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From 2 Dollar A Day to Contracting With Microsoft Manuj Aggarwal · Inspiring Stories

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Thank you for listening to De Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
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me? Oh well, jus well, not a bad stop. I just
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see Solipashion along. He's a dead anc. Welcome back, everybody, our
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next guest. He went from making two dollars a day to owning a software
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company, and not just any software company, but he has worked with Microsoft,
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IBM, Pearson Education, and many others and has been recognized by Bill
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Gates and Barack Obama. We're gonna hear his story about how he figured out
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simply by making his comfort zone small and his vision big, that he can
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achieve greatness and on a global stage, making real impact into our society with
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education and other things, using artificial intelligence and other different types of programming.
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So, as he puts it, I've got the perfect mix of humor,
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intelligence and human relatability to take our products to new heights. And with deep
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knowledge and experience, I can break down complex topics so that a ten year
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old can understand them. And he does. He'll do that for you,
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our listeners in this next episode. So why don't we welcome the new Acherwall
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and let's hear how he went from two dollars a day, to working with
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Fortune five hundred companies something five one. So welcome to the show, made
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Joe, And I did pronounce your name right, didn't I? Mineuage.
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It's Mineage Minuge, that's what. Sorry, Hey, welcome to the show
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Manuge, And sorry if we put you your name at first. But hey,
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you have a fantastic story of success and something that conspire just about anybody
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because you started from like two dollars a day, which hey, I remember
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my very first job with what I was making three dollars an hour, but
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two dollars a day. That that, like that really beats that the hell.
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And you you your level of success especially in in uh because it's an
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I T and things like that that has been mentioned by Bill Gates and Microsoft,
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uh, the president of the United States when President Obama was in office.
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And so how is we we go from two dollars a day to to
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that level of success? So where'd you let's start from the two dollars a
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day? Where were you? Well, yeah, so two dollars a day.
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Where was when I was growing up in India, I was fifteen and
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I grew up to a small town and in that town, obviously in a
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developing country, you don't have a lot of opportunity there. There was not
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even a like an opportunity for higher education. So I was working in a
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factory making two dollars a day. But that hardship that pushed me to look
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for something better in life, look for something greater that I can do.
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And as I was trying to figure out what it could be, I learned
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that, you know, obviously I didn't have a lot of resources or contacts.
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What I had was my own ability to learn and produce value in the
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world. So I needed to learn a valuable skill, and I found that
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in technology, bramming and computers, and it turned out that I enjoyed it.
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You know, I enjoyed working with computers, and I was really good
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at it as well. And so that realization earlier on and sort of getting
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into the technology and finding my passion became the most important foundation through which I
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was able to progress. Once that foundation was laid, now I wanted to
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make sure that I stay on the on the top end of that pyramid because
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obviously, even in technology it's there are a lot of people involved around the
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world. So as I was making progress in my career, what I realized
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was that it's always good to take current and always treat your life as more
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of a student, so that you don't ever stop learning. And that sentiment
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that that objective of always learning has really kept me going even to this day.
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When new technologies come out, when new frameworks are released, when new
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ways of doing things are introduced to the world, then if your mindset is
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that of a learner, you always gravitate towards that, and then obviously you
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make some mistakes while learning it, but if you keep at it, you
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learn and get and get better at it. Now, the thing is not
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everything that you learn very useful or monetizable or can be converted into success,
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but many of those things will. Right So a good example could be right
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around the turn of like year two thousand, many new technologies came out,
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even some handheld devices came out, and so we started working with those devices
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and built some software on that, but they didn't really work as well.
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But then in two thousand and I think seven or so, Apple released the
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smartphone, and that exploded. So the skills we learned from the previous generation
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of devices, they were not one hundred person transferable, but we knew how
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to work with devices and what are the constraints and all that. So we
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were able to make rapid progress on that. Then blockchain came out. Now
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AI is on the rise, So when you stay on the forefront of all
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these changes, then you have the advantage of being first in the market.
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The second thing is what I also realized was the more impact you can make
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on other people with whatever you are doing, the better your chances of higher
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success. Meaning if you build software for one person, that will have you
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know, minimal impact, But if you build software for example, we have
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done extend work in education, both for school K to twelve sector as well
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as higher education for universities. We have done a lot of work in healthcare.
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So these fields, when you build a technology, they don't impact one
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or ten or one hundred. They impact millions of people, right because education
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impacts a lot of people. Healthcare impacts a lot of people. So when
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you make these kind of decisions in your life, obviously one single decision is
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not going to lead you to the success. But when you keep repeating that
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again and again and again, it starts to compound on itself and one day
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you realize, oh, you know, Bill Gates is taking notice, or
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Obama is taking notice, or I'm sitting across next to the director of CIA,
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or you know, uh uh a vice president of a fortune five hundred
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company or what have you. So a lot of those micro decisions they add
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up eventually, and it's the compounding effect, right, right, So,
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so a lot of what I heard was especially one impact is like a lot
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of people, they they focus on how they can how they can can make
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an impact that it affects a small group of people. But when you focus
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on affecting, when you're trying to make an impact on humanity, you start
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to find the higher levels of success. And exactly you went from from being
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handed a vision with that then that factory of two dollars a day, to
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creating your own vision. How does one change your mindset so that they can
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can go from because many people are like, oh, well they're gonna hay
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me whatever they want me to have. Anyway, go from that mindset to
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mindset of I can create a better vision for humanity. See, that is
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a personal choice more than anything else. Right, It's a choice, But
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that choice takes courage because the first resistance when you make that choice will be
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from the people around you, you know, even in many cases your close
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friends and family, your your boyfriend, your spouse, Because what you can
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see as vision, it's not easy for other people to see that. And
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when you share your vision initially, it will not be you know, fully
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baked. It will be very vague, it will be very outlandish. Like
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I shared my vision with some people when I was working in a factory,
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and I was like, Okay, you know this software, this technology can
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change the world in many, many ways that I cannot even imagine. But
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I know that if we work with this technology, I think we can change
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millions of lives. And people were like, okay, you know, just
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settle down, like come back to earth, you know, like yeah,
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you know, pass me whatever you are smoking. You can't even pay your
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rent, and you're talking about impacting millions of lives. But then the idea
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is that you take that feedback and not let it affect you, but turn
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Okay, how do you how do you put your ideas in front of people
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in such a way that it does not make them uncomfortable, Because when you
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share a big vision with somebody who does not have a big vision, it
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makes them uncomfortable. And when that apples they will suppress you. They will
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try to, you know, mock you to make sure that they don't feel
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uncomfortable. That's the realization you need to have that your vision is practical.
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I mean basically like you can achieve anything. Look at like a guy like
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Elon Musk. The guy wants to go to Mars right right, And if
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he did not have all these achievements behind him, the world would have called
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him crazy, isn't it. But since he has made you know, successful
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companies, now people believe in his vision. But even I think if you
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read his biography or something like in two thousand and four, I think he
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went to Russia to buy some rockets and they were laughing at him. They
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were like, you know, get out of here, and you know what,
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He's going to give you a rocket and he built his own rocket company.
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Idea is that once you find that vision, have the conviction to follow
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through, and you don't need millions of dollars or you know a lot of
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things, just small little steps that you can take to accomplish that vision.
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The whole point about compounding is the best way to describe it. When you
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deposit one dollar in your bank account and it starts to compound day after day
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after day, and you keep depositing one dollar a day. You know,
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in a few years you don't even realize how much it has ballooned up to.
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Because the law of this does not only apply to money, but it
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also applies to your action. So those small micro decisions you take every day,
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and you small actions you take every day, you know whether the decision
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that could be I have one hour, do I watch a show on Netflix
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and waste that one hour, or maybe read a book or something more educational,
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or learn a new skill that can really help me in realizing my vision
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that one hour today will compound over multiple years. Right, and so those
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are the things that you have the power to decide, and nobody else has
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the power to decide. The problem is people don't take initiative and they don't
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have the courage when ridiculed by other people because they give in and they say,
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oh, I don't want to be laughed at because I have this vision,
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so they suppress that vision. Right, right, Well, it's safe
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to say that we should be passionate about our vision and keep driving towards it,
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right exactly exactly, so for you, like everybody else's success. It
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wasn't exactly the the the easiest of roads. What happened when you guys,
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if if something went wrong and you almost got sidetracked, I stressed out the
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almost part. The thing is that people need to realize. Everybody who seems
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to be successful it's like Iceberg, right, So people see the top ten
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percent of the success, but the ninety percent of the failures and the you
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know, all the miseries and all the difficult days that you have to get
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through to get to that success that nobody sees. Only the person who has
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gone through it sees that. And I've had so many challenges, many many
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challenges, you know, with my personal relationships, with my parents, with
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my spouse now my ex spouse. I went into depression. I was soucidal
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at one point. So a lot of these challenges happen in life. But
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we have to realize success and these challenges are basically the two sides of the
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same coin. If you don't have those challenges, you will not have enough
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power or courage or the learnings that you really need to climb that mountain.
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Right, So you really so let's say, if you want to climb Mount
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Everest, you have to spend months and months and months in the gym to
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be ready for that client. Ratherwise it will not happen. So it's the
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same thing with any difficulty in life. In my opinion, in my experience,
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and I've talked to so many super successful people, it's all those challenges
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that actually prepare you for the final success. So I always advise people look
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at challeng and any challenge in your life with with awe curiosity and a sense
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of enthusiasm, because you know, once that challenge has been overcome, that
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is going to give you new learning, new powers, new ways of thinking.
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That will be the you know, the resources that you need for that
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final push towards the vision that you have for your life. So always always
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look for those challenges and and and those are opportunities for growth basically. So
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look for the challenges to help help us learn and grow exactly. They're not
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there to stop as they're they're there to teach us. Yeah. Yeah,
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And practically anybody listening can think of it this way, right, You can
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look back at your life, own life, and you can say, okay,
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you know, what were the periods of growth for you? When did
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you feel okay, the world is rewarding you, and you were happy and
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you know everything was working out. You can look at that and you can
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write it down on a piece of paper. All those instances, I can
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guarantee that most, if not all, at least seventy five percent of those
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cases were immediately preceded by some sort of a challenge. Yeah, okay,
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so you overcome that challenge and then things started working all of a sudden and
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everything was going your way. Right, So it is just like you remember
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in school, before we get the certificate, before we move on to the
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next grade, there is an exam. There is a challenge to make sure
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that you have learned enough so that you can progress to the next level.
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If you play a video game, you know, you fight a little soldiers
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and then before you move to the next level, you have to fight the
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big boss. It's the big challenge, right, So this pattern repeats everywhere
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in life, right, overcome the challenge and move to the next level.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, Because a lot of people
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they they they're like, oh, oh I didn't I didn't overcome the challenge,
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and they throw on the talent. They give up. It's like,
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so we have to keep If we don't get over the challenge the first time,
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we got to go right back to it again, right exactly. See,
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the thing is there's nothing. See. Everybody needs to find their own
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level of tolerance to pain, right. Some people have lower tolerance to pain.
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Some people have higher tolerance to pain. Meaning I'm not physically fit enough
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to do a three hundred pound bench press. If I try that, I
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will hurt myself. Yeah, right, I get that. I have I
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have to. I have to, you know, do what I can manage.
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But the thing is that if you you are, your pain of staying
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the way you are is bigger than that challenge, then it pushes you forward.
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Right. So let's say, if I want to look a certain way,
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if I want to have a really strong muscular body, and if I
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don't have that, I feel more pain in my like mental pain or or
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whatever. That causes me to go to the gym and prain as much as
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I can until I'm fit enough to do a three hundred pound bench press,
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right right. But if that pain is not big enough, like I'm okay,
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you know, I'm satisfied with the way my body looks like, then
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I will find what drives me whatever. So what I tell people is to
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make sure your comfort zone is very small. Do not have a large comfort
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zone, because when your comfort zone is small, then you don't have a
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lot of room to stay in that comfort zone. You have to step out
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into the unknown, into a challenging environment to grow. But if you have
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a very big comfort zone, then you find reasons. You know, I'll
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do it next year. You know, I'll do it when I have this
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much money. I'll do it when I have when I reach a certain status
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or what have you. Right, But if you say, okay, my
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comfort zone is very very small, like you know, I just want this
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kind of lifestyle. If I don't have that, then that means I need
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to do something and make it right. And when that happens, the pain
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is bigger. That pain of staying where you are is bigger than overcoming the
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challenge. Right, So that that becomes your fuel to move forward. That
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makes makes very perfect sense. So I like putting things in kind of math
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terms. Right, So the the size of our comfort zone is is directly
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proportional to the our ability to overcome the challenge. Which I say reversely because
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uh, I know and I know that in my own life that that I
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started building and I and I and I'm still building and I don't plan on
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stopping building until I get to to the to the point where where I want
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to be, and then I'll probably find a reason to keep building from there.
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Also exactly exactly, so you mentioned a I and of course AIS is
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big controversial thing now and I hear I hear people asking me all the time
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it's like, oh, you do podcasts? You use AI? Did to
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help create that podcast? I was like, to an extent, I do,
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but it isn't like the big name thing that people think that it is.
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It also mentioned a couple of timelines and when Bill Gates created that that
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that iPhone, he also created a certain level of AI along with it,
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And when Google created uh, their search engine, they created a certain level
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of AI to go along with that also, didn't they. So so ALI
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has been with us for a long time. Is in other words, since
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probably the year two thousand. AI has been with us. So yeah,
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how do we how do we keep using it so the we don't become lazy
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in there and that we it keeps us growing as a toe. So the
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idea is that first of all, AI have been around since the seventeen and
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definitely since the year two thousand. Pretty much everything is controlled by AI.
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So this recording that we are doing right now, we are talking to each
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other sitting, you know, a few few miles away from each other,
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but we are talking in real time with high definition video behind the scenes.
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All that is being controlled by AI to make sure that we are having this
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conversation. If to your smartphone, you know, every little thing on that
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device is controlled by AI. Whatever you read in the news these days,
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everything is AI, and in fact, many news itselfs are created by AI.
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So this this misnomer that this AI just showed up is is not a
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right one. So that's one thing that people need to realize that AI has
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been around for for for a long time and absolutely you know, when you
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mentioned the smartphone and Google, all these are basically very very powerful AI platforms.
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Google in particular, It's It's it's you know, it takes a lot
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of enormous compute power to index the entire Internet, the entire Internet and being
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able to give you an answer within milliseconds about anything that you want to search
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on. So that is not possible with our human mind alone. The machines
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are doing all the thinking, the synthesizing of information, the indexing, the
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you know, the logic to figure out what are you looking for and then
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matching it with the results. So, yes, AI is around everywhere,
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and now it is now going to explode even more because now everyday people,
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people who are not even technical can now use AI to improve their day to
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day lives and their work and become more efficient and become better at communication,
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become more creative. So now we will see an explosion of AI and how
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it will change the world. It is unimaginable to give you a few ideas.
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I believe in the next fifteen to twenty years, we will not be
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humans, will not be allowed to drive cars on street. AI will do
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all the driving. Okay, in the next seven to ten years, I
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believe there will be companies going public with one single employee only the CEO and
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the rest of the whole company is being managed by these kind of shifts.
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Massive shifts are going to happen in our society. So if if AI is
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taking over, like say, our ability to drive, right, I know
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I do a lot of thinking while I'm while I'm driving, and if the
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vehicle is driving itself because of the of the intelligence, then I would be
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able to think more about, Hey, how can I build a vessel to
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reach to say not only Mars, but let's say too because we get well,
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we do have to consider some physics with this. Say, uh,
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say to Pluto and actually reach Pluto and say half the time that it took
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because the last thing it took it took like twenty years for it to get
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there or whatever it is, So we can do it in say ten years
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or five years. So I be able to think about that. And that's
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what I'm asking there is not people are talking about ai AS is saying it's
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going to make us lazier. But what if it enriched us so that we
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can actually achieve bigger things and spread humanity further across our solar system? Yes,
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yes, sorry I missed that part of the question. Yeah. See
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technology, technology is always invented to make our lives more convenient. Okay,
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So humans have this dual personality. We are the laziest species on the planet.
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Okay, we want convenience. So imagine how evolution of humans work.
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We were living in the case, you know, hunting and gad and whenever
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we needed food, We went out of our caves and got some food,
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and you know, life was easy. But one day some humans said,
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you know what, like I don't like going out every day for food.
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Let me figure out the way to kill a large animal like a mammoth or
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an elephant, and I'll store the meat for thirty days and I don't have
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to do anything, right, And then they started inventing ways to kill a
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large animal. And now that analogy continues to this day. You know,
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the invention and discoveries of everything was to make our lives convenient for something.
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Right Now, when life become convenient, we have the luxury to invest our
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time in higher purpose goals. Right. So, just two hundred years ago,
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two hundred, not even two hundred, maybe even one hundred and fifty
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years ago, ninety eight to ninety nine percent of the human population used to
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work twelve to sixteen hours a day, seven days a week, just to
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put food on the table, right right, So, in that aspect,
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when you're working so hard, how do you even have mental or physical capacity
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to think about you know, self development, to think about how to navigate
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to other planets and how to you know, make an impact you cannot do
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that. So when these inventions give us the extra energy and the time,
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then we are able to think about the higher level purpose. You know,
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there's a famous triangle Maslow's hierarchy of needs. So in that Maslow's hierarchy of
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needs, the bottom most is your necessities food, water, air. Once
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those needs are met, then you can move on the higher level needs like
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you know, self awareness and finding your true purpose and things of that nature.
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So now coming back to AI, when we are free to uh,
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you know, let AI do the drudgery of the work. Drudgery meaning we
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all have to do things that we don't really like. Like, for example,
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you know, when I'm running my business, I don't like doing accounting
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books. I don't like going through numbers that sort of gives me anxiety,
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and still have to do it because you know, that's part of the job.
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But when AI is over is able to take over that drudgery, then
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I can really focus on the things that I enjoy and now I can do
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much more. I can be much more creative, I can be much more
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sort of forward thinking in my approach. So just like your example is,
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if A is doing the driving, then you don't have to you know,
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use your mind to keep track of traffic lanes or traffic signs, or worry
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about somebody or worry about somebody hitting you. You can just focus on what
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your vision is for your future. Right. So the other aspect is as
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technology gets adopted, the mindset of society also changes. Right. So today
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we think that technology may make us lazy. But then if we go back
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even twenty years, if we had to have this conversation, I would have
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had to travel to your place or you would have had to travel to my
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place. Right right now, we can do that by saving that time.
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So one could say, are we getting lazy? I mean, you know,
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why can't you just go and meet somebody face to face. That's lazy,
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you know, That's what we would I've said twenty years ago. But
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now, uh, you know, this communication remotely has become of life.
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Right. So, so as technology evolves, we also evolve in our attitude.
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All these uh technological advances changes. Yeah. Yeah, to to that,
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to that answer, I had to say that while in the past,
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with with in journalism everything you could you could probably report on one story a
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day. Now with technology today, I will probably produce just from my own
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desk, I will probably produce at least of, uh say, three podcast
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episodes because hey, technology enables me to capture a conversation with you, go
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on to another another site, another YouTube site, and capture, say,
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maybe a conversation that happened in New York City in the United Nations, or
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on the with the World Health Organization in Geneva, and I still was still
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physically here, and I'm able to produce that conversation just after your conversation.
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So in that way, it makes it makes us a little more productive exactly.
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But there are there are still other fears along with the technology, and
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those fears have never gone away. Going if we went back to the eighteen
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hundreds with farm equipment, Oh what do you mean You're not using the horse
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and buggy anymore? Why are you using a steam engine? Oh? That's
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oh, that will never work. So how do we keep getting over the
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idea of of that's scary, that will never work and get to the point
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of let's just embrace the new idea. See this goes back to our earlier
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point that humans want to stay safe. Right as society and I mean even
36:21
as an individual and society, we want to stay safe. And what is
36:24
safe is the known, is the current way of doing things. So when
36:30
somebody comes along and says, hey, by the way, whatever you are
36:34
doing right now, it's great, but I have a better way. Will
36:37
you like to try that? Now? That brings uncertainty, that brings unknown,
36:44
uncharted territory, and not many people are comfortable with that. In fact,
36:50
according to and this is based on solid decades of research, only two
36:57
point five percent of the human population is comfortable with unknown. They are the
37:04
innovators, they are the risk takers. So two point five percent out of
37:08
eight billion people are responsible for thinking about new ideas and then pursuing them,
37:15
bringing them to life. And then they have to convince the other ninety seven
37:22
point five percent to utilize their ideas and adopt them and get thereby in And
37:29
that's a very slow process, right, two point five against ninety seven point
37:34
five. It's not an easy equation. But people who persist, who keep
37:38
on saying no, no, no, please try it. I know this
37:40
is the right way, they eventually convert enough people that it starts to become
37:46
a snowball effect. Yeah, right, so AI is the same thing,
37:51
right now, A lot of I mean frankly speaking, the reason why we
37:55
are talking about AI is because it actually goes adopted so fast. Around one
38:02
billion people have started using chat GPT in the last six months. Yeah,
38:08
so that's more than ten percent of human population. Means this innovation actually convinced
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not only the two point five percent of the innovators in the world, but
38:22
the rest of seven point five percent also within six months. That's how powerful.
38:29
This is. Not juport of chat GPT because I wasn't going to mention
38:35
it specifically. That is the one program that everybody saying, well, why
38:38
why because I don't use it. And the reason why I don't use it
38:44
is because it doesn't fit what I'm doing. Okay, so they're being said,
38:50
they're being said. So people are like looking at me like I'm the
38:52
out wire because I say that it doesn't fit what I'm doing. But at
38:59
the same time, I do use AI because in one of our more successful
39:05
films, there was traffic noise in it and Final Cut pro uploaded this this
39:15
AI fix that I ran it through the It's like there's traffic meeds, you
39:20
can hardly hear somebody talking from the cars running past them, and the AI
39:25
program that they put into it, isolated the voice and remove the traffic noise.
39:31
Now is he you can see the car go past our subject, but
39:37
you can't hear the car. So I was like, it's not that using
39:43
the AI is just we have to pick and choose which AI fits. So
39:49
how how do we make sure that we're using the the rate tools to support
39:53
our vision? See, the thing is that we have to think about AI
40:00
as not a product, but a technology, and a technology that can be
40:05
implemented in many many ways. So to answer your question, it is like
40:08
saying that I want to drive a car, but I don't like Toyota.
40:14
I want to drive Honda. Right the next door the next door neighbor may
40:19
want to drive a Forward and another my cousin may want to drive a BMW.
40:24
There's nothing wrong with that choice. It's whatever appeals to them, right,
40:30
And these companies are using the same underlying infrastructure. At the end of
40:37
the day, they have some differences, but fundamental principles of a vehicle remain
40:43
the same. So we pick the right product based on our preferences. Based
40:50
on our preferences, but the underlying technology is if KRGPT doesn't work for you
40:55
or it is not useful for you, and you are more in the domain
41:00
of our more in the domain of audio video kind of content, and you
41:05
use AI specifically for that medium that works for you. Right, somebody else
41:09
has more geared towards graphics, so for them mid journey or something some other
41:15
tools that create graphics that may be more suitable. So there is no there
41:22
is no like you know, uh standard that we all have to adopt a
41:28
certain product. It's based on our life, it's based on our work and
41:31
our preference, right right, So we have to be willing to make the
41:37
choice this best for us exactly exactly right, and not just say, oh,
41:42
well the guy next door did it. And that's one of the things
41:46
that that one of the reasons why I read it you on the show,
41:52
because because in order for you to go from two hours a day to to
41:59
over I don't even know what your company is worth, and it doesn't matter
42:04
that how much is worth, but how much impact is making. In order
42:07
for it to do that, you had to say, hey, I'm not
42:12
going to stay with what everybody else around me is doing. I'm going to
42:16
go I'm going to decide to do something different exactly and that's where we're trying
42:22
to get people to do, inspire them to do something different, right exactly.
42:28
So yeah, the idea is to utilize these these technologies, embrace them,
42:36
not given to the fear, stick to your vision, and take consistent
42:39
action and yeah, then you can change. You can change the world,
42:44
make a big impact. So final thoughts, because I just realized that we're
42:52
like our conversation like it took off like a rocket. Final thoughts here,
43:01
and then tell everybody how to get a hold of you it maybe work with
43:06
you if if it fits, what is the ultimate impact that you want to
43:14
make on how people think? On how people think? Yeah, I well
43:22
see. The thing is that we all have untapped potential. You know,
43:25
if if a person like me, who's an who did not have a lot
43:30
in terms of education or contact or even English not being my first language and
43:38
being an immigrant in Canada, if if somebody like me can achieve big things,
43:44
then imagine people who have much more advantage, people who have world class
43:49
education, people who have you know, other experiences, what can they do
43:54
to impact the world. The idea is that we put a lot of boundaries
44:00
around ourselves, and what I would love for people to do is recognize those
44:06
boundaries and figure out ways. And of course I have developed my own methods
44:12
to do that, teach people who I work with how to overcome those boundaries.
44:19
But that's what I want people to do, like not recognize those boundaries
44:23
and have the skills and the frameworks in place to cross those boundaries, because
44:30
that's where the growth is. When you cross that boundary, you are you
44:35
have no idea what you can achieve, what kind of impact you can make.
44:38
So if you don't do that, you're actually doing this to humanity by
44:45
bringing out that gift that you have inside you and making the impact that you
44:51
can make. MM. Beautiful. Yeah, persuad of you find me on
45:01
LinkedIn and let me know you heard me on this podcast and what are you
45:06
trying to do and how can I help? Awesome, So thank you so
45:12
much for joining us today. You know what, uh I didn't know what
45:16
what really to expect when when I first met you, and and uh I
45:22
had to say that that the impact you're making with the technology that you're using
45:28
and everything and developing, UH you're doing you're doing great things. And it's
45:34
honored to have have you come on and speak with us today. So thank
45:37
you, thank you so much. Yeah, that's all great. Thanks so
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