
is
27:11
what
27:11
he
27:12
advocates
27:13
that
27:13
parents
27:14
should
27:14
do.
27:15
And
27:16
he
27:16
says
27:16
that
27:18
the
27:18
issue
27:18
being
27:18
if
27:19
all
27:19
their
27:19
friends
27:19
are
27:20
doing
27:20
it
27:20
or
27:20
have
27:20
phones,
27:21
they're
27:21
going
27:21
to
27:21
be
27:22
upset.
27:22
Yeah,
27:22
but
27:23
if
27:23
other
27:24
parents
27:24
are
27:24
doing
27:25
the
27:25
same
27:25
thing,
27:26
then
27:26
kids
27:27
would
27:27
be
27:27
willing
27:27
to
27:27
go
27:28
along
27:28
with
27:28
maybe
27:29
not
27:29
having
27:29
a
27:29
phone
27:30
till
27:30
they're
27:30
older.
27:31
So
27:31
it's.
27:31
It's.
27:32
It's
27:32
a
27:32
group
27:32
problem,
27:33
and
27:33
it
27:33
really
27:34
requires
27:34
a
27:34
group
27:35
solution.
27:35
Yeah.
27:36
So
27:36
that's
27:36
what
27:36
he
27:37
talks
27:37
about.
27:37
They
27:37
talk
27:38
about
27:38
these
27:38
things.
27:38
They're
27:39
called
27:39
wonder
27:39
bags
27:40
or
27:40
something.
27:41
Yes.
27:42
I
27:42
had
27:42
my
27:42
first
27:43
experience
27:43
with
27:43
one
27:43
last
27:44
week
27:44
where
27:45
you
27:45
put
27:45
your
27:45
phone
27:45
in
27:45
it
27:46
and
27:46
it
27:46
locks,
27:46
and
27:46
at
27:47
the
27:47
end
27:47
of
27:47
whatever
27:47
it
27:47
is
27:48
you're
27:48
doing,
27:48
it
27:48
gets
27:48
unlocked,
27:49
Locked.
27:49
Right.
27:49
And
27:50
I
27:50
think
27:50
it's
27:50
interesting
27:51
for
27:51
school.
27:51
For
27:52
school.
27:52
He
27:52
talks
27:52
about
27:52
it
27:53
for
27:53
school.
27:53
I
27:53
think
27:53
that
27:53
would
27:54
be
27:54
a
27:54
really
27:54
good
27:54
idea
27:55
for
27:55
schools.
27:56
I
27:56
know
27:56
some
27:56
parents
27:57
are
27:57
against
27:57
it,
27:58
and
27:59
I
27:59
can
27:59
understand
27:59
why.
28:00
It's
28:00
like
28:00
you
28:00
want
28:00
to
28:00
be
28:01
able
28:01
to
28:01
communicate
28:01
with
28:01
your
28:02
kid
28:02
if,
28:02
God
28:02
forbid,
28:03
the
28:03
worst
28:03
happens,
28:04
but.
28:05
Which
28:05
is
28:05
so
28:05
unfortunate
28:06
that.
28:06
Yeah,
28:07
that
28:07
is
28:08
enough
28:08
of
28:08
a
28:08
justification.
28:09
Right.
28:10
Not
28:10
doing
28:10
it.
28:10
Like,
28:11
what
28:11
world?
28:12
Well,
28:12
yeah,
28:12
I
28:12
mean,
28:13
because
28:13
he.
28:13
He
28:13
really
28:14
talks
28:14
about
28:14
how
28:15
disruptive
28:15
having
28:16
a
28:16
phone
28:16
is.
28:17
School
28:17
is
28:17
for
28:18
children.
28:18
And
28:19
that
28:19
even
28:19
schools
28:20
that
28:20
ban
28:21
cell
28:21
phones,
28:22
but
28:22
allow
28:23
them,
28:23
like
28:24
they
28:24
ban
28:25
cell
28:25
phones
28:25
during
28:25
class,
28:26
but
28:26
allow
28:26
them
28:27
between
28:27
classes.
28:28
That
28:28
means
28:28
kids
28:29
aren't
28:29
gonna
28:29
be
28:29
talking
28:29
to
28:30
each
28:30
other.
28:30
They're
28:30
just
28:30
gonna
28:31
be
28:31
checking
28:31
their
28:31
social
28:32
media
28:32
in
28:32
between
28:33
classes.
28:33
So
28:34
he
28:34
advocates,
28:35
you
28:35
know,
28:35
ban
28:36
cell
28:36
phones
28:37
from
28:37
bell
28:38
to
28:38
bell,
28:38
morning
28:39
to
28:39
night.
28:39
And
28:40
I
28:40
think
28:40
that
28:41
makes
28:41
sense.
28:41
He
28:41
also
28:42
talks,
28:42
too
28:42
about
28:42
how,
28:43
as
28:43
a
28:43
parent,
28:43
and
28:44
this
28:44
really
28:44
struck
28:44
me
28:45
as
28:45
a
28:45
new
28:45
parent,
28:46
I
28:46
have
28:46
an
28:46
infant,
28:47
and
28:47
there's
28:47
A
28:47
lot
28:47
of
28:47
downtime.
28:48
You
28:48
know,
28:49
babies
28:49
sleep
28:50
a
28:50
lot,
28:50
you
28:50
know,
28:50
when
28:51
she's
28:51
nursing,
28:51
like.
28:52
And
28:52
there
28:53
is
28:53
an
28:53
impulse
28:54
to
28:54
check
28:55
my
28:55
phone.
28:55
And
28:55
he's
28:56
like,
28:56
do
28:56
not
28:56
do
28:56
that
28:57
when
28:57
you
28:57
are
28:57
with
28:58
your
28:58
small
28:58
child.
28:59
Right.
28:59
You
28:59
need
28:59
to
28:59
be
29:00
focused
29:00
on
29:00
your
29:00
small
29:01
child,
29:01
not
29:01
because
29:01
they're
29:02
in
29:02
danger,
29:02
but
29:02
because
29:03
they're
29:03
learning
29:04
social
29:04
cues,
29:05
too.
29:05
Yes.
29:06
You
29:06
know,
29:06
they're
29:07
learning.
29:07
They're
29:07
looking
29:07
for
29:08
eye
29:08
contact.
29:09
They're
29:09
looking
29:10
for
29:11
some
29:11
form
29:12
of
29:12
communication.
29:13
Right.
29:14
And
29:14
it's
29:15
really
29:15
important
29:16
at
29:16
that
29:16
developmental
29:17
stage
29:18
that
29:18
they
29:19
are
29:19
connected
29:20
to
29:20
in
29:20
that
29:20
way.
29:21
That's
29:21
right.
29:22
If
29:23
they're
29:23
trying
29:23
to
29:23
connect
29:24
with
29:24
you
29:24
and
29:25
you're
29:25
sort
29:25
of
29:25
half
29:26
paying
29:26
attention
29:26
to
29:26
them
29:27
and
29:27
half
29:27
paying
29:27
attention
29:28
to
29:28
your
29:28
phone,
29:29
they're
29:30
not
29:30
developing
29:31
the
29:31
way
29:31
they
29:31
need
29:31
to
29:32
develop
29:32
that
29:34
eye
29:34
to
29:35
eye
29:35
contact
29:36
and
29:36
that
29:37
where
29:37
they
29:37
copy
29:38
what
29:38
you
29:38
do,
29:39
where
29:40
you
29:40
say
29:40
something,
29:41
they
29:41
respond.
29:43
They're
29:43
learning,
29:44
you
29:44
know,
29:44
at
29:44
that
29:45
point.
29:45
So
29:45
you
29:46
have
29:46
to
29:46
keep
29:46
that
29:47
open
29:47
and
29:47
be
29:48
really
29:48
focused.
29:48
That's
29:49
right.
29:49
And
29:49
my
29:49
baby,
29:50
she
29:50
loves
29:51
to
29:51
stare.
29:52
She
29:52
stares
29:52
and
29:52
stares.
29:53
Well,
29:53
she's
29:53
very
29:54
communicative.
29:54
She
29:55
really
29:55
is.
29:56
And
29:56
so
29:56
you
29:56
don't
29:57
want
29:57
to
29:57
lose
29:57
that
29:57
by.
29:58
No,
29:58
I
29:59
don't
29:59
want
29:59
to
29:59
discourage
29:59
it.
30:00
I
30:00
don't
30:00
want
30:00
her
30:00
to,
30:00
like,
30:01
give
30:01
up.
30:01
Right.
30:02
Absolutely.
30:03
Absolutely,
30:05
I
30:05
will
30:06
say
30:06
that.
30:06
Okay.
30:07
So
30:07
he's
30:07
saying,
30:07
you
30:08
know,
30:09
he
30:09
is
30:09
saying
30:09
that
30:11
you
30:11
want
30:11
to
30:12
give
30:12
your
30:12
kids
30:12
more
30:13
experiences
30:14
in
30:14
the
30:14
real
30:14
world.
30:15
And
30:16
one
30:16
of
30:17
the
30:17
things
30:17
he
30:17
says
30:17
is
30:17
let
30:18
your
30:18
kids
30:18
out
30:18
of
30:18
your
30:18
sight
30:19
without
30:19
having
30:19
a
30:19
way
30:20
to
30:20
reach
30:20
you.
30:21
So
30:21
if
30:21
they
30:21
have
30:21
a
30:22
problem,
30:22
they
30:23
could
30:23
solve
30:23
it
30:23
themselves.
30:24
I
30:25
would
30:25
disagree
30:26
with
30:26
that
30:27
as
30:27
a
30:27
parent
30:28
myself,
30:28
and
30:29
he's
30:29
a
30:29
parent
30:29
too,
30:30
so
30:30
people
30:31
have
30:31
different
30:31
views
30:32
about
30:32
this,
30:33
but
30:34
I
30:34
don't
30:34
know.
30:35
I
30:35
think
30:35
you
30:35
can
30:35
give
30:35
a
30:36
child
30:36
a
30:36
cell
30:37
phone
30:38
or
30:38
that
30:39
doesn't
30:39
have
30:39
social
30:40
media
30:40
on
30:40
it,
30:41
but
30:41
does
30:42
allow
30:42
them
30:43
to
30:43
get
30:43
in
30:44
contact
30:44
with
30:44
you
30:44
if
30:45
there's
30:45
some
30:46
urgent
30:46
situation
30:48
or,
30:49
like.
30:49
You
30:49
secretly
30:50
tracking
30:50
me.
30:51
My
30:51
mom
30:51
got
30:52
the
30:52
first
30:52
phone
30:53
that
30:53
you
30:54
could
30:54
track
30:54
people
30:54
on.
30:55
I
30:55
did.
30:55
I
30:55
did.
30:55
It
30:56
was
30:56
a
30:56
Nextel.
30:57
It
30:57
was
30:57
the
30:57
kind
30:57
that
30:58
you
30:58
could
30:58
chirp
30:58
people
30:59
on.
31:00
And
31:00
only
31:01
two
31:01
of
31:01
my
31:01
other
31:01
friends
31:02
had
31:02
them.
31:02
And,
31:03
like,
31:03
construction
31:04
workers.
31:05
But
31:06
you
31:06
could
31:06
track
31:06
me.
31:07
I
31:07
did.
31:07
I
31:08
was
31:08
the
31:08
first
31:08
parent
31:09
who
31:09
did
31:09
that
31:09
in
31:10
the
31:10
whole
31:11
block.
31:11
Yeah,
31:11
except
31:12
joke's
31:12
on
31:12
you,
31:12
because
31:13
when
31:13
I
31:13
figured
31:13
that
31:13
out,
31:14
I
31:14
would
31:14
leave
31:14
my
31:15
phone
31:15
in
31:15
acceptable
31:16
places
31:16
and
31:17
not
31:17
be
31:17
reachable.
31:18
Oh,
31:18
did
31:18
you?
31:18
Did
31:19
you
31:19
do
31:19
that?
31:19
Yeah,
31:19
I
31:20
did
31:20
not
31:20
want
31:20
to
31:20
be
31:20
tracked.
31:21
Oh,
31:21
really?
31:22
And
31:22
surveilled.
31:23
Oh,
31:24
you
31:24
know
31:24
what
31:24
it
31:24
was
31:25
was
31:26
it
31:26
was
31:26
a
31:26
cell
31:27
phone
31:27
that
31:27
Had
31:28
a
31:28
tracking
31:29
program
31:29
for
31:30
truckers
31:30
that
31:31
trucking
31:31
companies
31:32
could
31:32
see
31:33
if
31:33
their
31:33
trucks
31:34
were
31:34
being
31:35
driven
31:36
off,
31:37
you
31:37
know,
31:37
where
31:38
they
31:38
were
31:38
supposed
31:38
to
31:38
be.
31:39
And
31:39
that's
31:39
why
31:39
they
31:39
had
31:40
that.
31:40
It
31:40
was
31:40
the
31:40
only
31:41
cell
31:42
phone
31:42
or
31:42
that
31:42
had
31:43
that
31:43
program.
31:43
And
31:43
I
31:43
found
31:43
it.
31:44
Leave
31:44
it
31:44
to
31:44
Dean.
31:45
I
31:45
found
31:45
it
31:45
and
31:46
I
31:46
got.
31:46
And
31:46
I
31:46
gave
31:47
it
31:47
to
31:47
you
31:47
so
31:47
that
31:47
I.
31:48
And
31:48
I
31:48
used
31:48
to
31:48
sit
31:48
there
31:49
and
31:49
wonder
31:49
why
31:50
you
31:50
weren't
31:50
moving
31:50
for
31:51
so
31:51
long.
31:52
I
31:52
guess
31:52
that's
31:52
why.
31:53
Okay.
31:54
But
31:54
now
31:54
every
31:54
parent
31:55
does
31:55
it.
31:55
I
31:56
mean,
31:56
you
31:56
know,
31:56
I
31:56
mean,
31:57
I
31:57
track.
31:58
Me.
31:58
I
31:58
track
31:58
you.
31:59
Yeah,
32:00
Yeah.
32:00
I
32:01
love
32:01
collecting
32:02
locations.
32:02
I
32:02
do,
32:03
too.
32:03
I
32:03
do
32:03
too.
32:04
Just.
32:04
Just
32:04
give
32:04
me
32:04
your
32:04
location.
32:05
Don't
32:06
worry
32:06
about
32:06
what
32:06
I
32:06
like
32:07
to
32:07
know
32:07
where
32:07
they.
32:07
People
32:07
are.
32:08
I
32:08
agree
32:08
with
32:09
you.
32:09
That's
32:09
fun.
32:10
But
32:10
anyway,
32:11
so
32:12
they,
32:12
you
32:12
know,
32:12
he
32:12
also
32:13
says,
32:13
you
32:14
know,
32:14
it's
32:14
important
32:14
to
32:15
give
32:15
your
32:15
teens
32:16
access
32:16
to
32:17
transportation
32:18
so
32:18
they
32:18
can
32:18
get
32:18
around
32:19
on
32:19
their
32:19
bikes
32:20
or
32:20
on
32:20
the
32:20
bus
32:20
and
32:21
that
32:21
sort
32:21
of
32:21
thing.
32:23
And
32:24
just.
32:24
And
32:24
he
32:24
tells
32:25
us
32:25
not
32:25
to
32:25
be
32:25
tied
32:26
to
32:26
our
32:26
own
32:26
phones
32:27
in
32:27
front
32:27
of
32:27
our
32:27
kids.
32:28
That's
32:28
really
32:28
important.
32:30
One
32:30
phrase
32:31
he
32:31
brings
32:31
up
32:31
a
32:31
lot
32:32
is
32:32
this
32:32
idea
32:32
of
32:32
the
32:33
great
32:33
rewiring.
32:34
So
32:34
this
32:34
is
32:35
that
32:37
suddenly
32:38
our
32:38
brains
32:39
have
32:39
evolved
32:40
towards
32:41
technology,
32:43
particularly
32:43
kids,
32:44
but
32:44
really
32:44
everyone.
32:46
And
32:46
he
32:46
talks
32:47
about
32:47
how
32:47
this
32:47
sort
32:48
of
32:48
like,
32:48
collectively
32:49
brings
32:49
us
32:50
down.
32:50
It
32:51
does,
32:51
yeah.
32:52
You
32:52
know,
32:52
because
32:53
there's
32:53
this
32:53
disembodied
32:55
element
32:56
of
32:56
it
32:56
where
32:57
you
32:57
can
32:57
leave
32:57
a
32:57
comment
32:58
on
32:58
a
32:58
post
32:59
and
32:59
you
32:59
don't
32:59
have
32:59
to
33:00
watch
33:00
someone's
33:00
face
33:00
fall
33:01
if
33:01
you
33:01
say
33:01
something
33:02
cruel
33:02
to
33:02
them.
33:03
You
33:03
know,
33:03
there's
33:04
no
33:04
accountability,
33:06
really.
33:06
Right.
33:07
You
33:07
know,
33:08
and
33:08
I
33:09
think
33:09
that
33:10
is
33:10
terrible.
33:11
I
33:11
think
33:12
you
33:12
really.
33:13
So
33:13
much
33:13
of
33:14
what
33:14
social
33:14
interaction
33:15
is
33:15
are
33:15
these
33:16
small
33:16
things.
33:17
Learning
33:17
to
33:18
listen
33:18
is
33:18
not
33:19
just
33:19
about
33:19
what
33:19
you
33:20
hear,
33:20
but
33:20
about
33:21
other
33:21
things
33:21
that
33:21
you
33:22
observe
33:22
in
33:23
communicating
33:23
with
33:24
people
33:25
and
33:25
missing
33:25
out
33:26
on
33:26
that
33:26
is
33:27
so.
33:29
It's
33:29
just
33:29
like.
33:30
It's
33:30
awful.
33:31
Yeah.
33:31
Yeah.
33:31
And
33:32
it's.
33:32
It
33:33
is.
33:33
I.
33:33
I
33:33
would
33:33
agree
33:34
with
33:34
you.
33:34
And.
33:35
And,
33:36
you
33:36
know,
33:37
it
33:37
is
33:37
tough
33:38
that.
33:38
That
33:39
kids
33:39
can
33:39
be.
33:39
And.
33:40
And.
33:40
And
33:40
adults
33:41
can
33:41
be
33:41
anonymous
33:42
online
33:43
and
33:43
say
33:44
such
33:44
cruel
33:44
things
33:45
to
33:45
each
33:45
other,
33:45
things
33:46
we
33:46
would
33:46
never
33:46
say
33:46
to
33:47
each
33:47
other
33:47
in
33:47
real
33:47
life.
33:49
And,
33:50
you
33:50
know,
33:50
I
33:50
just.
33:52
And
33:52
the
33:52
rewiring,
33:53
I
33:53
think,
33:54
is
33:54
just
33:54
all
33:54
that
33:55
he's
33:55
referring
33:55
to,
33:56
too,
33:56
is
33:56
just
33:56
the
33:56
idea
33:57
that
33:58
with
33:58
kids
33:59
being
33:59
influenced
34:00
so
34:00
much
34:01
by,
34:02
you
34:03
know,
34:03
being
34:03
online
34:04
in
34:04
social
34:05
media,
34:06
where
34:06
they're
34:06
being
34:06
interrupted
34:07
constantly
34:08
and
34:08
where
34:09
it's
34:09
just
34:09
such
34:09
a
34:09
pull
34:10
to
34:10
them
34:12
to
34:12
get
34:12
on,
34:13
you
34:13
know,
34:13
they
34:14
say
34:14
even
34:14
if
34:14
your
34:14
phone.
34:15
You're
34:16
not.
34:16
You
34:16
don't
34:16
have
34:16
your
34:16
phone.
34:17
On
34:17
and
34:17
in
34:17
front
34:17
of
34:18
you.
34:18
If
34:18
it's
34:18
just
34:19
with
34:19
you,
34:20
it's
34:20
pulling
34:20
you
34:21
to
34:21
it,
34:22
and
34:23
it's
34:23
just.
34:23
It's
34:24
like
34:24
it's
34:24
messing
34:25
with
34:25
our
34:25
brain.
34:26
It's
34:26
messing.
34:26
And
34:26
it
34:27
especially
34:27
messes
34:28
with
34:28
a
34:28
child's
34:28
brain,
34:29
and
34:29
they
34:30
are
34:30
not
34:31
ready
34:31
to
34:32
handle
34:32
that.
34:33
And
34:33
so
34:33
that's
34:33
why
34:34
we
34:34
need
34:34
to
34:34
keep
34:35
these
34:35
programs
34:36
out
34:36
of
34:37
children's
34:37
hands.
34:38
And
34:39
it's
34:39
up
34:39
to
34:39
us
34:39
as
34:40
adults
34:40
to
34:41
do
34:41
the
34:41
hard
34:41
thing
34:42
to
34:42
make
34:42
that
34:42
happen.
34:43
Yeah.
34:43
And
34:44
luckily,
34:44
you've
34:45
got
34:45
a
34:45
young
34:45
child.
34:45
I
34:46
know
34:46
it's
34:46
harder
34:46
for
34:47
parents
34:47
with
34:47
older
34:47
kids,
34:48
but
34:50
read
34:50
the
34:50
book
34:50
and
34:51
you'll
34:51
see
34:51
he
34:51
gives
34:52
ideas
34:52
of
34:52
how
34:53
you
34:53
can
34:53
deal
34:54
with
34:54
it
34:54
when
34:54
they
34:55
are
34:55
older.
34:56
If
34:56
you
34:56
have
34:56
to
34:57
step
34:57
in
34:57
and
34:57
start
34:57
to
34:58
set
34:58
some
34:58
boundaries
34:59
because
35:00
it's
35:00
not
35:00
too
35:01
late,
35:01
I
35:01
would
35:01
step
35:02
in.
35:02
If
35:02
I
35:02
had
35:03
an
35:03
older
35:03
child
35:03
right
35:04
now,
35:04
I
35:04
would
35:04
step
35:04
in
35:05
immediately
35:05
and
35:06
make
35:06
some
35:07
changes.
35:07
God
35:08
bless
35:08
to
35:08
you.
35:08
Because
35:08
that's
35:09
not.
35:09
It
35:09
would
35:09
be
35:09
hard.
35:10
No,
35:10
it
35:10
would
35:10
be
35:10
hard.
35:11
Yeah.
35:11
Yeah.
35:12
T.
35:13
There's
35:13
one
35:14
other
35:14
point
35:14
I
35:14
really
35:15
like
35:15
that
35:15
he
35:16
made.
35:16
Oh.
35:16
One
35:16
big
35:16
thing
35:17
he
35:17
mentioned
35:17
that
35:18
he
35:19
is
35:19
a
35:19
suggestion
35:20
for
35:20
everyone
35:21
is
35:22
don't
35:22
keep
35:23
these
35:23
addictive
35:23
apps
35:24
on
35:24
your
35:24
phone.
35:25
Put
35:25
them
35:25
on
35:26
your
35:26
laptop,
35:27
put
35:28
them
35:28
on
35:28
your
35:29
iPad,
35:29
but
35:30
don't
35:30
keep
35:30
them
35:31
with
35:31
you
35:31
in
35:31
your
35:31
pocket.
35:32
Great
35:32
idea.
35:32
Yeah.
35:33
And
35:33
the
35:33
apps
35:33
he's
35:33
talking
35:34
about
35:34
specifically
35:34
are
35:35
Twitter,
35:37
Instagram,
35:38
Tick
35:38
Tock.
35:38
So
35:39
you
35:39
don't
35:39
necessarily
35:40
have
35:40
to
35:40
completely
35:41
get
35:41
off
35:41
of
35:41
these
35:41
things,
35:42
but
35:42
make
35:42
it.
35:43
It
35:43
harder
35:44
for
35:44
yourself.
35:45
Yeah.
35:45
You
35:45
know,
35:45
don't
35:46
use
35:46
it
35:46
as
35:46
a
35:47
tool
35:47
every
35:47
time
35:47
you
35:48
get
35:48
bored
35:49
to
35:49
just
35:50
go
35:50
on
35:50
and
35:50
check
35:51
because
35:51
it
35:51
becomes
35:52
compulsive.
35:52
Right.
35:53
You
35:53
know,
35:53
and
35:54
again,
35:54
these
35:54
are
35:54
opportunities
35:55
for
35:56
interactions
35:57
with
35:57
other
35:57
people.
35:58
Yeah.
35:58
Not
35:58
that
35:59
everybody
35:59
likes
35:59
to
36:00
talk
36:00
to
36:00
people
36:00
in
36:00
line
36:00
at
36:01
a
36:01
grocery
36:01
store
36:02
or
36:02
a
36:02
coffee
36:03
shop,
36:03
but
36:04
I
36:04
don't.
36:05
Know,
36:05
leave
36:05
yourself
36:06
open.
36:06
You
36:06
never
36:07
know
36:07
who
36:07
you'll
36:07
meet.
36:07
That's
36:08
right.
36:08
That's
36:09
right.
36:09
No,
36:09
it
36:10
was.
36:10
It
36:10
was
36:10
an
36:10
excellent
36:11
book,
36:11
I
36:12
would
36:12
say,
36:13
and
36:14
I
36:14
think
36:14
a
36:15
book
36:15
every
36:15
parent
36:16
should
36:16
read.
36:16
Absolutely.
36:19
And
36:19
I
36:19
think
36:19
we're
36:20
gonna
36:20
learn
36:20
more
36:20
and
36:21
more
36:21
about
36:22
how
36:23
smartphones
36:24
and
36:25
some
36:25
of
36:25
these
36:25
apps
36:26
have
36:26
been
36:26
impacting
36:27
children's
36:28
brains.
36:30
You
36:30
know,
36:31
probably
36:31
more
36:31
kids
36:32
are
36:32
gonna
36:32
get
36:32
diagnosed
36:33
with
36:33
adhd,
36:34
because
36:35
I
36:35
feel.
36:35
Like
36:36
this
36:36
creates
36:36
adhd.
36:38
You
36:38
know,
36:38
I
36:38
mean,
36:39
there's
36:39
so
36:39
many
36:39
things.
36:39
ADHD
36:40
is
36:40
such
36:40
a
36:40
complex,
36:41
complex,
36:41
nuanced
36:42
thing.
36:42
Yeah.
36:43
But
36:43
I
36:43
do
36:44
think
36:44
while
36:44
there
36:44
is
36:44
a
36:45
hereditary
36:46
element
36:46
and
36:46
there
36:46
is.
36:47
And
36:47
there
36:47
is.
36:47
I
36:47
think
36:48
also
36:48
it
36:49
can
36:49
be
36:49
brought
36:49
out
36:50
by
36:50
certain
36:50
things.
36:51
Right.
36:51
You
36:51
know,
36:51
and
36:52
this.
36:52
That
36:53
fractured
36:53
attention
36:54
span
36:55
is
36:55
a
36:55
symptom
36:55
of
36:55
adhd,
36:56
but
36:56
it's
36:57
something
36:57
that
36:57
anybody
36:58
can
36:58
experience
36:58
when
36:59
exposed
37:00
to
37:00
the
37:00
wrong.
37:01
Things
37:02
as
37:02
their
37:02
brain
37:03
is
37:03
developing.
37:04
Absolutely.
37:04
Yeah.
37:05
Developing
37:05
brains
37:06
are
37:06
delicate.
37:06
They
37:06
are.
37:07
They're
37:07
easily
37:08
influenced.
37:08
You
37:08
have
37:09
to
37:09
baby
37:09
them.
37:09
You
37:10
have
37:10
to
37:10
baby
37:10
them.
37:10
That's
37:11
right.
37:11
Yeah,
37:11
we
37:11
do.
37:12
I
37:12
am
37:12
going
37:13
to
37:13
be
37:13
moving
37:13
to
37:14
an
37:14
Amish
37:14
community
37:16
when
37:16
my
37:16
child
37:17
turns
37:17
8
37:18
so
37:18
that
37:18
I
37:19
can
37:19
avoid
37:19
all
37:20
of
37:20
this.
37:20
I'll
37:20
come
37:20
visit.
37:21
Thank
37:21
you.
37:22
You
37:22
are
37:23
welcome
37:23
to.
37:23
Although
37:24
I
37:24
won't
37:24
be
37:24
able
37:24
to
37:24
communicate
37:25
with
37:25
you
37:25
because
37:25
I
37:25
will
37:26
not
37:26
have
37:26
a
37:26
phone.
37:26
Oh,
37:26
dear.
37:27
And
37:28
she
37:28
will
37:28
learn
37:28
to
37:28
churn
37:29
butter.
37:29
Okay.
37:30
And
37:31
she
37:31
will
37:31
learn
37:32
vocational
37:32
skills.
37:33
Good.
37:34
Yes.
37:34
That'll
37:35
be
37:35
the
37:35
ultimate
37:36
in
37:36
person
37:37
experience.
37:37
She'll
37:37
become
37:38
an
37:38
electrician.
37:39
That's
37:39
fine.
37:40
That's
37:40
great.
37:40
I'll
37:40
still
37:41
be.
37:41
I'll
37:41
be
37:41
proud
37:41
of
37:41
her
37:42
no
37:42
matter
37:42
what
37:42
she
37:42
does.
37:42
It's
37:43
fine.
37:43
I'll
37:43
let
37:43
her
37:44
know.
37:44
Okay.
37:44
I'll
37:45
let
37:45
her
37:45
know.
37:45
Anyway,
37:46
we
37:46
recommend
37:47
the
37:47
book.
37:47
Would
37:47
you
37:47
say
37:48
you
37:48
recommend
37:48
the
37:48
book?
37:48
I
37:48
would
37:49
say
37:49
I
37:49
recommend
37:49
it.
37:49
I
37:50
was
37:50
surprised
37:51
by
37:51
a
37:51
lot
37:51
of
37:51
it.
37:52
It
37:52
wasn't
37:52
what
37:52
I
37:53
expected
37:53
it
37:53
to
37:53
be,
37:53
but
37:54
I
37:55
am
37:55
terrified,
37:56
and
37:58
I
37:58
will
37:58
probably
37:59
be
37:59
throwing
37:59
my
37:59
phone
38:00
out
38:00
the
38:00
window.
38:01
On
38:01
that
38:02
note,
38:02
thank
38:02
you
38:02
so
38:02
much
38:03
for
38:03
joining
38:03
us
38:03
for
38:04
this
38:04
episode
38:04
of
38:04
Other
38:04
People's
38:05
Parenting.
38:05
Please
38:06
join
38:06
us
38:06
again
38:06
next
38:07
week.