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Cardinals Manager Oli Marmol & Bench Coach Daniel Descalso join FT + Guardans checkup w/Cody Allen · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: H m hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, it said managers meeting. It didn't say
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  Speaker 3: professional baker meeting. Okay, you can't be a prep your camera.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see you. Who's the future manager?
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  Speaker 4: Let me see it? Where?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? John Jay John Jay when he managed the Miami Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 3: Uh but seriously, well, first of all, I text Allie
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  Speaker 3: late and asked him to join us today. Alie Marmel,
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  Speaker 3: manager of the Cardinals, Daniels Scouse. What are what's your title?
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  Speaker 4: Still still the bench coach?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Allie's bitch. Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, that's incredible. It just never ends, never ends.
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  Speaker 2: Agent, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's I'm glad the bus made it safely. I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad that you guys didn't get a flat tire. You
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  Speaker 3: know that that Missouri what is it? I seventy rivalry
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  Speaker 3: used to be a big deal. It kind of still is.
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  Speaker 3: Not Cups Cardinals, but it's closed, right. So what's Kansas
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  Speaker 3: City like? Is it like a thousand degrees there today?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's actually all right. It's a little rainy, but
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  Speaker 1: weather's the weather's okay, hasn't gotten too too crazy hot yet?
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  Speaker 3: Man, Okay, how many bagels have you eaten of Discalso's?
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  Speaker 3: Would you dare try me? He won't send me any
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  Speaker 3: so I don't know because people that don't know Discalso
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  Speaker 3: is a what is it called doe scals or something else?
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  Speaker 5: Doe Come on, you know it?
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  Speaker 2: So you make you make bagels for everybody? How does
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  Speaker 2: this take?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, they're really good. So usually day games, he brings
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  Speaker 1: it in for the club and they're they're legit, and
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  Speaker 1: then I take them home as well. But they are
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I can only play so much golf
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  Speaker 6: during the season, right, Like, there's weather in the Midwest
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  Speaker 6: rain sometimes, so I need a pick another hobby.
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  Speaker 5: So I started baking.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wow, what kind of do you do spreads or
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  Speaker 2: do you just do straight bagels? You have flavor bagels.
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  Speaker 6: The guys in the guys in the kitchen they hook
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  Speaker 6: up the smoked salmon and put all that stuff out
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  Speaker 6: for anyone who wants that. And yeah, so bring them
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  Speaker 6: in on day games. You guys got some good feedback.
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  Speaker 6: We've got a few different flavors and uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: all right, so we go. We got your traditional plane
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  Speaker 6: a little everything. I went chocolate chip last time, and
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  Speaker 6: then halopeno cheddar seems to be a clubhouse favorite. We
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  Speaker 6: go halapenos and cheddar on top and bottom, leave the
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  Speaker 6: seeds in the halopenio.
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  Speaker 5: So it's got a little bit of kick.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you guys must have a young team,
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  Speaker 7: because all the teams have had old guys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going gluten free. I can't have any
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  Speaker 4: of Daniel's bagels. Do you have any gluten free ones?
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't do gluten free. If you want my bagels,
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  Speaker 5: you gotta be gluten friendly.
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  Speaker 3: It's important water. Hold on, christ, I know we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna get to baseball. Isn't the water very important though?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Because like now, I say, New York water is better
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  Speaker 3: for bagels, like Philly water is better for a cheese
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  Speaker 3: steak for some reason.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, people say that the water in New York helps
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  Speaker 6: make the bagels, you know, the best in the in
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  Speaker 6: the in the country. Now, we were just in New
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  Speaker 6: York and I didn't bring any water back with me.
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  Speaker 6: But we go play the Yankees next time, So I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to bring like a five gallon jug, smuggle some
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  Speaker 6: water back.
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  Speaker 5: And see it makes a difference.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think you're get in trouble. You
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  Speaker 4: can't bring New York water across state lines. I think
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  Speaker 4: there's something that's gotta be against some law.
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  Speaker 2: Asked John Jay about breaking laws.
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  Speaker 5: Oh god, I don't know anything about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, that talks, right, We're gonna talk. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna actually talk about baseball surprisingly on this show. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: the Cardinals are doing really well, by the way, which
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  Speaker 3: I'm I I'm surprised. I think Krats would be moderately surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Is it all of Daniel's calls to you behind the scenes, Ali,
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  Speaker 3: or is this your doing?
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  Speaker 1: It's the players doing. Man, they're doing a nice job.
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  Speaker 1: It's a young group. And what I'll say, what I
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  Speaker 1: like about what's going on right now with our club
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  Speaker 1: is they're on the same boat trying to prove that
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  Speaker 1: they are big leaders, and they play every single pitch
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  Speaker 1: extremely hard. They're getting after it and every day is
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  Speaker 1: awesome to watch.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 1: They're competing well, but they're playing the game the right way.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing the game hard and it's been fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a group that likes to learn. They're hungry
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  Speaker 1: for what's next. And our staff loves teaching, So it's
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  Speaker 1: a good combo.
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  Speaker 7: Man, all right, Well, Ali's gonna give us the same
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  Speaker 7: manager answer.
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  Speaker 4: So, Daniel, did they not play the game hard? Last
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  Speaker 4: year you were there?
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  Speaker 7: Did they not play It's a lot of the same guys,
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  Speaker 7: but you're telling me this year they're playing the game
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  Speaker 7: hard the right way or have you? You guys put
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  Speaker 7: them in a different spot to be able to play
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  Speaker 7: the game hard at a consistent spot in the lineup,
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  Speaker 7: in a consistent spot on defense.
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  Speaker 4: This year too.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think there's a lot of guys
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  Speaker 5: that have things to prove.
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  Speaker 4: You had some guys that had.
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  Speaker 6: Some opportunities, maybe didn't perform the best with those opportunities.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, going into this year, I think you
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  Speaker 6: had some guys with a chip on their shoulder. They
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  Speaker 6: were going to get, you know, an opportunity to play,
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  Speaker 6: run out there every day and show what they can do.
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  Speaker 6: And there's was not a lot of expectations from the
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  Speaker 6: outside outside of this clubhouse. And you've seen some early
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  Speaker 6: success and guys when you're when you're trying to establish
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  Speaker 6: ourselves as a big leaguer as a young player, and
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  Speaker 6: you have some of that early success in the season,
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  Speaker 6: you start to believe and you can kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 6: build some momentum. I think we've seen our guys really
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  Speaker 6: capitalize on that early success and believe they can go
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  Speaker 6: out there and not only compete, but go out there
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. See kee Wow, you have the manager speak
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  Speaker 2: down so nicely.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to know whose decision was it to
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  Speaker 3: play Jordan Walker every day and teach them how to
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  Speaker 3: hit all of a sudden. I mean, which one of
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  Speaker 3: really what I.
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  Speaker 2: Want to know.
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  Speaker 1: Zero credit, man, He's that's been a nice surprise, and
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  Speaker 1: anyone that said they saw this version of him come
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  Speaker 1: in his line, because it's been special. And the early
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  Speaker 1: success to your point, d and him doubling down on
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  Speaker 1: the work that's taken place. Like if you look at
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  Speaker 1: his spring training, it wasn't an impressive spring training, and
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  Speaker 1: the last week or so they took a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a break of four days of no games and
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  Speaker 1: then got back into games and he had a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better at bats, and then the season starts and
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  Speaker 1: he goes off and then he just started doubling down
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  Speaker 1: on the work that was going on with Brownie and
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  Speaker 1: Casey NBA down in the cage, and that early success
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  Speaker 1: just kind of gave him confidence and he's continued to go.
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  Speaker 1: But what I like most about Jordan is when he
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  Speaker 1: went through that little slump early, that was a nice
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  Speaker 1: test to see is this something that's sustainable or was
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  Speaker 1: this just a little hot flash. And he has something
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  Speaker 1: that he's anchored to that he can point back to
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  Speaker 1: and get back on tracks. So we've seen it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times now where he kind of dips down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in baseball's baseball, but then he gets
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  Speaker 1: right back on track and starts hitting. So I love
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  Speaker 1: where he's at physically. I like where he's at from
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  Speaker 1: a mind standpoint, it's been really good.
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  Speaker 7: Who benefits more from some of the veterans being gone.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not saying anything against the veterans. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 7: they were causing anything to be brought down, But who
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  Speaker 7: benefits more? You guys as a coaching staff or the
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  Speaker 7: young players who it's like, hey, you know what this
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  Speaker 7: is your team?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 7: I get it knowing and I was gone. Gray's gone,
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  Speaker 7: those guys are gone, Contrares is gone. Who's benefiting more.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, I think it's more the opportunity than anything. It's
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  Speaker 1: going into a season and the young guys knowing like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have some run here, and even if things
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  Speaker 1: don't go well early, we're going to continue to give
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  Speaker 1: you an opportunity to show that you're capable of staying
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  Speaker 1: up here at the big league level. So I think
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  Speaker 1: it's more that mentality than anything. Because if you think
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  Speaker 1: about our staff, I mean year one for me as
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  Speaker 1: a manager in twenty two, like had Albert had Yatiuano,
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  Speaker 1: Goldie Nado is a veteran group, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: the players benefit from just knowing that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a little bit more run based on the type
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  Speaker 1: of year and how we're looking at twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: from an evaluation standpoint.
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  Speaker 6: I think also as a as a young player, when
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  Speaker 6: you when you have veterans in the in the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 6: you tend to kind of defer to them and look
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  Speaker 6: to them, and you know, speaking in clubhouse meetings and
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  Speaker 6: hitters meetings and and kind of answering the questions after
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  Speaker 6: the game, and the veterans are the identity of your team.
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  Speaker 6: And now you're in spring training and you're a young
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  Speaker 6: guy and you look around you don't really have those
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  Speaker 6: same veterans. You're forced to kind of take ownership of
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  Speaker 6: what's going on, take ownership of those meetings. And I
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  Speaker 6: think we've had we've had some young those young guys
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  Speaker 6: really embrace that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'll add to that, like, you sit in our
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  Speaker 1: Hitters meeting right now, and at the end of every
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  Speaker 1: Hitters meeting, every guy that's in the lineup will say
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  Speaker 1: something based on how they're approaching that day, how they're
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  Speaker 1: approaching that starting pitcher. And that's not normal in the
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  Speaker 1: years that I've been up here to have that many
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  Speaker 1: guys speak into Hitters meeting and own it. That's been
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch as well.
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  Speaker 4: I love that. I love to hear that.
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  Speaker 7: I love it when you hear about guys that are
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  Speaker 7: having all star years, that are young and now able
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  Speaker 7: to take control of the team and be that next future.
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  Speaker 7: But now there's expectations. I think your playoff odds were
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  Speaker 7: like nine percent and now they're fifty percent. Expectations. Have
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  Speaker 7: they reached the clubhouse yet? Have you seen guys that
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  Speaker 7: are like, hey, you know what, well, let's not plan anything.
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  Speaker 4: For October yet? Or how do you speak into that
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  Speaker 4: as coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I think you got to keep the focus where
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  Speaker 1: it's been from the beginning, like head down, let's continue
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  Speaker 1: to get better, and we talk about it internally a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be better in madeen, we're in April, better in
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  Speaker 1: June than May. And if you lose focus of that
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  Speaker 1: and start trying to just hold on to what you've
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  Speaker 1: done up to this point, I think that's when you
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  Speaker 1: start you start to lose it a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: think we just stay focused on getting these guys better
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  Speaker 1: and staying just pedal down, and I think our group
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  Speaker 1: will respond really well to that. But I don't like
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  Speaker 1: thinking in those terms as far as like, man, let's
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  Speaker 1: hold on to what we've done and now we have expectations.
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  Speaker 1: I think that gets you sideways.
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  Speaker 2: True, true, all right, what have you guys done in
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  Speaker 2: the pitching?
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  Speaker 3: Dustin May was incredible as last time out you're starting
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  Speaker 3: and your bullpend guys have been really good this year.
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  Speaker 2: What has changed about the pitching?
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything changed about a pitching philosophy or anything
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  Speaker 3: pitching With the new leadership, with Heine Bloom coming.
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  Speaker 2: In, I'll say.
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  Speaker 1: The addition to both sides on the hitting side and
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  Speaker 1: the pitching side. We've added a staff member in Casey
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  Speaker 1: on the hitting side and added K. D. Driscoll on
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  Speaker 1: the pitching side, and man, man power is real, Like
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  Speaker 1: the more eyeballs on our guys and the more you
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  Speaker 1: get to take the information and make it simple and
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  Speaker 1: actionable for our guys, it's helpful. But on the pitching side,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Dusty and that group have done a
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  Speaker 1: really nice job getting the most out of out of
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  Speaker 1: what we have our rotation. If you look at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the year where we were slotted to be
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  Speaker 1: from a rotation standpoint, where they're at today.
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  Speaker 8: Man, there's there's a.
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  Speaker 1: Big gap there, And so I give the players a
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  Speaker 1: ton of credit for going out there and executing, but
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  Speaker 1: the staff has done a nice job of giving them
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  Speaker 1: the resources to have that success. So the pen as well.
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  Speaker 1: Man to see O'Brien in that ninth inning role getting
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  Speaker 1: them from Seattle and the growth that we've seen out
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  Speaker 1: of this dude from not only physical but from a
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  Speaker 1: mental standpoint of believing in his stuff and going out
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  Speaker 1: there and dealing with the pressure of getting the last
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: three outs of the game. That's been cool. You got
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: the Grenello trade for Soriano and what we've been able
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  Speaker 1: to get out of him. That's been amazing to see.
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  Speaker 1: So guys just stepping up and it's different guys are
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  Speaker 1: continuing to do that. But that's the fun part about
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  Speaker 1: this type of season.
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  Speaker 7: Daniel, you can have a different answer than Ali, But
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  Speaker 7: who has blown away? I just want to make sure
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  Speaker 7: you know that because he's not going to fire you. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: he can't. He's only firing you if he's about to
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  Speaker 7: get fired. But who has blown you? Guys away? As
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  Speaker 7: coaches that you guys were like, I didn't know it
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  Speaker 7: was gonna be like that. I didn't know this guy
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  Speaker 7: was gonna be that way.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go ahead and say, you know, jj Weatherold
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  Speaker 6: has been like a steady presence in that lineup every day,
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  Speaker 6: Like when you are a top prospect, obviously there's high expectations,
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  Speaker 6: but until you get to the big leagues and experience
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  Speaker 6: and play every day, like, you don't know what you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna get out of these guys. And so it's nice
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  Speaker 6: to be around him in spring training and as we're
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  Speaker 6: talking lineup construction, he really kind of was the best
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  Speaker 6: fit for the top of the order for us.
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  Speaker 5: And then again, you don't know how how a rookie is.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna handle that job of being pencil into the leadoff
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  Speaker 6: spot right out of the gate. But you know, this
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  Speaker 6: guy just you can't tell if he's over four or four.
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  Speaker 6: For his last four he's played great defense, where that
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  Speaker 6: was kind of maybe a little.
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  Speaker 5: Question mark for us. We weren't sure how he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: handle second base, and he's been outstanding. So just just to.
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  Speaker 6: Watch him as a rookie just kind of show up
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  Speaker 6: every day and just know that he belongs and set
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  Speaker 6: the tone for us at the top has been has
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  Speaker 6: been impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my Rookie of the Year pick. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, I'm just saying he was my Rookie of
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  Speaker 3: the Year pick.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's he's doing it. He's doing it. Just stay
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  Speaker 2: away from scouts about age.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, not not only can you talk, Not only can
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  Speaker 6: you talk, you're a good scout too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, You're right.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's why I'm on television because I can scout
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  Speaker 3: and I can talk.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's amazing, all right, is there?
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  Speaker 3: You guys have been both then in the Cardinals, organization
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  Speaker 3: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: What's the Cardinal's way.
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  Speaker 5: I think that people overblow the cardinal weight, right. But
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: from the from the get go, when you get.
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  Speaker 6: Into our organization, it was always about the little things, right,
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  Speaker 6: the things that maybe don't show up in the box score,
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  Speaker 6: the attention to detail, the importance of a routine, and
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  Speaker 6: and the importance of showing up with the mindset to
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  Speaker 6: go kick someone's ass every night, and we're gonna do
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  Speaker 6: all the little things that.
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  Speaker 5: It takes to do that, and just.
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  Speaker 4: Hammering that over and over.
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  Speaker 6: From the time you get into the organization, get into
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  Speaker 6: the big leagues, expectation is to do the same thing,
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: go out and win.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: That's her, that's her. Uh. Josh Obias hid for homers?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Should we expect him next week in the in Cardinals.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: I think you can hit four homers in like an automatic
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: promotion to the big leagues.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: I heard that's a rule.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's got twenty three homers. Are anybody goes need?
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, you hit four homers, you got to go
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: somewhere else, right, true?
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: True, yes, that's true, true, all right? Before we let
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: you go we have one fan question. It's from Katie
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: from LA. She wants to know who gets stressed first,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: who gets dressed first, and who chooses the matching outfit first.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Does Alli get dressed Daniel have to match it or
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: does Daniel get first to say, oh, you have to
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: wear this?
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: In today's game, we talk about alignment from the top,
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: from the front office all the way down.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: To the minor leagues, and alignment can.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Also include a tire that's disgusting.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: You're an idiot choosing Yeah, be your own person.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: He isn't.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, how long until we get a
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: question about us matching because that was just you.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: That's how you know we're on the same page.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: You walked in and yeah, damn it.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least mean at least at least Katie from
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: l A got her answer.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, at least she got her Kadi from LA.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: But before let's you go all you think it kicked
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: out the other night for the first time, was descalso
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: pushing you out there, go get ejected. I can get
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: he was like a little scrappy dude, Go go get him.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: At least why I can manage for seven innings.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: There's been a couple of times we've gone out at
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the same time. I think twice. Well we've got ejected
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on the same exact play, but I've been most improved.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I mean June, middle of June for my first injection.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: It's legit, so I'm proud. Yeah, no one had that
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: one definite.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: You're definitely from Doctor Pepper High School. You're promoting yourself.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: You know why you guys get injected together because you
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: guys were the same outfits and the same beer in
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the same gray. So the dumpires like both of you
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: just go, just go together.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know which one, but you both got to go.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: What is young is yes, thank you, guys. We really
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: do appreciate y'all joining us. Tell John enjoy the player's
• 17:15
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• 17:17
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  Speaker 9: Allen on the show former Closer talking to Little Guardians
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: right now, Cody.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Great to have you on, man, Hold on, hold on, Cody.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Where are you right now?
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: I'm in a parking lot of a love As station.
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: I thought I was going to make it home and
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: I didn't.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Where are you living these days?
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: I am in Argyle, Texas.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, because these are from Orlando. I was like, why
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: is he not? I am here.
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: I used to run into a j all the time
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: in Olive Garden.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Three breadsticks and salad. I love all of the oh Man,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: nothing makes a turn like the Olive Garden. Wait till
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: what happened?
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: We lost you? We lost you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You're out of u.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: No, No, you're here like we we as a state
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: lost Cody Allen.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I moved out here.
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: I moved out here twelve years ago. So I've been
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: here for a little while. I found a good group
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: guys trained with, and just kind of, you know, a
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: new home for a little while.
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: All Right, there you go.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's talk audience, shall we?
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean they're behind the White Sox.
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: They're behind the White Sox. And also they'd been playing well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: exceeding expectations, I would say, as usual, but they've taken
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: quite a hit the last few days, So can you
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: run through how they're going to weather the storm and
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: if you want to relate it to anything trade wise,
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: I know that's not usually their game to go big,
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: but no, they're an opening.
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: I think there is an opening. I definitely think there
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: is an opening. I think the Central is very similar
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: to the West right.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Now in the American League.
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: Of that, I mean, it's it's wide open for some
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: of these clubs. I think the White Sox have surprised.
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: I think there's some teams that aren't playing well. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: you know, losing Joseermrez with a hamdmate bone, You've got
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: Chase the Later who's a little bit banged up, so
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: they're battles some injuries. Gaviarius is back, so it'll be
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: interesting to see how he bounces back. But obviously for
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: Cleveland it's always about can they score? Can they score?
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: Can they score? And I think there are some guys
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: I like Taylor Ward out there. There's even some talk
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: about maybe a Joe Adell. I think he fits because
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: he's got club control. They have the prospect capital too.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: They've got some guys that you know, Cleveland always drafts well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: they develop well. I think if you're another organization, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: covet probably what Cleveland is burying right now in double A,
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: And so it'll be interesting to see kind of the
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: position they put themselves in over the next weeks heading
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: into the deadline.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Cody, I know they need to score runs, but let's talk.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's been about pitching for about the last ten years, right, Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: So Chircni pitched great yesterday. Gavin Williams is pitching tonight,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: bab the bullpen with Kate Smith. How the heck do
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they develop these pitchers so well and they've had such
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a hard time with position players.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: You know, I think it is.
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: It's very interesting because you know, Ruben Diebla was a
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: big part of that player development program there for a
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: long time.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: He's now in San Diego.
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: But obviously, these guys, they put a ton of their
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: available resources, whether it be capital or or time into
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: developing out a system that just develops these strike throwers
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: and these guys who have great stuff. But if you
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: look at their rotation as a whole, and the guys
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: they have up there outside of Kate's Smith and Gavin Williams,
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: it's not like they're smothering you with just raw ability. Man,
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: these guys have something unique about them, whether it be
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: a Parker messag change up or a Joey Cantillo kind
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: of upshoot fastball. You know, these guys have something, They
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: have an identity. They throw a lot of strikes, they
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: don't beat themselves. And the one thing too is, man,
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: they just got a lot of death. They've always just
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: got a volume of arms that they can just smother
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: you with.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But they're not afraid to go to them.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: Do you think of that is part of the superpower
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: because it used to be it was always starting pitchers
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: and then you broke that mold that the Guardians were
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: like the Indians at the time were like, Okay, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: guess we'll call Cody Allen up before something happens to them.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: And then you know, now it's back to do them both.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: But they have a runway they're allowed to call these
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: guys up. Isn't that the superpower?
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: I think too?
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: And I think some of the some of the metrics
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: we have out there now, or the ability to obtain
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: data and look at it objectively, is you you might
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: be able to look at a guy in double A
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: and be like, hey, dude, this guy has just as
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: good as stuff as pretty much every other guy in
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: the big leagues. Let's not be afraid of challenging this
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: guy and seeing what he's made of, especially if we
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: have a need. So I think the things that they value,
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: like throwing strikes, getting guys out, you know, the I
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: don't think they chase Velo as much of as much
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: as maybe some other organizations. They look at a lot
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: of pitch characteristics, just the ability to throw strikes, control counts,
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: and get outs. You know, if that's the name of
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: the game, right, we can look at all the other
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: metrics that are out there, but the name of the
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: game is to get people out at a high rate
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: and score more runs than the other team.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Cody, over your right shoulder, there's an arm I see.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Is that your son or daughter?
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's back there. He's playing some.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: What did you I was gonna say, what did you
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: have to bribe him to not move and not talking?
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Nintendo switch MLB twenty five right now?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, because I just see you could just barely see
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: like his arm sticking out.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: I think it just he's probably hit a dinger or
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: something like that. So he's doing a little quiet celebration.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So if he had a dinger, he'd be jumping up
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and down.
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: Let's not last celebration because he knows he's on TV.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, I told five times.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: You know, God, I want to talk about Parker Messik
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: for a minute. Uh yeah, you mentioned kind of his
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: his stuff. He doesn't overpower you. He's kind of like
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: you're watch him pitch and he's like ninety one, ninety
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: two and change up and you know it doesn't look
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: like you're the guy that's gonna but this dude has
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: turned into a dude?
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Is that what this is that you kind of mentioned
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Does Cleveland kind of look for guys that are a
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: little bit unique and then try to build off that
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: uniqueness because you mentioned you mentioned uh Cantilla. You know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Gavin Williams is the six foot ac out, the big
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: curveball in the high fastball. Do they try to find
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: something and then accentuate that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: I think what Cleveland does a really good job is
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: they they identify talent very well, right, but they identify
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: you know, what does this guy do that is really
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: unique to this guy? Or what is this guy's identity
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: and the one thing, you know, I think you guys
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: know this, as you know Kratzy and Aja, you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: Guys know this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: But a good change up only works if the guy
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: has a lot of conviction behind it, right like you
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: kind of have to sell it. And so I don't
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: think Parker's change up plays as well if he doesn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: have that like bulldog mentality, because he, I mean, is
• 25:19
  Speaker 10: a strike thrower. He's fast paced, he's coming after you
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: with ninety two, ninety four, maybe a little bit of cut.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: But every time he throws that change up, which does
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: have unreal action, and it's got good you know, front
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: to back, you know, speed separation. But if he's not
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: smothering you with fastballs where it's like you just look
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: up after five seconds you're O two or and the
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: guy's blowing you up inside, the change up doesn't work
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: like that, right Like, you look at all the guys
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: with great changeups, like a Cole Hammils or you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: Tom Glavin.
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: Or you know.
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: So I mean, I know, I'm going back, but they
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: have to be kind of like that bulldog type, throw
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: a ton of strikes and then just pull the string
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: on you.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: And that's what he does. I think that makes him effective.
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: If he didn't throw as many strikes as he did
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: with his fastball, his change up would be it wouldn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: be as elite as it is.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: We talked about the lineup of the injuries and the
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: fact that everybody that's leading any category is hurt right now.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: They still have to figure out ways to win this rotation,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: this rotation if it were to sustain an injury, similar
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: to Jose Ramirez, who's the Jose Ramirez of this rotation,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: that if he goes out, that is a big blow.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: I think it's got to be Gavin, you know. I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: Parker's doing really, really well. But Gavin's the guy that
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: more often than not is lining up against the other guy,
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: right you know, he was, you know, he was the
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: guy that he's lining up against your de Grams, he's
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: lining up against your your schoobls uh, And he's the
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: one that he's he's winning those games or at least
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: giving you an opportunity to win those games. So if
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: you lose a Gavin, that's that's a big blow. He's
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: eating up a lot of innings for this club, But
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: so is Parker Messeig. I mean, you could say the
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: same thing about Parker. You know, these two guys, both
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: of them a month ago, you were talking about like
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: either one of them could potentially start the All Star Game.
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: That's how good these guys were early in the season.
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: I know Gavin's numbers have taken a little bit of
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: a step back, but he's still missing bats at a
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: really high rate. His eras crept up a little bit,
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: but Parker's still a sub three. Beating up innings, getting teams,
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: you know, getting the team deep in the game, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: keeping the bullpen fresh. But dude, this is rotation. You
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: talk about it like if they lose a guy, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: think they have the depth in triple A to cover it, right.
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: They do have the depth in the bullpen to maybe,
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: you know, rely upon a fifth starter for four or
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: five innings and then be a bullpen game from there
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: on out. But man, if this team gets in the postseason,
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: you can take a guy like Slaye Secconi and put
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: him in the bullpen.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: Let his stuff play up.
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: Man, that is a really, really dangerous group that is
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: going to be very difficult to score off of.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Well, that was gonna be my next question. Playoffs start tomorrow.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Who is the game one starter? Because last few years,
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: it's been Tanner Bibi is who they leaned on.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I mean Tanner's the guy who you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: he kind of drives the ship there, like Cultrie, like
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: he's the leader. But I don't think he would have
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: any qualms with you know, Gavin or Parker getting the
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: ball right. And I think too as a club, I
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: think Vote does a really really good job. I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: that front office does a great job of trying to
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: figure out where are our best matchups? Right, So, if
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: we're playing you know, say the Houston Astros, You've got
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: a lot of right handed.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: Bats, Gavin's probably my you know, game one guy.
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: You know, if I'm playing a team that's left handed
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: heavy or balance, you know, I might go with Parker
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: because then I can have Gavin go games two, game five.
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: So but if I needed to win a game tomorrow,
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: I'm probably going with Gavin.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Tody. We mentioned Las and in and out of the lineup.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: You lost, just lost Martinez. Right. Can they keep face
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: with the White Sox?
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: I think they can.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Are they going to be too far behind because the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: White Sox just keep going like this and the Guardians
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: keep going like White Sox.
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: Here in the Guardians, you know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'll say this, they were fifteen games out
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: last year, they were fifteen games back and they half
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: right and a half fifteen and a half, and they
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: caught up in six weeks seven weeks. So this group,
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: I don't think even if they were to get five
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: six games back or seven games back in the deadline,
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: I don't think there's any panic here. And I also
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: think too, we're going to get Jose back. We're going
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: to get these guys back. You know, you're gonna get
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: an influx of you know, maybe a Cooper Ingle who's
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: in Triple A raking right now. You could get, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: an influx the talent at the trade deadline. That kind
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: of gives this team of booths boost. But losing those
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: guys hurts. But I mean, I mean, do you look
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: at I mean, they're they're still playing pretty good baseball.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: If you look at their statistics as a team and
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: their ability to score runs. They really haven't figured it
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: out yet. Travis Bizan I started off, he's struggled a
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: little bit.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: So you got.
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  Speaker 10: Everybody at the same time that's kind of either scuffling
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: with injury or scuffling with performance, and they're still right there.
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: So I think you know, all of us we know
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  Speaker 10: that over a six month season, there is you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: peaks and valleys for this season, and if you can
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: kind of weather those down times, man, when you get
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: on a heater, you just kind of go. And that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: what this team's done for the last few years, is
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: they've just kind of weather the storm, whether the storm,
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: whether the storm go on or run. And they're playing
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: in October.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Is there a way that this team misses the playoffs
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: this year and it's considered a unsuccessful season and not
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: an organizational standpoint, but in just baseball.
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: Standpoint, if they missed the playoffs, if these if they
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: don't get certain guys.
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: Back, if if some of these you know, fifteen day ils.
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: Turn into forty days or forty five days, or Jose
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: doesn't bounce back, you potentially, you know, because you can
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: only overcome so much.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: You can't you know, you can't overcome the d L.
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: There's only a couple of teams in baseball that can
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: do that because they have the resources.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: Cleveland is in one of them.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Why not make some trades, Cody.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: I mean, they can't, they definitely can't. They definitely can
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: make some trades. I mean, like I said earlier, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: think Taylor Worred great fit. I think he would be
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: a great fit for the team. I think if we're
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: looking at how Cleveland has approached the deadline, historically, there's
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: always an eye on the future, and so I think
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: a guy like Joe Adell could be a fit, you know.
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: And there's also there's some whispers about Freddy Peralta. You know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: you add him into the rotation. You're able to take
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: a guy like a slave Seconi or somebody and you're
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: you put them in the bullpen and and now you know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: You're you're basically not addressing the offense.
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: But it's a net positive because we're just gonna get
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: even better at run, you know, keep runs off the board.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: All right, Cody, So I've been waiting for you to
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: be on the show. I saw you were on KP's show.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: You have to go back to twenty seventeen when we
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: were in spring training together, okay, me, you and Luke
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: Carlin were over at your house and we were having
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: some we were having some whiskey, okay, yeah, and you
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: do you remember the bet that you made with Luke
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: and I.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Because you had him.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: It was about Jose Ramirez, right.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Jose Ramirez versus Carlos.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: No what No, Jose Ramirez versus Jason Kipness because Josey
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: had just signed just signed his deal, and you said,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: Jason Kidness is going to have a better career than
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Jose Ramirez and Luke And I said, huh, what did
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: you bet?
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: I think you you were way too deep. You didn't
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: say that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: You text after this and we are still waiting to
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: see our very expensive bottle of whatever twenty five years
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: or older you're going to send to us.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Hey, I'll send it to you regardless. I didn't say that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'm not a liar. You know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: You know what I think?
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: You know that the conversation every time I'm up in Cleveland,
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: you know, because you know, you look at the team
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: last year, You're like, like Jose, like he's just chasing
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: down like these legendary records, right. I think he's like
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: he's got the most games played in the history. Now,
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: I think he's like third in Homer's second double second hits.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: I mean, you just look at it and you go
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: back to like that twenty sixteen and seven he was
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: the opening day left fielder in twenty sixteen. So I
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: mean you think about like he was considered like a
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: utility player that is probably gonna end up being a
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: first ballot Hall of Famer. So I you know, yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: you guys can call me out all you want, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: I don't think anybody saw what he's doing right now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Luke and I did.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: That's what we're arguing with you.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe okay, that's better than no, he didn't say it, Okay.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Maybe I mean he figured it out.
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: And then dude, he is so good man like, he
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: is so good and I think you guys can just
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: speak to this too, like his ability just to like
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: answer the bell on a daily basis, and I mean
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: for a long time. You know, he it's not like
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: he's doing it with you know, a ton of like
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: big boppers that cover him. Like when we went and
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: got Edwin and Carrossion in twenty and seventeen, Jose was
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: his protection. He hasn't had a Jose hitting behind him
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: or an Edwin hitting behind him.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: He's been putting up these numbers, you know, you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: he's at Kwan in front. He's had you know, some
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: some good players behind him.
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: But he hasn't had like a like a dog behind him,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: just kind of making sure that this guy gets multiple
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: pitch to hit every night.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: You probably thought to be a better player.
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: Than j He you don't dog Lonnie, don't dog my boy.
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: Lni shis inhle.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: You you see see see I know it. I know
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: I'll be looking for looking for it in the mail.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Let me know, send me an address.
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: Take care of you, Cody, thank you so much for
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: swinging by. Really appreciate it. Great ball talk with you
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: and kiddo in the back did great.
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Man. Let
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: me know.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Cheers.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: That's Cody Allen all right, see you guys,