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Ep. 217 Lavarephobia · Privycast

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  Mm-hmm.
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  Welcome back to Privy.
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  Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded from my home bathroom.
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  I'm your host, Hunter Hoover, and I love bathrooms.
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  Welcome back, everyone.
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  Thank you so much for being here.
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  And it it's weird to say this because I feel like I feel like we're missing something.
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  We'll get to what we're missing in a minute.
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  I I know what we're missing.
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  I'm just I'm I'm feigning ignorance on it.
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  But it's it's it is technically spooky season.
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  Spooky season because of poop.
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  And this year, I don't know, it it's weird because people seem to this year to have like so people decorate for Christmas, I would say early, you know.
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  You start to see Christmas decorations going up pretty much like beginning in November, middle of November, which
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  I'll confess when my wife and I first got married, we would decorate for Christmas on Halloween evening.
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  And and now, like we can't do that.
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  We have to wait.
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  Otherwise, it starts to eat up, important birthdays.
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  But yeah, it you know, Christmas is one of those holidays that seems to get decorated for for like a month and a half, two months.
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  And this year, no joke, like middle of September, fully a month and a half away from Halloween.
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  Halloween decorations were going up all over the city of Albany here where I live.
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  And what's even more fascinating, and I'm not talking fall decorations.
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  Fall decorations are different than Halloween decorations.
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  If you know, you know.
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  Like you can look at a decoration and know just off the vibe of it, whether it's fall or Halloween.
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  Halloween being more of that spooky vibe, and fall definitely leaning more into the like Yeah.
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  It's it's whimsical white lady, you know what I'm saying?
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  Anyway, but but this is like people in our neighborhood, and they must have had a sale on these things or something.
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  Because I I have counted no fewer than like 10, maybe 11, giant 10 to 20 foot tall skeletons in various in various poses and postures, standing erect because of bones,
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  laying down, relaxing, lazy bones.
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  And it's just like
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  Somebody had to have these things on sale because there's so many of them.
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  And there's so many of them going up in September.
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  Like, our neighborhood alone, just like the little neighborhood that I live in, I've seen three.
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  One is like peering over the fence.
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  It's freaking weird.
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  And I think all these people believe they live in like some strange Halloween town where everybody's like, we gotta decorate for Halloween a month and a half early.
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  But the thing about Halloween is like
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  It's kind of got one big payoff on Halloween night.
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  And outside of that, it's it's pretty like it's just kind of, you know, I guess there's movies and stuff.
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  But it it these things are like 25 feet tall.
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  And I apparently spooky season fell on my town and probably yours as well, earlier than it normally does.
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  Spooky season officially starts October first.
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  So by the t point of this episode's release,
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  You're almost a full week into spoop key season.
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  Welcome.
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  I hope you're not scared yet.
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  Hooggity Dang Old Boogity.
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  But with it's spoopky season, consequently, that means it's twist season.
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  Now, we've explained twist season on the show, and last year the show was hijacked by the crypt keeper himself.
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  It's very strange.
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  Yeah.
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  But twist season is essentially this is the premise.
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  The the famous song.
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  I'm now this is just so that way you know what it is, what I'm talking about.
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  But this is it's incorrectly named.
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  The Monster Mash is incorrectly named because in the song The Monster Match, which we all know, the Monster Mash is named after the dance.
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  That they monsters do in the Monster Mash that they end up calling the Monster Mash, but in the song The Monster Mash, named after the dance The Monster Mash, which isn't the
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  Monster Mash, we find out that really the Cryptkeeper is the one who came up with the Dance, and he called the Dance the Transylvania Twist.
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  And it was only when he was unable to defend his his.
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  licensed property that it was unjustly renamed and the credits stolen from him when it was recalled the monster mash.
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  So twist season is when we put out it's kind of like a get out the vote, but nobody votes really.
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  But we raise awareness of the injustice that is the Monster Mash.
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  It's the Transylvania twist.
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  To call it anything else is to try to silence Transylvania culture.
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  Not the best look.
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  I'm just gonna say, if that's you, that's your choice.
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  But it's bad look.
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  And the only reason that we have twist season overlap with spoop key season is not because they're not equally important.
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  Spoopky, the scary things of poop, and twist, the the justice for the the twist, it's just because that's the time of year that you hear the Transylvania twist get played.
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  And so
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  With all the conversations this year, that you know, this is popping up because there's all these conversations around AI and how AI is infringing on copyright and it's it's
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  stealing people's original property and his original material, and people are all up in arms about this stuff.
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  Well, if you're up in arms and you're upset about that, then you should be upset, pissed, I dare say, about the Transylvania twist.
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  I don't want to go too on too long about it.
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  Like people who know me.
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  People who know me know that I'm very reasonable and I don't really like to talk about the Transylvania twist that much.
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  So I'm not gonna go on for minutes about the Transylvania twist and the importance that we call it as such and not the Monster Mash.
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  It's spooky season.
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  And so as we always do this time of year on Privy, we dip our toe into some of the scarier aspects of bathroom and spooky themed things.
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  And so with that, let's jump in.
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  In the past, during spoop key season, we've talked about a number of scary topics.
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  While a lot of these topics exist.
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  and and actually exit the bathroom.
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  They talk about creatures outside the bathroom that have been invented or are confronted that are of a scarier nature.
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  Most of them
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  Take fear and place it in the bathroom.
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  Way back in the start of things, in the earliest days of this show, we discussed being pee or bladder shy and how those phenomenon are related to something called Europhobia, that
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  is fear of peeing pee or peeing in front of people.
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  Technically, Europhobia is tied to
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  To a fear of doing private things like urinating in front of public people, such as in a public bathroom.
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  But that phenomenon observed before we even started looking at spooky season looked at a bit of the psychology of what makes a person pea shy.
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  Today's spoop key season kicks off.
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  It's our it's our
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  Inaugural Spoop Key Season Episode 2026.
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  And it's another bathroom-related, specific phobia.
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  In fact, this phobia or fear is specifically the fear of the bathroom.
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  Laverophobia is the intense and unexplainable fear of bathrooms, both public and personal.
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  And I'll say, the number of times that we've discussed bathrooms on this show, it's a podcast about bathrooms.
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  Like it's in the show art.
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  I mean, if you got here somehow and you're afraid of bathrooms, please email me privycast at gmail.com.
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  I would love to talk to you.
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  In fact, I will break my 200 plus episode run of recording in a bathroom to record with you an interview about what that's like, because I am fascinated.
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  We've talked about things that happened in, live in, come from.
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  And smell like bathrooms that most of them regular people could be afraid of.
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  However, we have not discussed people just being afraid of bathrooms in general.
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  In fact, like I didn't even know this was a thing.
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  I would have chalked it up to like uh a germ thing rather than a fear.
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  But this fear is apparently real.
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  And we gotta find out: is there any history of
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  to laverophobia?
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  Like where did this come from?
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  And what is the path forward for a person who might be experiencing sensations of liverophobia?
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  First, if you if you hear Leveraphobia and think that's made up, Hoovie just made up a fake word so he had something to kick off spoop key season with.
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  That's not true.
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  If you're gonna be if you're gonna be coming out with like coming out with the Hoovie, don't be don't be saying I made stuff up.
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  It's it just it.
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  It is in fact a real thing.
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  It's just a recent thing.
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  Like the development and understanding and the labeling of
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  of laverophobia is pretty pretty recent.
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  The the word laverophobia comes from the Latin lavere, which means to wash, but this is not merely, however, a fear of washing.
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  Rather, it is a fear of the place that you go to do your washing.
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  The washroom, if you will, or as we lay people like to call it, the bathroom.
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  Or if you prefer
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  And if you're sophisticated enough, the privy.
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  Lavatory comes from the same Latin word lavater, la ver.
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  This fear of the bathroom is a modern phenomenon to be observed, but as we're gonna note, it isn't really modern.
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  There's a long history of people not liking or avoiding or having a less than positive view of the bathroom.
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  In very ancient times, there were no like official bathrooms.
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  Insofar as like any bush or local tree stump, or if you go back in our history as America far enough, just the local street and gutter, those were all bathrooms.
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  Pretty great.
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  However, even in those cultures where like the bush and your back patio and like just the local watering hole are all just kind of your local bathrooms.
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  Even in those cultures, there were often like laws or guidelines or like
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  Socially developed expectations.
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  About where a person could go to the bathro bathroom.
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  And if they didn't have rules about where, usually those rules could be summed up as you do your bathroom outside of where the people are living.
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  It's just that simple.
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  But there were rules about what you had to do with the poop after you pooed it out your butt.
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  It usually involved taking it away from where people are living.
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  There's an early and innate aversion to bathrooming that we've discussed on the show.
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  Like it exists for a reason.
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  And it's tied directly to people's perception of death and disease, things that smell because they've rotted in the decayed sun, connected to the the the very bad brown stank
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  that we're slinging out our our bee.
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  Like maybe there's something dead going on there.
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  When people started to build structures and devices for going to the bathroom, known as bathrooms and toilets.
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  They did not at first make them personal and private.
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  That came later.
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  Bathrooms were a public thing.
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  The Greek and Romans are famous for their communal bathhouses and toilets.
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  It's kind of a peculiar thing, like when you think about it.
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  The aversion seems directly tied to the actual poop and pee going on in the bathroom space.
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  The byproduct of this stuff and not the making or the person making the stuff.
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  They're not afraid of you, Doug.
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  They're afraid of the very big pile of of of processed chicken wings that you just slang, buddy.
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  In these cultures, to poop next to your best friend into the Roman sewer is totally normal.
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  But if your best friend poops in the street, outside your house, it's very bad.
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  Aversion then is tied to cleanliness and hygiene.
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  People didn't really care about tandem pooping.
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  And I I really think this is something that we're missing in the year 2026 of our Lord is we need more tandem pooping.
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  Co like cooperative pooping.
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  You have these co-op board games and co-op video games, and you have like homeschool co-ops and we need co-op bathrooming.
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  You know, a brother to hold your hand while you grunt one out.
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  Somebody to be there, emotional support and provide backup TP when things get rough.
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  And if they get rough, they change out for softer ply if able.
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  Maybe there's one of those where you can like stick your hand through the the stall and just like, I'm here.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  Be there, be there for a poop and buddy.
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  But people didn't really care about co-op pooping back then.
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  As long as the bathroom experience was perceived, believed to be hygienic, it got a pass.
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  And in some cases throughout history, what was perceived as clean and what was clean were two very, very different things.
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  Most teenage boys perceive most of their lives to be pretty clean, and they're not.
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  Take a shower.
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  No one else knew this better than the folks living in the medieval period, who, thanks to cholera and the Black Death, both of which were not helped by perceptions of cleanliness,
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  resulted in thousands dead.
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  That, and there was an actual fear not only of washrooms, but of washing at this time.
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  During the medieval period, they believed that hot water opened up a person's pores.
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  Now, what's interesting is they actually kinda got this right.
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  Like, good onya.
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  But that when they opened up the pores of a person, it actually released death into the air, especially when they applied the humors to their reasons for why.
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  So washing, taking a bath, a hot shower, which they didn't really have much of, could release a demon or a disease on someone else.
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  A real thing.
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  Real people were actually afraid of that if I take a bath.
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  I might release a demon on my house.
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  Now I don't like baths.
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  They're not demonic.
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  Surely.
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  In 1530, what was one of the first texts to speak about manners was written.
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  And in this in this work, there was a fascinating new addition to the etiquette encyclopedia.
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  Erasmus, who we've talked about before on the show, he's got a fun name.
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  It's like Bombastus Erasmus or Erasmus.
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  Yeah.
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  Who also popped up on the show.
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  Before again, he wrote a text called On the Civility of Children, or as it came to be known in time, Etiquette for Young Boys.
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  In it, Erasmus details a number of pretty sensible etiquette pieces.
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  One of those, however, is that if a person is relieving themselves, by the way, like along the road, and they're taking a fat dump, like, don't go up to them.
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  And introduce yourself.
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  There's not time for that.
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  Man's man's mid men's mid brown stack.
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  Like centerfold just he's he's the the prairie dog is stuck at the waist coming out of the hole.
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  And some dudes walking up is like, hey, pleased to meet you.
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  Like, you're gonna shake my hand, brother?
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  Like, no, I'm no, I'm grunting one out in the weeds, dude.
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  Like, leave me the heck alone.
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  So Erasmus had to weigh in on it, as if we needed him to, to say that you don't approach a person when they're forcing a turd out of their butt because it's rude.
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  It's bad etiquette.
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  Now, some online articles, and and I am of this opinion as well.
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  Note that if Erasmus had to tell these young boys to not do this, it probably means that there were young boys running around who had a habit or had grown up with it as a norm
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  that it's totally fine to go up and introduce yourself and say hi.
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  Ask them what your favorite color is while the man's mid stream or mid grunt.
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  It's crazy.
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  It's crazy.
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  These kids are wild out here.
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  This idea led to people thinking, who really should have access to me when I'm in the middle of my private bathrooming business?
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  Where I perform my natural talents as a human chocolate soft service machine.
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  And honestly, they land on the answer of pretty much no one needs to have access to you while you push the excess whatever's out of your body.
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  And honestly, it's probably the right answer.
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  Like if we're telling the truth.
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  That's probably the correct answer.
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  Those who could afford to poop in private did so.
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  And those who couldn't were peasants and pooped in the street like a commoner.
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  I'm a I'm a commoner because of the love of the game, not because I can't, you know.
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  I'm just out here.
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  In the 1680 to 1800s, having a place to go to the bathroom that was not public was a matter of class difference.
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  If you could afford to have a private chamber,
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  In your living quarters where you go to the bathroom?
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  That was bougie as heck, boy.
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  People are still pooping outside in latrines and outhouses.
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  This shift in thinking that pooping in private is better, more sophisticated, and was like higher class than pooping with a friend started the trajectory wherein the bathroom
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  experience for people became more and more privatized.
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  And in time, we would arrive at the bathrooms we have today.
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  Everyone has one.
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  Some people have two.
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  I have two bathrooms in my home.
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  I think that's what they call white privilege.
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  And almost everyone has access to a public one.
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  Like there's days where I get off work at the high school.
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  I've been holding my pee for hours.
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  I've I've had to deuce for for multiple hours.
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  And I'm on my way home and I use my failing sphincter muscles as justification to go to Target for check for Pokemon cards.
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  It's like, well, I do have to poop.
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  So I do think I'm gonna hit the target bathroom, drop a stack, but I'm here.
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  So I might as well get eyes on the Pokemon shelf and see what we got cooking.
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  Now, we had Micah, friend of the show and and guest last week, Micah Herring, talking Pokemon's cards.
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  Boy, I struck out this week.
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  Like I just struck out on the cards.
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  It's it's a tough week.
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  But there's this shift that pooping in private is is better.
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  And in time we arrive at the bathroom situation that we have today, that even if we need to go out in public, the public bathrooms are very private.
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  But if that's a personal part that's probably more the concern, the separate on basis of class.
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  This is all just culture and norms shifting, though.
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  It doesn't explain to us how the bathroom got inside people's heads or how people's thinking changed about the bathroom to bring it to the place of phobia.
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  As people began to observe these behaviors and aversions in the wild.
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  They began to ask, why are people not pooping around each other as much?
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  Better yet, there started to be documentation.
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  Fear spread of washing spaces in washrooms in sanitation and other infrastructure because it was not as developed.
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  Because those were the places people would go to poop, it got a bad rap for sometimes of not being very sanitary.
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  And so, privacy.
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  Grew as the standard for these more public bathroom spaces.
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  If you want to use the bathroom where you were once not guaranteed or could expect a level of privacy, they started to look at what made people's brains shift in thinking on this.
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  At the time, a relatively new field of study was emerging.
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  In it, people were trying to explain what made people do the things that they did.
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  One of the people pioneering in this space was a man named Sigmund Freud.
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  I'm gonna be honest.
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  I think a lot of what Freud came up with, like his whole shtick, I think a lot of it was a load of croc.
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  But he wanted to try and explain everything through like sex and how you interact with your parents.
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  I think he had some weird stuff going on.
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  Like, I think Freud had some weird stuff going on.
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  And so he theorized that it that a child's thinking about the bathroom, like how they believe and think and interact with the bathroom, would be directly related to how their
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  parents spoke about and taught them about the bathroom.
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  as they were being potty trained.
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  The idea is a kid will view the bathroom as private if his parents treat the potty training experience as private.
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  One extension of this is if a parent makes the bathroom experience something where you don't shut the door, it's a more public thing.
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  Like you have these bathroom intruder children who just outright walk in on you without any sort of notice.
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  They're like, hey, dad.
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  And it's like, bro, do you not see that A, the door was shut?
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  B I no, I'm not fixing the iPad right now, or I'm not getting that open for you because I'm in the middle of something.
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  Didn't you read Erasmus' book?
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  He said to not do this.
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  He told you explicitly if somebody's mid stack, don't walk up on
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  Don't introduce yourself, mid poop.
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  It's fine.
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  I think, you know, I I may have accidentally raised two bathroom intruders.
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  It's it's whatever.
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  Poop with the bathroom open, kids.
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  It's fine.
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  Plus you're at a guest house and then like shut the door.
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  But then also if somehow you made bathrooms scary, like if parents made the bathroom experience a scary thing.
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  Usually through some level of overreaction, someone could develop a phobia or fear related to the bathroom.
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  Personally, I think Freud is blaming a lot on the parents.
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  Rather, if parents are teaching their kids things related to the bathroom, that is going to go a lot farther.
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  Put on this show for them.
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  We try to keep it family friendly.
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  I would say we're as family friendly as a bathroom podcast can be.
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  So there you go.
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  But fear related to childhood baggage, if that baggage is brought into the bathroom space.
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  Could easily explain how people's bathroom fears, their lev laverophobia, have developed.
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  This all got grouped in when the smell started to get mixed up.
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  When that stank just hits your nostrils, something that has been associated with death and decay is now coupled with anxiety and notions possibly from what you picked up socially.
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  Those aversions combine in the world.
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  oh That brings us to today.
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  Leverophobia is something that they really only started to identify as a phenomenon in very recent times.
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  Up until then, it would be labeled fear of public space, fear of peeing, or pooping in public, fear of germs or other hygiene related things also pop up pop up a lot in the
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  bathroom space.
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  These are like tertiary fears or phobias that are bathroom related.
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  We've talked a lot about those in spoop key season.
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  But these are all different from what counselors and other shrinks started to be described as leveraphobia.
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  People were actually afraid of the bathroom.
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  Not just going to the bathroom.
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  They had a fear of the existence of the place.
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  In the most mild cases of liverophobia, there's anxiety, panic, and unwanted distress around public bathrooms and unfamiliar toilets.
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  I gotta tell you something.
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  First of all, Unfamiliar Toilets, great band name.
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  Could be a good name for this podcast, The Unfamiliar Toilet.
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  Now we're seven years in.
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  We w we're not we're not changed.
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  But unless your personal toilet at home isn't very like it like other than your home toilet, your bathroom, like your home but home base one.
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  Ne the nest, the turd nest.
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  Isn't every toilet unfamiliar?
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  Like I think I'm familiar with my the the toilet at the school I work at, the toilet at the church, the toilet at the gym, the toilet at my parents' house.
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  Like I'm trying to think of
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  How many toilets in my life I would d I would describe as familiar?
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  Like
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  I think I probably have ten familiar toilets.
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  And that's not a lot because the world is filled
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  With good and totally viable toilets, check out our toilet Tuesday on Privy at PrivyCast on Instagram.
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  In the most severe cases of leveraphobia, it keeps a person from or makes them afraid of their even their own personal bathrooms.
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  And the trouble is, well, this can be a problem in severe cases, it leaves you with very few and little options.
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  Everybody pees and everybody poops.
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  And in the most debilitating instances, those with leveraphobia to come up with we'll just say they have to come up with more creative outlets to do their peeing and pooping.
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  If you're afraid of the bathroom, we might have something that can help.
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  It's a podcast that you can listen to right now.
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  Wherever you are, in the bathroom or otherwise, the podcast is made in the bathroom, but and it covers all things bathroom because one of the things that you can do to begin
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  tackling and overcome your fears is by exposing yourself to not that way stop it.
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  I didn't even pause, so don't think I said that and don't clip this.
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  But you have to make yourself
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  face those fears a bit.
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  And so I I I the podcast, just put it on, listen to it, learn a little bit about bathrooms, grow in your appreciation of them.
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  And I hope that as you do, you can overcome your fears this spooky season.
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  As we've discussed over the years, there are plenty of scary and scary adjacent things which happen in or come from bathrooms.
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  But the bathrooms themselves, as long as they're pretty clean and orderly, they're really not that big of a concern.
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  Thank you all so much for joining us for our inaugural spoop key season episode.
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  And every rating and review you leave, we will donate some money to Wounded Warriors International and Living Water International as a reminder to keep pooping in the free
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  world.
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  This free world was not always free.
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  And in pursuit of cleaner water for all, not everybody has clean water, but everybody should.
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  We've got past episodes.
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  So you can go check out
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  So go check those things out.
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  As always, we want to thank Kevin and Poddington for the use of their music and any other music that we have used.
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  Those links are down in the description below.
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  Links for this episode sources about laverophobia are down below.
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  This brings us to the end of another episode of Privy.
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  Keep hooping in the free world, own your stink, face your bathroom fears, and now, as always, don't forget to flush.