Latest / The K.B. Radio Network / Remembering Hulk Hogan 1953-2025
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- 0:06Well,
- 0:06hello everyone and welcome to Faces and Heels,
- 0:09your podcast for professional wrestling here on the KB Radio Network.
- 0:15I am your host,
- 0:15Kevin Reed,
- 0:16and today is a sad day in professional wrestling to a lot of people as the wrestling community mourns the loss of the icon,
- 0:28the legend.
- 0:29the immortal hulk hogan who passed away at the ripe young age of 71 years old yes hulk hogan has moved on to the big wrestling ring in the sky this was a episode that i'm
- 0:47be honest with you i was kind of on the fence with talking about it but cooler minds prevailed because i had my opinions of of hulk hogan
- 0:59And
- 1:00I'm torn because it's a situation where my love for professional wrestling,
- 1:06how I came to love it,
- 1:08and what got me to watch it as a youngster was Hulk Hogan.
- 1:14Him in his initial run in the WWF at the time,
- 1:20and that's what drew me to professional wrestling.
- 1:25His feuds with...
- 1:26andre the giant you know him teaming up with mr t and uh the feud with uh rowdy roddy piper and the mega powers uniting and you know things of that nature that's what drew me to professional wrestling and that's why i love professional wrestling to this day and it is because of this man and
- 1:48then there's the other half of me it's the other half of me you know that old
- 1:54Expression you shouldn't meet your heroes,
- 1:56and I never met
- 1:59Hulk Hogan personally face to face
- 2:02But that expression it goes true when it comes to him because as the older we got as time passed on we got to peel the layers back and know the real
- 2:14Hulk Hogan and
- 2:17You found out that he's a racist.
- 2:19He's a liar and he said he was everything else in
- 2:22I'd grew
- 2:23to despise the man so it was it was kind of hard to come to grips with this show like should i even do the show should i even talk about hulk hogan after all that he said and did that came to light in the past what 20 years and
- 2:42it's it's kind of disturbing well not kinda it's disturbing and so how i fixed it in my mind whether it's right or wrong maybe you could tell me
- 2:52but this is how i fixed it in my mind i will always be a fan of hulk hogan i can't take it away i can't take away his iconic status as a professional wrestler the the
- 3:09things that he did in the ring and the promos that he did the epic hill turn that took place at wcw and and so on and So
- 3:21I can't take away all of those iconic moments that we got to experience because of Hulk
- 3:29Hogan.
- 3:30But Terry
- 3:32Bollea, on the other hand,
- 3:35I can't stand him.
- 3:37I despise him as a human being.
- 3:40So
- 3:41I'm just going to celebrate Hulk Hogan.
- 3:44Now,
- 3:44it's not to shy away from the person that he is outside of the ring.
- 3:51But
- 3:53I can't take away the fact of
- 3:56Hulk Hogan being one of,
- 3:58if not the greatest professional wrestlers of all time.
- 4:01As much as it pains me to say,
- 4:04you know,
- 4:05you can't take away what that man did in the ring and for the professional wrestling business.
- 4:13It is iconic,
- 4:15man.
- 4:16We wouldn't be here today.
- 4:18We wouldn't be experiencing.
- 4:21The joy of
- 4:23WWE and AEW and TNA and,
- 4:28you know,
- 4:28New Japan and all this other good stuff.
- 4:31I don't think this would be around if
- 4:34Hulk Hogan was not the iconic figure that he was in the
- 4:4080s. Where professional wrestling just took off globally.
- 4:45You know,
- 4:45it wasn't just a territorial thing.
- 4:47It became global.
- 4:49And it was global.
- 4:50because of hulk hogan is is similar to the nba for you basketball fans uh the nba
- 4:58was a good league,
- 5:00a good product,
- 5:02until
- 5:03Michael Jordan came along.
- 5:05Michael Jordan just took the NBA to a whole other stratosphere.
- 5:10It became a global phenomenon because of Michael Jordan.
- 5:15And so,
- 5:17Hulk Hogan is,
- 5:19I guess you could say,
- 5:21the Michael Jordan of professional wrestling.
- 5:23Now,
- 5:24there are better wrestlers.
- 5:25You would never hear me say on...
- 5:28any any uh show blog whatever that he's the greatest wrestler ever no he's not even a good one he was never good in the ring his in-ring work was not the greatest he had four moves
- 5:45four that's it but what made hulk hogan special was the four moves that he made special he he was able to drag out a match that was so entertaining.
- 5:58that you couldn't help but acknowledge the fact that he is the GOAT,
- 6:03you know?
- 6:04I think back to probably his greatest match,
- 6:08and this is just my humble opinion.
- 6:10Everybody has a different one.
- 6:12Some may say the match he had with
- 6:15Macho Man Randy Savage or the match he had with
- 6:21Ric Flair back in the day.
- 6:22But my all-time favorite match,
- 6:25and I think it's his greatest match,
- 6:28was the Wrestlemania 18 I believe with
- 6:33Hollywood Hulk Hogan versus The Rock.
- 6:36That was the greatest
- 6:39Hulk Hogan match I've ever seen.
- 6:41It's probably one of the best
- 6:43Wrestlemania matches I've ever seen.
- 6:45Not the best,
- 6:46but one of the best Wrestlemania matches I've ever seen.
- 6:50To see a double heel turn,
- 6:52or a double turn I should say,
- 6:54take place right there on the spot in that moment and...
- 6:58for Hogan and The Rock to fully acknowledge the moment.
- 7:03The pop that that crowd gave in Toronto for Hulk Hogan was epic,
- 7:11man.
- 7:11It's still to this day.
- 7:13That's one of the only matches I go back on YouTube and watch.
- 7:18And watch it in its entirety.
- 7:20I love that match.
- 7:23And that's the only Hogan match I would go back and watch multiple times.
- 7:28It was just cinema,
- 7:30man.
- 7:31It was beautiful to watch that match.
- 7:35Today,
- 7:36I decided we're going to go through the history of Hulk Hogan and go through his career.
- 7:42And unfortunately,
- 7:42we're going to touch in on some of his life,
- 7:47some of Terry's shenanigans as well.
- 7:51But we're not going to skimp.
- 7:54point we're gonna talk about the man you know as he passed away and it is sad now you know no matter how i feel about him personally and you know the things that he stood for and whatnot that i vehemently
- 8:10disagree with i just uh i feel compelled to talk about him so we're gonna talk about the immortal hulk hogan
- 8:20who passed away today on july the 24th just a couple of weeks shy of his
- 8:2772nd birthday he was born on august the 11th 1953 in augusta georgia under the giving name of terry bellaire and terry wanted to be a professional wrestler since the age of 16 he began watching professional wrestling than going
- 8:46to,
- 8:47uh...
- 8:48shows at his local Sportatorium and one day he got old you know used to have cards baseball guards football cards and whatnot
- 8:59I don't know if they still do but I used to collect football cards,
- 9:02but that's besides the point he had wrestling cards and one of the cards he had was of superstar
- 9:08Billy Graham and
- 9:10He fell in love with that for see he fell in love with the way superstar Billy Graham looked
- 9:17and he wanted to emulate that look and so he started you know working out and doing everything he could to emulate that look and so while he was doing that he also dabbled in uh being
- 9:33a musician he used to play the bass guitar for several local bands in his uh while he was in high school and whatnot in community college.
- 9:44And so he was,
- 9:45he was.
- 9:46really deep into it you know to the point where two other local musicians around the area where he lived they formed a band uh ruckus
- 9:57back in 1976.
- 10:00And so they started doing gigs at local clubs and wherever they can get the gigs at.
- 10:08And all the while,
- 10:10during his spare time,
- 10:13Terry would work out at a local gym in
- 10:17Tampa Bay.
- 10:18And so he would lift and do all that good stuff.
- 10:22And many wrestlers from that area would go to that gym.
- 10:26to work out and they noticed old terry got to know him a little bit and he told him that he's in the band they're performing at such and such club and so they'll come and see him at the club so uh two of the individuals that
- 10:42would come would be the briscoe brothers i'm pretty sure a lot of people who uh were around for the attitude error of the wwf or wwe you remember jerry briscoe
- 10:56It was him and his brother.
- 10:58And so they would go see this band,
- 11:01and they looked at the bass guitar player,
- 11:03and they're like,
- 11:04hey,
- 11:05that dude looks good.
- 11:08He looks like he can actually perform,
- 11:10you know.
- 11:12Let's see what he got.
- 11:13So they invited him to train at their wrestling school or whatever,
- 11:20and one thing led to another.
- 11:22The Bershko brothers asked him.
- 11:24to try out wrestling and he agreed you know being a big fan of it so terry he quit the band he began training and the rest as they say is history um he started in one training session i think it was his first one if
- 11:42i read it right he he was in the ring with hero matasaka and he broke terry villaria's League.
- 11:54the first training section and so he had to do ten weeks of rehab and
- 12:01When he returned after the ten weeks
- 12:04He asked the briscoes like look
- 12:07I would do this,
- 12:08but I don't want to work with hero that that's not happening
- 12:13That's not happening.
- 12:15And so they agreed and they
- 12:18Had him work with other people in the promotion.
- 12:20It's so
- 12:22While working for this small promotion,
- 12:24this is where he met Brutus the Beefcake,
- 12:27who became his lifelong friend.
- 12:30The two,
- 12:30as we all know,
- 12:31end up working together again in WWF for a good while.
- 12:36And I believe,
- 12:37did Brutus the Beefcake end up going to
- 12:39WC... I think he...
- 12:40I think so.
- 12:41I think everybody ended up going to
- 12:43WCW at some point.
- 12:47But anywho,
- 12:48around this time...
- 12:50Uh...
- 12:51he was trying to come up with a name for his character in the ring and the big show on television around this era late 70s was of course the incredible hawk and what it was uh
- 13:07i believe terry was on this local television show the talk show or whatever it was and lou farigno was on the show with them is in
- 13:19you know lou ferigno played the hawk on that show and he's looking at lou ferigno he like yeah you playing the hawk you know because terry dropped him he was bigger than him you know terry bella he was six seven 295 pounds he had the 24 inch biceps and so he's like i'm
- 13:40bigger than you i deserve to be the hawk so that's where the name the hawk came from so uh he
- 13:49began going by the name Terry the Hulk Boulder and he sometimes also wrestled under the name Sterling Golden which I don't know where that came from I guess because the blonde hair but whatever the case may be uh Terry the Hulk Boulder was his real first
- 14:07official wrestling gimmick name so we transport to December the 1st 1971
- 14:16I was actually born during this time so now it starts
- 14:18the world's starting to make sense to me and so we got at least this part of his story uh december of 1979 terry won the first professional wrestling championship the nwa southeastern
- 14:37heavyweight championship in the northern division uh remember around this time there were territories there weren't they you didn't have just
- 14:47promotions you didn't have just wwe aew tna and so on and so forth there were promotions all over
- 14:56because down here was mid-south uh down here in the new orleans area but anyways that title was only recognized in alabama and tennessee it wasn't right it was wasn't recognized anywhere else but just a month later january of 1980 he ended up dropping the title to bob armstrong um
- 15:19after that he briefly wrestled in georgia championship wrestling that territory and
- 15:26And then he got the phone call that changed his life and millions of other lives around the world.
- 15:33When former NWA world champion Terry Funk introduced Terry to the WWF owner and promoter,
- 15:41Vincent J.
- 15:43McMahon.
- 15:44Yes,
- 15:44the father,
- 15:46not Vinnie Mac.
- 15:49But he introduced him to Big Vince there,
- 15:52who was impressed with...
- 15:55terry's charisma and uh his his physical prowess and whatnot so mcmahon wanted him to use an irish name and so he gave him the last name hogan but he also wanted him to dye his hair red so he can go full irish gimmick here but
- 16:14around this time and this was uh 1980 1979 1980 um
- 16:21Terry told him,
- 16:22look,
- 16:23my hair is already falling out.
- 16:25I don't want to use dye.
- 16:27I'll be bald by the end of the year.
- 16:29So I'm just going to keep it blonde,
- 16:32and I'll be a blonde Irish.
- 16:35And there you had it,
- 16:37the birth of Hulk
- 16:39Hogan. So that's how we arrived at this name.
- 16:43So
- 16:44Terry wrestled his first match in
- 16:47WWE when he defeated Harry
- 16:50Valdez.
- 16:51uh what that was november the
- 16:5417th on championship wrestling he made his first appearance at madison square garden in december of 1979 when he defeated ted debiocity and he defeated him not with the leg drop but
- 17:11with a bear hug that was his finishing move that was his finishing move back in the day and he beat ted debiocity
- 17:19What made that interesting,
- 17:20after the match,
- 17:23Terry was so appreciative to Ted Deveosity,
- 17:27and he told him that he owed him one.
- 17:31And he did end up repaying it years later.
- 17:34It took him some time,
- 17:35but years later,
- 17:37when Ted Deveosity returned to WWF under the moniker
- 17:42The Million Dollar Man,
- 17:43and he got that win back on
- 17:46Hulk Hogan.
- 17:47So,
- 17:49during this time,
- 17:51Hogan was still doing other promotions.
- 17:54He was still working with other promotions.
- 17:56You know,
- 17:56this was before it was taboo now.
- 17:59You know,
- 18:00the forbidden door or whatever.
- 18:01But he was working in New Japan.
- 18:05He did that for about five years from 1980 to 1985.
- 18:10The American Wrestling Association from
- 18:131981 to 1983.
- 18:16and then
- 18:17he returned to the WWF in 1983 and that run lasted till 1993 and now this go around uh when he returned in 1983 he wasn't under the tutelage of Vincent
- 18:33J
- 18:34McMahon now it was Vincent
- 18:37K
- 18:38McMahon now this is the uh Vinnie Mac that we all know and love after he bought
- 18:45the company from his father in 1982 and he planned to expand the the company no not just be a territory but a nationwide promotion and we fast forward
- 18:5940 years later now is global now is universal so uh you can say what you want about vince uh vince had a vision and look at it now and he hand-picked hulk hogan
- 19:14to be the company's centerpiece you know due to his charisma and this recognition you know name recognition i should say so uh that was a good choice to kind of put the company on hawk hogan's back at the time so hogan he returned to television and
- 19:32began a feud with none other than the iron sheik and if anybody follows uh uh pro wrestling for any amount of time you know that
- 19:43The Iron Sheik did not like
- 19:48Hulk Hogan and I mean
- 19:50I'm putting it mildly I'm I'm giving it this is probably the nicest
- 19:56description i can give the iron cheek uh in his feelings towards hawk hogan uh god rest his soul he passed away a couple years back as well but my god if they were to link up in heaven it's
- 20:12gonna be a throw down the loser the loser leaves heaven match i i don't know man i think hogan going to hell because it's iron cheek got some disdain for i mean literally to his dying day
- 20:26Literally,
- 20:26the day
- 20:27Iron Sheik passed away,
- 20:29he tweeted,
- 20:31F
- 20:31Hulk Hogan.
- 20:34He never,
- 20:36never hid his feelings about Hulk Hogan.
- 20:39But in any event,
- 20:40that was his first initial feud.
- 20:43When he pinned the Iron Sheik to become the WWF World Heavyweight Champion,
- 20:49that was kind of funky the way it was.
- 20:55And now...
- 20:55it wasn't for all of us watching at home but behind the scenes you see burt bat uh backland was supposed to be the iron sheik's opponent that night for the for the title it didn't go that way next thing you know there
- 21:12was a last minute replacement and it was none other than hawk who won the title and he became champion by way of being the first man to escape
- 21:23the camel clutch which was the iron sheik's finishing move and that made it even worse you know because finishing moves are protected at least they supposed to be not so much these days because my god man if if i watch another premium live event where
- 21:42we get multiple kickouts of multiple finishing moves i'm gonna lose my mind because they're no no longer finishing moves i see more and this is this is my rant
- 21:53portion of the show it has nothing to do with no cold but it is i see more finishes with a surprise roll-up than i actually see from a finishing it is driving me insane as
- 22:09a wrestling fan it drives me insane the only finishing moves lately that i've seen that have been protected is
- 22:22the RKO,
- 22:24the Riptide,
- 22:26and that's about it.
- 22:29Everything else I have seen get kicked out of.
- 22:33I haven't seen nobody's finisher be devastating.
- 22:36You remember the Razor's Edge from
- 22:41Razor Ramon or Scott Hall?
- 22:44That was protected.
- 22:45Nobody ever kicked out of that,
- 22:47ever.
- 22:48The Jack Knight Powerbomb?
- 22:50Never.
- 22:51you know uh the jackknife uh suplex from goldberg never i don't i don't get it man i just i just don't get wrestling these days but anywho's back back to mr uh
- 23:06hawk hogan after he won his championship uh gorilla monsoon who was on commentary at the time he made the proclamation and uh no truer words have been spoken
- 23:19from the commentary desk on any promotion in history when he uttered the words hawk-a-mania is here and boy was it that was the birth of hawk-a-mania and my god he took off from there you know hawk um uh
- 23:38hulk hogan started calling his fans the hawk-a-maniacs uh that's why i consider myself a hawk-a-maniac not so much today but i did back
- 23:49did back then um this is where we got the the uh model the mission statement of hulkamania where it's it training save you say your prayers and eat your vitamins you know all that was became
- 24:05the mantra for little boys and girls around that time you know and then there's the epic hulking up hulking up baby that's where that's where the crowd gets energized
- 24:19Hulk is getting beat down by his opponent,
- 24:23and eventually he stops.
- 24:26You know,
- 24:27he stops selling.
- 24:28And he's shaking his head.
- 24:30He's shaking his arm.
- 24:31Looks like he's having a seizure in the ring.
- 24:33And he's slowly standing up.
- 24:35The opponent is still punching him,
- 24:37trying to get him down.
- 24:39And he's hulking up,
- 24:40man.
- 24:41And once he gets to that stage,
- 24:42you know,
- 24:43it's over.
- 24:44It's nothing you can do.
- 24:45You can ram a Mack truck into him.
- 24:48the mack truck don't stand a chance so that that was that you know it is the point adam you
- 24:57Then there's three punches,
- 24:59an Irish rip,
- 24:59a big boot,
- 25:00and a running leg drop match over.
- 25:03That's it.
- 25:03That's the four.
- 25:04That's the moves.
- 25:06That's it.
- 25:07That was it.
- 25:08But for some strange reason,
- 25:10that worked for
- 25:1135 years,
- 25:12or however long it was that he was doing it.
- 25:16It was flawless,
- 25:17man.
- 25:18But professional wrestling took off at this point.
- 25:22You know,
- 25:22they had their poster child.
- 25:24They had their hero.
- 25:25They had their guy.
- 25:26They can stand behind it,
- 25:27kind of legitimize this sport or whatever you want to describe it as.
- 25:33You know,
- 25:34you had a face that you can put on cereal boxes,
- 25:37a face you can put on toys,
- 25:39a face that you can put on a cartoon,
- 25:43which is what we got.
- 25:47We got,
- 25:48I think it was,
- 25:49what was it called?
- 25:51Rockin'
- 25:51Wrestling or something like that.
- 25:54Yeah,
- 25:54you had that Saturday morning cartoon.
- 25:57You had the first WrestleMania to take place in 1985 where he teamed up with Mr.
- 26:04T.
- 26:05You know,
- 26:06you're like,
- 26:06oh,
- 26:06man.
- 26:07That's cool.
- 26:09That's cool there.
- 26:11You had
- 26:12Saturday Night Main events and all this other good stuff.
- 26:16You got...
- 26:18Him on the cover of Sports Illustrated and being on a Tonight Show and,
- 26:24you know,
- 26:26co-hosting Saturday Night Live.
- 26:28It was just,
- 26:30it was phenomenal,
- 26:31man.
- 26:33It took off like a rocket.
- 26:35And
- 26:37Hulk Hogan was the man.
- 26:39He was the man.
- 26:41You got to WrestleMania when he actually picked up Andre the Giant in body slam.
- 26:47And at the time,
- 26:48I thought that was the most phenomenal thing on God's green earth,
- 26:52you know,
- 26:52because I never seen nobody pick up
- 26:54Andre the Giant and body slam.
- 26:58But as time goes on and you do some research,
- 27:01you know,
- 27:01YouTube exists.
- 27:03You know that
- 27:04Hulk Hogan wasn't the first person to body slam
- 27:09Andre the Giant.
- 27:10But it was epic at the time.
- 27:13It was so epic.
- 27:15And I loved every minute of it because.
- 27:18At the time,
- 27:19I was geeking out for Hulk Hogan,
- 27:22man.
- 27:24The immovable object going against whatever.
- 27:26I forgot how they promoted it.
- 27:29But anyways,
- 27:31it was a main event that was as big as Andre the Giant.
- 27:38And for him to pick up Andre the Giant,
- 27:41body slam him,
- 27:43do the leg drop,
- 27:44get the win,
- 27:46just an amazing.
- 27:47an amazing moment in wrestling and so we fast forward a little bit to another amazing moment and that was the mega pop and i don't know what's more intriguing about the mega mega pop was it these
- 28:04two superstars arguably the two biggest superstars in their era with hulk hogan and the macho man randy savage teaming up i don't know if that was
- 28:16the greatness of it all or was it the behind the scenes of it all you know the mega powers exploding uh that later played out but if you know the true backstory of what really took place man i
- 28:33would i am surprised that uh randy savage didn't kill hawk he was randy savage did not like him but they teamed up together um later they
- 28:46exploded over uh elizabeth miss elizabeth uh because of jealousy and it come to find out that macho man randy savage in real life it was really jealous you know real possessive of miss elizabeth you know and he
- 29:05suspected hulk hogan of sleeping with miss elizabeth now i don't think this has ever been proven nothing i researched that said that this actually took
- 29:15place or or not but it wouldn't shock me if it did but i can't confirm nor deny it fit and that led to them exploding outside the ring and inside there and we had an epic epic showdown
- 29:32between those two uh hulk hogan ended up winning that match and i believe that was at the royal rumble that wasn't a WrestleMania.
- 29:43I think that was a Royal Rumble that they end up fighting or did they end up?
- 29:49No,
- 29:49no,
- 29:49no,
- 29:49no,
- 29:49no.
- 29:50They did fight at WrestleMania.
- 29:51I think it started at the Royal Rumble because
- 29:57I think Hogan.
- 29:59eliminated savage or something like that i can't remember i just watched a documentary on this that's but i can't remember how that went but anywho they did end up meeting up at wrestlemania and hogan beat him again for a second time uh for the title because uh savage was the champion at the time and
- 30:19so that was that um he ended up finishing finishing out that run
- 30:27with the wwf in 1993 he went back to new japan wrestling and uh did a couple of matches there um for about a year i think he wrestled uh muda if i'm not mistaken uh he
- 30:43was all for retiring he was actually going to retire and wcw came calling then now this This is when WCW started to take off,
- 30:54bitch off,
- 30:55became the president.
- 30:56of wcw or whatever his title was and uh he wanted hogan he needed a big name to rival the wwf and that was their goal their goal was to take down ww that
- 31:12that was that was the whole mission of wcw so what would be the knife twisting in the back well not a knife this is more of a machete
- 31:25maybe even a chainsaw in the back it would be their biggest star the star that made them what they are to jump over to the rival and make that company just as big let's
- 31:41hire hawk hogan so hawk hogan was working on his tv show at the time thunder in paradise which is a horrible show as big as a hawk hogan fan as i was back then
- 31:52I could not watch that show.
- 31:54That show was bad.
- 31:56But anyway,
- 31:58the decision for him was he wanted to wrestle
- 32:03Ric Flair,
- 32:04something that fans and everybody in the wrestling community around that time wanted to see.
- 32:11Ric Flair was in WCW.
- 32:14So he decided to go and sign with WCW.
- 32:18I think
- 32:20At one point,
- 32:21they were going to link up in WWF,
- 32:24but Vince McMahon didn't pull the trigger with it.
- 32:28So it was a big disappointment for a lot of people,
- 32:32including me,
- 32:33because I was hot as fish grease that that match never took place in WWF.
- 32:38But we get the opportunity to see it in WCW.
- 32:43Hogan signed in 1994,
- 32:47and he appeared with Jimmy Hart.
- 32:50as his manager at the time.
- 32:53In his debut match,
- 32:55Togan won the WCW World Heavyweight Championship.
- 32:59Are you shocked?
- 33:03When he defeated Ric Flair in a dream match at Bash at the Beach and that kicked off a feud that saw them link up again at Clash of Champions where
- 33:17Flair won by countout.
- 33:19which means he didn't win the title.
- 33:21And so they had a rubble match in a steel cage where
- 33:27Ric Flair's career was on the line.
- 33:28And then you had Mr.
- 33:29T as the special guest referee in that match.
- 33:33And,
- 33:34of course,
- 33:34Hulk Hogan won that match.
- 33:37All this helped WCW,
- 33:39but they didn't quite get there yet.
- 33:42They weren't at the goal they wanted to overtake WWF.
- 33:46So.
- 33:47In 1996,
- 33:50at Bash at the Beach,
- 33:52we got a six-man tag team match.
- 33:55You had the Outsiders,
- 33:57who were Kevin Nash and
- 33:59Scott Hall,
- 33:59who had just defected from
- 34:02WWF and came over to WCW.
- 34:06They took on four members of WCW because the whole angle here was that Kevin Nash and Scott Hall,
- 34:14they were plants.
- 34:15You know,
- 34:15they were sent there.
- 34:16by Vince McMahon to ruin the company and blah blah blah blah and they uh they always said in promos leading up to this match that there's a third man who's the third man and during the match we see that uh Kevin Nash and Scott Hall they're getting up a hand they beating these uh the
- 34:38other team up and Hogan starts to come out he comes out down the ring
- 34:45and he's like all right hogan hogan's gonna fight for the company he's gonna he's gonna help wcw out randy savage is on the ground and you see hogan hit the ropes
- 34:59and do the leg drop on Randy Savage.
- 35:03And everybody was like,
- 35:07what just happened?
- 35:11What just happened here?
- 35:12What is going on?
- 35:14Did
- 35:15Hall and Nash turn face or something?
- 35:17Because the last thing on anybody's mind is Hulk Hogan turning heel.
- 35:23There's no way.
- 35:24There's no way.
- 35:26And sure enough.
- 35:29for the first time in what
- 35:3220 years because he was a heel before he got to wwf you know in the early part of his career uh he was a heel as terry the hulk boulder and uh sterling uh golden whatever his name was yeah
- 35:49he was a heel it wasn't until vince mcmahon got him and turned him into a face as a baby face to be the face of the company and so
- 35:58This was like,
- 36:00what?
- 36:01And
- 36:02Hogan dropped the promo that they are the new world order of professional wrestling,
- 36:09the NWO.
- 36:11And it was off and running.
- 36:13WCW took over.
- 36:1583 weeks.
- 36:1783 weeks in a row.
- 36:20They were the number one wrestling promotion.
- 36:24And all because.
- 36:26of hulk hogan who now goes under hollywood hulk hogan wearing the black and white you know uh eventually winning the championship spraying nwo on that belt and it was just it was amazing and you sit back and you think like
- 36:45i said i gotta keep saying this no matter how you feel about hulk hogan you can't deny his impact on professional wrestling he single-handedly
- 36:56within a 15 year time span brought two rival wrestling promotions to prominence to number one he he made wwf what it was as the made them the number one promotion in the world and
- 37:14turned right around wcw a nothing promotion a little territorial promotion at one point and turned them into the number one promotion.
- 37:26He did it.
- 37:28I can't take that away.
- 37:30He did it.
- 37:31Because up to that point,
- 37:33WCW was struggling.
- 37:34They were struggling bad.
- 37:36I mean,
- 37:36they were doing all right.
- 37:37But as far as being the number one company,
- 37:41no,
- 37:41no,
- 37:41no.
- 37:41They didn't have a shot until
- 37:44Hulk Hogan got there.
- 37:47And so his ring of terror.
- 37:51It lasted for about three years as the NWO did their thing.
- 38:00It was entertaining for a while,
- 38:02and then the bottom fell off when everybody became NWO.
- 38:07It wasn't WCW no more.
- 38:09It was NWO,
- 38:11and it got boring.
- 38:12It got stale,
- 38:13and eventually
- 38:14WWE, as it became around that time,
- 38:19took back the number one spot.
- 38:22One thing that did come out good,
- 38:26one of his better matches in WCW,
- 38:29as far as I can remember,
- 38:31was,
- 38:32of course,
- 38:33the match between Goldberg.
- 38:35When Goldberg won the WCW
- 38:38World Heavyweight Championship on Nitro.
- 38:42That was crazy within his own right,
- 38:45because why Nitro?
- 38:47That is a pay-per-view match in the making.
- 38:51That is money.
- 38:52but they gave it away for free.
- 38:54I'm not mad at them because I didn't want to spend $50 on a pay-per-view anyway.
- 38:59Thank you,
- 39:00Eric Bischoff.
- 39:01But it was an epic moment for the company.
- 39:07Even in a loss,
- 39:08Hogan still found a way to put the company over.
- 39:13So from that moment on,
- 39:14and I think maybe a year,
- 39:16probably could have been less than a year after he lost to Goldberg,
- 39:20he kind of reverted back.
- 39:22to the babyface hogan that we know the real american hogan that we know and uh kind of finish it finished it off and what that was
- 39:332000 i think the year 2000 that's when we got that uh hogan and what's his name vince russo debacle once again that bash at the beach uh i don't know what it is about bass at the
- 39:50bash at the beach but it's always something epic that takes place with Hogan either he wins the title turns heel or curses out the head of creative on the microphone one of the two but that was the last
- 40:06very last appearance of
- 40:09Hulk Hogan in WCW.
- 40:11And,
- 40:12you know,
- 40:12it is monumental just to say that,
- 40:16but it wasn't that long after that
- 40:19Vince McMahon bought WCW and that was the last appearance for anybody at WCW.
- 40:26But after his departure from WCW,
- 40:31he did some,
- 40:33he wasn't really wrestling,
- 40:35you know.
- 40:35until
- 40:382002 and Vince McMahon brought in
- 40:43W, uh,
- 40:44he brought in
- 40:45NWO, which was the greatest symbol of Vince McMahon only cares about money because all three men,
- 40:54all three men left
- 40:57WWE on bad terms when they,
- 40:59when they,
- 41:00uh,
- 41:00initially left,
- 41:02uh,
- 41:02Scott Hall and,
- 41:03uh,
- 41:04Kevin Nash,
- 41:05they left under crazy circumstances.
- 41:07And then,
- 41:10of course,
- 41:10Hulk Hogan,
- 41:11you had the steroid trial that pitted those two guys against each other and all this.
- 41:18I didn't really go into all that because
- 41:21I'm trying to stay positive for this episode.
- 41:24But there's a lot that took place behind the scenes of that that led to
- 41:29Hulk Hogan leaving the
- 41:32WWF the first run.
- 41:34But they came back in 2002.
- 41:39And I'm going to tell you,
- 41:39bro,
- 41:41once again,
- 41:41this is what led up to the rock match at WrestleMania.
- 41:48Initially,
- 41:50initially,
- 41:51it was supposed to be Stone Cold Steve Austin versus Hollywood Hawk Hogan at WrestleMania.
- 41:56You know,
- 41:56the two biggest stars at the time.
- 41:59Steve Austin declined it.
- 42:01He ended up wrestling Scott Hall.
- 42:03at wrestlemania that year uh something to that effect i forgot who said who who didn't want to wrestle who it depends on who you asked on what day but it didn't take place so that morphed into option b hollywood
- 42:19hulk hogan taking on the rock and man like i said before despite the fact that hogan was supposed to be the heel in that match and the rock came in as the babyface
- 42:32the crowd turned the crowd cheered for hogan so hard i i'm gonna tell you bro when i watched it when i first watched that i think that was what 2002 when i first watched that i i had tears in my eyes because i was thinking back thinking back of
- 42:52me as a little boy watching wrestling And I remember when Hogan,
- 42:58it was this storyline that ran.
- 43:01back in the 80s where hogan was going to retire and all this here and i was depressed and they had announced that hogan was going to uh speak to everybody on i think it was a saturday night main event or some one of those shows i think yeah it was saturday night main event and
- 43:21he came out and it was somber the way he was talking it didn't he say like yes everybody want to know if i'm gonna retire.
- 43:31Hell no,
- 43:32I'm not ready.
- 43:33And the way he did,
- 43:34I remember running out and telling my dad,
- 43:36and I had tears in my eyes just telling my dad,
- 43:39he's not ready.
- 43:41He's still going to wrestle.
- 43:43And I just thought back to those moments,
- 43:47man.
- 43:50Feel like a fool now knowing that he was a moron,
- 43:53but that's neither here nor there.
- 43:56But it.
- 43:57it brought back those memories when that crowd turned because that crowd had the same affection before hulk hogan that i had and it was like man somebody feels my pain even though he's a heel and
- 44:13i enjoyed him as a heel he was great as a heel uh but who can remember the great uh say your prayers eat your vitamins hulk hogan man that was that was epic
- 44:26And that match was epic as well as far as storytelling.
- 44:30That was the best story.
- 44:31I'm not saying it was the best technically sound match in wrestling history.
- 44:35No,
- 44:35it wasn't.
- 44:36You look at the two participants there.
- 44:38As much as people love The Rock,
- 44:40The Rock was not a banger in the ring.
- 44:42You know,
- 44:43he was decent,
- 44:44but he wasn't tearing the roof off of a stadium.
- 44:48So,
- 44:49in any event,
- 44:50it was a cool match.
- 44:52and
- 44:54Hogan turned back to...
- 44:55face i should say and had a nice run for about a i don't know what about a year uh when he was there
- 45:04year and a half maybe i forgot how long it was it wasn't long uh but uh he left did some other endeavors and he ended up coming back in 2005 and this go around this this go around uh this is when he was inducted into
- 45:22the wwe hall of fame he had his own reality show hogan knows best and all that all the good stuff and this is when we had the feud with Shawn Michaels that
- 45:35it's the stuff of legend this was supposed to be a three match feud that dad hogan turned into one match because he he was older and he felt he couldn't go for a three match arc and
- 45:51so this angered his angered sean michaels and so they end up having a match at summer slam which is coming up in a couple of weeks here and but uh that year's summer slam where
- 46:05Shawn Michaels oversold every move that
- 46:10Hogan did to a hilarious effect,
- 46:14man.
- 46:14It was so cartoonish and silly.
- 46:16It's embarrassing,
- 46:17really,
- 46:18but it's funny at the same time.
- 46:21He was that mad at Hogan,
- 46:24but he ended up making them both look like fools,
- 46:27if anything.
- 46:28But nothing really to talk about on his run of his
- 46:33WWE.
- 46:35wrestling I guess you can say because that was pretty much it um we fast forward to 2009 and this is when he went over to TNA TNA was trying to be the new
- 46:49WCW and overtake
- 46:52WWF or WWE and they wanted to make a mark so let's bring in Hulk let's bring in Hogan let's see if he can be uh
- 47:05three for three here in promotions and and make this company a big deal like he did for wwf at the time and wcw and so hogan didn't really come to be a wrestler he really came to be the
- 47:22head of creative or whatever head of the company or co-head or whatever he brought bish off over with him and it was basically wcw 2.0
- 47:33When they came over there,
- 47:35they decided to move Impact,
- 47:38which is the name of their flagship show,
- 47:41move that to Monday nights and make it three hours to compete directly with Monday Night Raw.
- 47:48And that was a dumpster fire of a decision.
- 47:52It didn't work out at all.
- 47:55The talent he brought in over there at
- 47:58TNA, old,
- 48:00washed up
- 48:02WWF.
- 48:03WCW stars that could barely move around the ring it was just it was a dumpster fire and ultimately he ended up leaving
- 48:15Dixie Carter was left wondering what to do with the company Dixie Carter of course was the owner of TNA at the time and she didn't know what she was doing and Eric Bischoff and Hogan didn't know what they were doing as well wrestlers wrestle it should not be
- 48:31his of creative and whatnot i mean triple h god bless him he's all right but he has a team he has a team with this this this this was bad in tna and this was around the time i was trying to get into tn but
- 48:49it didn't it didn't work out and so for the fourth time in his career in 2014 hulk hogan returned to ww and
- 49:00He made his first in-ring appearance and he hyped up the WWE Network around that time.
- 49:09He co-hosted
- 49:10WrestleMania. I think that was WrestleMania 30.
- 49:13That was here in New Orleans.
- 49:16The one that Undertaker lost it.
- 49:18That was devastating.
- 49:20He co-hosted that and you all remember that when he called the Superdome the Silverdome.
- 49:29And Steve Austin clowned him for it and whatnot.
- 49:31But yeah,
- 49:32you had that.
- 49:35It was a lot of appearances.
- 49:37He didn't really wrestle when he came back.
- 49:42He came out at WrestleMania the next year,
- 49:4531,
- 49:45with
- 49:46NWO. That's when Sting was wrestling Triple
- 49:49H in a regrettable match.
- 49:53I wish Sting would have went over,
- 49:56but of course Triple H couldn't allow that.
- 49:58But.
- 49:59Whatever.
- 50:00So,
- 50:01you got that,
- 50:02and...
- 50:03Then the bombshell dropped the bombshell dropped
- 50:08In 2015 everything that could have went wrong for Hulk Hogan did go wrong when Terry Bollea
- 50:17This is the Terry Bollea section,
- 50:19but he went full
- 50:21Racist he not only that you had the sex tape bleep,
- 50:27you know that that came out then we got the recordings of
- 50:32Him calling his daughter's boyfriend the hard R,
- 50:39N-word,
- 50:39the hard R.
- 50:42That rolled off his tongue way too well.
- 50:46You had that.
- 50:47You had the WWE taking him out of the Hall of Fame and stripping him of his Legends contract and whatnot.
- 50:56It was a mess.
- 50:58It was a mess.
- 50:59He was just shamed.
- 51:02Shamed he was on the video game
- 51:05WWE 2k they took him off the game.
- 51:09It was all he was just being erased from history and then something happened in 2018 he returned for a time to the WWE they re-extended him into the Hall of Fame
- 51:27He even got inducted for a second time into the Hall of Fame
- 51:31When the WWE inducted the NWO,
- 51:34the New World,
- 51:35all the members into the Hall of Fame.
- 51:38That was with Nash Hall and
- 51:40X-Pac along with Hogan.
- 51:43He made some appearances on a lot of programs before WWE.
- 51:51But what really kind of held that up a little bit was the pandemic.
- 51:56When that hit in 2020,
- 51:59kind of...
- 51:59kind of went missing for a while then came back he co-hosted wrestlemania 37 uh appeared on uh the 30th anniversary of raw i think that was one of the anniversaries whatever uh also at the 40th anniversary as well um
- 52:19and and the last time we saw him on wwe television was the debut on netflix
- 52:29just this past January when he came out and got booed to death.
- 52:38I mean,
- 52:39he could have passed away that day,
- 52:41and I would have known why.
- 52:42It would have been understandable.
- 52:43I mean,
- 52:44I have never heard so much heat come from a crowd when Hulk Hogan's music hit,
- 52:51and he limped out the hallway.
- 52:57It was...
- 52:57I was embarrassed for them,
- 52:59but I felt their pain.
- 53:00I felt those people's pain.
- 53:01Because up to this point,
- 53:03people were just tired of Hulk Hogan.
- 53:05You know?
- 53:07The political stuff aside,
- 53:10because that's what the majority of the people were doing.
- 53:12It wasn't the racist stuff,
- 53:13because people got over that.
- 53:15But for some strange reason,
- 53:17I don't know how.
- 53:18But the political stuff,
- 53:19you know,
- 53:20him backing Trump and all this here,
- 53:22that just killed it.
- 53:23That was the nail in the coffin for the majority of...
- 53:27the wrestling community and unfortunately that is the last visual reference we have for hawk hogan it's kind of fitting it's kind of poetic to be honest with you uh
- 53:43for a man that helped make this business what it was that that created uh this phenomenon known as professional wrestling and
- 53:55it's like the saying goes you you can die hero or live long enough to become the villain and unfortunately he lived long enough to become the villain and i don't know how you view hulk hogan do you view him as hulk hogan or do you view him as terry bella i i don't know uh
- 54:18me personally i look at them both individually i look at them both i guess in my psycho mind
- 54:25they're two different people because i don't think hulk hogan's a racist i don't think how hulk hogan is uh a moron but i do think terry bella is you know god rest his soul i just can't rock with him but uh hulk hogan he
- 54:43has given me way too many good memories throughout my childhood and adulthood for me to just say poo poo on you know what i'm saying so uh
- 54:53i gotta give props what props do uh wish he would have kind of changed his tune a bit
- 55:02you know going out the door uh amid his wrongs going out the door because he's also a liar he if you listen to his interviews they are migraine inducing i mean stuff just don't add up the math don't be maffin when he talks you know some of the stuff he see but
- 55:22it is what it is you
- 55:25RIP to Terry
- 55:27Hulk Hogan
- 55:29Balea
- 55:31I would love to know what is your favorite Hulk Hogan match?
- 55:35Were you a Hulk Hogan fan?
- 55:38Are you like me?
- 55:39Did he draw you to professional wrestling and how did you feel coming up to the end of his life,
- 55:46the last 20 years of Hulk Hogan?
- 55:48Do you feel he tarnished his legacy and whatnot?
- 55:55I'm not going to say he tarnished his legacy.
- 55:59You can't take away the stuff that he did in his career,
- 56:03but you also can't forget the things that he did outside of the ring as well.
- 56:08But I would love to know your thoughts about Hulk Hogan.
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- 56:46thank you for joining me for this remembrance of the legend,
- 56:51the icon,
- 56:52the immortal
- 56:54Hulk
- 56:55Hogan.
- 56:57Until next time,
- 56:58say your prayers,
- 56:59eat your vitamins,
- 57:01and I'll catch you on the next one.