Latest / The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine / 18 Perfect Alternative Music Albums
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- 0:30Speaker 1: Today, We've got a lot of friends. This might be
- 0:32Speaker 1: one of the bigger podcast episodes we've had in terms
- 0:35Speaker 1: of individual people that are on the podcast. Today, We've
- 0:39Speaker 1: got our friends, Ryan, Tim, David, and Kaylee, just a
- 0:45Speaker 1: whole crew. And I feel like it's maybe at least
- 0:48Speaker 1: worth mentioning that these are all friends mostly through furnace Fest, right, Like, Kaylee,
- 0:54Speaker 1: you and I are friends outside of furnace Fest, But
- 0:56Speaker 1: I think the rest of you all, I for both
- 1:00Speaker 1: Colin and I think we both only know each other
- 1:03Speaker 1: from furnace Fest, right am, I Me and Ryan were friends.
- 1:08Speaker 2: But that's that's yeah, that's it.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Yeah, through a mutual friends.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:11Speaker 5: I I listened to your Theology podcast, Mason when I
- 1:17Speaker 5: was more of a Christian and then we also have
- 1:20Speaker 5: a mutual I r L friends.
- 1:23Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I will say. But my Theology podcast
- 1:26Speaker 1: is really a great podcast for those that actually want
- 1:28Speaker 1: to leave Christianity.
- 1:30Speaker 5: It works, it works, a great job, it's a great
- 1:34Speaker 5: it's it's a good, great doorway for those just on
- 1:37Speaker 5: their way out.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Already doing my best, doing my best. Well, this episode
- 1:45Speaker 1: actually funny enough, even though this is these are a
- 1:48Speaker 1: lot of furnace Fest friends. We're actually not going to
- 1:50Speaker 1: talk about furnace fest at all unless for some reason antadotically,
- 1:55Speaker 1: if that's how you pronounce it, unless that comes up.
- 1:58Speaker 1: So Colin, do you want to give a little bit
- 2:00Speaker 1: of an introduction to what we're going to do today?
- 2:03Speaker 2: Yeah? Do we want to introduce everybody first? Do you
- 2:05Speaker 2: want them to introduce themselves?
- 2:06Speaker 3: Oh?
- 2:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose we probably should let everybody introduce themselves.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So Ryan, you're the very first person on my screen,
- 2:13Speaker 1: So say Hi Ryan.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Hey, Hi Ryan. It's a homelone joke.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Tell us, tell us who you are, what's your about?
- 2:19Speaker 2: What's your background there? Ryan?
- 2:22Speaker 3: I grew up pretty close to y'all in Oldham, South Dakota,
- 2:25Speaker 3: on a farm, not in Oldham.
- 2:28Speaker 1: But I thought Oldham was just a farm.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much people. There's not much going on out there.
- 2:33Speaker 3: So I do have a knock to loose hoodie now
- 2:36Speaker 3: that's at Oldham on the front, even though it's not
- 2:37Speaker 3: the same old Ham. But still it's in Camo too,
- 2:40Speaker 3: so it's pretty appropriate for out there.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Nic This is perfect.
- 2:43Speaker 3: But yeah, I grew up listening a lot of CCM,
- 2:46Speaker 3: a lot of oldies of my parents, a lot of
- 2:47Speaker 3: Christian radio and got into this kind of stuff a
- 2:51Speaker 3: little bit more like I don't know what you gonna
- 2:52Speaker 3: call it, the tooth and nail scene through like some
- 2:54Speaker 3: Christian like video shows and like the early two thousands.
- 2:58Speaker 2: My favorite thing about is first time we met and
- 3:02Speaker 2: then the second time we met, it was literally just
- 3:05Speaker 2: can I stump Ryan with my music knowledge? And can
- 3:07Speaker 2: he stump me with his music knowledge? It was it
- 3:10Speaker 2: was it was the Cold War knockdown, Craig out. We
- 3:14Speaker 2: were having proxy wars even we were inviting all of
- 3:16Speaker 2: our friends to see if they could stump us. It
- 3:18Speaker 2: was a good time. Yeah, yeah, and uh yeah.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I do think if there's anybody who I don't, maybe
- 3:28Speaker 1: you guys all watch a show called Stump the Schwab.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It was like a sports radio game and it was
- 3:34Speaker 1: like you like, all these contestants competed against one guy
- 3:37Speaker 1: who just happened to know every fucking stat you could
- 3:39Speaker 1: have ever imagined. I feel like Ryan and I are like,
- 3:42Speaker 1: who's going to compete to be the schwab for the Chariot?
- 3:46Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, right, I think I think you're
- 3:49Speaker 1: the schwab of the Chariot.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I don't know yeah, he's humble. He's humble, guys, all right.
- 3:56Speaker 6: Kayley, I'm Kaylee. I am Director of Communications and Digital
- 4:03Speaker 6: Outreach for the Center for Prophetic Imagination, which basically means
- 4:07Speaker 6: I'd make a whole lot of digital content. But music wise,
- 4:12Speaker 6: I grew up as like the rebellious Christian kid because
- 4:15Speaker 6: I listened to a thousand pit Crutch. If just just to.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Put you.
- 4:22Speaker 6: Give you like a sense of the conservativeness that I
- 4:27Speaker 6: grew up in, like other than me that the hardest
- 4:31Speaker 6: music that like a Christian person would listen to is
- 4:34Speaker 6: like super Tones or something. So like my my upbringing
- 4:41Speaker 6: was very very placid, I would say, but I did,
- 4:44Speaker 6: like I discovered Under Oath and Demon Hunter, Dead Poetic.
- 4:49Speaker 6: It's still very yeah good bands eventually. Thus Crutches a
- 4:53Speaker 6: good band, it's gonna say.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Speaking of thousand foot Crutch, I used to have a
- 4:57Speaker 1: running gig with a friend of mine who also grew
- 4:59Speaker 1: up in the tooth and nail world. Uh And this
- 5:01Speaker 1: friend also does, like does drake queen stuff, And we
- 5:05Speaker 1: were thinking one day of like what would be a
- 5:08Speaker 1: like drag queen names that like are tooth and nail inspired.
- 5:12Speaker 1: And now I'm just I'm just realizing now you could
- 5:15Speaker 1: do rock fisting, rock fist or cockfist. That would be
- 5:20Speaker 1: so anyway. I'm just realizing that.
- 5:28Speaker 5: David, Hello, I like intro a thousand foot cocky, Right.
- 5:38Speaker 3: I do that?
- 5:40Speaker 5: Somebody that's the first thing to ack knowledge about me.
- 5:45Speaker 4: I wish I did.
- 5:48Speaker 5: But I feel like the second I just got on
- 5:51Speaker 5: this like call, I was just like, they're just gonna
- 5:54Speaker 5: be expecting insane ship. I don't know what's gonna happen.
- 5:56Speaker 5: But I just confirmed the thought that I had right
- 6:00Speaker 5: off the bat. But uh, yeah, I am David Lawrence.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Colin in particular always likes to remind me that I've
- 6:08Speaker 5: taken lots of nude photos of people.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just jealous, that's it.
- 6:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a full time portrait photographer and music nerd
- 6:20Speaker 5: and just all around lover of humans and being alive.
- 6:25Speaker 4: I'm like a big old golden retriever.
- 6:30Speaker 2: That's a great description retriever.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Yeah, I should put that in my Tinder bio.
- 6:36Speaker 4: I got I got broken over the holidays. Would you say.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Dirt as well?
- 6:44Speaker 3: No?
- 6:45Speaker 4: I should, I probably should be.
- 6:48Speaker 5: But what I was gonna what I was gonna say
- 6:51Speaker 5: us these are all great things like add to my
- 6:52Speaker 5: tender bio. So I'm really appreciative of this time and space.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Thank you guys, mi Lord bless you.
- 7:01Speaker 3: It's a workshop.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And last but not least, Tim, who are you in
- 7:06Speaker 1: the world?
- 7:07Speaker 7: Oh gosh, what am I not in the world? So
- 7:09Speaker 7: I am Tim. I am a licensed professional counselor, and
- 7:16Speaker 7: so from a day to job I get to listen
- 7:18Speaker 7: to people talk all the time. So it's fun to
- 7:20Speaker 7: get to talk about stuff. I want to talk about.
- 7:23Speaker 1: What what what kind of like diagnoses? Would you give David
- 7:27Speaker 1: right now?
- 7:28Speaker 7: I wouldn't I actually right now.
- 7:32Speaker 5: When I was basically this is what people do all
- 7:34Speaker 5: the time, I'd say, I'm a counselor.
- 7:35Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, diagnose me.
- 7:37Speaker 4: I have paperwork right now. If you want to hear those,
- 7:43Speaker 4: let me shut you know, I have paperwork.
- 7:47Speaker 3: When I was.
- 7:49Speaker 5: Yeah, So when I was going through a divorce many
- 7:53Speaker 5: moons ago, I had a Christian therapist who brought up
- 7:58Speaker 5: that I might be on the autism spectrum because I
- 8:01Speaker 5: was just saying so much outland to shit and that
- 8:03Speaker 5: was really detrimental to my marriage at the time, which
- 8:07Speaker 5: is a whole other podcast. So I went and ate
- 8:10Speaker 5: eight hundred dollars to go get a neurological test, and
- 8:14Speaker 5: they were like, you don't have autism, You're just insane.
- 8:18Speaker 5: And so what what I got back was general anxiety
- 8:24Speaker 5: disorder OCD ADHD.
- 8:29Speaker 4: And depression.
- 8:30Speaker 5: And they also said in one of the linear notes
- 8:33Speaker 5: that I showed small, small signs of narcissism. So I'm
- 8:40Speaker 5: very aware of all of my diagnoses. I have way
- 8:43Speaker 5: too many. This podcast is insane.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Everything but them, but not the tism.
- 8:49Speaker 4: I don't have the tism, and I have paperwork to
- 8:51Speaker 4: prove it.
- 8:55Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's my day, Joe. Sorry, that's okay. It
- 8:58Speaker 7: happens all the time. People know, they can talk when
- 9:00Speaker 7: I'm sitting here.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:02Speaker 7: So my music thing, so you know, grew up in
- 9:05Speaker 7: church youth group, and I think my like introduction, so
- 9:09Speaker 7: my introduction to like music, like the good music was
- 9:13Speaker 7: like I like hit the like Stephen Curtis Chapman trained
- 9:17Speaker 7: pretty hard as a kid, like man, fantastic are.
- 9:21Speaker 6: You down and in what did you get down in?
- 9:24Speaker 6: On Stephen concert?
- 9:27Speaker 7: Indeed, oh, Carmen was my first concert. Oh yeah yeah
- 9:32Speaker 7: good third day but like we're third.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Day nice, which went.
- 9:38Speaker 7: From him, was I think let me see what happened. Anyway.
- 9:43Speaker 7: My claim to fame. The thing that I love the most,
- 9:45Speaker 7: the people I got to see earliest in their career
- 9:48Speaker 7: was a reliant case show in the basement of forest
- 9:53Speaker 7: for Debt Methodist Church in Hurricane, West Virginia. That's spelled
- 9:55Speaker 7: Hurricane said Hurricane Hurricane West Virginia. Nobody knew who they were, like,
- 10:01Speaker 7: they're like, I think this was before, maybe at right
- 10:05Speaker 7: after their first album came out, and it was just
- 10:08Speaker 7: it was amazing. It was so loud, couldn't hear a
- 10:10Speaker 7: word he was singing, but it was just great.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson ate his girlfriend his girlfriend.
- 10:18Speaker 6: Yeah, so that song did not age well just.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I mean just saying he was one of the first
- 10:26Speaker 1: people to villainize Marilyn. He was actually a prophet in
- 10:30Speaker 1: our midst that.
- 10:31Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, but I don't know, having a song about
- 10:37Speaker 6: violence against women and then then it would be true,
- 10:42Speaker 6: So maybe I guess it did age very well.
- 10:44Speaker 1: He was he was just speaking the truth.
- 10:46Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and then you know, from there, five Iron
- 10:52Speaker 7: was sort of my gateway into the bigger music world,
- 10:55Speaker 7: which is kind of funny to say, but yeah, that's
- 10:58Speaker 7: fun that's.
- 11:00Speaker 1: It, all right, all right, Well, so you're not here
- 11:03Speaker 1: to talk about Christian music though, right, not or not
- 11:06Speaker 1: necessarily Christian music.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Or or David's diagnoses.
- 11:11Speaker 4: Mental health diagnosis.
- 11:14Speaker 2: We are here to discuss perfect albums now. Mason and
- 11:20Speaker 2: I have this conversation all the time, and I've had
- 11:24Speaker 2: this conversation with a few other people as well. There's
- 11:27Speaker 2: a difference between your favorite albums and your perfect albums.
- 11:33Speaker 2: You know, you can, you can. You can look at
- 11:35Speaker 2: a at any Beatles record, right. Beatles are probably my
- 11:39Speaker 2: favorite band of all time. But they don't have a
- 11:43Speaker 2: perfect record. They don't have they don't have one that's
- 11:45Speaker 2: really even close to a perfect record. So what makes
- 11:47Speaker 2: a perfect record? Perfect record is an album that, first
- 11:52Speaker 2: of all, is not one of your favorite albums. Second
- 11:55Speaker 2: of all, it has to be all killer, no filler.
- 11:58Speaker 2: That means no interludes, That means no no like Chancey songs,
- 12:05Speaker 2: no no skits, no skits. Yeah, so like Outcast Love Below, right,
- 12:11Speaker 2: great album, but you get all these like weird like
- 12:14Speaker 2: little skits that are in between half the songs. So
- 12:17Speaker 2: not really conducive to what we would consider a perfect album.
- 12:22Speaker 2: So all killer, no filler, high artistic quality, great lyrical content.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Not a single note is really even out of place
- 12:29Speaker 2: in the entire album. Generally it has to be five
- 12:33Speaker 2: years old longer or older. It has to be timeless.
- 12:36Speaker 2: So we're not referencing pagers or anything like that.
- 12:40Speaker 3: We are.
- 12:41Speaker 2: We're talking about albums that keep it timeless in terms
- 12:47Speaker 2: of its content specifically. I mean, obviously, if you have
- 12:50Speaker 2: like eighty synth pop and that's like your jam, that's
- 12:54Speaker 2: perfectly fine, right, But if they start talking about their
- 12:58Speaker 2: you know, their eighty nine corvette in their blue collar
- 13:04Speaker 2: job and greed is good, Well, now we got a problem.
- 13:06Speaker 2: It actually has to be an actual album. Can't be
- 13:09Speaker 2: a compilation, can't be a soundtrack, can't be a musical,
- 13:12Speaker 2: nothing of that sort. So no Wow two thousand and
- 13:15Speaker 2: four for us here, unfortunately, and then we exclude Hamilton,
- 13:22Speaker 2: like that would exclude Hamilton.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Yes.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Also, Man, if my students are so obsessed with Hamilton
- 13:28Speaker 2: right now, I can't. I don't like Hamilton. I love musicals,
- 13:33Speaker 2: but I don't like Hamilton. That's a side story. That's
- 13:35Speaker 2: another podcast, right, David. Also, I kind of thought of
- 13:38Speaker 2: like one like last stipulation. It's not like a hard
- 13:40Speaker 2: and fast thing. But it is something that I've found
- 13:43Speaker 2: to be true. This is typically one of your most
- 13:45Speaker 2: listened to albums. It's one of those albums that you
- 13:48Speaker 2: have countless hours on. But when you think of those
- 13:52Speaker 2: albums when someone asks you, hey, what are your favorite albums,
- 13:56Speaker 2: it almost never comes to the surface first, even though
- 13:59Speaker 2: you have tons, tons and tons of time with it.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Right, So.
- 14:04Speaker 2: That's kind of the basis of of our our our
- 14:09Speaker 2: perfect albums. It's a completely different distinction from your favorite albums.
- 14:14Speaker 2: So does anyone have any issues with those parameters?
- 14:20Speaker 1: No, just the person that's telling me the parameters.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm going to say it I'm
- 14:29Speaker 2: not upset that you broke your elbow.
- 14:34Speaker 4: I gotta say I have no issues.
- 14:36Speaker 5: I mean, I got a lot of issues, but I
- 14:39Speaker 5: clearly have favor work whole list. But I have no
- 14:47Speaker 5: issues with what you said.
- 14:48Speaker 4: But what I was going to say is I texted
- 14:51Speaker 4: Colon Colon and our whole group.
- 14:53Speaker 5: Chat this whole week just in a panic because I
- 14:58Speaker 5: just couldn't mess up this.
- 14:59Speaker 2: As I meant, like, I couldn't tell you had anxiety
- 15:02Speaker 2: at all.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really struggling to define what a perfect
- 15:07Speaker 5: album meant and how it was different from my favorite albums.
- 15:11Speaker 4: But Colin really like stepped up as a teacher. He
- 15:15Speaker 4: used his gifts to the Lord.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Has given him.
- 15:17Speaker 4: He helped tired it all out and it was all good.
- 15:21Speaker 4: But I just wanted to say how much of a
- 15:23Speaker 4: struggle it was.
- 15:23Speaker 5: Like I was like I was listening hard to stuff
- 15:26Speaker 5: this week, like I was fucking nervous.
- 15:29Speaker 6: David Fair, It's still hard. I don't know I figured
- 15:33Speaker 6: out yet.
- 15:34Speaker 5: I took one of them off the list as you
- 15:36Speaker 5: were talking, and I was just like, well, there goes one.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Haven't I have an honorable mentions list?
- 15:43Speaker 2: That's okay, that's good. You should have a pretty good,
- 15:45Speaker 2: healthy list of an honorable mention. But I do want
- 15:48Speaker 2: to say in this place, we do hard things, okay,
- 15:52Speaker 2: and we can do hard things, and listening and being
- 15:56Speaker 2: anxious about this is is perfectly fine.
- 15:58Speaker 1: David.
- 15:58Speaker 4: We we just got to work through this, you know, amen, brother, Amen,
- 16:02Speaker 4: you're not You're.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Not on a raft alone. We will we will throw
- 16:05Speaker 2: you a lifeline. Let's do this thing, all right. So
- 16:11Speaker 2: here's the here's the order. Mason, Ryan, Tim, David Kaylee
- 16:18Speaker 2: and then myself. We're gonna try to get to three
- 16:21Speaker 2: total albums. So what we're gonna do is say the
- 16:23Speaker 2: album first, and then basically we'll kind of discuss it all.
- 16:27Speaker 2: And uh, I don't want this to be like super
- 16:30Speaker 2: confrontational or anything. Mason usually likes to make them confrontational,
- 16:33Speaker 2: but this one, we're just friends hanging out, so.
- 16:36Speaker 1: This isn't supposed to be a competitive one.
- 16:37Speaker 2: So I, yeah, it's not competitive, so oddly chill good.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to my feet. So I've got
- 16:42Speaker 3: some notes ahead of time to say a few things too,
- 16:44Speaker 3: so great.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Good deal. Yeah, and yeah, and then I was gonna say, say,
- 16:47Speaker 2: say a few things about about each album and why
- 16:50Speaker 2: you think it falls into the perfect album category. Mason,
- 16:56Speaker 2: You're up, Doug.
- 16:58Speaker 3: You know.
- 16:58Speaker 1: So I'm taking this assignment more so just because I,
- 17:03Speaker 1: you know, with Colin and I hosting this podcast, I
- 17:06Speaker 1: feel like I'm constantly talking about musicians and albums all
- 17:10Speaker 1: the time, and so if you're a longtime listener of
- 17:14Speaker 1: this podcast, you probably have a good sense of a
- 17:17Speaker 1: lot of the artists and albums that I'm really into.
- 17:19Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to take it in a little
- 17:21Speaker 1: bit different direction where I'm going to talk about, certainly
- 17:24Speaker 1: albums that I think are perfect albums through and through.
- 17:27Speaker 1: But I'm definitely going to talk about artists that I
- 17:29Speaker 1: don't think I really bring up very often on this podcast. Okay,
- 17:33Speaker 1: So these are artists or albums in particular that I
- 17:37Speaker 1: think most people would be like, wait, you listen to that,
- 17:40Speaker 1: You listen to that artist, you listen to that album
- 17:42Speaker 1: like I'm, I'm. That's sort of the route that I'm taking.
- 17:44Speaker 1: So the first one, maybe genre wise, I don't think
- 17:48Speaker 1: most people would realize, like most people wouldn't be a
- 17:50Speaker 1: little surprised by. But they are certainly one of my
- 17:52Speaker 1: favorite bands of all time, and I just feel like
- 17:55Speaker 1: I don't really talk about them enough on this podcast,
- 17:58Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't think I really talk
- 18:00Speaker 1: about them enough generally. But the album came out in
- 18:04Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so I think it might be one of
- 18:07Speaker 1: the more recent albums. But the album is called We
- 18:10Speaker 1: Already Lost the World by Birds in Row. This is
- 18:14Speaker 1: an album that came out in twenty nineteen, I think
- 18:16Speaker 1: probably around that time or maybe twenty twenty. Yeah, I
- 18:19Speaker 1: think it was twenty nineteen or actually, no, thinking about
- 18:21Speaker 1: I think it came out in twenty eighteen.
- 18:24Speaker 2: I think.
- 18:24Speaker 3: So were they on the Chariot Farewell tour?
- 18:26Speaker 2: They were, they.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Were very early on in their history. Yeah, yeah, they
- 18:29Speaker 1: were on that farewell tour.
- 18:31Speaker 3: But yeah, if I saw I think I said that
- 18:33Speaker 3: hirld I to drive up from swo Balls that afternoon.
- 18:35Speaker 1: So yeah, they're French, right, Yeah, they're from France. Yeah,
- 18:38Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the reason why they
- 18:40Speaker 1: don't have as much of a following in the US.
- 18:43Speaker 1: I think they have a much bigger following in Europe,
- 18:46Speaker 1: but they are that album in particular, like I will,
- 18:50Speaker 1: I listen to that album for sure, at least once
- 18:53Speaker 1: a month for the last however many like seven years now.
- 18:58Speaker 1: It's just truly one of my favorite album of all time.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I think it's an absolute perfect album. And uh yeah,
- 19:04Speaker 1: they just don't get enough credit. They had an album
- 19:06Speaker 1: that came out a couple of years ago that I
- 19:08Speaker 1: thought was really good, But this album in particular, I
- 19:11Speaker 1: just truly think from top to bottom is a perfect album,
- 19:15Speaker 1: even like the last song and you know, Colin, you
- 19:17Speaker 1: and I talked about this recently on an on an
- 19:19Speaker 1: episode where the closer of an album seems to really
- 19:22Speaker 1: matter a lot to us, And this album has one
- 19:26Speaker 1: of the best closers I've ever heard. And so it's
- 19:29Speaker 1: just to me, like top to bottom, a perfect album.
- 19:31Speaker 1: It's got the right mix. To me, the way that
- 19:33Speaker 1: it sequenced, that each track is sequenced is just perfect.
- 19:37Speaker 1: So I just think it's a perfect album.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I fully agree it's It's definitely one that has
- 19:42Speaker 2: great dynamics and it moves in directions that you don't
- 19:45Speaker 2: necessarily expect. And now I'm a huge fan good Pick Base.
- 19:53Speaker 3: I was named to my library already. I'll check it out.
- 19:56Speaker 1: It is so good.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Ryan, you are up next?
- 19:59Speaker 3: Ma man, uh this is that? Hey? What's up? This
- 20:04Speaker 3: is one that I encountered on a thing called Tenmost Wanted.
- 20:07Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys watched that at all
- 20:08Speaker 3: or not back in the day. Oh, there's to be a.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Is this like the show that used to be on
- 20:12Speaker 2: like CBS And they're like, it has like pictures of
- 20:15Speaker 2: like terrorists and stuff like that, And they're like, is
- 20:18Speaker 2: that what you mean, America? No, for real, I'm asking
- 20:22Speaker 2: for real? Is that is that what you No?
- 20:23Speaker 3: No, it's not this. This is a Christian music video
- 20:25Speaker 3: show that was on. It was on Direct TV on
- 20:27Speaker 3: Saturday nights that we had, but I think it was
- 20:29Speaker 3: actually like a standalone's like satellite service for a while too.
- 20:32Speaker 3: It's called sky Angel. I don't know if you guys
- 20:34Speaker 3: have heard of that or not. I knew like one
- 20:36Speaker 3: person that I went to college with and had it
- 20:37Speaker 3: at their house. It was just like TBN and that
- 20:39Speaker 3: kind of crap. So but this album is a no
- 20:42Speaker 3: sir alum's not practical by show brand.
- 20:45Speaker 2: He brought and he brought evidence. I love this.
- 20:48Speaker 3: He's got receipts I forget. That'd be fun. I got
- 20:50Speaker 3: the CD two I got back in the day. I
- 20:52Speaker 3: got a little story about that I'll tell in a
- 20:53Speaker 3: second or two. But uh yeah, so this is one
- 20:55Speaker 3: I encountered on tenmost wanted that was. There's an I
- 20:57Speaker 3: think called the Video Zone that this other guy that's
- 20:59Speaker 3: reference for about the Chariot. So that was a fun
- 21:01Speaker 3: time too. I saw the video for the company to
- 21:03Speaker 3: come for with the Grave. But let me put my
- 21:06Speaker 3: notes here. So yeah, this one's got some great cohesion.
- 21:08Speaker 3: I don't think I thought about it to not that
- 21:10Speaker 3: long ago. But like the beginning of this album is
- 21:11Speaker 3: like kind of a telephone conversation and then like the
- 21:13Speaker 3: outro of the last song is like a dial tone
- 21:15Speaker 3: like going off hook, which is really cool, so sort
- 21:17Speaker 3: of like closes the loop, not exactly, kind of like
- 21:20Speaker 3: there's a couple alums where it's basically you put it
- 21:22Speaker 3: on shuffle or not shuffle, but you put it on
- 21:23Speaker 3: repeat and like the albums just to circle, I think
- 21:25Speaker 3: like one of the David Crowder albums is like the
- 21:27Speaker 3: I Recall. But so there's really a lot of really
- 21:30Speaker 3: cool interstitials and like extended outros. There's like a chainsaw
- 21:33Speaker 3: noise before like dead by Dawn kind of like with
- 21:35Speaker 3: the whole evil dead motif on that song. So that's
- 21:39Speaker 3: a lot of fun. So there's like an orchestra getting
- 21:41Speaker 3: in tune on one. There's like an insect invasion thing
- 21:44Speaker 3: going on later in the album with like like some
- 21:45Speaker 3: bombs going off and stuff too. But yeah, this one,
- 21:48Speaker 3: the lyrics are pretty crazy. I'm not a huge lyric
- 21:50Speaker 3: person usually, especially with like hard vocals. It's hard to
- 21:53Speaker 3: get into that sometimes too, But it's fun on this
- 21:55Speaker 3: one because Ivory and Josh are both like they do
- 21:58Speaker 3: they both do lead vocals, but they both do hard
- 21:59Speaker 3: vocal and clean vocals too, so that's kind of a unique,
- 22:03Speaker 3: I think to this one more so than some of
- 22:05Speaker 3: our stuff as well, or I'll see the other bands
- 22:07Speaker 3: as well, but else I got here, So yeah, when
- 22:10Speaker 3: I woked to go buy the CD, I heard the
- 22:12Speaker 3: song mouth like a magazine on this show, and so
- 22:14Speaker 3: I got pretty catchy. It's got some like hard vocals,
- 22:16Speaker 3: and this is probably the first I think, like album
- 22:19Speaker 3: I bought with like probably pretty hard vocals, And I
- 22:21Speaker 3: remember I bought that the same day I about the
- 22:23Speaker 3: CD that I have here, and I bought this album
- 22:25Speaker 3: by the Osci Supertones is their greatest at the same time,
- 22:28Speaker 3: and I remember checking out the albums and like I
- 22:31Speaker 3: think I kind of got scared with the show Bird
- 22:33Speaker 3: album a little bit, and like Milsten mostly at the
- 22:35Speaker 3: time to the great hits by the super Tones, and
- 22:38Speaker 3: ended up really liking obviously like the Showbird album a
- 22:41Speaker 3: lot more within a year or so or however long
- 22:43Speaker 3: that took. But that was a Crossroads and two Falls,
- 22:45Speaker 3: if any of you.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Guys, Crossroads and.
- 22:49Speaker 3: The Christian Books Star So yeah, especially the song Samsa
- 22:53Speaker 3: Meets Kafka, which is like really embrasive and brush and
- 22:57Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff. So yeah, it's a really long
- 22:59Speaker 3: album too, which is kind of cool for something that's uh,
- 23:01Speaker 3: that's good and uh there's some reale roper guests vocals
- 23:05Speaker 3: to on a couple of songs, and different dynamics in
- 23:08Speaker 3: terms of like some really like kind of like our
- 23:11Speaker 3: heartfelt like clean vocal stuff. Yeah, there's it's just a
- 23:14Speaker 3: lot of variety, but it's all over the place in
- 23:16Speaker 3: a good way.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think you said it right. It's cohesive.
- 23:19Speaker 2: It's it's the kind of album that when you put
- 23:21Speaker 2: it on, you want to listen to the whole thing,
- 23:23Speaker 2: even if you were just hoping for like a little
- 23:25Speaker 2: taste or you just wanted like a little snack of of.
- 23:30Speaker 3: The singles or yeah, like a magazine.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as you hear one song, like all right,
- 23:33Speaker 2: and I don't want to listen to the rest of
- 23:34Speaker 2: the album.
- 23:35Speaker 3: You know, it's like watching the movie on cable or something.
- 23:37Speaker 3: You kind of are in for a penny, in for
- 23:38Speaker 3: a pound at some point.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm usually there for the Pepsi commercials, but dude,
- 23:45Speaker 2: very very well done. I I I agree completely. Anyone
- 23:48Speaker 2: else got anything to add to to No certain nihilism.
- 23:52Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that the David Crowder band album
- 23:55Speaker 7: that did that was Requiem. That was the one that
- 23:57Speaker 7: I love it.
- 24:00Speaker 2: That's such a that's a very creative thing for a
- 24:02Speaker 2: David Crowder type band to do. That's interesting.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Is that the last one or is that the one
- 24:07Speaker 3: that has like, uh I saw the light on it?
- 24:09Speaker 7: I think that's the last one that they did as
- 24:11Speaker 7: a band, Like, yeah, very nice.
- 24:14Speaker 3: All right.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Next up is Tim the tool Person Taylor.
- 24:20Speaker 7: All Right, So uh okay, so I've got a couple,
- 24:29Speaker 7: but I'm gonna start off with the one that I
- 24:31Speaker 7: really think like has proven itself to be timeless. Billy
- 24:35Speaker 7: Joel's The Stranger. Oh, fantastic album. Like that's one that
- 24:41Speaker 7: like you can start and be like I'm listening to
- 24:43Speaker 7: the whole thing.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
- 24:45Speaker 3: Right.
- 24:46Speaker 7: My first experience with this album was my parents' basement,
- 24:52Speaker 7: probably college, and like they had just bought it as
- 24:56Speaker 7: like as one of the big old record players. She
- 24:58Speaker 7: didn't even get it like a you place. My dad
- 25:00Speaker 7: bought it because he like bought random stuff, and so
- 25:03Speaker 7: he bought this thing. And there's a bunch of records
- 25:04Speaker 7: that he also bought at the record store and that
- 25:06Speaker 7: happened to be one. It's like, huh, let me listen
- 25:08Speaker 7: to this. I just listened to the whole thing, and
- 25:11Speaker 7: I think there were points as it's going where I'm
- 25:14Speaker 7: like feeling tears coming to my eyes. I'm like a
- 25:15Speaker 7: couple of songs that like maybe heard parts of before,
- 25:18Speaker 7: is like oldies or whatever. But I was like, this
- 25:21Speaker 7: is good, Like this is like no skips. I want
- 25:24Speaker 7: to I want to listen to that again. And I
- 25:25Speaker 7: think I ended up listening to it like three times
- 25:27Speaker 7: in a row, like that night.
- 25:31Speaker 1: It was just that good.
- 25:31Speaker 7: I was like, man, this is fantastic. I don't think
- 25:34Speaker 7: there's any skips on that, and it's just like lots
- 25:38Speaker 7: of cool stuff. Like I was like, this feels like
- 25:41Speaker 7: somebody could have like written and recorded this yesterday, right
- 25:44Speaker 7: in terms of like what he does, like the recording
- 25:47Speaker 7: techniques and just the different I don't know, like you
- 25:49Speaker 7: know you ought to know by now like you can
- 25:53Speaker 7: somebody starts saying he was like, oh, yeah, I know
- 25:55Speaker 7: that song right. It's just like there's nothing hokey about it,
- 25:57Speaker 7: which I think is really cool. Like sometimes I feel
- 25:59Speaker 7: like like music like top forty hits and things like that.
- 26:04Speaker 7: It's like it's kind of hokey a little whatever, but
- 26:06Speaker 7: this is like there's no moment of that. I also
- 26:09Speaker 7: think it's cool that this kind of like a concept album,
- 26:12Speaker 7: Like he's not just writing, he's like kind of writing
- 26:14Speaker 7: from a particular perspective too, Right, So it's a character,
- 26:18Speaker 7: a couple of characters. I don't know, but that was
- 26:20Speaker 7: definitely one that came to mind. I was like, I
- 26:22Speaker 7: don't really listen to that, but like somebody put that on,
- 26:25Speaker 7: I would sit down and just listen.
- 26:27Speaker 1: For sure.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I love that one. I love that one a lot.
- 26:30Speaker 2: I think that's uh. I think that's one of those
- 26:33Speaker 2: records that it doesn't matter who you are, it's it's
- 26:35Speaker 2: it's completely universal, you know, and you do kind of
- 26:38Speaker 2: fall into that character that the stranger that he talks about.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a lot of nostalgia for the opener
- 26:45Speaker 3: moving out. When I worked to the post office for
- 26:47Speaker 3: viewers after I was in college, it was on the
- 26:48Speaker 3: radio a lot. I think I hadn't heard that one before.
- 26:51Speaker 3: I was familiar with like some of the other big
- 26:52Speaker 3: ones that his before that, but I hadn't heard that song.
- 26:54Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just yeah, I don't know, I actually want.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I think that's Billy Joel's best song personally.
- 26:59Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a song called Souvenir. I like
- 27:03Speaker 3: a lot of his. It's really shorts. It's on a
- 27:04Speaker 3: different album that I really liked by him. I think
- 27:07Speaker 3: it was an episode of How I Met Your Mother's
- 27:08Speaker 3: Why I Encountered It First? Pretty good.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Unrelated to the album, I'm just seeing on Billy Joel's
- 27:15Speaker 1: Wikipedia page that he graduated high school twenty five years later?
- 27:22Speaker 1: What forty three? Really? Because he had a miss English exam?
- 27:28Speaker 1: He was he was awarded his high school diploma.
- 27:31Speaker 3: Twenty five years later, he received an honorary high school diploma.
- 27:38Speaker 1: The funny thing is he's actually it looks like he's
- 27:40Speaker 1: received how many is this? It looks like seven honorary
- 27:44Speaker 1: doctor degrees.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Though probably before he had his high school diploma.
- 27:49Speaker 1: That's actually right, She's like Jill Biden exactly.
- 27:54Speaker 2: I love it all right. Next up is David thousand
- 28:00Speaker 2: foot male appendage brother.
- 28:03Speaker 4: I appreciate you keeping that PG. That was nice.
- 28:06Speaker 5: There's a lot of a lot of families and children
- 28:09Speaker 5: that are probably gonna listen to this show.
- 28:10Speaker 1: And this is a Christian music podcast.
- 28:12Speaker 4: That was Yeah, that was really thoughtful of you, Colon.
- 28:14Speaker 2: You learn how to do that when you talk to
- 28:16Speaker 2: high schoolers all.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Day long and you have an him audience.
- 28:20Speaker 5: I just talked to myself all day long, ninety percent
- 28:22Speaker 5: of my existence, just alone in my apartment with my computer,
- 28:26Speaker 5: and like, yeah, so.
- 28:30Speaker 4: We're doing two right?
- 28:32Speaker 1: Was that the just do one right now?
- 28:33Speaker 4: Okay?
- 28:33Speaker 2: Yeah, just one.
- 28:35Speaker 4: I'm gonna save.
- 28:38Speaker 5: My favorite one for last then, but the secondary one
- 28:43Speaker 5: of the two that I have would be hold on
- 28:48Speaker 5: the season by All get Out?
- 28:51Speaker 1: Oh and I'll get out.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Wow.
- 28:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:53Speaker 5: I feel like like they're like popular ish, but like
- 28:58Speaker 5: still like super underrated.
- 29:00Speaker 4: When the last As Cities.
- 29:01Speaker 5: Burned album came out in yeah, maybe two thousand and seventeen,
- 29:05Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, I don't know, it was a while ago.
- 29:09Speaker 5: It might have been twenty nineteen. I think it was
- 29:11Speaker 5: actually before, like right before the world shut down. But
- 29:13Speaker 5: they did a tour and All Get Out opened up
- 29:17Speaker 5: and it massively flopped.
- 29:19Speaker 4: Like the I remember like Cody, like the singer from Mat.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Cities burn was like super pissed because like the promoters
- 29:26Speaker 5: didn't like promote it and like they would play like
- 29:30Speaker 5: these like five hundred cap rooms and like literally there'd
- 29:33Speaker 5: be like twenty people but all get out opened up.
- 29:35Speaker 4: On that tour and it absolutely blew my mind.
- 29:41Speaker 5: And I don't know how, but like I somehow discovered
- 29:45Speaker 5: that album just on like the top songs on Spotify
- 29:49Speaker 5: and started listening to it, and I think the thing
- 29:52Speaker 5: that stuck out with me the most was like I
- 29:56Speaker 5: think at the point at that point, like when I
- 29:58Speaker 5: really started listening to it, I was like going through
- 30:00Speaker 5: my divorce or had like just gone through it, and
- 30:03Speaker 5: was like starting to like experiment with like just being
- 30:08Speaker 5: out in the world by myself and like dating and
- 30:10Speaker 5: just like having relationships for the first time on my own,
- 30:13Speaker 5: not even like romantic, just like relationships in general, like
- 30:17Speaker 5: as a single person, because like I'd been literally like
- 30:22Speaker 5: married for most of my adult life. And as I
- 30:25Speaker 5: listened to this album, like they did such a good job.
- 30:29Speaker 5: I felt like with like communicating like relationship dynamics, whether
- 30:34Speaker 5: it's just like interacting with your neighbor or like interacting
- 30:37Speaker 5: with a loved one.
- 30:38Speaker 4: Like there's like so many different.
- 30:39Speaker 5: Songs about like heartbreak and just like being alone, and
- 30:44Speaker 5: then also just like the music itself, like it's just
- 30:47Speaker 5: like a roller coaster. Like there's crazy guitar parts and
- 30:50Speaker 5: like yelling and then there's calm stuff and it just
- 30:53Speaker 5: like it goes on a full adventure. So yeah, I
- 30:57Speaker 5: really think that that's an underrated album and underrated band.
- 31:01Speaker 5: And yeah, like I think it's it's a great a
- 31:05Speaker 5: great album.
- 31:06Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely all Killer, no filler there.
- 31:08Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely all Killer for sure, for sure.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always happy when that open band is actually
- 31:14Speaker 3: something I'm into. It's not the most common thing, unfortunately,
- 31:16Speaker 3: but it works out on it's a while. Yeah, the
- 31:20Speaker 3: one for me was the big one for me is
- 31:21Speaker 3: The Dig. That was I don't know if the three
- 31:23Speaker 3: even around anymore, but yeah, that was before a three
- 31:25Speaker 3: show in Minneapolis one time.
- 31:26Speaker 2: The Dig.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I heard them on like some coffee
- 31:30Speaker 3: shop like playlist once in a while. It's like in
- 31:32Speaker 3: the twenty tens, but let's.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Check that out.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Sounds like a post punk band or something.
- 31:37Speaker 2: It does kind of sound like a post punk band.
- 31:38Speaker 2: It's true, they're.
- 31:39Speaker 3: Kind of they're like a rock band. They're a little
- 31:41Speaker 3: they have like some like sims and stuff. I don't know,
- 31:43Speaker 3: they're like a twenty tens band. How I describe them.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call. I think it's I think
- 31:48Speaker 2: there's gonna be a few twenty tens bands on here,
- 31:52Speaker 2: all right, the beautiful Kayley.
- 31:56Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm gonna be surprised if anybody else really
- 32:01Speaker 6: knows this band.
- 32:02Speaker 2: But all right, I'm sure we get it.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Or just okay, but we already know about Mumford and
- 32:12Speaker 1: Sons camp.
- 32:17Speaker 2: I will admit before we go on, there was a
- 32:20Speaker 2: lot of Mumford and Son's chat in the group chat,
- 32:24Speaker 2: and I was getting a little skeptical at everybody's That.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Was a big day when a bunch of albums came
- 32:31Speaker 3: out the same day.
- 32:32Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, Colin.
- 32:34Speaker 4: I felt the same.
- 32:38Speaker 6: The true, the true answer here is Family Force five.
- 32:42Speaker 6: Obviously I was like, oh's but okay, I could make
- 32:51Speaker 6: an argument because it is the perfect cringe band, like
- 32:55Speaker 6: everything is Everything they do is cringe and they nail it.
- 33:00Speaker 6: But that's that's not what we're doing. So two thousand
- 33:05Speaker 6: and six, this band released their first full album, I
- 33:09Speaker 6: Am Ghost, with the album Lover's Requiem. It is probably
- 33:17Speaker 6: it's probably the best album that I've heard put together.
- 33:21Speaker 6: It was kind of orchestrated by two people who have
- 33:27Speaker 6: classic they have degrees in composing music, and so like
- 33:32Speaker 6: the violinist on it actually composes orchestra is orchestras with
- 33:39Speaker 6: strings right or is that piece of But so like
- 33:45Speaker 6: they wrote out this, they wrote out very good violin parts.
- 33:51Speaker 6: There's they have choir in it that are singing like
- 33:55Speaker 6: this classical requiem type sounds that are like very mo
- 34:01Speaker 6: Mozart like. But then the main music is this gothic
- 34:06Speaker 6: punk who where the lead singer has an operatic voice
- 34:11Speaker 6: but he's singing punk. The violinist, who is a woman,
- 34:15Speaker 6: sings back up, and the entire album is a story
- 34:19Speaker 6: of a vampire and an angel falling in love but
- 34:22Speaker 6: then how they realize they can't be together and then
- 34:25Speaker 6: it ends with them separating and uh, I don't remember
- 34:33Speaker 6: if there's were wolves off the top client any any?
- 34:39Speaker 6: Uh No, this is this is like more underworld type
- 34:46Speaker 6: of vampire, not Stephanie Meyer vampire.
- 34:50Speaker 2: So I haven't heard these people. But is it dream
- 34:53Speaker 2: theater esque less maybe guitar centric though.
- 34:57Speaker 6: It's yeah, I don't it's or is it just not really? Yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 6: it's really kind of its own thing. They kind of
- 35:07Speaker 6: did gothic punk very well, the people that kind of
- 35:11Speaker 6: brought that around was Aiden just a little bit before that,
- 35:14Speaker 6: and I don't know, I'm ghost is able to do
- 35:17Speaker 6: it without grooming the teenagers, so that's you know, that's
- 35:21Speaker 6: good on them. Aiden wasn't able to do that. But yeah,
- 35:28Speaker 6: in it, like it does break the no fillers because
- 35:33Speaker 6: there is a filler song. However, in my defense, it
- 35:37Speaker 6: really plays into the whole, the whole like theme of it,
- 35:43Speaker 6: so it's it's kind of filler, but like it builds up.
- 35:47Speaker 6: They do this wonderful thing of switching between four four
- 35:51Speaker 6: and in six eight that is amazing.
- 35:56Speaker 3: They use.
- 35:59Speaker 6: A lot of distance in some of their songs. It's
- 36:03Speaker 6: it's just it's so good. It's incredibly creative. The lyrics
- 36:07Speaker 6: are creative, the music is so incredibly put together. I
- 36:13Speaker 6: would say it's a it's a perfect album. And the
- 36:17Speaker 6: the the ending of it is probably the best, one
- 36:20Speaker 6: of the best endings to an album because it's just
- 36:23Speaker 6: an outro with that's in uh six eight time you
- 36:28Speaker 6: got the double bass going and the violin and I
- 36:32Speaker 6: think that a cello in it, but then this opera
- 36:34Speaker 6: in the background, and it's it's great.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a pure smorgas. I love it.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I'm in, I wanna, I want to hear I am
- 36:44Speaker 2: ghost if.
- 36:45Speaker 1: You need any more reason to uh listen to him Culin.
- 36:50Speaker 1: They did tour with the Chariot back and looks like.
- 36:52Speaker 6: Dead what they did?
- 36:54Speaker 2: What?
- 36:55Speaker 6: And they also they toured with Escape the Fate back
- 36:58Speaker 6: when Ronnie Racky he was I was in it.
- 37:05Speaker 2: All right, Well I'm in. I'm gonna go check him
- 37:07Speaker 2: out as.
- 37:10Speaker 1: How did they escape Ronnie Racky? And then the aiding guy?
- 37:13Speaker 1: Holy cow, I've heard.
- 37:15Speaker 3: I mean, I'm always big on bands that aren't just
- 37:19Speaker 3: you know, bass, guitar, drums, vocals, So that's always interesting
- 37:23Speaker 3: to me. I remember going to Life Flight back in
- 37:25Speaker 3: the day, just like watching like eight bands of that
- 37:27Speaker 3: in a row in the afternoon stage always.
- 37:31Speaker 6: So there's a band called She Heard Hers and they
- 37:37Speaker 6: have a song called killed Kill the boy band And
- 37:42Speaker 6: in the second verse it's like.
- 37:45Speaker 8: Ah, damn it, it's so late and I'm tired, basically
- 37:54Speaker 8: uh saying if your band is all white, all white
- 38:00Speaker 8: sis white guys, you might as well play country because
- 38:05Speaker 8: they all sound the same.
- 38:10Speaker 2: This is true, This is true, all right. My record
- 38:16Speaker 2: is one that I don't think any of our listeners
- 38:19Speaker 2: ever would have imagined I listened to. I think that
- 38:22Speaker 2: this record is one that is for everybody. It's the
- 38:28Speaker 2: most accessible record I've ever heard, but never falls into
- 38:32Speaker 2: the gimmicky, never falls into the hokey or cheesy or
- 38:36Speaker 2: lame territory.
- 38:39Speaker 1: And it is dreamed by Katy Perry.
- 38:41Speaker 2: It is teenage dreamed by Katy Perry. No, it is
- 38:44Speaker 2: a tourist history by Tudor Cinema Club.
- 38:47Speaker 1: I know this about you.
- 38:49Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about this record. They
- 38:53Speaker 2: haven't made anything else that comes anywhere near this kind
- 38:57Speaker 2: of musicianship, in my opinion. They've had a few songs
- 39:00Speaker 2: here and there on their other records, but this one
- 39:02Speaker 2: in particular, through and through every single song is so good.
- 39:08Speaker 2: It's danceable, it's listenable, it's chantible. They've got tunes that
- 39:15Speaker 2: you are going to want to sing as if you
- 39:18Speaker 2: are in an arena, you know, with a thousand other people,
- 39:22Speaker 2: or if you are or ten thousand other people, I
- 39:24Speaker 2: should say, or if you are you know, just hanging out,
- 39:27Speaker 2: chilling on the couch and just listening to music. It
- 39:31Speaker 2: also works for that. It is lightning in a bottle
- 39:36Speaker 2: kind of an album, and whenever I think of the
- 39:38Speaker 2: perfect album, it is the first album that comes in
- 39:41Speaker 2: my head every single time. For good reason. I think, Yeah,
- 39:47Speaker 2: I just I don't have much else to say about
- 39:48Speaker 2: it other than that I'd never heard anyone really match
- 39:52Speaker 2: the sounds that they created on this record. There's not
- 39:56Speaker 2: a note out of place, and they suck. I'll say
- 40:00Speaker 2: that this. I've seen live footage of them doing this
- 40:07Speaker 2: record live and it's not good. But on the record itself,
- 40:12Speaker 2: it's fantastic. Maybe they've gotten better as time has gone on.
- 40:15Speaker 2: I know that this was like their debut album and
- 40:17Speaker 2: stuff like that, so it's it's.
- 40:19Speaker 3: Was there a big one from that album? I remember
- 40:21Speaker 3: listening to it. I think, yeah, there was a.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Bunch of cigarettes in the theater undercover Martin, do you
- 40:27Speaker 2: want it all? There was a whole that might be
- 40:30Speaker 2: the one, A whole bunch of them.
- 40:32Speaker 3: I think I listened to it at the time and
- 40:35Speaker 3: then probably lost it in a switching from Spotify to
- 40:37Speaker 3: Apple Music kind of thing or something. I don't know,
- 40:39Speaker 3: but it's.
- 40:40Speaker 2: One of those strange groups that like they kind of
- 40:44Speaker 2: like reached the zeitgeist and like people had at least
- 40:48Speaker 2: heard of them, but they like quickly faded from memory
- 40:52Speaker 2: almost immediately. But and it it doesn't matter what audience
- 40:56Speaker 2: I play it to. Like, if I played it like
- 40:57Speaker 2: at Thanksgiving, everyone in the room would be happy that
- 41:01Speaker 2: I was playing it. If I was playing it in
- 41:02Speaker 2: my classroom, everyone to be happy that I was playing it.
- 41:05Speaker 2: If I was playing it in a group full of uh,
- 41:08Speaker 2: you know, gruff bikers, they would all be happy I
- 41:11Speaker 2: was playing it. It is the most accessible music I
- 41:14Speaker 2: have ever seen, and it never falls into the typical
- 41:19Speaker 2: pitfalls of accessible music of being hokey or cheesy or
- 41:22Speaker 2: corny or whatever.
- 41:24Speaker 1: So yeah, they kind of nailed this ability to be
- 41:28Speaker 1: poppy enough for people that only like pop music. And
- 41:32Speaker 1: then there is something about their sound that is indie
- 41:36Speaker 1: and hipster and cool enough to you know, appease that
- 41:41Speaker 1: audience as well. Yeah, and they just like nailed that,
- 41:45Speaker 1: Like whatever that fine line is, they nailed it perfectly. Yeah,
- 41:49Speaker 1: especially in this album.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like I said, they have a couple of
- 41:52Speaker 2: their songs here and there, but that's it good.
- 41:55Speaker 3: All right, brain I think kind of by the same
- 41:59Speaker 3: space of my head as like Passion Pit.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Is that Oh yeah, yeah, perfect, perfect perfect call. Yeah.
- 42:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the same time frame, same sort
- 42:07Speaker 3: of or.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Even even like uh like glass animals or wash trees,
- 42:14Speaker 2: you know, the washed Out. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot
- 42:16Speaker 2: like that.
- 42:17Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, I washed Out. Yeah. If there're anything
- 42:20Speaker 3: like that, then I they were a big fan of
- 42:21Speaker 3: or big one of mine.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Two Yeah all right, Mace, all right.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Another album that I don't think most people in my
- 42:31Speaker 1: life know that I listened to on the regular, but.
- 42:35Speaker 2: I just I wish, oh my god.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Uh.
- 42:39Speaker 1: But still an album that I like. I remember when
- 42:43Speaker 1: it came out again, I think this album came out
- 42:45Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, so around the time that the Birds
- 42:47Speaker 1: and Row album came out. But this album as soon
- 42:50Speaker 1: as it came out, and it was an artist I
- 42:52Speaker 1: had never really listened to outside of her like full band,
- 42:56Speaker 1: but it was her. It's her solo project, but I
- 42:59Speaker 1: had never really her much, and then this album came
- 43:02Speaker 1: out and I was like, this just is incredible musicianship.
- 43:07Speaker 1: And so the album is called Jamie and the artist
- 43:11Speaker 1: is Brittany Howard, who is in a band called Alabama Shakes, Yes,
- 43:16Speaker 1: which she's probably most famous for Alabama Shakes, but her
- 43:19Speaker 1: solo album Jamie. I don't know if she's had a
- 43:22Speaker 1: solo album since I don't think I could be wrong,
- 43:25Speaker 1: don't quote me on that. But this album has such
- 43:29Speaker 1: a diverse range of genres going on. Like she'll have
- 43:31Speaker 1: like a hip hop song, she'll have like a country song,
- 43:34Speaker 1: she'll have a jazz funk song. I mean, just like
- 43:36Speaker 1: it's a whole range of different genres, and the whole
- 43:39Speaker 1: album is really about her struggle navigating identity around being
- 43:44Speaker 1: like a biracial woman growing up in Alabama, and it's
- 43:48Speaker 1: just it's like fascinating. It's just really well done. I
- 43:52Speaker 1: just think her musician shit. I mean, obviously she just
- 43:55Speaker 1: has an incredible voice, but just everything about the album
- 43:58Speaker 1: is really really well done. And I think it's only
- 44:02Speaker 1: like ten, maybe even nine songs. It could be as
- 44:05Speaker 1: short as it's a short it's not that long of
- 44:07Speaker 1: an album. I mean, it's just over thirty minutes. I
- 44:09Speaker 1: mean it almost feels as short as like a punk album.
- 44:12Speaker 1: But because of that, it just like you get through
- 44:14Speaker 1: the entire album so quickly that you're like you're almost
- 44:16Speaker 1: wanting more. And I think that's a really good indication
- 44:19Speaker 1: that it's a perfect album. Is like you just you
- 44:22Speaker 1: get done with it so soon you're like, wait, like
- 44:25Speaker 1: I wish there was more of this sound again, And
- 44:27Speaker 1: that's exactly what this album does for me. So I
- 44:30Speaker 1: think it's just an incredible album. Again. I just don't
- 44:32Speaker 1: think most people would assume that I'm a huge Brittany
- 44:34Speaker 1: Howard fan, but I just think she's incredible.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Yeah, and her new alternative music or heavy music fora
- 44:43Speaker 2: is one of my most anticipated things.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I've been watching those live videos. I don't think there's
- 44:49Speaker 1: been any like studio recordings yet that have been released yet. Yeah,
- 44:53Speaker 1: but the live videos of her screaming is absolutely insane,
- 44:58Speaker 1: and I'm so excited for this hardcore project.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, has anyone else has anyone else here heard it?
- 45:03Speaker 4: What is it called? Again?
- 45:05Speaker 1: I don't remember the band name.
- 45:08Speaker 3: But was that in the group suttle on time ago?
- 45:09Speaker 1: I think probably. I am so stoked about this, like
- 45:15Speaker 1: it's uh the band is called uh what is it called? Who?
- 45:21Speaker 3: Mike? Yeah?
- 45:22Speaker 1: K you m I t E Yeah.
- 45:25Speaker 3: Yeah. They should definitely get them at Furness Fest next
- 45:26Speaker 3: year or even Alabama Shakes. That'd be a great time.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Yeah, her scream is pretty unbelievable. So anyway, Jamie Brittany Howard,
- 45:36Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect album.
- 45:37Speaker 2: Great calls, great call Ryan.
- 45:43Speaker 3: This next one is when I was interested is to
- 45:45Speaker 3: doing VBS over the summer a couple of years back,
- 45:48Speaker 3: when I was in college going to a Bible school.
- 45:50Speaker 3: My friend Owen that I met calling through Yeah go
- 45:53Speaker 3: yeah he's listening. Shout out to Owen yesterday. Nice? Oh
- 45:58Speaker 3: a track? H nice? How's the track season going?
- 46:02Speaker 2: It's great, fantastic.
- 46:06Speaker 3: So I think this was an Illinois maybe when we
- 46:07Speaker 3: listened to this. But yeah, i'd heard The Holy Fee
- 46:09Speaker 3: before this and I'd liked it. And this is back
- 46:12Speaker 3: when CD's were the main deal, so I didn't have
- 46:14Speaker 3: chad chance to listen to everything else yet there wasn't
- 46:16Speaker 3: streaming and easily accessible stuff. But yeah, this isn't probably
- 46:19Speaker 3: the biggest one that people know by this band, but
- 46:21Speaker 3: it's my favorite. I like the other one too, but
- 46:24Speaker 3: this is a's hard to find a friend by Peter
- 46:25Speaker 3: the Lion.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Oh hell yes.
- 46:28Speaker 3: So I like Control just as much as everybody else too.
- 46:31Speaker 3: But this one's got a really special place so from
- 46:34Speaker 3: from that time especially, but just uh so, Yeah, I
- 46:37Speaker 3: talked earlier about not being a huge lyrics person. But yeah,
- 46:40Speaker 3: this one's definitely a lot about the lyrics, Yeah for sure.
- 46:43Speaker 3: So so, yeah, he talks about stories a lot. He's
- 46:46Speaker 3: very descriptive in his his songwriting a lot of the time.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Sometimes the stories are personal to him. Sometimes you know,
- 46:51Speaker 3: they're just stories of things that he thought about and
- 46:53Speaker 3: maybe to whatever came into his head. But especially they're heavy,
- 46:58Speaker 3: they're relatable, they're super funny, sarcastic. I mean, there's a
- 47:00Speaker 3: song on here about like women shaving their legs, which
- 47:04Speaker 3: I did. He did play live quite a bit when
- 47:06Speaker 3: after he wasn't playing much from this album is a
- 47:08Speaker 3: lot of the lyrical content, so but yeah, especially like
- 47:11Speaker 3: that Bad Diary Days is pretty devastating. It's about like
- 47:13Speaker 3: someone with an unfaithful partner and has a killer guitar outro.
- 47:17Speaker 3: It's just the best. So and a song earlier on
- 47:20Speaker 3: the album called Big Trucks, which is just sort of
- 47:23Speaker 3: like being young and dumb and not really understanding like
- 47:25Speaker 3: what it's like to become an older becoming an older
- 47:28Speaker 3: older man and having your dad kind of explain things
- 47:30Speaker 3: a little bit to you about like this is what
- 47:31Speaker 3: it's like. This is he don't flip off the guys
- 47:34Speaker 3: in the trucks and they get in your way kind
- 47:36Speaker 3: of stuff. So and yeah, especially towards the end of
- 47:39Speaker 3: the album, the song called the Bells kind of basically
- 47:42Speaker 3: just stay a prayer, like from a young man. It
- 47:44Speaker 3: was relatable for me at the time and even today too,
- 47:46Speaker 3: so Yeah. And then also the Secret of the Easyoak,
- 47:49Speaker 3: which I was probably about the same ade I suppose
- 47:52Speaker 3: as Dave, like when I heard this album about ten
- 47:53Speaker 3: years after it came out, this he was when he
- 47:55Speaker 3: wrote it. But yeah, I was probably in the same
- 47:57Speaker 3: similar place to like starting to kind of feel pretty
- 47:59Speaker 3: out of step with Christianitian in America and just pretty
- 48:02Speaker 3: I don't know, jaded by a lot of the people
- 48:04Speaker 3: I knew and experiences I had, and hypocrisy and all
- 48:06Speaker 3: that usual stuff. So and pretty after pretty Infamoucy. Infamously,
- 48:11Speaker 3: after this, Dave obviously renounced his faith and I kind
- 48:15Speaker 3: of figured I never hear most of this album live,
- 48:16Speaker 3: But twenty twenty three I got to go see him
- 48:19Speaker 3: input in the Cities and he played this album and
- 48:21Speaker 3: Control at the same time. Yeah, and I got to
- 48:23Speaker 3: go with Owen, so kind of brought everything all full circle.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bummed you guys don't invite me. That's there's
- 48:29Speaker 2: a real stab in the heart and not gonna life.
- 48:30Speaker 3: It's a public event. I mean, that's true, that's true.
- 48:33Speaker 2: That's true. But when my friends don't invite me, it hurts. Sure,
- 48:37Speaker 2: it goes no. I I one hundred percent agree that
- 48:43Speaker 2: that is the definition of a perfect album in my opinion,
- 48:46Speaker 2: and it is the lyrics that pull it all together.
- 48:49Speaker 2: It is it is so relatable, so folksy in so
- 48:53Speaker 2: many ways, and I feel like that's kind of becoming
- 48:55Speaker 2: a lost art. I don't know if anyone else has
- 48:57Speaker 2: anything to say on that, but I feel like I
- 49:00Speaker 2: feel like that folksy, relatable kind of content in terms
- 49:05Speaker 2: of lyrical style, is really becoming extinct.
- 49:11Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I put not that album but
- 49:15Speaker 5: Phoenix by Dave Zon as an honorable mention, And I
- 49:20Speaker 5: feel like it had some sleepers though, like you like
- 49:23Speaker 5: it's just so slow, you like fall asleep a little bit.
- 49:25Speaker 5: But like, aside from those like the storytelling is just
- 49:29Speaker 5: like absolutely bananas.
- 49:32Speaker 3: Like especially on those new ones where there's sort of
- 49:34Speaker 3: stories like from different times of his life, like yeah,
- 49:36Speaker 3: this is growing up, but it's a really cool idea.
- 49:38Speaker 3: I love it.
- 49:39Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say I don't know that it's necessarily
- 49:41Speaker 7: a dying art. I mean, there's the guy I found
- 49:43Speaker 7: on Instagram, Jesse Wells, who does all rights all sorts
- 49:47Speaker 7: of folk music, specific like in the vein of like
- 49:50Speaker 7: protest folk music. Oh yeah, fantastic.
- 49:54Speaker 2: That is a dying art. I don't care what anyone's saying.
- 49:56Speaker 2: True protest music is is dods really good.
- 50:00Speaker 3: If there's ever a time, it's right now. So I'm
- 50:02Speaker 3: sure we'll be getting a lot of that if nothing else, I.
- 50:04Speaker 2: Hope to God that we do. Yeah, I want to
- 50:06Speaker 2: hear some tariff protest songs.
- 50:08Speaker 1: God damn, all right, who's next?
- 50:13Speaker 2: All right, we're on too uo.
- 50:18Speaker 7: Okay, God, you know, I was really sad when you
- 50:21Speaker 7: said no no soundtracks because this would have been Star
- 50:27Speaker 7: Wars Episode one sound track.
- 50:31Speaker 2: I am fully on board with you. But yes, I
- 50:39Speaker 2: love the episode one soundtrack. I listened to it all
- 50:42Speaker 2: the time.
- 50:44Speaker 7: I'll fall pretty good, wake up to the duel of fates,
- 50:47Speaker 7: Duel the fates. Yeah, so this one for me, I
- 50:50Speaker 7: think is it's of man by cool Hand Luke.
- 50:56Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, whoa, that's left field.
- 51:01Speaker 7: Holy Perfect Album.
- 51:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it right now.
- 51:07Speaker 6: It's that's a band I've heard of and so long.
- 51:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been trying to get them on the podcast
- 51:15Speaker 2: forever because you only have one person to track down. Really,
- 51:18Speaker 2: it's been so hard. I've gotten a hold of him,
- 51:22Speaker 2: then then we like lose contact some I don't know anyways,
- 51:26Speaker 2: I agree Perfect album. Yeah, yes, sorry.
- 51:31Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's it's it's definitely a very like from
- 51:35Speaker 7: from the you know, from the Foundation. It's a very
- 51:37Speaker 7: religious album, right. It is essentially lent slash Passion week
- 51:44Speaker 7: stuff Christianity, like through and through. What I love about
- 51:48Speaker 7: it is like you like you can tell it's it's
- 51:52Speaker 7: the last really, in my opinion, it's really the last
- 51:55Speaker 7: Cool Hand Luke album. I know he released Cora afterward,
- 52:00Speaker 7: it's a few years later, but this feels like everything
- 52:03Speaker 7: that Cool Hand Luke was got distilled and put into this.
- 52:06Speaker 7: They had a lot, he had lots of like guests
- 52:10Speaker 7: come in, you know, guitars and I think, you know
- 52:12Speaker 7: there's somebody somebody from under Oath or somebody on guitars
- 52:16Speaker 7: under Oath in Normangy I can't remember, but just like
- 52:19Speaker 7: such such good stuff. There's such there's all this emotion,
- 52:22Speaker 7: there's these highs lows and just really takes you on.
- 52:25Speaker 7: Like talking about albums that you listen from front to back, like,
- 52:28Speaker 7: that's definitely one because it's a story beginning to end
- 52:33Speaker 7: and also you know the Chariot length because apparently that's
- 52:35Speaker 7: what we're doing. Mark Knicks played drums in the Chariot
- 52:40Speaker 7: for a little bit and then left. So yeah, but
- 52:45Speaker 7: I love this album. It is definitely not what I
- 52:48Speaker 7: listened to all the time, but there are parts of
- 52:50Speaker 7: the year where it's like this gets heavy rotation.
- 52:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's me too. I definitely check it out
- 52:55Speaker 3: a few times, usually this time of or I think
- 52:57Speaker 3: when we're talking about it a few weeks ago. I
- 52:58Speaker 3: definitely listened to it later that day at work, and
- 53:01Speaker 3: I really like the kind of the callbacks like to
- 53:03Speaker 3: other albums and other songs that he did, especially what
- 53:07Speaker 3: is it the Silver or Not whichever one that calls
- 53:10Speaker 3: back like the Incomprehensible Sleep from the Sleeping House. That's
- 53:12Speaker 3: what probably my favorite cool end looks on it, like yeah, yeah,
- 53:16Speaker 3: and then yeah, there's like something like the like there's
- 53:18Speaker 3: like the lyrics about wake up of Sleeper and there's
- 53:19Speaker 3: like the Solely Dale Gloria. I think that's like a
- 53:22Speaker 3: hidden track. It's like one of those like euro rewind
- 53:24Speaker 3: the album from the beginning back to the very last.
- 53:27Speaker 7: It's a very last track on it.
- 53:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is about that album,
- 53:33Speaker 2: but October is the month that I listened to that
- 53:38Speaker 2: it for me, it feels like it fits that season
- 53:41Speaker 2: so well. Maybe maybe some of you guys have the
- 53:45Speaker 2: same experience, but there's some albums that a certain time
- 53:49Speaker 2: of the year comes around a certain you know, crisp
- 53:52Speaker 2: in the air or maybe warmth in the air, you
- 53:55Speaker 2: you name it. You all of a sudden are taken
- 53:58Speaker 2: back immediately to a certain time in play. And I
- 54:02Speaker 2: remember listening to that album while I was walking my dog,
- 54:06Speaker 2: and I just kept going further and further and further
- 54:10Speaker 2: because I had to keep listening to the album and
- 54:12Speaker 2: I probably listened to it seven times in a row.
- 54:17Speaker 2: I'm not over exaggerating with that, just because I was
- 54:20Speaker 2: just taking it all in, and of course it was.
- 54:22Speaker 2: It was a crisp fall evening and it turned into
- 54:25Speaker 2: a very cold fall night and I just my hands
- 54:28Speaker 2: were freezing. I had my disc Walkman, you know, the
- 54:32Speaker 2: good old days, holding it like this and that that
- 54:36Speaker 2: record definitely holds a core memory part of me. Also,
- 54:43Speaker 2: I remember hearing the story that there was like a
- 54:46Speaker 2: tour that they went on in which for most of
- 54:49Speaker 2: the tour they did not face the crowd. The entire time.
- 54:53Speaker 2: They turned their backs, all of them turned their backs
- 54:57Speaker 2: to the crowd because they were quite serious about the
- 55:03Speaker 2: art of it, the message of it, you know, and
- 55:07Speaker 2: being convicted by something like that is I think that's
- 55:12Speaker 2: high art first of all, and I also think it's
- 55:14Speaker 2: very commendable. So yeah, good stuff, good stuff, Gosh, what
- 55:21Speaker 2: an album?
- 55:21Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 55:21Speaker 7: For me, the track that I that I love Slash
- 55:24Speaker 7: hate the most is His Eyes. So that's the one
- 55:27Speaker 7: where it's sort of like this build and there's like
- 55:29Speaker 7: you know, the matic it's like crucifixion and like you
- 55:32Speaker 7: get to that point and there's just like they bring
- 55:34Speaker 7: sort of the screams, but they're way better at this
- 55:37Speaker 7: point in the career. Like from where they started, it
- 55:39Speaker 7: was like this is hard to listen to, hard.
- 55:42Speaker 3: To listen to. The production wasn't great on some of
- 55:45Speaker 3: those early stuff, and he.
- 55:46Speaker 7: Could barely sing, you know, he was really learning, But
- 55:49Speaker 7: like here it's just like everything is perfect and you
- 55:52Speaker 7: just feel like you viscerally feel like what he's describing
- 55:57Speaker 7: in that moment was just just stuff.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is a that is a deep cutting
- 56:04Speaker 2: album for sure. All Right, we better keep moving, David.
- 56:12Speaker 5: All Right, So my other, like my my top, what
- 56:17Speaker 5: I feel is actually a perfect album, and I exposed
- 56:20Speaker 5: it in our group chat, but I still kept it
- 56:22Speaker 5: is Lament by Touche more like that is it's on
- 56:27Speaker 5: the cusp of the five years. It came out in
- 56:29Speaker 5: twenty twenty, but it is just such an insane fucking record, Like,
- 56:35Speaker 5: and I have a lot of reasons. Well, I guess
- 56:37Speaker 5: I should backtrack to say that I don't even know
- 56:40Speaker 5: how I found out about Touche a More. They've been
- 56:44Speaker 5: around for ages before that, but I never listened to
- 56:48Speaker 5: any of their music. I can't remember how I discovered
- 56:50Speaker 5: that album, but I remember coming across it when it
- 56:55Speaker 5: came out in twenty twenty, and.
- 56:56Speaker 4: It just like absolutely just like destroying me.
- 57:00Speaker 5: Like it's kind of funny because it's just like, oh, like,
- 57:03Speaker 5: you're just like a straight white dude, Like what kind
- 57:06Speaker 5: of problems can you have? Like, And I honestly don't know,
- 57:08Speaker 5: if I step back and look at outside album, I like,
- 57:11Speaker 5: I don't think that guy has many problems, but like
- 57:14Speaker 5: he convinces you like that life is.
- 57:16Speaker 4: Just like extremely painful.
- 57:18Speaker 5: But there's also like amongst it, Like there's a song
- 57:23Speaker 5: where in like the chorus he says like I need
- 57:26Speaker 5: reminders of the love that I have, and like I
- 57:29Speaker 5: think that's just like such a human thing, like sometimes
- 57:32Speaker 5: we all just need to be reminded that like we're
- 57:34Speaker 5: loved and others love.
- 57:35Speaker 4: Us and that they're there.
- 57:36Speaker 5: And another two other things that stuck out, Well, there's
- 57:40Speaker 5: three things. Andy from uh Manjo's Orchestra. He has guess
- 57:45Speaker 5: vocals on that, which like I wouldn't have never really
- 57:49Speaker 5: thought about, but like it works perfect, and like he
- 57:53Speaker 5: must have an affinity for like hardcore music, because a
- 57:56Speaker 5: couple of years later, he appears on every Time I Die,
- 58:00Speaker 5: his last album, which again feels like out of left field,
- 58:04Speaker 5: but it also just like makes sense and is perfect.
- 58:07Speaker 5: So that was a really cool thing because you're not
- 58:09Speaker 5: really expecting that.
- 58:10Speaker 4: And then also.
- 58:14Speaker 5: Again just like that whole thing of like loss but
- 58:18Speaker 5: like also being like clever, like his previous album, like
- 58:22Speaker 5: that I never really got into but like I've heard
- 58:24Speaker 5: any interviews was.
- 58:25Speaker 4: About like his mom passing away I think from cancer.
- 58:28Speaker 5: And the album comes out in twenty twenty, and he
- 58:32Speaker 5: talks about how he's lost more family members to the
- 58:35Speaker 5: GOP than cancer. But he just like he just like
- 58:40Speaker 5: suddenly like slips it in there. Like it's just like
- 58:43Speaker 5: it's not like he's not screaming or anything. He just
- 58:47Speaker 5: like literally just like suddenly slips it in there. And
- 58:49Speaker 5: you're almost like, wait, what did you say?
- 58:51Speaker 4: And like you have to go back and listen to it.
- 58:53Speaker 5: And I just think, like the subtle nature of something
- 58:55Speaker 5: so large like that after you had like actual devastation
- 58:59Speaker 5: of like lose I mean like one of your like
- 59:02Speaker 5: best like friends and family members is just so.
- 59:05Speaker 4: Wild to me. And then to like kind of tie it.
- 59:09Speaker 5: All up, he ends it singing, which like that guy
- 59:13Speaker 5: is not a singer, Like he shouldn't be, like, in
- 59:16Speaker 5: my opinion, like he shouldn't be singing, like he's like
- 59:19Speaker 5: a screamer.
- 59:20Speaker 4: Like his his voice when he sings is.
- 59:23Speaker 5: Not good, but like he just fucking goes out on
- 59:26Speaker 5: a limb and does it and it's beautiful and he
- 59:29Speaker 5: has like piano playing like there's like this whole like
- 59:32Speaker 5: piano valad, which like you don't expect for a hardcore album,
- 59:35Speaker 5: and then like it ends on a total high note
- 59:37Speaker 5: of him just like kind of losing it with a
- 59:39Speaker 5: bunch of energy again.
- 59:40Speaker 4: And so I just don't think that you would expect that.
- 59:42Speaker 4: So that is why that I think is a perfect album.
- 59:46Speaker 4: It's just a beautiful rollercoaster.
- 59:48Speaker 2: Yeah. I had that one on my list. That album.
- 59:52Speaker 2: I I cannot be in a public place if I
- 59:55Speaker 2: listen to that album.
- 59:56Speaker 5: Yeah, because you cry for real, No, I've regard the
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: other thing. It's yeah, well no, finish what you're saying.
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: But I'll remember, Okay.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: I had a moment where I was mowing the lawn
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, listen to Tuche More and
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: I might have had a few miller lights. I have
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: a I have four acres of grass to mow in
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: my yard because I have a huge yard, and I
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: had to stop for two hours. I literally was just
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: like sitting there frying on the mower, just bawling my
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: eyes out because I mean I was going through an
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: extremely rough time in my life and I thought I
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: was gonna die at that moment because that album had
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: hit me so fucking hard, and I have to get
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Like I said, I have to be very very careful
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: where I'm at when I put that song on. I
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: was listening to it literally last week as I was
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: driving to school, and I had a friend of mine
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: who was, you know, kind of spilling his guys and
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: he was, you know, kind of on the edge of life.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: And I shared that exact song that you that you
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: brought up where it says I need reminders of the
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: love I had. I need reminders good or bad. And
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: I shared that song with him and he's like, dude,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: this this literally has like snapped me back into reality
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: and that that there is plenty of people here that
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: love me and that I need to I need to
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: just remember. I need to remember that I'm not alone
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: in this in this life, and then I'm not alone
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: in this world. And shit, man, Like I I got
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: to school and I literally was like slapping myself in
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: the face because I was like, I need to, like,
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: you know, prepare for the day. But like, there's not
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: a lot of albums that have affected me like that album.
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: You know, if we're talking about influential albums, that's an
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: album that is easily probably. I think it's probably the
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: most influential maybe other than what I'm gonna have next here.
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: So yeah, I was gonna say, well, two things is funny.
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: I'm just imagining like your students coming in, they're like,
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: while you're crying, You're like, I listened to the t
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: h More record.
- 1:02:25Speaker 9: Not Again, and then the thing that you reminded me of. Yeah, literally, mister,
- 1:02:35Speaker 9: the thing that you reminded me of as you were
- 1:02:37Speaker 9: talking that I forgot was another thing that makes that
- 1:02:40Speaker 9: record great and very sad but also like beautifully human is.
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: He doesn't say it exactly, but.
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: He he He mentions in maybe the last song about
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: how he wrote a whole entire record about like the
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: worst time of his life, and he was like, but
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: no one asked me like or asked me now like
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: how I'm doing, even some of you that are profiting
- 1:03:11Speaker 5: off of this current album, and you're just like.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: The fuck.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh my god.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: Like completely breaks the fourth wall. Yeah, musical world that
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: never that never happens.
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: Like I was just like he could be talking about
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: like he's like label me or like the people on
- 1:03:31Speaker 5: his label, like the people in his vand like he
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: could be talking about like anyone like that, like are
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: actually a part of this?
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: And I was just like, this is horrible, Like this.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: Is saddest disk track ever.
- 1:03:44Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's just so sad like and I don't
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: think I caught that until listening to to listening to
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: it this last time, and I was just like, god,
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: like I don't know, it kind of made me sad,
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: I think more than anything, like because I was just like, man,
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: I want I hope you talked with like someone about this,
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: like more than just like it being on the record,
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: Like I hope you did like actually reconcile those things.
- 1:04:13Speaker 7: He needs a tim Yeah, hey, you know what that
- 1:04:16Speaker 7: song in particularly you guys were talking about like that live.
- 1:04:20Speaker 7: I got to see it in the last year they
- 1:04:22Speaker 7: came through and like I'm pretty sure people were crying
- 1:04:26Speaker 7: as they and like running into each other just like
- 1:04:30Speaker 7: so good. Also, he's also a poet. Yeah, Like if
- 1:04:34Speaker 7: you've not read his poetry, you really should. It's just
- 1:04:39Speaker 7: it'll it'll rip your heart out.
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: To do you know?
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: Do you know? How do you know how much he has?
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: Is it just that December one.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Or there's a few of them.
- 1:04:46Speaker 7: This is the one that I was able to snag
- 1:04:48Speaker 7: when it was it.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: Was just so good. I've definitely heard of the band
- 1:04:51Speaker 3: for a long time. I think they were very closely
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: associated with me that you like genre of why is
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: at least for.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: A long time he guessed with them.
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, never got round list to them, but I
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: have a little bit now like lately. And then actually
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: my biggest touch with him is his podcast, the first
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: ever podcasts he started doing during COVID. That's been really
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: good too.
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: Yeah, podcast is sick for sure.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I I was with that album the day
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: after I was were talking about it and I really
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: liked it, especially you had the song with hay Hole.
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: I'm a big Manchester fan.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, Kaylee Europe.
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: So I think I said this on the on the
- 1:05:28Speaker 6: group chat and you probably didn't take me serious. But
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: and also this is such a weird thing to go
- 1:05:34Speaker 6: after that discussion. Sub Seven's Free to Conquer. I'm gonna
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: perfect perfect album for for what it was, thirty five
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: minutes long, ten tracks, but it all it came out
- 1:05:48Speaker 6: at a time whenever like Emo is hitting mainstream and
- 1:05:50Speaker 6: like Christianity sucked at doing email music, and they just
- 1:05:55Speaker 6: kind of came on and did their own thing and
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: created such a unique sound that it really defined the
- 1:06:03Speaker 6: fact that you could actually just make good music instead
- 1:06:06Speaker 6: of trying to be trying to be whatever is popular
- 1:06:10Speaker 6: in the mainstream. And you know, it had had some
- 1:06:15Speaker 6: build on it, like a really heavy track which was
- 1:06:18Speaker 6: really followed by a very slow soft track, and it
- 1:06:23Speaker 6: ends on like honestly one of my like favorite like
- 1:06:29Speaker 6: get hyped songs, which is a vampire and it's Yeah,
- 1:06:33Speaker 6: it's just such such a good album for the time
- 1:06:36Speaker 6: and such. It was incredibly unique for for what it was. Say,
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: I'm going to say that that one's a favorite for
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: mine for me and I'll listen to that still just
- 1:06:52Speaker 6: really good.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: Didn't you have a pretty close connection with those guys.
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: I became friends with Wesley, like way after the fact.
- 1:07:04Speaker 6: I did a podcast to college friend of mine. This
- 1:07:08Speaker 6: is like before I came out and transitioned, and he
- 1:07:13Speaker 6: just reached out to them and be like, hey, I
- 1:07:15Speaker 6: would like to interview you if you're up to it.
- 1:07:19Speaker 6: And then yeah, Wesley and I started talking and becoming
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: friends and like this is when I was like deconstruction
- 1:07:26Speaker 6: from Christianity and he kind of was too. But then
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: he kind of had some stuff like fall apart in
- 1:07:34Speaker 6: his life, which is different. But I kind of lost
- 1:07:39Speaker 6: touch with him a little bit whenever I transitioned, which
- 1:07:44Speaker 6: wasn't necessarily fair because he's actually he reached out to
- 1:07:48Speaker 6: me and was cool about it. And yeah, so I'm
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: realizing that I let that friendship. That friendship kind of
- 1:07:56Speaker 6: fell through because of me, not because of him. But yeah,
- 1:08:00Speaker 6: but that's awesome too, by the way.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad that. I'm so glad that he
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: came on the podcast. And actually, surprisingly so what I've
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: always found interesting and this is kind of a you know,
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: a side tangent, but you know, we've had Brian had
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: Welch on here and we've had Dave the Snake Sabo
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: from from skid Row. You know what, you want to
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: know what what episode has outdone both those people? Sub
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: seven There's a good reason for believe it's they've made
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: records that mean a lot to people, and Free to
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: Concer is a perfect album through and through.
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: Agree totally con tracks of greatness, every single one.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was one of the I stole
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: that one from my uh from my youth group room.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: Nice yeah that that album. There are not that many
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: bands where they've only released one full length album and
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: and and it's just like an incredible album. But that's
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: one of those few bands out in the world that
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: have only released one album and it's a great album.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: New Radicals is probably actually one of the other ones.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: But like, honestly, there's not too many failure on that
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: failure on is up there, Ryan, what you're.
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: Saying New Radicals. I guess I didn't realize there was
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: anything else on that album besides you Get what You Give.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole a whole bunch of those songs.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean there's there. There are not too
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: many bands where they only have one full length and
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: and it's just an actual actual banger of an album
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: and sub sevens for to conquer as one of them.
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: And then there's a couple of different versions like slightly
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: from that, and and like there those are. It's all good.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:09:55Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, they're a band that a
- 1:09:58Speaker 6: lot of people love, but so it's not a band
- 1:10:00Speaker 6: that comes up very often on like one of my
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: favorite bands, But whenever you bring it up, there's a
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: lot of people they're like, oh yeah, sup seven I
- 1:10:09Speaker 6: love that band.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely, I agree. All right, my turn. This
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: one also kind of out of left field, mainly because
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: I'm not a I get very tired of the lead
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: vocalist here. And our friend David actually just took some
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: beautiful photographs of this guy trying to jump into a
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: recycling bin.
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: Fiction family, not fiction family. There their self titled album
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: blew my mind. I did not know that folky songwriter
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: type music could be that good, uh, and and that
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: they could nail it that well through and through their
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: their second album, I think it's called I think it's
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: called Reunion or something like that. It's not it's not
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: nearly as good the original one. I have it on vinyl,
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: I have it signed. I think that it is a
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: perfect record through and through. I had a very bad
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: breakup when I was in high school, and that album
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: was what got me through it. And it was it was,
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: it was beautiful. I probably don't survive without that album.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: I think it's it's one of those that reaches into
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: your soul. And but at the same time, it's not
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: like taking itself too seriously either. It's it's it's very serious,
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: but also very It's almost like a like a father
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: or like a like a an authority figure in your
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: life that you actually trust. Is Daddy talking to Maybe not.
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: Daddy, It is not a daddy. I don't know about
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: the other.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Guy, Sean Watkins from Nickel Creek.
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: Yeah, from that was like something kind of like Blue
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: Grassy Year.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they were a Grammy either nominated or
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: winning art bluegrass. Yeah.
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: It's like a sister's in the band too, Sarah, I think.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, yeah, yeah, very very interesting duo. Two
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: guys you would never imagine, you know, playing together, and
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: their their mixture is just it's potent and it and
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: it works well and I'm I'm here for it, and
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: I think that anyone who listens to that record will
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: definitely feel what I'm talking about, especially like the dueling
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: acoustics that they that they put together. You get some
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: very very interesting melodies that I've never heard from any
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: other band ever or not band, but do well, I guess.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah.
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: Just both sing on the same track very much on
- 1:12:51Speaker 3: that album. I don't Yeah, so.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: They would usually back each other. What I like about
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: it is like it's basically like the it's basically the
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: blue print that everyone uses today they were doing back
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: in what twenty ten when that album came out. So,
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: so you know the blueprint of like, hey, I live
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: halfway across the country. You live halfway the halfway across
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: the country. Let's just drop box a whole bunch of
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: ideas back and forth to each other till we come
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: up with an album. That's essentially what they did.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Or send it through the posal service, yeah yes.
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: Or send it through the postal service. But they, uh,
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: that's how they did it. They just drop boxed a
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: whole bunch of of of kind of ideas back and
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: forth to each other until they had a full album
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: and they're like, well, I guess we got to release it.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: And it's it's a perfect album through there's not a
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: single filler song in there.
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: So I've got a couple of things tracks say, event
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: the whole thing also check the whole thing out again.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we should.
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: I need to go back and listen to an ave
- 1:13:51Speaker 4: and listen to it. Probably since the cheme out.
- 1:13:52Speaker 5: I may have listened to a couple of tracks since
- 1:13:54Speaker 5: the over the last like twenty years or how long
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: it's been, but yeah, it's been a while.
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: It's been a while.
- 1:13:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I mostly remember yeah the first track though, when
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: She's Near, and then the third one that's I'm not
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: Sure to get over you whatever it's called Elements.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: Elements Combined is my favorite one, and I think that
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: that one definitely makes you feel what like love is
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: like or like new love is like. I guess so
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: it's pretty good.
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: That's definitely the first track to you.
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, good, all right? Makes a final record.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna go through, let's.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: Go, let's go to a third why not? This is fun.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: I hope you guys are having fun. If you're not
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: having fun, just say I'm not having fun and we
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: can stop now.
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: I don't know if I have a third record, I
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: just have honorable mentions.
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: Well, then just throw one of your honorable mentions in the.
- 1:14:40Speaker 4: Sounds good.
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: This is an album that has been mentioned a few
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: times on as as an infinite as an influential album,
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: but it truly is one of my one of the
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: top albums that I listened to just really consistently and
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: again like it's a no skip album. I think it's perfect.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: I think it's also I often talk about in the
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: podcast there's a difference between your favorite album, a band's
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: most influential album and their best album, and this is
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: one of those bands. And I guess, truly believe that
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: this is this band's best album. Can I guess their
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: most influential and it's not there? It's not my favorite?
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Can I guess? Please? Can I guess?
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: I have a guess too?
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: Is it a Radiohead album?
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: Yes?
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: I was gonna say cigare Ros.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: Okay, so this is always the part where I'm not
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: sure where you're thinking at it? Is it kid A?
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: It is kid.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: Right, best friends.
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: The reason why I'm not gonna say Cigarros is because
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: SUGROSSU probably Valtari. It is truly like an influence, like
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: I would put it in my top five, and so
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: I just like, I feel like I can't put them
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: in there right now. Yeah, but yeah, Radiohead's kidd A
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: just an absolutely stunning album through and through from the
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: very beginning to the very end. It's just truly an
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: unbelievable album. I don't really know what else to say
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: about it. It's just absolutely incredible album. That this is
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: an album that I really I never really got into
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: Radiohead until probably college for me, so this would have
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: been like way after radio had even became really a
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: big deal.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: Actually, Like, I remember when you got into Radiohead because we.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: Were I was like, we were driving around girl issues
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: and all that.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: Yeah, we were driving around to my granddam and we
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: were at Walmart and then I put in in Rainbows
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: and You're like, what is this? I was like, it's Radiohead.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: You're like, this is this is Radiohead? And you did
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: like that whole like Mason, I'm in a wonderment kind
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: of like face, which I love because it's it's it's
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: very nostalgic for me, and I still get to see
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: it every once in a while and you're like, You're like,
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: this is this is actually really good? This is really
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: really good.
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: It made me.
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Radiohead was anything beyond creep, so
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: uh yeah, I immediately gotten to Radiohead. I was going
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: through like some girl issues in college and I just
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: would listen to this album all the time. And here
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: I am.
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: Now now that was a big college one for me too.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: Now I'm like, now Kida is just one of the
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: I think truly a perfect album.
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's their only full like no killer
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: or all killer, no filler album. I think there's a
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: lot of skippable stuff on most of their other albums.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: Yeah, personally, I agree. Well, I think I was.
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: I say they were, I was gonna bring them upybe.
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: When you're talking about the Beatles like they're I think
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: they're kind of in the same place, like where there's
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: they're just so experimental and so influential, but like so
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: like there's hits and misses from Police for me, Sue
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: Poun Stevens kind of the same, deals are just too long.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think kid A and In Rainbows
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: are both two records that there's no skips on it, right,
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: there's it's all killer.
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: No filler, And I don't love the middle of End
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: Rainbows as much, like kind of after the first couple
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: of tracks and then until.
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: Reckoner, Oh I Got You, I Got You, but and.
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Computer's up there too, But yeah, nothing an
- 1:18:09Speaker 3: album with fit or happier is not a perfect album.
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree. What's interesting is my college
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: my final year of throwing for for STSU in track
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: go to warm up song was always uh, everything in
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: its right place, and that there's something about that warbly
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: kind of not synth. What is it.
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: We're not really the Ons. It's like the Os Martineau
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: or something like that. It's like some weird yeah yeah,
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: Johnny Green played It's some weird like thing that breaks
- 1:18:44Speaker 3: down all the time and they try to use it live. Yeah, whatever,
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: different song too. There's a lot of weird stuff on
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: that album.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of what it is. But
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: for some reason, that always put me in like the
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: perfect groove for like for like getting warmed up in
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: it like always raised my testosterone or something. I don't know.
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: It got me going, got me ready to compete. Which
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: is the weirdest song to.
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: Get warmed thunder understruck.
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: Well, actually, you know what's funny. We had a we
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: had a track meet yesterday and one of my high
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: schoolers was literally listening to the Chicago Musical soundtrack when
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: they were when they were warming up, I was like,
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: you're my kind of person, not the.
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: Band Chicago I'd be. I'd be just giving some like
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: Saturday in the Park or something.
- 1:19:37Speaker 7: You had to come in.
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: There's some four Yeah.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I've sang that at karaoke a few times and
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: I had all the fifty and sixty old women saying,
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it was great.
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: A mash up with did you a mash up with?
- 1:20:00Speaker 7: Uh?
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: Green Day? What's the one long which what song? What's
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: the green Day song that's like the same thing as
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: twenty five or six Zeppe one? There's a load zeppein
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: song too, Like I don't know how many more times
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Yeah, there there's a there is a led Zeppelin song
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: that doesn't like.
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: It's how many more times I think it's it's on
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: the first album.
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, Yeah, all right, Ryan, you're up.
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kid. It was definitely what I was thinking
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: about including too, but it's probably my top ten. So
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: let's see. Last one is some what I've heard about.
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: I think you're reginly NPR like on all songs considered
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: her else one of their podcasts or something.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: But hold up, Ryan, you listen to NPR.
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: Not much anymore. But I don't know that was like
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: I think that the do like a year end thing
- 1:20:42Speaker 3: of like the best music of the year. I like
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: a new music a lot, I don't. Yeah, especially here
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: in the twenty tents, I was not listening to a
- 1:20:47Speaker 3: lot of heavy music besides maybe deaf Evan and like
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: Converge got to them in the twenty.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: They allow MPR in South Dakota.
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought I thought Christian Noan blocked it
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: when she was governor.
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: No, she was busy out like flying everywhere more money.
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: She was busy sending the National Guard to the border.
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: She's just making sure that they are all dogs to
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: the yard.
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: Yeah, gouterans goodrans Christinam. Anyway, that's one good thing that
- 1:21:18Speaker 3: came out of November.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: All right, hey, real quick, just so all our listeners know,
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: my my Sunday school teacher growing up is now the
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: Secretary of Homeland Security.
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: Yeah, rocking the fifty Grand Rolix's Salvador.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: I mean I feel like there's more stories to be
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: named here. Like you literally had me convinced that I
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: was going to go to USF because you know the
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: story Colin, because of that buffet and south and Sioux Falls.
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: I just I just want you to say it.
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: No, no, you know you as wipe Okay wrote, Really
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: that's my great this is my greatest claim to fame.
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: Really quick story, really really quick story. We were at
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: the Royal Fork Buffet in soup Ball, South Dakota, where
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: they have liver and onions on the uh on on
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: the you know, the the warmer.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: Tragically they used to they don't, they.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: Don't, they don't exist anymore. I I still have a
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: bumper sticker that says I love Royal Fork Buffet. And
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: uh there was Mason was, you know, wearing a Chariot
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: T shirt and.
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: I was like a sophomore.
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think you're a sophomore. And this
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: we had a waitress that came over and she gave
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: us our sodas and Mason like got up to go
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: to the bathroom or something, I don't remember exactly, and
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: we were talking to the waitress and then she left
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: when Mason came back, and uh, I said, dude, Mason,
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: guess what this girl is all about you? Because she
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: thinks you're really cute and you're wearing a Chariot T
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: shirt and she's a massive Chariot fan man. And he's like, really,
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: are you serious? Are you serious?
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude.
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: She's like, she's like the one from me. I'm going
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: to USF because she goes to USF. Right, because we
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: were talking about how she goes to USF, which is
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: University of Two Falls Christian Christian college, private school, go
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: kog and May. We had Mason on this track for
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: I don't know an hour at least.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: Girl had never been interested in me before.
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I was like, dude, you should go
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: get her number and all this stuff, and uh yeah.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: We ended up having to like let him know, let
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: him out easy that you know, this wasn't actually no.
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: Do you remember how you guys told me?
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: I don't remember what happened.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: So finally we leave the restaurant. I'm like fully convinced
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: this girl is like into me. We get into the
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: car and calling and our friend they're like, they still
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: keep going with the gag, and at some point they're like,
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: we got her number, like she she like gave us
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: her number to give to you, and they like pull
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: out this napkin and I'm like, oh my god, I'm
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: gonna get this girl's number. And they give me this
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: napkin and instead of her number, it says gotcha, and
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: I like, my heart's sank my heart.
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: Mason. I'm so sorry, man, we were dicks.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: We were the same guy that stole my under OCD too,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: But I did you.
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: Know I am the best and the worst friend at
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: the exact same time. Mason and I'm sorry.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: But also, yeah, lucky I let you on my podcast.
- 1:24:45Speaker 7: He's loved you at your worst color.
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is when we're friends.
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: I love it.
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: This is good all right.
- 1:24:54Speaker 3: Anyway, So yeah, back in my post office days when
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: I was looking for ending to listen to, when I
- 1:24:58Speaker 3: was deliver mail esecial at the end of the year,
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: when it was some crazy days, they were talking about
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: I think the previous album before this one by Angel Olsen,
- 1:25:08Speaker 3: this guy right here, this is the album afterwards called
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: My Woman and let me put my notes here. But yeah,
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: there's some really good like grungey guitar stuff on the
- 1:25:16Speaker 3: one before that. I came remember what it's called. I
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: think it's Burned Your Fire for No Witness if I recall.
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: But this one's pretty instrumentally, it's pretty cool. It's all
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: over the place. There's like some since on the first track.
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: I think that was the first track that released for
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: it when it came out, and I remember just playing
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: that over and over again. It's called intern And then
- 1:25:31Speaker 3: she did some visios that were pretty cool too for
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: this album as well. And yeah, so like the closer
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: around this one is just kind of a piano outro,
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: like just kind of like piano and vocals. It's really haunting.
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: Track two is like kind of like a Phil Spector
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: like Wallace sound vibe. It's kind of like those girl
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: groups from like the sixties. That's pretty fun one too,
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: But the big one for me on this album, for sure,
- 1:25:50Speaker 3: is a song called Sister. It's right in the middle.
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: It's like an eight minute song that's kind of a
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: vibe and kind of Yeah, it's like a good fall
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: Asleep album, I think for sure too. I've done that
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: a lot of the time. But whatever thought they have. Yeah,
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: there's a lot of like morose, kind of like suggestive
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: even like some horny lyrics, especially on the song it's
- 1:26:04Speaker 3: probably the most well known from this album it's called
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: Shut Up Kiss Me. I think that was probably the
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: big one.
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: For girls that are going to us AFT that are
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: really into the Chariot.
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: Got You Bitch.
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of nostalgie, a lot of wistful feelings. Yeah,
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: some great work especially too on Woman. Yeah, some good
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: guitar work. I don't know what her band's like. I
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: think she's got a pretty good crew of people, but yeah,
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: I haven't seen her live. I'd really She's definitely on
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: my bucket list to see live.
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: How did you How did you come across Angelolson? I've
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: never heard.
- 1:26:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I heard. I think I heard about
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: her on like the they have, like the last they have,
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: like the Bob Boylan that had like the tiny Dust
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: concerts back in the day. I think he's retired now,
- 1:26:46Speaker 3: but he would. They'd have people different on, like Lars
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: Gotrick that's been at Furnace Best. I think he would
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: be on that show then sometimes too, so.
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: Like right after Nancy Pelos, who was talking or something.
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: This is a podcast.
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: Oh gosh, but no.
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: I was in Washington, d c H. I don't know,
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: five ten years ago and I toured the MPR studios.
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: I got to I got to see the tiny desk,
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: so it was a good time.
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: Is it actually tiny or is it pretty big?
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: It's pretty big. It's got a lot of crap that
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: saw Emmy. I think he has like a Semmy just
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: laying around with everything else too. And I think there
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: was like a there was a like a Fuji water
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: bottle that a Della drink out.
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: Still so but it's a tiny foot crutch.
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, great lyrics, great, great variety of musical
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: genres on this one. Check it out.
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna check it out. Yeah, that sounds like
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: a good record. All right, Jim, what.
- 1:27:49Speaker 7: Would you say if I told you a thousand Foot
- 1:27:52Speaker 7: Crutches first album. I'm not going to tell you that,
- 1:27:54Speaker 7: but what would you say if I did?
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: I just watched video.
- 1:27:58Speaker 3: It's your LISTO.
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: I just watched a video of what a thousand foot
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: Crutches first like live performances, and uh, I did not
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: know that they went so full corn. Yeah, like they
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: even had like field be's, like like super loose string
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: bass and everything like that.
- 1:28:23Speaker 6: It was nuts that there's some really good stuff on
- 1:28:26Speaker 6: their first album. There is also some really not very
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: good stuff on their first.
- 1:28:34Speaker 7: That's why it's not.
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: The first. Yeah, the first Tooth and ALBC solid state
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: band I ever saw. I was probably a mixture of them.
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: And I think it was like FM Static and Falling
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: Up and it was in Brookings. Oh did you see
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: that same tour? Yeah, because f M Static and was
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: the same band as another band it's Falling Up. I
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: think it's Crutch.
- 1:28:58Speaker 6: It was, Yeah, it was Trevor and Steve from that
- 1:29:03Speaker 6: was for Crutch, Yeah, Swift Bokings.
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: All I remember about f M Static was I saw
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: their album cover and it was a dude with a
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: half blonde, half black colored mohawk, and I was like,
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: this ain't for me. I'm out.
- 1:29:22Speaker 7: You weren't cool enough.
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: The film was I loved FM Static too, but at
- 1:29:29Speaker 6: the like he sang songs about like teenage angst and
- 1:29:34Speaker 6: he was in his thirties, I think with their last
- 1:29:40Speaker 6: album and that got a little a little corporate.
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: I mean, I remember seeing MxPx at Life Flight like
- 1:29:47Speaker 3: whatever in the two thousands and thinking, like, these guys
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: are like, you know, in the thirties were talk about
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: high school and whatever, and yeah, I'm having a great
- 1:29:59Speaker 3: time listening to all these songs from going to the
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: Buffalo and life in general, and like even now that
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: they're in their fifties and talking about high school.
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: Still at that exact same show, Ryan, I threw a
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: piece of pizza at the bassis and it hit his bass.
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: I nailed it, and he played the bassis. I literally
- 1:30:16Speaker 2: played the bass with m xp X while they're going.
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: Live with Tom Tom the basis. I think Sure.
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: Is one of the touring members of I should be
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: on the Wikipedia.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: I really should be on the Wikipedia.
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: I'll go I forgot. Sorry. Also concert Culis was the
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: band was the headliner. I forgot about Culis the headliner.
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: The biggest.
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: Culis was the biggest band of juice Bags.
- 1:30:45Speaker 4: Ever, how could they not be? Like the names a giveaway?
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: You must be a forward guy, huh okay?
- 1:30:58Speaker 7: Like my actual third is a tie between two, all right,
- 1:31:03Speaker 7: and I'll tell you the first one and then it's
- 1:31:05Speaker 7: not actually gonna be that one. One is five on
- 1:31:08Speaker 7: Frenzy to Electric Boogaloo.
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 1:31:12Speaker 7: I think it's their best album that they ever did
- 1:31:15Speaker 7: is in terms of consistency. But I can't say it's
- 1:31:18Speaker 7: actually perfect album because if Reese even cared to hear this,
- 1:31:21Speaker 7: he would be like, nothing we've done is ever perfect.
- 1:31:24Speaker 7: It's terrible and horrible, and I would agree, even though
- 1:31:27Speaker 7: I love it, but not really. I love it, but
- 1:31:30Speaker 7: it's not terrible.
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: No.
- 1:31:31Speaker 7: Actually, I think it's probably what I mentioned earlier, failure.
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: You're on, my beloved.
- 1:31:37Speaker 7: It's just again, it's one I could sit down, like
- 1:31:42Speaker 7: you know, calling, like you were saying, like I could
- 1:31:43Speaker 7: sit down and listen to that, and half said down
- 1:31:46Speaker 7: listen to it until my wife's like, turn that off.
- 1:31:49Speaker 4: Turn it off.
- 1:31:51Speaker 7: It's like the fifth time you've listened to it. I'm like,
- 1:31:53Speaker 7: but it's just perfect. Just one of those albums where
- 1:31:56Speaker 7: you just keep going. I think it's probably when I
- 1:32:01Speaker 7: first heard it, Like it's probably the first album where
- 1:32:03Speaker 7: I was like, wait, you can like do like radically
- 1:32:08Speaker 7: different like sections and songs and somehow you're like foreshadowing
- 1:32:13Speaker 7: it earlier in the thing. It was just like, like
- 1:32:16Speaker 7: it just stands up. I mean there's a lot of
- 1:32:19Speaker 7: there's a lot of music, a lot of post hardcore
- 1:32:21Speaker 7: emo music from the time when that came out that
- 1:32:24Speaker 7: like does not stand up right. That is very formulaic,
- 1:32:29Speaker 7: and somehow even though they I don't know like maybe
- 1:32:33Speaker 7: they did, maybe they didn't, but definitely in like North Carolina,
- 1:32:36Speaker 7: South Carolina up in West virginu where I'm from originally,
- 1:32:40Speaker 7: like North Carolina was where we went to hear music,
- 1:32:42Speaker 7: and like they were creating something that was specific to
- 1:32:47Speaker 7: this part of the country, and it was I was
- 1:32:50Speaker 7: really sad that they only ever did one album because
- 1:32:52Speaker 7: it was perfect.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: Unbelieva in the Day that the Traders is still my
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: favorite song of all time. Yeah, just it has everything
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: I love in music. It's got great emo stuff, it's
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: got all the hardcore stuff, and at the very end
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: you got this really cool like post or like post
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: rock kind of thing going on.
- 1:33:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: So just like it literally to me, is like a
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: perfect song.
- 1:33:15Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:33:17Speaker 3: Did you get to see them live back in the
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: day or at Turns Fest twenty one?
- 1:33:21Speaker 7: I did get to see him in first at First
- 1:33:23Speaker 7: Fest because I got COVID the week of oh Man. Yeah,
- 1:33:27Speaker 7: but because I live in South Carolina, I just went
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: up to the hometown shows and caught the second one
- 1:33:32Speaker 7: and it was amazing. Code seven was amazing. It was
- 1:33:36Speaker 7: just like amazing. That was fantastic.
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: Yeah. I think a lot of the Runian bands have
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: done that to kind of warm up or to kind
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: of like while we're while we're doing this, m as
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: well do some other stuff too, I think like training
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: free and.
- 1:33:46Speaker 7: Yeah, they did it after forest Fest, which was amazing.
- 1:33:48Speaker 7: So they were like whatever kinks they had to work out,
- 1:33:51Speaker 7: they were gone because it was perfect.
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: Nobody wants to work out their kinks, we don't, king shame.
- 1:34:00Speaker 7: Shake the dust off the kinkes.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: There you go, there you good good calls? All right?
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: Is it? David that's next, David.
- 1:34:10Speaker 4: David Dog, That's okay.
- 1:34:13Speaker 5: So I had a really hard time picking a third one.
- 1:34:18Speaker 5: But if I would like gun to my head, if
- 1:34:23Speaker 5: I had to pick something and someone's like, pick your.
- 1:34:25Speaker 4: Third what, yeah, can you?
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: I would say drunk like Bible Times, buy Deer in
- 1:34:34Speaker 5: the Headlights and Deer in the Headlights. Sorry, have any
- 1:34:39Speaker 5: of you guys heard of them?
- 1:34:43Speaker 4: Incredible? Absolutely amazing. That's exactly my point. Everyone shook their head.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: The band is called Bible Times, No, so.
- 1:34:53Speaker 5: The album is drunk like Bible Times, and then yeah,
- 1:34:57Speaker 5: and the band is Deer and the Headlight. They're from
- 1:35:01Speaker 5: Arizona and they did two records. If you go and
- 1:35:04Speaker 5: look them up on Spotify, they have sixty thousand monthly listeners,
- 1:35:09Speaker 5: which devastates me because like that's a good chunk of people.
- 1:35:13Speaker 5: And yeah, the singer just like quit at one point
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: to go like we're at Trader Joe's and sort out
- 1:35:18Speaker 5: his demons, and like, now I don't know that he
- 1:35:23Speaker 5: does music at all, but it's just I think there's
- 1:35:26Speaker 5: a tie in with like my other like records, is
- 1:35:29Speaker 5: that it's just very human, Like he's just really good
- 1:35:32Speaker 5: at storytelling, just talks about like life and like love
- 1:35:35Speaker 5: and just like just every day normal things like he
- 1:35:41Speaker 5: a lot will like mention like friends' names, which has
- 1:35:44Speaker 5: always been like super intriguing to me. Like I feel
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: like it's kind of like what you said, where it
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: almost like colon ward almost like breaks the fourth wall
- 1:35:51Speaker 5: where I'm like, you're not supposed to be like directly
- 1:35:54Speaker 5: like talking to like a person that we don't know,
- 1:35:58Speaker 5: but like they're telling like a beautiful story that like
- 1:36:01Speaker 5: just sounds great.
- 1:36:02Speaker 4: And like there's something relatable about it.
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: I think about like Fallout Boy, like in their one
- 1:36:07Speaker 5: of their first albums.
- 1:36:08Speaker 4: Out of that song that's just like hey, Chris, we.
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: Love you back, like you were our only friend, and
- 1:36:13Speaker 5: that's just like the chorus over and over and you're like,
- 1:36:16Speaker 5: who the fuck is Chris, But it's still just like
- 1:36:18Speaker 5: amazing because they again just like kind of broke that
- 1:36:20Speaker 5: fourth wall. So yeah, that's that's what I love about You.
- 1:36:24Speaker 5: In the Headlights only did two records, I think in
- 1:36:27Speaker 5: two thousand and seven and then in two thousand and eight,
- 1:36:30Speaker 5: so it was like back to back and then they
- 1:36:33Speaker 5: just like they got like kind of popular and they
- 1:36:35Speaker 5: just fell off the face of the earth. Never did reunions,
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: like literally never did like anything other than they released
- 1:36:43Speaker 5: a double vinyl maybe like five or six years ago
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: and I bought it, but on that just silence, okay.
- 1:36:51Speaker 5: And so the other thing I would say is their
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: first album is really good, the one that came out
- 1:36:56Speaker 5: in two thousand and seven. But the reason I didn't
- 1:36:58Speaker 5: pick that one was because it has some like slower songs,
- 1:37:02Speaker 5: whereas like Drunk by Bible, Drunk like Bible Times like
- 1:37:05Speaker 5: the second album like it's just like constant constant punch.
- 1:37:09Speaker 4: So yeah, really really good. I like it a lot.
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: Oh, they're guitarist. They're guitarist is known for voicing the
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: character Plucky, which is Ducky's little sister, in the animated
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: film The Land Before Time. So the guitarist was the
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: voice for Plucky Amazing and Land Before Time.
- 1:37:30Speaker 5: I whoa I want oh calling your You're silent, you're
- 1:37:36Speaker 5: a mute, You're avoid amazing two two quick things is one.
- 1:37:48Speaker 5: I would love if you found some members from this
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: band and interviewed them aka the singer. But I'll take
- 1:37:53Speaker 5: anyone because I just don't understand, like some of these
- 1:37:56Speaker 5: songs have over a million plays, like in literally like
- 1:38:01Speaker 5: the singer I don't know what he's doing now, but
- 1:38:03Speaker 5: for like several years just like went and worked to
- 1:38:05Speaker 5: Trader Joe's, which again like nothing above that, but it's
- 1:38:08Speaker 5: just like mind boggling. And then the other thing that
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: I was going to say is nothing to do with music.
- 1:38:12Speaker 5: Is I've been wondering this whole time, Mason, what are
- 1:38:14Speaker 5: you drinking?
- 1:38:16Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:38:16Speaker 4: I keep seing your cup.
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: And I'm usually boxed wine. They boxed wine today.
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: No, it's some sort of orange liqueur and salter water.
- 1:38:26Speaker 3: Nice.
- 1:38:26Speaker 2: Okay, cool, all right, I'm totally in. I gotta check
- 1:38:29Speaker 2: these guys out. This sounds amazing. Also, fantastic band name
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: drunk like Bible Times.
- 1:38:35Speaker 4: Album name, album name.
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: Oh that's the album name. What's the what's.
- 1:38:39Speaker 4: The Deer in the Headlights?
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: Oh, Deer in the Headlights is the name of the band? Okay,
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: I got you.
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: That's a great name. Note too, it is, it is.
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: It is.
- 1:38:47Speaker 4: I'm putting an album in the chat there.
- 1:38:50Speaker 2: I love it, all right, Kayley, all right.
- 1:38:55Speaker 6: The third one is so hard because there's so many
- 1:38:58Speaker 6: bands are albums to put higher, Like my Chemical Romance's
- 1:39:05Speaker 6: Black Parade should be there, but they have a hidden
- 1:39:08Speaker 6: track so apparently. Yeah, So what I'm going with is
- 1:39:17Speaker 6: a band that I think that we all like h
- 1:39:19Speaker 6: and they started strong, did okay, they peaked and then
- 1:39:25Speaker 6: they've I don't know what they've done since. But no
- 1:39:29Speaker 6: more under Oath albums come on now, No, not under Oath.
- 1:39:32Speaker 4: I was gonna say, please, don't say under Oath, or
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: I'm just gonna leave.
- 1:39:35Speaker 6: Like under Oath, under Oath doesn't have a perfect album. Sorry,
- 1:39:44Speaker 6: that will probably not that will probably get me not
- 1:39:46Speaker 6: invited back. But yeah, Emory's Emory has a perfect album.
- 1:39:54Speaker 6: We do what we want and that's that's their best album.
- 1:40:00Speaker 6: It has given me like a big response right here.
- 1:40:04Speaker 2: I agree. I think it is their best album too,
- 1:40:06Speaker 2: and it's one of personal album.
- 1:40:09Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's so good. It starts off heavy, it
- 1:40:13Speaker 6: does their classic like screaming and soft singing and songs.
- 1:40:18Speaker 6: It has an amazing it has an amazing ending that
- 1:40:23Speaker 6: is it's a tear jerker. It's just it's it's good
- 1:40:27Speaker 6: all around. It's everything that you like about Emory finally
- 1:40:30Speaker 6: put into one album and then they never do that again.
- 1:40:36Speaker 4: It was like the only one without Devin, right.
- 1:40:39Speaker 6: Yeah, it was about Devon.
- 1:40:40Speaker 4: Yeah, which is kind of funny. You know.
- 1:40:43Speaker 2: It's interesting because I would actually say that the one
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: that's probably closer to perfect is in Shallow Seas We Sail.
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: But I do think that We Do What we Want
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: is the most influential one, mainly because they broke a
- 1:41:01Speaker 2: whole bunch of barriers, and I don't think I think
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: hindsight being twenty twenty, a lot of us maybe forget
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: about this. But they put the Bible on the front
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: and it said we do what we want, and they
- 1:41:16Speaker 2: cussed on that album, and they went extra heavy, especially
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: with like scissors and stuff like that, and people were
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: really really turned off by that album, and they burned
- 1:41:30Speaker 2: a ton of bridges with a lot of their listeners.
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: And that's why I love it so much.
- 1:41:37Speaker 6: It's honestly a great album. And the music. The music's good,
- 1:41:45Speaker 6: the songwriting is good. But also, like so many bands do,
- 1:41:52Speaker 6: tend to get softer, and it kind of seemed like
- 1:41:54Speaker 6: that they were, and then they just come back and
- 1:41:58Speaker 6: start with the shoveled us and it's just right there,
- 1:42:03Speaker 6: like it's so part of part of the perfectness is
- 1:42:06Speaker 6: the fact that they have a longer history and to
- 1:42:10Speaker 6: just start off super hard, like giving you almost that
- 1:42:15Speaker 6: reminiscent of the first time you listen to the Weeks
- 1:42:17Speaker 6: and Whenever Walls starts where it's just right in your
- 1:42:22Speaker 6: face and then it backs off. It's amazing album. It's
- 1:42:29Speaker 6: it's it's a great album, and I don't think that
- 1:42:31Speaker 6: there's any song on there that that falls flat.
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: In Shallow Seas is great, I think.
- 1:42:35Speaker 2: I think in Shallow Seas We Sail is fantastic, especially lyrically.
- 1:42:40Speaker 2: I think that's like one of their strongest. But the
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: punches that they were willing to not pull for We
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: Do what we Want is I think to this day
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: it's one of the most groundbreaking Christian albums out there
- 1:42:58Speaker 2: because it really did. They proved exactly what the album
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: cover said, we do what we Want.
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: Wasn't it wasn't it like literally the next album they
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: had The Woman that was like naked. Yeah, even that one, even.
- 1:43:16Speaker 7: You're Never Alone was in between.
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: That record is fantastic too. That one's like all like
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: Bible stories but from like a modern perspective that was
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: That was a fantastic album too. But yeah, they had
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: a good they had a good string of three there
- 1:43:31Speaker 2: that I think We're.
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: Top notch rest in Peace, Christian.
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: That was a very good record. That that's their that's
- 1:43:39Speaker 2: their strongest of the most recent three, I think for sure.
- 1:43:43Speaker 2: So all right, final one. I'll finish this off here.
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: Norma Jean the Anti Mother. I think that this record
- 1:43:52Speaker 2: is Norma Jean's most perfect record. It's not my favorite.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: Mason thinks I hate it, which is hilarious because I
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: said that when it first came out, I was a
- 1:44:02Speaker 2: little skeptical on.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: It, but the finisher.
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: I hated the Finisher initially, and then as time went
- 1:44:10Speaker 2: on I loved it more and more and more and more.
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: But it was only because they did the B swarm
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: sound for a little too long, you know. But that's
- 1:44:22Speaker 2: one that has a hidden track that actually is a
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: real track, you know. It's it's it's it's a good one.
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: It's a great one, and it's right at the end
- 1:44:31Speaker 2: of that B swarm, which is fantastic. What I love
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: about it most is that they they went all over
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: the place. I mean, you had China Moreno with heavy influence.
- 1:44:41Speaker 2: You had three fold guitars really really dialing it in,
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: and you have the guitarist from Helmet Peyte Hamilton, who
- 1:44:52Speaker 2: is known for pretty much creating like the perfect guitar sound,
- 1:44:58Speaker 2: like the perfect guitar tone, I should say, uh. And
- 1:45:01Speaker 2: his influence is obvious on this record too, because he
- 1:45:03Speaker 2: was pretty influential and he was in the studio with
- 1:45:07Speaker 2: it as well. The record just it it doesn't let up.
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: It feels less heavy than the refluence is obvious on
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: this record too because he was pretty also heavier at
- 1:45:20Speaker 2: the same time. It is. It's an enigma. But what's
- 1:45:23Speaker 2: wild though, is it's it's one of those records where
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: you kind of forget just how good every song is
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: on there, and they never play hardly any songs from
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: that record live.
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you all want to plug?
- 1:45:38Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we had an announcement for like a
- 1:45:42Speaker 5: company that I'm working on. Uh my mom isn't gonna
- 1:45:45Speaker 5: be a big fan of this, but I've been working
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- 1:45:55Speaker 5: and it makes it more like palatable and approachable. And
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- 1:46:03Speaker 5: We're getting we're getting Tiger King to do the marketing
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- 1:46:24Speaker 5: homes or you're like, yeah, that's gonna be the next one,
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- 1:46:45Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it tasted like herpes.
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- 1:46:50Speaker 4: herpes palatable, so you can still.
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: You said you said herpes flavored. I thought it.
- 1:46:58Speaker 4: Sorry flavored herpe stream.
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering.
- 1:47:07Speaker 5: I don't know because I use the cream and so
- 1:47:12Speaker 5: when I'm with my partners who have herpes.
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: We had a little sourdough bread that's a little too sour.
- 1:47:18Speaker 4: What'd you say?
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- 1:47:21Speaker 1: too sour?
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- 1:47:46Speaker 5: to have a bigger budget, and we should be able
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- 1:47:52Speaker 6: I don't I feel as if plugging anything after Uh, after.
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: That, you better start creaking things after that.
- 1:48:04Speaker 6: Yeah. Anyways, Uh, if you want to find more of
- 1:48:15Speaker 6: me on the internet and not related to herpes cream,
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- 1:49:03Speaker 6: online and I am currently writing a commentary on the
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- 1:49:44Speaker 3: What do you do?
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- 1:49:53Speaker 7: Oh, that one's for the Christian Nationalists.
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: Speaking of Timothy, Timothy, tim what do you want to
- 1:50:04Speaker 1: what do you want to plug?
- 1:50:05Speaker 7: Yeah, so I mentioned I'm a licensed professional counselor. I
- 1:50:08Speaker 7: work for myself, which is great. I'm only licensed in
- 1:50:11Speaker 7: South Carolina to provide mental health counseling, so I work.
- 1:50:18Speaker 7: I have specialize in working with people dealing with anxiety, trauma, stress.
- 1:50:23Speaker 7: I also specialize in working with people from the l
- 1:50:25Speaker 7: g B, t q I A plus community. So and
- 1:50:28Speaker 7: I do fully telehealth. So if you live in South Carolina,
- 1:50:32Speaker 7: where you're in South Carolina, I can work with you
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- 1:50:40Speaker 7: do business stuff, I can help you do your business
- 1:50:43Speaker 7: stuff and it's not mental health stuff. But you can
- 1:50:45Speaker 7: reach me here at www dot Good Council. That's g
- 1:50:51Speaker 7: o O. D ecouncil dot com. So that's my blurb.
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: Mhm.
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: And all two of the South Carolina people that need
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: mental health therapy, all two well that listen to us
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: at least oh.
- 1:51:09Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha, I see, I see.
- 1:51:16Speaker 6: Well.
- 1:51:17Speaker 1: Thank you all for sharing your perfect albums, incredible albums.
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: I'm actually pleasantly surprised that most of them I've actually heard,
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: and all of the albums that I do know that
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: you all mentioned are incredible albums. So if there are
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: any albums that you all haven't listened to that we're mentioned,
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: you have to go check them out. There's unbelievable albums.
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: And so thank you all for joining us incredible albums,
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: and it's always fun to just talk about some of
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: the music that has shaped who we are and why
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: we are the way we are. So thank you so much.