Latest / Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast / Washington's Other War
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- 1:22network, I'm Alex Ross. When, in the course of human
- 1:47events, it becomes necessary to talk about the past, we have to
- 1:52remember that history is strange, it's alien, and it
- 1:56won't give us what we would like to have.
- 1:59It's more than just dates or places.
- 2:02History is the story of humanity and of our civilization, and
- 2:07from that past we begin to understand what the future might
- 2:11be. This is Dave does History.
- 2:17When we think about the American Revolution, we tend to remember
- 2:21the battles Lexington, Concord, Bunker Hill, Trenton, Saratoga,
- 2:27Yorktown. We remember Washington crossing
- 2:30the Delaware Continental soldiers freezing at Valley
- 2:33Forge, British redcoats marching across the colonies.
- 2:38While George Washington was trying to build an army capable
- 2:41of defeating the most powerful military empire in the world,
- 2:45something else was also moving through North America, something
- 2:50Washington feared enormously. It was a disease called
- 2:55smallpox. And to us today, it is consigned
- 2:58to history. To an American living in
- 3:0017751776, it was a terrifyingly familiar fear.
- 3:09Smallpox could enter a community almost unnoticeably.
- 3:12Deaf, blindness, scars, shattered families behind it.
- 3:15Now imagine what it could do to an army.
- 3:18Thousands of men crowded together, shared tents,
- 3:20quarters. Constant movement from colony to
- 3:23colony, new recruits arriving every day.
- 3:26It was war within a war, a fight against an enemy that didn't
- 3:31care whether you wore red, blue, patriot, loyalist or even
- 3:36understand what was going on. This was Washington's other war.
- 3:42And this is Dave does history well.
- 3:50Good morning. Good evening here.
- 3:52Good afternoon. Wherever you are, whatever you
- 3:54do, a lot of things were happening in history, and this
- 3:59is the day we set aside to take a look at some of those.
- 4:02We continue our look into 1776, the American Revolutionary War.
- 4:11When we picture the Revolution, as I said, we picture those
- 4:14muskets, the skirmishes, those artillery duels.
- 4:17But really one of the biggest fights was against something
- 4:21called variola Major. Major I guess I don't speak
- 4:25Latin very well. Otherwise known as smallpox, a
- 4:28disease that to us today is virtually non existent.
- 4:33But to the colonials it was as terrifying as anything you can
- 4:40matter. It's it's like reading about
- 4:42leprosy in the Bible. I mean, it was, it was feared,
- 4:46not just hated, it was feared. The problem, of course, was
- 4:52there was a major divide between the British regulars and the
- 4:58Continental Army and the recruits that we were getting.
- 5:01The British regulars had come from or areas that were
- 5:04basically urban centers and large garrisons.
- 5:10They had been exposed to smallpox as children, and
- 5:15because of this, they had a baseline immunity against
- 5:19smallpox of roughly 80%. That's pretty good in an era
- 5:25when vaccinations and inoculations and those sorts of
- 5:28things were not necessarily well done.
- 5:34On the colonial side, it was different.
- 5:37And this is, this is strange to us because we tend to think of
- 5:40the way smallpox ravaged the native populations, the
- 5:44indigenous populations, and we never think about it affecting
- 5:47the colonial populations. But at this particular point in
- 5:52our in our timeline, most colonials were aggregarian.
- 5:56They were isolated. There were very, very few small
- 6:00or, or large cities and, and gatherings like that.
- 6:04The exposure to smallpox was infrequent.
- 6:07Sometimes you had local outbreaks, but most of the
- 6:11population had not been exposed to smallpox, leaving a baseline
- 6:18immunity of roughly 20%. You got to look at this immunity
- 6:24divide to understand what George Washington was faced as we began
- 6:29the American Revolutionary War. When Washington took command of
- 6:33the army, he turned to the only physical, the only containment
- 6:37system that he understood, which was physical isolation.
- 6:42He had spent his life, his early life getting some immunity.
- 6:49When he was in Barbados he had a brutal 24 day illness, the age
- 6:54of 19. And once of course you've had
- 6:56the disease and survived, you are lifelong immune and he
- 6:59understood that. But he also understood that we
- 7:02had to, we had to be isolated. And so this is what he did.
- 7:07When he got to Cambridge in July 4th, 1775, he took command of
- 7:12the army surrounding Boston. He turned to the only
- 7:14containment strategy that he understood, which was strict
- 7:16physical isolation. In his general orders of July
- 7:214th, 1775, he established A dedicated quarantine hospital at
- 7:26Fresh Pond. He stationed armed sentries and
- 7:30strictly prohibited soldiers from fishing or traveling near
- 7:32the pond to keep all that stuff the the smallpox out of his
- 7:37supply lines. It was the only way that anybody
- 7:44at that point knew how to do anything.
- 7:49Was it effective well enough so that the army stayed together,
- 7:54hung together until evacuation day and the British left Boston?
- 7:58And if you recall, when we talked about evacuation day, who
- 8:01were the first troops that Washington sent in?
- 8:05He sent in smallpox immune troops to make sure that the
- 8:10British had not, you know, left smallpox infected things behind.
- 8:18In the meantime, we talked about Lord Dunmore down in Virginia,
- 8:23who had kind of a different idea.
- 8:27Remember, he's not worried about smallpox.
- 8:29He's got an 80% ice baseline immunity.
- 8:34So he's not really thinking in these terms.
- 8:37When he offered freedom to self emancipated slaves who bore arms
- 8:43for the crown, he formed what was known as the Ethiopian
- 8:46regiment. We talked about this in the
- 8:47burning of Norfolk and the the grievance that he has burned our
- 8:51cities and those kinds of things.
- 8:53In the meantime, he assumed things that were not true.
- 9:01The Continental, like the Continental recruits, these,
- 9:03these former slaves did not have that baseline immunity.
- 9:07They were trapped aboard the crowded British flotilla at
- 9:10Gwen's Island. They immediately, almost
- 9:15immediately had this breakout of smallpox that just ripped
- 9:24through the loyalist population that had begun to stay there
- 9:29with Lord Dunmore on his ship. It killed nearly 500 Black
- 9:35Loyalists within a matter of weeks.
- 9:38Can you imagine that? You know, I talk about this on
- 9:42occasion. We don't really understand death
- 9:45anymore. We don't see it.
- 9:46We don't experience it the way the colonials would have.
- 9:49We, we don't have the familiarity with it. 500 deaths
- 9:54within just a couple of weeks are what happened.
- 9:58In the meantime, General Howe is expelling 300 sick, destitute
- 10:04civilians from Boston directly into the continental lines.
- 10:07He's sending people who are infected into the American
- 10:10lines, hoping that this will happen.
- 10:12Washington is horrified. He says, hey, these guys are
- 10:17just using a, they're, they're using biological weapons against
- 10:20us. He called it a weapon of
- 10:22defense, as a matter of fact. And it was, it was scary.
- 10:27I mean, it was absolutely horrifying These these ideas
- 10:30that that the the British would actually do this.
- 10:36Washington was convinced that smallpox was being weaponized,
- 10:41and he issued A strict ban on inoculation.
- 10:43Yes, you heard that correctly. His first act was to say we're
- 10:48not going to inoculate people because inoculation in those
- 10:52days was a iffy proposition at best.
- 10:56And in the meantime, there was concern, what are we going to do
- 11:02here? How are we going to respond to
- 11:05this and more importantly, what will happen going forward from
- 11:10here? This is a war within a war.
- 12:17Welcome back. It's me Dave.
- 12:18You want to join me? Text machine 2095653283565.
- 12:24Dave, I don't know why I'm stumbling over that number
- 12:27lately. I've been saying that number for
- 12:2920 years. Oh, suddenly I can't say it.
- 12:33Welcome back. Washington was afraid that
- 12:36unquarantined self administered inoculations would be disabling
- 12:41to his regiments. That's one of the reasons why he
- 12:44banned inoculations. He was afraid that these were
- 12:48going to be essentially home medicine, which was known in
- 12:53that era. He declared that any officer who
- 12:56underwent unauthorized inoculation would be cashiered,
- 12:59disgraced, and publicly denounced as a traitor to his
- 13:02country. In 1776, Washington still
- 13:07believed that strict prohibition was his best defense.
- 13:13But things change. As you you may know that's it's
- 13:19an idea, but sometimes they don't survive.
- 13:25The problem that he was facing, of course, was the failure of
- 13:31the invasion of Canada. The retreating northern army was
- 13:34drifting down the Rushloo River in total ruin and John Trumbull,
- 13:38who witnessed the horrors at Crown Point in 1776, recorded in
- 13:42his journal. I did not look into a single
- 13:44tent or Hut in which I did not find in either dead or a dying
- 13:50man. The problem, of course, is that
- 13:54the army that had tried to take over Canada had completely and
- 14:00utterly failed and was bringing back more of the same problem.
- 14:07They had to try to save that retreating force from total
- 14:11destruction. A council of war executed an
- 14:16emergency separation. They established a 3000 patient
- 14:19isolation hospital at Fort George.
- 14:23There they would segregate and the infected while diverting the
- 14:28healthy ranks east towards Fort Ticonderoga to hold the line
- 14:32against the British invasion. This was an important idea
- 14:36because you, you run into a situation here where it's, you
- 14:43got to keep these troops separated by sending them and,
- 14:47and, and imagine if you will, for just a moment, the care
- 14:53that's being provided. What, what care could you
- 14:55provide in today's world if, if by some chance you managed to
- 14:59get smallpox, the treatment today would be much different
- 15:05than anything they could possibly have done in 17751776.
- 15:09Basically, they were just waiting for you to die.
- 15:11You know, we read about the Black Plague and how people, you
- 15:15know, would get it and they either died or they didn't.
- 15:17I mean, that's pretty much what it was.
- 15:19And in in the same way with smallpox, you could be left
- 15:21scarred, you could be left blinded.
- 15:23In many cases you would die. And so you had to separate these
- 15:28troops out because if you didn't, well, people were going
- 15:33to, you know, die. By the summer of 1776, the army
- 15:41in the north was suffering, of course.
- 15:43But a critical proof of concept, concept plan was emerging in
- 15:50Boston in 1776, July of 1776. So after the fall of Boston to
- 15:56the colonials, after we recaptured it, municipal
- 15:59authorities temporarily suspended the anti inoculation
- 16:03laws under strict sentry control and nearly 5000 civilians would
- 16:09be immunized within 12 days with minimal mortality.
- 16:14Imagine this the the city says we we got to do something.
- 16:18And so the civilians decide, hey, we're going to, we're going
- 16:21to, we have to do something here.
- 16:24And so they begin to inoculate their citizens, even though the
- 16:28military is saying absolutely not, we're not doing that kind
- 16:32of the opposite of the way it is today, isn't it?
- 16:35Today the military says you will get inoculations.
- 16:38And it's the civilian population that seems to have a problem
- 16:41with that. 5000 civilians immunized within 12 days.
- 16:47The epidemic then burns itself out safely.
- 16:51And this shows proof of concept that immunization is
- 16:54logistically possible and that's going to change things.
- 17:00Prior to this time, you, you had two ways of doing this, one
- 17:04called variolation, which you take a live human smallpox
- 17:09virus. It's highly contagious,
- 17:12compares, you know, carries A1 to 2% mortality risk at a normal
- 17:17infection rate. So what you're what you're doing
- 17:19here, we're not talking today about modern vaccinations.
- 17:25We're not talking about today where you where you use a needle
- 17:28and you involved. What they did was they
- 17:30deliberately made an incision, inserted the live dangerous
- 17:35human smallpox pus into a soldiers arm.
- 17:41Every, every soldier who would be inoculated by this or every
- 17:44civilian inoculated this way, became actively contagious for
- 17:47nearly a month, making mass variolation A colossal strategic
- 17:52risk. But it also made things possibly
- 17:57safer. And the the experiment at Boston
- 18:00would kind of prove that later vaccinations would use animal
- 18:04cowpox virus. It was safe, It was not
- 18:06contagious, but it was unavailable in 1776, and
- 18:10Washington had no way of doing that.
- 18:15And that, of course, was the was the point that the scientifics
- 18:20side of this became very possible.
- 18:23The problem, of course, is that Washington is at a crossroads.
- 18:28This is dangerous. This is do I do this?
- 18:32Do I not do this? How do I do this?
- 18:34Should I even do this? What it's not the easy decision
- 18:39that we think it is today. We didn't we look at it today
- 18:42and go, well, of course you get vaccinated for smallpox.
- 18:44It's not a big deal. But in 1776, it is in 1776, no
- 18:50one knows for sure that this was actually going to work.
- 18:53Despite the the success in Boston, there's still great fear
- 18:58because if the army is destroyed, whether by the
- 19:01British or by the virus, we lose the American Revolutionary War.
- 19:07So Washington has to make that decision.
- 19:11Can you imagine all the things we give him credit for, all the
- 19:14things we talk about with George Washington?
- 19:17This may have been his best decision.
- 19:52Digging up the past without the permits, brushes, or awkward
- 19:55conversations with archaeologists.
- 19:58This is Dave does History. Welcome back.
- 20:03So Washington makes this decision.
- 20:06He he actually writes to Adams when he says, I have determined
- 20:11that the troops shall be inoculated.
- 20:12Now this actually happens in 1777, February of 77, after the
- 20:18battles at Trenton and Morristown, the disease starts
- 20:22to spread. He's he's having issues and it
- 20:25it gets worse before it ever gets better.
- 20:29Washington is actually this letter was to Hancock.
- 20:32I'm sorry I said Adams, but he, he wrote, it's interesting
- 20:39because we get, we get inside Washington's head, we have the
- 20:42letter he writes in there. I am divided in my opinion.
- 20:46He's he's vacillating. He doesn't know what to do when
- 20:49it comes to the smallpoxy. And that is actually crossed
- 20:52out. It's lined out.
- 20:54And then he wrote below that I have determined that the troops
- 20:58shall be inoculated. And on February 6th, he ordered
- 21:03Doctor William Shippen Junior to begin mass variolation and
- 21:07created the first military sponsored mass immunization
- 21:11mandate in military history. And that again, it's a huge
- 21:17risk, but you're losing otherwise.
- 21:20So what are you going to do? He wants operational security.
- 21:25Executing this mandate requires absolutely operational security.
- 21:29If the British command learns that thousands of Continental
- 21:32troops are bedridden at Morristown, NJ, with undergoing
- 21:37variolation, what would they have done?
- 21:39Even though it was February, even the Howe brothers would
- 21:42have said, OK, I guess we have to go attack now.
- 21:47They could have wiped out the entire Continental Army in a
- 21:50single stroke. And of course, that's what the
- 21:53danger of smallpox was. Instead, Washington established
- 21:57mandatory entry hubs at Philadelphia and Alexandria to
- 22:00inoculate new recruits before they even got to camp, much much
- 22:04as we do today. I mean, you get, you go to boot
- 22:07camp, OK? The first thing to do is cut
- 22:09your hair. Second thing they do is give you
- 22:12inoculations before you even get uniforms.
- 22:16They start them, as I recall, anyway.
- 22:18That was a long time ago for me, but it seemed like that was one
- 22:23of the big things we did. He established these centers, He
- 22:28staggered the process through the winter months when the
- 22:30frozen roads prevented any British offensives.
- 22:35And of course, that was the key, was keeping that out there.
- 22:39That way it was a biological equalizer.
- 22:43Morristown Mandate that Washington wrote, served as the
- 22:47ultimate equalizer. By the siege of Yorktown in
- 22:501781, the Continental Army had had achieved complete
- 22:55immunological parity with the British regulars.
- 22:58Imagine that we had started out completely at the mercy of this
- 23:04disease. But by the time Yorktown rolls
- 23:07around and, and keep in mind, the Continental Army has grown
- 23:10there. We've added the French army into
- 23:11that. We've added Spanish troops into
- 23:13that, some Holland, some Dutch troops, all of these folks from
- 23:17around the world. By the time 1781 rolls around,
- 23:20by the time of the Battle of Yorktown, the Siege of Yorktown,
- 23:24we are completely on an immunological parody with the
- 23:27British Army. By overcoming smallpox through
- 23:31military discipline and public health logistics, Washington
- 23:35eliminated Great Britain's greatest asymmetrical advantage.
- 23:40Britain could have won the American Revolutionary War not
- 23:44through military stuff. They could have just killed us
- 23:49all via the use of biological weapons.
- 23:55But by the time this happens, by the time we get to the end of
- 23:59all this, by the time we realize that the war is won, Washington
- 24:05has figured it out and he has saved not only his army, but in
- 24:10a way he has saved his country again.
- 24:12Because this spreads throughout the nation, and eventually
- 24:16everybody pretty much becomes inoculated because the idea of
- 24:20dying of smallpox is not appealing.
- 24:24But living is a free American actually is.
- 24:28Take the time right now. Tell the people that matter in
- 24:30your life You love them very much.
- 24:31You'd miss them if they weren't there.
- 24:32So don't pass up those opportunities.
- 24:34You don't want to have that real ground.
- 24:35I'll see you tomorrow for plausibly live.