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Connect on a Heart Level to Grow your Business · Authentic Living

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  Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a global voice Radio.
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  Join Roxanne Derhodge and her thought provoking conversations, the catalyst to live your life
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  to the fullest.
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  Hi, everyone.
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  It's a Roxanne Derhodge again.
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  So nice that you tune in yet again.
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  To authentic living with Roxanne.
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  So today I have a very special guest and actually some exciting news.
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  So my new brand, the authentic connection movement is about to have his first events and
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  we've been privileged to have some, awesome lineup of which, Mr.
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  Dave Hilipson is one of them, and he's the CEO of CEO space.
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  So, today he's gonna chat a little bit about, what he does, in his world and with CE's CEO
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  statement specifically around, networking and all the things that he does out there with the
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  entrepreneurs.
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  So, Dave, thanks so much for joining me on, authentically being with Roxanne today.
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  My pleasure.
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  And, just so, I'm in a a good place.
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  I wanna, share that September Gorman is actually the CEO, and, Bernie Gorman is the
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  founder.
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  And, just a little bit of background on CEO space, Bernie's, father was a mentor to people
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  like Napoleon Hill.
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  Walt Disney, Zig Ziegler, Buckminster Fuller.
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  You name it about just about any big name, and and that's it.
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  I'll go through another list here.
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  Jack Kennedy, Martin Luther King, W Edwards Deming, W.
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  Clement Stone Earl Nightingale, Jim Roan, and many other.
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  And then, Bernie has been, the, coach of the coaches.
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  Any big name that's out there today, he has been a mentor too, and CEO space came out of a
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  It it actually started in Canada.
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  It started at the, the, yeah, it started at the Shot Square Hotel, near Montreal about 30 years
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  ago.
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  About 30.
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  Wow.
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  So it got started in Canada.
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  So I'm so sorry for, seeing So what your role or your title with CEO space then is what,
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  Dave?
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  Well, I'm often referred to as the director of global development and, I have a lot of fun
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  going out and helping with our members.
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  We have over 300,000 members in a 144 countries.
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  Focus right now is, not just growing the membership in those countries, but also,
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  growing the presence and working with, political delegates from the various countries,
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  not just the entrepreneurs.
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  Awesome.
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  So, we feel privileged that, with you, coming to Toronto on June 22nd, to be able to share
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  the wisdom of CEO space.
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  So our, the the, title or the work shop, event is called Authentic Leadership creating a
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  culture well-being in the workplace.
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  So tell, tell us a little bit about how you got started.
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  And, obviously, you've been in, in the field of, personal development for a long time.
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  So tell me a bit about that and, you know, what brings you, what keeps you in a feel for that
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  long.
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  Obviously, I've chatted with you before and you're quite passionate about it.
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  So tell me tell me a bit about, your beginnings.
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  Sure.
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  My beginnings, I would say in personal development.
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  I found Tony Robbins when he was struggling to get a 100 people for a weekend for fire walk.
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  Can we help put him on the map?
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  And then his info commercial kicked in, and that helped carry him quite a diff, distance.
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  And then found a little, group at the time it was called Peter Loeb International, which is
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  also Canadian group, I believe, right there in, out of Toronto where you are.
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  They were doing about 67100 and, people per event.
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  They were doing one of a month, 10 months out of the year, we quickly ramped them up to where
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  we were doing between 12 to 25,000 per event three times a week and doing 11 months out of
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  the year in in just packing stadiums.
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  I was introduced to CEO space several years later, and by a gentleman by the name of Art
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  Linkletter, who in the sixties seventies had a show called kids say the darnest things.
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  And I was quite skeptical of this thing called CEO space because I'd never heard of it.
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  Yet all of my friends, all these big names that I put on stages were all members.
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  Okay.
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  And and so I went with reluctance.
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  They had a money back guarantee still due today.
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  But I was dead set in my own mind that I had seen everything and done everything.
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  So I knew I was gonna get my refund.
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  And, Actually, what happened as I go in print is everything else out there is just, pitch
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  fest.
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  Yeah.
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  This was refreshingly different, and it was a group of collaborative people that came
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  together to conspire to get to help each other grow their businesses.
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  And when I say businesses, some extremely big names just in the publishing side.
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  You've got in CEO spaces responsible for that's, the secret chicken soup for the soul.
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  Mark and Jack actually met there Hidal came from there as didn't, many of their early
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  authors.
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  Rich Dad Ford added.
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  The list goes on in that list.
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  The producer that put Oprah Winfrey on the map, non publishing, that people know of boots.
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  Airborne by the second gold, almost both a 2nd grade school teacher.
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  In fact, She couldn't afford us.
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  We showed her how to raise the money so she could took her all the way, including her exit
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  in 2010.
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  For half a $1,000,000,000.
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  So Cospace has got a lot of good people that help each other, and it's collaborative and
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  it's amazing what happens with the human spirit when you create that cooperation environment
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  within a group of people that are like Vonage.
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  Right.
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  Because, you know, with, our our event, it's it's about talking about how authentic leaders
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  and entrepreneurs need to be authentic.
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  And connected.
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  Right?
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  So if you think about it, you know, I think of a lot of experiences when I've been an
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  executive in a health and wellness firm, and you would have, you know, senior level VPs,
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  just being downright toxic, to, you know, behind the health, And then they were frontward
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  facing to the clients, and, and then they were basically on stage, or they were kind of
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  polished But what was happening in the reality of some of this environments, unfortunately,
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  was that it was, it was quite toxic.
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  So I find it in interesting that you're you're talking about collaboration because,
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  unfortunately, in the corporate sector, what happens is it becomes so competitive that it's
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  it's almost like people are clawing their way up, and, unfortunately, sometimes even more so
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  when you're female at an executive level.
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  So tell me, how do you like, with with collaboration and CEO space, what's the
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  difference?
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  How do you attract the people that you attract?
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  And how do you, if you do have someone that say more, individual and individualistic.
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  How how do you work with them?
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  Well, first, we'll judge as to whether we let them in or not.
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  We're private.
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  We're by invite only.
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  We weed out those that aren't cooperative.
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  And collaboration, cooperation is a buzzword the last few days, I would say, not the last
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  few days.
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  The last few years, probably the last 3, maybe 5 years.
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  Geospace has been putting it into practice for 30 years and improving it.
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  The number one difference is cooperative capitalism.
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  Capitalism much like socialism, communism, etcetera, as another failed system.
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  The only thing that's been proven to work is cooperative capitalism.
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  And when people learn what cooperative capitalism is, then it makes sense to them and
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  They get it.
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  And there are, you know, if somebody's on the fence, we believe that, hey.
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  This is somebody that is is a giver.
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  They're not a taker, then, we'll give them an opportunity to, to prove us right that, they'll
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  catch on as well.
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  And when it does, it's it's unstoppable.
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  So you're already kinda vetting people out once you expose them to the environment, or are you
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  doing a bit of a, a, like, meet and greet initially to get a sense of them before you
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  expose them to the space?
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  Yeah.
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  And a lot can be done just in conversation on a phone call.
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  I've been enjoying this for, long enough that I know what the keys are, what somebody is,
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  etcetera, just by the words they use and and, some of their background, etcetera.
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  And, it it's refreshing to find people that truly are collaborative, that truly are and
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  those people, and I'll say this.
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  Not everyone recognizes CEO space is something that they want to do the first time they meet
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  us.
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  Usually, it takes between 3 and 7 contacts, exploring conversations, etcetera.
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  Maybe even putting them on their strategies that can help them better understand how CEO
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  space can help their business grow much faster, much further.
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  That said, about 10% of the people out there, and I was one of them.
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  When we get the idea of cooperative Capitalism, and see how it works.
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  It's like, wow.
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  I've been looking for something like this, my entire life.
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  That was part of my skepticism as well is I couldn't that there was a group of of at the
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  time, I think there was about 75,000 people around the world.
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  I couldn't believe there was a large group that came together on a regular basis that did
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  business the way that I was raised, you know, with the same values as my grandparents that
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  were passed on to my parents, etcetera.
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  And, you know, the the values of the greatest generation that I couldn't believe that it
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  existed in business and I hadn't heard about it.
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  Right.
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  So that created some, skepticism as well.
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  I'm just pleasant.
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  Got two pairs of glasses.
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  I only need one.
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  So Just
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  just want just want to see.
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  That's all.
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  That's right.
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  The other
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  one could be decoration.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's the that's really interesting because I'm gonna tell you, obviously, being have been
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  having been an executive, but also, as an entrepreneur.
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  It's finding the right synergies with the people that you want to relate to.
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  And that's that could be difficult, right, based on certain environments that you get get
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  you go into.
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  Let's say I'm, you know, entering an environment and I'm shifting careers.
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  Someone like me that, was a psychotherapist, and now I'm, you know, speaking and training,
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  you know, those types of things.
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  It's a shift.
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  It's a pivot.
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  To do something new.
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  It is.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm entering a field, and then I go, you know, you go into arenas and then oftentimes,
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  I'm I'm interested to hear your feedback.
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  There's there's a lot of I'm gonna use the word fear.
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  Because there seems to be a lot of egos sometimes when you're trying to break into,
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  certain fields.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  You are who you are.
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  And when you're living your authentic self, then it's easy to fit in where you belong.
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  And we've changed cultures that whether it's 3 m, IBM, we changed the cultures.
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  They sent their leaders to CEO space to change their culture within.
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  And, most of us, in North America have been watching cooperation versus competition for
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  years.
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  Microsoft was so competitive that they wouldn't allow each the different silos to talk to one
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  another.
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  And what happened, they would put out crappy product after crappy product after crappy
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  product And finally, they're just coming around and being more cooperative and they're starting
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  to get things right.
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  Apple on the other hand.
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  Was so cooperative that people were willing to sleep near their desk and work there, and and
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  they they create a community within their workspace and app has thrived.
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  I remember, in fact, I was fortunate enough to be able to, to say this isn't true, and I'm
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  gonna capitalize on it when people were saying, Apple is going out of business.
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  Apple's gonna go bang rep, those types of things.
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  And, I remember Bill Gates, but think it was a $150,000,000 worth of Apple stock back in the,
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  in the nineties.
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  And I thought, Well, if he can, I can too?
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  So that was a fun little ride, but Apple just proved their cooperation in their environment,
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  and it's it's thrived.
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  There's there's still a lot of cooperation, although Tim needs to he doesn't quite
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  understand it the way Steve Jobs does.
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  And Apple, even though they're moving forward, there's there's some things that they could
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  work on.
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  So definitely, collaborative and cooperative.
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  And I know, at our events, you're gonna be speaking, but you're also gonna be doing, you
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  know, I'm gonna call it like it's like speed dating, but it's it's speed date it's speed
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  dating for entrepreneurs where you where you you do, something called Snap, which I'd like
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  you to talk a little bit about that and how it how it originated.
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  And, if people, we would love people to obviously come out and join us in June 22nd, at
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  the Sandman in Mississauga and Dixie Road, what what would they expect, from, obviously, the
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  you know, having the snap or being part of that networking event.
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  Snap.
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  Excuse me.
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  Snap starts from or it stands for super networking accelerates potential.
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  Okay.
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  And
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  what I'm gonna do, it it's not speed dating what it is.
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  It's super networking.
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  It's connecting at the heart level at the authentic level.
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  And basically, I'm bringing cooperative capitalism to your event.
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  I'm gonna set it up so everyone can experience it and we're gonna do it early in the day.
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  So then it carries out the rest of the day on every break on the lunch break, etcetera.
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  And it's so refreshing.
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  Even for people that hate networking, they love this because you're off guard and you're
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  selling yourself.
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  You're basically, it's bringing everybody together, bringing all resources together so
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  people can share and help each other.
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  And, if there are any givers in the audience, they're gonna really love this, for those that
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  are just there to take it, You'll definitely stand out if you're unable to set your agenda
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  aside for just a short little while, and it's gonna be uncomfortable.
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  And that's okay.
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  Either you get it or you don't.
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  But, usually, if you have a room of two or three hundred people, you might have 2 or 3
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  people that leave the room because it's so uncomfortable.
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  The idea of cooperation is so uncomfortable.
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  For them.
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  But we're seeing that all around the world just in the political arena.
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  People are coming together, and they're getting rid of the people that aren't cooperating,
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  people want their countries back.
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  And, the world is coming together in cooperation, and that's the only way that we
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  can ever continue to move on.
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  So Can I ask what kind of things do you do?
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  Can you give us an example?
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  Cause I'm curious now, right, because I know that, you know, to get connected, it's it's
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  it's difficult, right, because we're gonna we're gonna meet a room of four hundred people,
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  and you're gonna somehow get us to connect.
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  Now, I mean, obviously, in my space and your space, we're accustomed to doing these types of
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  things.
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  I would assume a lot of entrepreneurs do do that because they have to, you know, network
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  and market and get out there.
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  Give me an example of some of the little things that you do, that people may be exposed to.
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  Or is it an entire process?
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  Yeah.
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  With the time that we have on a short little, cast like this.
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  There isn't the the time to go in-depth, but I can give you examples.
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  Now I've given you some already, but let's take, something that was a hot topic just a few
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  years ago.
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  In the Muslim community alone, you've got 4 sex.
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  And you've got, we take the sunis and shiites, for example.
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  They're they're fighting within one religion over competition, and they're magnifying their
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  differences.
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  And if we're able to teach them, to celebrate each other's differences, it changes, it
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  shifts, and what it leaves for the children of tomorrow.
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  Is outstanding.
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  For example, you teach them to celebrate differences rather than magnify magnifying the
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  differences off.
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  Well, you're this and you do this and you wear this and you eat this and you talk like this,
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  etcetera.
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  But if you celebrate a difference, oh, you know, become curious.
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  Tell me about your food.
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  Tell me about your dance.
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  Tell me about your gowns.
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  What does this mean in part of your celebration?
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  Share with me your celebrations.
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  How does that work?
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  And, I wanna know how that's unique with mine.
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  And then Each side's sharing what their celebrations are like, and they're realizing,
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  wow.
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  That's magnificent because you never wanna take magnificence away from another human spirit.
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  You wanna breathe magnificence into them.
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  And if the children are raised, learning to celebrate each other, rather than magnify the
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  differences, man, the future is incredible and it's something I wanna stick around for.
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  So you're already having people see people for who they are versus that you're different than
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  me.
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  You're some
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  some
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  weird.
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  You're something to say, curious.
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  Now I'm from Trinidad and Tobago originally.
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  And, you know, coming from a little island, you know, I was quite young when I came to Canada,
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  and it was it was difficult because it stopped that people didn't wanna know, but a lot of
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  people, if you're, if you're different, and I'm going back, you know, into the, you know, late
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  eighties, there wasn't a lot a lot of diversity that like there is now, and people would kind
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  of, you know, they weren't sure.
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  Do you speak English?
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  I'm like, yeah.
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  I speak to speak English.
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  That's all I grew up.
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  I grew up in a British system.
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  So they didn't know where to put me.
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  So I could see how that would really kind of curiosity.
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  Often times, people get afraid.
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  Yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  They're they're frightened by it because we're taught to magnify And here you are, you're
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  speaking proper English and real English.
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  And, we're just we're still learning your language, here in the states after 2, 200 plus
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  years.
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  Of but, yeah, it's you talk to them.
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  You have an accent.
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  I remember that all the time being raised, in a small town in the Great Lakes area is somebody
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  has an accent.
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  It's really magnified back there because people don't understand.
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  There's a smaller picture of the world.
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  Of course, now living in a a much larger hit anyone with those large in the US and also
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  travel in the world.
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  You get to pick up on different things.
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  And and I'll hear something now.
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  The, I guess, because I do understand cooperation and celebration, etcetera.
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  I wanna find out what are they about?
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  What do I know already about their culture?
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  What can I learn more about their culture And, more importantly, how can we help each other on
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  each other's dreams?
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  Because when you bring dreams together,
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  Mhmm.
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  And you magnify them, that's pretty incredible.
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  That's that is the human spirit it also it allows you to become more of your authentic
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  self.
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  And, it it's quite refreshing.
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  So we're gonna experience that then, on the 22nd, for sure.
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  For anybody that's gonna attend, it sounds amazing.
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  So with, with Bernie, what role does Bernie play now with, CEO space is he still attending
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  events, or is it it's something that he's kind of a bit removed now?
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  In 2013, he, retired from PEO space, and he handed the reins over to his wife.
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  And, his wife's attempt, well, to all women, actually, at the executive level.
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  And the CEO space has been se celebrating equal partnership for women for 30 years.
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  We're just starting now to hear about it in the corporate realm that Cospace has has that's
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  been the focus for over 30 years.
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  And I may have shared with you, and I'll certainly, any any of the guests that, who
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  wanna contact you put them in touch with me, There is a, video by Sharon Lecter.
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  Now that that, name may not ring a bell to all of your audience, but to scum, they will, and
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  the reason for it is if they have the early, booked by Robert Kiyosaki to rich dad poor dad
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  books, It says on the front cover in small print and on low right, written by Sharon
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  Lector.
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  Sharon also happens to be the only female on the board of the Napoleon Hill Foundation.
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  Sharon also chose CEO space to not only announce Think And Grow Rich for Women.
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  But also to launch Thinking Girl Rich for Women as well.
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  And it's because of CEO space holding these space for equal partnership for women, through
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  cooperation and collaboration as opposed to to competition.
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  There hasn't been, you don't hear about the glass ceiling at CEO space because of all these
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  powerful women.
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  Well, that's that one of a refreshing space, as a female entrepreneur, wanting to be able to be
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  treated the same.
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  And I and also, some of the information that I've looked at, I see that, Lisa Nichols was,
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  you know, her space.
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  She spent, and, and she you know, I was watching something on YouTube, and she talked
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  about the impact that, CEO space had on her.
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  And when she was beginning, because she, you know, and how much more authentic can you get
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  than Lisa Nichols?
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  That's right.
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  Like, I mean, she's captivating.
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  You know, I I still listen to that story about when, you know, when she, you know, the
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  diaphrag story, which kinda sits with me.
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  And anybody that's not heard her talk about that, she talks about you know, her struggles
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  and how real it was when she was starting off and that she had to do something different
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  because the legacy to her son was that he was not going to go through this, if she has.
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  But what, what, what an inspiration when I, I watched, her story.
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  Yes.
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  Lisa is, for those that aren't familiar, Lisa is the lady from the secret with the big orange
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  app row.
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  That, her story was before she found CEO space.
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  She was a junior high dropout single mom living in South Central LA, dodging, literally dodging
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  bullets on her way to and from school, from gangs.
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  And she wanted out of that life.
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  She didn't know how.
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  She's another one.
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  She couldn't figure out the, you know, she couldn't afford CEO space, certainly, and we
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  helped her raise the capital to get there.
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  And she came, the over 48 times to CEO space.
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  Lisa, got to a point where she is now able to teach capital back then.
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  She didn't understand it.
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  She break down crime, etcetera.
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  I can't do this.
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  We were able to connect her with chicken soup for the soul.
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  She did chicken soup for the African American soul.
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  She, layer did.
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  She was the 1st woman in the history of publishing I'm sorry.
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  Not the first.
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  She was the second woman to receive a $1,000,000 advance on her first solo release,
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  which was no matter what, which came out of CEO space.
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  She launched the CEO space.
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  But the first woman had far more advantages than Lisa did.
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  The first woman was Hillary Clinton as they were leaving the White House after all the blue
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  dress scandal or whatever you wanna call it.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  So there was reason for that.
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  Lisa was it was her trials and trying up in her story and no matter what and being a no matter
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  what mindset on how to get you there, And, it it's incredible, and and we're excited that, we
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  may be seeing more of Lisa that CEO space than we have in the last couple of years, and it's
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  always good when when somebody does come back home.
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  What an inspiration, you know, just when you really listen to her path and how much she
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  shares and, you know, the steps that she took and that's you know, where she's gotten out,
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  and she talks so much about authenticity.
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  And that that's the key with the more people get an essence of who you are That's what you
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  relate to.
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  And like you said earlier, Dave, not everybody's gonna be into her story, right, but
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  she found her tribe.
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  You know, and, you know, with us at, the event that's coming up on the 22nd, is that
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  authenticity to have leaders recognize it have entrepreneurs recognize that connection is key
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  to be able to kind of, you know, leverage and be able to move along versus kind of you know,
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  being stratified and feeling like they have to be in competition.
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  There's there's enough for everybody, and everybody has a message and, you know, you will
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  find the right people based on the message that that you're you're putting out in the world.
• 29:22
  Absolutely.
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  And that's another thing people will experience is that cooperation.
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  We've proved it for over 30 years that it does work even, all views real estate as an example,
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  because almost everybody knows someone in real estate.
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  We'll take 2 people from the same industry, 2 realtors, for example.
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  If they work in competition, they're fighting like dogs over a bone for scraps.
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  Mhmm.
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  And it makes it rough.
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  But if we teach them cooperation, how to work together, they'll make far more together than
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  they ever would alone working against each other.
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  Even if they're with 2 totally different firms.
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  It's amazing.
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  And, again, comes back to the human spirit.
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  It comes back to cooperation.
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  It's teaching them how to do it.
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  And we will file.
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  I will say this to you.
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  Because it's easy to for through my experience, my observation, that We will find many miracles
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  that will come out of this exercise in the room.
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  There are going to people the people that will pick up business right on the spot.
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  There are going to be long lost, whatever's that have been able to connect through this
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  process.
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  It it's truly amazing.
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  And when we try to conceptualize it in our head, if we've done a lot of personal
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  development or business development as I have.
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  When I came across it, it makes it very tough because we try to figure it out from everything
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  else that we've done or learned or heard, etcetera.
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  And That's what hurt me.
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  It it created the skepticism.
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  But when I first experienced it, it was so simple and so amazing.
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  It was It was daunting that no one else had ever come close to be being able to create
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  something like this as Bernie Doorman did.
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  And by the way, I didn't answer fully your last question.
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  Bernie is still involved with CEO states.
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  He still does, still come around from time to time and he'll speak to groups.
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  He does host CEO space, now that we've moved it to his, near his home at Tarfin Springs,
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  Florida.
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  It makes it a lot easier.
• 31:52
  For 20 years, we were near LAF in Los Angeles in nine and a half years at Lake Las Vegas.
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  And then in 2016, moves our corporate or move our events, mirror our corporate headquarters,
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  which are in Tampa Bay Area.
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  Then we meet five times a year every March, May, July, October, December.
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  And I like most any other CEO space a a member about this time when it's getting this close to
• 32:26
  our May event, they're getting ready to come back to another free enterprise for them.
• 32:32
  Awesome.
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  Well, I'm excited.
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  I can't wait to because I'm I wanna get involved in, experience Snap.
• 32:38
  It sounds like and I know I've talked to Elena.
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  She's obviously been involved.
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  Elena Chapman is the, one of the, international speakers that will be there.
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  PJ Gaz is also a psychologist that will be involved, and everybody has been through it.
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  And they, you know, they've, they've tried to explain it to me, but I think you've done a
• 32:55
  little bit more of a, you know, giving me a better understanding.
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  So any for anybody listening, please come out you know, you'll have the pleasure of meeting,
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  Dave.
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  Obviously, we have our, Brian Cuban, who will be speaking, also at our events.
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  And we're, so we have a really good lineup.
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  And I think, we'll get a lot of, of that day, in spending the time together.
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  Now, Dave, if anybody wants to get ahold of you, please tell them where they can get ahold
• 33:25
  of you.
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  They can obviously come and meet you in person and, I know I can tell, that we're all gonna
• 33:32
  have, you know, lots of time to be able to mingle and, connect, where can people get a
• 33:37
  hold of you if they want more information even before for the event, and then hopefully, like,
• 33:41
  out on the 22nd to meet you in in in, Mississauga.
• 33:46
  Yeah.
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  Because, the email address my corporate email address is almost the 35 letters long.
• 33:52
  I'm gonna give the easiest.
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  It's daphillipsen, all one word, at gmail, just use my personal account.
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  I can do it that.
• 34:00
  They can, contact me through you as well, or they can text or they can, call 714-8869 CEO or
• 34:10
  9236.
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  Or find me on Twitter at Trustgate.
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  Okay.
• 34:22
  Awesome.
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  Well, this has been amazing.
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  I'm I'm you know, you're the first, interview for the event and, we're, yeah, so we're
• 34:31
  wrapping up and, you know, I started with, the marketing yesterday.
• 34:36
  Brian Cuban's.
• 34:37
  He's a he's excited and he's, you know, can't wait to meet with everyone also of course, I
• 34:42
  know you know Elena and, and, PGA very well.
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  And obviously, myself being on stage will be a pleasure to be able to share the stage with all
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  of you.
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  So, till we meet, on the 22nd.
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  Thanks so much for being here.
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  I know you've provided a lot to my listeners.
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  And, you know, if anything, when I listen to Dave, I recognize it's all about, like you
• 35:07
  said, the human spirits.
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  And when I speak on authenticity, with leaders, I talk about the importance of the bigger
• 35:14
  picture.
• 35:14
  If people can get a sense of who you are, they'll do things, like you said, people sleep,
• 35:20
  you know, slept to places like, the headquarters of Apple because they bought into
• 35:24
  the big, into other why of what why things were being done versus it being a transaction.
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  As human beings, we need to feel like we're part of a bigger cause.
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  With, I look forward to, you know, the events, on the June 22nd.
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  There will be a link attached to the end of this podcast.
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  And if you need anything, please feel, free to reach out to me at roxanne@rogsandervlarge
• 35:51
  dotcom, or you can reach me on Facebook, or Twitter, or LinkedIn.
• 35:56
  Okay.
• 35:56
  Again, Dave, thanks so much, and, we'll look forward to connecting soon.
• 36:01
  Take care.