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JRE MMA Show _182 - Protect Ya Neck · Luke's English Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Check it out. But Joe Logan Experience Train by Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan Podcast by Night all day.
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  Speaker 3: So your boy tom it was awesome, good. He was
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: really cool. Yeah, actually listening on the way out to
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  Speaker 3: that one. He's really fun. Tommy Lee is fun. He's
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  Speaker 3: like a big kid man. He is kid. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: a fifteen year old that's just never, you know, never
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: growing all the way up. He did famous when he
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: was eighteen zacht so he really never had to grow up.
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  Speaker 3: He just stayed Tommy Lee. Yeah, I'm glad you finally
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  Speaker 3: got to have him on. It was very cool, So
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: it's good. It's weirdly he's really in a bonz eye trees,
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  Speaker 3: oh big time crazy, got like one hundred year olds.
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  Speaker 3: Find his uh his you make him yourself his yard
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  Speaker 3: will he sets up like a.
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  Speaker 4: Whole like zen garden type of it's pretty wild. But
• 0:53
  Speaker 4: he's he's been into those and he likes to trim
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  Speaker 4: him up and uh, you know, it's pretty pretty wild.
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  Speaker 3: He's just he's a positive.
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  Speaker 4: Energy, nice guy like he's never never been and my
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: you know, what do you want to say interactions with him?
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  Speaker 4: Never he's never been a dick never, he never just
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  Speaker 4: he was cool to work for.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I only worked I met him rather when you
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  Speaker 3: were working with him, when you were his bodyguard, and then, uh,
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  Speaker 3: this is the other time I met him. So he's
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  Speaker 3: super cool, nice, good.
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  Speaker 4: I remember him in the car in the car, remember
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  Speaker 4: his peckers as tall as you are.
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  Speaker 1: I remember him huge with Pam.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a lot of advantages in this life, doesn't he.
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  Speaker 3: Good Lord, god damn person and one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the greatest drummers of all time. That was one
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: of the first sex tapes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Celebrities celebrities allow them to get famous afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they were already famous. That was what I was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Both of them were super fanous.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean allowed like to keep the catapult them
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  Speaker 5: into like a different stratosphere.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Well, anytime one of them solebrities dating another celebrity,
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  Speaker 3: it's like they're fucking superpowers unite. Yeah right right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, who's fun, dude. The tree thing is wild though,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. These people they have like one
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  Speaker 3: hundred year old trees, two hundred year old tree, three
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  Speaker 3: hundred year old bonds eye trees, and they pass them
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  Speaker 3: down through generations.
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  Speaker 1: They have like paperwork.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, like, who's the guy who first started
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  Speaker 3: the tree? And they've got these trees that are like
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  Speaker 3: several hundred years old and they're like this big, and
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  Speaker 3: they're in like a pot are trimming.
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  Speaker 1: It's all like an artistic thing.
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  Speaker 3: They're trimming them in certain patterns and every time they
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  Speaker 3: try to grow, you trim them down and they just
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  Speaker 3: like tighten up and it makes a weird form. It
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  Speaker 3: comes back pretty cool looking. Yeah. Actually I wonder if.
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  Speaker 1: The tree likes it, though, Like, hey, motherfucker, three hundred
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  Speaker 1: years old, I'm sixteen inches tall. This is what.
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  Speaker 4: He's had such a crazy, high paced life that to
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  Speaker 4: the yang, you know what I mean, that's how he relaxes.
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  Speaker 3: I loved hearing it. It sounded perfect. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you found a great thing. And you see he's a
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  Speaker 3: gearhead too, like you. So yeah, he was talking about cars.
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  Speaker 3: First cars he bought. He bought an old Corvette. Was
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  Speaker 3: got a fucking supercharger put on it. Yeah, he's a maniac.
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  Speaker 4: He's definitely a maniac, but he's a very nice.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was the drummer from Motley Crewe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't can't even at eighteen. Can't even imagine what
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  Speaker 3: that must have been like, must have been insane.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of these guys they don't want to stop
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  Speaker 6: touring all these rock and rolls.
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  Speaker 3: Why would they want to?
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  Speaker 1: But though some of them. I saw some clips. Who
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  Speaker 1: the fuck was David Roth? No, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: the guy from A C d C.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if yah.
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  Speaker 4: A c DC my favorite, one of my favorite all
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  Speaker 4: time bands. And Brian Johnson struggling about that screaming style
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  Speaker 4: he has?
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  Speaker 3: Wow, to keep that? Do you keep that going? Like
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  Speaker 3: no acting or vocal coach whatever tell you you could
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  Speaker 3: sing like that? I don't think so. You just.
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  Speaker 1: Can't fucking scream like that. I wonder if they get
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  Speaker 1: like sixty year old groupies.
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  Speaker 3: Year old groupies and that flame they're keeping that flame
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  Speaker 3: lit since the eighties, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But do they have like new groupies though? Of course,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know there's no way they know like
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  Speaker 1: doesn't But what what is his name? Jesus Christ Rolling Stones?
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  Speaker 1: I forget what Mick Jagger?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know Mick Jagger has a kid that's really young,
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  Speaker 3: Like Mick Jagger just had a kid like really recently. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's like in his eighties, I was thinking of someone else,
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: though someone else is another There's a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 3: like that, like Alpa Chino just.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. But a lot of older guys
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  Speaker 1: like that, they wind up having kids, like they're still
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  Speaker 1: obviously getting young chicks to fuck them.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of irresponsible, mean, but maybe crazy. You don't
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  Speaker 4: take care of the kid. But maybe it's the young
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  Speaker 4: chick that wants the kids that's yours.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still if you did it on purpose. If
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  Speaker 1: you're the guy and you did it on purpose, that's wild.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even want to be around.
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  Speaker 3: You have this kid at eighty it's more important than
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  Speaker 3: my jeans pass on than i'd be there for my child.
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  Speaker 1: Think about that. By the time you're eighty five, you're
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  Speaker 1: probably gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, by the time you're eighty five, you won't
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  Speaker 3: even see your kid go to school. You'll be five
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  Speaker 3: years old and the kid, you know, the kid will
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  Speaker 3: be five years old and the dad dies.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe the maybe the wife wanted it. You leave something
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  Speaker 6: behind type of thing. Maybe it's better than.
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  Speaker 1: Not doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, But also, if you're a fucking rational eighty year old,
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: take care of yourself. You keep your own ship in
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  Speaker 3: your pants.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be both of the diapers. He sent the
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  Speaker 1: kids to the park, ranging the kids diapers and yours.
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  Speaker 1: B Are you gonna break a hip and your toddler.
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  Speaker 3: Is gonna be screaming and no one will hear it, right,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna be alone with them at the park.
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  Speaker 3: You're lying there bleeding internally from a broken hip, and
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  Speaker 3: the kid's gonna walk off five years old, yeah, three
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  Speaker 3: year old wander off and you're eighties nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, longo, you got him upset because.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, man, I've been feeling good. He's like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm at the gym every day and the gonna fucking
• 6:35
  Speaker 6: I turned on Rogan and he's bitching about being fifty eight.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck he's sixty eight. Oh He's like, yeah, yo, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's playing fifty eight. He's really sixty eight. He looks great,
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: he looks real stre Oh I got dark ass hair, right,
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: I know, right, and he don't have he don't have
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: Reagan hair. He's he's looking he's looking good.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: And then he asked me about it. What the fuck?
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  Speaker 3: Because Ronald Reagan had dark hair, like deep in Like second,
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  Speaker 3: my ship is all white.
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  Speaker 1: If I grew my if I had hair and I
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: grew it out, it'd be all great. Really. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Mostly it's like my face, like my figure is my stubble.
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  Speaker 3: It's like at least sixty percent gray.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, mine, it's all right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird something about a gray beard. It's like
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  Speaker 3: you're just saying fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I just santed trimming it down. I
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it. It looks when I see
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  Speaker 3: myself in the mirror with a gray beard, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: who the fuck are you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's supposed to have a dark beard, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I had a dark beard most of my life. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at pictures and I'm like a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: ago and it's dark. Now it's all gray, Like, what
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  Speaker 1: the fuck happens?
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  Speaker 6: They had a thing on A and E with me
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  Speaker 6: and George and they had showed a clip of me
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  Speaker 6: and you talking.
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  Speaker 1: I still we both had hair. Yeah, crazy, it looked crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird.
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  Speaker 3: You look at what You're just slowly slipping into the grave.
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  Speaker 3: We're looking good though, because as all the weekend. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: compared to people that don't take care of themselves and
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  Speaker 3: also compared to people from the past, that's what I did.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I don't think about like in the eighties,
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  Speaker 1: what forty year olds looked like in eighties, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think the like martial arts also helps. Like
• 8:21
  Speaker 4: we just had an event Henzo's thirtieth anniversary, this academy
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  Speaker 4: in the US, and they invited all the ogs, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, we were seen guys hadn't seen a decade,
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  Speaker 4: got a fifth degree.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I got that's amazing. And uh, I mean
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: we were talking like almost said everybody looked good, everybody, everybody,
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  Speaker 3: and there was continue to train sixty guys there. It's
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: the thing is that you you got to maintain, and
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: if you don't maintain, you're never getting it back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you don't. You don't get you can't like at fifty,
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  Speaker 3: you can't take three years off like star. It's just
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  Speaker 3: too hard to get back. And if you never worked
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  Speaker 3: out before and you're like forty six and you're starting now,
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: that's a hard road. Man, you've never worked out before,
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  Speaker 3: Like first of all, go slow, Yeah, yeah, break everything
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  Speaker 3: well that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: People want to jump right in and then you get
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  Speaker 4: hurt or get busted up a little bit, and then
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: you just defeats you know what I mean, You're like this,
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: which is the big get injured.
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  Speaker 3: The big reality about age is how long it takes
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  Speaker 3: to heal something. My kids get hurt, they just fucking
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: heal up like wolverine. It's nuts, Like with a few
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  Speaker 3: days and all my shoulders fine again. Like you fucking
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: just a backflip and lay on your shoulder. You're right,
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  Speaker 3: I would be fucked up for a year. Yeah, they
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: just they just heal quicker. They're alive.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the fucking truth. That's the truth, man. Truth.
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  Speaker 1: That's the number one thing that happens as you get older.
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  Speaker 6: If your lifers like us, you just got to be
• 9:48
  Speaker 6: smart about your training. Like you know, I got young savages.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want I don't fucking I choose who I
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  Speaker 6: want to roll with. Like you know, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be that guy to fucking just slay everybody
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: on the mat because you're gonna break. You'll break, you know.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: It's like you have a corvette you're taking around the track.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: You can only do so many laps. Every car, even
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: Formula one cars that cost one hundred million dollars, they break.
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  Speaker 3: You can only go so far, so fast, so long
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  Speaker 3: before you blow a rod. You got some shit goes sideways.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody I know is at surgery can't.
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  Speaker 5: But everybody like for me, like when I'm in Philly
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  Speaker 5: with the crew, Brady and Pypher and them, like, it's
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: hard being in a room with these guys because they
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: want to grab you and do moves on you, and
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: I'm like, chill out, man, just grab one of the
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  Speaker 5: younger guys.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: The last guy you want grabbing you is Brady.
• 10:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jesus, he gets on top of you, just start
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  Speaker 7: squeezing you will his that fucking fight with Joaquin Buckley,
• 10:44
  Speaker 7: I was like, holy shit, man, yeah, Bro was whole.
• 10:47
  Speaker 8: It was.
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  Speaker 1: The level of domination was like shocking.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so this is his best form,
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: Like this is him at his best, at his best
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: is fucking Terrible's little inconsis didn't The Morales fight was tough,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: but when and he said it's like his head wasn't
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: in it. But when his fucking head is in it, and.
• 11:07
  Speaker 5: He's like dialed in for sure, man, he's like when
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: he grabs you row like he'll squeeze you and.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: You just start making like a little noise like he did.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: A leon and what he did the walking and you're like,
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: holy shit, man, what is that like?
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: That was beautiful, beautiful.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Explosive an athlete is like everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: They went, he was just following him one step ahead.
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  Speaker 1: It was like no escape. Yeah, yeah, he don't want
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  Speaker 1: you out man.
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: Smush yeah, he just gets smushed back is so big.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: He just gets so much coverage over you when he's
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: on top of.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: You and the balance it's just every he's just like
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: so many steps ahead of them on the ground that
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: the one time it really looked like.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: A cardio drill, like he was on the top. It
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: looked like he was just kidding out placid face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: super calm. I believe where they were he wasn't allowed
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: to do to twelve to six elbows. Oh that's so crazy.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: That's where I ride or wrong something like so this.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I think Jerseys still like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Places that are like that. And it's so dumb. Are
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: still using the old unified rules. It's so dumb like
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: that that rule doesn't make any sense if it's you know,
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: soccer kicks, Okay, you want to have a debate, But
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: if you can elbow this way and this way and
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: this way, but you can't go this way, that's just retarded.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody else is doing it, so why would you
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: not do it? It doesn't make sense.
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: And you have to remember what state you're in, So
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: like when you're in the fight and you're on instinct
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: and the guys like this, but it's wide open for
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: a twelve six elbow. You're supposed to they're for safety's sake,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: and the fighters and the referee's ability to make a
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: decision have consistency in the rule set. It's just another elbow.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. This one elbow. That's outlaw.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I don't know what.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: You can knee the hell out of somebody in their face.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: You could run o god and some of the craziest
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: knockouts we've ever seen income from that. Like we were
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: just talking about maz Vidal versus asking the.
• 13:03
  Speaker 6: Other oh man, Hey, he's supposed to be wrestling again,
• 13:09
  Speaker 6: Is that is that a good idea?
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: No? Talking the other day.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, when he was talking, he was coughing a lot,
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, you, listen, when you're people who are athletes,
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  Speaker 6: they're afraid of wrestling because it's exhausting. They don't want
• 13:24
  Speaker 6: to feel that that burn in their lungs. You really
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: want to push yourself like that. I worry about it. I
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: just don't want him to get totally with you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he had double lung transplant surgery, Like how
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: long ago?
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  Speaker 1: I was like a year ago, maybe two years ago,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: maybe two years ago.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I'd be worried about infection. Yeah, I'd be worried about everything.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: And I would also be worried if you're doing that,
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to take immunosuppressant drugs in order
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: to keep someone else's organs inside of you. So you're
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: going to go out and to the giants.
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  Speaker 1: My friend cheap.
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  Speaker 3: You know, CT had a heart transplant and he has
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: to take medication to keep this heart in his body,
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: keep his body from rejecting it. And he has a
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: bunch of complications from their medication makes him swell, and
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: he posts videos and pictures about it like it's a
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: serious thing and he had to be real careful during COVID,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Like you have a heart transplant, and then you're on
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: immuno subescent drugs and then all of a sudden or a
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: bad flu like anything bad will fucking kill you because
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: your immune system is working in a weird way because
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: it's trying to keep someone else's heart inside of you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: your body is like, who's this fucking heart? Right heart
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: to shut it out? Your body's like, this is a disease,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: which is wild that your body knows, like it recognizes that,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: and we're just like, no, we can, we can hack nature,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: shove it in there and give you some drugs that
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: make your body stay alive.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I think it was below Mohammed. Maybe he has like
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: an agreement together.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: They did use the training again, so their friends maybe
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: that's the deal. So we were just reading about this
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  Speaker 3: last night. Two people have had pig hearts transplanted in
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: their body. No way. Yeah. One guy stayed alive I
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: think for sixty days and one guy stayed alive for
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: forty days.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Did they gain a lot of weight?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: They shoveling their face in the trash.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: They put a pig heart in another human being.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: There's a bunch of doctors because apparently pig's hearts for
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: some reason, are similar in function to a human heart.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: Sheep's vagina, they do they do.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: That, I heard too, So a pig's heart. Yeah, that's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: fucking that's fucking crazy.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. And so they did it on two people. Yeah,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: but either way, the whole thing of transplanting organs from
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: other people is like super risky and dangerous, and once
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: it's working, the number of Like we looked at heart transplants,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is for lung double lung transplants,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: but it look you look at mortality over a period
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: of years, and so it's like ninety one percent of
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: the people survived the first year, and then it starts
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and then it starts going down, So nine percent of
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: the people die after the heart transplant, but then it
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: starts to go down after you know, that's for the
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: first year. When it gets to five years, then you're
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: in the eighties or the nineties, and then the eighties
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: and it keeps dipping, it keeps dipping until like at
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: ten years, it's like half of them are dead.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're buying some time, right, But.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Now it's also what about others?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Good it's a good question, So what is it like
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: for double lung transplant. I don't know, but I would
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: imagine it's fragile.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Man, you want to put that in the fucking red
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: you want to push that. It felt like yesterday, who's
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: making laps around the hospital floor?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And that's a dude.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: He's a win her right, And that's the problem. Like
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: sometimes when you're a winner, your your will is so
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: strong that you think you could force your body into
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: unrealistic expectations. There's got to be some agreements.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, God, just in my mind. Too cheated he I
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: mean basically you cheated death. Yes, your family. Now you
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: have your family back. You understand you have a second chance.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Like why would you put that at risk to do something?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe him and nothing to prove?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Like friendly? What's kind of what I wrestling? Friendly wrestling?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's an animal, can't ask.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they have an agreement with each other.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I think did somebody told hey, listen, man, don't push
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: this dude?
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Well he said like I saw an interview where he said, bro,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Like his first question was, what are you talking about?
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Can he wrestles even been cleared?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: So I would I would not accept that if I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was like.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: The pros and this is no disrespect to Askrin. It's like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I think that guy's an animal. Like I was one
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: of the biggest promoters of trying to get Askron into
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the UFC when he was a champion of Bellator in
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the art and then when he went over to one
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and the argument was like he was boring, and I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: was like, no, he's not boring. It's crazy that he
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: could do this to these guys. Yeah, he could take
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: guys like Douglas Lima and just ragged them to the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: ground and they can't do shit to him. Christcoff, Yeah,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: yeah he was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He wasn't boring at all. He was destroyed guys.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doling the Yes, they had zero chance in him
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: not taking them down.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It was zero chance. And it was beautiful, right.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like Alex Pereira flying knee and somebody in
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the face, but it's still another way.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: To win a man and a child. Yes, yeah, it
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: was crazy good. He was crazy good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And then we got him like a little late, right,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: We got him when he already had hip problems and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: he eventually had to get a hip replacement after he
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: got out of the UFC. You know, he had already
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: been fifteen years in combat sports, and then all the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: years of wrestling and like, but those when he was
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: running shit at Belator, he was a motherfucker.
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• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It's fight with Damien Maya that was fucking awesome, amazing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That's a great note.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: What's the beautiful thing about that fight is that both
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: it's almost like the closest thing to style verse style
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: that we could have nowadays.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they're both.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: So brilliant at the way they use their art, with
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: him with his wrestling and him with a jiu jitsu.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: And in that fight you got you got to see
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: some of that with Ben, you got to see the datedowns,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: you got to see an uma plotter reversal and like Lakoshi.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Reversal, I mean, beautiful jiu jitsu. H It was just
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: such a it was such a great fight, dude.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Dami and Maia got fucked harder than anybody ever got
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: fucked by a referees decision Tomorrow.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Ye ever, nobody got fucked harder than Damien.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Who was it?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and maybe we shouldn't even pull the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: name up. Boys like that. Man, I gotta see him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I want to think. I don't remember that. I don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: remember who it was, but I think it's a guy
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: who doesn't do it in the UFC anymore. But he
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: had him on his back, one hook in over under.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: He had gotten to a position where like, you're fucked,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you're dry, and you got the best back specialist in
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the UFC. Damian Maya was the way he ran through
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Neil Magnet, like, oh shit, man, his jiu jitsu is
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: so high level and for you to get off, get
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: him off. And Tomorrow's one loss right was to make
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a hub.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Brother. So it's like, how many years ago was that like?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And now you're fighting Damian Maya and he's got your back,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: You're in danger, You're in danger, and the referee separated
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: on me.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Never got to that spot again. Kamorrow played it nice.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: He fought a great fight, won the fight, and you're like, damn,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Damien had him. He had him in a like not
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: nine out of ten, but he had him in like
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a six out of ten spot for him. Yeah, like
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: half the time he gets your back and you're dry
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: and you're not at his level of jiu jitsu, you're in.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Fuck you should never you could, You should never separate
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: anybody from that position.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I know you're a big proponent of not standing people up,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: but especially special positions that it requires time to get.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: To the idea that a guy can defend it for
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: a few seconds in the crowd booze, and that's enough
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: for you to make them neutral again.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Fuck you. It's so hard to get to tomorrow. Tomorrow,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I know its back like that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: And the tightness is what keeps that position in any
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: space he makes and gone.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Mean the amount of times in the history of Tomorrow's
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: entire all the user competition where people got him in
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: disadvantageous grappling positions, I can't think of this. Very few,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: very few, Yeah, Jamiah, but Jamiah, he was winning the
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: third round.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Well, so.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It came like that is a fight where here he
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: is here he is this is.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Crazy, oh ship.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: All right? So it sucks back it up again so
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: you can see how good the position was.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: A little hook, can you get it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: A little further back. Yeah, here, so I want to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: see it, like Ndy starts entangling. This is so bad
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: for tomorrow.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You have to understand how.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Bad this is. This is a This is not just
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: simply he's like behind you and the progression, but he.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Was just about to beat that wizard.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Bro. Look how good this looks too. Maya is just
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a gorilla. His wrestling was underestimated too, Like he was
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: just so it was technical in everything, and this use
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: of leverage and his positioning was always perfect. It just
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: was so beautiful to want. When you see a guy
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: just super high level jiu jitsu in the UFCA, you
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, this is beautiful to watch.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love how methodical he's working his way into
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: this dangerous Oh my god, he was gonna step in now.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Look at this. That arm is the only thing and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he's just about to beat that arm and that from
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: here he could just start beating on the right hand,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: which you'll probably start doing.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: So if the referee really stands him up from this
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: position like this is a This is a crazy way
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: to separate people. This is bad, man, This is like
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: for tomorrow. This is super dangerous. Hanging on to that wizard,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: for dear life is the only thing from keeping him
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: from getting this guy on your neck. That wizard is
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: like at forty power now because look how far.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Back is Yeah, not much into that. Yeah, there's not much.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard to generate power like that with tomorrow.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got full double underhooks.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Do they break this up? How do you break this up?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: This is crazy to break up like this is such
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: a dangerous position.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is bad. I don't recognize the ref Yeah
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I recognize. I'm not going to say his name no
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: means too. But this is a giant mistake herb. Sometimes
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: sometimes in fights, man, these guys listen to the crowd.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of hard not to write, and.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: They feel responsible and the organization. I'm sure they feel
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: pressure because the organization wants like fast action fights. But
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: there's certain situations where you you got to just accept
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: the fact that sometimes this sport is not the most
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: exciting for moments because it's so exciting in other spots
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: right there, right crazy, that's crazy. That's the worst fuck
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: over that anybody's ever gotten in the UFCA.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the one. There is time
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to fucking boost them ont they had to get it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty big fuck.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: That's who Meyer reminds me of. His striking wasn't as
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: good as Marillas, but their combination of wrestling and his
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: jiu jitsu, Like, once he got ahold of you, he
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: was probably gonna put you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Marilla was so good. He's still coming around. He's
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: got a fighter in the UFC. Now, nice does it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw him when I first started jiu jitsu
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: at Carlston Gracie's place, did you. Yeah, the very first
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: year that I started jiu jitsu, it was like him,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Vitour was there, Sergio Cohen, uh, Mario Sperry was crazy.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I had a ridiculous room of doubt and wound up
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: watching these guys train when like vtor was about to
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: make his UFC debut, I was just starting out. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: was like, this is amazing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: See all them guys in there. Dude, they were all
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Man, you could just come in off the street and
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: see the best jiu jitsu guys in the world training.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It was crazy, and it was all they were. They
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: were all fighting in there was the other what's his name, Carlostel,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: That's right, Carls Bato.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: He was there too.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: There was a bunch of those Carlson Gracie team guys
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that we just got lucky that this was the place. Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Man's yeah, built like a heat man figure.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Carlson had some savages. Man, he really had a great team.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was back then. That's why I got
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: my black belt from Laboro.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, that's another guy to be proud. He's a
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: good guy, such a nice guy. Yeah, it's like, uh,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: it's kind of amazing when he realized that before nineteen
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: ninety three, jiu jitsu had no schools.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Right and now and now they're every corner. That is
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that's truly insane, Like Gracie family, Like the world owes them, Yeah, no,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: worry about it owes them. The world, the whole world.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: World is impacted. I think of the world, the world,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the whole world, Yeah, everybody.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Because I think liking MMA has impacted culture, and then
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: people training much more, people training in jiu jitsu has
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: impacted culture. Hell yeah, where the fun would we be?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Like the UFC's here because of the Gray season as well.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I mean obviously the fatigua is in Dana, but you
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: have a whole target, the whole thing. He would have
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: a crocodile mode around.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: I remember hearing about it in nineteen ninety two with
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Horion and Hoist the seminar I went to and they
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: were talking about that. They were talking about the different ideas,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: what they were gonna do.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And I, even though I didn't think they were full
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of shit, I thought it was never gonna happen. I'm like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: what is this blood sport? I go on TV. They're
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be fighting.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: It sounded ridiculous, But now everybody's so used to it,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: it sounds ridiculous that it sounds ridiculous.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I when I first found out about it, I didn't
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: watch it until it was UFC two because I will
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: only watch some videotape like something from the gym told
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: me about it, and I went and watched it ot
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the videotape like Hollywood Video. Brought it home and I
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, they did it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: They did That's what I did, Like, they pulled this off.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: No, they did the thing that we always wanted. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: when I was when I first started, yeah, I first
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: started taking karate, and I thought karate was good until
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I stumbled into this really good taeg Windows school and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh tag Windows and ship. And then
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I started boxing. I'm like, oh my god, I can't box.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: And then I started kickboxing. I'm like, oh my god,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you kick my legs. I didn't know you can kick
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: my legs. This is terrible. And then I started doing
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: jiu jitsu, like, oh my god, I'm helpless. So it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: like all these steps along the way, I was like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't been nice if we knew what style was real.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And this is what Bruce Ley tried and bro. When
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I was starting out in like eighty eight doing taekwond
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: nobody knew nothing, nobody knew what worked. Everybody just like, sorry,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: that guy beats people in that thing and that guy
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: be I wondered what happened to though no one knew.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I saw was worthless, worthless. Yeah, But luckily I learned
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: it was not worthless in high school when I got
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: my ask.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Kids too pass it on a fucking wooden dummy to
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: change my ass, That's all I know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And every time but here a real scrap, I'd go
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: back to my season of eighth grade wrestling. That's the case.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But I also think that wing chung would work if
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you knew all the other Like Anderson Silva can use
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: wing chung, right, you know what I'm saying about of
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: hand trapping, Yeah, there's hand trapping and elbows from him
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: entire there's stuff that does.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Work if you know all the other shit. It's an
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: added element.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Right, It's like there's there's moves that you could do
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that you're just your opponent's not gonna Your opponent is
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: used to this, right, there are used to punches like
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: regular punches. Every now and then weird shit can work
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: because they don't see it coming, and then it opens
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: up other big shots and ring chung can those guys
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: when you watch the really good ones like whack at
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: each other's arms and shit, you're.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Like, Okay, there's like a little value in this.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: There's a little value in getting good at this as
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: long as you know how to actually punch. Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I don't dismiss nothing, because anything can work in the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: right context.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: It's just not gonna work on Terrence Crawford. Not.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: A boxing match against Terrence Crawford is not when anyway,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: no one has figured that out. No one has figured
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that out that much.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Listen, you can have fun with it. But as far
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: as value, I'd say very little.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Value, very little, because it's only value if you're going
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: to do any other stuff.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're going to do that, you might as
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: well be doing muay Thai, western boxing or jiu jitsu.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: No, for sure, by itself useless. But what I think
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: is if you are you're doing other stuff, and you
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: could train with a guy who can show you some
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: of it, I think you would be like, oh, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: see value in this. Like do you remember when Dan
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Henderson was fighting Hector Lombard and he hit him.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: With like a back elbow.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like back fore arm, it was an
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: elbow or four it was an elbow.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I threw a punching can.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Sometimes people do standing backfist sometimes and they work. There's
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: some ship that we're missing, and like the I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: wing chung is a part of it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, Like especially like when you're
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: in close, like in clinching positions, you're just like trapping hands.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I think is the number one thing
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that people need should be doing, the number one thing
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that people should be doing is point fighting karate. You
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: want to add something, I mean, not obviously not number
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: one over wrestling and all that, but number.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: One thing to add. Don't add wing chung at the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: point fate. But it's but it's such a physical thing
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people probably can't do, especially if
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you come from a wrestling background where you're so used
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to being like heavy square to be able to turn
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: sideways and jumping out like but.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: If you can do it, that advantage is so huge.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: When you watch like m VP when he's in his product.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Bullet.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the thing about the elbow crazy, What a
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: beautiful elbow from a wrestling position.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: We see that again.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: How do you land it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: So?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, his leg Look at that, he's holding his
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: legs and he catches. Look at the fucking elbow.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Fantastic, What a fucking that's one of the greatest elbows
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: of all time, underappreciated elbow. To get a knockout elbow
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: while you're hopping.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: On one leg, yeah, that's crazy. Fighting off the takedown.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nasty, nasty. But when I was getting
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to is these guys like m VP, that advantage is
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: so huge. The advantage of being Wonderbuly in his prime. Bro,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: that advantage is so nuts.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Well, so I watch videos of people doing it online.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like, if you could do that in a m
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: a thing, no one will.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Catch you, right, You'll be in and out before they
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: catch to it. Zero Gone, that's true, is not a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: point fighting karate? Guys may tied.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Buddy's a basketball player, and we were talking about this
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the other day, like, what better sport to develop pliometrics
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: and the ability to change direction than basketball. You're constantly
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: changing direction and they're big, man.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Then why can't basketball players fight? They don't train. That's true,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: it's just because they don't train. But Cyril, Gone, you
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: look at the way he moves like he moves like
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: a basketball player can move. But he's two hundred and
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: fifty pounds and he's.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: A heavyweight and he can fucking strike.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I remember I used to train Walt Harris, who was
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: a pretty good basketball player, and I used.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: To always try to tell him, man, it's the same thing.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Your pivots are the same. You gotta be able to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: move change directions. It's the same thing. But as a heavyweight,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it also comes with being lazy. Yes, those guys are
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just lazy. Well, it's harder to.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: It's harder to move all that weight, right, It's like
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: it's hard to get a two hundred and forty eight
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: pound guy to move like Cyial Gone. There's not a whole.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Lot of them. We were just talking about it the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's an underappreciated thing because we're used to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: lighterweight fighters moving like that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, name one, name one guy at heavyweight
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: he moves like that. You know who used to, you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: used to.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Was the dark horse of the heavyweight division, Travis fucking Brown.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: When Travis Brown was in his prime, he was a
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: bad motherfucker dude, and he moved light. He was a big,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: tall dude and he moved light. He had some you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: wars and they take their toll on you. But if
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: you go back to like Travis Brown in his heyday
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: when he was knocking people out with those elbows from
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: the trench and the way he would move like, he
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: would move like super light on his feet, like bouncing around.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And I think it was because he played basketball. It's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: gotta be.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: It makes sense because I know Travis played basketball. You know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: he said, when you get a big athlete that's light
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: on their feet.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That's a giant.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: It is because you know he needs one entrance that
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: you didn't anticipate when you get popped, and now you're compromised.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Getting that first step and being able to get a shot.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Dude, those karate point I've only fought a couple of
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: karate point fights when I was a kid, when I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: was doing taek window tournaments. We would enter into him
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and I thought, this one guy that was like, his
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: name was Mafia Holloway.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: He was like a champion.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I couldn't even touch him. I couldn't even get close
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: to him. The first name was Mafia Holloway.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: It was a very famous I don't know if it
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was a real name, but that's what his name was
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: back in He was like a well known black belt
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: point fighting champion.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I couldn't even touch him. I was like, Jesus, we're
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: playing totally different games. I'm playing a continuous fighting game,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: which where you're you know, you fight in tag window
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: for a certain amount of minutes, and he's playing this
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: thing where you stop every time they hit you, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: so you can't hit him, and he keeps hitting you,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and it's just stop stop, stop stopping.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It's so frustrating.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But I remember leaving going, oh, I need to learn that,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Like that's crazy. I didn't know you could move that
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: quick and just jump out of there the way he's doing.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, and you think about like these guys
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: that fight him, like Kevin Holland that fight MVP.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: After a while, they're like, what the fuck is this?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: He was in his corner saying that, like.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He's quicker than I thought.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: What am I doing here?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: This is nuts?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: You just can't do anything to him. He's styling on you.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Steven Thompson, wonder boy, we did so.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I knew the mistake that everybody was making. They were
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: using just regular tall kickboxers. I went to karate schools
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: and we got just karate kids that did that for
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: him to spar with.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, don't worry about takedowns. We don't
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: even need to get there. Just be able to deal
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: with this movement and his length and being able to
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: deal with that because it's different. What is this? Oh shit, yeah,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: it's got a crazy kick here. Dude was very good
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: there is he was very good. He didn't get me
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: with that. He got me with a couple of sidekicks
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to the body.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Though, I tell you that I was very impressed. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: was impressed by the speed in which he was able
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: to like move forward and back, because that darting in
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and just tagging each other speed is a totally different
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: speed than like continuous fighting speed. Because continuous fighting speed,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: you would assume that if the guy's hitting you, that
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: you're going to counter and you're gonna exchange. And what
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: these guys are used to is you never exchange. They
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: just pop you. They pop you, and they get the
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: fuck out of there.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: And that's that's at just knock somebody out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It's a giant asset.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Also, it's like if you try to play their game,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you just try to play their game just to realize
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: how hard it is, and you're like, oh, this is
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: a crazy this is a different thing. This is all
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: about the blitz, it's all about the entry. They switched
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: stances at will too, at will at will. You know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: but I think all the good guys do now. I
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: think that's going to be a pre there's too many
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: calf kickers out there.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Got to be able to.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Do. You guys watch one you watch kickboxing, and one
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: did you see Jonathan Haggerty and Yuki Yosa. It wasn't
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: good for Haggart. He was no, he won, He figured
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: him out. Haggarty was He's the guy to beat that
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: dude that was wrecking everybody. Well, he's just a full
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: on moy Thai guy. But he beat him by continuous
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: movement and switching stances. Yeah, really technical fight, Like if
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you really like striking, it's a really technical fight. He
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: did an amazing job of just constantly giving them different
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: looks and switching stances and moving and then catching them
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: in exchanges. And dude, it was fucking beautiful because it
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: was a crushes everybody's legs.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: It was really sweet.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: He just kept switching, just kept switching stances, and he
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: did a lot of great boxing from the outside too.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: It was just but he never gave him the same look.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: See that switch away and on knees to the body,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of needs to the body. It was beautiful,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: brilliant fight. I was just chatting with him on Instagram.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get him on nice bring him
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to America, like it's this is what ZUFA should be promoting,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I know they love boxing. That's awesome.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm glad they're doing that, But you know, this is it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: If you want another thing that's really exciting, it's striking,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: just have only muay thaid.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just surprised they haven't done that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense because that's what everybody likes
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: to watch.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody. Dana said to me.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he changed his opinion, but he
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: said to me that people don't like kickboxing because they
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: think of like pKa Karate from ESPN, from like the
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighties.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's old people.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. Yeah, young people love
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: martial arts like young people love knockouts. Young people boo
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: when fights go to the ground. MMA is the best,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. It's the greatest sport of all times,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: the champion of sports. However, if you're gonna have some
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: value in another combat sport, it's moy time. It's the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: most exciting shit you could do, the most options you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: can need. They can throw each other, they do all
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: kinds of wild kicking.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: You think Rico Verhooven's boxing success will bring some eyes
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: to kickboxing at all.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I'm having him on two and I hope, so I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: hope that he's really phenomenal. I mean, dude, for ten rounds,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: he really he was into the point where if you
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: if you're good judges, if the judges are real, he
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Usik needs a knockout twin, which is.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: He was a grazed I thought he was up by eight,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: like eight the one or two at the time.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I thought the same.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: A lot of people thought the same. I mean he was.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: He was bullying him around us his weight.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Well, he shipped through himself and it was phenomenal because
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: he put my my style against Usk and it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Was Jim Carrey and it fucking what's the one where
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you know he came box and the guy look like
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: it too.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: It was fucking phenomenal. But man, he really did amazing.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I personally think if they rematch that now Usik will
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: like kind of figured him out, so maybe it'll happen.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: He'll get him faster. Look, I hope not, because I
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: was rooting for Rico. He rematched amazing. Rico was going
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to know that he can do that, Like before that fight,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: he didn't know he could do that, and Usik didn't
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: know he could do that. And the difference is Usik
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: is not a real heavyweight. He's the greatest heavyweight of
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: all time, which is crazy, but he's not a real heavyweight.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: He's you can't see the like Tyson, in my opinion,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: is always going to be my favorite. In his prime,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: he was just so insane. It was so insane to
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: watch him just demolish the whole division. But then you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: look at Cash's clay and then when he was Muhammad
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Ali and Larry Holmes doesn't get his due, and Lennox
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Lewis was a fucking beast, so maybe you know, who
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: knows who would have fought. But that guy stylistically is
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: like the greatest heavyweight ever. Like watching him move the
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: way skill for skill when you're watching an artist. Yeah,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: it's like the way the way he put.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It on block.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, he's incredble. But he's still really
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: a two hundred and twenty pound guy. Yeah, you know,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: like he puts on some extra weight, he gets a little.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: He was a little thicker for that fight. But you know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Ricos huge, Ricos giants, He's a giant guy from the Netherlands, right,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that's is that where he's just a real Dutch. Another
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Dutch Kickbox. They're all giants.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: They're all six six five, seven's huge, sixty.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: He's got crazy cardio two for a big.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Giant bouncing I mean he he was for ten rounds.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: He kept that pace as a heavyweight, keeping that pace,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and then once he slowed, you know, that's when Whusick
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: was able to find him.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Did you watch him, mat, I can't watch. I have
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a hard time watching anything but fucking mixed martial arts. Yeah.
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: Well, you know Star Wars. I saw a new he
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: Man movie, by the way. Was it was fucking good. Really,
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: The Masters of the Universe was good. I was worried
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: because I'm thinking Elder new reboots and this and that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: I go, is it gonna be too woke? Is it
• 43:34
  Speaker 10: gonna be this?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: It was fucking fun.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: It had a thor Ragnanok type feel where it's just
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: kind of fun and a little goofy, but not to
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: the point where it's just takes you out of it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I know what it is. I grew up with that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: he Man. Yeah, that was my that was my gun
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: as a.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Kid around our age, right right. So it did justice
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: to that, like you know, it made it fun.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: It was awesome. Yeah, Jared yeah. I heard there was
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: like some sort of crazy like he wasn't allowed to
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: do interviews, was allowed to talk to the rest of
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: her cast. Why because they're worried he's gonna do nutty
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: ship like he went in The Joker. He was like
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: sending people dead rats in the mail and oh really yeah,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: d like because he was he was in character, you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: so they're like, yeah, you're gonna be an evil, fucking
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: skeletor guy. No, we can't let you be in character.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I can't contact the rest of the crew. I don't
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: know if that's true. That's what I heard, but it
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: was fun.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: See if that's true. Now I heard that too. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: heard Will Smith said something about that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I thought somebody said that. I know somebody say, you know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: he definitely did with a Joker rat or something. He
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: was the Joker. Yeah, yeah, said I know, you're playing
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: the Joker, but come on with the rest.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you would chill out.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: But there's some dudes that played the Joker and you're like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: all right, it's over.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I heard when he led your played the Joker, like
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: everybody stopped.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah Joker, Yeah he can come back after that until
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Joaquin Joaquin Phoenix.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they came out out.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, now that's the Joker.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And then then you show a sequel and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you said, fuck that, bring back.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't see the sequel. Tim Dillan told me it
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: is the worst movie that's ever been.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Everybody said that. I didn't see it neither. I didn't
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: make it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. If I was guessing he probably
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: didn't want to do it, I don't know what they
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: were thinking that. I bet it was like a dispute
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: between like the movie company and the dude directed.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Why would you do that unless you're trying to.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Mock it or you're trying to diffuse it. Maybe the
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: government was like, hey, after you released that movie, we
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: had the BLM riots and everybody's lighting la on fire. Hey,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: maybe don't have a movie where you're encouraging people to
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: like light cities on fire. Maybe make it a musical
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: to diffuse the Joker movement with a musical.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: It's funny, how the first if I never seen a
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, sequels aren't normally as good as the original,
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: but holy f I've never seen something so bad.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't make it through it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: I saw something man then I'm like, once I started singing,
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: I'm out at this moment.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: It's very rare.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Where a sequel, You're like, damn, that's just as good.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Well terminated to Empire strikes back. Those are a couple.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Those are a couple of Rocky Too. You didn't like
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Rocky Too obviously?
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: Why do you take it to the zoo in the beginning?
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Why I never get over that zoo?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: The drift, the whole.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: The whole joke was that beat, that mean bodyguard saying
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: take it to the zoo. The retards like this, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: then he takes to the fucking zoo to propose the one.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Is that not crazy? But that's how people were in
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the seventies there were animals. But he's basically before the internet.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Movie reviews on your general trying to plug my chan
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: talk about that. You know what I'm watching on there?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: I do series reactions or movies reactions?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Are you watching the New House of Dragon? No, there's
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: too many things to watch. Let me tell you something
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of from That's all I.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Want to talk to you about that too.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: My wife. My wife's made it from you know, don't
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: tell me why. Season four episode five.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, sah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: There's only four four and then the fifth one is
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: the final season. It doesn't come out until twenty twenty seven,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: so we'll tell me.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Shit, Hey, how to Dragon? Now?
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: Look, I love Game of Thrones. The Night of the
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Seven Kingdoms was phenomenal, and How's the Dragon? Out of
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: all them, is the one I like the.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Least because it's a lot of just gloom and doom.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It's all the characters are pricks. They're all a bunch
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of fucking wacky talking.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no one like exactly, No one's noble, but
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: this one, the third season is fucking I watch it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do the reactions on my channel. Thanks. What
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: is the channel? The maat Sarah channel.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: On YouTube's contemplated. It's he's contemplating the trackets what this is?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Do you see mystery science? That was mystery idea.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: They showed the back of their head.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: You're the former UFC Welterweight Champion of the world and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you're sitting there with the headphones on. That great, This
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: is what I think about House of Track. Yeah, you
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: didn't have to do it.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: That's two hundred milligrams of edibles right there. Fifty you
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: know what, you know what see, I really love when
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: they were trying to find Targarians because the Targantans also
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: a children trying to see who's the Targartan, so they
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: put people out with the dragons that was burning motor.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: The prious seasons had some good scenes like that, But
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: this season I just watched three of them so far.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: I'll get in each one of them is it's all
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: it's nothing but fighting. Now, it's nothing about but going
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: at it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go, and it's fucking good. Yeah, good, I'm in.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I watched I watched the whole season of the whole
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: all the episodes of Game of Thrones.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Recently you went back and started back.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we watched it for like four or five months,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: watched every one of them. Well, you watch it like
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: every couple of nights a week, like two three nights
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: a week. When you're watching it, it's like you just
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: like you follow You don't have to wait like years
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: in between seasons. It's the greatest epic adventure show in
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: the history of the world. Time.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta watch it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, sure, I forgot how good it was. And
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: even though it's ten years old. Special effects are perfect.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I'm going to say something I never
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: said in my life. There's a new book I'm reading,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: what the audible a graphic novel? A bitch, No, it's not,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: it is, and I gotta be honest. I'm listening to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the audio. Okay. People say they're reading a book when
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: they really listen to the audio.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Donald Rollins gave me so much shit about that because
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: he's like, how you reading when you just listened. I'm
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: just trying to abbreviate it. Yes, I listened to an audiobook. Sorry, Red,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: and sit down and read it?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Rising? Red Rising? Have you ever heard of this?
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: No?
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: Well, you're gonna document this episode because sooner or later
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: someone's gonna pick it up and it's gonna become either
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: an Amazon series or a movie. My one of my
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: black belts, Jedi Joey Beans, told me about this agent.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: What a great name, Joey Beans Savage Jedi Jedi Jos
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: is a fucking great name.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: He's great, but uh, he likes all the ship I'm into.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: So he told me about this.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna write it down. What is it?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Red Rising? That's it?
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you I don't know how many books
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: they are, but I'm listening to the first one and
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: I'm like more than halfway through, and it's what's it about?
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Set in future on Mars listen?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Whoa Red Rising is a twenty fourteen? This? This? Are
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: you not still topion science? You guys are a bunch
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: of fucking why.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Telling us he's reading my short friends, telling us he's
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: reading and dystopian comes out?
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Somebody else read it? A bunch of pricks. This is
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a great book. It's a book I like getting into
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: something new. Well, how long is that's regular coffee? There's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: a cop if you want coffee cos you know, what
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: would you want? A little baby?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what you're gonna do with that.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. I'm down for that.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I'm down for that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the Red Rising Man, that was really good coffee.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: It's like a Game of Thrones in space.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm nice.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I'm in Oh.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: You know when I started watching because of you guys,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: that battle start glastic great.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm I'm on the first season. There's like
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: twenty episode season. I'm like, I'm like ten in right now.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a sci fi channel. Bro, that show
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: was so underrated, so underrated, like to this day. If
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: you go back and watch Battlestar Galacicle, the entire series,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: it's fucking incredible, very good, the new one, not the
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: old one.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: Original or Man, here's what I'm gonna recommend. You can
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: watch it with your wife, well by yourself, whatever you
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: want to do.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Widows Bay.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: Apple TV comes out with some fucking bangers Bangers Silos,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: another great one, but uh, Widows Bay, it's it's very rare.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: It's about an island that's kind of cursed and May
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: is trying.
• 52:46
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• 52:48
  Speaker 6: month is Vineyard whatever that is, and he and you
• 52:50
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• 52:51
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• 52:54
  Speaker 3: This is great. Bro. That guy's in another great fucking
• 52:58
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• 53:00
  Speaker 1: It might be. It's very rare.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: That something I don't like, Like, my family's a bunch
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: of ghouls except for my oldest, but they like all
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: the horror shit. I'm not into it, but it's very rare.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: I like spooky shit, so it's like spooky, but it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: fucking funny. It's got like a quirky type humor to it,
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: and I was fucking dying.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I was the beast in me.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Is another one.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: It was, uh what was it on Netflix? It's on Netflix.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: It's still on Netflix. It's a series and it's about
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: an author and this fucking psychotic guy that is a
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: rich guy who lives in her neighborhood. I don't want
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to tell you any more than that movie. Cli.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Claire Danes and that guy Matthew. You watch that show.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I didn't watch It is a.
• 53:43
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• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Well, she could lie her ass off.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: She's she's fantastic on that. I got ninety eight percent
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: on Rotten Tomatoes. That's how good it is. It's a
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: great show.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: The beast me.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's too much shit to watch so much.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I just started the pit so I'm like, and I'm
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm late on that. So what's the pit about?
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: The the er room in Pittsburgh.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: He plays a doctor in the r room. It's really
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: good though, Okay, they saw them into for a while.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Then I just fucking fall. I never heard of it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Just too many shows. Yeah, I did that with land Man.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: After a while, I'm just like, new season is good.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I don't give a ship about the slutty wife and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the daughters annoying.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: The stripper wife. Well, after a.
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: While it's just like, all right, I go they get
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: to some interesting ship with like the cartels after them,
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: and then they're oh, let's take the all the scene
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: out to the strip joint.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, the wife's being outrageous.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, I don't die by a d D.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: I can't take it now. That was my problem with
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: it too. I thought that the women were like caricatures
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: of women.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Come on, man, who's who's cheering their daughter on?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of too much. I have a
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: question though, if you guys all seen.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: It, why does the why do they live together like
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: the other lawyer, and why do they all live with
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: Billy Bob Thornton.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And that's a plot point.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's no other reason why because there's only
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: one house on the ranch or something thing.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because I'm just.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Like, they all have to live in the one house,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: his home.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It makes it fun. But isn't he making a lot
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: of money? We shouldn't all of them be making a
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: lot of money?
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Would think his lawyer will be making big bank you know. Well,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: now he's got to be making money because he's running
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: the company spoiler, So he's making more money.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: She's making sure they're eating their Vegetables's.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Mad about it? Any anything? Just love Billy Bob and
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: that show is so good.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: He makes the show makes.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Is Taylor said that he wouldn't even made the show
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't for Billy. He went to Billy with
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: the ideas I'm not gonna make this if you're not
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: gonna be.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: He made the show, was good in it too. He's great,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: He's great and everything.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: You ever see Things to Do in Denver when You're dead?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Longo loves that movie.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I don't lovemon Mile loves it in all. Honestly, I
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: haven't seen it in decades, but when I saw it,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I loved it. But the problem is, sometimes you go
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: back and you try to watch on the movies and
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: sucks a fat one. There's a bunch of movies like that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: You try to watch them, they're terrible.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's just better better off remembering how good
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: they used to be.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well the impact you were just a more
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: naive person for the internet.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: I watched one of the worst movies that was so
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: fucking good that it was bad. It was rowdy right, rowdy,
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: rowdy right, rowdy, roddy roddy Piper, rowdy roight.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Rowdy roddy Piper.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: Yes, we saw him last night to Joey Hell comes
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: the Frogs Down. Now, it's a it's a it's a
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: combination of say, like Mad Max, like a post apocalyptic
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: thing and Escape from New York where in the future Rowdy.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Roddy is the only guy who's not fucking sterile. Everybody
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: else is sterile, so chasing him for it so.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: They have to like it starts off when he's in
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: like a fucking generals. He's in like a room because
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: he got caught with the general's daughter and fucking they
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: put They put a a jockstrap on him with explosives
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: and he a frog.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: So his mission is to go to his frogs town
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: and there's a herem there and he's got to impregnate
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: everybody or else they're gonna fucking blow him up.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a horrible job.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Is crazy this movie, Oh my god, you can't cut
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: out frog Town. This is amazing.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Cut out halfway through things that do in Denver when
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: you're dead. He's in for frog Yeah, but you know
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: what you're getting into. It's not a bunch of people
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: pretending to be cool. You know, it's like, this is
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: just silly.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: How did you even find this and then sit down
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and watch the whole thing? This is the thing, you know.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: It's well documented about my ass problems.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: So sometimes I spend a lot of time on the throne,
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: and I got my iPad. So I go to Prime
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: Video and it's almost like when I was little, Like
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: I used to go through the channels and I'm like
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: up all night. I'd find something wacky. So I look
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: for weird or different movies, and that's one of them,
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: and I just it just brought me right in. I
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: watched that whole and two ships. I watched that whole movie.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Crazy amount.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: On time.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: It's crazy to ship for two hours? You saying a little, well,
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: not for two hours.
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: The budget for this movie was double what that movie
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: Obsession was that just came out.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: That's me said that movie was great. So the budget
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: was one point five million back then.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: In nineteen eight. Wow, so was this a small release?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Who made this movie?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: What was the company that made New World Picker. That's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: a big company. Maybe they sold it to New World.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that ship was just before after
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: They Live, Well, They Live was good, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe They's good rolled it. But I bet if you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: tried to watch Return to frog Town was released on
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: ninety three, he was phs before even DVD, like, no,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: fuck this.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Put it on.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: Now, listen, everybody don't watching this and cursing me. I mean,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: you gotta know what you're getting into, exactly what it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: looks like.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: The TV guy only gave it two out of five stars.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: How dare they?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: DVD Talk said three.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you he's he's he's hysterical in it's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: for some reason.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: I bet if we watched they live right now, we
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: wouldn't like it. I bet we'd be like, oh, pretty funny?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Is it good? It was the last time you saw it.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of the movies when you're flipping
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: around if it's on because him and the who's the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: what's the this guy's name? Remember they had basically a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: wrestling match in the fucking alley they were.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: At work.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: This movies from like the eighties the nineties, the movies
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: from the eighties and the nineties that become comedies like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: it used to be. This is kind of a comedy.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: This is like a little tongue in cheek. But then
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: this stuff like Roadhouse right, Roadhouse comedy right for sure.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Roadhouse is such a bad movie. Yeah yeah, it's so bad.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: It's so insanely the bad guys bad. Everything is bad.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Everything's bad, except for Patrick Swayzey's hair.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: It was appropriate at the time. That's eighties everything we were.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: We were people were dumb back then, you know, that's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: what I think. I think we were dom we you know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: no Internet people were stupid.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: It's true. We were only we were only exposed to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: what we were exposed to in your area.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we thought that's solid.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Use I'll tell you what. That's good guy. You're gonna
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: root for him. Yeah, he's complicated, but he's tough. He's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: quiet like poetry people up and he says, pain, don't hurt.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: Hey.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I say that.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: The karate scenes are so bad, Like everything is so bad,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: it's so fake, it's so dumb looking.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: But it's still awesome.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Sam Elliott in his back up. I had an eighty
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: year old back up, but dude clearly could barely walk
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Ko and guys left and right.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Crack.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: That's me who He's awesome and everything. Sam Elliott's everything.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Every time you see Sam Elliott in the movie, like, yes,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: The bad guys then he's tell uh Patrick what's his name?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: That he was gonna funk that he used to fun
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: guys like him in prison.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, sam Elie, that's one who played land Man's father, right, Yes, yeah, Yes,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: he's awesome.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: He's always good, he's always in everything.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: He's real life Marlboro Man exactly.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right and everything. Yeah, that movie was so bad.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, back then it wasn't. Ye. Everything
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in the eighties was bad.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: TV shows were insane. You watch me, like, what were
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: they doing? Yeah, trying to brainwash America.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: Roger Daberts's review is that this is right on the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: edge of a good bad movie and merely the bad.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: It's not a good movie. Well, he's right, it's not
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: a good movie, but viewed in the right frame of mind,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: it's not a boring one either, That's the thing. Gene
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Siskel was less complimentary, calling it outrageous in terms of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: its cartoon like plotting and dialogue, and lamenting Swayze's mindless posturing.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: A young star has sold himself to become a pin
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: up boy. Someone sounds a little jelly. Someone sounds a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: little jelly. That sounds a little jelly.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Act. It's called the.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I made a movie and thought it was gonna
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: be better than it was.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, let's move on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: The day people are still talking about it. Bro but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: basically every actor that's ever lived has been in a.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Couple of lemons. Of course, that's part of the process.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe Daniel de Lewis, he's probably a little bit more.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe that a lot of people didn't watch that Lincoln one.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: That might be the only one I didn't like. I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: don't know anybody who was like Raves about the Lincoln movie.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: What about the Vampire Hunt, the Abraham Lincoln that was crazy?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Never saw that that was Daniel Abraham Lincoln, Vampire cy.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: That should have made in the eighties. They should have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: been It should have been made.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: In the eighties. Yeah, it's like a comic book. Anything
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: sounds like a Marvel comedy. Yeah, I didn't.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't see something I would watch. It was pretty,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: it's was it good? It was zampire it was to me,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: it was like a comedy thing. I might have seen
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: it and forgotten about it. I don't even remember if.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: I I mean, you get high enough when you watch
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: the movies. They're cool, but you don't really remember details
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know what, I'm looking forward to that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: new werewolf Movieggars guy, the same guy that did in
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: nos Ferado.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: He's doing a where they just released a trailer, did they.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: What's it called? Werewolf? We're yeah, werewolf. I saw its
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: spelled weird, but it's basically a werewolf ship. Where does
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: it take place?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know, some foreign country. You can hear them
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: speaking some strange language.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like, give me some vi man, I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: want to see.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: That looks pretty wild.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Robert Eggers ship Christmas? How was the Christmas? How was
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: the Vampire one?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: It was awesome? You think I like it? Yeah, it's
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. It's good, dude, it is.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's the best vampire movie of all time.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: That The Interview with a Vampire.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think is the best vampire movie of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: all time. That's my opinion. I think it's the best.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, I've seen a bunch of them. Gary Oldman
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: one was amazing. That was a great That draft that's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: still great. But man, there's something about Egger's Nosferado. It's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: like it's more terrifying than all of them. Like it's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: just something. It's more hypnotic, Like he's got powers over people.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Like it's weird, the way he influences people. It's like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: it's creepy.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the way that looks shot, Like I can
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: see what you're saying.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Like, show me a scene where there when he's making
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: him sign the contract. There's a scene where the dude
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: has to go to his house and he doesn't know
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: spoiler alert, like what contract he's signing because he's signing
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: it in the language that he has now to sell
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: a house to this prince that lives in Romania, and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: he goes to business guy. It's the creepiest fucking scene ever.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: And this is the first scene where you like see
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: him and you slowly gets revealed like what he is?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: The best vampire movie of all time? Is the best?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You'll love it.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going to so well done.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: So lazy thought. Okay, this is language. Is your fire
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: for or father? Mm hmmm of course, Oh.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 11: You're a bride, so h yes, he wants to look
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 11: at the bride.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Well, he wants this guy's wife. This is this whole contract.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: This is what this whole thing is about him going
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: to this guy's town and buying a house there from him.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Like this really just wants this guy's wife. He's like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: eternally connected to her. Oh it's creepy as fuck, dude.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, shot to watch this. Yeah, it's good. I gotta
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: watch this. Watch this. Ever, some people disagree, and that's
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: fine my opinion. You ever see Lost Boys? That was good,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that was fun. I bet if you watched it today,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, what, Yeah, you's this is John Rawler
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: with long hair? You believe.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: Way Broadway show for it?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Now Lost Boys the Broadway.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Show, dude. First of all, boo Broadway. I saw a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: spider Man. I saw a spider Man. I saw a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Rocky two things I love. It's like going to see
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: a spider Man movie with the worst special effects ever.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's a guy swinging and everybody's like, oh,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I go, dude, really show me the one with Macy
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Barber in it, not Mac.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Fighters, the girl that.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Used to see Macy Gray. Macy Gray. Yes, there's a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Rocky play. It was fucking horrendous. Do they box?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: They pull a ring out and yeah.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: It's fucking awful. It's like, but just what you're picturing
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: the doorway. I've never seen anything I liked on that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: This is it.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Oh theater people, You're so silly, dude.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I can't stand the guy sucks. He can't box. The
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: beloved Oscar winning story.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I just as did this.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean own it.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: It's like it's a cover story.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not in the place. I saw Dog Day Afternoon
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: with John Berthough on Broadway. Oh really, how was that?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't bad?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Like he he was? He was really good in it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: He's really he's really good. You really liked that ship?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Did you ever get into The Punisher?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Did you see the uh yeah, One Last Kill?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I watched. That was good. It's a one off.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an hour long. People think it's a movie.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: It's not a it's not.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: It's a cool movie. It's like that was good. Yeah,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I liked it.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: That was really good. He isn't him and the Dad
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Devil was good. Yeah, he was good.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: He was season was okay, second season wasn't good, but
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: that special was good.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: If you have to watch one thing, it's like forty
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: five minutes doing an hour. I did a watch along
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: on the Matt Sarah channel.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: I did. But that's a good everything John Berthow. Yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Walking Dead he was amazing. Yeah, it was played such
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: a good creepy friend.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, liked it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Get Back to Life, Yeah, Yeah, good, that was crazy.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I met him a few times in real life. He's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you know, he can scrap a little bit.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very nice guy. Yeah, he was on
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: the podcast. Enjoy talking to him first. Smart interesting dude
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: went to school in Russia.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's a weird place
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: to I know, I learned acting. Yeah, and just so
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: you know, on the ball, we're on the topic. The
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: punish is gonna be in spider Man Brand New Day
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: that's coming out. Is that movie?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the New Spider Man movie. Those they just keep
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: swapping out Spider Man's Yeah, but this this.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Holland Spider Man. He's yet to do a bad
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Spider Man thing.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: He's good.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: There's no job security in being Spider Man. No wings
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: or there is job security. They just were Tobey Maguire
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: back after twenty years. Yeah, it's not a bad gig.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: The multiverse thing. But the thing is about Spider Man
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be like a college kid. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Fortunately this guy looks like a little kid.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Tom Holland, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: It's the origin story. As he starts out as a coach,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: he's yeah yeah, and then his uncle Ben gets killed
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't say yeah, he doesn't stop the guy.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: You know what else was fun was The Spider Man
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: in the Wall. Oh yeah, yeah, watch that too.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: That's dope. I thought it was good.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: And you can watch it in color or black and white.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: They give you the option.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicholas Cage is a fascinating dude.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: But but he guys been around forever.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: He's the good Nicholas Cage in.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: This Yeah, some stuff you watch, you're like, well, I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: think after after that uh Pascal movie he did what's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: his name was in the title, It's like, I don't know,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: being Nicholas Cage. That movie brought him back. It was
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: like fiction for Travolta, like kicked him back off again.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: What is that movie?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: It was great where the pat pedro Pascal is like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: a drug tailer guy who's a big fan of Nicholas
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: Cage and he winds up like hiring him to come
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: to his house to do something and then he gets
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Cage is hemmed up in the cartel business.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Unbearable weight of massive talent. That's what it's called. Is
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: that it is that the name of Yeah there it
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: is see being Nick fucking cage.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: So that's a great B plus.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: That's it was pretty good. It was good.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Check that out. I watched part of it. I never
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: got through the whole thing. That's just busy, but it
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: looks hilarious.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: It's premise ist hilarious. You know, you're like an actor
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: and you get these gigs like because people do things
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: like that. They'll like show up at people's houses and parties,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: Like someone wants to pay you a million dollars to
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: go to Dubai and you're like, okay.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: So when they fly to Dubai.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: And they have dinner with people, to hang out with
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: them and meet them, and people just cut them a check.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, where can I get that? I know it's weird.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: It's uh, there's there's you know, so like Nicholas Cage
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: like that probably would happen where the cartel guy was.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Like that guy, he's my favorite.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I remember when Sean Penn met El Choppo hang hanging
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: with Al Choppo and did an article for Rolling Stone
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: magazine where he talked about meeting l Choppo in Mexico.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: No ship.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Ye yeah, you don't remember. Do you remember when Connor
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: was wearing the El Choppo shirt. Try to pictures just
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: like Chopo. Those were the pictures that he did with
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Sean penn Oh ship, Yes, that's the shirt. That's what Connor.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: What Connor is doing that he's mocking. Speaking of Connor,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: how well does he do next week?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: What we're going to find out. We're really going to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: find out what's going on. If it gets into the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: second and third rounds, that's what we're really going to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: find we'll know immediate at that point. But I mean
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: whether or not he can really fight for five rounds,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: like against it with a great gas tanks after five
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: years of tearing your body up. You don't know, right
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: because it's all in a vacuum. Like there's some training
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: footage of him beating guys up that you've seen, but
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: who knows what he actually has been doing. We know
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: he's been partying, but has he also been like really training,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: because if he's been really training and he shocks everybody
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: because he's still got his skills. Yeah, I mean, my god,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: if he if he somehow or another sparks out Max
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: in like the first round, do you do you know
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: how big he he's right back, right, right, right back.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: I mean he's right back. He and Justin Gatchee the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: biggest history universe. Yeah, they go for the BMF title
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: at once. Ever, cars like I don't want to cut
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: any weight.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I would be crazy.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: My only concern is his size. Like Max struggled with
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: bigger dudes like dust In the first time. Then Max
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: came back bigger, which we know because when he went
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: back down he struggled, you know with their Lawski you know,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: I mean he went five rounds with Justin. So like,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: I'm just waiting to see does is Connor able to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: put that fucking weight on him and have a problem?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Is he a bigger dude? Though they both thought it
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the same weight.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Class and it did start at forty five?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, point when Max was fighting at one, when he
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: was a champion, he was walking around like one seventy six.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: He's a big He's a bigger guy, good big. I mean,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I love Max, so like it's follow I follow Max
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: on YouTube.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: He's got a great channel, so recording all of his
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: training and also you're doing and you know you see him.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: He looks good, dude, he looks big. Dustin Porrier thinks
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Max might be bigger.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Really Yeah, I mean what he says.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: He says he's kind of thin, but he's got a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: bigger frame. He thinks he's gonna be like I.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: Mean, he came to my gym a couple of times
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: and he's like my height. I think he made a
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: big mistake going back to forty five after he did. Yeah,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think it's too hard. I think I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: think it's just too hard on the body. And especially
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: when he got who's a thick fifty five? When he
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: thought Justin he looked good. Yeah, he looks solid at
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: that weight. I think him fighting at that weight, he
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: could actually fight. I think going down to forty five,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I think he's I think he was fighting. It looked
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: to me like he was in, like he was compromised.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Like I think the weight cut was just it was
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: just so much.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Do you think that Justin fight and Max is different
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: if he doesn't get caught with that kick early in
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: the face one, you know, like I would like to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: see that fight without Justin's compromise.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Right, But I mean that's what the about like that game,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: that that was the intention, right, it could have been
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: a k right. He shattered the bones of his nose. Yeah,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: so that for sure, I mean, but then you know,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: you think you see the way Max looked at one
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: forty five when he fought Ilia, But then you got
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: also factor and also he's fighting Ilia, and Ilia is
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: so fucking good, like you look bad, Like there's a
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: lot of guys who don't look He's combinations on people,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: and a lot of guys look bad, doesn't mean they're bad.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see Max and Justin again if Max
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: pulls it off. But then again, like, what are you
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: gonna do for Ilia? Like if Ilia wants a rematch,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: like justify that, I don't believe.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: So I think you give him Patty. If Patty wins, that's.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: What I think, that's what his next fight should be.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: I think I think Patty wins. Do you think you
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: think Patty beats Ilia.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: No, I think he.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Beats Saint Denis to get to Ilia. I think he
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: gets hit way too much to beat Ilia.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Ilias sharp, he's so sharp with st I rewatched that fight.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Patty in this one.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Saint denis not an easy I don't think he is
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a beast.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: I just think his Patty strikings a little better and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: his jiu jitsu is better. I think the only place
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: Saint than he has the advantages into the wrestling.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: Just my opinion. I don't know, man Sundayny switched camps
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: and then made that big adjustment after he lost to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: who lost, looked he puts.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: Him on his back at all, Like I don't does
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: satany train off his back because it didn't.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Look like it in that Moicano match.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Patty and Illiot would be huge. They have his that's right,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: they got yeah, do that ship in London.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's the right comeback fight.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: And like I'm going, I don't want to get caught
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: in a riot, not for anything.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Lock you up for your social media when you get
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: They would They were shipping on Patty when he lost
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: to Justin and uh, you know he got compromise also
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: that first round.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I believe he got poked in.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Whatever case. He went five with him with him and
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: you know, and got battered and stood up to great shots.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: And he's gonna come out of that fight better. He'll know, Okay,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: there's more work to be done. There's holes. I have
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: my game, there's places where I got caught.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: And he has improved over his like when he first
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: got there. I didn't really think much of him, but
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: each time out he I think he gets a little better.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, dude, for sure, it's just Justin's and yeah
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: he's my favorite fightert you know, been for a minute.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt because he's just always in a.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: And especially after you see that second round when I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: rewatched it again when Eliot was putting on him in
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: that second round, like col those liver parts, How does
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: he come back from this if he more than one?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Too?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: So beautiful though too, Like the way he delivers those
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: shots just clean. You know what else does it?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: Like that?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Aaron Pico.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: He's got this shoot? Yeah, Pico is because that was
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: one of those guys I was fighting pit Bull. It
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, a real legend. But he the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: way he mixed it together, the striking and the and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: the and the wrestling was really good.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: He just got crazy in his debut and he just
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: got a little just too hyped up, a little too
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: aggressive against a guy who's way too skilled.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know he's a hunter. Yeah, you know, he's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: a guy.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: I love that he's so aggressive. But uh, that was
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: a great comeback fight. You know it was because it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: shows that that he's still in there. You know, you
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: get worried when they when you see people get the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: lights put out like that, You like they can ever
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: be the same. And then when you see him come
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: back into a fight like that, being so intelligent, Yeah,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: that's a good sign.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: But he has to make sure his defense is always
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: good because his chin.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: Is still suspect. Regardless of how good his skill is,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: he's still going at a chin.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Well, he's been knocked down a bunch of times, you know.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: I mean after a certain amount of times, it's easier
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: to get knocked out, and you've got to know he's
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: been knocked out in training. I always believe part of
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: your chin is believing you can't be knocked out.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: And then when it happens to you that first time,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: instead of when you get your bell rung, you bite
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: out on your mouthpiece. Now you're like, oh, ship, not again.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: Like I think mentally it's a it's different.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: There's something to that probably, but then there's also like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: a if you get hit and get hit on the yah,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: it's like certain ship that violates believe nobody wheelkicks. I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: remember that one, and that was in Brazil and Terry Adam, Yeah,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: he had a good one too. That's one of those
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: where you go, I don't think that guy's ever going
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: to be the same.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was the same after that. I
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: thought it right then and there, I was like, I
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: think that was too hard. Yeah, that was too hard.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: That's a different shot.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: And you've seen it where guys they get one and
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: then they're still in there, and then you see them
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: get a couple and then next thing you know, that
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: chin is gone.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: It's just it's not listen, chuckle Withell is mentally strong,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: I don't think she's like, I wonder if this is
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: gonna you know, that's just his body saying his body's
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: trying to protect him.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his body saying enough of this. And it's also
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: the apparently it's the lining inside your brain, all that
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: fascia tears over time and repeated head traumas and just
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of swashing around. So when you get dinged,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: your your brain is literally going without shock absorbers, bouncing
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: off the inside of your skull. That might not be
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: the technical way.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, all those hight jokes. I was like
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: a little armadillo.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: I was covering that little motherfucker unless I'm running into
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: a backfist.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: That was okay, but it's so funny how everything just evolves.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: When I got stopped with the first I was the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: first guy ever to get stopped with a backfist, and
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: when I did, the people were like, Yo, this guy
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: must suck.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Nobody gets stopped with that ship Now you see it
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: on every car. People getting stoped with backfist.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Have these conversations like Eddie Bravo and I at the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: beginning of the UFC about stuff that works that's not
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: in there yet, Like what about this? What about that?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: You know, the big one that I missed on front
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: kick to the face before Anderson Silva front kick v
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Tour the face.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't work. Nobody does.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: Nobody does that.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too hard to land. Yeah, I don't know
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: why I thought that. He really thought that for a
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: little bit because I was like.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: It's not worth it. I was like, that move is
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: so powerful to the body. I was like, that's really
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: where you should use it because you could land.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: It's a big.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Target and you can really fuck a guy up. You
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: get your most power with the front kick going straight.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: And I was like, to the face, it's like too
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: hard to hit. I thought that was.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Macheta and Randy. I think it was like
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: v tour first or Anderson vtour first. I think that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: was the first one when we saw a real spectacular
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: front kick knock out.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: To the face.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: But then it was Macheetah and Randy and then a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: bunch of people start doing it, and then front kicks
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: to the face became frank for that.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: How about Michael Chandler, Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or Cheeto Rivera, Frankie Edgar, Oh, frank fun kicks
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: to the face or brutal. I didn't see that coming,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: I really, because in martial arts tournaments most of people
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: were throwing him to the body and not throwing them
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: to the face.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Even in kickboxing, not a whole lot of guys were
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: throwing him to the face. You know.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: With Michael Chandler, I remember talking to him. He said
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: he didn't even practice that. That's he just says, he
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: just saw the opening and just threw the kick.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so crazy.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: And I think too, Once a a successful technique gets
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: out there and people see it, honey, and then all
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, hey, I can do that.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a rough outing the last one.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: Mike. Yeah, that's the time, man, that was a bad matchup.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: That's like that staying, say, Mike, it's time for you
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: to retire. Mike is forty, Hoofy is in his prime
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: and he might be the scariest striker at And by
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: the way, giant for fifty dog like Rangy good movement,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: he's fucking good. Bro.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: He hit him with like three wheel kicks.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was just it was target practice.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how good he is.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: And you talk about that taekwondo movement, he has that
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: exactly but with boxing hands, so it's crazy.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean got to tighten up the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: wrestling in the jiu jitsu and that's why he lost
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: to Ben wats Antony. But that was a good learning
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: experience when you see a guy who's that good, fucking
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: everybody up.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: The way he put out king that was real bad.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: He does it like a video game and and.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I thought that was And by the way, the physique.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Knockout apparently he was like sick as a dog before
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: the fight was they were talking about pulling out of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: the fight and he just took the fight anyway and
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: had one of the best performances of his career. But
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: that guy's he's elite and training with Volkanovsky, I know,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: only going to make him better. What better guy like wrestling, strong,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: like animal featherweight that was like the king for so
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: many years, won the crown again.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stick around with that guy.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: He'll show you how to get up, He'll show you
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: how to not get taken down.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: And you know he don't have much left in him, right.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: He want to coach, don't want to like pass it on,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: and you got the perfect guy to pass.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: He's got a great fight I q very well rounded.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, I think he's one of my favorite.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: He's really grew on me. I didn't like him because
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: of Max. You know, I was always rooting for Max,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: but uh, you know, he's earned my respect. That guy
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: is just he's he's good. He's good everywhere too.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: He really is the dude I got my eyes on
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: the most is Carlos Protest. I got my eyes.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: That Jack de la Model and Ko was crazy Jack.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Jack is so fucking good and he's so tough. He's
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: so tough, and you watch Carlos just him.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Apart like target practice fround him against such a high
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: level he's having fun.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I know that's that's the worst part.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Morales is a savage too.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Still no, but that fight.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: But will save that fight Morales versus Protest?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Save that? Ye wait till it's ready.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: Not yet.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: It's like, don't pull the brisket out of the smoker
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: just yet.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: I was telling mad I saw some grappling uh like
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: footage of Morales, and I mean he looked pretty.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: He has a wrestling background, and if there's a way
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get protests, it's going to probably be a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: combination of those things because Protest just wants to stand yeah,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: of course. And he's he's built like like if you
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: had an engineer, like a long legs and arms.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, and he's so accurate.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: He had his best round the fifth round versus Ian
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Machado Gary. Yeah, he came back like a bat out
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: of hell.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: And really had him hurt bad.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: He might get outpointed, but he's he's calm in bad
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: positions and he's always fucking dangerous. That was the last
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: You're thinking, maybe he's a chain smoke or something that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: he's or he smokes.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fifth round man he had. He had Ian
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: in trouble.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: He's good dude, and he's really hit so fucking hard.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: When he killed Leon, I was like, Leon's good, He's
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: a good striker to Ko Leon like that clean.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: They got a crazy room. Was the fight nerds they
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: called them, and Houst he was there. Yeah, he trains
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: with them, and he trains with other people as well,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: like protest moves around, but he you know, he had
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: a giant and muay Thai record rather Yeah, like how
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: many muay Thai fights that Carl's protests have like world class?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: Like I've watched a bunch of his just pure Multai fights,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: and the comfort level that he has in there exchanging
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: and moving and knowing where he's supposed to be not
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: to be that like sensitivity that he has to like
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: striking exchanges because world class muay Thai is.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Such an advantage.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would favor him if he fought Ian Gary again,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: because he knows he has.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: To try to get it on him. Yeah, can't point
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: fight him.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: Do you think that Islam's going to just have his
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: way or do you think Ian Gary has a shot there?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: He definitely has a shot.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I mean and so he had twenty nine Muytai wins,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: five losses, so thirty four Muatai fights and like high level.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: You watch him fight and you're like, Okay, this guy
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: he can fucking he knows where to be, where not
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: to be, and he knows how to like piece people up.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: It's like when you have that high level.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: We've seen it so many times with these guys like
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: world chance like Alex see these world champion kickboxers they entered.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Into mm A like nobody has a chance standing with them.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: It's like it's too scary. Yeah, and that's what you're
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: seeing with Carlos, It's like, fuck man. Like what he
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: did to j DM, I was like, holy shit. I
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: mean he was having fun. He was just playing a
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: good time. I was like, what beating the ship out
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: of the former world champion having a good time, just
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: smashing them had him screaming from calf kicks yeah yeah,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Whereas he went to his corner and they're like.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: No ah, yeah, fucking scream. They're telling screen, yeah, you
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: didn't just get kicked.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: You. You know what is his nose is on the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: left side of his face, and you're saying that guy
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: tough enough. That's a fact.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: That was one of those I was had him when
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: he was getting up against the cage. I was fucking flinching.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hear it, it's coming, because you just you
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: know it's coming, but you just don't know where it's
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: coming from.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: And those knees the body are so nasty. Protest is
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: so nasty. He's so good man, and he's getting better too,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: and and now he's starting to do this ship. Yeah,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: it's like he's feeling it. He feels like he's the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: best guy.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he's the scariest guy in that division.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: I think so, he's the scariest, but it doesn't mean
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: he's going to be the best, right. The bottom line
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: about Islam is no one's able to get away from him.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: He gets ahold of you.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: He's very good standing up now, and he gets a
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: hold of you. You're at Foxville. He has a different
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: kind of wrestling, different kind of grappling. Well, if I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: can't keep him off him, I don't see how he
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: beats him on the ground. His submissions are fucking insane too.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: He's just got a fice grip. Man. I know everybody
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: that he rolls with or everybody that he fights. Rather
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: they all say I'm never in grab like that, never
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: been never felt anybody that strong Islam. Yeah, I don't
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: know if it's the same at seventy. But he's so big,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine. It's not it's not like he's a
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: little seventy.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like because he's talking. Yeah, he's got a
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: good frame on him.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be better at seventy because
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: he's not going to be depleted. Because when I would
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: stand next to him in the octagon when he was
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: the fifty five pounds champion, I'd be like, how, yeah,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: how do you weigh fifty five? It doesn't even make
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: any sense. You're one hundred and ninety pounds right now.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Guaranteed if I put you on a scale, you weigh
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: one ninety.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's so big.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: I think Ian's gonna make it come competitive early, you know,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: because he's got good footwork.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: He moves side to side really good. He's long.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: But if he gets taken down ice and then it
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: becomes a habit of him getting taken down, he won't
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: get back up.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: He if but the thing is, if Ian Gary can
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: get off sharp combinations early he could stun him. Yeah,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: because Ian can move. He's fast, fast as fuck, and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: he's super accurate. And the way he throws his strikes
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: is like real clean, no fatness move, everything's like that.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: He's very responsible. Yeah, he's not like a physically overpowering guy.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: It's technique. His technique is sharp. Did you see his
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: interaction that time? What comes out?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: There was a little too much of a pat on
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: the back.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: That's what the fuck I'm talking about? Was wrong? And
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: I don't get against him, but there's like a pat
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: on the back.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he went up to him, like what do you
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: think he was trying to check him? What do you know?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: You got coming up all you feel strong?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: And there's a weird thing.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: He hit me a little too hard on the back.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: You know, there's one there's a hug and then there's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: a slap slap. Yeah, where like there's a slap slap
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: that's like a.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: Little aggressive some male dominance.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: What are you trying to do? You don't like me?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Are you hitting me?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: You feel like it feels like you're hitting me a
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: It's like if you were.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: If you hit a woman in the face like that,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: you go to jail.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: You're hitting me in the back.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: If you like, hey, where's my focus, spaghetti and you
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: double me slapper in.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: The right now. I don't even like from so many
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: right hands. If you see this little that's bumping out, Yeah,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: I don't like. I sucked it up on showing his head.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: But I don't like when guys try to when they
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: first meet, squeeze the hand and they try to squeeze
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: because I want to smack him right there, because it's
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: because I feel pain with that ship.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: No he's talking about the Hams. No, no, No, that's
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: shop cut that dare you? Yeah, what are you looking at? No?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: It was Jamie. Wasn't that a fight? It was like
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: stage stay up.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: I felt, I honestly felt bad for Hamza trying to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: make one eighty five from all that I heard before
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: the Strickland fight, like he almost died. Yeah when he
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: made one eighty five when he fought Strickland.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Really yeah.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: He was apparently thinking that he was going to go
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: up to light heavyweight and they were even talking about
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: him fighting Yeerie, and so he was preparing like he
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: was going up to light heavyweight and if you watch him,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: he's another guy who's got a great YouTube channel. He
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: details all his training. He was hanging out with that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: Calavita guy doing a lot of Cardi on strength here.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: It is like he gave he gave him for that though.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: I think it was like, good job, tonight, good job.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: And I think he slapped him on the back before that.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: There was or maybe it was after. I don't know
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: what it was, but it was enough. So like he's
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: fine now, like they seem cool. Oh no, no talking
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: a little ship. He's a champion, don't worry. So yeah,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: well you know Hamsa.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Doesn't well, I mean he gives a little that little
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: squeeze on the shoulder. B Yeah, that was not necessarily.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: Chechnya is not America, right, Okay, dudes that come from
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: that is a war torn country and those motherfuckers don't play.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: And the guy who turns it, the guy who runs
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: it is it's Ham's homie, ye, which is like okay,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: so much so he lets him tap him out. Yeah
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, but that's how it goes. You know, you
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: gotta do what you gotta do. But I like the fight.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I think Ian has a real chance.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I do too. I think early he does. But if
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: he gets if he gets taken down repeatedly, he gets.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Taken done, he might just get smushed, might get choked
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: and smushed and choked. I don't know stru on the
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: ground he did. But again, that's a couple of years ago.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: It's not like he's not getting better.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I mean that dude. Yeah, he's smart, like he knows
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: how to he knows how to get himself prepared.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: I just think he's got his edges on the you know,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: on the feet obviously, So I think that's where he
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: if he's gonna win, that's where he will.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know why people don't like him. I love him.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: He also is awesome. He also almost finished Shovcott with
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: a real naked shoke if I remember correctly, does that
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: he did? He did have back, Yeah, he had his back.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that. I forgot about it. I
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: mean he that was the closest anybody came to finishing.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: And he also fucked up Shavcott's knee. Yeah, he hit
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: him with that oblique kick to the knee, and that's
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: the reason why Shovecott had to get surgery. Really and
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: he's had two surgery since. Yeah, like he ain't even
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: made a post about it. Yeah, damn, that's so rude,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: so rude. This is why he had to get surgery.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: I think he had made a post. I saw a
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: post that maybe somebody attributed to Ian, but it was
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: it was his work. I mean, look, it's a legal
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: technique and he's really good at it. And the way
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: he throws it that oblique way sideways to the knee,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: that's fucking devastating.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: And he's long enough to do he just kind of yeah, man,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: John Jones style, but he's like with his the way
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: he could move in with combinations, it's very hard to
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: deal with. But even he had to fucking grab MVPs
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: like right, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, where
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: you can't hit them. Yeah, you're like, what am I
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: doing here?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: But that's why I like Ian, like in terms of
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: like think about that, Like he's able to solve them problems.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Like he says, i Q is so high.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: He's beating guys like m v P and like guys
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: at other people and Carlos protest guys that other people
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: can't beat.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Very true, very true.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: Look that there it is right there. That's it right there, man,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: get back it up against what we hit it.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, damn, that's look how bad that
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: is right there in the wooden dummy. That's a wing chunk.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Real, it's real wing chun works proof. Gary's no joke, man,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: He's fucking dangerous. And that style of being that tall
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: is so hard to deal with. Matt, my short brother,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you something, especially a little trolls like us,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 6: you always try to latch onto my head.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: It's just so hard to even spar with tall guys
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: because they can hit you from six inches further away
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: then you can hit them. That's a lot of space you.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Got to come in behind that double triple jam.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that you you can do anything,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: and you should be able to kick to the knees.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: I hate the fact that he blew his knee out.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: We really haven't seen him the same since we I mean,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: he's been two surgeries. I think he had one fight
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: after that, right, did he have one more fight? He
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: had he's had a Did he have a bad car
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: accident or something like that? Yeah? I thought so. I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: don't know, maybe I'm not, or maybe it was just
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: his family. Maybe I don't know. I hope he's okay.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: I just missed the guy in the octagon. He's fucking
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: good man. Chof cut was good. It's just like one
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: technique can change her.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: I thought he was coming back, like trying to rehab
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: from whatever from the accident, like I thought. I mean, look,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: he obviously well first for sure.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: For sure had a cl surgery before that, so he
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: might have.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's what happened. Maybe he redid it.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Fuck dude, that sucks.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: He's so good. But then again, it's like this fucking
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: sport waits for no one. These dudes are coming up,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: coming up. You know what I'm bombed that got canceled
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: this weekend is Ethan Ewing.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, he came onto the scene and uh
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: it was a short notice fight maker at Madison Square
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: Garden and well Maker and well he's having a hard
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: well Makers having a hard time lately. He lost his
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: last one too, and he's a better fighter than that.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: So he's a young kid, so we'll see the best
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: from him yet.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: But well, he came out so spectacular, well Maker, did
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: he looks so good? In his debut and he looks
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: like he's you know and on the Contender series it
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: looks like he's he's really good.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: But fucking yes, he's really good.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: He is real good. And he's another guy like we're
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: talking about like these this new breed of guys like
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: the san Haagens, constantly switching stances, constantly giving you different
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: angles and directions. It's like very hard to pattern that
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: he is. He on the counter card too, right, she was.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Batista?
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was Ethan was on the card and
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: I think they pulled him off. Yeah, he was the
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: dude he's fighting was undefeated. What's there? It is Bossarat Yeah?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Fuck and good that that's a really good he's.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Tall, rangye heat like that would have been interesting. Yeah,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: the car he's injured, he'll be back. But I like
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's not fighting injured too, because this
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: is a pretty significant injury. And so when these guys
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: they say fuck it, I'll just do it, and then
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: you have one loss, and then that loss leads you
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: you know, your.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Career can go down a weird road. Good, it's a
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: very good card.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: Ben Wain, Sandini and Patty Pimblet.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Right, that's right, and then Connor Maxis is on this
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: one too, right, there was he was going around that
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Josh hok It.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: I was like, please don't make that be true.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Yea, he's a minus twenty five hundred.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: Robert Whitaker and Nikita Kryloff is good too. Man. Robert
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: is going from one seventy to eighty five to now
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: light heavyweight. Isn't that crazy?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: And he's not that he's not that big, not that big?
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: No, is he like six ft short?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Not even no?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: Six? How tall is Robert six feet tall?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Six?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: So he's uh, I mean he's a thick fella. Yeah,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: definitely got to be walking around at like two thirty
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: or something like that. But these guys are so tall
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: and so rangy, and that fucking Nikita Kryloff guy can kick. Yeah,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: he's a legit two five too. He's Cody's still lighting
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: up YEARI in that fight before he got caught, remember,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah he was lighting year Yeah for sure. Yeah, Cody,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's time.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: To Cody Asrian yanyas man.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: He went through a bad streak too, But that dude's
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: very skillful, very good boxer. Yeah, he looked Cody doing too.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: What is this thing on his eye? Angry that he's
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: good looking? Yanya is, Yeah, he's got a doctor. It up.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: The kids these days they like face tattoos.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: He's young.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: He has four point fifty favorites. I'm saying like he's
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: just been too many times, too many times.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: What's an age thing too? I mean, Cody's not actually
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: that old. I think he's only like thirty three. How
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: old is Cody Garbrant thirty three? No, he's got to
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: be older than that.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's old. No, I don't think he's old.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: I think he started his career thirty four.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I think he started his career really young.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: Dudeh July seventh week. That next week Max started was
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: what nineteen? This guy's still bright. Yeah. Well, you know,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: when I interviewed them for the UFC at the White House,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: which is the most ridiculous thing in the world. I'm
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: sitting there in this baughless like beautiful adorned room with
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: like gold on the ceiling and shit like that, and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: on a chair with a camera in front of me,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: and then there's a monitor here that's Connor, as a
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: monitor there that's Max and they're arguing with each other.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: You won't lay a glove on me.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: It was it was crazy to see the two of
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: them going back and forth.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: It's fun seeing Connor come back. Man, I know he.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: Cracked me up. Man, he was cracking me up.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: I can't wait till fite week. It's gonna be amazing.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: Look, I hope he looks great. I hope it's a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: good fight. But you know, it's a tall order to
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: take on Max Holloway after he was just the BMF
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: champion he beat Dustin Poier. Yeah he lost to Ilia,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: but like you look at the wins that that guy's
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: had in his career and how he's looked since their
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: first fight. Is a totally different human being. This is
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: a world champion, like one of the all time featherweight greats.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: I think if Connor don't knock him out early, he's
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: in for a long night.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maxkin fight with no weight cut, No, we never
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: get tired.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: People are saying like, oh yeah, but what about moving up.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's great for him, he don't have to cut,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: no way for him. It's great for both of them. Listen,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: this is the future.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: I would hope, I would hope guys would abandon weight cutting.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: I really do, and I think the UFC should accommodated
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: by letting go of these ridiculous weight limits.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Let's just find out what guys way. Let's find out
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: what guy's way and like have them fight. Does one
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: still do that? I mean that was the way to go,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: like a year and then like this is where you're
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: going to fight.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: If I would run things like one because they also
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: allow steroids allegedly, I might have just I don't want
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: to get slandered. I don't want to get sued. I
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: don't think they did they have. I think they have
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: drug tests at one. I think it's like a multiple
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: choice and multiple I want guys to I want them
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: to take peptides.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: I want them to take everything they have.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: I want to give them a hyperbaric chamber, like let's
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: go and then just release them, release the hounds. I
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: want the best fighting that's humanly available, the old Yeah,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: that's exactly what it is. I want the enhance games
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: m M A bouts.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, but with.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: Connor and Max one guy, even in his prime, conn
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: has always showed signs, shown signs that you know.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: His endurance was never the best. He's a sprinter, and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Max is man. He's the guy in the last round.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: Thirty's winning a fight thirty point, he's fresh, round is
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: as good as his first.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: Max Is discipline is beyond compare. Like that motherfucker trains hard.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: You might train just as hard, but the ain't harder.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: I think Dan harder. The craziest one was when he
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: put it on Calvin Cater and he was, yeah, we
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: were there.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: We were the best time.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: It was so crazy.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: He was watching that cage side and I him looking
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: away talking and hitting him was just something.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: Bro. How about Brian Ortega when he was fighting him,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: showing him how to keep his hands. He grabs him,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: grabs his hand and puts it by his head to no,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: dude like this he can block it and then pops
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: some of the jab again. Bro. Max always a bad motherfucker.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think it's going to be interesting
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: to see. Look, Connor in his prime was elite Connor
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Eddie Alvarez. If is that Connor right now? Max, I'd
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: be like, holy shit.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's that's that's different.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: But can he regain that for him?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: We don't know. I mean, he's a special dude, look
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: at this, just Pop talking ship to him.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Dana was Dana was losing his mind over there.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's also COVID so you could kind of hear him.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, look at that.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Look at that right here?
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: At it? He even looking at it, slipping ship.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I'm the best boxer in the UFC.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: Look at this, bro. He's such a bad motherfucker. And
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: if he starts talking to Connor like that in the
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: middle of the fight and teeing off on him, if
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: Connor gets tired, it.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Could get rough. Look at his last fight with Dustin.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: The difference is Connor. I don't give a fuck if
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: he's thirty nine. I don't care how old he is.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: That dude's got the touch. He's got the touch of death.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: And he's very accurate, and he's accurate, and he's fat
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: asked as fuck. And when he's sprinting, when he's sprinting,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: he moves quicker than anybody. It's like, you can't do
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: that for five rounds. But if he does it and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: cracks you, you're in. You're on Foxville. Look what he
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: did to Aldo, Little Fox's ever done that to Aldo?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: That's the touch.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: Do you think there's any chance that Connor wrestles him.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: I think Connor might try to wrestle him a little bit.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: So Nate said, because he wanted to turn into.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe looking at that and then maybe I don't
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: I think Max has got to put it on him
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: a little bit and then he'll shoot. Because he's not
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: in it for war.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: That's gonna get him even more tired he did in
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: his first fight he wrestled. We say he's not in
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: it for war, but he can surprise us man, like
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the humiliation of losing that second fight to
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Dustin with a broken leg and sitting there and having
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: to go out for all the Who knows how he
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: responded to that.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: Obviously he did a lot of parting. We don't know
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: what kind of training, you know. And if he really
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: is still the Connor McGregor that had something to prove
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: when he entered into the UFC, and he can get
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: himself into that mindset and get through camp with that mindset,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: who knows, man, I mean, he he definitely looked focused
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: as fuck when I was talking.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: To him in the interview.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: It doesn't really mean anything until you actually see him
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: move around. But if he really prepared himself correctly. He
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: wants to make a stand and show that he could
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: still do it. This might get wild, but if.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: That's the strategy, fuck man. If he's worried about his
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: endurance already or if that's a question. If that's the strategy,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: it's not like he's gonna take him down and just
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: smoke him. Max's got he hasn't round.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: I would like to talk to Kavanaugh and see what
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: was the plan, Like, how did what did you guys do?
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: How long was the camp? Like how did it start
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: before the camp? Yeah?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: So I had talked to Laurasanko who interviewed Kavanaugh, and
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: she said that he wouldn't say it, but he kind
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 5: of alluded to that wrestling might be a part of
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: the game plan.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: Well that might be a ruse. Yeah, that might be
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: the lure. Because the way that Charles hand old Max
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: in the last fight was crazy.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: But also that's charge.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Everybody else took Max down like that is a monster, Charles,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: He's so good on the ground, man.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Max had to survice some ship that other people would
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: have tapped and Pears. What's crazy Islam smushed him.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Right right.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: There's crazy levels to this sport Islam smushed him. He mush.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: He was tapping like immediately he was like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: I ain't getting out of this.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going night night.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: That's how good he is. I mean, his his squea
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: when he got Drew dober in half guard arm triangle
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: from half guard is like just no.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Half guard here, Yes, this is just smush.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Pressure, just pressure is fucking phenomenal, incredible squeeze, like he
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: just cuts off the blood like there's nothing you could
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: do about it. That forearm grip dars that he uses.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Do you with that? I don't mess with that, but
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: I know how powerful it is.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: Do you fuck with it?
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Matt? That was never my thing?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: And the because we're armed.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: These are great for some things, but not for.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Because like all you have to do is grip here. Yeah.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: I never tried it though, but I did used to
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: like the Japanese necktie for the same reason. Because the
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: Japanese necktie when you're funneling under for when you go
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: for that underhook on the left arm and you get
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: it behind the head, you cinch down like this and
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: then instead of trying to go all the way through
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: and since it up as a doors. You take it
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: from this position with this lever on the back of
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: the neck, and you tuck the neck into your chest
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: and then you.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Grab a leg. You grab a leg and you do this.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: You lean on this shoulder so you once you sinch
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: it up. As soon as you get this forearm behind
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: the neck, the first thing to do is you put
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: your left shoulders to the mat. So your left shoulder
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: you drop down the mat. And usually they think they're
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: gonna spin out of it, but you're trapping the head
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: and your shoulder. There's a video of me.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: There's a video of me showing it to TJ. Dillashaw.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: We're we're at the on It headquarters and I'm showing it.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: I'm to do it. It's great for short army. No,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: you're on the dark position right, So he's got the underhook.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: You funnel on it.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: You get it behind the head. Once you get it
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: behind the head, you use this lever. You pin that
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: down on the neck. And the first thing I want
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: to do is put my left shoulder over on the top.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: So here, oh here it is, so here it is.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: So once you get to this position and you climp,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: I want to put my shoulder down and then.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: His head is trapped.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a neck crank?
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: It's horrible. You hipping in, yes, and you usually grab
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: a hold of a leg.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: They can just step erwards right there, Jamie, back it
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: up to where I'm showing it to him, and then
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: I talk through it.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: Back it up a little bit. Yeah, there it is.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Give me some volume.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going on my left shoulder.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going on my left shoulder, yeah, all the
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: way side.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 12: So you're hoping to like even before you fall down immediately,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 12: because it exactly so as soon as I sinch my
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 12: hands together, I'm hooking a leg, I want to tie
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 12: them up.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: I want to tie them up, and I want to
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: get him in a position where things going to roll
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: out of it like you will with the dars. You
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: can't exactly because I also because I'm trapping your head
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: in my chest. So you're you're just worried about me
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: getting this, but I'm not even trying to get that.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting to this gives the volume right here, dude,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: that's a.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Would you get it?
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: See people like when they put their legs in there.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: That's what he was just saying. That's why it's like
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: it's really good that cranks. Yeah, yeah, there's more. You
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: very rarely see this in the UFC, and it's available
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: too because also the gloves they get in the way
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: of certain chokes, like definitely rare naked chokes. It's so
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: hard to get the hand in the proper position with
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: the back of the hand on the head. Does it
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: matter which leg you step over like he set over
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: the first, you stepped over the far leg.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: With the far leg's better, you get better control.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter as long as you can tie
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: him up and trap his head inside your chest. So
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: once the head's in the chest, you're in a terrible
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: position to defend because it puts your head of this
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: nasty angle. Like the moment your head gets to that angle.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: So TJ showing like one of the ways that he
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: does it.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Is different from you.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: He's trying a different grip. I like my grip better.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: Well it's not my grip, it's Eddie Bravo's grip, but
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: I like the grip better because you got the lever.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: So the thing is about having it go through this lever.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: When you get this forum on the back of the neck,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of power there's a lot of power
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: that way. So if you see how I'm doing I'm doing.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: It like a little bit with yours too.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: You were You're all on his on his head and
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: neck TJ is cradly. So he did it that way
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: now like in that that time, Now he's doing it
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: the right way. That's that's nasty. And then once it
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: gets in the chest, yep, trap the leg. He can
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: trap either leg. It's the whole thing is just trapping
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: the head. You just want to make sure you have
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: contact with his body so his left legs or his
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: legs rather can't spin out. You don't want I'm spinning
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: out because then his head's gonna get free. It's nasty,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: but it's just I don't see it in M M A.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: And I don't know why, because it's available when guys
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: are trying to get the dars and they can't get it.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of times the legs are tangled up,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: and it's it's horrible because you have this level. You
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: remember when Kabeb tapped corner and everybody's like, oh, you
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: didn't even there wasn't even in he was doing that
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: same ship, but he was doing across the neck on
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: the back.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: Horrible.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: It's going to break your neck, man, and that's what
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: that feels like. But that's even worse because it's sideways
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: and you got your body on it.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: But the worst that I've never seen in the UFC
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: is the executioner. I don't think i've ever seen anybody
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: get that rear that you know, you're in the back
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: mount and.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: You reach over and you go gi it.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: Yes from this.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: That the other day, well, that was the the Scottish
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Scottish swister. Scottish twist. That's different.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: St Scots switch was different. Scottish twitter swister is a
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: little different. It's still nasty as fuck. That's you're leaning back.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's horrible in your name. That attacks the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: spine and the horrible.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: But I couldn't The executioner's the worst, Yeah, because you're
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: you've got rear naked hooks and you've got.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: The head back this far.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: Man, You're going like, that's nuts, that's nuts.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that's a catch wrestling thing, right Ah.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: That I don't know, man, that sort of started popping
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: up a tenth planet at least like in the two thousands,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: like two thousand and three, or four. So Epstein likes
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: to call it the executioner, but he wasn't the only
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: guy doing it, like other guys had figured it out.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: So you're in North South, which a lot of guys
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: you know that was back in the north. God, yeah,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: this is it right here, bro, This is holy hell.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: When you're in rear naked choke position but you have
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: the the the arm wrapped like that, the amount of
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: pressure on the spine is just crazy. It's you comparably.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Long island knuckle ahead. They'll be fucking.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: On that. Look at how nasty this is. Like, it's
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: such a bad position to try to defend. You have
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: no strength to defend it. Yeah, that's a wrap hell,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: that's all. And I don't see it in the UFC,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: and I don't understand why I think it's available. I
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: think some guys could get this. I mean not always,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of times you're trying to fight
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: the rear naked choke or that you're trying to get
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: the renicked chup with the guys defending, and if you
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: switch to something like this, if you could find a
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: way to get into a position like this, you're not
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: going to defend that man.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 5: Well, the truth is that a lot of guys in
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: the UFC or an MMA in general don't really practice
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: jiu jitsu from that standpoint. They do anti jiu jitsu
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: because they think that their chances of winning a fight
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: on their feet are better. So their idea is just
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: like defend to take down and get back to my feet,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: or just use basic jiu jitsu. So like stuff like this,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: it's available to them, they don't know it or they
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: don't practice it enough for be instinctive for them.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: To do it. The fact that they're just trying to
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: get up to defeats the first problem.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because look at Gilbert Burns versus Damien Maya. Match
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 6: your jiu jitsu a little bit and then he finds
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 6: the opening. If he doesn't match you jiu jitsu, he'll
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: use that. But then he hass to move a certain
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 6: way gives enough space to get to his feet.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: God, I gotta remember this guy's name.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: The guy who's the Bellator champion is from Ukraine who's
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: fighting in the UFC.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're slav myself, I knew that was
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: the name, and I didn't want to suck it up
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: and I was panicking.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy to but you know what, I
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: really panic way in days.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: You look in my face? Are you really hot? Pack?
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: Feeling for you? Sometimes like that, he's gonna forget the name.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: You don't bring the paper.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: In your paper? Do I have to you only don't
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: have to listen to these fucking names over and over again.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Fucking some of the and you know, and and it
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be mad at you if you mess it up it.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he should be doing it.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: I should just give the microphoneame till introduced. I'll just
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: interview people. He's the best at naming the names.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: I do that on Fielded I go, he Jimmy, who
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: do we have next? It's a fucking crazy name. I
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: just get the first name down. Your good. He's good,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: he's good.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: His ground game is so sweet.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Which show to pull up his last fight.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but back it up a little bit so you
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: can see the takedown. Watch how he does this. Look
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: at how beautiful this is, bro the I mean right
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: into arm triangle. Look at this bro and he goes
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: need to the belly to just crushing him.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Did you see his setup for uh Neil Magni Yeah, man,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: he's man. He's smooth, smooth, he's smooth.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: He put it on Neil.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then he breaks down. Dan gotta have
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: something actually little. That guy can move, and that guy's
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: really good. He's dangerous. Old Sean Alvarez, he would be
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: doing the windmill.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: He has one ko lost what was Jason Jackson Jackson.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: Jason Jackson knocked him out. He just put it on him.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: Jason Jackson just just murdered him, just like ran ran
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: across and beat him up. Yeah.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: I was talking to Big John and Josh Thompson on
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: the podcast. They brought him up like that. He's like
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: the most unheralded, the most underappreciated of the guys that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: are out there.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Jason Jackson. Yeah, So that's the problem when you're not in.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: The UFC, that is, and if the uf he picks
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: him up, I mean, it's gonna be kind of.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Late to dig through the rubble of his house to
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, geez, that's nuts, man, that's crazy.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: That's nuts.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: Put in perspective real fast. Holy shit, dude, how bad
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: did he want that belt? For real?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: I mean his dude went back to a war zone
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: to get his belt a Bellot Christ imagine as a
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: UFC belt.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: I don't love that bucking air.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: That's the fucking dude's good man. There's so many good
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: guys now, it's crazy. It's just a it's a wild
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: time for the sport man.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I like Big John. You know one
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: thing I don't like that he does it always irks me.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 11: Like Big Joe mccarfee.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: I like I won the title. He was my guy,
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: but uh, I hate this man.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 6: As you fucking savages know, when you're in there, you're
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 6: in a certain mindset, right, you got a guy looking
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: to do bodily harm to you. You're looking to take
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 6: him out anyway possible if there's a foul or something.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 6: Now you're in this mindset.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: So now you got this big fucking guy. Hey, what
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: do you see? You see ugly making John?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I want to go back to this
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: guy trying to kill me, big good one, Big John.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: You know what, John, you know like a joke. How
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: about this? Just go to the mother ship.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: Did you bring you out.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: In the hat? You take the name out and maybe
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: you could use that on kill Tony.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 6: Like that ship fun that every time he does it,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 6: there's something in me that makes me just be like, dude,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 6: is it about you?
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: This is the fun the matter, A good one, big John.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 6: And you see guy's doing sometimes you see the guys go,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, a dude funk that. It's the same as
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 6: it's the same as the guy looking to give you
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 6: a high five out there, funk That dude's so.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It always irked me.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 6: And it just stuck out when his name came up,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 6: and I I mean, he's not a big guy, he's
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: a great But how about this, now that you're back refing,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 6: make a note of that?
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with your head all right, it'd be like, man,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: make me listen to that. God, damn, I just got
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: poked in, you see, ugly bro.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: I think they're getting a little bit better about warning
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: people for fowls, but not better about taking points.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: They did for a little while.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 3: And wait, one point, everybody's crowd cheered. That's how it's
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: got to be, folks. That's the new rule. The new
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: rule should be, I poke one point, don't poke eyes.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: You do this ship and you jab someone in the
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: eyes one point? Well, yeah, one point right away?
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: You know, not to do it. Sometimes it happens.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately it happens, you get a point taken away. Don't
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: let it happen, and you go back to your corner
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: and go make sure you don't do that again. Nut
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 3: shot one point unintentional nun shot. It's a warning, like
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: because you could kick while I'm kickings, you weren't trying
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: to hit me in the nuts. We just collided legs.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 3: That happens all the time.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: The rough one is the call.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: The call is the back of the head when you're
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 6: trying to put a guy away because he's moving.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: It's hard. That's hard. It's kind that's hard.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 5: And that spot is a lot smaller than what most
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 5: people think because we because we we think about it.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 5: They just ate the back of the head, so you're
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: assuming that it's like anything.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: Like a little small crazy though, you kind of should
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: be able to hit the.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 6: Back of the he if everybody had the oda Osbourne haadcut,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: it'd be okay.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when Henso fought what was his name
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: rikers ben rikers, spikers, spiders, spikers, and it showed if
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: you're allowed to elbow the back of the head the
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: rear mount when Henzo was dropping bombs on him and
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 3: then stepped on that door and put.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: Away put in the sleep with his jacket.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: Remember it was a beating he gave him before he
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: choked him to sleep.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: Beating in the back hole in my fucking room all
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: night long. The guy was the guy before. Yeah he
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: did what he though.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was call in his fucking room trying
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 4: to wake him up, like had his people harassed and
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: Hens he was a dick.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 3: Hens why him?
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 6: And he said, oh you have not you have eyes
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 6: like my my girlfriend. But they're prettier some fucking so right.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 6: Hens is one of those guys that he can go
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 6: from a smile to a fucking bow and about.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: The zero to one hundred really quick.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, only if you're a dick, you're not.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: He's the nicest there.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: That position just shows you if you're allowed to do that. Yeah,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: this is the show before that. Watch what he does
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: before it once to hear this, once he gets them
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: back mount. Watched this, man, I mean, dude, that's a wrap.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: You can only take imagine.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: That was in m m A. Why Now here's the
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: thing is that inherently dangerous? Is it that much more dangerous.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, what we're doing is already dangerous, right, and.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: It also is very effective. So are we removing a
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: very effective technique that would end fights? And if so,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: are we doing it to protect the fighter? Because if
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: we are, why are we allowing a lot of other stuff?
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: Why are we allowing flying knees? Why are we allowing sidekicks?
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: Why we allowing wheel kicks to the head? Heels to
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: the head, smack him in the face again? Yeah, hey,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: nice fight. I mean, there's a certain amount of things
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: that we already allow that are so bad for you.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: It's like, why don't you allow a shot to the
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 3: back of the head? I need to explain to me,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: like I'm a child, Like why is it okay to
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: slam your elbow full blast.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: Into someone's temple? Yeah, but not this one. You could
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: drive your elbow.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: Down into their eye socket, that's okay, But the back
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: of the head is bad. But also the back of
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: the head's fine if you knock someone out from the
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: back of the head and he didn't mean to, like
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: a head kick, like how many headcakes wrap around at
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: the back of the head?
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: Right, wonder boy?
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: And it's like his UFC debut he goes over the shoulder,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: back of the head olcohol. Yeah, that ship always works
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: the back of the head brown kicks. That's a lot
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: of times where they land getting hit in the back.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: It is a little different. How many times do like
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: like Ernesto, who's knocked dudes out with back of the
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: head head kicks in kickboxing all the time.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: I think that's how he knocked out Maurice Smith. I
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 3: think he's snucking around over the shoulder and hit.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: Him in the back of the head.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, anatomy is going to dictate that.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: But that's what you're supposed to do, so that's legal.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: No one says that's an illegal blow my over hands.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: It's where they hit a lot.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you want me to do this is what
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: is part of the sport right now. If that's legal
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 3: and you get okay, oh win. If you head kick
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: someone you land him in the back of the head,
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: that it's always happened, That's happened a hundred times.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's weird. It is. I
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: mean it's weird because I mean, then now we're playing
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: with all these different rules and people don't like them,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, but I mean, you got to
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: draw a line somewhere, I suppose.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: But see if you can find Arnesto, who's uh Ko's
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 3: Maurice Smith Less rules shows who's the better fighter, right,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: But those there's some rules that I'm like, okay, but
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: now you're getting a unrealistic understanding of a position, like
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: when someone's in a turtle and you can't need that.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that one should be eliminated right away.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: You should be able to need a guy in ahead.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: Watch this. Look at that ship there it is right
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: at the back of the Watch that again. Can you
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: is it in slow motion?
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Watch?
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 3: How slick?
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: Crazy? It was like Billy Jack, look at that brow yep.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 3: And you know so if that happened in the UFC,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: everybody would cheer. You couldn't say, hey, that's an illegal blow.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 6: Right even though technical that's the spot where they can
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 6: constitute illegal blow.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's illegal. Yeah, that's illegal. And wheel kicks happen
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 3: like that all the time.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: All the time. Because he's coming from that angle from.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: Around the guy tries to duck under hits him right
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: in the back of the head and no one complains, Yeah,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: it's weird. No one referee never says stop. No striking
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: in the back of the head never happens.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: Ever, it's only when they're like turning around and they're
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: throwing arm punches. Yeah, which is the least, which is
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: less powerful than a full kicked it ahead.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: But the reality is if you were in that position
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: and the guy could throw elbows to the back of
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: the head, that would be a wrap. In that same
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: position where you're on a guy's back and you're doing
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: this kind of ship instead, if you're.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: Just back of the head boom like Kenzo just to right,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: Hey man, what about headbuts? Right? Head butts not even
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: even standing up right like when I'm in a I'm buried.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 3: It's good for sure, Guys, I love you, get your
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: head all day getting that Coleman would get in your
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: guard and head butt the fuck And the only guy
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 3: to solve that puzzle was Maurice Smith. Well, Maurice Smith
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 3: was the first guy to solve that puzzle out Cardio
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 3: Cadi Cardio and defense off his back. Good butterfly guard
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: Mark Kerr murdered Fabio Gergel with head butts too.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: Bro head butts when you were on top. Is brutal. Yeah,
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: I was in fight. That was the first fight I
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: ever went to. Really UFC fight I ever went to.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: Is in Bourbon Game, Alabama. Really, I was THEREA wow, bro,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: that was a huge upset. Yeah, I know.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody, I was nervous.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: I was in the crowd rooting for Maury Smith for
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: obvious reasons. Well, I was friends and everybody, but I
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: was the only one there Smith.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was friends with Maurice Morris came over my house,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: worked out with him. I was cool with Marine guy.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: So it was like I was sad. I was like,
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Maury's is gonna fight Mark. You're gonna
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: get killed. I was like, he was two hundred and
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds a wrestler.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: He takes everybody down. And then when Maurice was leg
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: kicking them, he said, come on, Mark, ground me and
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: pound me, ground me and pound me. It was talking
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: to him while he was doing it. And then when
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 3: Mark moved towards me away right back in. Those leg
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 3: cakes were brutal to Maurice was the first guy to
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: bring like world class leg kicks to the uf C.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: World class the Lions. Then guy actually Petro yeah, yeah
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: sions pete uh.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: William Williams knocked him out the head kickers. I think
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: Maurice beat him first. But Maurice beat him by decision, right,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't in a five round decision. I think it was
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: a five round He just beat him up. Williams called
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: him a kick.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: Williams head kicks with shoes on. That's right, bro, what
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 3: a crazy sport man. I remember one of the first
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: fights that I saw was this Japanese dude and Valigi
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: and the they were grabbing each other is like underwear
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 3: like you could hold up. He was giving him a wedgie.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: I think the dude he was fighting like was literally
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: grabbing his shorts and like giving him a massive wedgie
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 3: during the Holy.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally legal.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: It was totally legal in the UFC. It was bare
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 3: knuckle back then too, the first bare knuckle that was
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: ninety Remember that V Tour was the only guy that
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: had gloves.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: First guy or Tank the first guy to Tank was
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: one of the first guys. For sure.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: Tank might have been the first guy. I believe he
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: was the first guy. And then V Tour warre him too.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: V Tour was, you know, bro, nineteen years old and
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: Vi Tour first fought in the UFC.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: It was a tornado. Yeah ship, dude, I mean on
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: that mother hundred. Well not yet, he didn't. When he
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: first fought in the UFC.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: Only weigh two hundred pounds. When he fought Trey Teligman,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: he won, weigh two hundred pounds. Then he gained tons
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: of weight and fought Randy And when he fought Randy,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: he was like two forty.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: And that messed him up too. He was too big.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: Randy got cut in that one, remember, No, that was
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: a different one that was in the UFC later on. Yeah,
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 3: so this was like, so that is Trey Telegman and
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: Trey Teligman. If you're watching this, he's lost his checking
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: out his peck rather in a car accident when he
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 3: was a Baby's crazy, Yeah, crazy, This is Brad Kohler.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a different fight. What is going on here?
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 8: Japan nineteen ninety seven.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is not that's not Japan ninety seven.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: It's UFC twelve. Actually, Japan ninety seven was when Frank
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 3: Shamrock fought Kevin Jackson. Remember any armar. Yeah, this was
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: was pretty crazy. This is a different card. It's ultimate
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: Japan ninety seven. UFC twelve is the fight.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: You remember the number. Yeah, Brandy looks older there than
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: he does now, peptids, it's not It wasn't Japan though.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 8: I was just heard you say something about Japan and
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 8: it's nice seven.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: That's all I typed in.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: No, No, there's a Japanese fighter, That's what I said.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 3: He fought Beligi Ishmael. It was either UFC twelve or
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: UFC thirteen Walid Ishmael UFC. If you find that, you'll
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: find it. And the dude was giving him a super weggie.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: You were totally allowed to short. You can punch guys
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: in the nuts, yea punching Joe soon in his ball
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: Ye remember that dude? What about Gary Goodridge and the crucifix?
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: So here, so here, just look what the dudes do.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: It done to Luigi's pants.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 3: All up the crack because the dude had a hold
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: of his shorts earlier in the fight. Rather that be
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: mackenzie der He's given.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, due here it is brow checked brow Oh
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: my god.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: So this was my first UFC that I worked. Okay,
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: so look the Japanese guy has the gloves on as well.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: So Vitor had him on, but is sharing.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to grab it back then.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: Look at the Japanese guy has gloves, Valigi's bare knuckle.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: It's Hilarious't that crazy? He's really grabbing his grabbing his nuts.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: I think you could grab nuts. Gotta be so uncomfortable.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: He looks like he's grabbing a fence. He's like, yeah,
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: Big John's trying to pry his hands away. He just
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: grabs him again.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: He don't even let go. At least back then, I
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: guess you couldn't grab the fence, so there was a rule.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: He's grabbing it again.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: Liter the grab that's the most blatant friends grabbing of
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: all time.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: I see ugly right.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: There, bro, Big John, what you get on it? John John?
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: Slap his hands away, John John. Johnny's grabbing the fence.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: They really it was like a suggestion back then, it
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: was not even a rule defense.
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: I think he knocked his hands away. He was saying,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: don't defense, but only like a little He's kind of
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: not that enthusiast.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: And it was like as he was letting go already
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: he was grabbed it.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first UFC I worked. They the
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: rules back then were so weird.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: Shoes. Wrestling shoes. It's weird now, you you know, like
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: wrestling shoes would change everything. You get so much more
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: grip on the cage, so much more ability to move.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: But the wrestlers would love it. But also yeah, problem,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: Oh he looks a real problem. When I first started.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 6: Training, I remember with Kuk Cook back in the day,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 6: he used to wear wrestling sneaks and stuff, and I
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 6: remember being like, you know, I want it as much
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 6: for the street as possible. I remember that was my mentality,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 6: So I'd whar the wrestling sneak is I'm like, yo,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 6: funck this guys grabbing your foot and I'm like, yeah,
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 6: fuck that.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: And also like fitting up arm bars and stuff, like
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 3: when you try to grab the foot and throw it over,
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: Now you've got a grip on something that's like text textile,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 3: Like you could hold on that.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker a foot is foot's hard to hold on too.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: They get sweaty and ship they're all slippery. Nah, no good. Yeah.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: When I hear Jens Polver, I was like, he gonna
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: wear shoes.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 6: That was, hey, hey, Jamie, could you fight Dean Thomas
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 6: is rolling knee ball on Jen's Polver.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: I bet they don't even have that. I think Jamie can.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: It has to be online everything, Thomas.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: Those fights, those old fights, I mean those are historyes.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: How much shooto fighter?
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 6: I remember seeing that interview because I you remember saying it.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 6: I studied it because I was gonna fight you. Oh,
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, ah, try that on me, motherfucker.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: Jens Polver had some laser beam punches back.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: I remember when he knocked out John Lewis. Oh his
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: PRN too. Yeah, but he did not want that guy
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: punching me.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be wearing shoes.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: It's just knee ball. Yeah, it's just too much, too
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: much of an advantage. It was an old school one too.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: You did it almost like you're gonna give your back
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: to him and roll roll under. I think you should
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: look at this. Look at this here it is, Look
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: at this. Look how lean.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: Inside heel hooked with shoes on that tapped a long
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: time ago.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: Thomas, Oh my god, that must hurt. Thomas. What did
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: it feel like? Did you feel I heard all the pop?
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: How bad was the injury?
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I never called him afterwards, but.
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 3: It had to be real bad, dude, it had to
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: be real bad with the shoes and everything. Like, my god,
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: look at that into that that's so pretty. Look at you,
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: look at you right into the inside. Oh my god,
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: he knows he's fox Bill.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I heard I heard it pop? You mean Thomas? Yeah,
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: I heard that pop a few times.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: How good is that feel?
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: It feels good.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 5: I watched myself get knocked out by b J Pen
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 5: over and over and over about the time I get one.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: Those heel hooks ones are the ones that you while
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: you're watching him, you're grab you know, you're already like
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: you're like, I hate them. I hate them with a
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: passion because they're ruined your whole career.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, do you see a Kimora Just look well that's
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: just ugly.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: It's like almost like I want to push it back
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: in you like Frank Mire girl, dude.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 4: Straight jiu jitsu tournament. I snapped the dude's humorous, just
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 4: like because my coach is yelling like, protect your fighter.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: Oh guy, that's horrible, and you don't recover fully.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 3: He had a good surgery. Sound like a pool stick snapping. Ah.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget the sound of Wideman when oh, come on, God,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, We'll never forget that sound.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: I remember that that was so that one was so loud.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: That was so loud.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 4: What are the chances Anderson does it to? You know,
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 4: he does it to Anderson and then it happens to
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 4: him to like it's only.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: Guys, and you see it's every Connor, Corey Hills the
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: first one. I remember the Corey Hill one because the
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: referee didn't see it and I put my headphones off.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: I'm screaming, stop the fight, stop the fight, stop the fight.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: Was it related to that, No, I think he has
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: some kind of disease, some kind of like something.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: A break of a bone is a traumatic injury, Like
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: you have to understand. This is such a difference between
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: breaking your hand, which I think we've all done. I
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: broke my arm when I was a little kid, breaking
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: your shin in half like that, it's such a traumatic.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 3: Frank broke his femur in a car accident. A guy
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: t boned him on a motorcycle, snapped his thigh bone.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 3: But Frank wasn't the same for years. It's a few
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 3: years for him to come back to full form of it.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: That rough. So this is the other question about Connor.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: How much can you use that left leg? His left
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: leg snapped in half? Okay, And I see him kicking
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: the bag and I see him doing all these things
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: and that's great, and I hope it's one hundred percent.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I've seen Chris Wayman kicking Hector Lombard.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 6: Weird thing where I think it's only body punches and
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 6: leg kicks. You see what I'm doing.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that jiu jitsu thing, but it is us. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: they're allowed to leg kick and body punch. It was
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: the oddest thing. It's the weirdest thing. I just saw
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: Chris just kept kicking them and Hector was like punching
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: him in the neck. Like I'm like, what the fuck
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: out of rules is this? It's crazy. I didn't know
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: what I was watching, those those ones with the dudes
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: like stand next to each other and just like kick
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: each other in dismission.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: That ship's nasty. Those are so that's so crazy.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: Who does it?
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, But there's a lot of those
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 3: videos as slap almost, I mean kind of almost, because
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 3: like you could really ruin your leg. You don't understand,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 3: Like Pedrohizzo, like one of those kind of guys.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine like doing that with Pedro?
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: Here, look at the damage his did the randoman's leg
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 3: or had a different vein pad. He got done with
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: him to It was like six months man to recover
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: to two fights this year.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: And then they fight, God damn man, a heavyweight fight.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus fuck, make me sick. It's horrible, man, And
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: I know how hard Chris kicks. Longo was like backstage,
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: he was killing the pads. It was all to hold them.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 6: Such a great friend, fucking then he went out there.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 3: And Jesus, Wogan's making me feel bad for being sixty eight.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's telling me he's so funny. And then
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: he was asking about a peptide. I have to text
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: him later.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: He's the best.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: He's You two together, I swear to should be a show.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 3: Come on, it should be a show. Follow him around, yeah,
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: just follow you guys around, follow you to the pizza place.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, be a great show.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: It would be a great fucking chuck it really would
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: you get one of them keeping up with Kardashians.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: People who know how to do a reality show?
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: Filmed the two of you guys together, hanging out drinking
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: coffee talking ship training fighters.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, epic. I mean, don't wait too long. He's getting older.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: And also think about how many guys you've worked with,
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 3: like the super high level guys like Al Joe and
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: Morob and you know, just being with them and Widman
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: being with them at the UFCS. Great fucking show. Who's
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 3: who's best? To have Mike's on in the corner, come
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: to get the best.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: It's so funny.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 6: I like that comedians are making comedies again. I'm looking
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 6: at Hall. This is halland Williams.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: He put a Gordon his fucking.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: Legs.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: He's so funny. His movie, you know, his movie Wingman,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 3: Of course he's funny.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: And everything you do. Yeah, it's I missed those. Yeah,
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: you know what it is.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 6: These comedians are now funding it themselves, like Theo vonn
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 6: and David Spade did bus Boys, and.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 4: Tom is doing a bunch of show. David Spade did
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 4: one together. There's real life Joe Dirt.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: So that's you know.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 6: They're just doing it where they don't have to get
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 6: okay okay by anybody. And the other one I keep
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 6: always send their body telling.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: Them what to do.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: How to, how to how to fucking be in a cult?
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: A cult with uh the Greek guy, the heavy Greek
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: guy is that Yeah, that's a funny one, dude, that
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: that one's that one made me.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 4: He's from Baltimore and he does a Baltimore Ravens fan
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 4: after every winter loss during the season, Like you have
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 4: to fucking see it because it's fucking hilarious.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: Very funny, dude.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I like this. It's a good time for
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: comedy because it's like pushback.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: When this pushback, then people get excited when someone doesn't
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: give into it. They make up make their own ship.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 3: But if you want to try to make a comedy
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 3: movie with a studio, you have to deal with so
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: many people telling you what you can and can't say.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: You're way better off just doing it on your own.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 3: Like they don't really know what funny is. They're trying
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 3: to protect their job.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 4: They have a machi and they were cranking them off
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 4: for a while. They're like Talad egg and Knights, Tropic Thunder.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 3: You know what happened, The fucking internet happened. People started
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 3: complaining in real life, like you know, it started. These
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: morons online started affecting the way people view comedy so ridiculous.
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: It's the meanwhile, didn't affect.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: The way we view violence, which is crazy, Like you
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 3: could have a super hyper violent movie. Nobody has a problem.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 3: It's the dumbest ship of all time. But if you
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: have some crazy like if you tried to make a
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: movie like like super Bad fucking hilarious, to.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: Try to make that today, couldn't make it. You couldn't
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: make it, or Tropic Thunder.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: To Thunder make it.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: Straight and black Face Trading stellar full retard.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 3: I asked him, I said, do you think Robert Downe
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: and Jr? I said, do you think you can make
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 3: that movie that?
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: He goes, Oh, you could make.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 6: Most of the eighties comedy guys trying to get Late.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 6: The premise alone is not gonna make it, you.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: It's funny, man, It's like we'll allow the most hyper
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 3: violent movies and celebrate them.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's awesome.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 3: Like I just watched Collateral again the other day. That's
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 3: awesome movie. We watched the scene in the and one
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: of the one of the episodes we did, we watched
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 3: that scene where shoots those guys, and I got so
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: into it. I need to watch that movie again. But
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: hyper violent in a movie that everybody says a wonderful movie.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: Comed enjoyed it. Let's make you laugh. But doesn't it like,
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: isn't it like spoilers? Like I don't want to spoil it,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: but like doesn't the other doesn't Jamie Fox kill something
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: or the well dies? I mean somehow, but like unbelievable
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: that he kills the manage, the assassin, the driver. I think,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: like you wanted to die.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: I think when you kill a bunch of people over
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 3: a long period of time deeper than.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 8: That supposed to be Russell Crow and Adam Sandler in
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 8: that movie are s that's crazy interesting.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: They should do it. Yeah, right, that's interesting. I'll tell
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: you what.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 3: Tom Cruise was good, phenomenal.
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: He's pretty much good.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 4: They say they used that clip of him in that
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 4: alley for training, like c I a motherfuckers?
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: Do you know the scene of his favorite scenes Jamie
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: pulling up one of my favorite, one of my favorite
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 3: scenes in any movie. Idiots. I love a good tactical
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 3: draw because I love I love a guy with practices.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: What's the it's underrated, it's a fucking it's a lived I.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: Repeat, Yes, Tom Cruise wanted something else, but Edge of Tomorrow?
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 3: What is it Edge of Tomorrow? That he is really good?
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 3: Kept coming back, coming back.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: This is a scene.
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 3: So Jamie Fox is trapped to the car. He's zip
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: tied him to the steering wheel and took the keys.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: That's fine, but uh, you can't have a bunch of
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: guys trying to get lad that's realistic. You're sending a
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 3: bad message spring ridiculous.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: I never thought of it that way. Actually, it's ridiculous.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 5: The comedians like rebuttal to it, you know, to not
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 5: being able to make the movie they want to make.
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it's only empowered. The clubs, like clubs are packed.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants because you go like you go to the
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: mother ship, you're gonna hear some wild ship. People want
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: to laugh. They don't nobody. It doesn't mean you mean
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: what you're saying, just.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 1: Right, right right, It's just it's calm you' it's a joke.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: Bob Miley didn't really shoot the sheriff. Like what you're
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: doing is fucking around. We all know we've always been
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 3: talking ship. Talking shit has been a natural part of humans.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: We talked ship, We joke around and the idea that
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: that's supposed to be up to someone's standards or someone
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: else's parameters.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: Of what you can and can't talk. Fuck you just
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: don't go. Don't go watch it.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady Rouce kind of brought it, brought it back
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 3: in a big way.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a big way.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The Tom Brady Roast I think cracked the egg
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 3: because I think got like fifty five million views on
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 3: Netflix alone, like within the first week. Yeah, people still.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: Getting canceled there. I think it's kind of passed. I
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: think it doesn't work. You can't because everybody can just
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: people get put your own stuff on. Yeah, you can
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: do your own stuff.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 3: What's also when people get canceled, people just flock to
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 3: those people now like makes them more popular.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, every look at Kanye.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 3: Kanye is selling out the biggest fucking places in the
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 3: world doing pop up shows. Yeah, he's doing arena pop
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 3: up shows.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: He just went in Miami a couple of weeks ago.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: My son went to it.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 3: He's doing one this weekend in San Antonio.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: Really just pop up show.
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 3: So Tony Hinchcliffe just went to the one in Tampa.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: He said it was insane. Yeah, this is the greatest
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 3: show he's ever seen in his life.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: He's on top of a world. He's standing on top
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: of a globe.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like it's spinning while he's up there doing
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: two and a half hours of bangers.
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you realize Tony goes, You realize how many
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: hits this guy has. Kanye Kanye otherwise known as Ya, Yeah,
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: that's yeah. No one wants to do a versus battle
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: against Kanye. He's so prolific.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and like Tony saying, every aspect of the
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 3: show he produced, so every sound has a like a purpose,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 3: every lighting effect, it's all coordinated. He said, it's amazing.
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: He's like a gen He's a genius.
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 3: Legit crazy is fucking a shithouse rat. But that's how
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 3: you have to know he's out there. I mean, but
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 3: most creative people different. You don't get that good by
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 3: being normal, right, Like he's too good, but I mean
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: normalst overrated. The guy comes back from wearing a diamond
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: encrusted swastika to selling out the biggest arenas in the world.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: He has a song called Kyle Hitler. A year later,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: he's selling out the biggest arenas in the world, Like instantaneously.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 3: Do you know he's the goat, Like, no one's even close.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: He's like one of the greatest performers of all time.
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's even close. Like with the stuff that
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 3: he does, like he compare it to his contemporary he's like,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 3: he's yeah, he's yeah, he's so far ahead of everybody
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 3: else out.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 4: The Prince was like a too. It's all the hits
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 4: he had and all the hits he's written for people.
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 4: When that Freddie Gray shit happened in Baltimore, he called
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 4: the city and wanted to do like a benefit concert
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And I was able to go to it.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 4: And at one point on the stage, he's doing all
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 4: these songs and he goes.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 3: God, damn, I forgot all the good shit. Then he
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: kept going.
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 4: But the best story was on soundcheck, like he tunes
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 4: everything's got to be the way he wants it, and
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 4: jay Z, Beyonce and somebody else. I don't know who
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 4: the third person was, but they were going to come
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 4: and be part of it. So they asked him if
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 4: he could come. He's like, yeah, sure. So when they came,
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 4: they started to going stage for soundcheck, and a friend
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 4: of mine at the building said prince like, whoa what
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 4: are you doing up on the fucking stage And they're like, oh,
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, we want to get our shit straight, and
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 4: he goesn't that this is my ship. You want to
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 4: come and be a part of it? Fine, if not,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 4: get the funk off the stage, and they fu you know,
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 4: they walked in and left the god out of there.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: But you gotta be careful with other stars because they
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: do like the metal. Yeah, and that light and that dude.
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 3: You know, ship was getting done how he wanted it done,
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 3: has to be.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: He was too good.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fucking genius. Guitar solo he did at
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  Speaker 3: the Rock and Roll Hall, Oh my god. He could
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  Speaker 3: do anything. He could play any musical instrument. He used
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  Speaker 3: to play all the musical instruments. Did you and he
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  Speaker 3: could play basketball?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you watch that Michael Jackson?
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  Speaker 3: I didna I saw it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I did?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was good, like you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't see it. I didn't see it. It's good.
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  Speaker 2: Watched it and then he told you what he told me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good thing. I guess after he's
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  Speaker 2: seen it. He goes, he didn't touch any kids. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, he didn't touch anything like
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  Speaker 2: long ago.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I want to know. Your thoughts on it.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. No, because like all the way his father's
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  Speaker 1: But now it's a good movie and the guy who
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  Speaker 1: played his nephew nailed it, man nailed My family loved it.
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  Speaker 1: My wife, kid, they loved it. I didn't see it though.
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  Speaker 3: It's a cautionary tale, the Michael Jackson stories, like when
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  Speaker 3: kids get that famous, no one can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what that is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's also the weirdness of the doctor saying that
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  Speaker 3: he was chemically castrated. His doctor killed him, the same
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  Speaker 3: guy that killed him with the prof and al put
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 3: him to sleep with anaesthesia. That guy said that when
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: he was young, his father chemically castrated him to preserve
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  Speaker 3: his voice.
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious? Well, they didn't get into that part.
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  Speaker 3: Which totally makes sense. When you look at him in
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  Speaker 3: comparison to all the other guys in his family. He's
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  Speaker 3: really thin, like he has no testile No one. All
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  Speaker 3: the brothers are all big. Yeah, they're men, like you
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  Speaker 3: look at Jermaine, they're big. He's really thin, and he
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  Speaker 3: kept that high pitched voice like when you listen to
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  Speaker 3: some of his like Human Nature. Listen to Human Nature,
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  Speaker 3: Like that voice is insane. Yeah, we can't play it
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 3: on the show, but Jamie play Human Nature by Michael
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  Speaker 3: Jackson real quick?
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  Speaker 1: Did Why did Varis get plump on Game of Thrones
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 1: when they cut off his ball?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that was real. You can still
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 3: get fat, but you can't you you know, you don't
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 3: get muscle, Like you don't have any testosterone. It's gone.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 3: You're burn feeding that guy either to keep him thin
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 3: so he could dance. Man. Well, also he's probably performing
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: every night, so he's burning off ship tons of If
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 3: they put a fitbit on that dude, the amount of
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 3: steps that he was taking, Dude, it's pretty crazy. Like
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 3: a front man for a band the fucking Run in
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: their day. We're don't play this song Human Nature the
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  Speaker 3: official music video. Same that voice, you I don't think
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  Speaker 3: you get that voice from a man, No man that
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  Speaker 3: has chemically the same way that they do it with
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 3: puberty blockers that they use on kids. You know, like
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 3: when you're when they do puberty blockers, that's what puberty
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  Speaker 3: blockers do. What they're doing is they just blocking all
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: of your testosterone production, and so they used to do
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: it to criminals. So if they had a sex offender
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  Speaker 3: that was chemically castrat.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, chop did dix off just eliminated, Well, just eliminate them.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 3: They should be eliminated. But the chemically castration thing they
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 3: used to do with opera singers. They call them castrados,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 3: but not chemically castrat. They used to use a knife.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 3: They used to chop their balls off when they were
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 3: young so that they could sing like like a woman.
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  Speaker 3: It was a very haunting sound. Like there's only one
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 3: recording of a castrado that's from like Jimmie, what was
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 3: it from like the eighteen hundreds. There's one recording of
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 3: a guy singing that that had no balls and then
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: they do it to them when they're really young. They
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 3: do it to him they're kids. Yeah, like your family
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: sells you off to some opera and they slice your
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 3: balls off and keep you that way forever. Weazy damn Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and the sound seem find that castrado recording with sound
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 3: is haunting.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: Man. You hear the guy singing and he creeps you out.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, this guy was a little
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 3: boy and they cut his balls off so we could
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 3: sing like this. So oh yeah, and I think that's
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 3: what they did to Michael Jackson. Well at least that's
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 3: what the doctor says. It makes sense.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense, like even watching a movie.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: How hard his father was on him, Man, how much
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: he demanded of him. Man, you're gonna creep us out.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 3: Now, listen to this guy's voice.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Christ, But we know that that was an actual process.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 3: That was an actual practice. They really did chop boys
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: balls off so they could sing better. Went from happy
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 3: human nature to sound funny. Was fucking dying and.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: Now it's really nuts if you think about the horrible
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 1: things that people were willing to do.
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  Speaker 8: It's not disproving it or anything. It's just a guy thing.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 8: He went to search where they were doing it. I
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 8: think he said he was having very trouble, a lot
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 8: of trouble finding a lot of information about costrados. Yeah,
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 8: and where they did it or how they did it,
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 8: but they hide that.
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  Speaker 3: I was chopping.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me take you to the lab. Show
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  Speaker 1: you will do.
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  Speaker 3: With the balls?
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: Are you doing those pep tipes?
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: Many eunuchs were castrated after puberty, and thus castration had
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 3: no effect on their voices. Oh that's a eunuch though,
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 3: That's just puberty. So you got to catch right, You
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 3: got to catch them before they grow their nuts.
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: It's so horrible, just as it goes back to foreign boy, Constantinople.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: Boy, who's who came up with that idea?
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: I have an idea.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: Infection from getting their nuts chopped off?
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: You know, probably a lot.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 3: I know back then they didn't even know what fucking
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 3: cooties were.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: They had no idea. They didn't clean the night. Yeah, no, disgust.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 8: Started off with as a punishment. It wasn't a choice.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: And then they realized this guy sing. Really nice person.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 3: It's kind of cool they sing in the shower.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: I really like it.
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  Speaker 3: such a good time. Matt, how you how are you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: It's always fun.
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