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The Muster Full Show: 01/10/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. I'm
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Speaker 1: Andy Mioa. The show is brought to you by Petersonetics.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for your company. Straight into it this afternoon. As
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Speaker 1: you heard on the country just previously, the government has
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Speaker 1: decided to declare the conditions down in the south as
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Speaker 1: a medium-scale adverse event. What this basically means is there's
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Speaker 1: going to be extra support for farmers and growers, up
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Speaker 1: to $ 50, 000 will go to the Southland and Otago Rural
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Speaker 1: Support Trusts to provide more help on the ground, including
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Speaker 1: recovery and wellbeing events like the Brunch on Us events
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Speaker 1: which are going on, concluding this week actually. MPI are
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Speaker 1: saying they're going to work with regional staff, going to
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Speaker 1: work with Dairy NZ, Beef and Lamb Regional Councils, and
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Speaker 1: Local Rural Support Trust to help farmers on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Farmers and growers, if any issues, you're encouraged to contact
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Speaker 1: the Rural Support Trust on 0800 787 2.254. Any concerns
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Speaker 1: regarding animal welfare, call MPI 0800 008383. So that's news
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Speaker 1: just come through from the government. The music today, we
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Speaker 1: carry on. This is Michael Lee Aday, also known as Meatloaf.
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Speaker 2: Hakanui's five-day forecast with Twin Farm, Tehran and Softex. The
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Speaker 2: proof is in the progeny.
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Speaker 1: And it's four years since Meatloaf passed away. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: we continue on with the weather. Not too bad over
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Speaker 1: the next seven days. Today, cloudy with breezy north westerlies
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Speaker 1: and a high of 16. Tomorrow, rain with westerlies, 6
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Speaker 1: and 15. But that's the only blip on the radar
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Speaker 1: that I can see for a few days. Saturday, cloudy
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Speaker 1: with light south westerlies, the donut and 12. Maybe a
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Speaker 1: frost there, but still getting up to 12 degrees. Sunday,
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Speaker 1: sunny with... like Westerlies, 4-16 and Monday. Sunshine, love that,
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Speaker 1: with calm variable winds, 6-17. Soil temperatures, full board this afternoon,
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Speaker 1: Clinton 8.2, Heriot 9.3, Northern South 9.5, Riverton 11.3, Te
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Speaker 1: Arau 9.8, Tinaroa 10.3, Winton 9.8 and Woodlands 9.5. Get
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Speaker 1: the other bit of paper. There's stuff everywhere. It's been
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Speaker 1: mayhem here for the last 15 minutes. Anyway, we're starting
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Speaker 1: off the hour with Brenton Howden, farming over at Benmore.
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Speaker 1: Last time we caught up with Howdy, he had the
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Speaker 1: drone out. He was in the lead into lambing. Let's
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Speaker 1: see how it's all unfolded over near Benmore. Anika Templer,
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Speaker 1: dairy farming at Balfour's on the show as well. Claire
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Speaker 1: Teetenberg from Beef and Lamb New Zealand. Beef and Lamb
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Speaker 1: with their events that are going on at the moment
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Speaker 1: as well. So Claire just gives the rundown on what's
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Speaker 1: happening on that side of things. Andrew Tripp talking the
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Speaker 1: Whiskey Creek Challenge. If you've got a bit of energy
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Speaker 1: coming up in a couple of weeks and feel like
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Speaker 1: doing a run for 24 hours, well, here's your perfect opportunity.
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Speaker 1: There are other shorter courses available, not just 24 hours.
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Speaker 1: and our resident sporting guru, Nathan Burden. Dave Morrison of
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Speaker 1: PDG Wrightson gives a rundown on these stock prices out
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Speaker 1: of Charlton that occurred this morning. We'll crank into it
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Speaker 1: after that with Brenton Howden. This is The Muster, brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Peters Genetics, seven and a half after one.
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Speaker 1: I want you. I want you.
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Speaker 3: I need you.
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Speaker 1: I need you. Brenton Howden farms over at Benmore and
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Speaker 1: joins us this afternoon on the muster. Howdy. Good afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Last time we spoke to you, you were on drone
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Speaker 1: patrol doing the lambing beat before the season kicked off proper.
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Speaker 1: I dare say that drone's been put away and you've
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Speaker 1: been out in the fields and the trenches.
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Speaker 4: G'day, Andy. Yeah, no, I don't know that they go
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Speaker 4: too well in the rain. I didn't try that. But,
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Speaker 4: you know, it hasn't been out for a while now.
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Speaker 4: It's just been me myself having to go out there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so over there at Benmore, you're between Dipton and
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Speaker 1: Winton as such. How have things been over the past
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Speaker 1: four weeks?
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Speaker 4: It's certainly been wet, but I don't think it's been
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Speaker 4: as bad as some people. We had 170 mil for
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Speaker 4: the month. Yeah, there's been some bigger numbers than that about.
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Speaker 4: It's been all right. I guess we're just used to
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Speaker 4: it three years in a row. It's just water off
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Speaker 4: a duck's back, if you want. Yeah, you just get
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Speaker 4: out there and get it done. But it's, yeah, some
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Speaker 4: paddocks that definitely need a bit of wind and a
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Speaker 4: bit of sunlight on them to dry them out.
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Speaker 1: So you're almost resigned to the fact that September was
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Speaker 1: going to be what it was going to be?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I told you last time I thought
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Speaker 4: it was going to be because we'd had a couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks of wetness and I thought, oh, I can
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Speaker 4: see us coming. And, yeah, it certainly delivered. But, yeah,
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Speaker 4: as I was saying to you before, I think, like...
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Speaker 4: bit of resilience has been built into the flock after
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Speaker 4: the last couple of years. And I think it's pretty
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Speaker 4: bad at the moment. I think maybe in five, 10
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Speaker 4: years time, we'll look back and go, you know, those
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Speaker 4: three years are actually really, really good to our flocks.
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Speaker 4: Back in the day when, back in the day when
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Speaker 4: we used to have good lambings, you'd have two or
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Speaker 4: three storms during that time. And, you know, that was
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Speaker 4: the end of the world. You'd go out and pick
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Speaker 4: up 20 or 20, 30, 40 dead lambs the next day.
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Speaker 4: Now it's been a storm every night and, some days
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Speaker 4: I'd be lucky to pick up four or five so
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Speaker 4: yeah definitely the ewes are definitely used to it and
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Speaker 4: lambs are definitely surviving better.
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Speaker 1: So the genetics comes into play?
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Speaker 4: Yeah I think so and just that natural selection like
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Speaker 4: the two deuce this year they were born in 2024
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Speaker 4: so if they survive that they've definitely got a bit
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Speaker 4: of survivability in them and the ewes that are a
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Speaker 4: bit slack at getting lambs up off their feet well
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Speaker 4: they've definitely all been had their heads cut off in
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Speaker 4: the last two years and probably the last cohort of
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Speaker 4: them will get it done this year so Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What's it like for shelter on your farm over there, Brenton?
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Speaker 1: You've got a couple of different areas of land, one
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Speaker 1: either side of the main highway there towards the river
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Speaker 1: and the other one not so much. But is shelter
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Speaker 1: a big part of your farm?
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Speaker 4: Not really. There's the old flax shelter bouts. There's no
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Speaker 4: big hedge lines. It can be a little bit exposed.
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Speaker 4: I think shelter can be a bit of a double-edged sword,
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Speaker 4: like where there is a bit of shelter and a
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Speaker 4: flax line, it can be an absolute disaster to turn
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Speaker 4: up there and there's five or six sets of twins
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Speaker 4: and born in the mud and it's, yeah, it's, I
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Speaker 4: don't know, I'm not convinced on shelter really but there's
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Speaker 4: bits and pieces and there's a bit of natural shelter
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Speaker 4: with the way the hills roll and that so it's
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Speaker 4: not too bad. It's not completely bare and open but, yeah,
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Speaker 4: there's just enough really.
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Speaker 1: Interesting you say that regarding shelter. Do you think perhaps
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Speaker 1: because everything just goes to the one area and that's
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Speaker 1: when the mayhem unfolds?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does I think. They all congregate up behind
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Speaker 4: those hedges or along those flat hedge lines, and yeah,
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Speaker 4: it can be an absolute disaster. So that sort of
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Speaker 4: pays to fence them off if they're a problem area,
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Speaker 4: and yeah.
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Speaker 1: So the immediate area around you, Howdy, is it very
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Speaker 1: similar rainfall numbers, or is it a case of being microclimatic,
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Speaker 1: and it varies?
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Speaker 4: I think it varies. Quite often we were up on
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Speaker 4: the hill and looking down, and the winter and head
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Speaker 4: choke looked like they were getting it sometimes, and we weren't,
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Speaker 4: and then sometimes it was going the other way, going west,
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Speaker 4: and Yeah, so I think it does depend on the area.
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Speaker 4: I was talking to some people just above me and
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Speaker 4: they've had way less than I've had. So it's definitely
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Speaker 4: area specific.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people contemplating the September farming programme now.
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Speaker 1: You know, famously Henry Buckingham had him on the show
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He's just starting lambing in
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Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Is moving lambing dates something
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Speaker 1: you consider or just a case of case-a-ra-sa-ra?
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Speaker 4: Well, I've I've been slowly pushing it back over the
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Speaker 4: last few years. When I first came back to the farm,
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Speaker 4: I think it was the 23rd or 25th of August,
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Speaker 4: and decided to make a change about four or five
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Speaker 4: years ago, and I've just slowly pushed it to the,
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Speaker 4: what are we this year, the 7th. I think I'll
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Speaker 4: probably go to the 10th next year. It's more a
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Speaker 4: feed thing than a weather thing. Like, I don't know,
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Speaker 4: three bad years in a row is probably not enough
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Speaker 4: to guarantee and say that September's are going to be
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Speaker 4: shit from now on, so... Maybe if I'm talking to
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Speaker 4: you in this time, three years' time, and it's been
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Speaker 4: another three years' shit runs, I'd say most of Southam
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Speaker 4: would have shipped it October. But, yeah, I hope that
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Speaker 4: goes well for Henry because we need a good October
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Speaker 4: to fix what's happened in September. But it could easily
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Speaker 4: be a rough October and a nice September, couldn't it?
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Speaker 1: How's your feed levels looking?
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Speaker 4: They're OK in places. We've got some paddocks that are
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Speaker 4: really good and some are a bit tight. The ones
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Speaker 4: that are a bit tight are more the wetter ones than...
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Speaker 4: Just a matter of going around and just counting ewes
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Speaker 4: in each paddock and just pushing a few more to
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Speaker 4: the better ones and taking a few out of the
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Speaker 4: ones that haven't got as much and just sort of
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Speaker 4: moving stuff around. We'll just put a couple of mobs
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Speaker 4: of ewes out on the river where it's a bit
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Speaker 4: dry and there's a bit of pucker out there. Just
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Speaker 4: give their paddocks a bit of a rest and I'll
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Speaker 4: get a wee bit more urea on in the next
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Speaker 4: week or so if the conditions dry up. Yeah, shouldn't
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Speaker 4: be too bad.
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Speaker 1: Have a stock come through? Not too bad, all things considered?
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Speaker 4: The ewes?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the ewes are looking not too bad, and the
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Speaker 4: lambs are looking pretty good too. We tailed a mob
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Speaker 4: of earlies that lambed at the start of August at
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Speaker 4: the weekend, and I was very surprised at how well
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Speaker 4: the lambs looked. Just, you know, we've just been in
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Speaker 4: this rough weather for the last four weeks. I thought
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Speaker 4: they might have taken a bit of a check, but
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Speaker 4: they looked really good, and the ewes weren't too bad.
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Speaker 4: I think the ewes have probably copped it a little bit.
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Speaker 4: They've been putting it into the lambs, so that's what
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Speaker 4: you want. Yeah, but overall, ewes are looking all right. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: they came out of the winter pretty good, and even
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Speaker 4: though I thought I was a bit tight, yeah, they
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Speaker 4: wintered quite well, so yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, lamb covers has been the topic of conversation for
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and for everybody being told in
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Speaker 1: this day and age that plastic doesn't hold its place,
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Speaker 1: but do you reckon it's been a lifesaver with these
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Speaker 1: plastic covers along with the woolen variety?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I run both. Me and the lambing shepherd probably
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Speaker 4: put probably two to three rolls of plastic ones out
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Speaker 4: each and I think I had two to three hundred
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Speaker 4: woolen ones we used. Yeah, we definitely got out there
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Speaker 4: and got quite busy there those nights before big storms
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Speaker 4: and filled sheds up and they definitely have their place
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Speaker 4: if you can get those plastic ones on sort of
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Speaker 4: pretty quickly after the lambs. The ewes are not too worried,
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Speaker 4: and they work quite well. But the older ones that
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Speaker 4: have been out a wee bit longer, they'll put a
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Speaker 4: woolen one on, or the old ewes aren't too happy
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Speaker 4: about those plastic things lapping in the wind.
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Speaker 1: And it's just a case of tidying everything up, though,
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Speaker 1: when after the storm is such? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like there's a few plastic covers floating around. They're
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Speaker 4: going fence lines at the moment now, but they've served
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Speaker 4: their purpose. And, yeah, you sort of go along and
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Speaker 4: pick them up and pick up what you can and
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Speaker 4: Hope the neighbour will get the rest of them.
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Speaker 1: So when do you hope to get the tractors out
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Speaker 1: into the paddocks, or is that a pipe dream?
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm itching.
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Speaker 1: You can itch, but you've got to be realistic too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I might be able to get some ploughing done
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Speaker 4: maybe this weekend. There's three or four paddocks that were
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Speaker 4: direct drill and had ewes on them, so they're dry
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Speaker 4: as a bone, so I could actually probably get into them.
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Speaker 4: But the ones I really want to get into are
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Speaker 4: the second year paddocks, picking your crops, get the young
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Speaker 4: grass in and the barley and oats, but yeah, the
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Speaker 4: other wet ones, they might take another few weeks, but yeah,
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Speaker 4: we'll get done what we can, and yeah, there might
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Speaker 4: be a few late nights, but that's what spotlights and
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Speaker 4: GPS and auto-steer are.
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Speaker 5: For, though, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a luxury having auto-steer. A lot
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Speaker 1: of people seem to have it, though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't going to get it, and then the
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Speaker 4: salesman talked me into it, and yeah, I wouldn't go back.
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Speaker 4: It's I've been pretty bloody good for the sprinting I've
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Speaker 4: been doing leading up into lambing. Yeah, it's definitely a
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Speaker 4: game changer.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Brenton. Thanks for your time as always.
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Speaker 1: Next time we catch up, yeah, hopefully the weather's corrected
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Speaker 1: itself and tailing's all done, tractor work's done and we'll
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Speaker 1: catch up again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, cheers Andy and yeah, keep on battling everyone.
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Speaker 4: Every day's another day to close to the sunshine.
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Speaker 1: Brenton Howden of Benmore. You're listening to The Muster. Not
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Speaker 1: far from Brenton's place, actually, is about a 25-minute drive
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Speaker 1: down to Balfour. We catch up with Anika Templer. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to The Muster. That song there, Beth Out of
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Speaker 1: How by Meatloaf. It is like nine minutes, what is it?
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Speaker 1: Nine minutes 40 long, so if you're ever a DJ,
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Speaker 1: you need to do a pit stop. There's a song
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Speaker 1: you want to do it to. I mean, it's an anthem,
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Speaker 1: I suppose, is one way to deem it. Anika Templer's
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Speaker 1: up next, getting off track there, just sidetracked. Farming at Belford,
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Speaker 1: dairy farming. Anika, good afternoon. Meatloaf, not a bad artist.
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Speaker 1: Gone for not forgotten.
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Speaker 6: Yes, good afternoon. Yeah, I don't mind a bit of
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Speaker 6: meatloaf every now and then. Mum and Dad had the
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Speaker 6: CD when I was a kid, so grew up with it.
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Speaker 1: I had the tape.
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Speaker 6: Oh, the tape, yeah. Mum and Dad, I think, had
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Speaker 6: the vinyl originally. Well, Mum did, but.
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Speaker 1: And then after vinyl was the 8-track, just to go
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Speaker 1: back a couple of days. Look, there's a situation up there.
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Speaker 1: You guys, your husband, yourself, Nick, your husband, you're farming
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Speaker 1: a balfour. Last time we spoke to you, you were
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Speaker 1: just about to start carving, and I think the good
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Speaker 1: thing about today is that September is finished.
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Speaker 6: Yes, and hopefully it's upwards from here on, really, so...
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Speaker 6: Windy and overcast, but it's not raining, so it's a
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Speaker 6: good start.
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Speaker 1: How have you got through September?
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Speaker 6: Well, you can't control the weather, so we just got on.
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Speaker 6: You just have to get on and get it done.
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Speaker 6: It's not nice. It's not nice for anybody. You lay
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Speaker 6: in bed at night and you listen to the rain
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Speaker 6: and you know that your cows are calving in it
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Speaker 6: and they look miserable and it's not fun, but every
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Speaker 6: day you just have to get up and get them
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Speaker 6: fed and milked. It's just part of it, really. Well,
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Speaker 6: it seems like it's going to be part of it
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Speaker 6: now because it's the third year in a row, but yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, the way the rain pretty much fell every day
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we've gone 48 hours without precipitation.
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Speaker 1: It's like a phenomenon. It sounds ridiculous, but that's just
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Speaker 1: a state of play.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. And I worked out the other day,
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Speaker 6: the last part from yesterday, which was the nicest day
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Speaker 6: we've had in a very, very long time. The last
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Speaker 6: 10 days of September, it worked out we've had 11
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Speaker 6: mil every day. So it's just been consistent.
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Speaker 1: What would you say your average rainfall is there? You'd
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Speaker 1: be up around the 900,000 mil mark, would you?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, when we first got here, it used to be
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Speaker 6: around 800, but now I'd say we're about 1,000.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. September's normally your month... You looked forward
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Speaker 1: to it in a farming sense, and we're not going
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Speaker 1: to bang on about it too much because everybody knows
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Speaker 1: the obvious.
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Speaker 6: Everybody knows, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but just for us, I don't know, you look forward,
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Speaker 1: you think about next year, what do you do differently?
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Speaker 1: I mean, for you guys, is it possible to calf earlier?
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Speaker 1: Is it worth it, even contemplating?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's all things we've done. We've done in
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Speaker 6: the past where we've brought our calving forward, but then
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Speaker 6: we've gone back again. It's just, I don't know. Is
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Speaker 6: it just next year going to be fine again? Or
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Speaker 6: is this the way it's going to be forever? I don't... Yeah,
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Speaker 6: it's kind of hard to tell what the right or
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Speaker 6: wrong thing is to do. We've done a few things.
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Speaker 6: We've made a bit of a calving pad that we've
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Speaker 6: carved on this year, which has saved us a lot,
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Speaker 6: especially with the calves. It's been really good. But then
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Speaker 6: when we kind of needed it to feed milkers, it
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Speaker 6: kind of got mucky, so that's only just been scraped
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Speaker 6: off of a digger, and we're using it again for
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Speaker 6: milkers now. And, yeah, we've... We always have a lot
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Speaker 6: of contracted feed on hand, silage on hand, because you
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Speaker 6: never know when you're going to need it.
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Speaker 1: Animal health, has there been a concern at all through
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Speaker 1: the month?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had quite a bit of mastitis and lameness,
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Speaker 6: just from a wet, obviously, foot rot and those kind
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Speaker 6: of things popping up. A bit of mastitis, obviously, cows'
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Speaker 6: peats are muddy and they're obviously going into peak production,
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Speaker 6: so they've got big udders and stuff. But It's all
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Speaker 6: stuff that you can deal with.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's had to think about different ways of negating the
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Speaker 1: weather and you get all these different scenarios running through
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Speaker 1: your head as to what you're supposed to do, but
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Speaker 1: you just make it work somehow.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and like in a month or two's time, everybody's
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Speaker 6: kind of forgotten about it and the weather's nice and
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Speaker 6: then next year you just go and do it again.
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Speaker 1: In a couple of months, the bulkies will be flat
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Speaker 1: out and people will want rain. That's just the nature
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Speaker 1: of the situation.
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Speaker 6: That's just nature, yep.
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Speaker 1: That's farmers. You're always bitching about the weather. Too hot,
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Speaker 1: too wet, too dry, too windy, or you want something else.
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Speaker 6: Yep, always. Never happy.
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Speaker 1: You guys there supplement a big part of your... Have
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Speaker 1: you managed to keep a bit on hand?
16:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, we always have. Our farm owners have always been...
17:03
Speaker 6: He's always loved having silage on hand, so... It's always
17:07
Speaker 6: a system we've always run, even before the wet springs. And, yeah,
17:13
Speaker 6: it's always come back and saved us. So be it
17:15
Speaker 6: a dry summer or a wet spring, it always ends
17:18
Speaker 6: up being used in some way.
17:21
Speaker 1: That's a positive at the moment. I mean, you're always
17:23
Speaker 1: going to find something to feed it out to. I
17:25
Speaker 1: heard yesterday somebody possibly opening a stack of silage could be,
17:29
Speaker 1: they reckon, maybe 20 years old. But, I mean, if
17:34
Speaker 1: it works, it works.
17:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, something better than nothing.
17:40
Speaker 1: So what are your grass levels like at the moment?
17:43
Speaker 1: What is the state of play in that department?
17:46
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say we don't have grass. We do have
17:49
Speaker 6: some grass. Our cover's about 2,000. But utilisation is obviously
17:56
Speaker 6: the issue at the moment. Most of it, you can't
17:58
Speaker 6: really see it when you first look at the paddock,
18:01
Speaker 6: but most of it's sitting underneath some form of water.
18:04
Speaker 6: Obviously the water table's sitting pretty high, so the utilisation's
18:08
Speaker 6: not that good. They're just kind of walking in, making
18:10
Speaker 6: a bit of mud and trampling it into the ground
18:12
Speaker 6: more than anything. So that's when the supplements are obviously
18:17
Speaker 6: paying off.
18:19
Speaker 1: Team Welfare, the workers on the farm, all your staff
18:22
Speaker 1: as such, how have they got through? Because it takes
18:24
Speaker 1: a toll on everyone.
18:26
Speaker 5: Yeah.
18:27
Speaker 6: I think they seem to be fine. They're all still smiling,
18:30
Speaker 6: so I guess they must be semi-happy. They're obviously still
18:35
Speaker 6: getting their roster days off and their breaks and everything
18:38
Speaker 6: like that. Me and Nick, not so much. Nick some
18:42
Speaker 6: days doesn't come in for lunch or breakfast. He just
18:45
Speaker 6: likes to get everything just done. But yeah, they seem
18:51
Speaker 6: happy enough. They're still here.
18:52
Speaker 1: Have you said to Nick every now and then, you know,
18:55
Speaker 1: just chill out, man, we just need to put things
18:57
Speaker 1: into perspective, or is it a case of he enjoys
18:59
Speaker 1: just living in the moment?
19:01
Speaker 6: I think he enjoys living in the moment. He, yeah, he'll,
19:05
Speaker 6: in fact, I think he likes working there. He likes
19:08
Speaker 6: working under pressure, a little bit of stress keeps him going.
19:12
Speaker 1: Well, whatever it takes, I suppose. That's the main thing.
19:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
19:16
Speaker 1: And just a reminder as well, bird nests in tractors,
19:19
Speaker 1: when they do get going, you're hearing of a few
19:21
Speaker 1: people being caught out at the moment, so that's kind
19:23
Speaker 1: of flowing under the radar, no pun intended.
19:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. You don't really think it's too cold
19:28
Speaker 6: for anything to be breeding, or wet for anything to
19:31
Speaker 6: be breeding, but, yeah, the starlings are out in full force.
19:33
Speaker 6: I've seen now two I see pulling a bird's nest
19:36
Speaker 6: out this morning before he went to go feed out. So, yeah,
19:40
Speaker 6: they build up pretty quick. It's amazing what one little
19:42
Speaker 6: bird can do in a couple of hours.
19:45
Speaker 1: A couple of hours. They can do it in like
19:47
Speaker 1: 25 minutes.
19:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's unbelievable. how much stuff they manage to scavenge
19:51
Speaker 6: from everywhere.
19:52
Speaker 1: They'd be good workers on some of these Kiwi homes perhaps. Hey,
19:55
Speaker 1: we'll leave it there, Anika. All the best over the
19:57
Speaker 1: next wee while. Appreciate your time as always.
19:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you.
20:02
Speaker 4: Anika Templer.
20:05
Speaker 1: Based off of Balfour, Getting Through September. Into October, new month,
20:09
Speaker 1: new beginnings. This song, like I say, bit out of hell.
20:12
Speaker 1: Still got six minutes 40 to go. It's an absolute classic.
20:15
Speaker 1: The album bit out of hell when it came out.
20:18
Speaker 1: I'll take a guess here, about 1981. I'll do some
20:22
Speaker 1: prep and get back to you on that. Up next,
20:23
Speaker 1: Claire Toonenberg from Beef and Lab New Zealand. You're listening
20:26
Speaker 1: to The Muster.
20:26
Speaker 2: We're gone.
20:33
Speaker 1: The Muster Events Diary, brought to you by Beef and
20:36
Speaker 1: Lamb New Zealand. Click beeflamnz.com. Before we catch up with
20:45
Speaker 1: Claire Tootenberg, a bit out of how the album, that
20:47
Speaker 1: song there, all revved up and no place to go.
20:49
Speaker 1: It came off that album. Was it 1981? October 21st,
20:53
Speaker 1: 1977 is when that album was released. A hell of
20:57
Speaker 1: an album as well. Claire Tootenberg, good afternoon.
21:01
Speaker 2: Hi, Andy, how are you?
21:03
Speaker 1: Look, not too bad, but you've been out on the ground.
21:06
Speaker 1: You had the first of your farmer shouts occur last
21:09
Speaker 1: night down at Tokanui. How was it?
21:12
Speaker 2: It was great. The Tokanui community have kept me out
21:14
Speaker 2: a bit late last night. Didn't get home, didn't get
21:18
Speaker 2: tucked in bed till late. But, no, we had a
21:20
Speaker 2: wonderful turnout last night down at Tokanui. We had probably
21:24
Speaker 2: just over 100 people come down. So it was fantastic
21:27
Speaker 2: to see people get off farm after a well– one
21:31
Speaker 2: of few beautiful bright days that we've had.
21:35
Speaker 1: How are people faring?
21:37
Speaker 2: It's mixed reviews, I'd have to say, but in general,
21:44
Speaker 2: people are finding it really difficult and completely understandable. It's been, yeah,
21:53
Speaker 2: it's good to check in and see how people really are.
21:56
Speaker 2: As always, the farming community quite often put on a
21:59
Speaker 2: brave face, but it certainly is starting to wear people down.
22:03
Speaker 2: And so we're really, fingers crossed, that we've got some
22:07
Speaker 2: sunshine coming soon.
22:08
Speaker 1: It's a situation where everybody's in the same boat.
22:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
22:13
Speaker 2: And there's definitely pockets that seem to have got more
22:17
Speaker 2: than others. But overall, the rain measurements that we've been
22:22
Speaker 2: receiving have been extremely significant. Something that was raised last night,
22:27
Speaker 2: which was you know, so, you know, relatable was that
22:32
Speaker 2: this season it's just been progressively just rubbish the whole time.
22:35
Speaker 2: There hasn't been one big storm that's kind of wiped
22:37
Speaker 2: everything out and then it's got on with it. It's
22:40
Speaker 2: the fact that it's just been wet for such a
22:42
Speaker 2: progressively long time. You know, we've obviously had quite a
22:47
Speaker 2: wet August and then coming into spring with even, into, sorry,
22:51
Speaker 2: September with even more rain. So it's just been that
22:55
Speaker 2: consistent wet. that's really starting to have an impact. We're
22:59
Speaker 2: trying to think ahead as to what's sort of the
23:04
Speaker 2: next challenge. It's going to be a challenge that is
23:06
Speaker 2: going to be rolling on into summer. We do foresee
23:11
Speaker 2: there's going to be challenges with animal health. We're already
23:16
Speaker 2: seeing there are challenges with calves, young calves, but also,
23:20
Speaker 2: you know, lambs being born in wet, cold, muddy conditions,
23:25
Speaker 2: that naval infection issue I think that's going to rear
23:28
Speaker 2: its head. There could be, yeah, I think there'll be
23:32
Speaker 2: a few issues come up with lambs, older lambs that
23:34
Speaker 2: potentially give up the ghost and it's possibly down to
23:37
Speaker 2: that issue of being born in the wet, cold months.
23:41
Speaker 2: So we're certainly trying to look ahead to see what
23:44
Speaker 2: might pop up next and how we can best support
23:48
Speaker 2: to get some advice out there about how to deal
23:51
Speaker 2: with it.
23:52
Speaker 1: Based on that, what was the feedback you received last night?
23:54
Speaker 1: What are people asking of organisations like the Beef and Lamb,
23:58
Speaker 1: for example? What do they want?
24:01
Speaker 2: At this very point in time, whilst people are tired
24:04
Speaker 2: and they're busy, just the opportunity to come off farm,
24:09
Speaker 2: that just seems to be what it is at the moment.
24:12
Speaker 2: As it progresses through the season, certainly looking at ways
24:17
Speaker 2: in which they can manage farming.
24:21
Speaker 6: Pasture.
24:22
Speaker 2: That's going to be a really big one that we
24:26
Speaker 2: see coming into play. And the other one is just
24:29
Speaker 2: managing our ewes. As much as we do, we do
24:31
Speaker 2: focus on obviously getting our lambs out the gate.
24:34
Speaker 6: As quick as possible.
24:35
Speaker 2: That's the continuous focus we've got. But we certainly see
24:39
Speaker 2: a bit of a highlight on how we're going to
24:41
Speaker 2: better manage our ewes at weaning. We do see that
24:47
Speaker 2: ewes will be light, very light weaning. So we're looking
24:53
Speaker 2: at ways in which we can assist in management of
24:56
Speaker 2: years from weaning back through to next season's mating.
24:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now you've got these events happening over the next week.
25:03
Speaker 1: Tonight it is the turn of Central Pirates Rapid Club
25:05
Speaker 1: Wilson's Crossing.
25:07
Speaker 2: It is the Central Pirates. No pressure but Tokanui really
25:11
Speaker 2: turned it on last night so looking to back that
25:14
Speaker 2: up again down at Central Pirates. Again we have The
25:19
Speaker 2: Rapid Relief team supporting us by cooking gourmet burgers. They
25:25
Speaker 2: were incredibly well received last night. An absolute fantastic service
25:30
Speaker 2: with burgers, volunteers there supporting us. And our beverages this
25:36
Speaker 2: evening will be kindly sponsored by the team at H & T.
25:39
Speaker 2: So hugely appreciative of everyone that's got on board. And
25:44
Speaker 2: then next week we have an event on Wednesday night
25:47
Speaker 2: at Wyndham at the Three Rivers Hotel. And then we're
25:50
Speaker 2: travelling all the way over to Blackmount over there to
25:54
Speaker 2: Brunel Peak's cafe and bar. So we are really, really
25:57
Speaker 2: keen to welcome people along to those Spring Shout events.
26:02
Speaker 1: Upcoming events, you've got a speaker coming down next week, Claire?
26:06
Speaker 6: We do.
26:07
Speaker 2: On the 21st of October, we've got Professor Paul Kenyon
26:10
Speaker 2: coming down to Wyndham. One of the things as I
26:13
Speaker 2: was talking about before is looking at keeping one step
26:15
Speaker 2: ahead and trying to see what issues we may be
26:20
Speaker 2: able to provide support with. So Paul King is coming
26:24
Speaker 2: down to talk about managing your tutus and your use
26:29
Speaker 2: from weaning through to mating. So that is going to
26:32
Speaker 2: be a fantastic session with Paul. That's going to be
26:36
Speaker 2: at the Wyndham Memorial Hall on Wednesday the 21st of October.
26:40
Speaker 2: So Really do encourage people to make the most of
26:43
Speaker 2: Paul coming down to Southland. He's got wonderful knowledge that
26:48
Speaker 2: we'd like to utilise in this sort of season.
26:50
Speaker 1: So do people just turn up, they need to register?
26:53
Speaker 1: What's the case there?
26:54
Speaker 2: Please register online. We like people with registering online, but
26:59
Speaker 2: in saying that, if you decide on the day to
27:01
Speaker 2: turn up, I'm never going to turn you away.
27:03
Speaker 1: Good on you, Claire. Thanks for your time. Thanks, Andy.
27:12
Speaker 5: And you know it's true And that love.
27:14
Speaker 1: Backfired This is the muster on Hokonui. Andrew Tripp joins
27:20
Speaker 1: us next. Talking the Whiskey Creek Challenge happening in a
27:25
Speaker 1: few weeks' time out there at the world-famous Dollarmore Park
27:28
Speaker 1: just out of Gore. Some events there that are going
27:32
Speaker 1: to push you beyond your limit. There's a 24-hour one
27:35
Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. Andrew, good afternoon. 24 hours of running.
27:38
Speaker 1: Do many people contemplate this?
27:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, g'day Andy. Well, in fact, we've had just under
27:48
Speaker 3: 30 entries just for the 24 hours so far, so
27:53
Speaker 3: there's certainly some pretty serious contenders out there. But also,
27:58
Speaker 3: having said that, there's some people out there that are
28:01
Speaker 3: just going to walk and to see how many laps
28:04
Speaker 3: they can do in 24 hours. They won't be going
28:06
Speaker 3: the whole time. You're allowed to stop in between laps,
28:09
Speaker 3: so they might even go home and have a bit
28:11
Speaker 3: of a sleep in between times.
28:12
Speaker 1: So 24 hours running, though. It sounds like you're being
28:15
Speaker 1: an absolute sucker for punishment, if you don't mind me saying.
28:18
Speaker 1: It's unreal.
28:19
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah.
28:22
Speaker 7: It's not all running.
28:23
Speaker 3: Like, the Whiskey Creek Trail itself, it's about 200 metres elevation,
28:28
Speaker 3: uphill from Dollarmore Park, and then it's sort of good
28:31
Speaker 3: downhill back to the park. So most people will be walking,
28:35
Speaker 3: I think, after a few laps, everyone will be walking uphill.
28:38
Speaker 4: So.
28:40
Speaker 3: But, yeah, there's a lot of serious ultra runners out
28:43
Speaker 3: there now. It just seems to be a growing sport
28:45
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, and people out there just wanting to
28:49
Speaker 3: do it and go those longer distances. But then this
28:54
Speaker 3: event's not designed just for them. We've also got people
28:58
Speaker 3: that want to walk, and we've got a couple of kids'
29:01
Speaker 3: events as well, so we're sort of trying to make
29:03
Speaker 3: it family-friendly too.
29:05
Speaker 1: So how did the Whiskey Creek Challenge come about? What
29:08
Speaker 1: was the catalyst behind it, Andrew?
29:11
Speaker 3: It was probably something I was quite keen to do
29:14
Speaker 3: for a long time. We started up a Hokonui running group.
29:17
Speaker 3: It's a Facebook group. We go for a run on
29:19
Speaker 3: Wednesday nights. That's been going for about four years now.
29:24
Speaker 3: The Croydon Bush Reserve out there in Donalmore Park is
29:26
Speaker 3: an amazing asset for gore.
29:28
Speaker 1: Lots of trails.
29:30
Speaker 3: A lot of them are sort of along trapping lines
29:32
Speaker 3: as well. So we thought it would be a great
29:35
Speaker 3: place for sort of an endurance event. and so we
29:40
Speaker 3: had our first one last year, we had to get
29:42
Speaker 3: permission from DOC to use the reserve and obviously permission
29:45
Speaker 3: from Gore District Council so both those partners have been
29:49
Speaker 3: right behind us and backing this event so that's been
29:51
Speaker 3: really cool and this year we actually got a 10
29:54
Speaker 3: year concession from DOC so this will be here to
29:57
Speaker 3: stay so it's just a an annual endurance running, walking,
30:02
Speaker 3: family-friendly event for the people of Gore, and not just
30:06
Speaker 3: runners but walkers and families as well.
30:09
Speaker 1: And all the profits are going back to the Hoki
30:11
Speaker 1: Nui Runanga as well regarding trapping work in the reserve,
30:15
Speaker 1: plus a $ 1, 000 donation to the Gore Kids Hub, so
30:17
Speaker 1: everything's staying local. That's cool.
30:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, so certainly it's been organised by the community. We've
30:22
Speaker 3: got about 40 local businesses behind it. We've got heaps
30:26
Speaker 3: of prizes. We've got cash prizes of about.
30:29
Speaker 4: $ 3, 500.
30:29
Speaker 3: So if there are any serious runners out there, like
30:34
Speaker 3: we've got a cash prize for the first place in
30:37
Speaker 3: each event, plus we've got the fastest lap for male
30:40
Speaker 3: and female. So even if you just want to come
30:42
Speaker 3: out and do a hot lap, there's $ 200 up for
30:46
Speaker 3: grabs for that, plus heaps of spot prizes. So Yeah,
30:50
Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of people go away
30:52
Speaker 3: with something pretty cool as well as good memories.
30:56
Speaker 1: With this being an ultra-distance event, are you anticipating people
30:59
Speaker 1: from coming from far and away to participate?
31:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's been the dream. Obviously, last year was
31:07
Speaker 3: the first event. We sort of thought, let's see how
31:10
Speaker 3: it goes. We got over 100 entrants last year. And
31:15
Speaker 3: that was on a weekend, sort of mid-September. It was
31:18
Speaker 3: just terrible weather. But we pulled it off and it
31:21
Speaker 3: went really well. And people said they'd come back. And
31:24
Speaker 3: that's what's happened this year, a lot of return entries.
31:27
Speaker 3: So people are really keen to have a crack. And
31:31
Speaker 3: we've got people coming from Dunedin this year. So there's
31:35
Speaker 3: about six or seven coming. And I know two or
31:38
Speaker 3: three of them are actually very good ultra-distance runners and
31:41
Speaker 3: very fast. So So the competition's heating up and there's
31:44
Speaker 3: a few locals who are hoping to maybe sort of
31:47
Speaker 3: nab that first place, but they'll be under a bit
31:49
Speaker 3: of pressure this year.
31:50
Speaker 1: And there'll be a lot of fit farmers out there
31:52
Speaker 1: after sloshing through the mud, chasing lambs and ewes recently,
31:56
Speaker 1: calves and cattle in the lakes as well. So the
31:58
Speaker 1: fitness level should be pretty good at the moment, truth
32:00
Speaker 1: be known.
32:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. it might be a good break
32:05
Speaker 3: for the farmers too. And like last year, we had
32:07
Speaker 3: it in September, which didn't really suit a lot of farmers.
32:09
Speaker 3: The dairy farmers were calving and the sheep farmers were lambing.
32:13
Speaker 3: And I mean, I've still got to farm out in
32:16
Speaker 3: this day myself, but I'm not involved hands-on now. So
32:20
Speaker 3: I've got an opportunity to get out there and organise events,
32:23
Speaker 3: but we thought we'd shift it through into October. So
32:26
Speaker 3: it does suit farmers better. We've actually had a few
32:28
Speaker 3: more farmers enter so far, which is really cool.
32:32
Speaker 1: Do you have to cap numbers for the event, or
32:34
Speaker 1: are you encouraging whoever wants to turn up?
32:37
Speaker 3: Well, we've got, for the DOT concession, for the 10-year concession,
32:41
Speaker 3: we went big. So we've actually got numbers capped for that,
32:44
Speaker 3: for 300. So obviously we're not going to get close
32:48
Speaker 3: to that this year or even next, but it gives
32:50
Speaker 3: us room to grow. With the kids' fantail loop, that's
32:55
Speaker 3: just the kids' event, that's just a 3K loop around
32:59
Speaker 3: the fantail loop, so that's actually free.
33:01
Speaker 4: Free for kids.
33:02
Speaker 3: So that's going to be a great opportunity for them
33:07
Speaker 3: to do that too. We're really looking forward to just
33:12
Speaker 3: being out there doing a bit of track maintenance yesterday
33:15
Speaker 3: on the Fantail Loop. So it'll be a great place
33:18
Speaker 3: for the kids just to walk around with parents and caregivers.
33:21
Speaker 3: If they're over a certain age, if they're over eight,
33:25
Speaker 3: they can just do it themselves. All the other entries
33:29
Speaker 3: close on the 14th of October, so if you're keen
33:32
Speaker 3: to enter, just go to our website, whiskycreekchallenge.com, and all
33:38
Speaker 3: the information is there, plus the entry.
33:41
Speaker 1: I like how you use the term Think Big. I
33:43
Speaker 1: don't think I've heard that saying since Rob Muldoon.
33:47
Speaker 3: Well, it gives us the opportunity to grow. In an
33:50
Speaker 3: event like this, it'll just keep building, and as people...
33:55
Speaker 3: take part and they tell their friends and I've been
33:59
Speaker 3: using Facebook as well and Instagram and I'm not sort
34:03
Speaker 3: of so hot on that. I probably need to do
34:05
Speaker 3: a course on how to use it properly but we
34:08
Speaker 3: started up a Facebook page a couple of weeks ago
34:11
Speaker 3: and there's 450 people following it now so it's only
34:14
Speaker 3: going to grow and as people compete or actually enter
34:17
Speaker 3: it and participate they'll tell their mates and next year
34:21
Speaker 3: it'll be even bigger.
34:22
Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Andrew. All the best for the event.
34:24
Speaker 1: It's happening in a couple of weeks. The Whiskey Creek Challenge.
34:27
Speaker 1: So once again, for people to get in touch regarding entries,
34:30
Speaker 1: where do they go?
34:31
Speaker 3: So whiskeycreekchallenge.com is the website. So just Google Whiskey Creek Challenge.
34:37
Speaker 3: It'll take you there. And all the information's on the website.
34:41
Speaker 3: We've got a heap of stuff there, plus a bit
34:43
Speaker 3: of facts and history, some fun information about Dollarmill Park
34:48
Speaker 3: and the reserve itself and just how it all came about.
34:51
Speaker 4: Nice.
34:52
Speaker 1: Good on you, Andrew. Thanks for your time.
34:54
Speaker 3: No, thanks, Andy.
34:59
Speaker 1: Andrew Tripp, talking about the Whiskey Creek Challenge happening at
35:02
Speaker 1: Dollamore Park on the 17th and 18th of October. So
35:06
Speaker 1: various events there, and if you're feeling pretty keen or
35:08
Speaker 1: want to run for 24 hours, well, here's your opportunity.
35:11
Speaker 1: The Whiskey Creek Challenge happening very soon on the Southern Landscape.
35:16
Speaker 1: Our resident sporting guru, Nathan Burden, is up next. You're
35:19
Speaker 1: listening to The Muster. And some magic called in nice.
35:33
Speaker 1: Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burton. He's based in Invercargill.
35:37
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Nathan. That song there is Paradise by The
35:39
Speaker 1: Dashboard Light by Meatloaf. It's got three parts to it.
35:43
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it reminds me of the South African
35:46
Speaker 1: national anthem has three different languages. Well, this has got
35:48
Speaker 1: three different parts to the song. How's that for a correlation?
35:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, correlation's not causation, but yeah, it's a hell of
35:55
Speaker 5: an intro, man.
35:56
Speaker 1: Well, there you go for a hell of an artist
35:58
Speaker 1: who's gone but not forgotten. The Stags, one last dance
36:03
Speaker 1: tomorrow night against Northland. And, yeah, we'll leave the review
36:08
Speaker 1: until next week. But at the moment, still one game
36:10
Speaker 1: to go for the guys. And last week against Canterbury,
36:12
Speaker 1: close but no cigar.
36:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got to be honest. I was pretty concerned
36:19
Speaker 5: about that game. You know, we've been on the wrong
36:22
Speaker 5: end of some pretty fearful hikes from Canberra teams in
36:26
Speaker 5: recent years and sort of had that feeling about it,
36:29
Speaker 5: you know, as you sort of draw towards the end
36:30
Speaker 5: of the season and those injuries have been biting and
36:32
Speaker 5: they've had to go deeper and deeper into the reserves.
36:37
Speaker 5: But they did stick to it in the second half
36:39
Speaker 5: and they really actually put themselves in the shot of
36:42
Speaker 5: winning that game, didn't they? Which, you know, they just
36:45
Speaker 5: defiantly took some pride for that, showed some resilience. And
36:50
Speaker 5: they'll need a bit more of that on Friday night
36:53
Speaker 5: against Northern, won't they? Because that Taniwha side are pretty quality.
36:57
Speaker 1: And they'll be hurting as well. They lost the shield,
36:59
Speaker 1: and really, they shouldn't have.
37:01
Speaker 5: That was a massive surprise. I mean, to be honest,
37:04
Speaker 5: I had an absolute shock with my picks last week.
37:07
Speaker 5: I think I might have got one, maybe two right
37:10
Speaker 5: from the whole round. It seemed to be... It seemed
37:13
Speaker 5: to be a weekend for upsets. But, yeah, no, they're
37:16
Speaker 5: a good team. They've been travelling pretty well for most
37:20
Speaker 5: of the season. They seem to be lifting around the shield,
37:24
Speaker 5: but picking up wins outside of that as well. And so, yeah,
37:28
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see, I guess, psychologically what losing
37:30
Speaker 5: the log of wood does mean. But by the same token,
37:35
Speaker 5: there is the Peter T-Tie trophy as well, which is, yeah,
37:39
Speaker 5: Pete's such a legend in both provinces, particularly down here.
37:44
Speaker 5: Great man. So both those teams would love to get
37:47
Speaker 5: their hands on that trophy.
37:49
Speaker 1: Now, Hawke's Bay gets the last round for the Shield
37:52
Speaker 1: Challenge for the year against Counties. And a lot of
37:55
Speaker 1: people saying you don't want Hawke's Bay to win it.
37:57
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're good enough, you're good enough. They've
37:58
Speaker 1: lost a couple of games in a row at home, actually. So,
38:02
Speaker 1: I don't know. Counties a starter's chance in this game, realistically?
38:05
Speaker 1: Second last or third last on the table?
38:08
Speaker 5: Look, I think they are. The Magpies have been an
38:11
Speaker 5: absolute enigma for me this year. I mean, probably through
38:16
Speaker 5: the first half of the season, they looked absolutely unbeatable.
38:19
Speaker 5: And you had the likes of Folao Whakataua, who was
38:21
Speaker 5: just playing probably some of the best rugby of his career,
38:24
Speaker 5: to be honest. And then they seemed to have a
38:27
Speaker 5: couple of games where they managed to just probably steal
38:31
Speaker 5: a win with a late second-half performance. And then they
38:36
Speaker 5: just went completely off the ball. So, really be interested
38:39
Speaker 5: to know what's been going on behind the scenes with
38:41
Speaker 5: that team, but they are a pretty proud Red Furby
38:45
Speaker 5: Shield province, Hawke's Bay. They love to get their hands
38:49
Speaker 5: on it, so they will lift for this game. Lots
38:53
Speaker 5: of teams getting into this round, I suppose, have won
38:56
Speaker 5: on the playoffs, don't they? And they'll probably look to
38:59
Speaker 5: box clever to some degree, but yeah, I think it'll
39:02
Speaker 5: be a heck of a game. Both teams with some
39:04
Speaker 5: big ball runners and and teams that are keen to
39:08
Speaker 5: use the ball, so it should be pretty entertaining.
39:10
Speaker 1: The irony being that if Hawke's Bay wins this, I
39:12
Speaker 1: think it's like eight holders of the Logwood in the
39:14
Speaker 1: last two years.
39:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, which I guess speaks to, you know, the last
39:19
Speaker 5: two years have probably been, you know, set all sorts
39:21
Speaker 5: of records for the log wood moving around, which I
39:25
Speaker 5: think you want it to, you want some decent sort
39:27
Speaker 5: of tenures, don't you, when it lands in a place,
39:31
Speaker 5: but it's also by the same token, it's good to
39:33
Speaker 5: see it move around. I think what it speaks to
39:35
Speaker 5: is the fact that we've just got this really entertaining
39:39
Speaker 5: competition where, which gives us what we want, which is
39:43
Speaker 5: at the start of any game, you don't know which
39:44
Speaker 5: way the result is going to go, so you can't
39:47
Speaker 5: really ask for too much more at a time when,
39:49
Speaker 5: you know, probably the, if not the NPC has been
39:54
Speaker 5: sounded out.
39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of this? We had Sav
39:57
Speaker 1: on the show on Monday and there's a case of
39:59
Speaker 1: the unknown as to what happens with the NPC going forward.
40:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Sav and I are on the same
40:05
Speaker 5: page with this one. I mean, Super Rugby does a job.
40:11
Speaker 5: It's the professional and theoretically it's the, it's that higher
40:17
Speaker 5: level for players and should make money. It's the one
40:21
Speaker 5: that the broadcast deal is predicated on to a large degree.
40:25
Speaker 5: But if it ended tomorrow, I don't think I'd be
40:29
Speaker 5: too concerned, to be fair. MPC is where it's at.
40:33
Speaker 5: Interesting to see Dave Rennie come into bat for the
40:37
Speaker 5: MPC this week as well. There's a guy that knows
40:40
Speaker 5: a bit about rugby.
40:42
Speaker 1: Now, sad news came out this morning, the passing of
40:45
Speaker 1: Loosehead Len, a.k.a. Phil Gifford.
40:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, really sad. And I guess just one of those
40:51
Speaker 5: guys that we've all grown up with, reading, listening to
40:54
Speaker 5: him on the radio, seeing him on TV, and just
40:58
Speaker 5: a massive and quality body of work in and around
41:04
Speaker 5: rugby in particular, the game that he loved, but also
41:07
Speaker 5: a host of other sports as well. So, yeah. So, yeah,
41:11
Speaker 5: a huge service to sport in general and rugby in
41:14
Speaker 5: particular in this country.
41:16
Speaker 1: And he used to do a column in Rugby News
41:18
Speaker 1: called Loose Head Len featuring Susan of Heron Bay. You
41:21
Speaker 1: can never forget that.
41:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it just sort of harks back to
41:25
Speaker 5: a simpler time, doesn't it? I mean, Rugby News, back
41:29
Speaker 5: in the day, Rugby News was sort of that must-read magazine.
41:32
Speaker 5: magazine each week. It was, there was a great, you know,
41:35
Speaker 5: great publication. Just a bit of money freelancing for it
41:39
Speaker 5: from time to time too, which was pretty handy back
41:40
Speaker 5: in the day. But yeah, Lucy, Lynn, yeah, simple time. Great,
41:44
Speaker 5: great times.
41:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to pick out rugby news every Wednesday
41:47
Speaker 1: night from the Balfour Shop. RIP Phil Gifford. Now we've
41:50
Speaker 1: got the NRL Grand Final this week. There's no wars,
41:53
Speaker 1: but it's a pretty good final in store. Newcastle Knights
41:57
Speaker 1: against Sydney Roosters. Newcastle, the Novacastrians, as they're known as.
42:01
Speaker 1: Total underdogs. They've come from the bottom, and they could
42:03
Speaker 1: possibly win the competition with the first time in donkey's
42:06
Speaker 1: years from outside the top four.
42:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, massive. They do go on as a pretty hefty underdog,
42:13
Speaker 5: don't they? But they seem to have momentum. on their side.
42:17
Speaker 5: I don't know if I should probably be going for
42:21
Speaker 5: the Roosters in that grand final. I've got a bit
42:23
Speaker 5: of a very tenuous link with my old Blues mate,
42:27
Speaker 5: Simon Jones, who's the strength and conditioning coach at the Roosters,
42:31
Speaker 5: doing a great job there. It should just be an
42:36
Speaker 5: amazing game watching, I guess, Nathan Cleary pick up that
42:40
Speaker 5: DLM award last night as well from his couch. There's
42:45
Speaker 5: been probably less more said about what's going on around
42:50
Speaker 5: the game this week than there has been about the
42:52
Speaker 5: game itself, but as we get a bit closer to Sunday.
42:55
Speaker 5: that'll all change and it's definitely something to look forward to.
42:57
Speaker 1: I'm all about the Newcastle Knights looking for their third premiership,
43:00
Speaker 1: although they all go on about 1997 when they won.
43:03
Speaker 1: But that was the year of the Super League war,
43:05
Speaker 1: of the Brisbane Broncos winning the Super League version and
43:08
Speaker 1: Newcastle beating Manly. But you hear nothing about the Super
43:11
Speaker 1: League and the way the competition was split that year. However,
43:14
Speaker 1: they did win it with all the teams involved in 2001.
43:17
Speaker 1: So certainly a bit of history there for the Knights
43:19
Speaker 1: to look back on.
43:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do remember going through Newcastle on a rugby
43:25
Speaker 5: trip once way back in the day, and it was
43:28
Speaker 5: a great whole day, and it was a tough-looking town.
43:32
Speaker 1: It's a cool town.
43:34
Speaker 5: It's a gritty franchise, and it was amazing to see
43:37
Speaker 5: Matty Johns on the TV and the emotion that he
43:39
Speaker 5: was showing when they qualified for the final. You can
43:43
Speaker 5: tell just what it means to those Newcastle faithful.
43:47
Speaker 1: Myself and Mark Evans, we stayed in Stockton for four
43:49
Speaker 1: nights once upon a time. It was all about Newcastle
43:52
Speaker 1: for me at the weekend. Nathan Burden, always appreciate your time.
43:56
Speaker 5: Lovely. Thanks, mate.
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45:03
Speaker 7: G'day Andy. Yeah, pretty good, thanks. Yeah, big yarding today. Yeah,
45:07
Speaker 7: very big yarding of wet, dry and dry ewes. But
45:12
Speaker 7: a smaller yarding of prime lambs. The best lambs today,
45:16
Speaker 7: 450 to 480. Very heavy lambs. Probably back with it
45:19
Speaker 7: all the same. The next cut down, the medium wood lambs, Andy,
45:24
Speaker 7: sort of 250 to 280. The lighter of the lambs,
45:28
Speaker 7: just sort of, it's a 190, 210, 220 lambs. No
45:31
Speaker 7: store lambs to talk of today. There was none in
45:34
Speaker 7: there at all today. Into the ewes, like I said,
45:36
Speaker 7: big yard ewes. The very heavy ewes, 330 to 350.
45:39
Speaker 7: Very heavy ewes.
45:42
Speaker 2: Good medium.
45:43
Speaker 7: Sorry, I think it was 50. There's some more past.
45:47
Speaker 7: Where was I, Eddie? 250 to 260. Good medium to
45:50
Speaker 7: heavy ewes. But the light ewes selling very, very well.
45:56
Speaker 5: It's sort of 170 to 190.
45:57
Speaker 1: And.
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Speaker 7: Club Trade Reims, 121.30 in the Europe's last meeting.