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- 0:00So you can see that our gas revenue will generate enough cash to cover our
- 0:06expiration. And the last thing I want to say is if people remember I
- 0:11always said I love the SSB. SCSB to me is the cash engine,
- 0:16and also now it's a technical engine because people come to us with projects that
- 0:21is going to fund something bigger. SASB is a company maker, but it's
- 0:26not the size of company I want. And when you look at the oil
- 0:29prospect, we could find five million, fifty million or five hundred million barrel
- 0:34field. The Financial Survival Network now more than ever, the Financial Survival Network
- 0:46And welcome. This is Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Terry Lutts.
- 0:51We are getting a much awaited sponsored update from Arthur Haller and CEO of
- 0:56Trillion Energy and Bart. It's great to have it back on the show.
- 1:00So I noticed today August second, we had a release, a news release
- 1:07kind of refocusing your efforts. Can you briefly just explain what's happening with the
- 1:11company. Thanks for having me back on here, because you were at the
- 1:15start of this program A and now you're at the finish drop program A.
- 1:19So the first thing I'll mention is that our last while we produced is our
- 1:23put on production now is Lapel and it is actually on production today and it's
- 1:29producing about nine million qbig feet feet per day. But as to the twenty
- 1:34to sixty four inch choke, because we have to choke the way back so
- 1:37it won't back out the other guests wells, the news released today is we
- 1:44are not stopping SASP because I've got a bunch of comments that now that we're
- 1:49not going to be drilling at SCSP, it's going to be in the back
- 1:51burner and we're going to focus on the expiration and now we're an expiration company.
- 1:57Well, the actual reality is we are a gas producing company that's going
- 2:00to do oil expiration. And the reason why we're putting and it's not really
- 2:06a pause because we've always had program A and program B. So program A
- 2:12always was five new wells and two recompletions. We drilled to five new wells
- 2:19and we did one recompletion, and the second recompletion we decided we would do
- 2:23to side tracks because of the risk we saw associated with fishing stuff out of
- 2:29the borehole, so we put in six sidetracks and all we're really doing now
- 2:35is sliding those six side tracks into two twenty four, maybe mid twenty twenty
- 2:40four or second quarters somewhere in there. And the reason the reason for that
- 2:46is we are doing the three D seismic will be finished reprocessing in September and
- 2:53we'll start getting it mapped in locations coming out in October, November, December.
- 2:58I've already seen some of the stuff and would I would suspect that we're
- 3:00going to have better locations in the stratigraphic prospects than some of the side tracks.
- 3:07Doesn't mean we won't do the side tracks, but we'll have a better
- 3:10selection and we might end up having you know, six or seven good stratigraphic
- 3:15targets than six of these side tracks. And also by that time, we'll
- 3:22know whether some of the polls that we are producing from right now can use
- 3:25a second well. So it's just going to be better use of the capex.
- 3:30It's not that we don't have locations, and it's not that we're not
- 3:34going to continue. It's just that this is a good time to retone.
- 3:38Okay, so as far as cash flow, now, about how much is
- 3:45the company pulling in a month on its interest on this interview? This will
- 3:50be the first time that we have laid out the field now because we now
- 3:53have the six wells in it, and so we can now say what's going
- 3:58on here with a degree of certainty and forgetting about what's going to happen in
- 4:00the future. So right now, at this point in time, we have
- 4:03three wells that are producing at a good rate, and we are getting about
- 4:10fourteen million cubic feet per day of gas and at today's price, and I
- 4:15worked it out, it's eleven dollars a sixty five cents, So we're getting
- 4:17about two point three two point four million dollars US as hours per month.
- 4:24But that means three of the wells we need to get better production out of
- 4:29it. And so another reason why we need to kind of take this little
- 4:32bit of arrest is we've shown everybody we can drill the wells. We have
- 4:38found more gas than we thought because each well end up having more pay And
- 4:43some of the issues now is that we actually are at producing gas at a
- 4:46high pressure. We know how to drill them. We found it, and
- 4:48now we're in the process. Let's maximize the production. So what's happening.
- 4:53So an example, Alpen well, we are producing at a twenty twenty to
- 4:59sixty four inch choke and normally we produced at a thirty two sixty four.
- 5:02It's just that there's too much gas, there's too much pressure, and what'll
- 5:05end up happening if it's we end up building the pipeline pressure and it'll back
- 5:11out the other good wells, say behind Lee, and we don't want to
- 5:15do that. So we're producing behind Lee and we're producing alpe Choke back and
- 5:20Gulich is okay. But what happens is is that for West Acachoca and South
- 5:25Dakachoca, when we backed out the production, we got a water column in
- 5:30it. And it doesn't mean the gas is not there because at two million
- 5:32qbic feet per day, it can't produce the long through the long water because
- 5:38these holes are like three to three point four kilometers long. Where there's no
- 5:44gas, the water fills in and we have to go back in and reperf
- 5:47or we have to find a way of removing that water. Reperfing, we
- 5:51feel it's not going to be recovering all the reserves that we need, so
- 5:56we're actually going to now use West Akachoca and put it into a slim line
- 6:00ESP, which is electro submersible pump just to remove remove some of the water
- 6:05to kick it back in. So getting back to my story, three wells
- 6:10fourteen million qb feet per day West Akulchoca, we're going to put an ESP
- 6:14in it because that will solve the problems for the water that's going to come
- 6:18in in long term for the other wells and South Akua Choka. We're going
- 6:21to reperf that one so that one will come back on, but eventually we're
- 6:26going to need ESP for that. And an Acuchoca three. Again, there
- 6:30seems to be a fish in there that's causing an issue. So if the
- 6:33only well the might not come back on for a while is a could Choka
- 6:36three, but that only costs US two million to open up, and we
- 6:41made nine to ten million dollars on that. So that's the process. And
- 6:46this is just normal understanding well management that we're talking about. We're kind of
- 6:50getting in the weeds. Point is a lot of pressure coming out of three
- 6:55wells holding back the other three wells, one of which maybe coming back on,
- 7:00may not, but the other two definitely will be. We can look
- 7:03over to higher production once you get these kinks worked out. That's correct.
- 7:09And also we've also got some emails like it's like a flurry, it's like
- 7:14a snowstorm about the oil and they say, now we're changing direction and we
- 7:18have to do another raise, all that kind of stuff, And I just
- 7:23realized I don't communicate properly. So I'm going to take a few minutes here.
- 7:27So when we talk about an equity raise for SCSP, if we wanted
- 7:30to raise thirteen million dollars, that's one well. If we did a thirteen
- 7:34million dollars raise equity raise for the oil field, that's four wells, right.
- 7:41But when you look at the economics, I mean the cost. So
- 7:43if we're producing right now with three wells, about two million, and we
- 7:46got to get the other wells on. But to say we're at two million
- 7:48US per month in two twenty three, to meet our commitments for the oil
- 7:55prospect, it's four million dollars before December. To shoot the seismic in twenty
- 8:01twenty four, our commitment is four wells, which we pay one hundred percent
- 8:07and including road building and everything, that's twelve million dollars. Then in twenty
- 8:13twenty five and twenty twenty six, there's three more wells each commitment, but
- 8:18we're only fifty percent as four and a half million dollars, so you can
- 8:22see that our gas revenue will generate enough cash to cover our expiration. And
- 8:31the last thing I wanted to say is if people remember I always said I
- 8:35love the SCSB. SCSB to me is the cash engine, and also now
- 8:41it's a technical engine because people come to us with projects that is going to
- 8:46fund something bigger. SASB is a company maker, but it's not the size
- 8:52the company I want. And when you look at the oil prospect, we
- 8:56could find five million, fifty million or five hundred million barrel field. Doesn't
- 9:01mean we're not going to chase off block SCSBT. And also a couple of
- 9:07months ago, I said, I'm disappointed with the reaction that the ship that
- 9:09the gas wells give to the share value. So I'm going to try to
- 9:13get something by August. And here we are and I've basically done on everything
- 9:18I said I'm going to do. And yeah, so refocusing a maximizing production
- 9:24on what you already have, obviously that's priority, because you could go drill
- 9:30a couple more wells, maybe double production. But if you get everything these
- 9:33six wells producing you could double production right there. That's correct. Yeah,
- 9:39and that's where we're going to focus on them, and then once we fine
- 9:41tuned out and then we go to the next phase. So phase A we
- 9:46pretty well have finished. That's we've always said there's a phase A and a
- 9:48phase B, and we just slid it in the future. It's a much
- 9:54better returning capital because we know we can maximize the production and get the revenue
- 9:58faster. Got it all right. So the farming agreement that you announced a
- 10:03couple of days ago, I heard a quote that you said, in your
- 10:07forty years of doing this, it is the best to prospect that you've ever
- 10:11seen. Did I get that right? That's correct, And an earlier interview
- 10:16I actually got told I couldn't put that in the news release. And it
- 10:20is the best prospect oil prospect because number one, the potential for size.
- 10:26Number Two, it's not in the middle of Africa, so I can get
- 10:30a rig, I can get people, I can and bring anything in there
- 10:33is not very expensive. And three it's close to market. I don't have
- 10:37to build a pipeline six hundred miles long or any with any type of that
- 10:41kind of stuff. It's in Turkey, and Turkey needs the oil. And
- 10:46with the larger fields right there, there's already has pipelines that they're talking about
- 10:50building a refinery on those huge discoveries that are to the east of our block.
- 10:56And the implication is this could also be a huge discovery. That's correct.
- 11:01No, it is the expiration. But like I say, when you
- 11:05when you look at all the potential reservoir horizons and the amount of staining you
- 11:11have and the huge fields around it, and it's the same zone that comes
- 11:13in from northern Iraq and Syria, it has the potential to be some big,
- 11:20big targets unless what I say, you know, five million, which
- 11:22is not a bad size. That'd be five times an SSP well, because
- 11:28each SASP well is about a million boees or fifty million barrels or even a
- 11:33five hundred million barrels. Because to the north we have a billion on the
- 11:37one blocks added to the eadist another billion and a six hundred and fifty million
- 11:41barrel field. Oh it sounds quite encouraging. Can you just tell us a
- 11:48little bit about the agreement you executed regarding the Bulgarian properties. Yeah, so
- 11:54I can't I can't say who it is because they don't want they don't want
- 11:58to be used for promotion. But it's a well established, well known,
- 12:01well funded company, and they are in m gas, gas and oil,
- 12:07mine and transportation, and they we were talking to about something else and they
- 12:13just said, we heard, we heard from somebody. You have a nice
- 12:16property in Bulgaria. We'd like to share data and see if we can do
- 12:22something with you to bring this forward, which is quite quite good. Okay.
- 12:28So the prices obviously have come down from their peak during the run up
- 12:31to the Ukraine War. We're down to eleven. It's still higher than the
- 12:35eight to nine dollars we talked about. Do you see where do you see
- 12:41prices heading for the next six months to a year. So my personal opinion
- 12:46is that it's not going to go down much much more, and that when
- 12:50we get into the winter, you know, I don't see why we can't
- 12:54be up to the fifteen eighteen dollar range. But even even at the fifteen,
- 12:58before it got eleven sixty five, one might have said, you know,
- 13:01you can go back up to the higher higher price. But yeah,
- 13:05I'd say eleven fifteen eighteen dollars towards the winter of twenty twenty four. The
- 13:11key takeaway though is at eleven dollars twelve dollars an MCF, we would be
- 13:16self funding for our continuing drilling, right because next days we don't have to
- 13:24UM cash call t PAO. At the end of the well, the next
- 13:28phase it is, we're going to drill us well and it's money up front.
- 13:33So eleven twelve dollars we'd be self funding for um SCSB without drilling,
- 13:39we can be down to less than a buck buck and a half and still
- 13:46be okay. Right, hey, and this latest well, uh, you
- 13:50got a cash call coming in within a couple of months ahead of us,
- 13:54right from t we got the cash call. The cash call will be here
- 13:58maybe Monday or Tuesday, all right, so that helps, yeah, because
- 14:01yeah, so how it works as we did the cash call, I believe
- 14:05it was Friday, they have about they have ten days, but they usually
- 14:07pay quicker that that cash call is about six point nine seven seven million.
- 14:13And then again to explain finances to the audience, here, our June UM
- 14:20bill, we get an invoice and then we have thirty days to pay.
- 14:24Our June invoice for drilling is about three point two million and our July invoice
- 14:30for drilling is about three point two million, and we have a cash call
- 14:33for six point nine. We also have revenue checks coming in there. So
- 14:39all that is this constant chatter about us not having enough money. It should
- 14:48go away because we're not burning any money now for drilling, right right,
- 14:52So the riga you're basically letting go for now. You'll you'll bring it back
- 14:56in twenty twenty four. Yea, that's correct, So my my CEO,
- 15:03they have an agreement that we have the right to call it back and if
- 15:07they will get another job, they have to inform us so that we can
- 15:11make a decision. All right, So you got to write a first refusal
- 15:15on the rig and so that's good news. So it will be available if
- 15:18you need it and when you need it and all right. So definitely interesting
- 15:24developments here, Art. It sounds like it's in control though you're making money,
- 15:28which is the important thing. The cash is flowing and promises to increase
- 15:35as well, So appreciate you coming on, Art. Okay, I suggest
- 15:39everybody go over to trillion energy dot com. All this informations contain. They're
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- 15:52the Canada, it's at TCF. In the United States, t R L,
- 15:58E, F and ART. We'll be touching base with you in the
- 16:02months by ahead. Thanks so much for coming on. Yes, it's always
- 16:04a pleasure. Thank you. The Financial Survival Network