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Congressman Massie and the Epstein Files · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: These days you need to keep an open mind. On
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  Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station and a very very
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  Speaker 1: happy Wednesday, extra special Wednesday when you get Congressman Thomas Massey,
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  Speaker 1: followed by Judge enital Poulitano, and then you pile on
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  Speaker 1: g Van Fleet, author of Mao's America. This is a
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  Speaker 1: great hour of power in fifty five krc Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Congressman Massy. I always enjoy having you on
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  Speaker 1: the program, and I certainly appreciate your willingness to talk
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  Speaker 1: with my listeners and me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very special day in Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 3: I got a I've been fighting for five months against
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  Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House, the President of the United States,
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  Speaker 3: the FBI director, the Attorney General, UH, basically.
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  Speaker 2: Every power that's in Washington, DC was trying to stop me.
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  Speaker 2: And yesterday I succeeded it, passing a bill in the
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  Speaker 2: House of Representatives to release the Epstein files. And the
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  Speaker 2: vote was four hundred and twenty seven to.
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  Speaker 1: One plus unanimous consent to release it. Out of the sentence.
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  Speaker 1: This is going through. This is a done deal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the for the process nerds. The Senate usually
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  Speaker 2: takes three days to even bring up a bill on
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  Speaker 2: the calendar. They passed our bill before it even got
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  Speaker 2: to the Senate. They didn't even have our bill yet.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, they'll get it at ten am this morning, but.
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  Speaker 4: They've already voted agreed that as soon as it's there,
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  Speaker 4: it's passed. I know that I've never seen the Senate
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  Speaker 4: work so fast that they work like it's negative time
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  Speaker 4: to pass the bill three days or a year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know there was some discussions there might be
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  Speaker 1: some amendments over in the Senate to deal with at
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  Speaker 1: least a concern raised by one member of the House.
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  Speaker 1: But beyond that, clearly there are going to be no amendments.
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  Speaker 1: It is moving through it at light speed, which, as
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  Speaker 1: you point out, never happens. The burning question for America
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Messy, does this mean you and Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: will now'll be playing nicely together since you obviously were
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  Speaker 1: on the right side of this given the overwhelming bipartisan approval,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, almost unanimous across the board approval.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, somebody asked, why did he eventually come
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  Speaker 2: over to my side on this bill? Because he did
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  Speaker 2: at the last minute endorse its passage, and I said
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  Speaker 2: he got tired of me winning.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that.
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  Speaker 2: There. I mean there were, Brian, there were so many
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  Speaker 2: last minute efforts to kill this thing once we got
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and eighteen signatures that I had to stay
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  Speaker 2: on my toes every second. They invited Lauren Bobert, one
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  Speaker 2: of the co signers that had to sign it, to
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  Speaker 2: get me to eighteen. In the hour before we picked
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  Speaker 2: up the two hundred and eighteenth co signer, they had
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  Speaker 2: her over at to White House in the situation with
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  Speaker 2: the Attorney Journal and the FBI director trying to get
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  Speaker 2: her to take her name off of the discharge petition,
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  Speaker 2: which was the vehicle I used to force the vote.
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  Speaker 2: And then after they did that, you know they can
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  Speaker 2: play with the rules. It was. It was quite a
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  Speaker 2: delicate dance. They instead of passing my bill as I
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  Speaker 2: had intended, they decided to bring it up under a
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  Speaker 2: suspension of the rules. I know, I'm getting into weeds here,
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  Speaker 2: but they were going to try. The Speaker Johnson wanted
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  Speaker 2: to amend it, but there were and he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: put a loophole in there that would have effectively killed
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  Speaker 2: the bill. He was saying that they needed to protect
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  Speaker 2: the people in the Epstein files that would maybe be
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed by these disclosures. Well, if you protect everybody, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be embarrassed by the disclosures, You're also going
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  Speaker 2: to protect the rapists and the pedophiles because they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be embarrassed too. He was, so he wanted this
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  Speaker 2: loophole in there that said if there's no if there's
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  Speaker 2: not a credible conviction or something or investigation, here's here's
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted. Ultimately, they want to hold the files
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  Speaker 2: back because of active ongoing investigation, and they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to release anybody's name unless there's a legitimate investigation of them. Effectively,
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  Speaker 2: they would have locked the whole thing up, but Speaker
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  Speaker 2: Johnson lost control of the House yesterday so he had
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  Speaker 2: to let the bill pass. And then he was saying,
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  Speaker 2: the Senate will amend this, the Senate will amend this,
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  Speaker 2: they'll fix it, and fun and Schumer were like, we
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  Speaker 2: ain't touching this thing. Nobody's coming to a microphone to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this. We saw you fumble this thing for
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  Speaker 2: five months, and we're just going to go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: pass it before it gets here. That's what they did
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  Speaker 2: in the Senate, and the Speaker is just he is,
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  Speaker 2: it's apoplectic today that this bill passed and he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get the Senate to do his dirty work.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we got to do a real brief history on this.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats were in control under the Biden administration. They had
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  Speaker 1: all the opportunity of the world to release these documents,
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  Speaker 1: which have been in a pile someplace. They didn't lift
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  Speaker 1: a finger to do it. Donald Trump gets elected, he
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  Speaker 1: had campaigned on releasing the documents, said he would release
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  Speaker 1: them and then lo and behold. As soon as he
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  Speaker 1: gets elected, He's like, well, no, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do that. The dj looked at him as there's nothing there.
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  Speaker 1: There is no Epstein Black Book. So the position was
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  Speaker 1: a one eighty. And what puzzled everybody, me included, I
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  Speaker 1: know it puzzled you. Why the one eighty, Why this
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  Speaker 1: strong opposition in the face of prior promises to release it.
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  Speaker 1: What is behind all of this? Congressman Thomas Massey.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's only one explanation. They all got elected and
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  Speaker 2: they looked at these files and they held, dear Lord,
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  Speaker 2: we can't let this get out. And even as recently
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  Speaker 2: as a few weeks ago, cash Ptel was testifying that
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  Speaker 2: there was only one sexual predator and that was Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: Well the problem here, Brian, is there a thousand victims.
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  Speaker 2: This thing was so widespread and so pervasive and went
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  Speaker 2: on so long that this sex trafficking ring accumulated a
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  Speaker 2: thousand victims. And we had we've had two dozen of
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  Speaker 2: them come to Congress Rocan and I gave them a forum.
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  Speaker 2: We had a press conference, the biggest press conference that
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  Speaker 2: anybody can remember in Washington, DC. We did that a
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  Speaker 2: couple months ago, and then we did one yesterday again
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  Speaker 2: with these survivors. And they can't deny that there are
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  Speaker 2: other men who committed these crimes, because the survivors know
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  Speaker 2: there are other men. Yeah, so this is it's just
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  Speaker 2: a great day. I spent some time with the survivors.
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  Speaker 2: They as they said, this is the first time in
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  Speaker 2: a long time they've had tears of joy. They really
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  Speaker 2: were so emotional because I mean, they brought pictures of
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  Speaker 2: themselves when they were fourteen when they were molested and
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  Speaker 2: trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. Because you know, they're older now.
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  Speaker 2: They have daughters that are fourteen now, these women do.
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  Speaker 2: So they brought pictures to our press conference to humanize
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  Speaker 2: and for people to realize this guy was a pedophile.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't that he liked younger women. He liked girls
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  Speaker 2: that were not young women. He was a predator on them,
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  Speaker 2: and then he trafficked and then he trafficked them even
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  Speaker 2: even when they became an age of consent. He farmed
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  Speaker 2: them out to other men. I mean, it's so disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: And then he used their shame and guilt and fear
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  Speaker 2: to get fourteen year olds to recruit other fourteen year olds.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, my listening audience i'd like to hope
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  Speaker 1: is along the same lines as I am. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if it's a Republican, A democrat is socialist and independent.
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  Speaker 1: If you're engaged in molesting children, you should be held accountable.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sorry. Sucks to be you. If you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, spent time with Ebstein, If you really didn't
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  Speaker 1: molest them, but you hung out with them a lot,
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  Speaker 1: you got advice from him. Sorry sucks to you. You're
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  Speaker 1: a public figure, you're outed. You can deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a bully pulpit in a form you can
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  Speaker 1: say Yeah I did talk to him. Yeah, we exchange
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  Speaker 1: text emails, but I had nothing to do with that. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: do what everybody else has to do. Go out and
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  Speaker 1: defend yourself like we're all stuck with doing. But it
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  Speaker 1: still doesn't answer the question of why did they in
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  Speaker 1: the face of what you're saying out loud, the victims
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  Speaker 1: are right there, we know all that. Yeah, why do
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  Speaker 1: they want to hide?
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  Speaker 2: Right? And I'm sorry if you're embarrassed by the release
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  Speaker 2: of these files, maybe you shouldn't got on a private
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  Speaker 2: jet and gone to his rape island.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, I agree, But are there are there
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  Speaker 1: no Democrats on this list? Because again they mean they
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  Speaker 1: were all about disclosing them as soon Trump got elected,
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  Speaker 1: and I see some of the more solacious deals involving Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: so they knew what they were getting into.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think we're past the era of Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton like it took with Biden now gone
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  Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton not really in the picture and Bill
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  Speaker 2: Clinton faded out. I think the Democrats were willing to
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  Speaker 2: do the Epstein stuff now they know there's Democrats in there.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the reality. There were politicians, there will be
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  Speaker 2: politicians and princes we know and ambassadors, political people, but
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  Speaker 2: there are billionaires in these files, and they transcend parties.
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  Speaker 2: The billionaires go look at their donation records, like the
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  Speaker 2: billionaires running running a candidate against me in Kentucky right now.
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  Speaker 2: They do fundraisers for Chuck Schumer. They max donate to
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, they give to Liz Cheney, and then they
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  Speaker 2: called them. They start a super pack called MAGA. Look,
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  Speaker 2: they have no party, they have no ideology, they have
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  Speaker 2: no allegiance. What they have is money and they assume
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  Speaker 2: they can buy a judge, they can buy a politician,
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  Speaker 2: they can buy a police department, or they can buy
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  Speaker 2: off victims and get record sealed. Because they have so
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  Speaker 2: much money, they're just used to operating above the law.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care if the president's got an R or
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  Speaker 2: a D next to his name. And these are the
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  Speaker 2: people that need to be brought to justice.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they do. Let's pause, We'll bring Congressman Thomas Massey back.
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  Speaker 1: It's eight fifteen right now, fifty five ker City talk station.
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  Speaker 1: It is something you really need to do. This is
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  Speaker 1: a time of year.
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  Speaker 3: The talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Eight nineteen here, fifty five KRCIT talk station. By the
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  Speaker 1: time it's with Congressman Thomas Massey, follow by judging of Politano.
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, real quick, Congressman Massy, you had mentioned I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was unusual. So we go through this whole
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  Speaker 1: Epstein thing. We have handful of documents, release, we get
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  Speaker 1: a little more documents. Release. Justice Department says there's nothing there.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats come out and release a couple of emails suggesting
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump was involved and knew about the girls, and
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then the Republicans come out,
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  Speaker 1: released twenty thousand pages. And I keep thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: what's the point of this exercise? Voting to release the documents?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone seems to have them, and they see them magically
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  Speaker 1: pop up at some politically opportune time. Have you seen
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  Speaker 1: the documents, because you mentioned they have seen them earlier
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  Speaker 1: in our conversation this morning. Have you seen the documents
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  Speaker 1: that are subject to this soon to be passed law.
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  Speaker 2: I have not, but I have particular insight into those documents,
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  Speaker 2: and let me tell you why. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get distracted. They say, we've released ten thousand documents,
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  Speaker 2: thirty thousand documents. We're going to release another fifty thousand documents.
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  Speaker 2: What they have failed to do so far is to
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  Speaker 2: release a single name. Like we know there are dozens
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  Speaker 2: of men who who took advantage of these women, raped them,
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  Speaker 2: participate in sex trafficking, and not a single name has
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  Speaker 2: come out. So they are carefully what they're doing. They
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  Speaker 2: are dipping a bucket in the well and bringing up
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  Speaker 2: the bucket and looking through the bucket. My bill says,
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  Speaker 2: give us the entire well. We want everything in the well. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what's the insight that I have into the the those documents?
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  Speaker 2: It comes from the survivors. The survivors got together. Now
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  Speaker 2: they are like a thousand victims, okay, but or survivors.
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  Speaker 2: Some have passed away, but they dub them, got together,
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  Speaker 2: compared notes and came up with at least twenty names
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  Speaker 2: that they know they've given to the FBI. Now, the
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  Speaker 2: FBI doesn't just forget when you give somebody a name,
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  Speaker 2: they write it down in a form called an FD
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  Speaker 2: three oh two. That's when they interview a witness. And
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  Speaker 2: so those names are in those FD three oh twos,
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  Speaker 2: at least twenty names. And I a cash Patel in
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  Speaker 2: a hearing. Have you looked at the three oh two files,
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  Speaker 2: and he admitted to me that he hadn't. And they said, well, then,
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  Speaker 2: how can you testify today that there are no other
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  Speaker 2: men implicated? He said, because I trust the people that
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  Speaker 2: work for me. Hold on a second, these are people
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  Speaker 2: that've been there twenty years. We don't trust any of them.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't elect Trump because we trusted the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: We elected Trump because we don't trust the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: And Trump put Cash, Batel and Dan Bongino in there
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  Speaker 2: because they said that would go after the deep state.
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  Speaker 2: And now they say they trust the guys that have
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  Speaker 2: already been working on this for you know, two decades. No,
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  Speaker 2: so be careful when they say we've released ten thousand
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  Speaker 2: or twenty thousand. Oh, when they say, oh, we found
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  Speaker 2: Trump's and this is not about Trump, everybody. The Dems
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  Speaker 2: try to make it about Trump, the Republicans try to
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  Speaker 2: make it about Trump's innocent, and Trump tries to make
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  Speaker 2: it about Trump. Oh, it's a hoax. It's not about Trump.
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  Speaker 2: It's about other rich and powerful men who are criminally
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  Speaker 2: implicated to say in these files.
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  Speaker 1: And you may have just pointed out the obvious reason
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  Speaker 1: why Cash Mattel, the Democrats or the Republicans and others
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  Speaker 1: maybe trying to protect what little reputation the FBI has
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  Speaker 1: at this point, because if those investigative files revealed that
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  Speaker 1: they talked to these men and there was some substance
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  Speaker 1: or credibility in connection with what the witnesses said, then
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  Speaker 1: there should have been some follow up by the FBI
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  Speaker 1: to go after these folks for molesting, raping underage girls.
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  Speaker 2: Correct included in these files. When you take them as
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  Speaker 2: a whole, you're going to find out that our justice
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  Speaker 2: system is broken and the FBI was corrupt. That's what
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  Speaker 2: you're going to find out.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Else you're going to find out Jeffrey Epstein was connected
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  Speaker 2: to the CIA and to Israeli intelligence. That's what else
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  Speaker 2: you're going to find out. Even the Speaker of the
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  Speaker 2: House in one of these rants yesterday admitted as much.
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  Speaker 2: He said, this was going to affect national secure already.
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  Speaker 2: You know, our intelligence simply is going to be exposed.
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  Speaker 2: It's fake. Wait hold on there, you're now you're supporting
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  Speaker 2: my My assertion be to Speaker Johnson that the intelligence
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  Speaker 2: agencies are implicated by a release of these files, which
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  Speaker 2: is true, by the way. Before before we run out
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  Speaker 2: of time. I know most of your listeners are in
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  Speaker 2: a car and they're driving. They're not going to have
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  Speaker 2: time to look at this. But there is information coming
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  Speaker 2: about coming out about the January sixth pipe bomber. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and it's pretty explosive. I went very deep into this.
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  Speaker 2: I researched it. I've interviewed witnesses. I've asked Christopher Ray
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  Speaker 2: about the pipe bomber. I asked the FBI in charge
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  Speaker 2: of the DC Field office about this investigation. We've got
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  Speaker 2: troves of documents. We wrote a report on this, but
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  Speaker 2: new information just came out today, well this week and
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  Speaker 2: then last week. You're remember the name Steve Baker and
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  Speaker 2: the Blaze and go look up what he's put out
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  Speaker 2: this week. Yes, it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one that it suggested it is an FBI agent,
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  Speaker 1: or rather Capitol Police officer that dropped off the bombs
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  Speaker 1: at the Republican and Democrat headquarters. Yes, and when that's
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  Speaker 1: the event that closed Capitol Hill. The bomb discovery was
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  Speaker 1: what it wasn't the drunken fraternity party that was going on.
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  Speaker 1: As I understand it, Congressman Masters.
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  Speaker 2: The pipe bomb thing was a ruse to distract police
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  Speaker 2: away from the Capitol so that it would be easier to
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  Speaker 2: breach the capitol. And it worked, and it worked, it blocked.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted more bicycle wrecks to come over to the Capitol,
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  Speaker 2: but where they stored them was on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of where the pipe bomb was discovered, and so the
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  Speaker 2: roads were closed down. They couldn't get him over there.
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  Speaker 2: So did some degree it worked. But what you're going
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  Speaker 2: to find out when you when you see so Steve
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  Speaker 2: Baker put out an article a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 2: I and he postulated that it was the Capitol Hill
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  Speaker 2: police officer who now works at the CIA who placed
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  Speaker 2: the pipe bombs. But I think his new information, which
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  Speaker 2: is video. He went through and poured through thousands of
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  Speaker 2: hours of video and found new information about the pipe
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  Speaker 2: bomber and the people who discovered the pipe bombs. It
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  Speaker 2: looks really fishy. They knew exactly where to go to
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  Speaker 2: find the pipe bombs. And we found out there's a
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  Speaker 2: third location of pipe bombs. We all assumed there were two.
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  Speaker 2: We found out there was a third where the pipe
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  Speaker 2: bomber lingered for over a minute and tried to place
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  Speaker 2: a pipe bomb. It looks like, well, the cops the
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  Speaker 2: next day went exactly to that spot and looked in
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  Speaker 2: that bush to try and find a pipe bomb. There's
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  Speaker 2: no way they could have seen the video from the
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  Speaker 2: night before, So it's almost as if there was a
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  Speaker 2: map of where the pipe bombs were going to be,
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  Speaker 2: and a pipe bomber didn't get the third pipe bomb placed,
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  Speaker 2: but the cops went and looked where the third pipe
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be. And it's all on.
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  Speaker 1: Video, all on video, and ultimately all this done presumably
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  Speaker 1: for the purpose of undermining Donald Trump, coordinated behind the scenes, coordinated.
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  Speaker 5: Not just Donald Trump, but an entire movement of people, yes,
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  Speaker 5: behind Donald Trump, to make the Republicans look like insane
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  Speaker 5: people that wanted to overthrow the government.
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  Speaker 1: Bombs and whatnot, well, and insane FBI agents who were
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  Speaker 1: egging people on in the crowd. They're breaking breach the
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  Speaker 1: Capitol and throw out the bike racks, et cetera. This
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  Speaker 1: has got huge legs in the meantime, blooming in the background,
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Massy the whole Arctic frost thing, which looks terrible
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  Speaker 1: as well, among others.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that the senators put half a million
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: dollars each for themselves who were the subject of Arctic
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Cross so that they can get payouts from being spied on.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Instead of fixing the law, they put that in the
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: CR that passed last week, and people are like, need
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you vote.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: For the CR?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Matthew, Why didn't you want to open the government. Because
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham and seven other Republicans in the Senate just
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: gave themselves half a million dollars, You and I wouldn't
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: have standing or able to prove damages. They just went
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: ahead and changed the laws. Yes, eight people have standing
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: and I can get half a million dollars in damages
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: for being spied.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: On self dealing. It's fully revealed, boy Congressman Thomas Massy,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: which we had longer to talk, I knew. Judge Jennita
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Poulton is waiting in the wings, one of your favorite fans. Congratulations,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: congratulations on stick to your guns in the face of
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: all that opposition. Congress and Massy, that's why we love
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you so much. Keep up the great work. I'll look
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: forward to having you back on as soon as possible,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and best wishes from my entire listening audience, my family,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: particularly on your wedding. I'm really happy for you, sir,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: so hope you enjoy that and as you move forward
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: in your life together, take care.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll press that onto my bride.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Please do, please do. I'm looking forward to meeting or
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: someday eight twenty eight judg Enita Polatano. He's waiting in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the wings. He's right there, will help him on just
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the moment after I mentioned thatim. We're heating and air
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: conditioning the best in the business.