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Cancer may be starting long before diagnosis · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Today we're speaking to Nutrition First Health Advocate and second generation natural health educator, Ryan Richardson.
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  Ryan, welcome to the 10penny files.
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  Thank you for joining joining me.
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  You know, I know your father well, so it's a pleasure to get to know you a little bit.
• 3:22
  Yeah, thank you, Doctor.
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  Uh, this is such an honor to be here.
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  I my father has said so many good things about you, and I've met you a couple of times, but this is the first time that we get to sit down and really get to know one another.
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  So I'm I'm looking forward to it, and I feel incredibly honored to be here.
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  Well, thanks for joining me.
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  And I have a you know, off the cuff sort of question to start with.
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  Um, you know, you put nutrition first in all of your protocols of when you when you deal with um, you know, clients.
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  What is your opinion of the new food pyramid put together put out by HHS and RFK Jr.
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  I think it's an amazing step in the right direction.
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  I think uh obviously I'm not a doctor.
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  My my grandfather was a doctor, my father's not a doctor, but an educator, as you alluded to.
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  And I went to school to be a doctor.
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  I actually finished three and a half years of pre-medicine.
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  Uh I thought I was going to be a doctor my whole life.
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  I wanted to follow in my grandfather's footsteps.
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  So I understand uh uh, you know, more maybe than the average Joe, but I'm still not a doctor, but I understand that our food our food pyramid was completely jacked up uh this that entire time.
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  And now we're finally starting to move in the right direction of what's actually healthy for the human body.
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  And it's kind of funny because every all of our grandparents' generations and every generation before them, they all knew the importance of real whole food and diet and taking care of your body.
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  But for some reason, that's been lost in the last 50 to 100 years.
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  And so we got to really fight to bring bring back that education, or or we'll continue seeing a lot of these issues that we are seeing now.
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  I love what Secretary said when Secretary Kennedy said when he released the new food pyramid when he said that that was one of his first objectives when he when he took on the role, and that the Biden administration was gonna uh release something that was 60 pages long, and he started looking at it and he said, I got it down to less than six pages.
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  He said, But seriously, I can boil it down to three words.
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  Eat real food.
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  I loved that as well.
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  And and and I love I love uh Mr.
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  Kennedy, he is doing such an amazing job.
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  And I think um a lot there are people will get down on him sometimes because it's not moving as fast as they want.
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  But I have full faith that he has our best interests at heart, and that's hard to say that about somebody in the government, obviously.
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  Uh, but he has been doing this for and beating this drum for so long.
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  And it really is as simple as that.
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  Just re eat real food.
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  Let's get back to real food, not this ultra-highly processed food that maybe it's good to feed millions of people, but it's not good for their health.
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  Absolutely.
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  You know, um, I I just somebody I heard either I read this the other day or somebody said this to me when like what you alluded to, that things aren't moving as quickly as we want, because we've been in this battle for a long time.
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  And so we see what needs to be done.
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  But but and I've known Bobby for probably close to 20 years.
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  And so the leopards don't change their spots.
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  He believes in what we believe in.
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  He's doing what he can do, given the constraints that he's working under.
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  And he's really moved from being an activist into being a politician and being a politician, the rules of the game change.
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  And every single he has to, before he actually puts the full weight of that step down, he has to figure out if he's stepping onto somebody's landmine, you know, what they're trying to help him with.
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  So I just still encourage everybody to keep um keep the faith.
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  Uh, keep praying for his safety and for his ability to continue to do the work.
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  And I'm glad that at least he's moved.
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  He's moving the he's moved the ball forward in two years than what anybody else has done in the last 20.
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  Uh what would it look like if if he wasn't there right now?
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  We would be so far in the opposite direction that I don't even want to think about it.
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  It's scary to think about.
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  It really is.
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  Well, you know, you have a long history too of growing up in a health-related family.
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  Uh, what does what does health mean to you, given that you grew up in a multi-generational family that not only took health seriously, but took health in a different direction and took a lot of heat for it.
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  What does that mean to you?
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  Yeah, it's it's funny.
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  Well, you know, from a young age, what it meant to me was being able to perform at the best of my ability in my sports.
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  I grew up an athlete.
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  I loved I played every sport that you can imagine.
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  And so I understood that if I wasn't fueling my body correctly, it would show up in my performance.
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  It would show up in in class.
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  It would show, and it was made very apparent to me from a young.
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  Oh, well, what did you eat last night?
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  Oh, you had the you had the sugary cereal for dinner last night, huh?
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  Right.
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  Okay, well, this is how it made you feel the next day.
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  So maybe that wasn't the best choice of foods, right?
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  It was always a you do this, and and it's not that you know bad boy for eating snacks later.
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  It's this is your consequence, right?
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  You feel you don't feel great the next day.
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  So my dad and my mother, they did a really good job of raising me to kind of make my decisions for my own, but showing me that my decisions had effects.
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  And obviously being in that in the uh nutritional world and my father all always knowing about apricot seeds and B17 and all the other things that he loves to promote.
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  It was always front and center.
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  And it was always like, okay, well, when I'm not feeding my body correctly, I get sick just like everybody else.
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  I miss school or I'll miss a game.
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  And so I never like to do that.
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  I prided myself in being able to show up and be healthy.
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  So it became like almost a personality trait, like, oh, I haven't been sick in six years.
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  I haven't missed a day of class.
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  I haven't missed a practice.
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  But as you get older and you start seeing your friends fall apart, and you tell, you know, you try to help them and say, hey, you know, hey, maybe you should try doing this thing.
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  And it's like, oh no, you know, my doctor told me uh that I'm good, I just need to take these antibiotics.
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  And then, you know, six months later they have another issue that they're taking another drug for.
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  And so I got to see firsthand that I don't most people's families don't think like mine.
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  You know, when I had a headache, it was hey, go chug some water.
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  See how see how water is going to help you, you're right.
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  We're at your friend's house, they take a uh, you know, a futilinol or some Advil at any sign of any type of of uh side, you know, like headache or ache in your body.
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  And that was us to for me.
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  It was the opposite.
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  It's let's see if we can use what we have around us, what God gave us, found in nature to cure our ailments first.
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  And if we can't fix it, then go to the doctor and see if the doctor can help you decipher what it is.
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  Whereas I think uh, you know, to most people, it's oh, I have a symptom, let's go to the doctor and get that checked out.
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  And so I think it's mostly backwards, backwards thinking from what how I grew up, if that makes sense.
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  Now you grew up in a pretty big family, right?
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  Yeah, yes.
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  I'm the oldest of uh six, and then my father when my mother passed away, my father remarried and he remarried into uh a family that already had six children.
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  So I'm you know, technically the oldest of 12, uh, and but half by blood, but I still consider them, you know, the other ones very much my family.
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  And do your siblings have the same outlook on health and eating well and nutrition as you have.
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  I would say uh what you know, they're much younger than I am.
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  And I I would say that it's probably similar to what I had at that age, right?
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  When you're young, you feel invincible.
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  And while you do know uh, you know, what's right for you, you won't you don't always make the right decisions, right?
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  And I there were times where I would stay at my friends' houses and eat candy literally all night, you know, at 14 years old.
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  And and uh, but when you're young, you you don't really have that forward thinking.
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  And I would say my family is my the children are much like that, right?
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  They they probably know what's best for them and they understand nutrition, and uh especially my my father who the woman he remarried, she's allergic to sugar.
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  So they cook uh without sugar in their house at all, and they are very, very healthy.
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  And I think I'm sure that they know uh that it's because of the way that they eat, and it's been reiterated.
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  So uh, but with me being so much older than them, if it it I finally understand what it means to like not understand what this younger generation is kind of what they're thinking at the time, and their jokes are far different than when I was a child, you know, it was only 20 short years ago, but times move very fast.
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  So I'd say as a whole, yes, they're all incredibly healthy.
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  My uh my younger sister is in uh is that uh northern Arizona University, and she wants to be a nurse uh and and uh phlebotomist of sorts, she wants to be able to give people IVs if they again.
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  So a lot of them are kind of hovering around this natural health space instinctively, and I'm really excited what they you know, what they decide to do.
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  But then we have another one of our uh uh siblings that wants to be an architect.
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  So, you know, everybody's a little different, but as long as uh they're taking care of their bodies, you know, and and that's all that we care about really.
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  Do you have a specific food or habit routine that you keep up with for yourself that you believe would be beneficial to everybody if they followed something like that?
• 12:58
  Yeah, you know, that there's so many of these little uh little tips and and hacks that I've been learning about.
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  But the first one that comes to mind is I've read, and maybe Doctor, you've read something similar, that around 90% of Americans are deficient in vitamin D.
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  And so one thing that I've been doing in my personal life is going out outside on a walk uh and just getting my face in the sun for 20 minutes, 30 minutes and Arizona.
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  Sometimes it gets incredibly hot out here, and I don't even want to go outside during the day.
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  So I try to get up early and get some sun on my face, and that just small change has been has been hugely impactful in my life.
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  And so you I start to think, you know, of all of these vitamin deficiencies.
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  So you got vitamin D, right?
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  The the serious end of that is rickets, or let's say you're deficient in vitamin C, uh, the serious end of that is scurvy, right?
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  But what else is happening happening to your body along the way that's not scurvy or rickets, right?
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  What else, if you're just half uh deficient in this vitamin, there's still bad, really bad things that are happening to you.
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  And so I think looking at health through the deficiency lens, because a hundred years ago, all of these vitamins were found in our food, right?
• 14:14
  Vitamins, well, vitamin D, not so much, but a hundred years ago, people were outside way more often than they are nowadays.
• 14:21
  They're not, you know, they're not, they weren't stuck on computers, but we need to look at what our bodies are missing that it had 100 years ago, and we need to figure out ways to get those supplements and vitamins back into our bodies.
• 14:36
  I think that that's really really smart, you know, and we know that there's just some core basic things that are really important, like your body needs to move, you need to get water, you need to get good sleep, uh, you need to eat real food, you know.
• 14:51
  I've been reading uh uh a couple of additional books for some of the interviews that I've got coming up.
• 14:55
  And there's uh one book that I'm reading that's about fasting.
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  How do you feel about that?
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  Yeah, it's funny because I um I've never been a big breakfast eater.
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  I I allude to sports and stuff, and I used to force to force myself on mornings that I knew I had big games or football games and stuff like that.
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  But I um around 12, 15 years ago, or 12 or 13 years ago, excuse me, I had a uh a buddy who free fed his dog, and he just left his uh you know food out for his dog at any time of the day, and didn't matter when, and the dog was very incredibly active.
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  They went on two hikes a day, and the dog only ate at like 4 p.m.
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  And it had had food year round.
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  He goes, huh, for whatever reason, he doesn't seem to need breakfast that much.
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  And I was like, you know what, maybe I should stop forcing myself to eat breakfast.
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  And so for about 10 years of my life, I accidentally, I called it, did intermittent fasting because I just would skip breakfast, and then maybe I would have a light, very light lunch or a granola bar or whatever that meant.
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  And then I would have a really big dinner.
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  And the you know, obviously, all of this research has come out about fasting now and the benefits of it.
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  And if you think back, if you think about it, you know, hundreds of years ago when we were hunters and gatherers, you didn't just have food everywhere plentiful, no matter when you want it, like we have now.
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  You couldn't just go to a grocery store and just have food sitting there that you could eat.
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  So, you know, intermittent fasting was almost a way of our life back in the day because we had to hunt and and gather, then cook it, and then we all shared it together.
• 16:34
  So it makes sense from like a biological standpoint, and I know it works for me, but I I also understand that everybody's different.
• 16:41
  So what about the principle of that they say you should eat like a king at breakfast, a prince at lunch, and a pauper at dinner, that your briggest meal of the day should be in the morning to get you all primed up for the day, and that you shouldn't eat so heavy at in the evening, because it sounds like you're doing just the opposite.
• 16:59
  I'm doing the opposite, and and I like as I said, it started just instinctively for me and what was feeling right for my body.
• 17:08
  And you know, I've done the research on what we you know, quote unquote big breakfast, pushed, you know, about 80 or 70 years ago, I don't remember when it was, when they started saying breakfast is the most important meal of the day, because really nobody was eating breakfast because naturally it's probably or at least not huge breakfasts, right?
• 17:27
  And so I've I've read stories and I don't know that much about it.
• 17:31
  I don't claim to be an expert about it.
• 17:33
  I've read that you know that was a big push, but it really isn't the most important meal of the day.
• 17:39
  And I've heard from several people that are much smarter than I that uh, you know, everybody is different.
• 17:45
  There may be somebody that it is that important for, but as a whole, it's just not that uh not that true.
• 17:52
  Now, and I'm happy to be wrong if you have more information about that.
• 17:56
  Well, I just know that you know they say that you shouldn't eat past six or seven o'clock in the evening and you shouldn't eat big meals because uh then it just turns into fat overnight because you're not burning those calories that you just all took in.
• 18:08
  But I do believe that, you know, people have always asked me for all the years that I've had, you know, been in practice, you know.
• 18:13
  I'm I've not seen I'm retired from direct patient care now, but in the days when I was seeing patients, people would always say, So what diet should I eat, or how should I eat?
• 18:23
  And and so I had at one point, this was quite a few years ago.
• 18:26
  I had a gal that was working for me, and I had her do a little project for me.
• 18:30
  I said, I want you to go out to the internet and go to Amazon.
• 18:34
  And this is before Amazon was as big as it is now.
• 18:36
  So just to put that in context, to go to Amazon, go to Barnes and Noble online, go to you know, any place where you can find books, and look, and I said, I want you to make me a list of all the different books and all the different diets that are out there.
• 18:51
  And Ryan, she stopped at 1200.
• 18:54
  Yeah, there's thousands, right?
• 18:56
  Tens of thousands has to be.
• 18:57
  Well, there's was at least 1200 that I said, okay.
• 19:00
  Yeah, yeah.
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  Is that you know, they can all work as long as you adhere to them.
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  And you have to find the ones that kind of works the best for you.
• 19:10
  And uh, you know, low inflammatory and keeping out the bad stuff, like you know, seed oils and um, you know, all that's it, all that sort of stuff.
• 19:18
  People tend to be sensitive to gluten and dairy.
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  So I think they need to do that.
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  So what are you what is your practice kind of look like, Ryan?
• 19:26
  What do you do?
• 19:27
  What's a day in a life with uh with with Ryan look like?
• 19:30
  Well, I I do love that how you just pointed out how there's all of these different things and and any of them can work because I've always said that too to my friends.
• 19:41
  It's like you have to just it's the one that works is what you're gonna be consistent with, really, right?
• 19:46
  And and when you start getting consistent, whether that be exercising too, get consistent exercise, or maybe maybe that means you start giving yourself consistent sleep.
• 19:56
  Anytime you do something consistently, good things will happen.
• 20:00
  And so uh I I have that same uh same attitude towards people will be like Ryan, what's the best way to take B17?
• 20:07
  You have the apricot seeds, you have the supplements, you have the seed meal, and I always say the same thing, whatever you're gonna be the most consistent with.
• 20:15
  But if uh day in the life of Ryan is that I uh I got a dog about a year and a half ago with my fiance, and his name's Lentil, and lentils have B17 in it, just like apricot seeds do.
• 20:28
  So funnily enough, uh, but it my morning starts every single day as soon as the sun comes up and peeks through the blinds.
• 20:36
  Lentil is on my chest, and he's ready to go on his morning walk.
• 20:40
  So we wake up with the sun and we go out and do about an hour walk every morning, and I just it's just me, him, the birds chirping and the sun rising, and it's a reflection time for me, almost like a meditation time for me.
• 20:53
  And I run Richardson Nutritional Center now.
• 20:56
  And if you I know you've met my dad, he's a he's a bit of a you know, chaotic, uh, frantic guy because just because there's so much that needs to get done.
• 21:04
  And so if you let it, the stress can chew you up and eat you and spit you out.
• 21:09
  And stress, I believe, is the number one killer.
• 21:12
  Everybody's stressed and and for good reason, right?
• 21:15
  We live in a stressful world.
• 21:16
  We live in a world where we have the uh all of the world's information out in our pocket.
• 21:21
  It's it's kind of it's a little crazy.
• 21:23
  So you have to be very intentional about your reflection time, your de-stress time, and and and make sure you're you're loving yourself enough to say, hey, I, you know, this is my time in the morning, whatever it is, a half hour, hour, and I'm gonna spend it, you know, uh decompressing, spending time with God, whatever that looks like to you.
• 21:45
  Starts like that, then you know, I take my shower, get into the office.
• 21:49
  We do we start our day, our our uh morning, every morning, our RNC day with a prayer meeting.
• 21:55
  So if anybody has anything that they want to pray about, obviously after that, we do a little bit of business, maybe five, 10 minutes.
• 22:01
  If anybody in the company needs a little help, then we move on to our day.
• 22:05
  And what that day usually looks like is just running the day-to-day operations, making sure stuff is in stock, making sure our content that's getting out there and we're our customer service, our people getting questions asked.
• 22:16
  But I've I've just started recently in uh January was the first time I I was on a podcast.
• 22:23
  I never wanted to be the podcast guy or get out there.
• 22:26
  I don't really like the attention, but I realized this is nothing to do with attention and this is nothing to do about me.
• 22:33
  I'm here to be a mouthpiece for the story and and and hopefully help somebody else.
• 22:38
  And so my father's gone out, he tells everybody about my grandpa and what this amazing vitamin can do for you if maybe you're dealing with some afflictions or some ailments.
• 22:49
  And I realize that we're doing a huge disservice to people because we're not getting out there and educating people that are already healthy.
• 22:56
  And my grandfather was very famous for saying, well, he didn't coin this, but he would say it a lot.
• 23:01
  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
• 23:04
  And he would have much rather that he never sees any any of these patients come across him at all.
• 23:09
  And instead, he got ahead of it five years prior to them seeing him and said, hey, get these nutrition nutrients into your body, and you're not gonna have to worry about these nasty metabolic deficiency diseases.
• 23:20
  And so that was kind of my calling.
• 23:22
  I said, you know what?
• 23:23
  I'm gonna get out there.
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  I'm a healthy guy.
• 23:26
  I'm young.
• 23:27
  I have friends that are young and feel bulletproof.
• 23:31
  And I need to make sure that I'm educating them because I don't want to have anybody coming to me and saying, you know what, Ryan, why didn't you my good friend?
• 23:39
  And you couldn't sit me down and shake me and say, hey, you're missing this, you know, you didn't care about me.
• 23:45
  And I don't want anybody to ever be able to say that because I care about everybody, even the people I've never met yet.
• 23:51
  And I want to, and I know that everybody doesn't matter what you believe in, who you pray to, what who you voted for, we all deserve to be healthy.
• 24:00
  Yeah, that's very, very true.
• 24:02
  And it's and I like your idea that you know, starting with uh learning how to do it the right way when you're in your 30s, because if you don't start until you're in your 50s, you've got 20 years of mistakes that you have to account for.
• 24:17
  And I believe also with what you said is true about that, you know, it all of us, you know, when you're in your 30s, you just feel like it's invincible, that sickness stuff is gonna happen later.
• 24:27
  But we're seeing cancers and hypertension and morbid obesity uh come at a younger and younger age.
• 24:34
  That's really really important to take on that mission to really, really help the the young millennials and even the the Zen Gs or the generation the generation Zs because they have a lot of issues with with what they think the future's gonna look like.
• 24:50
  And if we can start with helping them with their health, I think that that's really amazing.
• 24:54
  I think so too.
• 24:55
  And I think I think we we can fight back and it's it's gonna start with education though, and making sure, and that's an RFK.
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  I when I grew up, we were cooking as a family, but it's a lost art now.
• 25:17
  I'm guilty of it too, right?
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  It's so convenient to go grab something on the way home.
• 25:21
  But we we we've went in losing cooking, we've also lost uh the nutrition aspect about it.
• 25:28
  We stopped thinking about what's going into our dishes.
• 25:31
  And so he's even thinking about well, we're gonna have to get people to go around the country and start retraining people how to cook.
• 25:38
  And cooking is almost a spiritual thing, right?
• 25:41
  It's it's uh all it's all stuff that came from that God uh provided us, and then you're doing it with your family, and then you're all saying grace and and you're spending time, and that's another thing that I think people don't talk about enough is the social aspect.
• 25:56
  You know, with what happened with COVID, they they locked us up and they got us on Zoom calls, and now it's a bit more of a normal part of life.
• 26:05
  But there are a lot of people that have been left behind socially because of that, and because people are afraid now and they're afraid of germs and and it's really broken people.
• 26:15
  We are social creatures, we're meant to be talking to each other, we're meant to fraternize and and and share stories and hey, what's working for you guys?
• 26:24
  And you know, my kid has this or what that's what we're meant to be doing, and that's how we've always been as a species.
• 26:29
  And if we don't get back to that, we're gonna continue to see these really bad mental health issues.
• 26:34
  And back to your point with our youth that are sicker than than ever, it's not because our youth are lazy.
• 26:40
  It's not because they want to be sick or their parents don't care about their health.
• 26:44
  It's not that at all.
• 26:45
  It's our food system that's been poisoning them.
• 26:47
  Absolutely.
• 26:48
  Absolutely.
• 26:49
  It's so true.
• 26:50
  You know, I've said for most of my adult life that one of the ruinations of the American family was the dishwasher.
• 26:58
  Because I was growing up, you know, that we would, you know, we would stand around and mom would wash the dishes and I'd dry the dishes and put them away.
• 27:05
  And it was during that time, it was like the the one-on-one time with my mother to talk about, you know, what was happening with the mean girls at school or happening with you know your social life or this boyfriend you thought was kind of cute or whatever.
• 27:19
  And now we don't do that anymore.
• 27:20
  And I think that that was that technology really was invasive into the family structure.
• 27:25
  And that's a thing that people don't really talk about either.
• 27:28
  Yeah, you're you're 100% right.
• 27:30
  And I'm even seeing that a lot of schools now are just are banning phones during the day.
• 27:35
  And you know, I've I saw Rich, you mostly it's like a month later that these articles are written.
• 27:41
  And so everybody talks about the kids, they're pissed.
• 27:43
  The first two weeks, they're like, they can't imagine life without their phones.
• 27:47
  And then a month later, you you look in the cafeteria, they're all talking.
• 27:51
  They're all hanging out, they're throwing paper balls at each other, they're being kids again, and now they can't even imagine have bringing their phone to school anymore.
• 28:00
  How beautiful is that.
• 28:01
  And I think more schools need to adopt that, and more families need to say, you know what, you can use the phone uh, you know, from two to three, but the rest of the time, it's family, whatever it is, right?
• 28:12
  Any I've I've always been a proponent of really anything in moderation, right?
• 28:17
  If you're gonna go take your kids for a pizza night, okay, do that once a month, right?
• 28:21
  Go to pizza, but just do it in moderation.
• 28:24
  And the same with the phone or same with technology.
• 28:27
  Let's make sure that we're moderating everything.
• 28:29
  Otherwise, you get too far whack out of whack into one thing and it ruins all these other areas in your life.
• 28:35
  Absolutely.
• 28:36
  And that's a really good thought.
• 28:38
  Hold that thought right there, Ryan.
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  Well, welcome back, everyone.
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  Let me tell you a little bit today about the uh conversation we're having with second generation, actually third generation, because it's actually started with his grandfather, health educator Ryan Richardson.
• 35:21
  Ryan was raised in a family shaped by prevention first values.
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  His grandfather, Dr.
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• 35:53
  Ryan, welcome back to the show.
• 35:55
  Thanks for being on the 10penny files with me here today.
• 35:58
  Thank you.
• 35:58
  I'm so happy to be here, and I've enjoyed our conversation thus far.
• 36:02
  Well, let's talk a little bit about B17 and uh the apricot seeds and the big thing that your family's involved with with the uh Richardson Nutritional Center.
• 36:13
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 36:14
  I I can start just very briefly from the top.
• 36:17
  My grandfather was an ear nose and throat specialist.
• 36:20
  He had a practice for around 15 years in the Bay Area.
• 36:23
  He actually had two practices.
• 36:25
  He was very successful.
• 36:27
  Uh they my father lived in a beautiful home in Moraga, California.
• 36:32
  And um, you know, just like any other doctor, he was going about his life, and 15 years in, he's he would get some maybe 10, 15, 20 percent of his patients would come in and in their ear, nose, or throat, they would have some sort of cancer.
• 36:45
  And so he would he did what any doctor did at that time, and you send it to the local radiate radiation uh specialist or surgery or chemo specialist.
• 36:55
  And uh the story actually starts with a family cat who had uh, you know, 14 years old, his name was Spooky, and it had a tumors all over its body.
• 37:03
  And so he took it to the vet.
• 37:04
  My grandfather did, and they said it's gonna be about 2500.
• 37:08
  And this time it was early 70s, which is, you know, wasn't about the money so much as what they said that the cat will have about a 15% chance to live.
• 37:17
  And so he goes, okay, wow, how barbaric.
• 37:19
  I'm gonna spend all this money so that poor spooky can get chopped up and then maybe still die.
• 37:25
  And so he had he was a researcher.
• 37:27
  He had remembered reading in the newspaper about this doctor named Dr.
• 37:31
  Krebs from the Bay Area that was doing some research on uh something called Laotrell, AKA B17, AK amygdalene and lab mice.
• 37:39
  So my grandfather just he got in his car and he drove over 45 minutes to see Dr.
• 37:43
  Krebs for the first time and explained to him, hey, I have this cat.
• 37:47
  Do you think what you have will help him?
• 37:49
  And he said, put this in in the food.
• 37:51
  They hung out for like two or three hours, and they just nerded out over their doctor's stuff and you know, asking all these questions.
• 37:57
  And he said, put this in spooky's food every night for three and for four weeks, and then let's see what happens.
• 38:03
  Four weeks later, spooky all of tumor spookies were gone, cancer free, and lived three more healthy years later.
• 38:10
  And so that kind of shook my grandfather too.
• 38:13
  Square's like, whoa, and you know, several months go by after this happened.
• 38:17
  He's telling people about it, sometimes his nurses, but he just kind of, you know, he started researching you more.
• 38:23
  He's like, man, that was pretty amazing.
• 38:25
  But uh his nurse said, Hey, Doc, they're trying to amputate my sister's arm.
• 38:31
  She has cancer in your arm.
• 38:32
  I I know about spooky.
• 38:33
  Will you please try this on my sister?
• 38:36
  And my grandfather, he writes in his book that he knew it was a pretty big deal at the time when she asked him to do this, but he didn't know how big of a deal.
• 38:45
  And he decided after praying on it that night that uh, according to his Hippocratic oath, he is going to do what he can to save this woman.
• 38:53
  That's just what he's gonna do.
• 38:55
  And so he started treatment on her.
• 38:58
  Months, several a couple months go by.
• 39:00
  She goes back to the hospital that wanted to amputate her arm, and she was cancer free.
• 39:05
  Unbelievable, cancer free.
• 39:07
  And uh, she came back to my grandfather and said, Dr.
• 39:11
  John, they want they still want to amputate my arm.
• 39:14
  They said it can come back.
• 39:15
  And that's you know, we don't want it to come back.
• 39:17
  If it comes back, it can come back harder, it'll spread faster.
• 39:21
  We need to get ahead of this, and you need to amputate your arm anyway.
• 39:24
  Well, she did not amputate her arm.
• 39:26
  And uh my grandfather writes about a uh a pretty pivotal moment in his life where a year later, they're at a wedding.
• 39:33
  I think it was uh my my aunt's wedding, and she comes up to my grandpa and grabs them with both her arms.
• 39:41
  And he said that you know, that was a huge moment in his life, and he accidentally became a cancer clinic from that this kind of story.
• 39:51
  Lines out the door, word of mouth traveled fast.
• 39:54
  People that had stage three and stage four were and and had gone through years of chemo therapy.
• 40:00
  Therapy.
• 40:00
  So these are people on death's door were coming to him.
• 40:04
  And I want people to understand it's not a silver bullet.
• 40:07
  Sometimes your body has been beaten down so bad that nothing is going to save you.
• 40:13
  But he was still saving some of these people.
• 40:15
  And so word traveled extremely fast.
• 40:18
  But word also traveled fast through the medical establishment.
• 40:21
  And the FDA came knocking and said, hey, Dr.
• 40:24
  John, you can't do this.
• 40:26
  There's only three approved ways to treat cancer in this country right now.
• 40:31
  And that's chemo, radiation, and surgery.
• 40:34
  And that was 60 years ago, 50 years ago.
• 40:36
  And that's still true today.
• 40:38
  How is that possible?
• 40:39
  That you know, our rates just keep rising.
• 40:42
  And uh yet our nine of it, nothing's getting better as far as our treatment goes.
• 40:48
  There's a doctor that I admire heavily, his name is Dr.
• 40:51
  Seafried from uh Boston College, and he says that it that the chemo radiation and and surgery is medieval and barbaric ways to treat people with cancer.
• 41:03
  He talks about how metabolic and nutritional therapy, like my grandfather was promoting, is the is the type of treatment that you give to a healthy person and to a sick person.
• 41:13
  So would you want that treatment?
• 41:14
  Or because you don't see healthy kids like or healthy guys like our girls lining up at the local chemo uh center because I want to I want to make sure I don't get cancer, right?
• 41:25
  How about we treat it as this and it's a little different once you get it?
• 41:28
  You it becomes a lot more precise.
• 41:31
  But to make a very long story short, they drug my grandfather through heck and back.
• 41:36
  They sued the federal government sued him four times.
• 41:39
  He won all four times.
• 41:42
  As you can imagine, it was very stressful for him, stressful for his family.
• 41:48
  It was incredibly expensive.
• 41:50
  And after the fourth time, the California medical uh board stripped him of his medical license.
• 41:56
  A well respected physician, they labeled him a quack.
• 42:00
  They they said that he was just a guy that was preying on people that had no other answers.
• 42:05
  But in reality, if he would have just shut up and got and conformed like they wanted him to, he would have made so much more money.
• 42:12
  He was his he would probably still be alive today, to be honest with you.
• 42:16
  I think the stress of all of this killed them all or killed him because he they destroyed his name and his whole legacy.
• 42:23
  They forced him to move to Nevada, where he he moved and he opened up a natural health clinic for three years before he passed away, named Richardson Nutritional Center.
• 42:32
  And so when we started this back up, it was obviously an ode to my grandfather.
• 42:37
  My father uh is not a doctor, but he grew up around this, and he went to chiropractor school and he has a deep interest in nutrition, and he wanted to be a supplier for anybody that uh you know did their own research and was just looking for this natural vitamin that's found in over 1200 different foods, right?
• 42:56
  By the way, this it's it's the highest concentration is found in an apricot seed, but it's found in spinach, it's found in watercress, it's found in lentils, it's found in lima beans.
• 43:05
  So a hundred years ago, uh this was just found in our diet between two and 400 milligrams in the beef we ate, in the bread we ate.
• 43:13
  But since all of our food has been stripped of its nutrients, B17 is one of the biggest culprits, and it's a huge reason why I believe we're starting to see such a massive rise in the C word.
• 43:24
  But you look at other countries, let's say uh Mexico, for example, they eat a lot of beans.
• 43:29
  Beans are notorious for having high amounts of B17 in them.
• 43:33
  They see far less rates of cancer than we do in America.
• 43:36
  Why are we not asking why?
• 43:40
  Well, that's the ultimate question, isn't it?
• 43:42
  You know, why why is it that uh that people that eat those kinds of foods?
• 43:47
  It's eat real food, and the eat real food has a whole cadre of all the nutrients that God provided for us to begin with to take care of our bodies.
• 43:56
  Um, what do you what do you you you know, over the years you've changed the uh nutritional uh abilities?
• 44:04
  I mean, because apricot seeds themselves, when you chew them, are pretty bitter, but they come in, but you've made them into different forms now.
• 44:10
  What are they?
• 44:11
  Yeah, so that's an amazing point.
• 44:14
  We really we recognize that it's a bitter flavor and B17, most B17 foods are bitter naturally.
• 44:21
  So Brussels sprouts are another example.
• 44:23
  There are I'd go to a restaurant sometimes and I'll see a Brussels sprout salad that and it's a raw Brussels sprout and it's bitter and it has B17 in it.
• 44:31
  Most of the times when we see Brussels sprouts, it's cooked heavily, and and most of that vitamin is killed under heat.
• 44:38
  And so it's about eating raw foods.
• 44:41
  And I and I I think I went off a little tangent.
• 44:44
  What was the question again?
• 44:45
  I want to make sure I tie it back in.
• 44:47
  You now have different forms of the we recognize that the bitter flavor is a deterrent for some people.
• 44:55
  So we had to get pretty creative about the other types of ways that we can modalities because the first and foremost, it's very versatile.
• 45:04
  Uh there when you're really ill, we have doc we know doctors that use it intravenously.
• 45:10
  We had we know doctors that use it uh orally or topically.
• 45:13
  Um, but what we have the other ways we have, we have it in its in normal seed form.
• 45:19
  We have it in a form where we crush up the seed, and then people have a spoon, they put it, you know, scooper, they put it in their oatmeal, their protein shakes, their smoothies, their yogurt, whatever that their salads, then we have it in supplement form.
• 45:32
  So maybe you just want to bypass the bitter flavor altogether.
• 45:35
  So you just take a supplement, there, you know, vegetable capsules, and I just take it with some water every single morning.
• 45:41
  Uh, then we have a chocolate, a dark chocolate bar with no added sugar that we're uh we we usually have available that when it's not in the summer months, but now we're bringing it in cold packaged.
• 45:52
  So if you want to uh figure out, you know, if you want it to get it through dark chocolate, we could do it that way.
• 45:57
  Last other form of modality we have is the VitaRocks, and it's a popping rock candy for children or for adults.
• 46:05
  We have a lot of adults that love them too.
• 46:06
  And you get your daily dose of vitamin B17 through this popping rock candy, but there's no added sugar, there's no garbage in it.
• 46:15
  Uh, it's all sweetened naturally, and uh we have so many stories about uh kids that get angry at their mother or father when they don't include the the they call them the pop pock pop pop uh rocks into their into their lunches.
• 46:29
  That's interesting.
• 46:30
  That's really really interesting.
• 46:32
  Well, what would you advise parents and or grandparents to do to prepare their health their family's health?
• 46:39
  And is the apricot seeds?
• 46:40
  Is that something you should just take every day preventatively?
• 46:43
  And so is that something that parents and grandparents should start to incorporate into the daily meals of their kids and grandkids?
• 46:52
  Yeah, uh 100%.
• 46:54
  And what I like to tell people is it doesn't even have to be all through apricot seeds, right?
• 46:59
  As I listed 1200 different, or there's listed 1200 different edible foods out there that contain the same vitamin, and you can Google it and look at it.
• 47:08
  And maybe maybe you get you guys decide to do a great meal that's that's filled with this, and so you skip the apricot seeds that day.
• 47:16
  Or uh, but but one thing that's always stuck with me uh for my whole life as a an author named uh G.
• 47:23
  Edward Griffin, who was a very dear friend of my grandfather, he wrote the book, World Without Cancer, because my grandfather begged him and said, Ed, we got something here.
• 47:32
  It's incredibly interesting.
• 47:34
  They're you know, they're suppressing the information about this vitamin.
• 47:38
  Ed is now 93.
• 47:40
  I've I've known him my entire life.
• 47:42
  And when I was young, he told me that uh ever since he learned about apricot seeds, which was in 19 early 1970s now.
• 47:50
  Uh and anybody he's talked to, any anybody close to him, friends or family that have semi-regularly eaten apricot seeds, so semi-regularly, not even every day.
• 48:01
  He told me has they have never, he's never seen anybody get cancer.
• 48:04
  Wow.
• 48:05
  And he and I I talked to him about four months ago, and I asked him, I said, Ed, you told me this when I was a kid, and I tell people this story all the time.
• 48:13
  Can you confirm if this is still the case?
• 48:15
  And he said, This is that is absolutely still the case.
• 48:17
  And so while I would love to sit here and make sure you said everybody's doing their daily apricot seeds, I do it daily.
• 48:24
  I know most of the people in my life do it daily.
• 48:27
  Yeah, do we mess up here or there when you're on vacation?
• 48:30
  Of course.
• 48:31
  But if you as close to consistent as you can possibly can, and you there's much more than just staving off the C word away when you're when you're uh not non-deficient in all of these vitamins, the vitamin D, magnesium, vitamin C, vitamin B17, the list goes on and on and on, right?
• 48:52
  Yeah, that's for sure.
• 48:53
  So we've been talking around the circles about this now for 40 almost 45 minutes.
• 48:58
  Where can people get these apricot seeds and to just start incorporating them a little bit into your life every single day?
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  Uh, like you said, as a meal, you know, as a as a powder that you could put into a smoothie.
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  Where can people get them?
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  And um I do you guys ship all over the world?
• 49:15
  Yeah, we ship all over the world.
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  And uh you had brought up YouTube earlier, and I'm very proud of you for trying to get back onto YouTube because uh the times are changing, and there are platforms that we're on now that we were kicked off of years ago.
• 49:30
  And and our consistency and continuing to try and push the envelope has opened up so many doors for us, and I and I think you'll do amazing on YouTube.
• 49:39
  But they can we ship all over the world.
• 49:42
  We you you can go to our website at www.rnc store.com forward slash D R T.
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  If you do the forward slash, you'll make sure you get 10% off your purchase.
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  And uh and and that code will automatically go in, or just you can wait to check out.
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  And then make sure you use code DRT at checkout.
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  Go check out what we have on our website.
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  If you have any questions, our customer service is amazing.
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  I know we talked about a lot here, but if you're if you're just trying to figure out, hey, I just want to get started.
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  We have a 30 day supply pack of apricot seeds on our website.
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  Very inexpensive.
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  It's a good place to get your foot in the door and just see, hey, is this for me?
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  Is this something I should try?
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  Let me try 30 days and see how I feel afterwards.
• 50:26
  So I would go to our website and order from there.
• 50:29
  Well, it makes sense to be doing this preventively because it's just something simple to do every single day.
• 50:35
  But if you already have cancer, what would you advise people about about the apricot seeds now?
• 50:41
  Yeah, I think uh we have a huge growing um, you know, circle of doctors that are administering this in the in the US right now.
• 50:51
  And so our first thing would be to, you know, help point you in the right direction to speak to a medical professional.
• 50:58
  Uh, at RNC, we are justice supplier.
• 51:00
  I can I can speak to experiences I've had, but obviously I'm not a doctor, so I don't do any treatments.
• 51:05
  I can I I do I focus more on when you are prevented, when you are preventative, and uh, you know, this is how much you take just to stave off all those things.
• 51:15
  But when you do have something, it's not the end of the world, right?
• 51:18
  You it's it's not a uh it's not a fast killer.
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  Now, there's sometimes there's emergencies and stuff, but typically when you get diagnosed, uh you have time.
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  You have time to to think about your options.
• 51:30
  So I want I I encourage everybody to do their own research, go over your own options, all your options, ask, find a doctor that is willing to be patient with you and answer your questions because you know, a lot of times they'll just it's just they're going on to the next patient or whatever.
• 51:48
  So when if it becomes real and you get diagnosed, the first thing to do is to take a good hard look at your diet and your life and go speak to a medical professional that you trust.
• 51:58
  That's what I would say.
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  We have resources here.
• 52:01
  If you ever need uh resources, you could reach out to us at rncstore.com and we could help point you in the right direction depending on where you're at.
• 52:09
  We also have a website called uh www.b17works.com.
• 52:15
  And that's uh kind of a funnel to where if you're hey, I I have this affliction and I really don't know where to turn it.
• 52:22
  I need somebody to help point me in the right direction.
• 52:25
  One of our customer service agents will reach out to you and make sure you get the information that you're looking for.
• 52:31
  That's really, really great.
• 52:32
  That's really good.
• 52:33
  And be sure you use that affiliate code DRT for you get your 10% off.
• 52:37
  And you can do that each time that you order, it's just not your first order.
• 52:41
  No, you could do it every single time you order it.
• 52:44
  Yeah, that's really good.
• 52:45
  You know, I had um Dr.
• 52:46
  Francisco Contreras on the show a few uh a while back about the ACES of the Oasis of Hope Hospital.
• 52:54
  Uh, it's a 60 bed hospital that's in Tijuana, Mexico that's been around for 60 years.
• 53:01
  And I think they were um compatriots of your grandfather that they were treating cancer down there.
• 53:07
  And he talked a lot and talks a lot in his book about using amygdala and um, which is B17.
• 53:13
  So there are other places, and and I will say this for anyone who may be listening to this that has cancer or knows somebody that they love has cancer.
• 53:21
  I would start by by getting them on some simple apricot seeds.
• 53:25
  It's so simple and clean up your diet, get rid of seed oils, get rid of all the junk in your cupboards.
• 53:30
  Don't donate it to a food bank, throw it away.
• 53:33
  If you're not supposed to be eating it, don't be giving it to other people either.
• 53:37
  So do that.
• 53:38
  And you can go you can go to Oasis of Hope and you uh it's Oasis of Hope.com and you can call them.
• 53:45
  They offer a free consultation for you, and we'll find out if you're a good fit.
• 53:50
  And I know that you've got other resources on your website too, Ryan, where you can help get people contacted with integrative practitioners because when people hear the word cancer, they suddenly get all scared.
• 54:01
  And the conversation that I had with Dr.
• 54:03
  Contreras was saying that you know, you can live with cancer.
• 54:07
  You know, can treatment will make you think that you only live if you get rid of the tumor, which isn't necessarily true.
• 54:16
  Sometimes you put it into a place of of remission and you choke off the uh the blood supply, and you put uh like the B17 in there, which kills it at the mitochondrial level, and then it's just sitting there and it's not doing anything, and you go on and live your life.
• 54:31
  And so um that's such an amazing point.
• 54:34
  And Dr.
• 54:34
  Contreras was is a family friend, and Dr.
• 54:37
  Contreras still has my grandfather's uh desk in his office in Tijuana, and they would send people uh back and forth to each other.
• 54:46
  They're like, Oh, you're in this area, go see, go see Dr.
• 54:49
  Contreras.
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  Oh, you're in the Bay Area, go see Dr.
• 54:51
  John Richardson.
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  They were those kind of friends, and my grandfather was sourcing um sourcing some of the IVs from them at the time because you couldn't even make it in America.
• 55:01
  The rules have changed, but that's such an amazing point that Dr.
• 55:04
  Contreras says it's you can live with it.
• 55:07
  And do you want to live with it uh fighting it and your hair is falling out and you lose 40 pounds of weight and your family can't even hardly recognize you?
• 55:18
  Or the side effects.
• 55:19
  I had a very close friend who got their buddy to start taking B17 after a chemo had closed his throat up.
• 55:27
  He couldn't swallow anymore.
• 55:28
  He was eating liquid foods with a tube.
• 55:31
  And he convinced him, hey, you know, this is this has hurt you so much.
• 55:34
  Can we try this now?
• 55:35
  Let's try, let's try this now.
• 55:37
  And he said, Yeah.
• 55:38
  And two weeks later, he goes, okay, here's all the side effects of B17.
• 55:42
  His appetite came back, his throat, his throat opened and he can now swallow and drink water on his own.
• 55:50
  His pain, all the pain related to the cancer went away.
• 55:55
  And his energy levels went came back up.
• 55:58
  If that the side effects of B17, count me in, right?
• 56:01
  Let's try it.
• 56:02
  Or at the very least, if you're gonna go the orthodox medicine route, which if you if you have gone over all your options and you're most comfortable with that, then that is your decision.
• 56:13
  But do it alongside it.
• 56:15
  It's very inexpensive.
• 56:16
  Do it alongside it.
• 56:18
  So time for today.
• 56:19
  So we've got just one more time.
• 56:21
  Just quickly say your website because we're up to a hard stop here.
• 56:25
  So what's your website where they can find you?
• 56:27
  Come to www.rnc store.com forward slash DRT.
• 56:34
  Come visit us at rnc store.com forward slash DRT.
• 56:38
  Well, thank you so much for shedding so much information to honest about health, nutrition, fighting off cancer naturally and restoring your health.
• 56:45
  And so I want to thank everybody.
• 56:46
  So thank you so much, Ryan, for being with us today.
• 56:49
  Thank everybody who's listened to us today and in the future.
• 56:51
  Thank you if you're listening in the future.
• 56:53
  We will see you here tomorrow or the next time on the 10 penny files.
• 56:58
  Have a great rest of your day, everybody.
• 56:59
  Goodbye and God bless.