Latest / Random Heathen Ramblings / Random Heathen Ramblings: S3, EP31 - Young Philosophical Ramblings w/ Wyatt Coverdale
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- 8:07So today's podcast, I'm very happy and excited to announce
- 8:11that we have a guest coming on here today, who has been present
- 8:16on the midgard, musings, YouTube channel, a number of times.
- 8:20Actually, during live streams you.
- 8:23If you're, if you're a bit of a alumni to the channel.
- 8:28If you've been around for a minute, you might know who I'm
- 8:31talking about. And his name is Wyatt.
- 8:33Coverdale, he has a YouTube channel himself under his own
- 8:38name and he has a lot of neat things to offer.
- 8:42In terms of just philosophical thoughts processes.
- 8:45He's a, he's a young mind but he's also a Why is above his
- 8:51years? I think is a good you know
- 8:54description of why it's approach to things.
- 8:56He has a lot of neat perspectives on just
- 9:01philosophical thing. So I suspect that today's
- 9:03podcast is going to circulate around a lot of that sort of
- 9:07thing. We're going to talk about a
- 9:09recent discovery that he had around a certain approach to
- 9:15magical practices again. This is a this is this this type
- 9:19of podcast today. I think is going to be heavily
- 9:23leaning towards the personal experiences.
- 9:27The UPG side of things, it's not inherently Heathen per se, but
- 9:32why it has been a supporter? He was actually funny story.
- 9:35One of the very first individuals who created a video
- 9:40on his channel as a shout out to me for having given him some
- 9:45sort of recognition or whatever during a live stream.
- 9:47This was several years ago The channel on YouTube hadn't been
- 9:53out for four, maybe more than a year or so I forget how many
- 9:56subscribers I had at the time, but I did a live stream and he
- 10:01was there and I like recognize my, hey there, Wyatt Coverdale,
- 10:04hi there. Nice to see you, whatever.
- 10:06And it absolutely blew his mind. He was, he was very enthused
- 10:09about just being recognized in that way and he went and did
- 10:13like a reaction video on his channel.
- 10:15So he's got a channel it's going to be annotated as well.
- 10:18Be sure to Little long on his, you know, respective Journey,
- 10:23but so much of what why it has. I guess, you know, found in his
- 10:29young years seem to have stricken a chord with him with
- 10:34Heathen re right? Because there's been things that
- 10:36we've talked about and I've shared on the live streams and
- 10:39stuff over the years that has resonated with him and he's
- 10:44shown a great interest in and then may have perhaps shaped his
- 10:48approach on things. I'm not trying to take credit
- 10:50for the way he thinks now, because I feel like so much of
- 10:52what he does. So much of how he thinks and
- 10:55perceives the world. His world view has been largely
- 10:58due to his own work in his own research.
- 11:00However, I do know that he's, you know, given credit where
- 11:05credit is due, and he's mentioned me before saying like,
- 11:08hey, you know, you seem like a very smart person wise person,
- 11:12you you have inspired me. I look at you as like some sort
- 11:15of mentor, in a way, whatever. So yeah, it's Really flattering,
- 11:21really exciting. I'm really thrilled to have him
- 11:24on the podcast for the first time he's been again on the
- 11:28channel, a number of times before we've done some, some
- 11:33live streams and stuff where he's been on here.
- 11:34So, welcome to the podcast, white Carver Dale for the first
- 11:39time and let's see the kinds of things that we can get into
- 11:43today. So welcome to the podcast.
- 11:45Why coverdell All right, everybody, and like I said
- 11:57before welcoming to the channel actually welcoming to the
- 11:59podcast, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a regular to the channel
- 12:03and has been for quite some time as I mentioned earlier, but
- 12:07welcome to the podcast for the first time.
- 12:09Why Coverdale? Hey Jess, it's going to be back
- 12:12on, good to see you again. Good to see all the people that
- 12:14are probably watching this in the future again.
- 12:16Yeah man. Yeah so this is this is this is
- 12:19a fun thing I was I was alluding.
- 12:21Eating earlier kind of before you got on here, just to kind of
- 12:25give some people a rough, you know, background of you and the
- 12:29history with this channel. I mean, you're one of the first
- 12:32people that made like a like I say like a reaction video or I'm
- 12:39a, like a call out to you during like a live stream.
- 12:43I don't remember exactly when or what it was but then following
- 12:46that livestream or following that video, you went and put a
- 12:49video out on your channel being like, Oh my God.
- 12:52The garden using said hi to me or something.
- 12:54So, we go back quite some time, like, it's been at least a few
- 12:57years, I think, since, you know, we've known each other seems
- 13:01like, yeah, by the way, I'm really sorry about that.
- 13:04That was a really embarrassing way of introducing myself now.
- 13:08Man, I do, you know, I'm actually flattered by it
- 13:11because, you know, this type of thing like, being out here, I'm
- 13:16like a video platform or any sort of content sharing, you
- 13:19know, platform, you never know the kind of Nerves that you
- 13:22strike or the type of people that you inspire influence.
- 13:26And even if it's just one person, right?
- 13:28If I've been able to make a an impact or or or whatever, on one
- 13:34person's life, then I feel like there, then what I'm doing is
- 13:36worth it and you were one of the first people that made that kind
- 13:40of impact on me. So, I'm like, huh, I'm going to
- 13:43keep doing this thing, you know, and of course it's evolved and
- 13:46it's grown a lot since then. And I think we all have.
- 13:49I think we've all grown and Of the lot because at that time
- 13:53when you were following or catching my content and then you
- 13:57put out yours, your views on things or your approach to
- 14:02things or your understanding the way.
- 14:03What you were learning was very specific and very focused and I
- 14:07would venture to say that. Now, your views on the world and
- 14:12the wood and what you kind of adopt in terms of your
- 14:15philosophy or whatever has shifted greatly since like we
- 14:19first quote unquote met Online. Would that be accurate?
- 14:25It's in pieces. I mean I would say that I have
- 14:30definitely shifted in a philosophical sense.
- 14:32I don't think that I still work with the the ark types of the
- 14:37beings within North mythology. I still work with Magics like
- 14:40the runes in the gold lost to fear but what they mean has
- 14:44definitely changed me like instead of seeing them as
- 14:47literal and theistic. I've sort of gone on to a more
- 14:50meta foot metaphorical approach things, and seeing more as like,
- 14:58What's the word I'm looking for here?
- 14:59Like metaphysical archetypes, for thing?
- 15:02Yeah. Yeah.
- 15:03I like that. I like that.
- 15:04You use the term archetypes, you know, because I think with so
- 15:08much focus on religion, spirituality philosophy, even no
- 15:13matter where you go, no matter what you venture off into the
- 15:16archetypes exist. And they could be, you know,
- 15:20existing under certain names and certain Aesthetics with in
- 15:25Germanic cultures Celtic culture.
- 15:27Is Asian cultures indigenous Native, American cultures,
- 15:31whatever like the archetypes exist?
- 15:33So I am glad that you mentioned that because I feel like that's
- 15:37a maybe something to key in on for a lot of people listening
- 15:39watching and stuff. You know you may be thinking of
- 15:42certain things in a certain way and the archetype is of whatever
- 15:45but your aesthetic might lie and on specific Regional or cultural
- 15:53You know, types or whatever. So yeah, they sort of pro tip
- 16:00that I've learned in spirituality is We're in the
- 16:05beings first but then try learning what those beings
- 16:08represent and try finding similarities between those
- 16:10beings and beings from other cultures and sort of build
- 16:13yourself these archetypes for them like these overall,
- 16:16representations of what they are.
- 16:18And then realize that, all those beings is sort of masks for
- 16:21those same Arc types, like the whole process becomes much more
- 16:25refined and therefore easier to work with.
- 16:29That's interesting, you know, and because some of the stuff
- 16:33that I Talk about and because of, because of the content that
- 16:36I create is very specific to like, you know, northern
- 16:40European or dramatic even read that sort of thing.
- 16:43When I first got into my practices, it was very God
- 16:48Centric, you know, I mean, like focused around the sacred, the
- 16:50Divine, the the deities, as it were the beings and I've kind of
- 16:55evolved and grown into such a path where I Look to more of the
- 17:00Like those those, do they still hold a very important part of my
- 17:04practices but I am of the type to want to say when you're first
- 17:09starting out at least in Germanic ketonuria is let that
- 17:11come later on like focus on your immediate spirituality, your
- 17:16ancestral, Focus, your the localized Spirits, because
- 17:19there's so many beings that exist in around us that aren't
- 17:22classified as Divine. Like, they're not Gods who they
- 17:25are their Spiritual Beings they exist outside of like the
- 17:28physical, like, flesh and Bone. on part of the human element
- 17:31that we exist and can recognize other forms of ourselves in
- 17:36there, are other beings or other living beings that exist that
- 17:38are Spiritual Beings just like we are that have as much
- 17:42existence around us and so I've always been like well or not
- 17:45always but more recently been like focus on that because they
- 17:48are this the forces around you that you share space and time
- 17:51with the the elevated, the higher forms, the, the sacred,
- 17:57the Divine like that comes, I think in time and if you want to
- 18:00Into that right off the bat right away, then you might be,
- 18:04and this is just my thing. You might be positioning
- 18:07yourself into a place where you're not prepared to tandel
- 18:12what they have to offer. What do you think about that?
- 18:17I would say that you're pretty spot-on.
- 18:18I mean, a lot of people usually come into these sort of
- 18:21spiritualities in a very theistic sense.
- 18:23And I'm not like trying to bully anybody who still has that
- 18:26plastic roll, like you can believe what you believe.
- 18:29But Within at least my eyes for my advancement within my
- 18:33FlexPay. I've noticed that that's sort of
- 18:36like The theism is like a sort of gatekeeping Line in the Sand
- 18:40if that makes sense. It's it's the first process in
- 18:46the, in the reach of I guess Enlightenment we can call it for
- 18:51lack of a Scandinavian sort of time.
- 18:53Yeah. It's a way of getting familiar
- 18:58with materials rather than going with materials actually are like
- 19:02I've had this sort of Revelation one time that while I I was
- 19:07studying into wicking things. While I've gotten more advanced
- 19:12in my spirituality right now, I've realized that Wickers.
- 19:15Sort of, it's like, I don't know how to say this without being
- 19:22offensive very, but it's sort of a beginner level sort of thing.
- 19:24It focus on the real nature of things.
- 19:26It lets you see patterns within nature and let you instruct.
- 19:30All these things figure out how magic Works.
- 19:32Figure out yourself in the process.
- 19:34So, well, I think, you know, if we were to look at like the
- 19:38timeline of things wrist, in respective to our existence.
- 19:42So I Wicca as we know it today or as is probably used today is
- 19:48very Very modern again, in respective to other alternative,
- 19:53religion than alternative views of spirituality paganism, as a
- 19:56whole right, polytheistic views of spirituality.
- 19:59You believe in a an array, or a multi Pantheon of deities.
- 20:06You know. It's not just one Supreme Being
- 20:07There are multiple beings of superiority.
- 20:10There are multiple beings of a Divine and sacred existence that
- 20:15have a place in the universe of Multiverse maybe.
- 20:20And that Wicca is a very modern. Layer tool that whole thing.
- 20:27Yeah, well, regardless of cultural bands, I would say the
- 20:31archetype still there, specifically, the Dual nature of
- 20:36things and EMP, and yang, you know, the mother goddess in the
- 20:41going. God, some people call him the
- 20:43green man. Yeah, I was talking with
- 20:47somebody else recently and and that that kind of topic came
- 20:51into the conversation where no matter what You know, cultural
- 20:57differences. There's there's been and he kind
- 20:59of narrowed it down to. There's, there's always This
- 21:01Mother Earth or Earth, Mother Earth goddess, and a sky father
- 21:05or Sky God, like there's that Arc again, going back to like
- 21:10archetypes, right? Like there's across multiple
- 21:13cultures and you know, various Pantheon's, there's this
- 21:16archetype of a sky father and an earth mother and and how
- 21:22interesting that is to think about how the Eartha fertility,
- 21:25the mothering aspect of things resides in the ground whereas
- 21:29the the lead the the the I don't know, the father type has its
- 21:35place in the heavens. The sky, you know, maybe the
- 21:39above, I don't know. So yeah, it's all very
- 21:44interwoven into into things and I don't know, I just it's really
- 21:51interesting to to connect to current aspects of all that
- 21:56across different cultures, like you said, But what are you into
- 22:01now lately? We talked earlier you know like
- 22:03I'm reminiscing about one of the early videos that I did and you
- 22:07were really interested in the rooms and you were at the time
- 22:12at least, crafting your own room set and you were very limited in
- 22:14with the materials that you were doing dealing with.
- 22:17And it was like, cutting them out of cardboard or construction
- 22:19paper. And I thought that was really
- 22:21admirable, because regardless of materials, that one has to work
- 22:25with the intent and the purpose behind doing it has Think more
- 22:31weight and then there's more power and it versus the actual
- 22:35material, you may not be able to procure wood from a
- 22:38fruit-bearing tree or stones from a river or whatever.
- 22:41The case may be the more common materials that you might see use
- 22:45but you were you were being Innovative and you were thinking
- 22:47with a pure heart I felt and it was really neat to see you take
- 22:52that approach. So from since then, you know,
- 22:56where have you, where have you grown?
- 22:58Like what is what is What has been your story since that?
- 23:00I want people to know a little bit about the The Saga of Wyatt
- 23:03Coverdale, if you're willing to share it, What's exactly?
- 23:09Are you asking me? Do you mean like how I view that
- 23:13icon, that that concept of the rooms now?
- 23:16Yeah, let's start with that. Let's start with that and see
- 23:18where it goes, since I brought it up.
- 23:21So the cardboard thing, not a lot has really changed since
- 23:26then. I've gotten better materials, of
- 23:29course from your rooms at thank you.
- 23:30By the way, I would say that. Aesthetic, does make a pretty
- 23:36big change in Magic because it's sort of sets up everything.
- 23:38But regardless of that the material which you use doesn't
- 23:42necessarily matter much so long as the I guess the archetype of
- 23:47what you're trying to represent their stuff in there.
- 23:50I mean, once you get to an advanced enough level in it, you
- 23:53don't even need materials. Anybody can just do it in your
- 23:55head, but it does is one of the most important Revelations I
- 24:00think and Magic is that minimalism Is like a way of
- 24:06refining yourself in the sense that you don't need the most
- 24:11high price materials from the rarest locations?
- 24:16Sure. Oh yeah.
- 24:18I mean, that's, I mean, that's, I would have definitely agree
- 24:19with that. I mean, most of the material
- 24:21that I procure for my crafting Tsar readily available in the
- 24:26marketplace, you know, they're not, you know, it's not like I'm
- 24:30making regular rooms, that's out of, you know, thousand-year-old
- 24:35Bog Oak. You know what I'm saying?
- 24:37Or some or some like lava stone from Iceland, you know, or
- 24:40whatever from a volcano that's been around for, you know, six
- 24:43thousand years or anything crazy like that.
- 24:48We got a we got a battery at you.
- 24:49I have my computer next to me. Okay.
- 24:54Yeah. But they like Yemen a man.
- 24:56Like the I see a lot of people that's like really trying.
- 25:04Focus hard on like you know, the rooms lately, getting a room
- 25:10set, making a room set. Where do I get one?
- 25:14You know, what should I do with them once I get them?
- 25:17And it's kind of like, well, why are you even there?
- 25:19Like, why are we even? Like what would even brought you
- 25:24to the ruins to begin with? Like, there's the whole why
- 25:27aspect? Why are you here?
- 25:29Why have you come? Why are you here right now?
- 25:31Why are you looking at this aspect of things, right?
- 25:36Sorry, my dad is. I'm sorry.
- 25:39I don't know if you can hear that.
- 25:41It's all good. It's all good.
- 25:42This is the way the random heat and ramblings goes, man, it's so
- 25:45Random. Sometimes you just get, you
- 25:46know, stop that, that pops up that, you know, that's certainly
- 25:50expect. So you were talking about like
- 25:53you haven't the things with the runes, haven't really changed
- 25:57much for you in the sense of, you know, the workings but what
- 26:00has changed for you because you and I have talked separately,
- 26:05you've been on some live streams top chimed in on some on some
- 26:08stuff and we, you know, conversate back and forth and
- 26:12our own methods with your views on Magic and and some of those
- 26:20elements and you've got I think a really almost fresh.
- 26:25I would say almost I would definitely say it's a fresh view
- 26:28on things. You know we talking about like
- 26:31deities and things that maybe people don't know about her ever
- 26:36heard about because you've seemingly have raised or some of
- 26:41them yourself. He won't talk about any of that.
- 26:46I don't know where I could get him.
- 26:50Well, My overall, My overall like view of the world has
- 26:56changed and very philosophical sense.
- 27:01At that time when I was doing, like, the cardboard thing with
- 27:04the rooms I was still sort of, in this theistic mindset.
- 27:08I was a, the universe works because there's something
- 27:13mystical about it and magicians are able to control that or
- 27:17whatever. But then I had kind of evolved.
- 27:23And My Philosophy is now based on him into assumptions which is
- 27:27that everything is infinite and every way and awareness is
- 27:30property of everything that can never go away.
- 27:35Okay? So what this means is within
- 27:38magic, at ways, it doesn't necessarily do anything, but
- 27:45instead of seeing it as a sort of cause and effect things more
- 27:48like a Prediction within an aware state that eventually
- 27:53comes true. That eventually comes true
- 27:58regardless of what elements get inserted in the mix.
- 28:03Yeah sort of it's more like a form of divination that it is
- 28:06causation. It's just at the time, you don't
- 28:08realize that it's divination because you're caught up in the
- 28:11ritual mindset. It's like, yes, sort of
- 28:15completely unaware of connection with, I guess you could call it
- 28:18the akashic record. I mean, because assuming
- 28:21everything is infinite, I mean everything.
- 28:23By the way, that would include thoughts, memories feelings.
- 28:27Is emotions. And so, if those are infinite
- 28:30somehow I've met with it imply, the existence of an akashic
- 28:33record in which those things are stored.
- 28:34So, I believe that magic is a connection to those sort of
- 28:37things to predict what may happen afterwards.
- 28:40And that's also has Spirits work, assuming that
- 28:43personalities are just sort of Collections and data.
- 28:45Perhaps we're just tuning into those parts of the akashic
- 28:48record in which those are types of storm.
- 28:50Yeah. So when you say like that
- 28:54everything is is infinite infinite.
- 28:56Meaning there is Is there? There's no beginning to it and
- 28:59there's no end to it. They didn't have a beginning and
- 29:02it didn't have an ending. Is that what you're referring to
- 29:03as be as being infinite? No conceivable then within time
- 29:06nor space complete? No no conceivable and so my, you
- 29:11know, so once thoughts one's perceptions one's ideas, that
- 29:15get put into existence in the moment is infinite are infinite
- 29:21there. There's, there's no conceivable
- 29:23end to an idea. I had a person may do no write
- 29:29down on a piece of paper or speak into existence, or portray
- 29:35in any sort of digestible format.
- 29:38Think of it like this, let's say you have a thought about
- 29:42something interesting and then you immediately forget about
- 29:45that thought. Now, your got that thought was
- 29:48there, but the data that was collected within that little
- 29:50Photon of whatever that pop was still has that data stored in.
- 29:54It's just Somewhere. It's been lost with you.
- 29:57It's outside of your senses, but it still exists within, so it's
- 29:59outside of your conscious self, right?
- 30:01Yes, it's outside of the conscious existence and I think
- 30:04a lot of us experience that on a very regular basis maybe day to
- 30:07day, but especially during like dream states.
- 30:10Like, I know how you have that. I mean, I got woken up from
- 30:12dreams. I'm like, I need to remember
- 30:14this. And then almost literally within
- 30:16the second set, it takes for you to awaken from that dream state
- 30:19into a conscious awareness of you being outside of that dream.
- 30:23The Recollections, the Memories of what took place in that dream
- 30:27state seem to just Drift Away into nothingness.
- 30:30Like, you're losing it before. You can even grab a hold of it.
- 30:34If we were saying it in a physical sort of scientifical
- 30:38sense, if you were to forget something that data doesn't just
- 30:42go away. It just gets transmitted into
- 30:44something else. And if we were thinking
- 30:45metaphysically, we can say that all that data, him, conceivable
- 30:49Universe would sort of be like this, this field of information
- 30:52and that would be what I would Define as the akashic record
- 30:56with the collection of all data with inconceivable.
- 30:59What do you what record now is? You say a conscious?
- 31:04Akashic record. Kaushik, okay, okay.
- 31:06Just making sure that we got that because it was it was
- 31:08broken up, a little akashic record, talk a little bit about
- 31:12your understanding of that because I don't know a lot of
- 31:15people myself included that that have a clear understanding of
- 31:18what we're referring to. When we talk about this akashic
- 31:21record, okay, well, the akashic record.
- 31:27It's this thought in, I think, Hinduism, that somehow got mixed
- 31:30in with new age beliefs, That there's this sort of record
- 31:36within the universe where all thoughts and memories and the
- 31:39senses and feelings, and emotions, all perceived things
- 31:42within the universe are stored somewhere.
- 31:45That storage is the akashic record, okay, tap into these
- 31:49sort of things, and basically make magic Adam memorize,
- 31:54anything have anything happen. So, okay, I accept it's like the
- 32:00collective Consciousness like an archive?
- 32:02Yeah. Les.
- 32:04Yeah, so in some ways, like there are things like that at
- 32:09least over the over the years. And this may have to do with
- 32:12just the, the relative time and space existence that we that we
- 32:18have. There's this the deja vu
- 32:21concept, right? Like, I've done this, I've
- 32:23experienced this, I've heard this, I've seen this somewhere
- 32:26some other time before, I just can't really put my finger on it
- 32:29where but it feels so familiar that's like this is like a
- 32:32memory taking Ace in that exact moment.
- 32:36Would you say that that's drawing or withdrawing maybe
- 32:42from that akashic record of data, as as being something that
- 32:46needs to be manifested in that moment that happened at another
- 32:51Point time that maybe wasn't needed at that point in time,
- 32:54but just got like, you say stored in this kind of archive
- 32:57database as it were We thoughts on that?
- 33:02Okay, first of all, when I say database, I'm being completely
- 33:06metaphorical, like I don't mean sure of data.
- 33:09Just yeah, yeah, I get it. Secondly, I haven't actually
- 33:14thought about that yet, wait a minute.
- 33:17Are you saying that I'm bringing in things into wyattmoy?
- 33:20Why it's mine that he hasn't thought of yet?
- 33:23But I would assume that. Okay.
- 33:26Imagine you. Eating a ritual to let's say get
- 33:31money or something. Hmm.
- 33:35Now that ritual with the understanding that I have would
- 33:37be a sort of Divination in which you're in an unaware stayed
- 33:43predicting that that money will come to you and then I'm dire.
- 33:49Oh crap. Where was I going with this run
- 33:54that prediction? I would say that Deja Vu is sort
- 33:58of like that but in a completely unintentional sense like you
- 34:01weren't trying to set up the ritual, it just happen for some
- 34:04reasons. Yeah, well, you know what I mean
- 34:06by that, right? Like deja vu, right?
- 34:08You understand. Like I've been places before
- 34:11that I've or I've had experiences before that felt so
- 34:17familiar to me. That it was like, I was here.
- 34:20I've been to this place, I've heard this sound.
- 34:23I've smelled this smell like experience, some sort of, like,
- 34:26one of the five senses were more at the same time.
- 34:29That made me think that I I personally had had been here and
- 34:34some might say that it's a, you know, kind of like a
- 34:36subconscious or or a past whether its ancestral, or
- 34:41whatever reliving of that moment from something or somebody else.
- 34:48You're connected with somehow through the cosmos, right?
- 34:51Like you have as an ancestral tie or there was an experience
- 34:54or a moment that you're in that your ear yet point a right now
- 35:00and you are never at Point a before but somebody else that
- 35:02was connected to you is at Point a and somehow there's like this
- 35:05this ether will connection or the subconscious connection of
- 35:09where time and space just kind of melds into one of then you're
- 35:12like, I'm here, even though I wasn't here, I know about it,
- 35:15even though I wasn't there at that moment.
- 35:18And that's our good. So so what you're saying is Deja
- 35:26Vu is most commonly either sort of ancestral connection like
- 35:30some past life or something has been here before and so you see
- 35:33it as that I'm like, yeah I mean I don't know if I don't really I
- 35:36don't have enough knowledge behind the concept of deja vu to
- 35:40know that if it's 100% connected or related to ancestral
- 35:44experiences, all I know is like, if I am just going to use this,
- 35:49like, if I drove to Buffalo New York, or if I drove to Erie
- 35:53Pennsylvania, if I drove to ha, Hollywood California.
- 35:56Right? And I'd never been there a day
- 35:58in my life, my conscious life and my nearly 40 Years of
- 36:02physical existence of. I'd never been to any one of
- 36:04those places before, but I reached a certain point in and
- 36:06all of a sudden I was hit with this.
- 36:07Like I know where I'm at. I know if I turned down this
- 36:10road, I'm going to reach that venue.
- 36:12I'm going to reach that store. I know something about this
- 36:15place that I can't place. Like, why do I know this?
- 36:21It's because of a experience that is Have tied to me that
- 36:26that's almost like a memory reliving in its moment.
- 36:30So whether its ancestral or whether it's I don't, you know,
- 36:32I can't validate that per se. I'm just saying like it almost
- 36:36say it, it sounds a bit like the, that the, the record, the
- 36:43I'm losing the, the word that you the akashic record.
- 36:47The exact that's that's where that information is stored and
- 36:49then because of whatever conscious effort was done in
- 36:53this space and time. It's now Being manifested in
- 36:58from that record. I don't know.
- 36:59I'm getting I'm going off into like some, whoo Rabbit Hole
- 37:05thoughts of things but could it be that within the akashic
- 37:09record of data, right? That, that's where we get such
- 37:14experience as Déjà Vu. Because it's not that we're
- 37:17trying to manifest it right now. It's just that, it just so
- 37:20happens. It needs to be manifested right
- 37:22now and that's why it's Reaching us.
- 37:27So my theory on this that I totally just came up with along
- 37:31the way, so don't trust it. Yeah.
- 37:36Is that, you know, that sort of State in which like your semi
- 37:42awaken, your semi asleep? Like you just got woken up from
- 37:45a really good sleep. Yeah, they call that call.
- 37:48I call it the Twilight Stage any like, sort of still half.
- 37:53Way dreaming. If that makes sense like you
- 37:55slipping. Yeah, yeah.
- 37:57Yeah. What?
- 37:59If when Deja Vu happens, you know when you're in that sort of
- 38:03where State nothing really makes sense.
- 38:05It's just sensory input and then your output to like let's say
- 38:11you hear a voice calling to within the real world or
- 38:14something. But in your head since you're in
- 38:17that state you just believe it to be your thoughts, bouncing
- 38:19around. What if that's sort of what they
- 38:22do, who is like something in your brain must misfire or
- 38:26something you're in this area and you, you have, you have a
- 38:33sudden memory of it, but then that my memory goes away and
- 38:36then when you wake up from that, you like holy crap.
- 38:38I've been here before. But you sort of You observe it,
- 38:43you flash out of it, you forget about it, then you wake up from
- 38:46that you re observe it and sort of a call that memory other.
- 38:50That's like I said, it's a sensory overload or sensory
- 38:54reaction to the conditions in around.
- 38:58You could be something, could be nothing but once again totally
- 39:02made up that seems like the most plausible answer to me.
- 39:05Yeah. But yeah, not in the reason why
- 39:08I kind of brought it up, right? Is because when you were talking
- 39:11about About like the the ritual, you know putting things out or
- 39:16you know, you use that you use the analogy of getting more
- 39:22money, right? Like I'll tell you right now for
- 39:25like the last, well, pretty much for my whole life, like almost
- 39:28daily, I've been conducting Money.
- 39:32Getting rituals it's called a job, right?
- 39:35It's called it's called going out there and working for a wage
- 39:40or it's called, you know, Doing something to procure monetary
- 39:44gain right now. I get what you're trying to say
- 39:47in terms of like, putting something out that you don't
- 39:51necessarily have physical control over and using you know,
- 39:55your Metaphysical understanding of the world or your world views
- 40:01on things to try and speak into existence or try to put out into
- 40:05existence, the procurement of said money.
- 40:10Right. But I always liked used like
- 40:12when you say that example like well man that's called just
- 40:14getting a job. Like that's that's a daily
- 40:16ritual you know. And again it's not putting
- 40:20anything what you're saying down, it's just almost like
- 40:22putting things into perspective for people that are like, oh,
- 40:25how do I get more money? Well, You become creative, you
- 40:29think of ways to, you know, work the system to your benefit and
- 40:36to procure monetary gain in a way that is beneficial to not
- 40:41just you. But maybe to others, you know,
- 40:42you were either provide a service or your provide a good
- 40:45and I mean, that's that's business.
- 40:48So, like let some of the other things, you know, like, I don't
- 40:52know, for I think a lot of times like money is one of the things
- 40:54like money getting like how do I get more money?
- 40:56How do we become more wealthy? How do I, you know, Attain more
- 40:59wealth. Some other things might be such
- 41:02things as may be non tangible stuff.
- 41:04Like love and affection Right. How do I win over the heart of
- 41:09this person or that person? How do I make them like me, how
- 41:11do I you know and there there's like plenty of star that you're
- 41:15familiar with some of like the the Icelandic the golden Stout
- 41:20for and and some of the other like Icelandic room stabs and
- 41:23things that are heavily heavily rooted in.
- 41:30Judaic Kabbalah is MM. Like there's a lot of that that
- 41:36is clear and all that type of Magic, I guess you might call it
- 41:43that has, you know, you put this staff for, you know, to sleep
- 41:47better or to not sleep or to you know get over and it an upset
- 41:51stomach or some of these other things, you know, I don't know.
- 41:57I feel like it's so much of it is like the mysticism behind it.
- 42:03Is is maybe I don't want to say lost in the translation, but
- 42:09it's like, are you actually doing the thing first?
- 42:12Are you doing the actual literal work first?
- 42:15Like, okay, so you got a job and, you know, whatever you
- 42:17year, you're taking the right vitamins, you're eating good,
- 42:21right? You're doing all the physical
- 42:22things that you need to do to obtain the results that you're
- 42:25trying to obtain. I feel like some people get they
- 42:29skip all that they they did they did today.
- 42:32They Is get into the whole, quote unquote, magical aspects
- 42:35of things. I had to I accomplished XYZ and
- 42:39they don't want to do the work. They don't want to actually put
- 42:41the work in to achieve it. Yeah, I would say that.
- 42:51Calling work. We're calling a job at sort of
- 42:56ritual to get money. You pretty spot-on with that
- 42:59because doing the work itself does not somehow generate money.
- 43:02Spontaneously doing the work, gives you a very hard set
- 43:08prediction that money will come from doing it.
- 43:10And that sort of synchronicity is what causes that to happen.
- 43:13Now, if we apply that to other things like say, If you sprinkle
- 43:21water on an altar, something that will cause a storm.
- 43:23Let's say that, for example, right?
- 43:26That would trick irrationality into believing them and now that
- 43:31your your rationality is with it now that you're sensible self is
- 43:35with it, although completely unaware Lee, you're sort of
- 43:38predicting that was going to happen.
- 43:40Now that your awareness and your senses senses are sort of in
- 43:43tune with each other. It becomes a lot more
- 43:46rationally, plausible to happen until I seen that broken.
- 43:50So, part of it, Placebo. Part of it is like this sort of
- 43:53akashic prediction. Yeah, that's a good.
- 43:57I think it's a good like summary of it.
- 44:00It's, you know, there is the placebo effect that like, I
- 44:04think, no matter how devout you are into, whatever approach, you
- 44:08may have into, you know, spirituality religion,
- 44:11philosophy, metaphysics like Sometimes you just you believe
- 44:17it it to be because it's the placebo effect, right?
- 44:20Like I'm you know, you just have that that that's there and it's
- 44:24a good thing to recognize that some other things I think to do
- 44:28with with magic, it doesn't always make it like magic
- 44:31doesn't inherently mean something of, you know,
- 44:35non-tangible and metaphysic nature.
- 44:38I feel I was talking to a guy, a matter of fact, I think was the
- 44:41last, the last podcast, you know, he was talking about how
- 44:44he He crafts, he cars would guard posts, right?
- 44:49And it's 100% Germanic and its aesthetic and in his nature.
- 44:55So he carves a lot of like the Norse gods.
- 44:57And he was telling me a story about how he carved and Odin
- 45:01peace, and he presented it to a friend of his who was, or is
- 45:07atheist and it has no like has nothing to do with paganism.
- 45:11He has no spiritual background in any sort of You know,
- 45:17specific sense and and the the gesture of the gift, like when
- 45:21he presented this item to his friend, you know, he was telling
- 45:25me that his friend held the item which again to his to his friend
- 45:30was just a carved piece of wood, you know?
- 45:32I mean, like it had nothing of spiritual value necessarily to
- 45:35the man, but regardless of that, he held it and it was brought to
- 45:42tears like he felt so So moved by, we can only assume the
- 45:48gesture the gift and what it meant that it brought this
- 45:51person to tears. And I was talking to him about
- 45:54and I said, you know, for somebody that doesn't have any
- 45:56sort of like Connection to the Norse gods or the Germanic gods.
- 46:02And to, you know, for an old sense of the word had, no, this
- 46:06this piece had no meaning to them the gesture, the gift, the
- 46:12presenting of this item. To this person may have been
- 46:16magic in and of itself because of its intent.
- 46:18And of its pure desire to want to give a gift to a friend like
- 46:23that, that can really that can change someone and And when you
- 46:28talk about giving things to people and then all of a sudden,
- 46:31they're there, their minds are changed or their, their hearts
- 46:34are gladdened or, you know, I mean like that's magic at work.
- 46:39That's literally like you're changing someone's emotion
- 46:41through the effort through the process through the doing of
- 46:44things. And you know, what, whatever
- 46:46chemical things that are going on.
- 46:48Scientifically speaking, you could call that magic man, like,
- 46:52I feel like you could like there's magic at work at that
- 46:55point to make It's the, I would say that him giving the sky that
- 47:03God post is sort of like the emotional /, meta physical
- 47:08version of saying, hey here, drink this.
- 47:11You know, it's, it's a very sort of chemical Korea reactions in
- 47:18the brain. Can definitely be triggered
- 47:19through emotions. I approved this multiple times
- 47:21and so, a lot of other people. Yep.
- 47:24So I would say that Within that magic takes place.
- 47:29Well, partially, as I said, it's sort of partially Placebo and
- 47:32something actually - yeah, it's a majority of it.
- 47:37Yeah, right. Because I mean, who I'm, you
- 47:39know again without being there without knowing the full details
- 47:43behind it all like the day that this all occurred, right?
- 47:47I'm sure I could only assume at least that the man who was given
- 47:51this gift. Had no intention, or no thoughts
- 47:54of being impacted in that, To play, it was a, it was a sudden,
- 48:00you know, random gesture, that triggered the effect that it
- 48:04did. So, But I think again you know
- 48:08whatever whatever depiction or whatever description you want to
- 48:12place on the word magic or whatever.
- 48:14I feel like it there's more feeling behind it than there is
- 48:16a definition. Its there there's there's magic
- 48:19that exists in so many things. Things are magical without even
- 48:22being the work of magic. You know what I'm saying?
- 48:25Like I talked recently about an experience that I had because
- 48:31I'd be I go on these like River walks nearby my house.
- 48:35And it's a river that has a lot of traffic, you know, there's a
- 48:40lot of people that frequent it but I was I, I stepped into the
- 48:45river and I go like literally, you know, it'll vary from like
- 48:50ankle-deep up to like above my head.
- 48:52So it's very different like the the terrain walking through the
- 48:56river, you never know, you know what, what hole you're going to
- 48:59step into or where you're going to be.
- 49:00So it's a, it's a bit of a challenge in that way, but when
- 49:03I walk into the river, it's almost like stepping out of my I
- 49:06normal existence into the Wilds, existence, because this is not
- 49:12where I live and breathe and exist every day.
- 49:15It's where they exist and breathe every day.
- 49:17So, in that sense, right? It's literally physically just
- 49:21walking into a river, but from me, in my mind, it's like,
- 49:24stepping out of a realm into a different realm and I am
- 49:28interacting with other beings and I experience things that
- 49:32happen in nature all the time. You know, herons flyover, they
- 49:35Crow. Ook, they make themselves
- 49:37present, right? All these various things that
- 49:39for the average, Joe might just be like, well, that's just them
- 49:42being them, and that's just them doing what they're doing and
- 49:44like, yeah, but I was there for it and I was experiencing it.
- 49:46And so for me, in that state of mind that I was in, it was it
- 49:50was a magical experience. It was connecting with other
- 49:55sentient beings around me that are not human, but are living in
- 50:00such nonetheless, right? All right.
- 50:03I get what you're saying. It's some it's the sort of I go
- 50:09for walks not too often but often enough and Barefoot is no,
- 50:19not there for me. Oh man, you missing out.
- 50:22Dude, I live in like as ghetto as ghetto, can possibly get 0.
- 50:28If I walk Barefoot, I would have needles in my feet.
- 50:31Well, yeah, I mean okay, like be careful, right?
- 50:34But if you can find like, bare ground, like grass, even like
- 50:38take your shoes off, walk in the grass where it's safe.
- 50:40You'll it's a live experience. So I didn't mean to cut you off
- 50:45there. But God, you do walk frequently,
- 50:47whatever. But it's all good.
- 50:51So I it is a sort of very liberating experience, because
- 50:56when you're there, Let's say without technology.
- 51:00Usually, okay, I usually keep my technology in the house.
- 51:03Why do you are away from everything?
- 51:07And you're sort of just left with your thoughts and whatever
- 51:09your environment. Just kidding you and it's this
- 51:13very liberating feeling. In the sense that nobody is
- 51:15telling me what to do, you have nowhere to go?
- 51:18You'd be totally cool with dying.
- 51:20In other words, like you could die right there on the spot and
- 51:23be perfectly fine. I think that's what most people
- 51:26try to achieve with spirituality.
- 51:27Is this. That's what I would see is
- 51:30Enlightenment. Really, it's a great way of
- 51:32seeing it but like a freedom. Yeah, yeah, the freedom to fall
- 51:40back into my basically, it sounds more morbid than it
- 51:46should. But that's that's sort of What
- 51:48It Is. Well, I think that.
- 51:50Yeah well the morbidity of it is is I think where the the
- 51:54liberating aspects, reside because There's so much Unknown
- 51:59about life after death largely. It's based on.
- 52:04First of all, what have we been told our whole lives.
- 52:07What has been fed to us through whether it's indoctrination or
- 52:11spiritual beliefs or whatever or what we discover as we grow
- 52:16through our lives, right? Like we don't just come up with
- 52:19this concept of what life after death is like on our own.
- 52:23There's influence somewhere somehow that that brings us to
- 52:27This concept of what it's like. So I feel like when we and I do
- 52:33the same thing, like, when I go on those River walks because
- 52:35again, I never know. I mean, I know now because of
- 52:38the places of the river that very in-depth, I don't take my
- 52:41technology with me because first of all, like it's, you know, a
- 52:45thousand dollar piece of equipment, I'm not gonna, I'm
- 52:48not gonna, you know, bring it into the river and risk getting
- 52:50it destroyed because I, you know, step into a deep hole and
- 52:53then my water, my phone is underwater number one but
- 52:57secondly, it Like I don't want it with me.
- 52:59I do I want to be just me and nature.
- 53:01I want to be out here with them and have no other sort of you
- 53:08know distractions or whatever with me.
- 53:10But so like the morbidity of the, you know, being Free To
- 53:17Live and Die in that Primal existence of ourselves.
- 53:23It does it touches on a very Primal or primordial essence of
- 53:28us, pieces of ourselves that exists that haven't really been
- 53:32awoken or spoken to or touched until we go out there.
- 53:37Here's here's how I see it. I'm going to, I'm going to try
- 53:39and run you through a hypothetically let's say.
- 53:45There's somebody who does not have access to technology.
- 53:51Has, no job. Has no house to worry about has
- 53:56no friends or family to worry about literally has nothing to
- 53:59live for. He's just sort of wondering
- 54:02about and it has the full ability to just I guess die
- 54:10right in the street very stands because you would have a concern
- 54:14about it. He wouldn't there would be
- 54:16nothing waiting for him to keep him alive.
- 54:19And so he could just so to a person who is trapped with from
- 54:23delusion of society, that sounds like a very terrible experience
- 54:27to have no friends, no family, no job, nothing for no purpose.
- 54:31The sounds like a terrible thing and people would usually strive
- 54:33to not have that at all. But two people who are Sort of
- 54:40like you and me I would assume. That's sort of our goal really
- 54:47is to, I mean, we're still obviously going to have families
- 54:50and friends. It's that's enough and we want
- 54:54to keep him around any way. They like their good attachments
- 54:56to have, but to separate yourself from all of these
- 54:59things, it's like getting rid of the chains that bind you.
- 55:04There's a there's a, there's a days.
- 55:07I mean, I'll speak for myself, right?
- 55:09There's a fine line between what you're talking about the to the
- 55:14die-cut like that that I did that dichotomy or the Dynamics
- 55:17of between the two things, right?
- 55:19There's a desire to be a part of something and a desire to not be
- 55:24a part of things into just exist in this.
- 55:28Way where I don't have nothing else to worry about.
- 55:31I'm just existing and I'm just vibing with the things that Vibe
- 55:34around me, right? At least, I'm sorry, no, yeah.
- 55:40At least from your what, at least from my perspective, but
- 55:45I'll put it in a metaphor. The ability to leave a room at
- 55:49any time whenever you want with no consequence whatsoever is
- 55:53like the greatest feeling in the world.
- 55:55It's the most liberating. Thing that could possibly be
- 55:58sure, you know, and I mean, there's there's been plenty of
- 56:02times and here's the weirdly. Here's the really neat thing
- 56:04that people may not realize just by listening or watching right
- 56:08now is that the the the time of existence on this Earth between
- 56:15myself and Wyatt is pretty vast. You're much younger than I am.
- 56:22And, and so the experience the time on this plane, right?
- 56:26The time. Businesses in this world of a
- 56:29physical existence shapes a person differently.
- 56:33So the longer you're here. I think there's there's going to
- 56:35be things that again, shape, your views and provide a
- 56:40perspective. And for you to have the
- 56:42perspective that you have right now at such a young age.
- 56:44I don't know many people even myself included.
- 56:47I don't think I was thinking the same way about life that you are
- 56:51when I was your age. And so, There's all there's that
- 56:56whole thing to take into consideration.
- 56:58How it's a perception, right like okay so is is you know, 40
- 57:02years versus 15 years on this planet, really matter, does it
- 57:08really matter when you take into consideration what we're talking
- 57:11about right now, like this is, this is conversation material
- 57:14that I would be having a of a with somebody I think it was at
- 57:18least my age or older. So we're blowing we're blowing
- 57:23things out of the water in terms of Stereotypes right now like
- 57:26for anybody that thinks that you can't have an educated
- 57:28conversation with somebody who is you know, decades younger
- 57:31than you. Here's the proof you can and and
- 57:34and you can learn from from people and we can learn from
- 57:38from all types of walks of life. So, again, the line between
- 57:44existing with purpose and and wanting to exist without
- 57:48purpose, and just having that freedom to be void of it all
- 57:52without fear of consequence. Again, it's a fine line.
- 57:54That's where I feel like those that have the tenure, those that
- 57:59have the miles under the tires, look to experience that freedom
- 58:04that that freeness, that that Liberation, through such things,
- 58:07as shamanic work because you have that temporary ability to
- 58:14leave and be something else and be somewhere else and do other
- 58:18things that have no consequence of your other half, your other
- 58:23part, the other Out of you, the other parts of you that work
- 58:27from the day-to-day that have responsibilities obligations.
- 58:30You know, it feeds that desire to want to just be free of it
- 58:36all and in a good and holistic way.
- 58:40Yeah you know well first of all I'm flattered I didn't expect
- 58:44that to be said well you know I don't I don't first of all I
- 58:47don't bullshit here. I don't say things that I don't
- 58:50really mean from my heart and they know what I say is that out
- 58:54of sincerity. Michael Joseph II.
- 58:58Thank you. You've been probably a pretty
- 59:01large inspiration to me if that means anything.
- 59:04There you go. So yeah, sure does thank you.
- 59:10Yeah, the reason why I am like this at this age just because
- 59:14I'm one of those people that don't really have much to worry
- 59:16about like I spend most of my time in my room just thinking of
- 59:22stuff and watching thing everybody.
- 59:25D, everybody out there. If you had any time have
- 59:29children, I'm not going to tell you how to raise him, but the
- 59:31very least. I suggest that you just give
- 59:35them like two hours outside when they just do nothing but they
- 59:38just sit there for a while and think because after a while that
- 59:43after a while that sort of isolation the game, this sort of
- 59:45self-awareness and they're able to see things within this sort
- 59:51of State, I think that's where I'm getting the struggles that
- 59:55after a while. Just sitting and sort of doing
- 59:57nothing. You start thinking of things
- 1:00:00Beyond just societal morning. Yeah, you look past that you
- 1:00:04broken out of that and so you can think of player for this
- 1:00:06often sort of thing. Well, I think you're in a very
- 1:00:09unique position yourself to because I once again, I don't
- 1:00:13know many people and many adults with with children that have
- 1:00:21adopted that sort of mentality. Because again, one of the
- 1:00:24saddest things that I've come Um, to recently learn about is a
- 1:00:29very large respectively. Large Global organization that
- 1:00:36has very racist. Roots.
- 1:00:39There, there there, it's the AFA.
- 1:00:41And they have this, this online curriculum for for homeschooling
- 1:00:44and they started with kindergarten the kindergarten
- 1:00:47curriculum. They are actively developing.
- 1:00:51Learning curriculums educational curriculums that are built
- 1:00:55around their ideals, and their thoughts, and their processes,
- 1:01:00their true. They're literally shaping future
- 1:01:02racists. It's disheartening, it's
- 1:01:05disgusting. It is tragic to say the least
- 1:01:08and anybody that listening watching that wants to know more
- 1:01:10about it. Rune, Stone dot-org.
- 1:01:14If you go there and you look at their information and stuff and
- 1:01:18you'll see it is 100% racist. Even racially driven, it's
- 1:01:22disgusting. So with that being said, like
- 1:01:25there's a lot of that effort being going to indoctrinate and
- 1:01:29to teach impressionable Minds. Okay, because again, they're
- 1:01:33starting at the kindergarten age, that 4 5 that 5 to 7 year
- 1:01:36old brain is like, you literally tell them that the, that water
- 1:01:41isn't wet. And they'll, they'll believe
- 1:01:44that water isn't wet. Like, they'll believe what you
- 1:01:47tell them. It's and, and When when that
- 1:01:51kind of effort is being put into such impressionable Minds rather
- 1:01:56than cultivating and nurturing them into a holistic view of
- 1:02:00things and perhaps being given the opportunity that you have
- 1:02:02Wyatt to discover things yourself, that's more of what I
- 1:02:07want to say. I want to see like you, you you
- 1:02:11know, nurture children. You nurture.
- 1:02:13Those impressionable Minds to know what the world is around
- 1:02:17the, but give them the opportunity to learn themselves
- 1:02:20and At a point given the opportunity to discover and
- 1:02:24learn things themselves. So many people are afraid of
- 1:02:27having their kids fall and hurt themselves.
- 1:02:29Like well that's how they learn. That's how we learned.
- 1:02:32You learn from tripping up and falling along the way and making
- 1:02:36mistakes like, you know, you know, you know, touch that hot
- 1:02:39thing because it's going to hurt when you do and that's part of
- 1:02:42the learning process. Personally, I don't think that
- 1:02:46an institution In any capacity teach this sort of like
- 1:02:51philosophical things. If we're talking philosophical
- 1:02:54like there's some great like hidden schools of thought in the
- 1:02:58world that attempt to. But it's more of a personal
- 1:03:02revelation that you get to in. Those are just aids for it.
- 1:03:04Yeah, I agree. II would agree that schools
- 1:03:08aren't really like they provide useful information if you trying
- 1:03:12to exist within the society but they don't provide useful
- 1:03:16information own. What you doing here?
- 1:03:19How to be happy? This deep philosophical stuff
- 1:03:24that were talking about? Yeah, they don't mind any of
- 1:03:26that. And so I feel like a lot of
- 1:03:29people are sort of spiritually lost anyway.
- 1:03:34They are men II think, I think a lot of people are spiritually
- 1:03:37deprived. I think lost is a surface level
- 1:03:42description of it, but they're deprived man, they're lacking.
- 1:03:45But here is where that gets really bad.
- 1:03:51People can definitely use that against you because a part of
- 1:03:56wearing these sort of philosophical things, is that
- 1:03:58feeling of Liberation that we can talk about the sort of
- 1:04:01Enlightenment of purpose Listen, this make sense without that,
- 1:04:08people are really easy to be. Yes people are really easy to
- 1:04:13like control and manipulate and do whatever you want to.
- 1:04:17Yeah. Oh yeah.
- 1:04:19Because otherwise they wouldn't really have a concept of what
- 1:04:21exactly freedom is. They just assume that freedom is
- 1:04:24rights but that doesn't make sense.
- 1:04:25I mean your dog has rights in a free obviously not.
- 1:04:29So yeah I mean you know again it goes back to the hole.
- 1:04:35The whole thing of, you know what, we are taught from a very
- 1:04:38young age. It's we think the way we think I
- 1:04:42say we as a very loose term Society thinks the way that they
- 1:04:47think largely because of what they were told to think the way
- 1:04:52they were told to think it the way they were told to believe it
- 1:04:55my family's for the longest time.
- 1:04:58You know, I mean I went away from all of that, you know, and
- 1:05:02there they are. Are still, you know, believing
- 1:05:05what they believe thinking, what they think because of what
- 1:05:07somebody else, hold them to think and believe me, I mean
- 1:05:15that isn't necessarily A Bad Thing, enough itself.
- 1:05:19The thing that makes it bad is that they're using it
- 1:05:22practically and intentionally to people.
- 1:05:24Keep people told them, that's where my concern comes, like,
- 1:05:27institutions on their own are not bad things.
- 1:05:29They teach people, it's wonderful.
- 1:05:31What they do with it is, Yeah I think that's an important
- 1:05:36aspect. The inherent the inherent value
- 1:05:39behind such institutions as you say aren't there's no inherent
- 1:05:43evil to it or there's it's not inherently bad.
- 1:05:47Yeah. And I'm glad that you brought
- 1:05:48that up because I don't want people to think that, you know,
- 1:05:51we're over here. Just be like, everybody just be
- 1:05:52themselves and think the way they want think in the hell was
- 1:05:54schools and the hell with higher education and all that.
- 1:05:57Like, no, you know, that's I'm glad that you brought that up
- 1:06:01because I could be I could definitely see where I might be
- 1:06:04persuaded Earth or thanked and that this is where we're going
- 1:06:07with this and to be, you know, it that it's misconstrued.
- 1:06:11Absolutely. Not.
- 1:06:12You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
- 1:06:15Yeah. I think that at least from my
- 1:06:21point of view from what I've examined, one of the main issues
- 1:06:24with it is that they take things far too literal.
- 1:06:27Yeah, we're all these little factoids about things but you
- 1:06:32never want to be true. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:06:34The application of it, the, the practicality of it, you know,
- 1:06:39there was also that so it must be true.
- 1:06:42Like you just told that and then you have to believe that.
- 1:06:44But outside of that, That it's like, let's say you're taking a
- 1:06:49biology class or something. You get all of this amazing
- 1:06:53knowledge about the body. How it heals itself, how to heal
- 1:06:57it with medicine? Those sort of things.
- 1:07:00But what I feel like they neglect to teach in those sort
- 1:07:03of schools is, although that isn't the top get hand, okay?
- 1:07:07That's fair. Teach them how to apply that
- 1:07:10biology to other things. See how they can like, draw
- 1:07:13lines between things. Make connections between like,
- 1:07:19let's say I think the Greeks were the first people do this,
- 1:07:22like the bile in the stomach that would sort of represent the
- 1:07:25breaking down of things. Try observing that in the
- 1:07:29natural world. World and see what that sort of
- 1:07:32awakens. And what would that be realized?
- 1:07:35Once again that isn't the topic at hand?
- 1:07:36So it's fair that they don't teach it but I feel like they
- 1:07:38should because that I think that's important that's like a
- 1:07:41necessary part of critical thinking is to draw a line
- 1:07:44between things that don't necessarily correlate.
- 1:07:46Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 1:07:48And I mentioned to you offline, one time about my loss speaker,
- 1:07:52Patrick and how you guys knew he needed me to each other and
- 1:07:56talk. I would love it if we could get
- 1:07:58on a podcast together with the three of us.
- 1:08:01His schedule is so odd that it would have to be like on a weird
- 1:08:03night or something that we do this.
- 1:08:04But well, I would love to work on making this happen if you're
- 1:08:07willing because he has developed a system over the last 20 years
- 1:08:12that he refers to as a grow, man.
- 1:08:15See a grown man, see. So it's very like agriculturally
- 1:08:19focused. It's an agriculturally Focus
- 1:08:26system that has like different stations.
- 1:08:30Different tables, different men, Dalek work.
- 1:08:36That comes out of it of their Roots.
- 1:08:38It's very fascinating. It's very in-depth.
- 1:08:41Like there's absolutely no. He has a, he has a class coming
- 1:08:43up in October at the upcoming, Shadow moved here in Tennessee,
- 1:08:47that he's going to be like, revealing it to the public, as
- 1:08:50it were, which again he's been working on this for 20.
- 1:08:52Years and nobody's seen it except him me and, like, a
- 1:08:54couple other people, and he's gonna be like, revealing it to
- 1:08:58the public in in about a month and a half.
- 1:09:01I think you would absolutely be blown away and you would
- 1:09:05probably eat it all up with what he has to show.
- 1:09:07And if I could ever happen, workout a discussion or whatever
- 1:09:13with all of us. And so I think you would really
- 1:09:15see it. Because again, it connects the
- 1:09:18dots where the dots aren't so visibly.
- 1:09:23The lines aren't so visibly drawn, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:09:26So it's the future man. If I really think that that's so
- 1:09:30much of what people are looking for, in terms of spirituality
- 1:09:34divination philosophy, things like it all ties into what he's
- 1:09:39developed over the last couple of decades.
- 1:09:41It's, it's blown my mind. Let's put it that way.
- 1:09:45I'm gonna be pretty insulted by it.
- 1:09:48I think you would too. Either that or you'd be scared
- 1:09:52away below. What the hell is this?
- 1:09:53You know? Well, I have like a mix of play
- 1:09:57tennis and python python gloriam like philosophy mainly in my
- 1:10:03group of the mix, you know. So I'm not sure how much of that
- 1:10:07would correlate but would be interested.
- 1:10:09Well, I didn't know how much Norse Germanic, you know, Norse
- 1:10:13paganism would correlate but you'll find things that that do
- 1:10:18correlate. So I think Think that regardless
- 1:10:21of what, you know, one's persuasion might be.
- 1:10:25I think that it because it's again it because it's
- 1:10:27agriculturally based it's literally, you know, like the
- 1:10:30the germination, the gestation, the whole life cycles of things,
- 1:10:34I think it resonates across no matter what, you're, you know,
- 1:10:39philosophical or spiritual approach to things is or are so
- 1:10:44you'll, you know, given the chance to see it and be privy to
- 1:10:48it, I think you'll Find some, some some interesting points to
- 1:10:53take home with you, you know. Do you want me to just really
- 1:10:57quickly summarize My Philosophy, I have this thing written down
- 1:11:00here. I would love it.
- 1:11:01If you did, if you could even you can't.
- 1:11:04Yeah, I feel like I've sort of just been all over the place
- 1:11:07with this. So there are only two
- 1:11:10assumptions that My Philosophy is based on, I want to go on as
- 1:11:13few assumptions as possible and level it down to the most
- 1:11:17refined state that I can, because most likely Likely that
- 1:11:20would be the truest model that I can make.
- 1:11:22So it's only based on two assumptions which is that
- 1:11:25everything is infinite in every way.
- 1:11:27And by everything I mean everything and awareness is a
- 1:11:33property of everything that can never go away.
- 1:11:36In other terms, everything in the universe has the sort of
- 1:11:40awareness within it and keep in mind that awareness is different
- 1:11:43from Sensation. Awareness is the natural ability
- 1:11:50to know that you exist. Sensation is what sort of allows
- 1:11:54that to manifest in a way with Sensations and cognitive
- 1:11:59thoughts, that sort of bring light to the idea that you
- 1:12:03exist. I think of it like this a piece
- 1:12:06of matter, like just a floating Rock and space exists and it
- 1:12:12doesn't necessarily know that it exists. but, you know, it has
- 1:12:16this What's the word for it? You know when you're like
- 1:12:20dreaming but you don't necessarily have a dream you're
- 1:12:23just aware that you're there. Yeah well that's what that is in
- 1:12:29and something which is biological like us has the
- 1:12:31ability to make Sensations and sort of say oh crap.
- 1:12:35I exist. Yeah, I'm here.
- 1:12:38Yeah, so this thing knows it exists but this thing is able to
- 1:12:42put into cognitive thought that exists and it's okay.
- 1:12:46So Thing is infinite and every way and awareness is property.
- 1:12:50Never know what there are a lot of assumptions that can be made
- 1:12:55off East, okay? So everything is infinite in
- 1:12:59every way. If everything is infinite in
- 1:13:01every way and everything must be infant form, meaning that
- 1:13:05everything is happening, all at once, one Infinite Space and
- 1:13:08Time, so this pain, what we perceive as a pen, Is more like
- 1:13:15a field that our perception is compressing into a pain that
- 1:13:20makes sense. Like, everything within the
- 1:13:22universe, all these are types, all these thoughts, all these
- 1:13:25materials, all these sort of energies, everything, they're
- 1:13:30all sort of fields that are all happening within the same space
- 1:13:36in the same time, and our perception within them sort of
- 1:13:42limits those down into this. Experience.
- 1:13:45So if everything is infinite, and every way then everything is
- 1:13:48also infinite inability, meaning that everything is doing and
- 1:13:52being all things in it. So in other words, if this pan
- 1:14:00is an infinite field that doesn't necessarily contain
- 1:14:03space or time, then that also means that it's currently doing
- 1:14:09everything like this pain is managing everything and
- 1:14:12everything is managing lat. And that sort of noise Jesus
- 1:14:16relates between things. So, if everything is doing and
- 1:14:21being everything Lord way, then everything is also infinite.
- 1:14:25Improbability, meaning that all things are inevitable.
- 1:14:28Think of it like this, if you have an infinite amount of
- 1:14:32materials in the universe, an infinite amount of space which
- 1:14:35those materials can travel. You can say, draw a line between
- 1:14:40one material and another material.
- 1:14:42And no matter how far away if the space is indefinite with the
- 1:14:47space is infinite, then there is always an infinite likeliness
- 1:14:50that it will get another piece of matter.
- 1:14:53So it's always inevitable. That that will happen even if
- 1:14:56the space between the two are infinite.
- 1:14:58So weird thing to think about, so if all things are inevitable,
- 1:15:03within the sort of I guess, block time Universe.
- 1:15:08Then one of the things that is inevitable is everything being
- 1:15:11us right now with this Variants of this universe.
- 1:15:15That's sort of my view on it. So yeah, it's all relative you
- 1:15:20know it's all relative to our perceptions of the space and
- 1:15:24time and existence that we that we share, you know, like all
- 1:15:29times are happening at the same time, all spaces exist for this
- 1:15:33being space and everything. Who no spaces in the same area
- 1:15:38and it's sort of all this one substance that is doing and
- 1:15:41being everything. Yeah.
- 1:15:43If it doing in being everything with them, It's also being us
- 1:15:46which is separating all those times, four times, the space
- 1:15:49through spaces creating this experience rehab.
- 1:15:54Have you heard about the concept of?
- 1:16:00And I know we're getting close to time.
- 1:16:01I'm going to wrap this up. But as a thing to think about,
- 1:16:04have you heard about the concept that light is not the fastest
- 1:16:13thing that moves Of course, that's space moves faster than
- 1:16:18time. I just discovered this whole
- 1:16:24ideal or our concept very recently and I was like, hold on
- 1:16:30what? And then like, the whole like
- 1:16:32breakdown of it. Matter of fact, I'm going to try
- 1:16:34to see if I can pull it up real quick because I may or may not
- 1:16:40be able to. Yeah, I will be able to give me
- 1:16:44just a minute because This is, this is like one of those things
- 1:16:49I think it is. Yeah, hold on, let me, let me
- 1:16:52just let me just bring it up real quick because I'm gonna,
- 1:16:56I'm gonna, I was, I was, I was quite literally blown away by
- 1:17:01this. So for everybody that's like
- 1:17:04listening and watching talking about like, what are you talking
- 1:17:06about? I'm going to show you what we're
- 1:17:07what I'm talking about. Let's see, is it?
- 1:17:12Yeah, it's this. So check this out in school.
- 1:17:18Nothing can travel faster than light.
- 1:17:20You may remember that from right?
- 1:17:21We lied. They lied.
- 1:17:23Well, no, you have to parse it more carefully like a lawyer.
- 1:17:26Nothing can travel through space faster than light, but space can
- 1:17:29do whatever the hell it wants. So locally, as I told you that
- 1:17:33radio host is is at rest, they're not moving and the other
- 1:17:36end of the Galaxy at the other end of the visible universe and
- 1:17:39where rest, but the space between us is expanding.
- 1:17:42So that galaxies like a surfer is being carried away from us
- 1:17:45faster than light. Relative to the water.
- 1:17:47The surfer is moving right? But relative to the shore, the
- 1:17:51surfer is right. Right.
- 1:17:53Okay. So this this galaxy is not
- 1:17:56moving relative to its local surroundings, but it's moving
- 1:17:59away from us faster than light. And so that Galaxy, the light
- 1:18:03from that Galaxy is traveling through space at the speed of
- 1:18:05light, but if the space in between us and the galaxies
- 1:18:08moving faster than light, then the poor light can never make it
- 1:18:10to us. We call that a horizon for like
- 1:18:14wow, you know, we taught you The poor light yellow road.
- 1:18:18Yeah, I mean I granted it was on a Joe Rogan podcast but the the
- 1:18:23facts of it are is like yep. I mean, so who the hell cares
- 1:18:28where it landed or what platform it landed on.
- 1:18:31But like I was just like, oh my God, what do you mean?
- 1:18:35There's something that was faster than light.
- 1:18:39So two things, I do not see space as different from time,
- 1:18:44the sort of In My Philosophy that the same thing because
- 1:18:50let's say something is traveling across a room like a ball at
- 1:18:56like a mph or something. And it just hits the wall from
- 1:19:00your perspective. That's that ball takes longer
- 1:19:04because you're closer to it. But somebody who's away from the
- 1:19:06room and sort of observing it from the outside would see that
- 1:19:09it happens, much quicker because they're observing it from
- 1:19:11farther away. It's all about relativity.
- 1:19:13Mmm. So of course Time can move
- 1:19:17quicker than the speed of light times the thing, which allows
- 1:19:19light to move in the first place.
- 1:19:22I know, I know, but like, when you, when it was broken down in
- 1:19:25that whole thing, it's like, wow, I never thought of it that
- 1:19:29way and you just, you know, there goes my mind, you know,
- 1:19:33like, and stuff. Secondly, assuming there are
- 1:19:38infinite things in the universe with infinite properties like,
- 1:19:43All sort of materials in different forms, shapes amounts,
- 1:19:47velocities variation, than there will always be another thing
- 1:19:53which is quicker than something like there is no limit to what
- 1:19:58can exist in this universe. Let's let's put it like this.
- 1:20:03Imagine Imagine fire that can be molded as if it were a solid
- 1:20:12structure somewhere in the universe.
- 1:20:14Just because of probability that that is happening like just
- 1:20:18because something like that is never able to exist that
- 1:20:21exposed. I mean, the elements already
- 1:20:22exist to have, I mean fired. That's I mean you combine
- 1:20:26certain elements, you've got, you know, magma you've got lava.
- 1:20:30I mean you like literal Things that make up fire to combine
- 1:20:35with other elements, make up solid matter, right?
- 1:20:38What I'm saying is if infinite things are inevitable, then
- 1:20:42there will always be another thing to the periodic table that
- 1:20:45we can add. There will always be another
- 1:20:46element somewhere. Yeah, it doesn't end.
- 1:20:50And here's another weird thing to think about, when does it
- 1:20:53end? It doesn't in that same respect
- 1:20:57quarks, cannot be. The thing that will that matter,
- 1:20:59there are infinite things that build up a single atom.
- 1:21:02Mmm. They just sort of fold in on
- 1:21:04each other because if there's infinite probability, there's
- 1:21:06always probability that there's something that's smaller than
- 1:21:09that. Hmm, with this being said, just
- 1:21:13going along the metaphor of the speed of light that we're
- 1:21:15talking about there will always be a sort of energy, or maybe
- 1:21:18even a substance that can travel quicker than the speed of light.
- 1:21:21And there will always be something that will travel
- 1:21:23faster than that substance. And so on forever, It's all the
- 1:21:27sort of one weird like fractal esque thing that carries people
- 1:21:32to hire something more. Well on next week's podcast,
- 1:21:38we're going to have Neil deGrasse Tyson talk to why
- 1:21:41Coverdale about all of this shit now.
- 1:21:44I can't wait to imagine that's fun stuff man this is this is
- 1:21:51phenomenal. And I you know for the sake of
- 1:21:55just time and everything I think we're gonna probably put this,
- 1:22:00put a cap on this one and let her let everybody who's listen
- 1:22:03and watch up to this point just kind of Digest.
- 1:22:06All in and think about it, but definitely random a little bit
- 1:22:10even but most definitely a random ramblings of all kinds of
- 1:22:14stuff from from Wyatt Coverdale, and and then, and think so why
- 1:22:19you have a YouTube channel, I'll let people know that a, if you
- 1:22:24guys want to just kind of get into why it's brain a little
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- 1:22:34you know, Cadence that he does it.
- 1:22:36There's more like this out over there on his channel.
- 1:22:40I'm sure my right. Yeah, majority of actually, I
- 1:22:44posted a live stream. It's all about what we're
- 1:22:46talking about right now. Just all right.
- 1:22:49Yeah, so cool man. If you guys are subscribing to
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- 1:23:00you know, the conversation of it all and share your thoughts on
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- 1:23:07or show notes of this podcast for, you know, why it's Channel.
- 1:23:13But yeah, before I go white, don't go anywhere because I'm
- 1:23:15going to have you stick around with me, just for a couple
- 1:23:18minutes. But for everybody else, that's
- 1:23:19hear anything else that you want to let the people know before I
- 1:23:23wrap this up. Yes, actually there's something
- 1:23:27so following that analogy of if there is a piece of matter, It
- 1:23:33is always inevitable that if you draw a line between that and
- 1:23:35another piece of matter and will always connect to another piece
- 1:23:37of matter and that happens infinitely, even if the distance
- 1:23:40between them is infinite. Well that now let's apply that
- 1:23:44to awareness. Let's say if you die in this
- 1:23:48universe, Or if you die within this Carnation of yourself,
- 1:23:53there will always be a chance that actually the room even be a
- 1:23:58chance. It's literally an inevitability
- 1:24:00servings all infinite. Let's say that your life is a
- 1:24:03piece of matter and when that ends one is, the line is drawn
- 1:24:07and eventually it will hit another line.
- 1:24:10In other words, infinite reincarnation is sort of
- 1:24:13inevitable, assuming everything is infinite So within my
- 1:24:19philosophy, reincarnation is sort of the only answer to what
- 1:24:23could happen after death. I just want to leave you with
- 1:24:25that. So have have fun like taking
- 1:24:27that together in your existential brains.
- 1:24:31We continue to exist in some form or fashion.
- 1:24:34Yes, I'm quite like that. Hello, what I'm saying is you
- 1:24:40will quite literally come back like also that but which part of
- 1:24:44you will come back though. That's the question you as you
- 1:24:47are you as something else somewhere in the universe,
- 1:24:51assuming all of this is inevitable both within space and
- 1:24:54time, there are infinite versions of lost across all of
- 1:24:57space and across. Okay?
- 1:24:59Having a well, now we're starting to and I'm going to
- 1:25:01wrap this up now because if not we're going to just get into
- 1:25:03some wild things. Now it sounds like I'm in a Rick
- 1:25:06and Morty. Episode listen here more T,
- 1:25:08you're going to get it, there's an infinite versions of
- 1:25:10yourself, Morty. Well, you're really good.
- 1:25:15Geez, Rick well, there you go. The future, the future,
- 1:25:21incantation, or the future. Incarnation of the random even
- 1:25:24ramblas podcast is going to be me as Rick and Wyatt as as Morty
- 1:25:29and it's going to be the Rick and Morty ramblings podcast.
- 1:25:32So there you go, I have natural, there you go.
- 1:25:37All right. Don't go anywhere for everybody
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- 1:25:45in the show notes and down in the description of this video.
- 1:25:50Really appreciate you being here today tonight, white and talking
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