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Prisco, Boselli review victory over Baltimore | Jaguars Happy Hour | Monday, November 28 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Dictory Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars at the Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy who could care less about a squid kick,
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shad Rick. It's all good in the end. Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: It's victory Monday, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour. And we've
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  Speaker 1: got a busy two hours ahead. Of course, Frisco and
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  Speaker 1: BISSELLI react to the Jaguars win over the Ravens. The
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars rally twice in the fourth quarter to get it done,
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  Speaker 1: and the knockoff a very good football team in the process.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty of fanatics, fan questions. In the second hour,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: to get to reacting to this one today. And we
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  Speaker 1: start with head coach Doug Peterson. And after that win yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: he said, it's all in that locker room. Besides the excitement,
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  Speaker 1: the guys, the guys believe, right, I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that I see is that
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  Speaker 1: they believe in themselves. They believe in his team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and amongst all the excitement that that's what it
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  Speaker 1: that's what it means more to me, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: these guys, but very excited electric um. You know, these
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  Speaker 1: guys really deserve this one. Trevor Lawrence after the game.
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  Speaker 1: On the two point situation, there was a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: more going on than just deciding to go forward or not.
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  Speaker 1: They ruled a touchdown, but we didn't know if they
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  Speaker 1: were going to overturn it or not. So we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about our two point play, possibly talking about maybe
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  Speaker 1: kicking the p a t. And then we're also talking
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  Speaker 1: about if we didn't get it, what are our next
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  Speaker 1: plays at the end zone because we really had I
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  Speaker 1: think fourteen seconds left. Um, So it's like a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on. And then they said we got it, and
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  Speaker 1: coach looked at me that if we're going for too
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I wasn't sure before that what we
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  Speaker 1: were gonna do. And just that trust that he has
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  Speaker 1: in us, and like I said, you know, we've been
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  Speaker 1: that's a situation a lot and haven't always got it done.
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  Speaker 1: And just for him to keep trusting us, keep trusting
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  Speaker 1: me in our offense, it was it was big for us.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the defensive side, Fat Kain, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: linebacker after the game, after a career high eighteen tackles.
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  Speaker 1: What a performance. Yeah, I was tired. Now the ball
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  Speaker 1: is there, you know if I'm if I read it
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  Speaker 1: right and get to the ball. That's that's why I
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  Speaker 1: do for my team. Um, you know, all the way
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  Speaker 1: throughout the game, wherever I'm supposed to be doing what
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it. I mean, we selling flashes
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  Speaker 1: all year. We gotta keep putting together. I think when
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  Speaker 1: we start stacking the performances, finishing games the right way,
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  Speaker 1: that's when we'll show that we're growing up. But you
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  Speaker 1: got to start from somewhere, and it was a good,
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  Speaker 1: good opportunity for us to keep going on for that.
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  Speaker 1: There you have it. All the sound from the locker
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  Speaker 1: room available on Jaguars dot Com Jaguars social media from
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  Speaker 1: after the game. Doug Peterson spoke earlier this afternoon as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday. That means it's time for Pete Prisco Town
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  Speaker 1: in South Florida and Tony Vaselli, who is in parts
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  Speaker 1: unknown but apparently still has a pulse somehow. After the
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  Speaker 1: video came out of the call at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game. It's amazing that Pete, that Tony is still alive.
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  Speaker 1: I was worried about that he has a tongue because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't use it, didn't say anything, but did they score? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, that that's not true if you listen
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  Speaker 1: to the broadcast, I spoke. But the situation was Number one,
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to let the if if you ever listened
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  Speaker 1: to good radio, you're supposed to let the play by
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  Speaker 1: play guy finished. JP will tell you that as a
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  Speaker 1: play by play guy, you let them finish, because the
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  Speaker 1: last thing you want to do in a big call
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  Speaker 1: is have a But the analysts talking over the play
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  Speaker 1: by play guy doesn't sound good. Secondly, I was not
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  Speaker 1: sure he was in. It was a bang bang play,
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  Speaker 1: so I was trying to see what the officials were
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  Speaker 1: gonna do and kind of what the reaction was. And
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  Speaker 1: then if you listen to the broadcast, I talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: That's my job. When I saw talk about it, so
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  Speaker 1: on and so forth. If there's no emotion, you didn't move,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't react, you did nothing, You just sat there.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've been there before, Pete. Well they haven't
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  Speaker 1: been there before since what two thousand? I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: come on, what was a hundred? How many games? In
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  Speaker 1: a row. Wasn't a hundred eighty two or whatever? They
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been there before. Yeah, you it was amazing. First off,
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  Speaker 1: I've known Frank Frengie for thirty five years and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think you would make it till today. What was
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  Speaker 1: he he was It's like the veins were popping out
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  Speaker 1: of his head. I didn't think he was gonna make it.
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  Speaker 1: He was. He was bumped. It was a big moment.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. It was I mean, who cares about
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  Speaker 1: the call? What was what the best part of that
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  Speaker 1: whole thing was is I'm listening. Winning is all that
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  Speaker 1: matters in the NFL. And you know that, Pete. But
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  Speaker 1: I also think whether you want to call the cherry
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  Speaker 1: on the top, but I think it's equally as important
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  Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence did and what he's done since that
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  Speaker 1: poor performance in in Denver. And you and I both
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  Speaker 1: have said on this show since the againning, we were
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  Speaker 1: confident he was the guy. There was a lot of talk,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is he I don't know, people call it
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  Speaker 1: set a bus, but is he just average? He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. They were down on him even
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  Speaker 1: early in the year when they had that losing streak
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of, you know, you know, hit a
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  Speaker 1: high point in Apex, you know, after the Denver game.
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  Speaker 1: And I and I've been consistent. You've been consistent. Pete.
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  Speaker 1: We've said all along, he will be great. He will
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  Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. He will lead this team to championships.
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt in my mind about that. I
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  Speaker 1: even feel more confident with Doug Peterson as the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Not that this team doesn't have holes, not that this
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  Speaker 1: team doesn't need to get better and need, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to address things throughout you know, the offseason, everything else.
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  Speaker 1: But what was exciting for me is I've been watching.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching, and it's happening right in front of us.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is becoming one of the best quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: this league. He is growing up. I'm not saying he's
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  Speaker 1: top five. I'm not saying he's Joe Burrow or Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady or whoever at this point. But he is talented.
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  Speaker 1: He's tough, he has a big arm, he's athletic, he
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  Speaker 1: is you know, fearless in the pocket. He's a competitor.
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  Speaker 1: It's important to him, and you're starting to see results
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  Speaker 1: I mean he made throws that were big time in
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  Speaker 1: the face of pressure, you know, from the rush, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big moments where it's do or die. And I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I loved and I loved his emotion after the game
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  Speaker 1: and during it. I mean there's fire in that belly.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone who questions Trevor Lawrence is will to win, just
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  Speaker 1: go turn on the tape and watch yesterday, because we
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  Speaker 1: said it last week on the show. I said it
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  Speaker 1: all week locally. If they were gonna win this game,
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had to have a big day. They were
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  Speaker 1: not gonna run the ball against that Ravens defense. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: has going into that game. They had given up add
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight yards and three games. They are dominant with
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  Speaker 1: the addition to Rokan Smith, with Patrick Queen in that front,
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  Speaker 1: they are tough. And I don't care if Travis and
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  Speaker 1: at N would have been healthy the whole game. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't running the ball consistently. They had to throw to win.
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  Speaker 1: They had to throw the open things up and the
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  Speaker 1: pressure was on Trevor Lawrence and he delivered in a
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  Speaker 1: big way. Three under plush yards, three touches, no interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, big time throws and tight windows. I loved
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  Speaker 1: it and that was that was as exciting to me
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  Speaker 1: as the win was. You know what, Tony, that each
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  Speaker 1: each quarterback has a moment or a game in their
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  Speaker 1: career where you can sit back and you go, they've arrived.
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  Speaker 1: This was it, This is it. This is the moment
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  Speaker 1: for him, this is he's now a franchise quarterback. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: who had doubts about it before, and we didn't, You're right,
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  Speaker 1: neither one of us did. There's those are gone. This
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  Speaker 1: was the moment. And the throw of the moment is
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  Speaker 1: the fourth down throw? The fourth down throw? Was it
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  Speaker 1: to Zay Jones? Is that what Marvin Marvin Jones? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: I mean wow. Those are the moments where you look
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  Speaker 1: back in his career fIF teen ten years from now
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  Speaker 1: and you go, that's when he arrived right there, right
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  Speaker 1: there and there. And by the way, he is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a star of stars franchise, the franchise, And
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  Speaker 1: if you're a fan out there and you know all
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  Speaker 1: the season tickets, you better get him because this team
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  Speaker 1: is moving in the right direction and they have that guy.
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  Speaker 1: And when you solve that position, not only do you
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  Speaker 1: have success year, maybe one year or two years, you
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  Speaker 1: have sustainable success and that's where this franchise is going
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  Speaker 1: right now. Well and yeah, and you're right, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: make a big time fourth down throw earlier in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Is a Jones on that corner route just beautiful. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about the one on the last drive and was
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  Speaker 1: fourth and five. He has pressure right in his face,
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  Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell's like drilling him, and he like jumps up
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  Speaker 1: and delivers a strike to Marvin Jones. I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea how he stuck it in there, because it was
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  Speaker 1: great coverage and he put it the only place you
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  Speaker 1: could go after one on the side on this one
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  Speaker 1: on the side, after Christian courage, and then the next
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  Speaker 1: play you can converts the fourth and five. Yes, right here,
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  Speaker 1: look the balls out by Marmo. Jones hasn't even made
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  Speaker 1: his break yet, boom right on the number. And you
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  Speaker 1: know that's another thing too, Tony. You came out from
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  Speaker 1: being sacked. Yeah, you came out from under being sacked third.
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  Speaker 1: You know a lot of times in those her you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to win the game scenarios, you don't get out
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  Speaker 1: from underneath that. Well, I and Pete I loved it
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  Speaker 1: was third and twenty one, and we said it on
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  Speaker 1: the radio. And the mistake teams make all the time
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  Speaker 1: they try to get all twenty one yards back up
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  Speaker 1: in one play. I'm like, and I said that. I said, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you have two downs act I could second down, go
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  Speaker 1: get ten fifteen, make it fourth and manageable. And they
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  Speaker 1: did it. Christian Kirk sat down in front of the
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  Speaker 1: deep zone. It was a strike right on him. He turned,
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  Speaker 1: got a couple extra yards now all of a Sudd's
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  Speaker 1: fourth and five and he makes this throw. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was I loved every bit of it. It was
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  Speaker 1: a great football game. Um, it was entertaining. The defense.
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  Speaker 1: They have issues at times, but they don't win that
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  Speaker 1: game if the defense doesn't. You know, three, um, three
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  Speaker 1: of the first four few three of the first four
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  Speaker 1: field goals. So when it was they had twelve points,
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  Speaker 1: of those were deep red tight red zone stops. If
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  Speaker 1: they convert those to touchdown speed their first and goal
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  Speaker 1: inside the ten they get, they get nine points out
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  Speaker 1: of that three times. If that ends up being twenty
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  Speaker 1: one instead of nine, the game's over. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: never get a chance to do that, so you I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the defense has a lot to clean up. And there's
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  Speaker 1: some questionable things that we can talk about today but
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  Speaker 1: in the day right now, what they are and this
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  Speaker 1: is how they should play there at ben But don't break.
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  Speaker 1: They're not gonna be a dominant defense. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: the pass wrestlers to be dominant. They don't have the
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  Speaker 1: playmakers to be dominant. But what they do have is
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  Speaker 1: they have some smart football players. Alukan is one of
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  Speaker 1: the smartest football players. You watch him. He's in the
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  Speaker 1: right place, he gets that thing lined up. And they
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  Speaker 1: played good red zone defense and they did yesterday at least.
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  Speaker 1: And if they can do that, and you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a tough team to beat down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: Look it was. It's what they needed at this moment.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way you said it last week, they're
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  Speaker 1: still alive. I mean they're still alive, and they're playing
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  Speaker 1: for something and it's not gonna happen, but they're playing
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  Speaker 1: for something. They think about this Tennessee goes to Philly
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  Speaker 1: this week. That is an easy game. Winning that game.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, so you know why when we say that,
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  Speaker 1: will pull something out of his room like he always does.
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  Speaker 1: But again, that's not an easy game and next thing
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're in the mix if you win this
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  Speaker 1: week against Line. So it's it's there for them. But
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  Speaker 1: the best thing about it is, again we go back
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  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. This is the moment. This is it, folks,
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  Speaker 1: this is the moment for him to shut that everybody
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  Speaker 1: up because there's so many people out there that we're
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  Speaker 1: you're starting to hear around the league that Justin Fields
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  Speaker 1: is better than them. No he's not. That's ridiculous. This
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  Speaker 1: kid can make all the throws and Tony, you said it.
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  Speaker 1: He is tough. He's a tough kid. He's a tough
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  Speaker 1: minded kid too. Don't don't blink, now, Tony, I think
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  Speaker 1: I just heard Pete say they could run the table.
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  Speaker 1: I think I just heard they have a chance. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big difference from last week. But here's the here's
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  Speaker 1: the deal, and this is d NFL. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: they better like enjoy it today, get ready for Detroit
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  Speaker 1: because Detroit's a good football team and if you don't
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  Speaker 1: go win up there, this was all for not as
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  Speaker 1: far as the record, not what you learned from it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away. But as far as the record,
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  Speaker 1: but if you can find a way to win, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Titans will win. You're two games
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  Speaker 1: back and you play Tennessee up there, and if you
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  Speaker 1: go up there and beat Tennessee and our one game
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  Speaker 1: back with four to play, you're in it. You were
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  Speaker 1: in the hunt or the playoffs at that point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be a shootout in Detroit this week.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be points all over the I can't that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a fast track and a lot of passes
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  Speaker 1: fill in the air. It's gonna be fun to watch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good football game. Plenty more Ahead
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  Speaker 1: will come back in just a moment and get a
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  Speaker 1: little more into this defensive performance. Tony alluded to it there.
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  Speaker 1: The red zone defense early was huge. There was also
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  Speaker 1: a big play late that they gave up on the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown dry to give Baltimore the lead late in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. We'll get into all that coming up, of course,
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  Speaker 1: a little more into the offensive performance from yesterday to
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  Speaker 1: Michael Hasty stepped up in a big way obviously, Za
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  Speaker 1: Jones as well. In the second hour, your social media
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  Speaker 1: questions will go around the NFL. Plenty ahead. We're just
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  Speaker 1: this is a team win today offense, defense and special
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  Speaker 1: team help. Man, I guess a great football team, playoff
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  Speaker 1: caliber team that shows me, shows you right there that
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  Speaker 1: we're right there and we are right there with them.
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  Speaker 1: I needed one. I need to do ball, youre guys.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned to this man on Thursday of the Thursday
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  Speaker 1: Friday Friday Friday, I said, after after we win on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: it's victory. Well there you have it from the locker
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  Speaker 1: room after the game, and welcome back. It is victory
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  Speaker 1: Monday and it is Jaguar's Happy Hour. J. P. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: with Et Priscoe and Tony Basselli Jaguars over the Ravens seven.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Doug Peterson in the locker room with the
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  Speaker 1: team after the game. Players off today and tomorrow and
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  Speaker 1: let's take a little more into this defensive performance from
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and Tony, you touched on it just a little earlier,
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  Speaker 1: the red zone defense earlier in the game. It felt like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens just missed a couple of passes early.
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  Speaker 1: They could have blown this thing open early in the
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  Speaker 1: first quarter. Really, uh, they missed some of those. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: took advantage, kept him out of the end zone, held
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  Speaker 1: him to field goals, and got him to the point
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  Speaker 1: where they could find their way offensively. It was a
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  Speaker 1: slow start offensively with this team. They didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: ball a lot early in the game, but the defense
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  Speaker 1: kept this game alive in this yesterday, well they did,
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  Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson did not play very well yesterday. UM
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  Speaker 1: and We're fortunate early in the game that he did
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  Speaker 1: not because he missed a wide open uh Marcus Robinson
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  Speaker 1: that would have been a touchdown on the first drive.
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  Speaker 1: On the second drive, was a good defense on the
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  Speaker 1: on the third red zone, tight red zone, he missed
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  Speaker 1: a wide open Nick Boyle that would have been a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Um easy throws, throws that the quarterbacks in this league
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  Speaker 1: make on a regular basis. So we got we got
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  Speaker 1: a little bit lucky. But who cares. I mean, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you need breaks in this league to win. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to win in this league. So take nothing away from
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  Speaker 1: the Jags, but they were fortunate there. But they did
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  Speaker 1: what they did, guys, what they happened to doing. They
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  Speaker 1: took advantage of breaks when they were losing those close games.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: They took advantage of no breaks, and they were giving
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: teams multiple opportunities to go to beat them. In this situation,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: they had some bad plays Baltimore didn't capitalize, but then
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: they shut them down when they had to, and they
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: did play good defense, so give them a ton of credit.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It was an interesting day defensively. They had a bunch
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of different looks that they put in specifically for Baltimore.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: They had UM, they had fronts where they had three safeties,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: two corners, UM, and UH. And then they had another
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: look where they had three linebackers, one corner and two safeties.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, they did a bunch of different things trying
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to deal with Lamar Jackson. One thing that is clear,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: there's a new starting linebacker on this team. It's Chadmer.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He's better than he's better than Devin Lloyd right now.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched the tape, pete Um
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: movement was better. Devin Lloyd looked lost again in my
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: opinion today. But do you remember the one play where
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: a little kin's telling him come come this way, this
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: way because they shifted and he didn't move and he's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: waving at him, and and then there was a play
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: on the sideline we seem to let up again. Well,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't hope you saw that. Did you see it? Yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: he's slow to react. He was a couple of times
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: he was completely fooled going the wrong way on the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and here's here's one too on the on the one
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: long throw was at the touchdown, that's his guy, isn't
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it It wasn't It was after the long throw the touchdown.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Of the touchdown, that's his guy josh Our there in
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: man coverage. That's because if you look at a preestnap ray,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Shawn Jenkins is saying, you have him right, Yeah, because
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Muma goes with the back. He's got the back and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: man coverage there on the opposite side of each other.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: He's got the back. You can see it, and he didn't.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: He's he could see him trailing him the whole time. No,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: he went the wrong way if you watch it. But
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: then he tried and then he react that he said,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: oh it's way too late for that, and he couldn't
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, I mean so, I mean, Chad Muma
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: should be the story or the rest of the year. Now,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I think I'm with you, pe go
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: find some rush packages. Put his hand on the ground
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: because no one else can rust the pastor. I mean,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't win. Nobody won UM, and so you might
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: as well put put him out there see if he
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: can win UM. But Chad move was a better week
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: side linebacker than Devin Lloyd right now. It's just he is,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and and he chased down one play in the run game.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I think, so he showed he does have the speed,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: he just don't know how to line up and get
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to the spot he does. He doesn't know, am just
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: but if you can't line up, you can't play. I'm
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: with you, Tony, I wouldn't play. You know how many
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: times did you see a lou Khan telling movement where
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to line up, not what? And you know what? As
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a result of that, don't you think Louis Khan played better?
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I thought a little khm was howth standing. He made
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: some play. I mean it was the best he's played.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Forget about the tackle numbers. He put up eighteen tackles amazing,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: thirteen solo um two for a loss. But I was
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so impressed how he fall off blocks and made big tackles.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And he's hed a couple of open field tackles against
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jaxson that if he doesn't, they're much bigger plays. Um.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I thought a lu Khan was outstanding. He was the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: best defensive player on Sunday. And I think the guy
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: right behind I thought Hamilton's played good again. Hamilton played good.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I thought he played I thought Muma played well. Um.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I love Rayshon Jenkins. He is so physical, I mean,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he is such a good football player. In my opinion, Um,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I thought Cisco had a great pass breakup. He gets
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: better each week. Um the rush guys don't do don't
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: do anything. I mean, and that's not it. That was it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: McCarry was playing left tackles. That he was playing left tackle, Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that I mean. He's a he's a feisty talking guy.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: He's beat if you watched them when he came in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: for Ronnie when he played a bunch of for Ronnie
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Stanley earlier in the year. He's a good football player.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody's played guard, he's moved around, he's you know, he's Yes,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: he's a good football player. But you should be able
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to beat him. You should be able to beat him
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a future, no doubt about it. Um. I mean so yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the two first rounders,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you're not getting a lot of production out of the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: two first rounders this year right now. No, you're getting
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: limited snaps. What do you played? Thirty snaps or snaps?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think Lloyd played and the only reason he played
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: was because they were playing Lamar Jackson. If you're not
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: playing Lamar Jackson, he not on the field. I don't
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: think he. I don't think he plays next week in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: defense unless they put a special unless they put special
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: packages in the rush game for him. You know what
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: else bothered me too. This is just me and I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: don't know the kid, but this bothered me. He seemed
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: almost okay with being benched. I I can't speak to that. Well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I mean he said, oh yeah, like Doug said, this
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: might do me good to sit on the sideline and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: watch it. What what are you talking about? Who wants
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to be benched? I gotta learn my I gotta learn
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: my playbooks better. But I don't want to be benched.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sit out to sit and watch.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But movements better and when we will be the linebacker,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he's better. Um hey, uh while we're on defense, Well
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this is coming up. Um yeah, there's some good things
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: earlier in the game obviously third down, excuse me, red zone? Um,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But late in the game, fourth quarter, do Sean Jackson
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: gets sixty two yard pass? Play three? Hold on? Freeze
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it right here? Can you freeze this? Yes? Okay, if
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you go back a little bit. I don't know if
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you can if the people in there. I actually had
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: right here. So this is I saw this live and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything live because I was like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: did I see it right? And I confirmed this morning.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: They have one corner on the field, three linebackers, no
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: five linebackers if you count the two outside guys, three
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: down linemen in two safeties. You have Devin Lloyd out
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: there on Marcus Robinson. Now the Raven ends have three
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: tight ends, two receivers, no backs, second and twenty. Why
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: are you not, Nickel? Why do you have one corner
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: on the field and they run the race around and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you have you have Chad Movement chasing Sean Chappar playing
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Tampa two. Is that what that is? Is that why
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Chad movements in the middle? If it looks like Tampa too,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like they split this the safety split, it looks like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: what it is. I don't think it is because if
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it would have been Tampa two, then you'd had Cisco
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: getting depth. But I think Cisco, think Cisco, Cisco, look
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: at Cisco split their split safeties. Okay, so, but Cisco
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: jumps the up route where he shouldn't. That's right, That's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: exactly what it was. That to be Tampa two, he
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: should have been over the top movements in the middle
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of the field. You know, that Tampa two works. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: get that, But what my question is, why do you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: only have two corners? YEA, that I don't get. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: don't understand why you have one corner? I mean, does
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: does Cisco have more confidence not to jump that end roun?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: If it's not If it's not a it's not a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: linebacker sitting out there. And again we don't know his assignment,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but it sure looks like that's Tampa two and he's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: supposed to stay deep and outside. He doesn't, hey, hey,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: JP to Dunk say anything about this play in his
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: press conference, he did not say anything about this place specifically.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But I was told by somebody who would know that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Cisco should have been deep. Yeah, it's Tampa two and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: he he's responsible for it. But you're right, Tony, why
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: not have an extra corner on the field. I don't
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: understand in second and twenty, in the end the game situation,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: why you have three linebackers out there. I also don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like rushing three. Well, they had no backs. They're not
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: look at the look at the look at the rush. Am,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. They rushed three and only three ways. Yes,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they only rush three. Ye that I didn't like that either,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and then when I first saw it, so it's Tampa
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Twomma's drop into the deep middle. Cisco is supposed to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: stay on the outside. He jumps that route and therefore
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you got you got him covering over the top of it,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and you can't get over that side. So that's it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a mistake by Cisco. It's not a good defense, and
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't just rush three. So all in all, they
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: all messed up. Yeah, I guess I'm not against rushing three.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know. You're right. If
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Cisco plays deep, it's probably not an issue. Um I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It just bewilders me why you have three linebackers out
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: there in one corner and in in in second in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: twenty right, if it's third and eight or second and
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it's you understand that with him the way he plays quarterback,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I get it too. But even then, I'll argue this
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: all day long. Put Dewey Winger it out there instead
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of evn Lloyde. He's a better football player than Devin Lloyd.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Right now, Well, who is who is the So you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: had two safeties, you had the two safeties and the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: three linebackers in one corner, you had Tyson Campbell. That's it. Yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's doing it bad. They got caught in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a bad defense. Would I didn't play it, well, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: would put Dubie out there. I watched every snap this morning,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they got anything out of Devin
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Lloyd being in the field. He made one play, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: do we wingers better player? And by the way, on
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the goal line on the was it the two point
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: play where they scored, no Lloyd, which is the one
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: where the kid could look like he was stopped and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he fell into the end zone. Lloyd's gotta Lloyd's gotta
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: blast him and make that play. Yeah, because was it
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Hamiltons who kind of held him up a little bit,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And He's got to come in and blast them. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Cisco tried at least come in late, but it was
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: too late at that point. Yeah, he missed them. Yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: not good. I mean now we know why they drafted
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Chad Muma, that evil grinch laugh again. Well, I mean
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you that was telling me Lloyd. I think it was
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: talking that Lloyd did not play off the It was
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not an off the ball linebacker, and he thought he
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: was a rush guy. He played a lot of rush. Yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he was a rush guy. Way he played off the ball.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Somebody rushed a lot at Utah. That's why I said
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: last week, let him rush. But he wasn't. He wasn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a big coverage guy at Utah. Oh. And that was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the knock on him to Tony was that he wasn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: good in coverage. But but okay, if you can go forward,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you have that speed, why not put put him with
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: put him in some situations he puts his hand on
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the ground and goes Yeah. By no means of my
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: giving up on Devin Lloyd, I'm just saying he's not
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: playing either. He's not playing good football right now, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I think you've got to find what he can do
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: well and slow the dang game down for the kid,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: because right now, his head is swimming. He can't line up,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know his assignment. He's reacting slow, he's he's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: getting fooled by misdirection. He's going the wrong way at times.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Like the kids athletic. He's strong, he's I think he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good football player, but I think he
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to put him in a situation to like make it simple,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like go get the quarterback I'll give you an example
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: before I gotta go to break JP. Jaman Davis from
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Washington had all kinds of problems last year, the exact
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: same stuff this year. He's a really good football player
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: because they've they've adjusted him and he's learned the game.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: One more thing, I know we'll talking about this coming back.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: We gotta talk about the number one pick because this
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: week they played the number two pick, and and Trayvon
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Walker doesn't do a lot. Let's be real. He's a big,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: physical player who doesn't do a lot. That's coming up shortly.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: We'll get into the offense a little deeper when we return,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: as well as A Jones had a career day, Marvin
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Jones was some big catchers. Jamichael Hasty stepped in and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: played well. And it's time to deck the halls, dude,
• 28:48
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• 28:51
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• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, we gotta think players,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: not plays. You know, they wanted to go for two.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It wasn't my decision that players were like let's go,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you know, And and um, I got a lot of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: faith and trust in them and just a well executed
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: place to play. We've had in our game plan pretty
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: much every week and and um we were able to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: pull it out great. You know, Trevor today was you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: as lights out. He played extremely well. That throw that
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: catch um for the two point was was a thing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of beauty. And um, you know, I think it's a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: football team too, you know, a win like this just
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you know, um kind of kind of heads us in
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the right direction. That's the head coach of course, Stug
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Peterson app of the game yesterday on the two point
• 30:02
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• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a little later that the step coaching staff did talk
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: about that earlier on the headsets, and then of course
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: when it came down to that moment, the players were
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: all in for it. As well, but either way it
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: worked out. Jaguars are always going to be all that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Give me a break. What what did you like? Did
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: you like the call or not for that team? I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: like the call. For the Chargers. I didn't like the call.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And here's why. I mean, this team is trying to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: get to something. The Chargers are in the playoff race,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: so yes, I like the call in that situation for them,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you know. And and remember what was the year at
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Tampa you guys went for two to win the game.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: We didn't get it. No, but and I argue with
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Coughlin that I wouldn't have done that. But now looking
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: back on it, where your team was, it was probably
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the right decision to go for the two. Um. But
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I you know, if you're a good team and you're
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and you're in the playoff race or something, no you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: don't go for it. In that situation. I didn't mind
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it at all. Let me tell you why I and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I said this on the air. Why I liked it
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: is because if you look at the teams, the Ravens
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have a better kicker and so if you're if it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: gonna come in, so it's a coin toss um. You know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: whether you get the ball first or not, if you know, regardless,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you know, assuming that the first drive is in a touchdown,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: which there's always a chance of that, it's gonna come
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: down to a field field goal kicking game and the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: short the field if if the Ravens either win the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: whether they win the toss or not, it's a pretty
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: short field if they get the ball to go score
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: because you know, anything inside sixty is a very high
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: percentage make for Justin Tucker. And so based on the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know who, you know, the makeup of the teams
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and what they have with Justin Tucker, I thought it
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: was the highest personage players to go for it and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: trying to win it right there. Plus you had the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: field go back and forth in the fourth quarter, so
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like they weren't scoring. So yeah, and to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: your to your point exactly, there was reasons to go
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: for it in that scenario. So I had no problem
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: with it. Now here's the other thing. A lot of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: people would have had a different feel if they don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: get it coming out of that game. Me, I wouldn't have.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I said it before and I said I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like the call, Yeah, because not just because I would
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: have criticized him for going for it. But your quarterback
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: did what he did getting that that's a win. You
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: get the gravy. That's nice. But you you did what
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: you did. They hadn't done that before. That was the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: amazing thing about it. So no, I I like the call.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: There were calls in that game I didn't like. I'll
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, but it always is. For example,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: third and one and fourth and one, I didn't like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: either one of them. Why are you bunching up like
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that to run the ball in the middle of the line.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: You had on the one play there were eleven ravens
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: in the picture? Did you he had Tony When they
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: go to the A twenty two? There were eleven guys there?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? And he didn't get it, By
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the way, he didn't get it because they were about
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: twelve guys there. And on the third down run they tried,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is that the one where they tried to pull sheriff
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and get the trap and kick him out and they
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: get just got engulf or no no gain. I didn't
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: like that call either. So those are two I didn't like.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Was the third down on
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the goal line where they rolled him out again and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: he had nobody was that third down? They settled for
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a field goal. He threw away. At least he threw
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: it away. This time he threw it away. But why
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: do you cut They scored in the next play? Yeah
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: they did. They kicked the field goal, Yes they did.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: It was third down. He threw it over his head
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to the back of the end. It was. It was.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It was the second down play. Look and c JP,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I'm possible. What part of the game was that? Remember
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: after the fumble recovery, wasn't it? No, No, after the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: bumble recovery, they never got to the tight red zone. Um,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a third down play.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong either way. I mean, it worked out right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, how about why you don't need to cut
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the field He showed them the two point play. You
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: don't need to cut the field and half with him anymore.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: He can stand back there and make the plays. You
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: cut the field in half when a guy's learning you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: had to play football in a lot of times, he
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: don't need that. Let him throw. He doesn't need to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: cut the field half all the time. You limit what
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: he can do. Those two guys recovered. He had no
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: options in that play, nothing, And that hasn't worked out
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: this year, has it. The little boots to the right,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they haven't worked out very well at all. In fact,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: if you went back and looked at all the plays
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and over the course of the season and said what
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: play has been the most damaging to them, the boots
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: to the right have been well. Some of those weren't
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: really designed to be full boots to the right, like
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the one in London. He should have got rid of
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: quick or thrown away, and he decided to roll, keep
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: rolling to the right. And that wasn't the design. So
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I think that was a design. It was he It
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: was one option and he decided to keep rolling. It
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was one option. Throw if it's not there, throw it away.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: That was the design of the play. Pete. He's still
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it's still as still a boot to the right where
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: he's got to make a throw, and it hadn't. That's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: been the most damning play for them all year long.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And it made it worse because he continued to go
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and throw it in the traffic. But that's I'm with you.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: At least he at least he threw the ball away
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: this time. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He threw another
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: one on that play, just he doesn't need that anymore.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: How about the two point play itself, and we heard
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the sound there coming back of the decision and the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: mindset and everything that goes with it. But the fast
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: ball that he threw on that on that route and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the catch on the back end by Za Jones, who
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: had a career day by the way, and this just
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: caps it off. Rear high targets, completions, a reception excuse me,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and receiving yards for Za Jones, and he was all
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: over the place. You know what that that throw didn't
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: get to do it deserves because that thing was on
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: him in a hurry. Yes it was. I mean that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that's big boy boom, accurate, right on his hands. I mean,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that's a great throw. And then to be able to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: reel it in on the back end by j as well,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's some heat. Now that's a finally,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you know, this is um. This is an offense where
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you will have Christian Kirk will have a big day,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty yards whatever, a couple of weeks
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: in a row, and then they'll hit the um. You know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the kick returner for a couple of touchdowns in a game,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, here comes a Jones
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: with a huge day at the office. It's a different
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: guy almost every time out. Well, and just like next
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: year when they get Ridley, I mean they're gonna have
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have one heck of an offense next year.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: When you agree, yes, do we lose? JP, Tony, I'm here,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: we got you, we got you both. Yeah, I mean,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: yeah they should be. I mean, we've got six more
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: games this year, Pete, don't put the cart before the horse.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Let's go. We got But I'm always looking at a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: big picture though, JP. Yeah, look big picture. I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you get Ridley back, and and by the way, Tony,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I don't. We'll talk about this a little bit, I'm sure.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: But the offensive line was good and past protection on
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: very good past protection. The run blocking was crappy, but
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the and and Fortner had some problems in past protection.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But the really good and past protection though, is as
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a unit they were that was outstanding. Now, Baltimore is
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: not a great pass rushing team. From the edge, Well,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Justin Houston has been getting after people beat Yeah, yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he has Calias. Callias had some some stuff late in
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the game. Yesterday he was back there active class. I'll
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: tell you what is can still play for. I mean
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: he can't do it for the long haul like he
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: used to be able to, but he could still get
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: after it a JP. I gotta ask you, what's the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: injury update on E. T N. I mean, you know
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: they said after the game it wasn't a big deal,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but it's the same foot that's concerning the same foot.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson talked about that today. He called it officially
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a foot sprain. It's not the same injury. It is
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the same foot, but you know there's there's no walking
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: boot or any of that stuff, so they're they're pretty
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: confident in him moving ahead. It was more I think,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: above the shoulders thinking about it than the actual foot itself.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: So that's the way Doug made it seem today in
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: his press conference. So it was third down play, third
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: and three from the three yard line when they rolled
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: out to the right and didn't get it right and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: they settled for a field goal. Yeah, you were right.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like that play. It was near the end
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of the half. Yeah, I didn't like that play. Let's
• 38:55
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• 38:58
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• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and Tony Boselli. Let's take a look around the a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: f C South and where the Dolphins had a huge
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: lead on the Texans. They pulled some starters late in
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the game. Texans got some late points for thirty to fifteen.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Dolphins a winner over Houston. The Bengals and the Titans.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: What a game this was. The Bengals took the lead
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: for good in the fourth quarter. Joe surveys the defense
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: too deep safeties for Tennessee. Joe catches the shotgun, snaff
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: fakes the p rod, floats it towards the end zone,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and Higgins He's got it down goals as he used
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: his height and his size and went up and over
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the cornerback in coverage for the touchdown. I gave him
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the lead for good. Dan Horne and Dave Lapham on
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPNIFT thirty and the Bengals Radio Network. Bengals over
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the Titans twenty to sixteen, and Pete, you referenced it earlier.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Now it's all of a sudden, the three game leading
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the division, the Titans over, of course, the Indian then
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars three games back was six to go. By
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the way, did you see how excited Dave Lapham got
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: on the touch days A former offensive lineman, he's in
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the booth, he gets excited when his team scores. Tony,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: maybe you should go take some lessons from Dave la
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: pet I'm very happy with my style. Well, plus, you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: look like if you said something the Loghman was going
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to give you an elbower. I mean, Francie was having
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: his convulsions or whatever he was having, and then lock
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Himan jumped in, and then you were just sitting there,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and you'll the best part about it is y'all like
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: me Cansey, you have to have readers to read the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Uh that's true. Um, I was more concerned. I was
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: very calm because I thought I might have to give
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Frangie CPR at any moment. No, JP, They're look, they're
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: not making a run to the playoffs. Okay, I mean,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: come on, Pete, there's a chance. You said there's a
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: chance you at least came off the fact that this
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: is Otherwise it wasn't possible. This is progress with Pete.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: It's actually possible that last week Titans games, so he
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: thinks they're gonna be in the postseason. I think I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: only locked one. I said they'd win one or two,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and I locked that. I think you locked both of them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: There's so many locks and unlocks. I can't remember, but
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I think I remember that. You know him doing both
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: at one point. But it's too bad they're not in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the NFC South. Yeah kidding, right, Well, I mean I'm
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: telling you. I mean I'm not I'm not saying they're
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs, but means But I'll say this,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: if you go win Sunday, it gets you. You are playing.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: And this is what I said at the beginning of
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the year. The goal should be playing meaningful football games
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: in December. If you beat the Lions on Sunday, that
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: game in in Nashville will be meaningful. If they beat
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Lions on Sunday and the Eagles beat the Titans
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, it's really meaningful. Well, you can't control the Titans,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying you're right. I agree with that,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: and I started the show with that. Regardless of what
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: happens with the Titans, if you beat Detroit and you
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: are five and seven, and you're going into Nashville against
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: your division rival, and if you can beat them and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: get the six and seven, you either close it to
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a one game spread or two games spread with four
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to go, and you get to play them. Agin it's meaningful.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: That game means something. And guess what the ding stuff
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: for this fan base and for this team. If you
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: win in Detroit, guess what you now play Dallas at
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: home in a very meaningful game. It's it's it's it
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: would be amazing. But nobody thought you guys in ninety
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: six would make the playoffs. Nobody. I mean, it's it's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: fluke things happened in this league. If you and I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: were doing a show back in ninety six, it would
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: have laughed. You would have been like, they're four and seven,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: there's no chance it's over. You know, developed developed, you know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: play kids, play the kids, play the kids. No, you're right,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you're right. Nobody would have believed that. So yeah, I mean, yes,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: is it possible, But the schedules brutal. Though you gotta
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: admit this schedule is brutal. No one had them winning
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: beating Baltimore Sunday, No not. When is the schedule now
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's Detroit, which is now a tougher game.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You thought it was going to team Yeah, then then
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: then Tennessee, then then Dallas then uh and then it
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: is the Jets Thursday, and then it's the Texans and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: then it's at home against the Titans. Now, if you
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: can navigate the next four weeks and get three and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: one out of that, then I think you can start
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: talking about it a little bit. There is one more
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: game in the division. It's Monday Night Football and a
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: battle of losing teams. Tonight, the Pittsburgh Steelers at three
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and seven visit the four six and one Indianapolis Colts.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Who you got it Lucas Oil Stadium to night. Well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the offensive line was better last week for the Colts,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: so this week it'll be back to being what it
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: usually is. With t J. Watton the game, I'm gonna
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: take the Steelers. I think the Steelers are gonna it's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be a low scoring, boring, ugly game. I'm gonna
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: take the Steelers in that one. I don't think they're
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: gonna win the game, but they'll hang around it. It'll
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: be closed. I think it's a one, one or two
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: point game. I don't think it's I don't think it's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: gonna get away from anybody. I alright, easy enough, there
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you have it. Way to sell the game tonight. What's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the power rankings for the division? You didn't do it?
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Let's take a look at the division.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, the Jaguars are in third place, Tennessee seven
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and four, Indie, Jacksonville, Houston. Who you got? I mean,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think is gonna put if after tonight you put
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville ahead of the Colts, right, I'll go Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Houston.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. Indianapolis isn't dead either, No, they are not. Alright, guys,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that's the end of our number one. We've got another
• 46:44
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• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Of course, we'll keep it real here in a little bit.
• 46:49
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• 46:52
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• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Everybody in our division is chasing Tennessee. You know, it's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: good football team. Coach Rabel hasn't played well. Cincinnati had
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a good game plan yesterday beat him. But you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: it's a that's a it's a good football team. But
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: we know what's ahead of us. We've got some really
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: good teams, you know, on our schedule ahead of us
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that are all playoff caliber teams that you know, in
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: order for us to be there at the end, we've
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you know, we've just got to continue to prepare, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the way we've done that and you know it's this
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is the next one, you know, Detroit this week, and um,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: we'll worry about Tennessee you know, next week and move
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: on from there. But it's it's all part of that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: part of that plan. That's the head coach Doug Peterson
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: earlier today and welcome back. It's our number two of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on victory Monday, j P. Shadrick with
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli and of course, the Jaguars
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: won a wild win over the Ravens seven. The game
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: featured eight lead changes, Three of those came in the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The Jaguars had a rally twice to take
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter leads, including the go ahead two point conversion
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: with just fourteen seconds left to play. That was after
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: a touchdown from Lawrence to Marvin Jones Jr. A ten
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: yards score that was reviewed, and then the place stood.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, the deciding drive with seventy five yards in
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: ten plays and took a minute forty eight off the
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: game clock. They, of course, the Jaguars went for two
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and got it, and then a sixty seven yard field
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: goal attempt from Justin Tucker a few yards short. It
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: would have been the longest field goal made in NFL history.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had a career high rating in yesterday's games,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a Jones career highs and targets, catches and yards Folk
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and the linebacker had eight team tackles, also a career high.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Chad Movement played every snap of the game on defense.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: That could be the case moving ahead as well. The
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Jags are now forward seven and with the Titans lost
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to the Bengals, the Jags only three back of Tennessee
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: was six games to go, including two head to head
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: meetings with the Titans. You heard Doug talk about it there,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that about covers that I think Jackson. Pretty good mood
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: today around here in this building. I'll say that, um,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you know, going into Detroit next week. Yeah, you know.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I like the idea that a staff isn't caught up
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and where a guy was drafted. And you've been around
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: a league a long time, Tony, You've seen it play
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: out where teams are defiant almost at times to the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: guy who was drafted higher should stays in the lineup
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a little longer than he should. And this staff used
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the bye week to change that. And I gotta give
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: him credit for that because I think I think you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: play the best player. I don't care where he came from.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of good guys wouldn't bench, right, Tony,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: A lot of guys wouldn't bench that first round pick
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: in the in the first year of his of his uh,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: of his career. Well, that's what the good coaching coaching staff.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And I think Doug Peterson has a good staff. I
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: think he's a hell of a head coach. I think
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: he's a great play play caller. And uh, I think
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he's been consistent. I mean he's I mean he has
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: about one one thing only and that's building this thing
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: back the right way. Right culture and windy football games,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna put the players out there that give
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: them an opportunity to do that. So I'm with you, Pete.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I applaud them. They going back to the press conference
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: j J P who asked him about Tennessee Titans. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: believe it was Gary Smit's today the question. The question
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was this, Tony, and it wasn't specifically about Tennessee. The
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: question was something to the effect of, hey, you you
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: talk about all these things out in front of you.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It's as three game lead, like we've talked about two
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: games against Tennessee. Is that what you're referring to? Is
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: that whole situation? That was the tone of the question,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: at least specifically about the Titans are coming up in
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I don't care. If I had asked Coffling that question
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: when he was a oh, he would have read me quote, oh, oh,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: tennesse See. We played Detroit just week tennis See, are
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you really gonna go there? That's exactly what it would
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: have been. Pretty good, Yeah, pretty good, It's pretty close.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You would know you got that A few times. You
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: start about St. Jones, What a great game. And I've
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: been high on Za since training camp watching him, Um,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: he now has fifty eight catches on the year, he's
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: on pace for eighty nine catches, and Kirkk's on pace
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: for you know, mid the high nineties. If they if
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: those two stay on track, on pace and what they're
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: doing so far, and I actually think their numbers are
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: only gonna get better because the better Trevor plays and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the more that they trust him to throw it around
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: yard like they did, and especially if Travis e t
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: n is not, that ball is going to be in
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the air more. And you could have two guys on
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: this roster that have north of ady catches at the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: end of the year, which is pretty impressive for two
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: receivers that when they were signed here a lot of
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: people open their eyes and said, what the hell are
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: they doing? Yeah, I mean, and now I think you
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: throw Ridley into the equation next year. Next year you've
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: got three, You've got three that can make a lot
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: of plays. Well, I'm still I'm hopeful with Ridley Pete,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: but I still don't know very many guys that take
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: two years off the game of football come back and
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: are what they were when they left. That's true, I mean,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: it's there's questions about it. But if he is, oh,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it's great, it's huge. You know. Here's the other thing
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: about yesterday too. This I was thinking about this when
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I was watching the game. Josh Oliver would be a
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: nice in the Jaguars uniform. I knew that was coming
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: up at some point. Man. That was a that's a
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: mistake on their part, there's no I mean, and I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: get it. He was a little injury plagued early in
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: his career. But they gave up on him, and they
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have, particularly when you don't have anything at that position.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: He's every bit as good as every tight end they have.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: We're close to it. Yeah, he blocks a little bit too.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: He's not a terrible blocker. No, they gave up on him,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: and they just and he's good for Josh Oliver, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: give him credit. He went to Baltimore. He's making a
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: career and he's uh, he's a good rotational tight end
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: for them, you know, called the second or third tight
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: end whatever it is. Um. Yeah, he he had a
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: touchdown catch a couple of catches. You know, he's a
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: he's a nice role player. You know, we're talking about
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: numbers though. People we talked last week about what Trevor
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Lawrence we need to do with the numbers. He's on
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: pace now for yards, touchdowns, nine interceptions. How would you
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: rate that if those are the numbers at the end
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: of the year. My my prediction, not a prediction, but
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: what I yeah, prediction, what I thought he would do
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: would be one to thirty three and then ten. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: he's fallen short in the touchdown category. He's gonna probably
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: fall a little short in the in the passing category,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but yardage wise, but I mean it's close, it's in
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the ballpark. I thought he would have more touchdown passes,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: but he struggled early in the year. He couldn't really
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: get it going. Now you know in the last one
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: how many is he throwing in the last three games? Six? Yeah,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's two per game. You'd be right
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: at you'd be at thirty five, thirty four. So I
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: do think that what we've seen from him in the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: last three weeks is what we're gonna you're gonna get
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: from him going forward. That's what I think. I just
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: he's special. He's got it. Six touchdowns over the last
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: three games for him, Yep, no interceptions. The throw again,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I go back to the to the throw on on
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the sideline, the post corner route. That throw, I mean,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of guys that can put that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: ball where he put it, that was in the way
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: he put it in there. That that was. That's the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: big boy throw that you want to see. Yeah, he
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: all right, it was. It was exciting. That was I mean,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: it was fun to watch. It was just fun to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: watch a quarterback in a jack Horse uniform operate the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: way he did. I mean for the first time in
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: gosh since really since Mark Brunel was in that uniform.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: There's stability at that position, and and that means your
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: team is gonna be good. It means your team is
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: going to be good for a long time. That's what
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: that means. When you have that guy. You know, yeah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have seasons where maybe it doesn't work out,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be an injury there, but that means you
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: come back the next year and you're gonna be a
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: good team again. It's just like the Chargers are. They
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: always do a lot of things wrong, the coach makes
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, they have a ton of injuries,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: but they're around because of that guy. Every year you're
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, this could be the year the Chargers
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: do it because of Herbert. Well, now it's the same
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: way with in Jacksonville. You say, let's not let's I'd
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: rather let's I'd rather use Joe Burrow as the example,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: because the Chargers find a way to always be mediocre.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: But they think I don't care and I don't care
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: what it is be their mediocre every year. They're they're
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the they're the teas. At the beginning of the year,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: everyone picks the Chargers and they're like the team to pick,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: and then they fall apart and do something stupid and
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: they agree with the injuries. They get some tough injuries.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to talk about. Like,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: let's compare them to let's compare the Bengals. Like the
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Bengals now have sustainable success for the next ten years.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: They might win one or in that time frame. They
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: could have won one last year, but they might win another,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: win one in that time frame because of him. That's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: what Jacksonville now has. Well, here's the situation issue with
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the with the Bengals. They're gonna get in the playoffs,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I mean high, high percentage and wouldn't surprise you if
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: they're playing in the n f C Championship Game again. No,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: we neither. And what they did to Derrick Henry on
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Sunday was outstanding. I mean the a thirty eight yards rushing,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: they beat him up, they got after him. You know,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: with DJ Reader back in the life, that's a good team.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You know who they played this week, don't you, by
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the way, Kansas City? Yeah? Yeah, this is a great
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: week of games, by the way, because you have Miami
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: going to San Francisco another great game, and then you
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: also have this was not as great, but it'll be
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: fun to watch the Vikings offense against the Jets defense. Pete,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: was I wrong about two? Is he good? Yes? I
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: was two? Yes, I've yes. But you know what though,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad the other day and
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: he asked me, what does he do when he goes
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to Buffalo when it's when the weather isn't good? Yeah,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: look at the there's always that uncertainty with a guy
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: who doesn't have a big arm in the conditions. Don't
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: they have to go to New England too? Yeah, So
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: listen to this schedule for the Dolphins coming up at
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, at the Chargers at Buffalo three straight games,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: how about that? And then home against Green Bay on
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Christmas Day and then at the Patriots home against the Jets.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: That's their schedule down the stretch, three straight road games,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, Chargers, Bills, my gosh, and all over the
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: country everything. Tony, You know how you always say that
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville's receivers are open more than you've ever seen them before.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And it's true because the design of the offense, they
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: get open. I don't think I've ever seen receivers as
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: wide open those two guys in Miami A because of
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the design and the offense, and be because it gets
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: flat out run. Yeah, they're so fast. They put the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: fear put the fear of gone in corners, and so
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: everyone plays so soft and off because they don't want
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: to get run by. And there's just so much space underneath.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, give him the Dolphins credit for hiring
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. I don't think he was at the top
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of everyone's list. But he's a heck of a football coach. Man.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: He's an offensive wizard because he makes it easy on
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that quarterback. Tony. You know that they run that zone scheme.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: So the play fake inside, boom throw, the quick throw.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: It's easy throws. But he's making him and they turn
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: him into big place. But I can't wait to watch
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: him this week against the Niners though. That'll be that
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Niners defense will be interesting with those way those linebackers
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: run and to get depth and everything else. It'll be
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how they handle him. By the way,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Armstead the left tackle might not be in that game.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He got hurt on Sunday. Yeah, that would be a
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: big loss. With Joey Bosa Russian the quarterback, Nick, I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: mean Nick, Sorry, Hey, we're back in a moment and
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: we're gonna keep it real. When do we come back? Um,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: we haven't kept it real yet for an hour and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, but we will for the next hid Jaguars game.
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• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: to start a two minute drive. You go win the game. Um,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: but just guys in the huddle, like never lost never
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: lost faith, you know, didn't flinch right back in the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: huddle next play. It didn't really matter what happened, um,
• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:37
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• 1:00:40
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• 1:00:45
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• 1:00:48
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• 1:00:53
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  Speaker 1: matchup this week and they won't face head to head,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: but it will be the talking point a lot of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the week. And Pete brought it up earlier. Number one
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: versus number two picks overall in the draft Trayvon Walker,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson, Jaguars Lions coming up in week thirteen. Well,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: is it is it going to be overblown? Is it? Uh?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Is it Trayvon's Walker, Trayvon Walker's time to step out?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Is Hutchinson going to continue what he's doing? What do
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: you think, Pete. Look, Hutchinson hasn't been dominant either, let's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: let's slow the role. But he's been better. I mean,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: he's been a better pass rusher, he's influenced the quarterback.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I watched the tape today by the way of the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Bills and Lions, because I always go back and look
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: at these offensive linemen to see who's bad and who's not.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Spencer Brown might be one of the worst offensive tackles
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I've seen in the law on time at right tackle
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: for the Bills. He's a problem for him. I'm sure,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Tony you've watched him. He's bad. And Hutchinson got rushes
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: on him, he pushed them, he got in the pot.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't dominant, but he got by him
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of different times. So if you ask me
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: who's better right now, Hutchinson is a better football player
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: right now than Trayvon Walker is. And I don't think
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's an argument. And by the way
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: you saw Thursday, I'm sure you guys watched the game
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: on Thursday when the Giants played. Thibodeau was pretty darn
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: good in that game too. Those guys are rushing the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: past are better than Trayvon Walker is right now. So
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers, Aidan Hutchinson has five
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: and a half stacks, Traybon is too. Aidan Hussinson has
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: two interceptions, Traybon has one. So the numbers say that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Aidan Hudson is more impactful. I don't know the pressure
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: numbers of that each of them have. I'm sure it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: out there somewhere. Um, you know, I mean, numbers can
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: be deceiving. Two. If you look at the stat sheet
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: for the Bills game, Aidan Hutchinson had zero tackles, zero sist,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: zero sacks. He was shut out on the statue. Now,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched the tape, Pete has you know, did
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: you get some good pressure and in fact the quarterback, Um,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: it sounds like it. But regardless of no matter what
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: you want to say, I think at this point of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: their careers, which is very very early, only eleven games in,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson is the better football player. I'm not saying
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: he's the better prospect. I'm not saying he's more upside.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything like that, but as a as
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a guy who can put his hand in the ground
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and rush the passer and impact on a more consistent basis.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: That's Aidan Hutchinson at this point. I mean he does more.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Right now, he's doing more. What give me? Give me
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: plays from Trayvon Walker that stand out to you over
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the course of this season. We can on the Commanders,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: which was an amazing play, by the way, amazing play.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: The He had a nice sack against the Commanders, so
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: he started off really strong. Um. He has physical in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the run game for most of the year. Um, that's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: about it. I mean, it's just he doesn't do enough.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: He's a good looking football player who doesn't do enough.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I mean he again, McCarry is a good player, but
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta win there at some point, you gotta win. Mccarrey,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you mean, um, yeah, McCary. They call him, it's McCarry,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: but that's okay. It's not McCarry. It's McCarry. Um. Now,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: if you go look at the pronunciation, it's McCarry. Um. Uh,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: you got it right in front of you. What is
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: um looking up? Mccarrey is what this says thank you, okay. Um,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder if John I wonder if tray Bon Walker
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: is in the right position. Was he I didn't watch
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: every Georgia game, and I trust our scouts and they
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: watch a lot. I don't remember seeing him standing up
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: in a two point rushing the pastor as a defensive
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: end that much. Did he pete or my not a lot?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, JP, you watched more college football than I do.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Watch Georgia all the time last year, but I don't
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: remember a lot of that. By the way, thirty three
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: pressures for Hutchinson for for Trayvon and if you want to,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see the four. Um, I wonder if
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: tray Bond is either a four three defensive end or
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: a three or four defensive end, if you know, put
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: ten fifteen pounds on him. He's a big, physical guy.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: And I said it last week. I'll say it again
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: this week. I'd like to see him rush from a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: three technique with his hand in the ground, which I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: think they should start doing more of. Why don't they
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: try that at times? Um? You gonna see them? I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I don't know. I just I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: think I think he's not sudden. That was the book
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: on him when he played when he was in college.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Not sudden. I mean, they ain't a pass rusher there
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that's gonna go and Mike go in the first round
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: last year? Who is sudden? He he's gonna be? Might
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: be it was. You could watch the tape and see
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: that he's Look, he's always gonna be a physically imposing player,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: but as an edge rush guy, that that's not his
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: his strength. I mean, you would think Tony this far
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: into the season he would learn some moves. Right, he's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: still running right smack in the middle of his just
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you said it in week two and three. Yeah, And
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I think to be a great pass rusher
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you have to have suddenness to you. You have to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: be you know, that quick twitch sudden. I mean I'm
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: not saying he doesn't have that. I mean he's explosive
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: as hell. Um. I just wonder. I mean, I look
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: at our two first rounders and we're at and are
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: they asked? Are they being asked to do stuff they
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: did not do in college? Yes, for the most part
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: they are. So it's a little bit of a transition
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: for both of them. So I mean that means you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: gotta be patient if that's if that's what the coaching
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: staff as determined where their long term value is. There's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be a transition period and you've gotta be patient,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: and you can't. I mean, there's been plenty of stories Pete,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: you know him as well as I do. Guys who
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: get drafted early and struggle in the transition year one,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden year two, they look
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: like different players. And I think Walker has that that possibility,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: But as of right now, Hutchinson is a better player.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: If you if you had to do it all over
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: again and you were looking for an edge rusher right now,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you would take Thibodeau and Hutchinson over him. I don't think. Yeah,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I said it back then. I would have
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: taken an offensive tackle, but the one you would have
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: taken isn't playing, and he was getting better. Evan Neil,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that's who you would have taken, hasn't played, hasn't played
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: great either. I'm just thinking, but in hindsight, not taking
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the offensive tackle was probably the right as well. Maybe
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: not because he can't pay You can't pay Joan Taylor either.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: The bottom lines, you need pass rush and right now
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: you have a number one overall pick and a number
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: seven overall pick tied up as your two pass rushers,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: and neither of them are getting to the quarterback. And
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and so you watch the tape. What do you see
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: from Josh Allen on the tape? I mean I had
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: some nice rushes, but didn't I mean nothing impactful. No,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: there's nobody that like blows past the guy, like gets
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: into a guy, uses his hands, get off, and then
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: wins with a sack. No, they're not doing that. They
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: don't do it well. I always say, is it as
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: an edge rusher? And I'll speak to that. It really
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: goes for any pass rusher. But let's just focus on
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: the edge rushers right now. You have to have a
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  Speaker 1: move that scares the offensive tackle and that you can
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: counter off of and so and so. I always say,
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  Speaker 1: is it like, like a perfect example, if you're an
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: outside rusher and you can't threaten me with power, that's overwhelming. Okay,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: they better have an inside move because if all you
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: can do is work up the field, you're never gonna win.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: You'll just ride him up the field the whole time.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'll just stay inside out and just you know, maybe
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: overset a little bit if you're really fast, and because
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of you running me over, and I'm
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: not afraid of you going inside. But now if you
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: have a great inside move, now all of a sudden,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: like I'll give you a per example, and this, I mean,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a Hall of Famer this year.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Or Dwight Freeney, you want be Dwight Freeney? Like almost
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: unblockable at times? Is he had a three he could
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: beat you three ways. He had good speed, not great,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: but he had good speed, and he could reach speed
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and stay under low. But he had really good power
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: speed to power because he was the way he was
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: built here the thick legs. But what would kill you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: as soon as you sat down on the power or
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: we're taking away he had that deadly inside spin move
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that would just wreck you. So now all of a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: sudden you're thinking, oh my gosh, what am I gonna
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: take away? Right? And like Von Miller is more than
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: just up the field speed guy, because he could get
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: into you a little bit and he can go inside
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you well like I like, for example, if I was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: blocking Von Miller, I would not I might go ahead
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Von you want to run me over, go for it.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And what the only the only thing I'd be worried
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: about Von Miller's is inside spin move because it's so deadly,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and because of that, it sets up his outside speed
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: and working his your hands up the field because you're
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: worried about setting to the inside and making sure you're
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: not gonna get beat on the inside move. And so
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: you have tvon Walker. You're just gonna let him come
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: to you and try and power you again. You're gonna
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: sit there and your power against his power. I probably
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: short set him all day long, wouldn't even let him
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: get going. The short set him because he's not gonna
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be up the field and he has
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: no one inside move. So short said him. It's just
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: two guys power on power and you're gonna and he
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: does have good power, there's no doubt about that, but
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: it's a short set him. He can't use that power
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: like he would if you weren't short set. And even
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: if you know, we're just change it up with short sets.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: So he's worried about it, and you gotta get thinking, yeah,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: because you let him come to you, right, I mean,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you get him and and he's coming right at you. Yeah,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: and even if you said deep you know that the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: power is coming, you just sit on it because you're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: not worried about the inside move. Now if you had
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: an inside move, well, it changes it. Then then how
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: do you block that guy? If he's that powerful and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: he has an inside move, how do you block him? Well,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: then you gotta I mean, then you gotta be thinking.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I'd still short set him if I was playing him,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm not overly. I don't think he has blazing
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: He hasn't shown where he's just gonna beat up, speed
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: up the field. Um. And so I mean I'm never
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: gonna set anyone one way. I mean, you change up
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: your sets and then and then you getta. I always
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the first couple of series, you're gonna feel
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: for the guy and basically what he struggles with, um,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and what you're gonna do. But like you you know,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: ultimately what his go to is your best battles I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: always thought was Mike McCrary, who wasn't a big guy,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't amazing power power, and he was fasten
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: and he had moved, but he was also fast enough
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: where he could go up the field a little bit.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: It wasn't explosive, but he could do that. Yeah. But
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: the reason you had to worry about his up the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: field because he was so powerful if he said deep
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: he was on bull rushing because he had he played
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: with such great leverage and great hand placement. And so
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I've short set him all day long, all the time
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: and change it up. And then I'd also punch and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: snatch him because he played with such low leverage that
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: he get over over his feet sometimes I get him
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: on the ground. Okay, So what does Trayvon Walker in
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: your mind as a as a Hall of Fame officive
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: tackle What does he need to learn how to do
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: to become an effective pass rusher. He needs to I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: mean with his length. If he if he figured out
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: a one armed bull that what you know, long arm.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: If he could learn how to long arm guys and
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: then set up the moves off the long arm with
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: a nice inside move with long arms, hand slap outside,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: you know, work up the field, use that inside hand
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: with because he hasn't enough strength where he could you know,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of a you know, a hump
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: moved back to the inside. I mean, but I his
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: his length is tremendous and his powers tremendous. So learn
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: the one arm, guys, and and work off that. Yeah,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I still think the talents there. I think it will
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: come for him. It's just a matter of it's not
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: coming right now at all. I mean it's just I mean,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: if you listened to his impact plays over the course
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: of the season, j P, here's that thing the way,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Like I always said, I love to play in this
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: era because how many times does any team in today's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: NFL do a seven step drop? That's true, nobody, And
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: like that's all we did. We mark with being the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: shotgun and take five from the shotgun. He would and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean not because that's what he was told to do.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: And he'd be at ten eleven yards sitting back there.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: And you know, so now you have a three ago
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: the way Trevor I was watching him today. I mean,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: he's sitting there at seven eight yards. My goodness. You
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: can't beat outside. You can't. There's no I just play
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: the angles right, m wow, either you haven't keeping it real.
• 1:15:12
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• 1:15:21
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• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: real quick. That's I'll say one thing that you know.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: One of the reasons our pass balking is is much improved.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I give Phil Rousher a ton of credit. And the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: guys are doing it is their angles of sets are
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: so much better and they understand how to set based
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: on where the quarterback is. I'm just speaking the tackles here,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: and both Jowan Taylor and and Cam Robinson are doing
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: such a good job. And they're playing smart because they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: understand where the quarterbacks dropping, what they're trying to do,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: and they're taking the angles away and they're just doing
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I and kudos to them for taking the coaching. And
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Philip Rousher's really cleaning up the sets and how they set,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: you know, And no longer do you have Jowan Taylor
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just bailing out straight back and giving up the inside
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: his sets. His angles are in hand. It's so much
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: better and half the battle if you if you set
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: right and you take the proper angles, you're gonna make
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: it very difficult for a defensive end to beat you.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Because of the way the passing game is today and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the weather, the way that they that Trevor drops and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: he does a great job in the pocket, and so
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you know, and as a pass rush you have to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: understand what the tackle is trying to do to you.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: And the good pass rushers are able to mess the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: tackles feet up and get them thinking and get them
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and their their feet out of sorts. And the only
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: way they do that you have to do it working inside.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: You have to power, You have to change up your
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: rushes to keep that tackle, you know, out of a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: rhythm and out of out of sync. All right, guys,
• 1:16:53
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  Speaker 1: Question number one at B G O p e s
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  Speaker 1: one five. But just want to know how Pete would
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: feel if they didn't complete that two point conversion hashtag
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and Doug Wee trust again, I said it earlier. I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I like the decision for that team where it is
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: right now to go for that. I had no problem
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: with it whatsoever. And if you don't get it, you
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: still had that quarterback moment, and so I had no
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: problem with them going for that in that situation. Talk
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: to me about a couple of years. If he does that,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: then I might think differently. But we explain why the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter got loose. Justin Tucker does Tony mentioned great kicker,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: So I understood why they went for it. Yeah, I'm
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: with I mean, I I don't know if I would
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: have changed my opinion if in future years we'll see
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: how this team is, um, I do think and we'll
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: see with overtime, I think the overtime rules are ultimately
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: gonna change where each team gets a possession no matter
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: what um. You know. But yesterday, regardless of the outcome,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I agreed with But by the way, Tony, you would
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: agree with this. We get a little out of hand
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: in this league with going for it all the time.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, we saw a game on Thursday on Thanksgiving.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: It was fourteen thirteen. The Giants are right in the game,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: game hanging around, and they decided to go for it
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: on fourth down from their own what was it, the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: forty five yard line, and they don't get it. The
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: momentum shifts, game game change. They weren't the same. They
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: got blown out the rest of the way. Yeah, Pete,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I'm with you on the fourth down. I think the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: fourth down calls are ridiculous. I mean I think, I mean,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are professional football players are too good.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, um at times to get even
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: a yard. We saw that yesterday for both teams. They
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: they got stuffed the fourth in less than one um.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Unless you're unless you're down inside on your side of
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: the field. I don't like going for fourth down because
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: even if you get it. Let's see you get it
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: sixty yards. It doesn't mean I mean you're not You're
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: not even field goal range or anything. Now when you're
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the fifty. I do like
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: playing aggressive. I do like that. Yes, it depends on
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: the flow of the game too, though. Oh yeah, if
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: you're in if you're in one of those games where
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: it's three three or seven seven and in the third
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, punt play defense, play field position, make them
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: drive your defense is playing well. I think what analytics
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and I and I think analytics have a huge part
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: in this game. I think it's it's good and it
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: helps inform you, it gives you more information. But I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: think what analytics miss is the is the flow of
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the game. Is it a high scoring game, is it
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: a low scoring game? Are you playing a great defense,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: are you playing a bad defense? You have a starting
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: tackle out, do you have a starting to guard in?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Do you have There's none of that factors into the data,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: none of it. Yeah, And so I think you know,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: analytics over place. They're very important. It's something you need,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: it's information that you can use. But I also think
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: you have to as the head coach, you have to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: have a feel for your team, your opponent, the situation,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: everything else. I mean, go back to that Jets Patriots
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: game three three. You're not going for the fourth down anywhere.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: You're playing field position all day long because you understand
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: that both offense is are really struggling, right, and if
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Bengals get loose to the point they're
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: going up and down the field thirty four, you go
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: for it all the time. That's right. I agree question
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: number two from Twitter today. This is from ATT nine
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  Speaker 1: oh four more. With the Jags linebacking corps playing well
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: with three linebackers and three safety looks on defense, should
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: that be the new identity for this defense or wasn't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: just a weekly matchup scheme? Matchup scheme weekly? No, no, no, no,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: and no. You're starting linebackers. Inside linebackers should be um
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: uh A, Lou Khan and Muma and no, I mean
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: like three safeties. Maybe I'm not against the three safety
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: look if you're confident with ray Shon Jenkins playing the slot,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean playing the nickel at times, um in certain
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: situations because I think I think Winger is a really
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: good football player. Yeah, I disagree with you on wingered
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, he played well yesterday, but he's played well
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: all your pete. We've seen him make bad plays. Like
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: you talked to the coaches in training camp. They felt
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: like they had three safeties that could start, and he
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: played well yesterday. I'm not gonna take that away from him.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: But no, you gotta in this era. First off, the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Ravens had no receivers on Sunday. They're all banged up,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback is a different guy. That's a different
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: way to defend that guy. So no, absolutely not. You
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: gotta play with corners in this league. And after watching
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: the tape, I wouldn't have played three linebackers yesterday either.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I would have put I would have played wing. I
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: played three. I would have played winger two. I mean
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: winger right now playing better football than Devn Lloyd. And
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: he's physical, he's tough, he'll stick his head in there,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: he's not afraid. I mean, I'm a big fan of winger.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Next question on Twitter busy place today after win of
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: course at Devil Jaguar x AD two. I was at
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: the game from Kansas. I have no voice and I'm
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: still ecstatic. Is this something we can get used to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: a Trevor, did he turn the corner? He showed more
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: emotion yesterday than I think we've ever seen. Love you
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: guys x more. Um, I don't. I mean, I don't
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: get the emotion. I think Trevor is always a fiery guy.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: He's he is a will to win, he's competitive. Like,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, that was a big moment,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: a big game, and like you get excited, like maybe
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: he showed a little, it showed it comes out differently,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: But no, I don't. I think Trevor has always had
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: an emotion. Now the first part of this question, Yeah,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this has been building for a while.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: To me, one of the best things that Trevor Lawrence
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: has done this year is how he responded after the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Denver game when everybody was killing him and there was
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: questions and was he a bust and he's terrible and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: he can't do this and that and everything else everybody
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: um except for Pete nine and and his response and
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: his toughness mentally, and he didn't let it bother him
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: and he didn't change who he was. He didn't change
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: how he answered questions in the press conference. He did
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: a great job and his play is shown that he's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: the real and you know what you saw from him
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  Speaker 1: late in that game. The confidence. You know, at times,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta admit this. At times this year, early in
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: the season, you were it was a little it was
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: a little unsettled, and the confidence wasn't always there. And
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  Speaker 1: he get when something went bad. He seemed to go bad.
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  Speaker 1: That didn't happen on Sunday. That's not that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the moment where he arrived. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: he should be anointed for football Saint Hood for dealing
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: with that moron for an entire year last year. Okay,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: he had to deal with the moron, the idiot coach.
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  Speaker 1: You knew nothing about football in the NFL way. He
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: had to deal with the moron, and he trotted him
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  Speaker 1: out every single week, and he stood there and answered
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  Speaker 1: all the questions as the face of the franchise as
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  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Think about that, and now he's navigated
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: through that. He's got a real coach and now you're
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  Speaker 1: starting to see what he can really do. How about
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  Speaker 1: that guy on Fox now, I mean, I mean he's
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: like an expert on Fox Now again, Yeah, far from it.
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  Speaker 1: I had to go upstairs early Saturday, so I did
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  Speaker 1: not cross paths with him at Ohio State Question number
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  Speaker 1: four social media, I have no idea. Um I would
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  Speaker 1: have forced the issue though, why not at trevor Ville
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  Speaker 1: underscore who is the best quarterback in the a f
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  Speaker 1: C South right now? Also what's lacking from this team?
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  Speaker 1: So we can take the next step. Oh, the best
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence by far. It's not even close. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: It's not even close. It's like bath I mean it's not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you looked at the a f C
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  Speaker 1: right now, this would be interesting, Pete, how many quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: would you take before Trevor Lawrence right now? In the
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  Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you got it. I mean you have Herbert Harbor.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh, he's been it more. That's fair umo to No,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would either. I wouldn't either. If he's
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  Speaker 1: playing better, he's he's playing better than him right now. Okay,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: his numbers are better. But if you're asking me right now,
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  Speaker 1: if I had to win a game and bet my
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  Speaker 1: life on it, I'm taking trapper over to it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you'd certainly take him. I would take him for the
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  Speaker 1: long run too, So yeah, i'd probably take it. Who else?
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  Speaker 1: You're not nobody else in that scent in the South,
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  Speaker 1: nobody in the North. Would you take him over Lamar Jackson?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't, not nothing, because Lamar he is a great player,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: But the way I want to play football, right I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: don't want to play football that way either. Um, No,
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, No, No, you're right. So he's fourth, fifth,
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  Speaker 1: or six somewhere in there. Yeah, I mean they're six
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  Speaker 1: probably if you're Yeah, because the one guy you could
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  Speaker 1: argue in fairness is Lamar Jackson ahead of him, right,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, but that's a different that could also argue
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: to ahead of him. The way he's played this year,
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  Speaker 1: he's not giving him done on that one. You gotta
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: wait to see the three games stretch. Right then? In
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  Speaker 1: the NFC, who would you take ahead of him? Right now? Okay?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: But would you you wouldn't take Kirk Cousins is probably
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: better than him right now, but you wouldn't take him
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  Speaker 1: for the long run. I'm talking about just this year.
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  Speaker 1: This year you would take Rogers over Um, this year
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  Speaker 1: you would take I'm still taking I'm still taking Brady.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Dak Prescott, but he had a year though
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: he's still he's still leading the league in passing guards. Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: About who else Dak Prescott, Dak probably Dak Yeah, um Garoppolo, No,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Stafford's not playing well, Kyler Murray No, Um, Jalen Hurts
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: different style style, but yeah, but Jalen Hurts you've gotta
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: give credit to because he's still too. You take Jalen
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Hurts right now and you build it around them. Um,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: but you gotta wonder what Jalen hurts. What happens when
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: you can't run like he runs? That's the other issue. Yeah,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: but he's a pretty good thrower pe a like hat
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: guy throw I'm not saying he's like Trevor, but he's
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  Speaker 1: like I think he's better than he gets credit for.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: He's improved. Where are we missing Anybody's JP in the NFC?
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  Speaker 1: Those are the big names. Yeah, I know, nothing else
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  Speaker 1: stands out to me. Well, you know, the debate. The
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: debate has been, um, his fields as good as him?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: And the answer that question is no, the fields will
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: be good. He's gonna be good. Yeah, he's a tough guy.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Can run around, do all that stuff. I have a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: ton of respect for Justin Fields. You guys have stun
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: for Cousins. Is better than him right now, right now? Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: If you had to win a game right now, you
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: take Curt Cousins. He can do a lot of stuff.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: He's smart, he's accurate, he's a good player. All right.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: One more question on social media, I hope there before
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  Speaker 1: you go to this question, is I mean, right now
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: being conservative Trevors the top top what top half? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: he'd be top half. Alright. Final question here it is
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: how did Tony stay composed in the moment? Of course,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the moment is the touchdown pass? And on social media,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: the Jaguar's official account has video from the broadcast booth
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: of everyone losing their mind except Tony Wasselly calm, cool, collective?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: They composed? He was? He froze in the moment. He's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: a big game froze. No, my head's moving, I'm focusing,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the situation. I'm trying to look at
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: the replay right there, trying to understand what happened and
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: making sure that it was an actual touchdown. And then
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Jeff starts talking so I'm not gonna jump over him froze.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't freeze. What do you think, JP? You think
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: he frozen the moment I'm called Conference Championship Games. I'm like,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: this is the break. I don't know. Dave laughing got
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: excited when he s team scored a touchdown. I'm kind
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: of with Tony on the laying out part. I'm with
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: you on that, Tony. You're always hard because you want
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: to her yourself, like jump up and down, like give
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: high fives. I mean, what do you want me to do?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Be alive? I'm sitting there, I'm now again. The best
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: part of it is the readers. Three old men. Wow,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: who's the who's your spotter? Then that's John Dene his
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: name John Denied? Yeah, no, show some emotion a little bit. Anyways,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: you all right, Rick Flair, We're back in a moment,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: and we'll go around the NFL some scores, a couple
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  Speaker 1: of highlights, will wrap it up. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Twenty seconds to play the clock,
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  Speaker 1: turn cover, drop fire to the right corner of the
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  Speaker 1: end zone. That Paul is cut clod God from the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown to the right corner of the Endzode, how good
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: is that touchdown? Jacksonville foreman June Junior. There's Frank Frangie
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  Speaker 1: on the call of the touchdown with fourteen seconds to
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  Speaker 1: go yesterday on the Jaguars Radio Network, J P. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony was Sally, Yes, Pete, you're looking around.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: What are you looking for? I'm doing my invitation at
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Tony after the call yesterday, Pete, what would you have done? Honest?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know you would have done nothing different than
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I did. Well, I probably would have got my the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: word in first before long. You know me. Not competence.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: It's not a competition. No, I don't know, but okay,
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  Speaker 1: I probably would have done the same thing because I
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: would have been worried about Frank here to my laft.
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  Speaker 1: But it's funny to give you crab about it because
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: everybody on Twitter was talking about it. You're just sitting there.
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  Speaker 1: He did he notice? Yeah, something your mind. I mean,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: the play went through review. It wasn't It wasn't a
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: slam dunk. It's a good thing. Marvin jones Worth thick sucks.
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  Speaker 1: I'll put it that way, because without that he might
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: not have been in the end zone. Think he got
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  Speaker 1: his feet in. No, he didn't get he didn't get
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  Speaker 1: two feet in twice. But that doesn't count. You have
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: to get count. You get two ft and um you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: get in. It's anything above the ankle count. Yeah, it
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: hit the ground if you look at it, and hits
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: the ground before he goes out of mountains. By the way,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: you know you talk about Tony you mentioned to his
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: right foot got down twice. I got a story about that.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: We're working in in the green room in South Florida
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: and John Beason, longtime NFL linebacker, you know, he played
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: for Caroline, was a good player. So this guy does
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: the exact same thing, gets touched on twice with his
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: right foot, and I go he's out of bounds and
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: he goes, no, no, no, no, you have two feet
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  Speaker 1: in to in. So what are you talking about? He goes, yeah,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: right right. I said, what are you talking about? Easy
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: to get the right and the left. We were talking
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: about that, other things like hey, this is the right
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: getting down twice count and he actually believed that the
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: guy played the league for ten twelve years, right right,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: So they well, I was sure you need right and left,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: but I was like, because when they were reviewing it initially,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what. I'm like, what are they reviewing?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't see the shin go down until they
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: really slowed it down. I'm like, maybe it's if you
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  Speaker 1: get the same foot in twice and count like you
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: played for a decade and don't know the rule. But
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: like for but you're looking at the replay. It took
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: so long you're trying to figure out what they're looking at. Right,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see that was pretty clear that he got it
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  Speaker 1: in twice, So they couldn't have been that they were
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: looking at because they would have had that right away
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: any time there was a sideline or there's still to
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: this day, it's if I see him, it's like, right, right,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: right right, need to come on, give you a break.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I made the comment well the week before against the Chiefs,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Darius Tony got his right foot in ten times before
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: he put his left foot in. It said, maybe that
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: that counts. Yeah, he's still hopping down the side. I
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: don't know what he was doing on that play. By
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: the way, I thought he got hurt, but he's just
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: hopping down the sideline. I'm like, oh, I guess he's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: inbound twenty five yards wide open. You can hop all
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: you want, I guess at that point on that play.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at a couple of
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: scores from around the league, at least yesterday, well Thanksgiving,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: of course, we mentioned those games earlier. Bills over the Lions,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys knocked off the Giants, the Vikings over the Patriots,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: all on Thanksgiving. Yesterday, Panthers over the Broncos, Browns beat
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers seventeen. The Bucks are in first place, Pete,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: and they have a losing record. It's the division is awful.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is so bad, and they're gonna win
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: the division because the rest of those teams are terrible.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: It's just awful. The Jets over the Bears yesterday thirty
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: one ten. The Commanders beat the Falcons nineteen thirteen. Chargers
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: over the Cardinals four. They went for two. Well, I
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: don't mind that. I mean, I didn't like that one
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: because I think that they're a good team and ready
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: in the playoff contention, so I wouldn't have done that one.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: The Raiders won in overtime. How about the run to
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: end it in style for the Las Vegas Raiders yesterday
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: down to five on the play clock gets the staff
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: hands off to Jacob stutters to the right. First of
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: the whole. He's off to the races harritsy. I don't know,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: but he's gonna catch him. Tell him ball game, Bye
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: bye Josh. Eighties, six yards and over time to walk
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: it off for a second straight week. Touchdown Raiders victory
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders over the Seahawks forty to thirty four
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: is Jason Harrowitz on the Compass Media Las Vegas Raiders
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  Speaker 1: radio network. I think it was the anniver history of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Bye Bye Bo. When he went in the tunnel. Well,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that that thing they blocked it. Well,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: the middle linebacker got crushed by the fullback and off
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: he went. There was nobody there. It was. It was
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: a great play. And then the Chiefs over the Rams,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the Niners over the Saints, Eagles over the Packers. All right,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: we're inside a minute. So next week Jags Lions does
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: the do they start a streak? Pete? It's gonna be tough,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: but I'll I think the Lions beat him. I'll get honestly, no,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll pick Jacksonville in that game.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: But they're they're underdogs in the game. Oh, I think
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: it's like thirty five thirty one Jags, some high scoring game,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: first one, the first one to thirty five wins, Jacksonville
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: gets thirty five, Trevor throws three. How about that time?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: And guess what The Titans are going down next week too,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: So the gap will continue to close, sets up a
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: big game in two weeks. That's Tony Wasselli and Pete Brisco.
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  Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick for our entire crew. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for listening this Jaguar Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital
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