Latest / Privycast / Ep. 193 Groundhog Day 2026: Rabbits, Capybaras, Mountain Beavers, and Poop Vitamins
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- 0:02The round
- 0:16I don't know guys.
- 0:19Come on let's do it again!
- 0:24You're on the ho-
- 0:32Yes, sir, there he is.
- 0:40Awesome, awesome guys.
- 0:42to get Phil fired up.
- 0:45Let's get Phil fired up.
- 0:46By chanting Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil.
- 0:55uh It's really struggling with that hog.
- 1:08Yeah, sir.
- 1:19Welcome back to Privy.
- 1:21Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded from my home bathroom.
- 1:28I'm your host, Hunter Hoover, and I love bathrooms.
- 1:32Welcome back everyone.
- 1:33Thank you so much for being here.
- 1:35And if you didn't hear it from the intro stinger for the episode, this episode is being recorded on Groundhog Day.
- 1:45Happy Groundhog's Day, everybody.
- 1:48Shoot, I got a text in an audible.
- 1:50can't believe I've, I can't believe I've bungled this so hard.
- 1:55Listeners of the show, if you're, if you're joining us and you're, you're regular here, welcome.
- 2:00Thank you for being here.
- 2:01And those who've been with us for some time will know that every year on Groundhog's Day, we celebrate God's good creatures by looking specifically at the many strange and
- 2:15wonderful things that
- 2:17happen with their poop.
- 2:19February, yes, yes, there it is.
- 2:24It's the Plump Satomi hat.
- 2:28You know, for all the, the holidays that we could get absolutely just Jones about in February, you've got presidents day, you've got Valium times day, you've got snooper bowl
- 2:43Friday or Sunday or whatever the heck day that they decided to meet for that cult gathering.
- 2:49You probably have some other weird thing in there, but today and every year on privy on this.
- 2:57week's release, we are commemorating and remembering Groundhog Day.
- 3:03And at the point of this episode's release, though, I want to admit, you're listening to this after Groundhog Day has already happened.
- 3:09So we already know the results and you might be a little upset at old plumps of Tommy for seeing his shadow.
- 3:16He done went and saw it.
- 3:17And so there's like six more weeks of winter or something.
- 3:21And what people don't get is like, no matter what, whether he sees his shadow or not,
- 3:26There's going to be six more weeks of winter.
- 3:28Like it's going to be wintry somewhere on this earth.
- 3:32And every year to celebrate Groundhog's Day, we dive into look at one of, like I said, God's great creatures and specifically some of the things that happen with, or that is
- 3:46strange about their bathroom habits and pooping.
- 3:49Over the course of the last few years, we've looked at a number of these, including Groundhogs.
- 3:54And I want to also admit.
- 3:57In recent years, we've truly strayed from the path a bit about looking at animal poop.
- 4:05We've talked about bears and cats and koalas and all sorts of strange poop-bearing creatures.
- 4:14And it's been fun.
- 4:15We've learned a lot.
- 4:16We've learned a lot about animals and the stuff that they skeet, which is kind of cool.
- 4:21Everybody skeets and that includes animals.
- 4:24And we learned a lot about
- 4:26our bathroom habits from looking at these animals.
- 4:29And it's a reminder that even the animal world has some amount of respect for cleanliness.
- 4:36But not all bathroom lessons that we might learn by observing our animal friends are transferable.
- 4:46We're gonna find that out pretty quickly as we dive into today's episode.
- 4:53Before we jump just solely deep into this pig, we're going to take a brief detour, a privy detour, boxer brief detour into the world of vitamins and minerals.
- 5:13Now, for our purposes in this episode, we need to be looking at primarily two vitamins.
- 5:21That is vitamin B, particularly vitamin B12 and vitamin K.
- 5:26Now, what are vitamins?
- 5:27The short version and the scientific version is science has figured out that there are certain rocks that do certain things inside our bodies when those rocks make it inside of
- 5:40our bodies.
- 5:41And when our bodies begin to break down those very good rocks, it benefits our bodies in direct, tangible ways.
- 5:48One of these good rocks is vitamin B12.
- 5:51And vitamin B12 is pretty good.
- 5:53It helps your nervous system.
- 5:54And that doesn't mean like, I'm nervous.
- 5:57I'm a real nervous squirvus.
- 5:59No, it's like your nerves and the endings and the reaction and stuff like that.
- 6:04It also helps with red blood cell production.
- 6:07brain function helps give you more energy, can prevent anemia.
- 6:13And in short, vitamin B12 is good stuff.
- 6:16It's like an energizing vitamin.
- 6:18And if you've ever drunk one of them, one of them Big Gulp energy drinks, it probably has vitamin B12 in it because like vitamin B12 as a natural good rock that we sup,
- 6:31accomplishes a lot of the same things that energy drinks want to accomplish for us.
- 6:38Vitamin B12 for most of us carnivorous folks, which means we like to dine on the animal flesh.
- 6:46It often comes from animal products that we eat, particularly meat.
- 6:51And so for those of you out there, of you, who do not eat meat, which, know, okay, we gotta have the groundhog visible.
- 7:00We gotta have it visible.
- 7:01Okay.
- 7:02Often we'll need to get your vitamin B12, very good vitamin rocks, from a different source.
- 7:08There's fortified foods, foods that they've like put the vitamin B12 into to help like you be ready to have vitamin B12 even though you're not eating food that naturally has it.
- 7:19Often this is grains and produce and stuff like that.
- 7:23You can also get your vitamin B12 unnaturally in a capsule that you take once per day known as a multivitamin.
- 7:32And if you can't get enough B12,
- 7:36In your diet, some of the things that you might experience are tiredness, weakness, nerve issues, irritability, can lead to shortness of breath.
- 7:44Not great.
- 7:46Very bad.
- 7:47Similarly, vitamin K supports bone health and helps blood clotting and other heart healthiness.
- 7:54And I'll note there's two types of vitamin K.
- 7:57There's vitamin K1, which you can get from those leafy greens.
- 8:01I've been snacking down leafy greens hard for the past four or five months.
- 8:05Really getting uh a steady flow of the leafy greens.
- 8:10And vitamin K2, which is again, it's going to come from animal products.
- 8:14You need both, both are good for you.
- 8:16And you can also find similarly fortified foods.
- 8:20If you're not getting your normal intake of protein animal products to get the B12 and the K.
- 8:26Or again, you can pop a very good capsule to get those vitamins straight into the system.
- 8:32Pop the bites, get the poops.
- 8:35It's all connected.
- 8:38And if you don't have enough vitamin K, you may be susceptible to excessive bleeding, bruising, easily having weak bones.
- 8:46And again, it's not great.
- 8:47You want these things in your system.
- 8:51And so all of these vitamins and all this vitamin talk, I'm starting to sound like a GNC over here, trying to sell you some weird flippin' supplement so you can like become more
- 9:02powerful or whatever.
- 9:03they're trying to accomplish with this stuff.
- 9:05And that's all well and good.
- 9:07We have the vitamin aisle and multiple grocery stores and it's easy to track down vitamins if we're not getting them in our daily diet.
- 9:17But the question is, and the question that we want to explore on this Groundhog's Day episode of Privy is what do you do if you are one of God's beautiful forest, mountain,
- 9:29valley, or desert creatures?
- 9:32And you don't have science which tells you that the good rocks and the very nice vitamins are necessary and where they are and how you can obtain them.
- 9:44And what if even worse, you as one of God's very good creatures don't have the necessary equipment, equipment in your mouth.
- 9:55That's what, or in your digestive tract down in the tummy buddies.
- 10:00for consuming the animal products and thus being able to break them down and receive these vitamins the natural way.
- 10:10If you're surviving as one of these beautiful creatures in nature, having excessive bleeding, tiredness, weak bones, being out of energy, out of breath, it's not like for us
- 10:23humans.
- 10:24Like if I'm tired on most given days, I'm gonna slam some coffee.
- 10:29I'm going to maybe take it a little slow.
- 10:31Maybe go to bed a little earlier that night.
- 10:34But like no mountain beast is going to hunt me down and gut me like a fish.
- 10:39I'm going to be fine.
- 10:41Generally speaking.
- 10:42I'll take a fat nap.
- 10:43But if I'm like a small mountain rabbit and I'm sluggish and whatever, something's going to eat me in the woods.
- 10:50It's going to track me down and, and snack me real hard.
- 10:55Just sup and sup and dump.
- 10:58And so.
- 11:00being tired and being weak are not conducive for these great creatures, for them being alive.
- 11:09And so they don't have pharmacies and cars and all the things that we have for us to go procure these vitamins if we're not getting them out of nature.
- 11:19And so there has to be a new, more creative way for them to get these nutrients that they would
- 11:27otherwise not be able to take in.
- 11:33Their means for doing so, their means for getting these nutrients puts them in a category of creature called a coprophagious creature.
- 11:46Now, coprophagy is the behavior typically in animals.
- 11:51I would like to say only in animals, but like,
- 11:56As we're going to find out, that's not the case.
- 11:59Where in the animal eats their own feces as a vital process of gaining the needed nutrients to support their ongoing health.
- 12:13Woof.
- 12:14Literally woof because dogs do this all the time.
- 12:19They be eating some skeet.
- 12:22It should be noted there are different categories of coprophagy.
- 12:28Autocoprophagy is when the animal eats their own feces to help bolster this process.
- 12:34Allocoprophagy is when they eat the feces of the same species.
- 12:39The feces of the same species.
- 12:42I'm a poet, but it's not their own.
- 12:45So it's like, I'm not going to eat some other type of creature stuff, like, get my great uncle Greggy over here and let him skeet a fat stack and all, and I'll make, I'll get my
- 12:58vitamin B12s from that.
- 13:01Heterospecific.
- 13:03Nice hetero.
- 13:04Coprophagy is when they eat hetero.
- 13:08Get it?
- 13:09The same.
- 13:10The poop are no different.
- 13:12Dang it, the same as a homo.
- 13:14I messed it up.
- 13:15I forgot.
- 13:16That's my bad.
- 13:17That's my bad.
- 13:18But a heterospecific coprophagy is when they eat the poop of other creatures that are different than them.
- 13:28And I'm going be honest with you.
- 13:30I'm not really sure which of those options are the worst, to tell you the truth.
- 13:35Like it's a real head scratcher.
- 13:37It's a, it's a classic, like poop sandwich or like, do you want a poop sandwich or a fart sandwich?
- 13:45It's a bad choice all around.
- 13:46More literally though, this one might be a poop sandwich for these animals, but we don't just want to look at general coprophagous creatures.
- 13:55There are many reasons an animal would
- 13:58engage in coprophagy.
- 14:01Some do it to kind of min-max their digestion, monkeys and other things like they got to get maximized their gains.
- 14:10Others engage in this behavior as a primary food source, dung beetles being an example there.
- 14:17Still others do it as a means of actually activating their own digestive system to prepare it for consuming and breaking down other
- 14:27harder to break down things.
- 14:28We've talked about koalas engaging in this in the past, the such.
- 14:33But the animals that we want to look at this week and on this episode of Privy are creatures who engage in coprophagy as a means of supplementing or gaining their essential
- 14:47vitamins, particularly vitamin B12, vitamin K.
- 14:50It all comes together.
- 14:53Why did Hunter talk so long about all those vitamins and nutrients and supplements at the beginning?
- 14:59Like usually he gets all the weird diet-y stuff out in January and he didn't really do that.
- 15:03So maybe he's here in February.
- 15:05No, no, I'm not wasting our Groundhog Day special to talk about vitamins.
- 15:09That would be stupid.
- 15:12And so to begin,
- 15:15We gotta talk a little bit about who these beautiful creatures are on this Groundhog Day special episode of-
- 15:24Creatures who engage in this coprophagous behavior in order to get these specific nutrients seem to be in these specific categories.
- 15:35Rabbits of pretty much all types of rabbit, small rodents and other mountain rodents of various types, including the mountain beaver, capybaras, and in some occasions where
- 15:48malnourishment occurs, pigs.
- 15:52The next time you're on a game show.
- 15:54and they ask you, what characteristic unites beavers, rabbits, capybaras, and pigs?
- 16:03While you could say mammal, it would be more interesting if you said, yes, these are all animals that eat their own poop.
- 16:14And what's weird is there's actually a pattern in how these animals do this thing.
- 16:24Rabbits eat a portion of their poop called Cicotropes, which is a particularly soft type of feces.
- 16:35Why did, you know, I'm trying to think.
- 16:37Like I think it's worse.
- 16:39I'm trying to like wrap my brain around this.
- 16:42But for me, it's worse.
- 16:44Like if you're going to eat a turd, I think I want it to be hard.
- 16:49Like, I mean, I'm not going to eat nothing.
- 16:52This is not an experimental episode.
- 16:55This is a science animal loving episode.
- 16:57I've got, I've got the groundhog hat.
- 16:59This is not science mic hat.
- 17:02But like.
- 17:03In my brain, I want it to be more solid.
- 17:07I don't know.
- 17:08I think it's just easier to interface with.
- 17:10think that's where I'm at on that.
- 17:13Capybaras seem to engage in this behavior, particularly in the morning, so as to help with absorption throughout the rest of the day.
- 17:22And so we begin to ask ourselves.
- 17:28What would cause these creatures to engage in this behavior?
- 17:33And in short, they often engage in this.
- 17:37It's a feeling within the animal.
- 17:39You know, they have to validate their feelings.
- 17:42We're teaching animals and humans who maybe sometimes think they are to validate themselves left and right out here.
- 17:50Well, the crumpy, the crumpy barbras and the reboots and the, the mountain mice.
- 17:56And the mountain beavers, nice mountain beavers, woof.
- 18:01They feel on their insides as if there's something wrong.
- 18:04So you got to validate their feelings.
- 18:06Dang it.
- 18:07But this feeling causes them to do this.
- 18:13And then once they eat their poop, it alleviates that feeling and they return to that behavior because, well, it helped the weird bad feeling that I had go away once.
- 18:26Maybe if I jump back in and go round two, it'll help me feel better again.
- 18:33How many people only take their multivitamins because they feel bad?
- 18:39It's usually because they've made a habit of it.
- 18:42But these creatures, the science of why they're diving into their poop is to obtain vitamins they would not otherwise get.
- 18:51All of the creatures I listed are plant eating creatures.
- 18:55And again,
- 18:56They're primarily unable to obtain vitamin B12 and vitamin K without doing so.
- 19:04All these creatures are herbivores, which means they eat the herb and not that one.
- 19:09Uh, and as such, they're not eating animal products like I am.
- 19:15I had some animal products today.
- 19:17You know what I'm saying?
- 19:18A little salami.
- 19:19They call me, they call me Sammy salami.
- 19:22I had some cheese.
- 19:25What else animal products do have?
- 19:29I had a couple hot dogs.
- 19:30think that's technically an animal product.
- 19:32I'm going to say it is.
- 19:34Yeah.
- 19:35Yeah, we're going to say it is.
- 19:37But these creatures have to do this to eat the So what's going on?
- 19:42Why would these creatures eating their poop do anything to help the vitamin intake situation?
- 19:52In short, as far as nature is concerned,
- 19:56It's a matter of the creature doing a thing and feeling they're better for it and then repeating it as a result.
- 20:05The capabara, the crappy Barbara realizes when he starts his day with a hot brown stack of whack, he feels better.
- 20:16He feels more ready to take on his day.
- 20:19He's got more energy.
- 20:20He doesn't feel as weak.
- 20:21His bones feel stronger.
- 20:25And you can't blame the guy.
- 20:26I mean, maybe you could.
- 20:27He is eating his own poop.
- 20:30But he's doing it because he feels better as a result.
- 20:37Research was conducted to figure out like, but like why?
- 20:41Like usually this research is done in vets or zoos or other locations where the poop eating behavior can be easily observed.
- 20:53And as they would do it, they would be taking blood and other stool samples and comparing those tests of the creatures who were allowed to eat crap and those who were not.
- 21:05And when the ones eating poop are doing better, it begins to like beg the question, what is in the poop that they are eating that is producing this benefit in them?
- 21:21And so science begins to do what science does best, root around in that scoot.
- 21:29They note what changes.
- 21:31And there's a number of benefits.
- 21:34First off is there's an added level of water absorption.
- 21:37There's some water that is lost in the process of passing a turd.
- 21:42And when these animals eat those turds, especially animals who live in a drier climate, they can actually recoup some lost hydration.
- 21:52Not exactly the path forward that I'd take, but again, I'll just fill up my Nalgene and I'm good.
- 21:58They don't have Nalgenes, silly, crumpy barbers, silly rabbits.
- 22:02Nalgenes are for humans.
- 22:05Maybe you ought to get one.
- 22:07I'm sure there's some sort of weird, ridiculous government spending that exists out there somewhere that's like, have to install Nalgene water droppers for the wild rabbits so they
- 22:16don't have to eat their own poop and they can get some more hydration.
- 22:19So that way, and it's like, you know, yeah, they're also re-digesting some of the undigested food parts that made it through the first time.
- 22:31They're also introducing
- 22:33new microbiota or like micro bacterias to their tummies from round one.
- 22:39And it turns out many of these creatures in eating their own poop show that they were able to recover those missing vitamin B12 and K nutrients they would have otherwise been
- 22:54lacking.
- 22:56And so like
- 22:59What happens in the gut of these creatures?
- 23:03In short, like what goes on?
- 23:06Because they eat the plants which don't have as much of these things and then they poop, but those vitamins and minerals seem to be present in the poop to the point where when
- 23:18they eat the poop, they gain the vitamins.
- 23:20It's like nature's little multivitamin nugget.
- 23:23Tell that the next time somebody tells you to grab a rabbit turd and hand it to them, say.
- 23:28Take two and call me in the morning, doc.
- 23:31I'm not a doctor.
- 23:33Just putting it out there.
- 23:36In short, the microbiota, the gut biome of these creatures is producing and has naturally occurring sources of vitamins, particularly vitamin K and vitamin B12.
- 23:51And some of these vitamins are not absorbed and are actually missed on first pass.
- 23:56It's as if the microbiomes of the mountain beaver and the mountain rabbit and the crampy Barbara and the mountain mice.
- 24:05actually introduce it like produces the vitamins in the guts of the animals and actually puts it into the.
- 24:16And so, to get access to the vitamins that their own guts are producing, they have to eat what their gut produced, namely their own feces.
- 24:32When these animals eat their poop, they are much like countless humans do daily with a large glass of water, taking their daily multivitamin.
- 24:45Hold that wisdom.
- 24:47Hold that wisdom in your brain the next time you get ready to pop some rocks.
- 24:51You know what saying?
- 24:52Like when you get ready to sling back some vitamins, really sling back some supplements, remember, you
- 25:02Don't have to eat your own poop to recoup vitamins.
- 25:07Capybaras, rabbits, mountain beavers are all our coprophagous friends who got to go back for seconds on their skeet to get those sweet, sweet vitamins.
- 25:21It's tough.
- 25:23It's a tough look.
- 25:26But like, what are the implications?
- 25:30The animal kingdom has given us yet another gift via their poop.
- 25:36In short, the idea is this.
- 25:39What's good for one has to be good for all.
- 25:43While humans are not readily turning to snacking their own stack for vitamin B12 and vitamin K because they've got other means.
- 25:54for obtaining those vitamins that we discussed at the beginning of this episode.
- 25:59They have, as we've discussed in the past on our show, turned to poop to try to remedy and begin to figure out some various tummy troubles and ailments that can arrive and arise
- 26:14throughout their lives.
- 26:17Go check out our fecal medical transplant or our poop transplant episode and in short,
- 26:23They, medicine has figured out that if you introduce poop into the system, it'll help restore some level of gut health to those whose gut microbiome has suffered to the point
- 26:38where they're unable to like digest.
- 26:40I don't know.
- 26:42For creatures.
- 26:45And for centuries, for centuries, vitamin B12 was primarily obtained through animal products or the bacteria that just kind of existed in our world.
- 26:58But as hygiene standards increased, secondary opportunities to get this vitamin naturally have actually diminished.
- 27:10But that's okay.
- 27:11Everybody eats meat and animals though, right?
- 27:16And then vegans.
- 27:20In extreme cases of veganism, it's led to feelings of anemia and in some instances, actually producing anemia in the person.
- 27:30And while the easy solution is just like eat a fricking cheeseburger.
- 27:35If you're opposed to the sweet cheesy bees.
- 27:40This led many scientists in the nights to ask, what could we learn from our animal friends?
- 27:48There were a series of experiments.
- 27:50done in the 90s wherein they took a group of vegan people who had experienced these symptoms and not wanting to take any animal products, sought to obtain vitamin B12 by
- 28:05isolating it from their stool.
- 28:09I want to note, this is not the same as what our animal friends do.
- 28:14Our animal friends do truly eat their own turds, but like
- 28:20The idea was this, you have plant eating creatures who have similar problems of tiredness and fatigue and the like.
- 28:30And when those animals eat their own poop, it like helps treat that condition that they have.
- 28:38And so if you had a plant eating human being, could that plant eating human being eat their own skeet to recoup similar
- 28:50vitamins and minerals.
- 28:53Now, while the humans are not like snack in a stack, it's under this premise that humans like many animals would produce vitamin B12 in their intestinal tract.
- 29:06But that humans do so in a part of the tract that is actually too far down the line for absorption.
- 29:14And as such, those vitamin B12s that are very good and would be normally helpful
- 29:20or actually passed.
- 29:22They pooped out, if you will.
- 29:26And so the premise of these experiments in the 90s was that your poop is chock full of vitamin B12.
- 29:35And it turns out that was actually correct.
- 29:40And so the question was, can we take those turds and isolate the material?
- 29:49That's science for extracted.
- 29:54by cooking it or boiling it or mixing it with water.
- 29:57Somehow we're to do something to this turret.
- 30:00Somebody drops a fatty.
- 30:02Like, you know what?
- 30:02In the name of science, I'm going to interface with that log.
- 30:06So I can extract some very good nutrients out of it, I guess.
- 30:10Like, let's put the animal kingdoms to us.
- 30:14Once those vitamins and minerals have been extracted from the turd, they are then reintroduced to the human.
- 30:24And they did show, and it did improve the vitamin B12 levels in those test vegans.
- 30:34In some cases, it even helped with their feelings and conditions of anemia.
- 30:39And much of this was likely produced within their system.
- 30:42If they ingested little to no B12 up top, the poop had
- 30:49higher levels and upon ingesting the extracted B12 after the fact, it was absorbed and increased the amount.
- 30:56Seems they were onto something.
- 30:57It's like we are a little vitamin B12 battery, if you will.
- 31:04And so in this episode of Priti for Groundhog Day, what the capybara, the rabbit and the mountain beaver know instinctually?
- 31:17Get it?
- 31:18In stink truly because of like turds and stink.
- 31:24Humans had to science their way into discussions of eating poop.
- 31:32It's a wild world.
- 31:33And what's even more baffling is the fact that it might actually have worked.
- 31:38I'm going to stick to multivitamins myself.
- 31:46This brings us to the end of another episode of Privy.
- 31:49Thank you so much for being here.
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- 31:52Happy Groundhog Day.
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