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TikTok Drama Explodes at Influencer Event · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, a showdown
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  Speaker 1: between content creators and an influencer event goes viral. Adele Petropoulos'
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  Speaker 1: iconic clapback at her ex-fiancé, the new owner of Ellie
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  Speaker 1: Watson's mansion is unveiled, and our influencer dump. But first, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Zukowski is continuing to win us over. If he's
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  Speaker 1: not sharing his family's gorgeous golden retriever on Instagram... He's
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  Speaker 1: sharing about his love for Christmas, which I think is
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  Speaker 1: actually a big green flag. I couldn't help but smile
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  Speaker 1: when I saw Matt's recent photo. So he shared some
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  Speaker 1: photos from his family's annual visit to the Christmas tree farm.
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  Speaker 1: They cut a tree down every year. And he is
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  Speaker 1: wearing the coolest Christmas vest in the photo.
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  Speaker 2: It says, fuck, I love Christmas. I need one of these.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what most impressed me about Matt was the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he has not just one Christmas jumper. He
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  Speaker 1: shared a series of photos on his Instagram stories from
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  Speaker 1: different years. And he's donning different Christmas outfits. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: shows that he truly does love Christmas. I mean, his
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  Speaker 1: 30th was also Christmas in July themed, which was a
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  Speaker 1: big clue. It's interesting to look back at the photos
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  Speaker 1: because he looks quite miserable in the 2024 one compared
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  Speaker 1: to this year's photo.
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  Speaker 2: And I do have.
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  Speaker 1: To give him credit. He's looking quite jacked. He's spoken
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  Speaker 1: a lot on his podcast about going to the gym.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's paying off. We're just talking about Christmas, Kate.
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  Speaker 1: I need to issue a PSA. People, can you actually
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  Speaker 1: fluff your Christmas tree. I keep seeing photos of people's
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  Speaker 1: trees popping up on Instagram. I mean, these are people
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  Speaker 1: I know as well as influencers and their trees are
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  Speaker 1: not properly fluffed. They would look a million times better
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  Speaker 1: if they just made the effort to do it. We've
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  Speaker 1: actually had a few requests for us to rate influencers trees.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I already do that privately with
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  Speaker 1: you guys. I did go to town a little bit
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  Speaker 1: on Steph Clare Smith's tree.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll save.
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  Speaker 1: That full analysis for another, you know, a dedicated segment,
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  Speaker 1: but I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Remember when Ashley Bynes had.
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  Speaker 1: That terrible toilet brush tree that looked so cheap?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you people have money. Like how have you
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  Speaker 2: not got a Balsam Hill tree or a real tree?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a new class thing where people with money
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  Speaker 1: actually have very average looking trees?
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  Speaker 2: But the decorations are crap as well.
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  Speaker 1: And what I don't get is why are there so
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  Speaker 1: few of them on the tree? Like, I mean, my
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  Speaker 1: partner pays me out. He says that I have too
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  Speaker 1: many on the tree. But I think when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Christmas, there's never enough. Do you know who's doing
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  Speaker 1: it right is Michael Finch. He put up a video
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  Speaker 1: of him decorating his Christmas tree. It looked amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And also.
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  Speaker 1: unsurprisingly, Molly Mae. She has two Christmas trees in her house,
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  Speaker 1: one in her living room, which is absolutely beautiful. It's
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  Speaker 1: covered in burgundy bows as well as baubles. And she's
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  Speaker 1: also got one in her bedroom, which is gold themed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, I give more props to Michael Finch
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  Speaker 1: because he clearly decorated his himself, whereas Molly Mae's just
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  Speaker 1: got someone in to do it. I mean, no shade,
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  Speaker 1: at least hers looks good. I think the influencers that
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  Speaker 1: have money should be doing that. If they can't decorate
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  Speaker 1: a tree nicely themselves, bring someone in to help. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Jade Tunchi made a really good point. She said that
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  Speaker 1: Australia just doesn't celebrate Christmas as well as other parts
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  Speaker 1: of the world. And I tend to agree. I keep
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  Speaker 1: seeing all of these Christmas vlogs in the UK and
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  Speaker 1: they have the most beautiful Christmas decorations in all of
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  Speaker 1: their shopping centres. I mean, in Adelaide, We had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of dead Christmas trees up in Rundle Mall and
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  Speaker 1: that was apparently the decorations. Oh, we've already touched on
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  Speaker 1: it in the show, but the Maya and David Jones
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  Speaker 1: decorations are very disappointing. They drag out the same crappy
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  Speaker 1: trees every year. We need to do better. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: only positive thing is McDonald's has finally got on board.
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  Speaker 1: So in the UK, they used to do all of
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  Speaker 1: these special Christmas meals every They're finally doing one in Australia,
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  Speaker 1: the Grinch meal. I saw that and I was taken
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  Speaker 1: aback how expensive it was, but you get a Grinch
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  Speaker 1: snow globe with it. I want to taste test it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we should do that for TikTok. You guys, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm at an event and Cindy is here, right? And
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  Speaker 1: she made these like... A showdown between two content creators
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  Speaker 1: and an influencer event has captivated TikTok. The confrontation, which
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  Speaker 1: has been compared to a real housewife's brawl, was captured
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  Speaker 1: by one of the women at the centre of it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to unpack this drama with you, Kate.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get us up to speed with who the
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  Speaker 1: main players are?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so firstly, you've got Elle Saligaris, who is.
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  Speaker 1: A 29-year-old Sydneysider, better known by her handle Eastern Suburbs Mum.
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  Speaker 1: So she has 56,000 followers on TikTok and 14,000 on Instagram. Ironically,
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  Speaker 1: Elle does these parodies of rich eastern suburbs mums while
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  Speaker 1: being one herself. So alongside her comedy content, she also
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  Speaker 1: shares her very affluent lifestyle. She also has a podcast
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  Speaker 1: where she shares behind the scenes stories from her life
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  Speaker 1: as well as interviews with other public figures. Then you've
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  Speaker 1: got Cindy Killen, who is better known by.
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  Speaker 2: Her handle RegardingCindy.
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  Speaker 1: She is a 29-year-old Canadian living in Sydney with 64,000
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  Speaker 1: TikTok followers and 49,500 Instagram followers. And she posts fashion
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  Speaker 1: content on TikTok and has her own brand called Resort
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  Speaker 1: and Rich. In terms of how these women met, they
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  Speaker 1: met at a work event several years ago through a
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  Speaker 1: mutual friend and fellow influencer, Isabella Gray. They clicked immediately
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  Speaker 1: and became friends. And as they are both content creators,
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  Speaker 1: they also worked alongside each other making content. Elle actually
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  Speaker 1: interviewed Cindy on her podcast last year and referred to
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  Speaker 1: her as the biggest girls girl. Now that all changed
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  Speaker 1: this time last year when the women had a huge
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  Speaker 1: bust up at a girls night out. So apparently it
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  Speaker 1: all started when Cindy suggested their next dinner catch up
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  Speaker 1: should be at a restaurant Elle was allegedly sexually assaulted at.
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  Speaker 1: So Elle had previously confided in her friends about this
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  Speaker 1: incident involving the owner of a restaurant. and the friends
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  Speaker 1: had all vowed that they were going to boycott it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Elle addressed the incident on her podcast, and while she
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  Speaker 1: didn't name Cindy, she said she literally just starts saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still going to go there. It was so outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this appeared to be the.
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  Speaker 1: Final straw to break the friendship. Yeah, and following the incident,
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  Speaker 1: Elle unfollowed Cindy from social media in addition to addressing
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  Speaker 1: the story on her podcast. She also shared a story
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  Speaker 1: time about it.
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  Speaker 2: On TikTok, again, not referencing Cindy by name.
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  Speaker 1: However, when people noticed the pair weren't following each other
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  Speaker 1: anymore on social media, they put two and two together. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this feud ended up being the talk of the town,
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  Speaker 1: and it was very unique in the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: captured the attention not only of those who are always online,
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  Speaker 1: but also the Sydney socialite scene.
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  Speaker 2: Now, despite this feud.
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  Speaker 1: Being the talk of the town... Somehow, both influencers ended
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  Speaker 1: up getting invited to a beverage company's influencer event this week.
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  Speaker 1: So a showdown was really inevitable and it did not disappoint. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I personally think that Elle has earned herself next year's
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  Speaker 1: TikTok creator of the year award by filming her point
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  Speaker 1: of view of the argument. Now, to give it justice,
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to throw to a clip. You guys,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm at an event and Cindy is here, right?
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  Speaker 1: And she made these like.
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  Speaker 1: Babe, send a fucking cease and desist. A cease and
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  Speaker 1: desist for what? Why don't you tell.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone what FPM means? Do you want to tell everyone
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  Speaker 2: what FPM means?
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  Speaker 1: Tell everyone what FPM means.
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  Speaker 3: Babe, maybe tell everyone what FBM is. And go back
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  Speaker 3: to working the streets, babe.
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  Speaker 2: Go back to.
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  Speaker 1: Working the streets because you clearly fucking need to. It
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  Speaker 1: is not funny to make fun of someone.
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  Speaker 2: For getting sexually assaulted.
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  Speaker 1: And then pull this shit at an influencer event. Are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding and have your boyfriend, your 5'7 boyfriend, yell
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  Speaker 1: at me? Like, for what?
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  Speaker 3: For what?
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I do want to point out that
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  Speaker 1: Elle's allegations against Cindy are unsubstantiated. Cindy has denied that
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  Speaker 1: she has worked as a sex worker. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very important that we make that clear. In terms of
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  Speaker 1: the acronym FPM, for anyone that was desperate like me
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  Speaker 1: to know what it means, Elle has confirmed it was
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  Speaker 1: a nickname Cindy gave to a mutual friend. So it
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  Speaker 1: means fat pig melt. Isn't that disgusting? Wow. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people online saying that these women should
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  Speaker 1: go on The Real Housewives of Sydney. And with these
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  Speaker 1: vile comments, they could actually fit in quite well. It
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  Speaker 1: was so reminiscent of a scene from that show. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was even juicier because obviously it's not being overproduced.
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  Speaker 1: And it's clear that there is real tension between these women.
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  Speaker 1: The funniest thing is Elle wasn't the only influencer to
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  Speaker 1: share vision from the fight. So Victoria Camp shared hilarious
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  Speaker 1: footage of her trying to pose for content while the
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  Speaker 1: dispute broke out behind her. And she captioned the video,
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  Speaker 1: point of view, you're taking videos at an influencer event
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  Speaker 1: and you get a front row seat on the TikTok drama.
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  Speaker 1: To give this clip justice, let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to do something she can't.
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  Speaker 3: This video has gone absolutely viral.
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  Speaker 1: At the time of recording. It's had 1.5 million views.
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  Speaker 1: It just reminded me of when you get a friend
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  Speaker 1: to film you or pretend to take a photo because
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  Speaker 1: you want to capture someone in the background or something happening.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it was actually genuine and I give
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  Speaker 1: it to Victoria. She still worked the camera, like the
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  Speaker 1: angles that she was giving and the poses that she
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  Speaker 1: was doing. First class. I mean, if it was me,
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  Speaker 1: I would have been like, stop, I need to watch
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  Speaker 1: what's going on because this would be the best people watching.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to know what was going on at
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  Speaker 1: the event in terms of Were the marketing managers scrambling? Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was anyone getting involved and breaking them apart?
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  Speaker 1: Because it got really nasty. I just want to know,
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  Speaker 1: did this beverage company purposely invite Cindy and Elle knowing
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  Speaker 1: about the feud and thinking, okay, this could get out
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  Speaker 1: of hand. It will get us a lot of attention
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  Speaker 1: because these days, in terms of the influencer world, we're
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  Speaker 1: at a point where all publicity is good publicity. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we are in the year of influencer best friends busting
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  Speaker 1: up and sharing all the dirty details online. We've spoken
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  Speaker 1: a lot about how that's how.
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  Speaker 2: Influencers remain relevant and.
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  Speaker 1: In the zeitgeist. So maybe this beverage company was like,
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  Speaker 1: invite them. I don't think they thought that they would
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  Speaker 1: go this nuts though, because Elle shared in the comment
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  Speaker 1: section of a TikTok about the incident that the brand
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  Speaker 1: was in damage control now and asking influencers to remove
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  Speaker 1: content from the fight. I don't think they had any
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  Speaker 1: idea of the feud between these girls. I think there
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  Speaker 1: must just be a huge list of Sydney influencers and
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  Speaker 1: they went, yeah, just invite them. So it's just terrible
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  Speaker 1: research on their behalf. Yeah, because no one would want
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  Speaker 1: this happening at their event.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yes, maybe a back.
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  Speaker 1: And forth, but this was a full-on disgusting fight. It
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  Speaker 1: really did take the tone of the event down, particularly
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  Speaker 1: because it looked like it was kind of trying to
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  Speaker 1: be quite a fancy upmarket event. Well, from having worked
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  Speaker 1: at some of those events in the past, they can
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  Speaker 1: be super awkward already. I mean, adding that kind of fight,
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  Speaker 1: would that have made it better because people actually had
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  Speaker 1: something to talk about? It would galvanize them together. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's something we can actually talk about. Now, what I
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  Speaker 1: love is the drama didn't stop there. So after holding
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  Speaker 1: onto receipts for almost a year, Elle unleashed following the event.
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  Speaker 1: So it turns out she had the perfect ammunition against
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  Speaker 1: her former friend, You see, upon realizing Elle had unfollowed
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  Speaker 1: her late last year, Cindy took to her Instagram story
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  Speaker 1: and posted a rant on her close friends about her
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  Speaker 1: former friend. Unbeknown to Cindy, though, a mutual influencer friend
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  Speaker 1: that the women have in common screen recorded it and
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  Speaker 1: sent it to Elle. Elle has later confirmed that that
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  Speaker 1: friend was Isabella Gray, the woman.
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  Speaker 2: Who introduced them.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the clip was actually obtained by the Daily Mail,
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  Speaker 1: who ran a subscriber-only article about it back in January. However,
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  Speaker 1: this week, Elle posted the screen recording to her TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: and it was explosive. So, in the vision, Cindy shared
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  Speaker 1: her side of the story, claiming Elle had blown the
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  Speaker 1: matter out of proportion. And she agreed that the initial
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  Speaker 1: argument at the girls' night was sparked after she said
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  Speaker 1: that she would still attend the restaurant in question, fully
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  Speaker 1: knowing her friend had been sexually assaulted there. She called Elle...
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  Speaker 1: a nut and said that she had lost the plot.
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  Speaker 1: She also went on to allege that Elle was starting
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  Speaker 1: online drama because she is so keen for content for
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  Speaker 1: her podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: She's trying to create a bit of drama online and
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  Speaker 4: obviously something for her podcast because she has nothing relevant
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  Speaker 4: in her life, anything going on. She's miserable in her marriage.
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  Speaker 4: Her kids are driving her nuts. She doesn't have a nanny.
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  Speaker 4: So she's taking it out on me and so that
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  Speaker 4: she has some sort of internet drama with people and
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  Speaker 4: basically commenting back on Reddit posts. Like you're just like
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  Speaker 4: one of them. You're just like FPM. Like you're just
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  Speaker 4: a typical troll.
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  Speaker 1: Are the Real Housewives of Sydney producers listening to this?
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  Speaker 2: Like this is already.
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  Speaker 1: A storyline, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I really hope so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, give us something good because the
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  Speaker 1: last series was a little bit disappointing. It really needed
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  Speaker 1: Athena X. That's what was missing in this series. They
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  Speaker 1: changed the cast. Now, in this rant, Cindy went on
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  Speaker 1: to say that the restaurant brow wasn't that dramatic and
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  Speaker 1: then said this. They're not going.
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  Speaker 4: To tell a grown ass woman where she can and
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  Speaker 4: cannot go. Like, I would never ask that of my friends.
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  Speaker 4: It's like me telling her you can't go to Tanuki
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  Speaker 4: every Friday because Jason goes there. Like, these girls are
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  Speaker 4: fucking delusional and they love to start drama and it's
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  Speaker 4: a big fucking awakening. And this is why the circle
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  Speaker 4: is very small these days.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting that she referenced, oh, I keep my circle small,
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  Speaker 1: yet it was one of the people on her close
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  Speaker 1: friends that sent.
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  Speaker 2: This story onto Elle. How awkward.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing was really difficult to watch,
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  Speaker 1: but the worst of it came towards the end when
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  Speaker 1: Cindy downplayed Elle's sexual assault claim.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: If you have a problem with something, call me. We're
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  Speaker 4: not going to agree on everything, Elle. Just because you
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  Speaker 4: were sexually assaulted doesn't mean anything. You know, like I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't making fun of the sexual assault, even though it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't really a sexual assault. The guy tried to kiss
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  Speaker 4: you and then you're lodging it six months later.
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  Speaker 1: Look, aside from all of this sort of petty drama,
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  Speaker 1: I do want to focus on Cindy's comments regarding Elle's
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault allegations because.
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  Speaker 2: It's very disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a part of the reason why a
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  Speaker 1: lot of women are afraid to report sexual assault also
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  Speaker 1: is In New South Wales, there is no statute of
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  Speaker 1: limitations on reporting sexual assault. So they can be prosecuted
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  Speaker 1: years or even decades after they occurred. So there's no
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  Speaker 1: issue with her reporting it six months later.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people should believe women when they say something
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  Speaker 1: has happened.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. It's also rather.
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  Speaker 1: Awkward because a big part of Cindy's brand online has
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  Speaker 1: been all about supporting women. I mean, we heard Elle
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  Speaker 1: say that she's a girl's girl. This is not a
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  Speaker 1: girl's girl. No, I don't know. Like if you're If
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  Speaker 1: you're saying you're a girl's girl and you're putting this
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  Speaker 1: type of content out online, like you need some damage control.
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  Speaker 1: Is it kind of like those people that say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: be nice on the Instagram profiles and they're like the
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  Speaker 1: biggest trolls?
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  Speaker 2: Like do we have to look out for people that
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  Speaker 2: say they're girls' girls?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like mother of three. Be kind. What I
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  Speaker 1: don't get is why would you ever post this online,
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  Speaker 1: particularly if you have a following?
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  Speaker 2: Like this is so damaging.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it that you posted it to
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  Speaker 1: your close friends, but this sort of stuff always seems
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  Speaker 1: to get leaked. get like, why would you post it
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  Speaker 1: to your close friends? Like, why don't you just ring
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  Speaker 1: up one of your friends and have a private conversation
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  Speaker 1: where you can have a bit of.
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  Speaker 2: A rant about it?
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  Speaker 1: I want to know how many people are on the
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  Speaker 1: close friends list as well. I mean, I mean, with
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  Speaker 1: my close friends list, I generally just add everyone I
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  Speaker 1: sort of know personally. It's like that UK soccer wag
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  Speaker 1: that caught out her friend who was selling stories about
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  Speaker 1: her to the media by changing her close friends list
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  Speaker 1: to only be that particular person.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: That is so clever.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be hilarious to set someone up like that?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And you're like, gotcha.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Now, Cindy is yet to comment further on the matter,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: but Elle has continued to stir.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: The pot and people are loving it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: So she shared a text message exchange between her and
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Cindy from back in September, 2024, as well as a
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: video of her enjoying the sunshine with a caption, me
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: after my therapist and I decide the other person is
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the problem. She's also been teasing that she will be
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: posting a story time unpacking the whole thing. I can't wait.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm waiting with bated breath.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our Friday influencer dump. And to kick
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: things off, Sunrise reporter Katie Brown has been slammed online
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: after weighing into the TikTok Awards racism row. So on
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Tuesday's show, we discussed how a number of black creators
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: had spoken out about the racism they experienced at the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: TikTok Awards. which included a photographer barring black creators from
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: entering the red carpet. Now this week, the Sunrise roving
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: reporter weighed in, in an attempt to provide the perspective
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of a journalist working the red carpet. In the video
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: shared to TikTok, Katie attempted to defend the media by
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: saying it wasn't up to the journalists on the red
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: carpet who they interviewed, but actually a network decision. She
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: went on to explain that when journalists are sent to
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: red carpet events like the TikTok Awards, They're provided with
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a list of attendees to interview by the bosses. Ah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: so it's the network that's racist, not the journalists that
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: work at it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. So it's the media as a whole.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: It's a systemic problem that we're dealing with. I mean,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: why would you ever defend this? I know. I mean, unsurprisingly,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: this hot take went down like a lead balloon and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the video has since been deleted. Of course, people managed
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to screen record it before that happened and have been
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: stitching it up. Yeah, a lot of people were saying
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that the way Katie spoke was really condescending.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: What did you think of it?
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just baffles me that someone who works
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: in the media that is media savvy would think it
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: would be a good idea to come out and defend
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the racism that we all saw for ourselves on the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: TikTok red carpet. I mean, Nayel literally has recorded receipts
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: of the disgusting way that she was treated.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: How could you defend that?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think the optics of a white blonde
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: woman telling black creators how they should perceive their treatment
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on a red carpet isn't a great look. Yeah, well,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: it just makes no sense because it's like, well, clearly
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it was a racist decision. But you're saying, oh, the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: racist decision wasn't made by the reporters. It was made
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: by the network. Like, how is that any better? It's
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: actually worse. Sorry, it's just the networks who don't give
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a fuck about black creators. US beauty influencer James Charles
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: has ruffled feathers after a trip to Bunnings. James is
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: currently in Australia promoting his makeup brand Painted and decided
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to film a TikTok taste test trying out the sausage
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: sizzle after being encouraged by friends and fans. This video
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: actually popped up in my For You page and I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyed it. My favorite bit would have to be
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: when James Charles tried to donate extra money to the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: charity and the volunteer didn't want to accept it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Now, James ended up ordering six sausages.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: And when it came to.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Choosing his toppings.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: This is where Aussie and US relations started to fracture
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: because he said he would like tomato sauce and mustard
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it really is
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: just a hot dog.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: It's not a sausage.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: This didn't go down well online. So people are actually
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: calling for James to be deported over insulting the budding sausage.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a bit of fun, but it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: has outraged Aussies. And we are correct. The Bunnings sausage
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: is not a hot dog because one, a hot dog
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: is boiled while a sausage is cooked on the barbecue. Yeah.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: There's a bit of flavor, a bit more flavor to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the sausage. I mean, this is coming from a vegetarian,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but I have had a sausage sizzle in the past. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He gave them a 10 out of 10 though. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: he didn't insult Aussies too much. And it actually made
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: me crave a Bunnings sausage because they sell some vegetarian
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: ones at some of the spots. Do they? I've always
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: wondered because, yeah, you feel like you're really missing out
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: when you're a veggo and you can't get around the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Bunnings sausage sizzle. sophie jane miller has been left stunned
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: after spotting justin and hayley bieber in a fish market
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in japan sophie and her husband sam are currently honeymooning
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in japan and were vlogging in the fish market when
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: justin and hayley bieber casually walked past them let's have
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a listen to their reaction Oh my God, that's them. Look,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: can you see? Not many people have noticed, I don't think.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: How many of you have noticed that?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I just looked and I was like, she looked at
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: me and I was like, that's Haley Bieber. And then
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I looked and I was like, that's Justin Bieber.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Hats off to Sophie and Sam for initially playing it cool.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They did secretly film them later. I mean, I say secretly,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: but I think every celebrity has enough awareness to know
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that everyone is pulling out their phones and recording them. Well,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you could tell that Sophie didn't want to do it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So her husband's like, look, just pretend you're vlogging and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: walk past the restaurant because Hayley and Justin were lining
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: up at the front and this restaurant had apparently already
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: closed for the day, but they were reopening it just
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: so they could come inside as you would.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Of course they would.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I can see why you would want to film it though,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: because it's almost like you wouldn't believe your own eyes,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: particularly when you're overseas. Like it would be so like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: maybe if you're in America and that's where they're from,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but it would be so strange to see these celebrities
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in a setting that you were completely not expecting to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: see them in? See, if I was them, I would
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have gone straight up to them. I would have acknowledged
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: their celebrity, but tried to have a normal conversation with them.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And if they didn't engage, I then probably would have
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: just resorted to filming them from afar. I would not
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: have the balls, particularly how I've seen Justin Bieber react. Oh,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that's a good point.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be like, no way.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I actually saw a video of someone else who
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was at the fish market and they completely filmed. They
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: had their camera out. They got such a good shot
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of Justin and Hailey going through the market. So Obviously,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: other people were just blatantly filming.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Of course they were. Everyone was filming.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Every person that I walked past would have had their
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: camera on. That's where you need those.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: What are those?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Those meta glasses which have video cameras in them. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to finish off today's influencer dump, I have to share
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: with you a very candid confession from Molly May, which
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: she made in her December 1st video. It was to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the point where I actually had to rewind to make
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: sure this is what she actually said. Let's have a listen.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: You know, when you're at school... and you're sat on
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a chair and when you used to wear tights, your
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: bum would get really itchy. I've got that same exact
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: sensation right now. My bum is so itchy. I don't
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: know if it's because I'm cold and I've just sat
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: on a heated seat or what, but whew.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm all for influencers being raw and honest, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I think this probably should have been cut out. Like
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I can already imagine what the UK tabloids are running
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: with as a headline for this story. Well, something to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: that effect. I loved it. I think this is why
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: people follow it. We've said it time and time again.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: She shows this glamorous side of her life. And then
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: next minute she's talking about her itchy bum. I love
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that vlogmas is back. I'm not delusional enough to think
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that the likes of Molly Mae are going to do
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it every day. I saw Sophie Jane Miller is actually
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: vlogging or trying to do vlogmas.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Hats off. That is a lot of work.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It is, especially because she's on holiday. Like she's on
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: her honeymoon and having to churn these out. I mean,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of, and also because she edits her own videos.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I know when Saffron Barker did it last year, she
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: had a friend who was editing them. You're saying honeymoon,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but it seems to be a brand trip with Jetstar.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: She actually already had a honeymoon. Well, honeymoon slash brand trip, whatever. Okay, so,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, she probably has to create content. She's probably
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: gone to them. Look, if you send me to Japan,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I'll do Vlogmas from there and we'll do a daily vlog.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: The devil works hard, but Lange works harder.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: As if 2025 couldn't get any worse. Greece is facing
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a shortage of feta tiri.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Adele Petropoulos confirmed the real reason behind
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: her shock decision to cancel her wedding just three months
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: out from the big day. On the evening of what
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: would have been her wedding date, the popular TikTokers celebrated
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: with a girls' night out and an iconic cake. Now,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Adele made sure this cake was front and centre of
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the content she shared from the night and with good reason.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So the cake had written across it in icing, cheaters
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: don't get cake. So Adele posted a video of her
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: taking a bite from the cake and she captioned the post,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: cancelled the wedding, kept the party. Thank God for my girls.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I love this because she said so much without actually
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: having to say anything at all. Yeah, it's not like
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: she's had to go on TikTok and give all the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: gory details. We know who the problem was. Well, back
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: in September when Adele announced the breakup, she said she
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be going into the But she did reveal that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: something happened that didn't align with her principles. So a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: lot of people came to the conclusion it must have
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: been cheating and there were quite a lot of signs
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that pointed to it. So there was a general consensus
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that it must have been cheating and there were quite
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of signs that pointed to it. One of
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the major signs was the fact that Adele and her
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: fiance Anthony were actually overseas in Europe traveling together and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she literally fled Europe and announced the news when she
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: got home. There was also that boys trip for a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Bucks party to Las Vegas that Anthony went on. At
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the time, Adele said that he was in the doghouse
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: because he messaged her the day before he was coming
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: home to tell her that he had bought her a gift.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And at the time, she said the bougier the gift,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the worse he had done. And she actually unboxed the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: gift on her TikTok. And it was a designer handbag.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So she knew something bad had happened. I think it's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a dumpable offense to even say that you want to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have your bucks in Las Vegas. Like, does anything good
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: come out of that? Well, I think it was actually
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a friend's bucks in Las Vegas. But I mean, I mean,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that's even worse.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to go for my mate.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was also that blue eyed Kayla Jade video.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So for those not familiar with Kayla, she is a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: popular TikToker who shares her life as a sex worker.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And she shared a video two days before Adele made
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: her announcement saying a guy called Anthony messaged her saying
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: he's currently in Europe for his bucks and would show
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: her around if she's interested.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the optics aren't great for Anthony, are they?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I wonder now that she's shared this cake, if she
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: will go into further details on TikTok, especially because the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: reaction from her followers has been so positive and everyone's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: been saying, we want to know more. Yeah, I feel
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: like this could be the tip of the iceberg and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear more.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Bob, that is so bad.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That does not look anything like me. Isabel Mathers is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the new owner of Ellie Watson's much-loved Gold Coast Hinterland Mansion.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: The estate was so popular, it became the nation's most
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: viewed property heading into its auction, according to realestate.com.au. I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: can see why. So the popular lifestyle influencer purchased the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: property back in 2021 and documented the extensive renovations. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Ellie's audience were very quick to fall in love with
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the aesthetically pleasing home. And they were shocked when she
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: put it up for auction. You know, a home is
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: fancy when it has a name.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So it's called the Valet Casa.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Does your home have a name, Amy?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't officially have a name, but we've got an
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: old bungalow. So we were actually tempted to have a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: little sign made with a name. But we spoke about
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that three years ago. Nothing's been done. I love the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: idea because our grandparents' house was called Swindabee. It was
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the place that they met. And I was like, oh, Reese,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we should do the same thing. But then I'm like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: titanium security arena doesn't have quite the same ring that's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: where we met at work maybe in cursive it might
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: look nice though it might fit the vibe i don't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: think so i mean maybe titanium could pay naming rights
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to our house i don't know i don't think they'd
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: want to now just back to ellie watson's house and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: despite the huge interest in the property it actually got
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: passed in at auction so post-auction negotiations saw isabel and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: her partner harry become the new owners now it's unclear
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: how much they actually paid for the property But it
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: did get passed in with a top bid of $ 5. 9 million.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: So we can all use our imaginations. Well, it's pretty
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: interesting because Isabel and Ellie both requested that the price
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: remained confidential because they didn't want to be flashy. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: remember when we bought our house, I didn't even realize
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: that was an option. And I'd send everyone the link
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and then it just popped up how much we paid.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's sort of this awkward thing. Well, I mean, you
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: weren't paying $ 6 million for your house. Sadly not, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it was purchased at a time when it was like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the peak of house prices and it felt like a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: disgusting amount to pay for what?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, this is probably going to make you feel sick, Amy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Guess what the Watsons paid for the house back in 2020?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Mind you, they did extensive renovations on it. Look, I'd
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: hate to think, I'm guessing like what, like a million
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: dollars or something? They paid $ 1. 48 million. I wonder if
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley and Lockie Waugh are looking on thinking, God,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: if we can just stop arguing and finish this house renovations,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: we can make a lot of money off it. Well,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense that it's an influencer that's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: purchased it. Maybe they're the only people with that much
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: cash and that desire to have such an aesthetically pleasing home.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize she was so rich. I mean, yes,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: she's an influencer. But again, I think the pay packets.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Of influencers have kind of gone down over the last
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: couple of years considering how saturated the market is. I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: guessing she gets paid a lot as an international model.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: She also is the creative partner at Rachel Dillon's activewear company, CSB.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But again, it's like, really?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Are you making that much money?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because normally if you're an influencer or model and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you have that much money, you have a business connected.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Like for example, Steph Clare Smith and Laura Henshaw with Kik,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that's where they make the majority of their money.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, you know, Isabel Mathis doesn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: have her own business. So I didn't think she would
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have that much of an income, but she clearly does.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: In terms of a property portfolio, she also owns a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: beachfront apartment that she purchased for $ 2. 3 million, which she
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: has retained. It's going to be really weird for Ellie
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Watson to see her old home appearing in Isabel Mathur's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: content now. I wonder if there's an element of it
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: being quite nice.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Like you can sort of check in. You can never
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: have enough hats, gloves and shoes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our Friday debrief. And a quick one's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a good one. I am going to recommend... Christmas.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Tree hooks for your decorations.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Random. Sounds silly, but what you need to do is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: cut off all of those ugly strings from your baubles
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and get these Christmas tree hooks. You get them from Target,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Big W, they're like $ 2 a packet and they make
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: your Christmas tree look so much better. We actually went
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to our parents' house yesterday to put up their Christmas tree.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: And Sophie's like, are you sure that we should be
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: cutting these strings off?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: She was so impressed that when she got home.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: She's like, maybe I should redo my whole tree. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: her tree looks incredible.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: She double wraps the string around the branch or something, but.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You can still see it. That's the thing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Like the great thing with these hooks is they blend
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: into the greenery and you can actually maneuver the ornament,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the way you want it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It looks so good.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Our best friend was saying that she wants us to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: bring back the Christmas tree competition, like who has the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: best one between us. I'm keen for that. Yeah. I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit nervous though, because if we do a
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  Speaker 1: segment where we're rating influencers trees, I think people might
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  Speaker 1: go ham on our own trees, but I'm pretty confident that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident. The thing is ours are quite similar
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  Speaker 1: because we have the same Balsam Hill tree and the
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  Speaker 1: same sort of color theme. So like ours are both
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  Speaker 1: red and gold. We're going to leave it up to
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  Speaker 1: the audience. We have to leave it up to the audience.
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  Speaker 1: Let us know if you want to bring that back.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've just kind of ruined what I am
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  Speaker 1: about to suggest, but maybe we don't say whose tree
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  Speaker 1: is who. I love all this Christmas tree advice. We're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: giving fluff your tree, use ornament hooks. Well, I've got
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  Speaker 1: a recommendation for everyone and it's a book by Jennifer Saunders.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And I think it was released back in 2015, but
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I've just listened to it on Audible and it is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: so funny. I just have a thing where I need
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to listen to the authors narrating. Like for example, for
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Prince Harry's book, I listened to him. There's something that
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  Speaker 1: just makes the book so much better. And it's got
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  Speaker 1: me now watching old episodes of Ab Fab and I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: have forgotten how hilarious they are. Kate, you need to
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  Speaker 1: watch it. You've been quoting Ab Fab like it's going
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  Speaker 1: out of fashion. It happens probably once every two years. No,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I probably haven't watched it for
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like seven years properly. And I'm finding myself laughing out
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  Speaker 1: loud legitimately. Well, that is where we're going to leave
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