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Trekcast 396: It's The Final Countdown · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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Tracks, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Hello and welcome to Chuck
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Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable podcast. I am with me as always is
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Daniel Reyes. I think Scott Boughters is here. I don't know. Yeah,
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I don't know. Is he he just teleported in? He did?
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I am here? He did. Meanwhile, Chas Bizin is sending text messages
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on the side, like I don't think he's coming, guys, I mean,
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do you want me to fill in for Scott today? Am I gonna
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have to get rid of him? Like? Oh, never mind? What
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you better? You better watch your back, man, I see that,
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I see that. Yeah. All I'm saying, so do you have do
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you have any uh, do you have any body armor leftover from your military
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days? I can either confirm nor deny that. I'm just I'm just saying,
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were the trauma plate in the back right? Lovely? According to chastiz
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Wow, but I'm here, I'm here. Yeah, I know, I
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doing good, doing good. Yeah. Yesterday we uh we drove up to
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Holland, Michigan and went to the Dutch village and they've got like a an
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area up there where you can you know they've got all the employees wear wooden
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shoes and you can see demonstrations and stuff like that. It's about family.
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To pull out your wooden shoes you Yeah, I did. I did pull
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out the wooden shoes and cool. So yeah, it was a good time.
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We visited some friends that were camping up there and yeah, so Italian
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moms throw wooden spoons as part of a uh, you know, maintaining discipline.
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Yeah, what is that? It's a flip flop flip flop. Okay,
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So I'm wondering. I'm wondering, is there is you know, do
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Dutch do Dutch moms throw wooden shoes? I don't know. Did they clog
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you? Like you better knock it off or I'm gonna clog you. And
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see, I've been meaning to look up to see if wooden shoes were actually
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called sabo in in Dutch, because Lieutenant Valaris tells that story about workers who
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were threatened by automation flung their wooden shoes called sabo into the machines to stop
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them, hence the word sabotage. Yeah, I remember, I remember wanting
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to look that up about a thousand times and forgetting never do it. I
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mean, that's so obscure. I have to see you not the only one.
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NERD alert, NERD alert early already. Oh man, I know how
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to bring it back to trek. Bring it back, bring it back.
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Everything is everything is trek. Every It doesn't matter what situation you're in,
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there's star trek around you. I was yard sailing yesterday. Yeah, okay,
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And so you know, I do this a couple of times a year.
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I'll just head out on a Saturday or Sunday to spend the day yard
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sailing, and you kind of you kind of start to notice trends. And
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one of the trends that I noticed this year is there is a big dump
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of physical media, like oh yeah, like the DVDs and the Blu rays
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are showing up at yard sales hard. And the difference between this year and
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last year is like, you know, they're twenty five cents each, right,
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twenty five get rid of them. Yeah. Yeah. So I went
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to this I went to this yard sale in Saugerties. I met this guy
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named Chuck Chuck from Sagrates. But I commented to him, I said,
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you know, you can't give these things away. I remember twenty years ago.
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I used to every week I'd spend twenty thirty forty fifty bucks on on
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DVDs. And he says, oh, yeah, even the even the season
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sets. There's a couple over there, they're you know, they're really cheap.
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And I look over there and there was this one of the season sets
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from Deep Space nine. So I picked it up. I held it up
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and said, let me tell you some I'm a huge trekkie. And I
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remember when these were coming out twenty four years ago, and every two weeks
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I spent one hundred and twenty dollars on one of these when they here every
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other month, whatever it was. And he proceeds to tell me what a
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big treky he is as well. He plays start check online. He pointed
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to his Uh, he pointed to his van. He's got a Starfleet emblem
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on his van. So of course, right, just did that Chuck from
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Sogrates listen to check cast the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Heck yeah,
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so I don't know. So I don't know if he's listening, but
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you know, Chuck from Sogerties, if you're listening, Uh, hey,
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what's up, bros? That's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool.
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So I did not buy his DVD. I know that. Oh yeah.
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Uh does this mean we're gonna go out to garage sales next week? Dan,
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Well, I'm coming Friday. That's true. Friday, I don't know.
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I don't know about in Idaho, but Friday afternoon garage sales sort of
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thing. And well really yeah, that's the real thing and Idaho. Yeah,
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a lot of people doing Friday afternoons. So yeah, I'm down.
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Okay, are you guys excited about next weekend? That's gonna be Yeah,
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the yard sales, yes, I'm yes. I think my neighbors are having
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some, so I'll check it out. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be going
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to trek Long Island next week. I'm flying it on Thursday, and yeah,
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I'm I'm very excited to be there. What is the name of that
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town? I know it's on Long Island, but you're asking me? Come
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on, there's like three different names every time I google it, like Bohemia,
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New York and oh yeah, So what happens Okay, So what happens
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a lot? I don't know if this happens other places, but what happens
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a lot in New York Is. You'll have a town, and within that
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town there's a village, or within that town there is a hamlet, which
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doesn't have any political subdivision. There's no mayor of a hamlet. It's just
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this is a neighborhood, and we call this area of the town by this
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name. And if the post office happens to be in the village or the
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hamlet. Because of the zip code system, the federal government doesn't care where
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you actually live. They care which five digit number we're sending this mail to.
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Right, So there's a lot of situations where you live in the town
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of such and such, but the post office that delivers your mail goes by
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this name, which is the name of another town. So Dan and I
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have no idea, or Daniel and I have no idea what you're talking about,
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because I don't know about you, Daniel. I do not live in
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a town with the population of over two million. So no post malls has
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maybe got ten thousand, maybe ten thousands, Okay, okay, so they
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don't they don't have to sublet these little tidy villages. And that's right,
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that's right. I get to borrow the internet for the town, and then
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I have to give it back to you know who's over the next right to
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Mayor Bob, to Mayor Bob. Yeah yeah, well sorry he actually sorry.
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You guys live in the middle of nowhere, right, yes, anyway,
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yeah, well we should probably get to our really big announcement real quick
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right off the top. Even bigger than trek Long Island. I mean,
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even bigger than the yard sales. Yes, bigger than the yard sales for
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sure. Speaking of the yard sales, yeah kind of yeah, so we
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we uh we We talked about it on the on the podcast group and on
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the Facebook group, but we have officially launched our new merch STOREO with chop
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Teas. So chop Teas is an online apparel product or shop. What's really
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cool about them and why we decided to go with them is they ship from
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over thirty two countries with free shipping, So if you live in the US,
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Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK and the European Union,
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you don't pay for shipping. And the other cool thing is taxes are already
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factored in, so the part that's the price. Wow, okay, cool
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cool? And then what's what's even cooler? Right now? Because we're just
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kicking off. If you go and you sign up for their newsletter on chop
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teas dot com, so it's chop dash Teas dot com, you can get
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a ten percent discount on your first order for your treck Cast merch so makes
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it even better for you guys. Uh. It's also linked to our our
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main website. So if you go to trek Caast dot com, right at
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the top, it's a shop. You click that and it'll take you right
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to the chop Teese store. We are working on more shirt designs to come
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out in the next week or two. Cool. So yeah, but this
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is what we got so far. We got they got teas in women's cuts.
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So yeah, yeah, she gets seven. So you're saying that I
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should and then every day she could just she can represent the podcast, right
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absolutely. Well, she's got one of the old trek Cast t shirts,
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so right right, right now, I'm gonna get her a new one and
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I think we're gonna wear them on the on the cruise. Oh right.
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Yeah. So so that's yeah, free shipping, like I said, from
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from several different countries. So yeah, it's very exciting. So there you
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go. That is awesome. That is awesome. So what's the turnaround?
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You know, it's pretty quick from what I looked at. So if we
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like, let's say for this shirt example, right, so it's loading up
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if you were to order it today. Estimated deliveries between June second and June
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sixth. Okay, so pretty quick, and then that free shipping sizes go
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fairly large from I wish I wish I knew a week ago because I was
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going to get one that says trek Cast. Unfortunately Scott is on a cruise,
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and then I would wear that around Long Island. Yeah, yeah,
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I might have something for you already, Dan Scott's Scott's tired to hear that.
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No, no, no, that's okay. Well, just for clarification,
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I'm not going to be on a cruise next weekend, but by all
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means, enjoy your cruise, yes, and I'm going to enjoy my cruise.
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I don't want you to not enjoy it. And I and I will
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be I will be representing trek Cast. I just want you to think about
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what you've done. I will, I will. I'm gonna blame my wife.
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I'll just blame brave brave man. Listening right now, Chop and he's
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saying, people have gotten their stuff in three days. Really okay? Oh
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yeah, well hi there, yeah, Hi Dicky Bird. He's listening to
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the podcast that's all right, but allowed for and he's in Australia, so
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it's very late for him. Oh wow, okay, yeah, yeah,
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so that's the new Chops. He says, I I will be I will
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be ordered a couple of T shirts today. Oh yes, And as we
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had mentioned before, we talked about this, uh chop teas really great company.
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They work with a lot of the wrestling podcasts that I listened to,
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so that's how I found out about them. I'm very excited about it.
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So he says he's watching F One's watching F one Formula one. Oh okay,
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yeah, that's a that's a racing kind of thing in other countries.
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Yeah that's right. Yeah. Cars, cars, they're funny looking cars,
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that's right. Automobiles, right, Yeah. They don't look like Chevy Lumino's.
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They look they look like motor cars, space ships. The only car
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races I watch are those police chases when they get on CNN or whatever.
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You know what my favorites are. When you get the groups that close down
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a city block and they and they do donuts in the middle of the street,
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and then one of them recks their car and everybody else scatters. I
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love that. I just imagine that one guy standing there, his cars wrapped
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around a pole. The cops pull up. What happened? I had no
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idea it was like that anyway. Well, yeah, so there you go.
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Col Chopped teas awesome. Yeah, chop Teesse not to be confused with
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chop Cheese, which we will be having next week. I expect a full
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report. I mean, I'm not really interested in this whole trek like thing
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going on. I don't know what's going on. Really, I'm really interested
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in this, you know, chop chopped cheese, sandwich sandwich. You guys
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are going to a Chop Cheese Samis convention, right, and there's like a
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Star Trek door next door. Yes, that's exactly we will have to uh,
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we'll have to make a video of it. Absolutely so, uh Dickie
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versus CHOP's changed my life So I named my company after it. That's fair,
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that's fair. Yeah, all right, Well let's let's get to the
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news. Sure, Star News. All right, So we've got quite a
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few different news stories today. So let me hold ont a second. Hold
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out a second is one of the news stories about a change in ownership at
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Paramount. No, but Paramount is in there. Okay, yeah, sorry,
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the news story that won't go away. Yeah yeah, oh they all
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they all are kind of that way right now. But our first news story
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comes to us from Deadline, and it was announced earlier this week that starf
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Trek Starfleet Academy, that series has announced that Holly Hunter will be the lead
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role. She's going to step in the right direction. Yeah, she's going
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to play the Captain and Chancellor of the Starfleet Academy. So yeah, what
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do you guys think? I like her. She's a good actress. Yeah,
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yeah, I think she's good too. So she was great in Superman
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be Batman. You know, I was just about about to make a reference
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about Sweet Tea. Ok yeah, yeah, I'm trying to google who's that
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senator? Yeah, yeah, she got the glass of piss on her desk,
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Yes, I was, yeah, yeah, yeah, Grandma's sweet Tea,
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Grandma sweat. I hate those movies. I do, No, I
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understand they're awful. But yeah, so she's gonna be the chancellor. I
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did see a lot of people online were saying the only chancellor they recognize is
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gal Ron, So I thought that was funny. So already we're gonna have
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a chancellor off, I guess. And then our next new story comes to
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us from the Hollywood Reporter and yes, we're talking Star Trek four ish.
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So it has been reported that Simon Kinsberg is in talks to produce the next
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Star Trek movie in a reboot for Paramount. So the idea is that this
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new movie is going to be a prequel of sorts before First Contact, like
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leading up to our first contact before the Federation and all that. I know,
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Dan shaking his head. We did this already literally in a show called
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First Contact and a movie called First Contact, you know, because Star Trek
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fans are like, all we want to hear is the word reboot. Yah,
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right right. What's even crazier is, if you really get into some
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of the articles that have been released about this, they're still planning to do
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Star Trek four with the JJ cast. So tell them to tell them to
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stop. Yeah, nobody's I'm angry about it because they keep stop going in
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this direction. It's it's it's old news. How much we hate it.
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So Here's here's the thing. We've already had to deal or they've already had
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to deal with the real lifetimeline catching up with the Star Trek timeline. Because
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of that, they had to come up with the temporal Cold War to explain,
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you know, the differences. Learn from your mistakes. Stay out of
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that era. Yeah, stay out of that. Leave it a ar area
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that we don't talk about much, right, and move on. Star Trek
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is about the future. Stop going backwards. Yeah, it's uh from your
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mouth to God's ears, Dan, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. Chasbis says
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bad Robot has ruined Trek. You know. The thing is, Simon Kinberg's
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is not bad Robot. He's he's being picked up by Paramount, so and
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on Paramount's not doing a great job with Trek either. Yeah, and and
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on paper, Simon's got a really good resume. Like he's worked on a
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lot of great franchises. So like he did some of the Mission Impossibles,
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I believe, he did some of the The X Men films, some of
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the good ones and some of the bad ones. He also did direct Bogglebs.
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So yeah, it's he's kind of hidd and miss you know, but
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this this is not the way, man, This is not a way at
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all. Look if you ask one hundred Trekkies or Trekkers in what era do
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you want them to start making movies and TV shows, They're all going to
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tell you post Picard, They're all going to tell you that that era.
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You might get some outliers. You might get some people that are in their
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sixties and seventies that say, oh, I you know Original Trak or whatever.
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Or you might get some people in their twenties and thirties who don't know
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much about the TNG era. But the vast majority of Star Trek fans want
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a continuation of the storyline from Pcard season three on. It doesn't even Mattter.
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It doesn't have to be same old characters. They can make a show
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that takes place in twenty four to two with a brand new crew and a
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brand new ship, a brand new captain that has nothing to do with any
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of them, that's out in the in the Beta Delta Gamma quadrant doing their
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own thing, but set it in twenty four oh two. Okay, am
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I wrong? No? They could, but they're not going to. Nope,
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And I'm pretty sure Chuck from Sobertis would agree with you, because uh,
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I'm gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna blow your mind. But Chuck
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from Sogertys, who had all the Star Trek on DVD and a lifetime subscription
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to Star Trek Online, does not like Star Trek Discovery that come on,
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come on, what's not to like? What's not to like? Well,
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oh, we'll get to that. I have my list the storyline, timeline,
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characters, character development or lack thereof. Well, let's talk about some
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Star Trek that people do like. Cut an update on The Orville. Yes,
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I was watching clips on The Orville yesterday. Perfect well bored is himself.
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Peter Macon gave an update and he is very excited. He says that,
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you know, basically, Seth MacFarlane is still very busy with all the
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different projects, but the Orville is not a dead stick, so there he's
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basically every time he talks to Seth it's still it's another thing that he really
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wants to do. He's he's very much passionate about it, still wants to
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make it happen, but just right now there's a lot of things going on.
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But you know, just in my conversations with him, it's very much
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alive and this is his world, so it's up to him. But I
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certainly would love to go back to it. So we'd love to see it
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back. Yeah, So to me, that's good news that that it's not
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like, well, I'm gonna just move on from it, you know,
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he's he's very much trying to do it. So yeah, well good huh.
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We'd love to see more Orville. Yeah. Even our last news story,
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it's just to quick. Well there's a couple of quick tidbits. So
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the Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Paramount and Charter Spectrum, that cable company,
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have come up with a new deal. So Paramount will still continue to be
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on Charter Cable. Apparently they were going to be blocked out, but they
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last minute came up with a new network network not in all the Paramount where
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you can see Yellowstone, not Paramount Plus. No, not as the network.
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It's just it's MTV, It's vh one, all the Paramount companies,
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Nickelodeon. So yeah, they were going to be kicked off Charter, but
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last minute they figured something out and so now they're good. But also it's
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going to bring Paramount Plus two Charter and Spectrum cable. So it looks like
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towards the end of the year you might be seeing some sort of integration with
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Paramount Plus as well. So on a cable like old school cable company,
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you can get a streaming service with it. So from from what I've seen
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before, in other services that have done something like this, they usually incorporate
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the on demand libraries into their demand cable. So like when you click the
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on demand channels, then you would find like maybe Discovery or you know,
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Young Sheldon or whatever, some paramo. You're coming around full circle. Yeah,
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that's a weird integration. It is going back in time and they're already
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bundling these services together. Yeah. Yeah, that was the other one.
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Comcast announced, We're just going to get to the point where you're gonna you're
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gonna be the streaming services are just gonna be another channel that you purchased through
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your cable company gonna and the prices are just gonna skyrocket. My, you
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know, the people in my mom's over but mom's apartments place, people are
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paying two hundred dollars a month for cable and internet and the prices are just
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going up. Yeah, you know, it's it's just it's ridiculous. Yeah,
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and there's there's not a whole lot you can do about it, because
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if you want to wat you know, typically if if you're not into streaming,
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and if you just want traditional you know TV, cable TV with the
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hundred channels or whatever, you're gonna be paying over one hundred bucks a month
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for it, right. But then if you want to get and we've talked
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about this before, if you want to get you know, I want to
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watch Star Trek, but I also want to watch Game of Thrones, and
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I also want to watch you know, this and that and the other thing.
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I've got to get three or four streaming services. Yeah, and hopefully
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they're bundled with some other cool things that I like, you know, who
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just posted about who just posted about commercials? Chasmins, chessmiss what do you
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say? And they're adding more commercials. Yes. So I did not see
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the newest Planet of the Apes yet. The other day I was rewatching uh,
24:45
one of the older ones sand and I saw I saw that it was
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on Hulu. Mhm, like, okay, so I watch it on Hulu.
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I'm like twenty minutes into the movie. Well send it stops and I'm
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watching a commercial. Yeah, I was like, what the hell is this
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now? Granted, maybe it's always been like this. I don't know.
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I don't think. I watch a lot of movies on Hulu. I used
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the Roku search feature and it told me that Hulu had it, and I
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just clicked one button and it took me to It took me to Hulu.
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But you know, yeah, that's the thing. I can tolerate commercials on
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a TV show, like if I'm sitting down to watch My Modern Family for
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commercials. But if I'm going to watch a movie, Okay, sometimes I
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just have it played in the background whatever. That's cool. But sometimes it's
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movie night and I want to sit the family down, make some popcorn,
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grab a couple of sodas, and sit down for a movie night. I
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don't want commercials for that movie night. I will pay I would rather pay
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five bucks to Amazon Prime or whatever to make sure it's commercial free because I
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don't want I don't want a commercial in the middle of my movie night.
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TV is shot a certain way. TV is shot so that the pacing is
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done in such a way that they leave a spot for a commercial. There's
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a natural place where that commercial belongs. Movies aren't like that. Well,
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even crazier is they because they sell their data to everyone, right, So
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they they track your online movements, so your streaming commercials are tailored to you,
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which is even nuttier. Right. So, like if you happen to
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search for I don't know, like I recently did, I was looking at
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microphones, all of a sudden, I'm getting commercials for, yeah, you
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know, shop microphones. Yeah. I'm not really mad at that part of
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of you know, advertising, because you know, I don't particularly I don't
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particularly have a need to see any tampon commercials. But you know, I
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wouldn't mind seeing you know, trek cast merch commercials, you know, so
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you got to pick your battles. So I don't mind the the you know,
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the customization of our advertising. So so here here's something funny that my
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brother in law was talking about yesterday. I guess there's a problem occurring with
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some of these AI systems in that they answer questions based on information that they
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scrub from the Internet. Okay, things such as a person asking a question
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and someone else answering that question, and the AI will look at that and
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think that this is the answer to this question. The problem is there are
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so many assholes on the Internet that are trolling each other. There's a lot
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of bad data out there, and sometimes the AI doesn't know the difference between
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So, you know, you see these reels of these tiktoks where it's yeah,
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clip, it's a clip from a movie. And if you ever look
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at the comments, there's a million people asking what movie is this from?
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Yeah, and there's a million and a half people giving the funniest, most
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ridiculous b s answer they can you know it's a guy, you know,
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it's a guy raping a woman, and they're like, oh, this is
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uh Willy Wonka. Yeah, you know I saw one. Somebody put yeah,
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somebody put a a clip a Planet of the Apes, and somebody put
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you know what movie is this? Somebody goes Dunstan checks in, Yeah,
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some jackass with the username New York Lombardo one seven one. It's like,
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I'm gonna skew these results. Yeah, well they was that. There was
28:37
an example that's going around recently. I guess Google just launched their AI search
28:41
results and somebody put like, how how can I make my cheese pizza stretchy
28:47
or whatever and put glue in it? Yeah? I mean that'll do it
28:53
well, you know, yeah, and then our last real quick news news
29:00
bit. So recently, Anton Mount went on social media and said that he
29:04
was hanging up his boots because he was wrapped for season three of Strange New
29:11
Worlds. So everyone thought, oh, they're done. They're not. He's
29:15
done. They're still filming some that he's not in probably the next They can't
29:22
be far behind him, No, exactly, that's all it is. They're
29:25
like a week or two away from being finished. But he himself is done.
29:27
Just everyone else probably working a long weekend or something. I don't know.
29:33
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the news. It's kind of like how
29:37
when this show is over, I just check out, and we've still got
29:40
a bunch of stuff to do. I gotta do all the editing and put
29:42
it all together. Check out. I mean, Daniel and I stay on
29:47
for like an hour, hour and a half after It's cool. That's right.
29:52
Well, should we get to our main topic. Yeah, I mean
29:55
it's eleven. Yeah, we should probably do that. Talk about Start fun
30:00
will now command all right to our main docic. We are reviewing Start Discovery
30:10
season five, episode nine, lagrange Point after Maw and the Brain have captured
30:14
the mysterious structure that contains the Janitor's power. Captain Burnham must lead a covert
30:19
mission to retrieve it from the brain and figure out how to use it.
30:25
Big think about this is it was directed by Riker himself, Jonathan Freaks.
30:32
That's sad because that means even Riker can't save this show. I was just
30:37
thinking that. I was thinking that while I was watching the show. I
30:41
was watching it, and I'm like, even even the original Strong Beard himself,
30:47
you know, I didn't I didn't know he directed this. And you
30:48
guys know, I loved me some Jonathan Frakes, but you know there's some
30:53
stuff in here that he knows better. Yeah, you know, and a
31:00
lot of it is I mean, some of it is some nitpicky, nitpicky
31:04
stuff, but and some of it's not. Like can I kind of point
31:11
something out that has been bugging me and I wanted to talk about for the
31:14
last couple of days. When when Book and Burnham are Okay, they're on
31:21
the Breen ship, they're wearing the Breen uniform, they're wearing the helmets.
31:26
Okay, this is a very tense time. They they are infilt infiltrating an
31:32
enemy ship. They are trying to stay as low key as possible. Time
31:37
time is of the utmost importance. They utmost important they are they are I
31:42
mean, there is no time to spare. They have to watch their backs.
31:45
This is a very tense gotta get the mission done critical time. Yet
31:51
they have the time to go like behind a wall and have a little talk
31:56
about their feelings. Let me write, I was I was angry at Jonathan
32:01
Frakes for that. So let me read this this from my notes Michael and
32:07
Burke, Michael and book working on their relationship while behind enemy lines. W
32:12
T. Yeah, that's I was angry about that. Yeah, that's my
32:15
note to myself because I was. I had anxiety while everybody was That's that's
32:21
an anxious thing to do. That's a that's a an anxious time, that's
32:25
an anxious mission. And I had anxiety every second they were on that ship
32:30
wearing those ridiculous helmets and and blending in and and and able to communicate.
32:37
That's the other ridiculous thing is that they're able to communicate to the other Green.
32:44
Now. I understand there's a translation thing, but you know, if
32:47
if I'm trying to Daniel if I'm trying to speak to you in Spanish,
32:52
bye, by translating English into Spanish using Google and then reading it, you're
32:59
gonna catch on right away because I'm not using the right inflections. I'm not
33:05
using the proper Spanish grammar. You know, You're just gonna catch on right
33:09
away. And the brain should have caught on right away too. Yeah,
33:15
there's a little more my nitpick as well, like come on, focus on
33:21
the mission. There's a little more going on there, because I think I'm
33:25
assuming that even the brain, their helmets are generating those sounds that's not their
33:31
voice. Possibly, No, I think you're right, But you know,
33:38
I bet the brains don't say things like but uh, you know, they
33:44
have different different uh grammar. Right, Yeah, yeah, you know.
33:52
I that that end of it, the technicality of how the translation works.
33:58
It's probably the least of my concern with it and everything. Yeah, you
34:01
know, there were other things that I had issues with. Yes, you're
34:07
right, let's let's have a heart to heart in the middle of a mission.
34:10
Yeah, that was he shouldn't even be there. I almost had an
34:15
anxiety attack when I saw that scene. Yeah, that that was not good.
34:20
I do like that they tried to go for a heist, I think
34:22
they they could have done a little bit more with that. I think the
34:27
the nuggets were there, they could have a little more Ocean eleven inspiration,
34:30
maybe a few more characters make it a little more interesting on how big of
34:35
a heist to do, Like you got to go here, and this has
34:37
got to go right and that, like all this, you know, just
34:42
string of things that need to go right in order for it to work right.
34:45
That could have been great. Also the idea of like, well let's
34:49
just ram their ship that what so always works out? Grace? Let me
34:59
ask you guys something, Yeah, which which side of the ship is the
35:04
left side? And which side is the right side? Is? Did you
35:08
catch did you catch that? No? So, when when Rainer is giving
35:15
a rundown on the repairs, he refers to the left the cell and the
35:22
right the cell, When have we ever called them left and right? Right?
35:29
Never? Never? There is no left and right on a ship.
35:32
There is port and there is starboard. Right. Go ahead, Yeah,
35:40
no left and right? Left and right? Now? When I you guys
35:45
know, I buy and sell vintage toys. I buy and sell parts for
35:52
vintage toys quite often and when I list, when I list apart for sale,
35:58
I am super specific because people are idiots. I say, this is
36:04
the left wing, also known as the port side wing. If it was
36:10
an American car, it would be the driver's side. Like I listed,
36:15
I listed three ways, so that there's no confusion whatsoever, because there are
36:21
people when you talk about a car and say left or right, there are
36:24
some people who will picture themselves standing in front of the car looking at the
36:28
windshield, and the left side would then be the passenger side. Not I'm
36:32
sitting. I am sitting in the car. The left side is the driver's
36:37
side. So the ice I've seen. Yeah. So the idea that a
36:42
career naval officer would would refer to the different sides of his ship as left
36:46
and right is and I know it sounds nitpicky, but no, yeah,
36:54
no, there is no left and right side of this. And these writers
36:57
know better, they should know better. And if the writers don't know better,
37:00
Jonathan Fraakes should know better. Yep, because he said port and starboard
37:07
his entire career. Exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So the idea
37:13
that no one, no one from like the actors right up through the editors
37:22
caught this mm it just bothers me. You know what it would have fixed
37:27
it is if I one of the forget it. Yeah, but what could
37:31
have fixed it? Would it would have been like just a real quick quizzical
37:36
look from like Tilly, like like if she maybe mouthed the word laughed,
37:40
you know, and then that would have been a kind of a funny thing.
37:45
It would have been like, oh, that was kind of cute.
37:45
Instead they yeah, it could have been yeah, something like that. Whatever,
37:52
They could have made it a little cute thing. Instead they just screwed
37:54
up. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I
38:00
hope you bring up some of these grievances to all the Star Trek people that
38:04
you make other things. When when when Burnham told the helmsman to cloak the
38:08
ship, the black alert sound came on and then and then she said,
38:15
let's jump. That's not how it works. That's the log the logic of
38:19
your own show says, you take the ship to black alert and then that
38:24
sound, which I actually like, as much as I hate this show,
38:29
around the black alert saying black alert and then everything, you know, the
38:32
lights come down and the sound I do enjoy when that happens. I think
38:37
we're about to have a rave. You know, let's go. But how
38:44
you know, how hard was it to say, help cloak the ship and
38:47
take us to Black Alert and then and then you hear the sound? How
38:52
difficult does that? Yeah, you are a correct sir. I agree with
39:01
you. Yeah, that all that said, I I had fun with the
39:08
episode. I thought it was you know, it wasn't the best. But
39:13
for what they're doing National Treasure, it's fine. Whatever it was, It's
39:17
just it just wasn't though. They find the tech, right, they finally
39:22
found the tech. They beat the brain there, they say, hey,
39:24
there's the tech. Great, and then they all stand around talking about it.
39:30
Right, they all stand around and talk about it. And while they're
39:34
talking about it, the Breen comes in. All right, they come out
39:38
of warp. The ship hasn't even slowed down yet, you know when they
39:42
come out of warp and they're just like cruising along right, yep, yep,
39:47
and you know, the Breen caps like, put a tractor beam on
39:50
that ship. Let's get it in here, let's go out of here.
39:53
Around everyone on Discovery is like, oh shit, we should have done that.
39:58
That was the fastest track Locke in Star Trek History. Hey, when
40:02
it's an emergency, that's what you do, right, That's what you do.
40:07
You don't stand there talking about it, right. And it's not like
40:10
Discovery didn't know that the brain were hot on their tails exactly. The thing
40:17
to me that was kind of funny. I know, you guys aren't Doctor
40:22
Who fans, But in Doctor Who, he's got the box the tartists that
40:27
he travels around in, right, And the joke on the on the tartis
40:30
is that it's bigger on the inside than the outside, right, because it's
40:35
an interdimensional portal that you walk into and all this stuff. So now they've
40:38
got a tartis that thing? Yeah, the blocks kind of cylinder that you
40:45
walk into and god knows how big it is inside. Yeah, So do
40:52
we have any guesses as to what the progenitor? Is it a recipe for
40:55
biscuits? Is it an unlimited power source? Is it I'm telling you it's
41:00
going to be friendship? Is it? Is it going to be part two
41:05
of the original Progenitor's message from you know, the chase from the Start Trek.
41:08
So they have set up that that both sides are now in that dimension,
41:14
right, and they're going to get a test where they have to work
41:17
together and then it's going to be friendship at the end. Who's in there
41:23
now, uh, Mall and Mall and burn and a couple of soldiers that
41:31
right, which which are just there to die. They're just there to die.
41:36
It's going to come down to Mall and Burnham is not. I know,
41:42
this is Star Trek Burnham. I understand that. I know that's what
41:45
they went for the entire time. She's not the most compelling character. You
41:49
know, put put put the ruin there with them. There you go.
41:52
But here's the thing. Okay, so the brain, the brain and the
41:55
humans have to learn how to cooperate and and be friends. Except that that's
42:00
not what's happening. There's two humans in there because you have you have a
42:05
pissed off human leading leading the brain. Which I'm sorry, that's dumb.
42:12
It's stupid. It's stupid. Yeah, it makes no sense. It's dumber
42:15
than Star Trek. It's dumber than when shins On commanded the Romulans. It
42:22
was dumb. Then it's jumped dumb. Now you know. I was thinking
42:29
about that and I was like, how would you fix this? And I
42:30
think I have an idea. I don't think it would totally fix it,
42:34
but at least it would make it more palable. Machine. Yeah I'll fix
42:37
maybe, Yeah, maybe this is still time. Yeah. You know when
42:43
when Paul Terry Betells when Locke was with his uncle and was like, uh,
42:49
the uncles giving him crap, and like those flashback scenes and and Maul
42:53
was kind of watching it happen. Mm hmm. You just need one of
42:57
the soldiers to be to like, you know, the uncle knocks him over
43:00
something like that. Soldier comes down, like helps him get up, and
43:02
he says, sir, anytime you want to take over, it's not just
43:07
me. There's a bunch of the men were ready to go behind you.
43:10
Yeah, something like that. The only the only other way, the only
43:15
other way I could see it is if she was pregnant with his child and
43:20
it was known, because then she's carrying royalty in her belly, right,
43:27
can you imagine? Well, first of all, a goo baby, I
43:31
mean well, first of all, they weren't goo babies until six weeks ago
43:37
decided they were good babies. So so if if if that's a storytelling hurdle,
43:45
that's a hurdle they set up for themselves. That's right, babies.
43:51
Six weeks ago, they were still furry creatures that needed to furry refrigeration suitseration
44:00
suits. Thank you God. I just hate this show. When is it
44:04
over you guys? You guys have a lot to celebrate next week. Oh
44:13
what's really funny is they want they want either myself or Dan to participate in
44:17
a like all star panel of all the podcasts where one representative comes on to
44:22
talk about the end of Discovery. And I'm kind of like, oh God,
44:27
are we going to be the only ones that are like, Okay,
44:29
here's the problems. Well, no, you guys are gonna have to do
44:32
your compliment shit sham sandwich and Dan you're gonna have to just really pull within.
44:42
Hey. I actually just just just just be quiet for that part.
44:46
Let Dan you'll do all the time. Yeah, yeah, you know,
44:50
I'm just gonna sit there quietly and think about how I want to be invited
44:53
back for check Long Island twenty five, right right right, I will be
44:59
there. Let Dan tap. Let Daniel tap dance over there. I will
45:01
be there. Yeah. He's from Idaho. They'll they'll expect that from him.
45:07
Yeah. Uh, just play with your phone, Dan, Is there
45:16
anything they can do in the in this serious finale next week? Is there
45:21
anything they can do too to make it wrap up in a good way?
45:25
Not a thing? Yeah, they've I said this in my quick reaction.
45:32
Uh this the show seems rushed and dragging out at the same time. So
45:40
you brought up the quick reactions? What is this? They get to trekkass
45:47
and it's just Dan with the legal bat and sunglasses and size says hear me
45:51
out. So you brought up you brought up quick reactions? Yeah I have.
46:02
I know it disappointed you, but I have not done a single quick
46:06
reaction this season. Every week I fully intend to do one, and then
46:15
I watched the show and I'm like, no, nobody's gonna want to hear
46:22
this. So Regor and Joyce and program, Yeah, that's that's the joke.
46:28
Everyone keeps saying. Yeah, yeah, there there's no cameo that can
46:31
make up for this. Also, the season was unnecessary. They they wrapped
46:37
it up quite nicely last season. Last season, the last episode of season
46:43
four felt like a serious FINALI right, and you know the season has just
46:52
been this. This would this would have made this entire season, would have
46:54
made a pretty cool two parter, you know, an okay two parter.
46:59
But yeah, we know how it's gonna end. It's gonna end with the
47:02
wedding or funeral. But you know, are they gonna do you think they'll
47:13
kill off Saru? No? No, No, here's what I think might
47:15
happen. And when I say this, tell me if you guys think I'm
47:19
right or wrong? Okay, Uh, Maul is going to somehow sacrifice herself
47:25
to save Locke, right, but seeing that that love is going to make
47:31
Burnham want to go back to book. They go to the wedding, they're
47:36
in love, they're happy, they're together, they're seeing Seru get married,
47:40
and they're like, scirt. Double wedding. No, you know what,
47:50
I'd be upset. God, I'd be upset if a double wedding if I
47:55
cared about those characters. But I don't. Uh. Oh wow, Chas
48:05
boyed me. That's yeah, no thanks, double wedding electric boogle. Okay,
48:20
so we got Daniel's prediction. Do any of you guys have any legitimate
48:24
predictions about what the secret? That is my legitimate prediction. I could Okay,
48:30
I think what happened on the c W that's what would happen. Yeah,
48:37
yeah, uh, what about main characters? Any main character is gonna
48:40
die bock. I think Rainer is either going to Rainer's gonna be the new
48:53
captain. He's either going to be the new captain or he's going to save
49:00
everyone and sacrifice himself. And he's going to be posthumously promoted to captain.
49:06
Again, They're not gonna They're not gonna They're not going to bury him as
49:08
a commander. There's going to be a speech about how he embodies all of
49:13
the qualities of a star fleet captain and I only wish we realized that all
49:20
along. And for that reason, we're promoting him posthumously, and the you
49:28
know, we're creating the Rainer or Metal for Valor or whatever stuffing like that.
49:32
I don't think they've ever uh promoted anybody posthumously on Trek. Maybe Harry
49:43
Kim when he finally goes to become a lieutenant junior grade. Yeah, yeah,
49:49
finally. He always wanted this because I was thinking about lower decks the
49:55
TNG episode, you know, and so Cito Jackson was lost and they promoted
50:05
that other guy. I mean, they made a point of showing his promotion
50:07
right, so they didn't promote her posthumously. Well we also we also didn't
50:13
see her funeral. We saw her that's true, her death announcement, her
50:17
death announcement. Yeah, so maybe they have. Maybe they haven't in the
50:22
books. I haven't read all the books, so yeah, I don't know.
50:28
I don't know. I'm wondering if there is after the wedding past forward
50:34
ten years and we see Burnham and books kid in at Starfleet University Academy whatever.
50:39
Stop stop just stop. So if you remember the episode the chase they
50:46
talked about when the Progenitor's recording, they talked about them seating the galaxy with
50:52
life, and they've meant I don't think they mentioned it in the episode,
51:00
but the producers have mentioned on numerous occasions that this was done to kind of
51:07
explain why the majority of Star Trek aliens have two arms, two legs,
51:15
two eyes, one nose, one mouth, two ears, and most of
51:20
them look relatively human, right because they were all seated from the same primordial
51:27
goo and they all can have babies with each other. Yes, the now
51:34
that we know, now that we know about bring anatomy and how they are
51:40
liquid people, and they teamed up with the Founders, who were a different
51:46
type of liquid people. Well, they obviously weren't seeded from the progenitors.
51:54
So maybe we will learn about some other race of people that was around at
52:02
the same time as the progenitors, and maybe they they seeded a different part
52:07
of the galaxy and that's where the brain are from, and that's where the
52:10
founders come from. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.
52:20
I think it's funny that we've made all these predictions, but we've never said,
52:24
well, here's what the technology is going to do, other than I
52:29
just think it's friendship. Like, what do you guys think the technology is
52:36
oven liss biscuits. Yeah, it feels like it's not going to really be
52:40
anything, doesn't it. Imagine if the imagine if the the uh, the
52:45
progenitors just got it wrong. Yeah, like, please accept this gift of
52:51
replicated technology, and they're like replicating we've got We've had this ship for six
52:55
hundred years, right, We've been running all over the place looking for the
52:59
blueprints for applicator. I'm going home. Yeah, Yeah, I'm afraid it's
53:04
just going to be like you know, message number two and oh, by
53:07
the way, we hope that everybody can live in peace and harmony, and
53:10
that's how we sort of designed it. That's why I'm saying it's friendship.
53:14
I hope you guys. I also wonder if if there's to me, it'd
53:23
be weird not to include the original actress that played the original progenitor. She
53:30
also was the original. She was also the female changelinge. And I know
53:35
she's in her early eighties now, but you know, you know, Judy
53:40
Dench still act acts, so so does Patrick Stewart. So does Patrick Stewart.
53:45
Yeah, so I wonder if you know, and with makeup and you
53:47
know, as long as her voice hasn't gotten too crappy. Yeah, that's
53:52
what I'm hoping to see. I'm hoping to see her, I hope.
53:57
So that'd be cool. It'd be a nice little nod, you know.
54:00
But mm hmm, I don't know. We we only got one more episode
54:07
and then and then it's over. It's not over the way you said.
54:16
That's not damn man, it's not. I thought that pain in my soul.
54:22
It's not over because this Starfleet Academy show is just going to be more.
54:28
It's going to be more of this, and I don't know if I
54:32
can take it. Yeah, I really don't. I love doing this show,
54:38
but you've had it. Well, here's the thing, you know,
54:44
I do this show because I love Star Trek. But when when it gets
54:51
to the point where I don't love Star Trek, what's the point of doing
54:55
this show? No, yeah, I get it. Now. We still
55:00
have we still have strange new worlds. You know, we still have lower
55:07
decks for now. Yeah, we got the section thirty one. Damn,
55:13
Chas is already. Yeah, it's fine, it's Dan. You and I
55:17
have to watch our backs. Yeah, he's coming for you guys. But
55:24
it's like this is the same Chad. Yeah. Oh man, I would
55:34
have the FBI knock it out my door, you know, kidding, no
55:37
kidding, Alright, I'm just saying we're gonna need some supplementals in there.
55:44
Excited. Yeah, I got some ideas for that. So yeah, me
55:49
too. Yeah. I've had some people come up to me saying uh or
55:53
email saying that they want another Starship draft. Apparently that episode has gotten very
55:58
popular, just as people have listened in the back, which one is that
56:01
where that's the one where we Yeah, yeah, I've never done I've never
56:07
done it. Draft our own starship from different characters from other franchises. Yeah,
56:13
that's the one. People are like, ooh, that's a cool idea.
56:15
I really like that. Yeah, yeah, I'd love to do that.
56:20
I've never been a part of that, so I've been part of Dan's
56:24
crew. That's true. Yes, that's right. You drafted me as your
56:31
engineer might Yeah, that's right. Yeah about that. Yeah that was fun.
56:45
Oh yeah, we done talking about. Yeah, let's let's get to
56:49
let's get to feedback. Okay, listener feedback. I'm wearing my uh,
56:58
look at that the d I'm wearing the uh N c C T shirt.
57:05
Yeah, in my long line of Star Trek shirt segment. Nice, Hey,
57:13
be be careful. I think you're about to knock the Voyager crew off
57:15
the wall behind it. Oh yeah, I just watched the watch. There
57:22
you go. Yeah, that picture does not want to stay straight. No
57:25
it doesn't. All right, we got we got Hipster Spock on the line,
57:31
so let's bring him on. There you go, Hipster spocky there?
57:37
Yes, hello, hey, hello, Hey, it's been a long road.
57:45
I should have turned if I can't be with the change in the wind.
57:52
Right now, nothing is in my way that's awesome. Hey, let's
58:00
leave the scene to Dan karaoke. Guys get that point yeah, oh yeah,
58:13
yeah, just stopping by and say hello, and yeah, you guys
58:19
are always like on point on, like what's going on and uh. And
58:24
that's why I listen to this podcast more than the others, because every other
58:30
all the other podcasts are very like they've drunken so much kool aid and and
58:38
so they don't know what's up from down. Yeah, and but this podcast,
58:44
you know, you guys keep it real and that Hey, hey,
58:50
hey hipster Spock, there's no U, there's no up and down. It's
58:53
ventral and dorsal. There you go. So yeah, I'll be tuning in
59:07
next week to see how it ends and your guys take on it and stuff.
59:13
So when you say how it ends, do you mean our show,
59:21
like this big mystery about discovery? Right? I mean it's it cannot end
59:30
soon enough. But we've been saying forever that's true, that's true. We'll
59:36
see, we'll see, all right. Maybe they might even surprise us with
59:42
one or two things. Maybe if Paddington shows up next week. I mean
59:46
to be the best show saved. It's all shows saved. That's right.
59:52
He's handing out marmalite sandwiches everybody. It'll be great, awesome, keep up
59:57
the good job, guys, thank you. All right. We also have
1:00:05
got Chasbis on the line there he is. Oh, look at that.
1:00:09
Now you got new march. So I was like, damn it, I
1:00:16
could have got it chipped instead of two weeks it took to get this merch.
1:00:20
I know, guys, guy Flegman, I get that reference. Yeah.
1:00:27
Yeah, so there you go. There's the new merch. Where to
1:00:31
get me a new shirt? Yeah, and the hats and there's gonna be
1:00:36
more stuff coming out in the next couple of weeks, so yeah, sweet.
1:00:40
Yeah. Also, Chas Biz, if you get a knock at the
1:00:44
door and there's a white van outside, just just go with the gentleman,
1:00:47
Okay, don't don't struggle. It's better not to fight it. Yeah,
1:00:52
don't slight it. It's chucking from Sogertes with his I just gotta check some
1:00:59
ball in the side, yep, because you just got put on a list.
1:01:04
So we still have to see thought of that. We still haven't seen
1:01:09
Chad. I'm not legally allowed to talk about Chad on the show, so
1:01:17
my attorneys have made that quite clear. Are you going on the Star Trek
1:01:22
cruise next year or oh man, we haven't thought that far in advance.
1:01:29
Well, you've got to book a fart in advance, because I know you
1:01:31
do have to book it far in advance. We should talk about like doing
1:01:36
a Star Trek cruise in like twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven, like
1:01:39
far enough advance where we can all save up and get our ducks in a
1:01:43
row and we'll have to learn how to swim. You could go to Europe
1:01:45
first class for the price of a Star Trek cruise. So they're not cheap.
1:01:52
Yeah, they're not cheap. My wife has been wanting to go on
1:01:54
one. So you know, I don't know how I feel about cruise.
1:02:00
I've never been on one before. Yeah, so have I My dad and
1:02:05
brother go and like they've been on like two or three in the last few
1:02:07
years and they love it. Yeah, it's really fun. Been to one
1:02:10
in Hawaii and then I've been you know, Caribbean and all that we're going
1:02:15
to. We're going to the Caribbean next month. Don't do uh, you
1:02:20
know, one of the cheap ones do like a good ship? Sure,
1:02:22
we're doing. We're doing Royal Caribbean. It's one of the older ships.
1:02:27
But yeah, you know it's all right. That was the one I didn't
1:02:34
like. It was like that just is late to the show. Just wanted
1:02:39
to say that Book Burnham relationship therapy you've seen it during the Undercover premission is
1:02:44
the dumbest thing I've seen in all of TV. Oh, we didn't.
1:02:46
We didn't talk about that at all. Yeah. Well, they did the
1:02:52
stupid Iron Man suit, you know, where you have all the you know
1:02:55
what. I didn't hate that. I didn't love it, but I didn't
1:02:59
hate it. But they got on there too easy and like everybody's just stupid,
1:03:04
like shoot helmet. Yeah, and was the scene where they have a
1:03:14
lock like his body right there in the cargo bay, so everything takes place
1:03:20
in the cargo bay and this whole show. That's right, that's the one
1:03:22
set they have. Yeah, it's just the cargo bay. There's no bridge,
1:03:27
nothing, it's just the brain should have known they were on board right
1:03:30
away. Just any interaction it again, I'll bring it back to because Jade,
1:03:37
who was at the mention that didn't it'd be like, okay, Daniel,
1:03:42
if you and I were in Mexico and we both had mass mass on
1:03:45
and I walked up to you and I said, don't destala Biblioteca. Oh
1:03:52
yeah, yeah, what would you would you go? I'd be like,
1:03:57
you're not clearly that man is native. He is, Yes, he's right
1:04:00
exactly, so you would call me out so fast. So you're telling this
1:04:05
story and I can't help but picture both of you and Daniel dressed as luchadors
1:04:13
wear masks. Nobody could see her face. Daniel's speaking perfect Spanish, and
1:04:18
you're you know, you got broken and I'm coming out worth Spanish almost.
1:04:30
I just told you the two sentences of the Spanish I actually do. So
1:04:38
did you guys catch the scene where? Okay, so they're they're discussing who
1:04:43
should go on this away mission, whether it should be Ensigntall or Stamit's okay,
1:04:50
whether it should be a deer or or Paul, And I get I
1:04:56
get that current star Trek is perwoke and they want to use non traditional pronouns
1:05:04
and whatnot. I get that, But then you know they're going back and
1:05:10
forth about who should go on this this mission, and then I don't know
1:05:15
if it was Rainer whoever asks Tilly yeah, and Tilly says I think they
1:05:20
can do it, or I think they can handle it, referring to Adira.
1:05:26
Okay, so I guess that you want to use her preferred pronouns,
1:05:29
except when you watch the scene they refer to who is she referring to oh
1:05:38
yeah, because it could be the group yeah, it could be stand yes
1:05:43
yeahs. And the thing is, I think, why would you put it,
1:05:47
because like maybe I can do it, I don't know if I can,
1:05:51
And she's all nervous and like, you're doing this most important job right
1:05:56
now. You want somebody that's confident in their job and set up be like,
1:06:00
I don't know, guys, let's let's I did like that moment between
1:06:05
Clover and Stanments where they're kind of like nervous for a deer, but then
1:06:10
they you know, try to tell thee all right, it's cool, like
1:06:15
to know that a deer should not have gone that that, except they're they're
1:06:19
they're not they're not her parents though, right, I've never bought I've never
1:06:26
bought that. I've never bought that dynamic that they that they tried to portray
1:06:30
that that these three people have somehow become a family. They're not. They're
1:06:34
not a family. They've known each other for like a year at this point,
1:06:41
and they've been pretending to be a family for like eleven months at this
1:06:45
point. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean I I believe it
1:06:51
just because like people adopt kids, right, and you have an adopted a
1:06:55
kid for a few months, doesn't mean that's not your kid. You know
1:06:59
you've adopted him, but it's not a kid. Well, a Deer was
1:07:05
younger when they first arrived on the ship, but the character was what early
1:07:11
teens. I think the problem is with the show is they didn't build her
1:07:15
up like with those two. Like the other series would have built her up
1:07:19
or a Deer up for several years. There would have been a build up
1:07:25
them be like, yes, I get it. That is one of the
1:07:28
problems with the show is that they don't build things up. They just tell
1:07:30
you, like me, coming out of the show, there was a build
1:07:33
ups all right. So in season two of TNG, when Doctor Crusher disappeared
1:07:42
and went back to Starfleet Academy and Wesley stayed on the ship without her mom,
1:07:47
we believed it because at that point he had been living on that ship
1:07:51
for a year. He had built relationships with everyone in that ship for a
1:07:57
year, so it was believable that he would stay behind and the people on
1:08:01
that ship would would care for him. She was on this ship for a
1:08:08
couple of weeks and now they're her dad's. Yeah, it just doesn't.
1:08:15
It confuses you. It makes sense because I'm confused, Like, I just
1:08:20
wish they would a character build on this show and that that's that's the main
1:08:25
issue with the show. Yeah, but you can't when you'll have when you'll
1:08:28
have ten episodes. Ye yeah, and it's one continuous story. Yeah,
1:08:32
you can't do it one main character. You don't have. Well, you
1:08:38
can character build, but the problem is you need to restructure the way you
1:08:43
handle scenes. You can't. Strange Worldso has ten episodes and they can do
1:08:47
it, right. That's that's what I was going to say. And a
1:08:49
lot of other shows they do that. Okay, but that but that okay,
1:08:57
there's a difference with Strange New Worlds when a new episodes, those are
1:09:00
self contained stories for the most part. Correct when a new episode starts,
1:09:05
you can assume that last week's episode was not five minutes ago. In the
1:09:11
timeline of the show. Okay, so the Strange New Worlds. At at
1:09:15
the end of a ten episode season of Strange New Worlds, maybe three months
1:09:19
has passed. At the end of a ten episode season of Discovery, seven
1:09:26
days has passed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And speaking of
1:09:31
restructuring, I was gonna say, can we talk about the fact that there's
1:09:35
only three or four main characters left on Discovery. They've quietly gotten rid of
1:09:43
everybody. Yeah. I was going to bring that up, the the Ops
1:09:47
and the person Ops and the person oft Cohn. Yeah, they went off
1:09:51
with the Enterprise, So yeah, Debt, Yeah, Enterprise and Makin at
1:10:04
the end, and even Stammit's in his and his husband, they don't have
1:10:09
a lot of scenes, that's true. What's what's your theory? So we
1:10:18
talked a few weeks ago about how the Enterprise is going to swoop in at
1:10:23
the end and and save the day. But this week we found out that
1:10:28
they're they're sending Seru into the belly of the Beast in nothing but a shuttlecraft.
1:10:33
So I think it's going to be the Enterprise is going to rescue Seru
1:10:38
because the rest of the fleet is is going to be stranded somehow in his
1:10:44
little shuttle. The rest of the fleet is going to be engaging the Breen,
1:10:47
and it's going to be the Enterprise that's been limping back to Starfleet Command.
1:10:51
They're going to divert and go get Saru, except the Enterprise is a
1:10:57
nine hundred year old uns he thy ship. Yes, yes, we discussed
1:11:02
this last week, or maybe I don't know if I talked about in the
1:11:05
show, or I don't know if I talked about it in the show,
1:11:10
or if I put something in the Facebook group. But it's like, it's
1:11:13
like the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria coming to the rescue of
1:11:17
the US is Gerald Ford. Yeah, I think that was just a thought
1:11:26
you had when you were angry meditating. Yeah, no, no, no,
1:11:30
it must be in the It must have been in the Facebook group.
1:11:32
Yeah, sure, the Facebook. Who angry meditates? I think Dan does
1:11:40
instead of like I can just picture him standing outside on his back porch with
1:11:49
the sun rising, just just standing with his eyes closed, going getting ready
1:11:56
for the day burn him. A dog comes up and says, the wedding
1:12:02
will be on the Enterprise on Discovery. Yeah, it's gotta be on Discovery.
1:12:10
Yeah, and this wedding, Like they didn't even build that up.
1:12:13
Like I didn't even care about this wedding. I did not get my through
1:12:15
bachelor party. Well, yeah, it was like you had a bachelor party
1:12:19
on d S nine and it was hilarious. That's great. I mean they
1:12:24
all got beaten. And maybe Q will show up or Tree Lane. Oh
1:12:29
yeah, Tree Lane's gonna show up. They're gonna do a call back to
1:12:30
the original series. But he will be a tree truly, won't turn into
1:12:35
an actual tree. Tree label turn into an actual tree. Yes. What
1:12:40
did you care about the Discovery going into the shuttle Bay the way they did
1:12:45
it? Yeah, because sometimes you just have to punch your way through its
1:12:50
explaining it and then you know we're gonna do this and then till he goes,
1:12:56
oh ship like that you're on the bridge, your bridge officer. Yeah,
1:13:02
that's a good idea, sir, Not ship ms so stupid. The
1:13:09
power of math, the power of mat math is not wrong. There's very
1:13:15
there's yeah, there's math involved, but you know that that that maneuver did
1:13:24
not have a Heisenberg compensator. They can't they can't account for all the crap
1:13:29
that can go wrong. Yeah, it was. It was kind of sloppy.
1:13:34
It was cool. I'm not it was a cool kind of but it's
1:13:38
kind of if you ran a ship into a good person in their liquid form,
1:13:43
do you kill them or did they just kind of splatter everywhere and reconnect?
1:13:46
And did they send them to the oil bathod book? You know,
1:13:50
yeah, you got you gotta watch the ship. Watch get a little good
1:13:57
person right there. You can clean that off. I mean, it kind
1:14:00
of reminded me of the scene in Star Trek into Darkness. Didn't they kind
1:14:03
of ram a ship with another ship on the surface of a planet. I
1:14:06
think they did that pretty much one of those right, Yeah, they did
1:14:12
that in a Nemesis ram the ship, ram it into another ship? Who
1:14:17
doesn't who doesn't love you know what? Didn't ram another ship into another ship?
1:14:24
The d You never saw the d ramming anything you have tried. It
1:14:33
rammed the planet, that's right, they did ram the planet. Yeah,
1:14:39
and then you know they dressed as a brain. And then I put she's
1:14:44
also an asshole as a brain, so yeah, yeah, because she's you
1:14:51
know, I don't know, all right, all right about this, it's
1:14:56
just it and it's the small and Burnham are gonna fight it out. Yeah,
1:15:03
and then mal will probably surrender and realize she's wrong, and then she
1:15:09
can't get locked back, and then I don't know, killing a bred is
1:15:15
like a bug on the windshield, goose flat, goose flat. It's gonna
1:15:18
be like babies, all right, it's gonna be completely green and grosser.
1:15:25
I think we lost Dan already, yep, yeah, all right, all
1:15:30
right, well let's let's wrap it up. Anybody watched Fieryosa now I'm gonna
1:15:36
go see it later today. That's good. So okay, yeah, that
1:15:41
the Mad Max Mad Max saga or whatever? Yeah, matter Max, what
1:15:48
the lady? That's right? Pretty cool? Cool? Anything else you want
1:15:53
to bring up your just biz, well that's it. You know, how
1:15:57
are you guys gonna do a showing next week with Yeah? Yeah, we've
1:16:00
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1:16:05
let you know when we're gonna do it. We're still trying to figure out
1:16:09
the timing on that. But yeah, well yeah, a different times.
1:16:13
Am I invited to that show? Of course? Of course? Yeah?
1:16:17
Yeah, I'm not just gonna turn out my feed and say, oh they
1:16:20
did a show already, Right, I'm just guy Fleigmann, you know,
1:16:27
remember that guy again. So yeah, all right, thanks, gonna be
1:16:31
startled if you get a knock at the door, Chas biz, I'll go
1:16:36
quietly and put me in a straight jacket. Yeah, don't worry that.
1:16:45
The crazy hospital is about four miles away. So okay, my wife there,
1:16:53
so right, all right, all right, well so one more episode
1:17:03
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that's right. Yeah. Absolutely. I found out that the Amityville House
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1:17:31
the people that live there. Yeah, I'm gonna pick up a demon.
1:17:33
It'll be great. Yeah. Well, give everybody my best and tell
1:17:38
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