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MotoAmerica action and MotoGP storylines break down in S6 Episode 21 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  What are we here for? What do you truly want?
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  When change is not enough, what do you do?
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  What are we here for? What do you truly want?
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  When change is not enough, what do you do?
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  Let's talk about it. The Proms we face.
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  Let's fight hatred. No doubt, always the mind is
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  naked. We can see it without an X-ray.
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  Life is easy if we work together.
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  We are the keepers, We are the people.
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  We are all equal, fit with purpose.
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  The past has pain, it'll drive you, even make you take aim.
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  But together is where we should aim.
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  Together is where we should. What are we here for?
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  What do you truly want? When change is night and night,
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  what do you do? You listen to the beef here.
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  With Me, Podcast 40. Five.
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  I'd like to say I'm on the mic. At least once a week.
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  And I'm excited about that for sure.
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  Let me fix my screen a little bit.
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  So before I bring the guys in, I got to say I kind of feel pretty
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  cool. I mean, the show's been doing
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  really well so far. People have been commented and
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  some of the guys might need a bodyguard or two, but tonight is
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  kind of exciting because you know, we got some guys as you
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  guys already know, the real Luis Ortega already know recent
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  attack Yamaha tonight we got High Rev Trevor, also Moto
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  America. So I'm kind of excited.
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  We're going to have some fun tonight and talk about it.
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  It's been a long week, so I think I feel like I get I got to
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  play some music too tonight. So we might get into that and
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  see, but sit down, you know, crack out, crack open what you
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  need to crack open because we're going to have some fun tonight.
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  It's the Beef Forever Cool podcast.
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  With no further ado. Let's bring the guys in like we
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  normally do. Hi Revs.
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  Trev man, welcome to the Monday night podcast, man.
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  Appreciate you coming on tonight.
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  What's good man? How you doing tonight?
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  I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
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  I guess It is Monday, man. It's my girl's spring break, so
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  it just almost feels like COVID all over again.
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  Just locked down. Not much to do, you know so.
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  Right, right. Glad to be back on.
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  Thanks for having me. Nice man.
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  Now the I know, I know you were used in Moto America.
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  Do you? How much do you follow World
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  Super Bike and Moto GP and even BSB and some of the other
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  classes? Yeah, definitely.
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  Moto GP World Super bike when when the app isn't messing up,
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  not so much BSB, kind of what we see on social media and stuff
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  like that. But yeah, definitely, you know,
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  I got my fantasy Moto GP going, so I got to make sure I'm
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  following that squad for sure. Right, right, right.
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  That's what's up. All right, man, we're going get
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  all everyone in and then we're going to chop it up and see
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  what's happening. It's a little crazy break
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  because of things that are out of our out of our control and
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  you know, guitar round isn't happening.
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  Reese, man, welcome to the show, man.
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  How you doing tonight man? What's going on, man?
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  Everything's good. Just on my way home.
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  Get ready for Atlanta. OK, then that's what's up, man.
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  When you say on your way home, because like when I say on my
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  way home, I'm going. To lose an hour away, Yeah,
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  you're an hour away. I'm a couple days away.
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  I won't be home until Sunday and then fly out Tuesday for Atlanta
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  first round. Man, that's what's up.
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  You stay with the suitcase. Live out of the suitcase man,
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  try to go home and spend some quality time with the family
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  before hit the road again all. Right, that's what's up man.
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  Are you are you excited with the break from Moto GP or is is you
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  just got to find something else to keep you occupied while you
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  while you are doing the miles? I'm good.
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  I don't need a we could, we could take a break because I'm
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  going to have a long season, so I could take a break.
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  I'm going to need it mentally. No doubt.
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  No doubt. I feel that.
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  I feel you there. All right, man.
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  We'll keep it moving. No, Lewis man, how you doing?
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  Hey, what's going on? How you doing tonight?
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  Man, I'm trying to get my machine to work properly.
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  It's just not cooperating. Other than that, I'll be good.
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  What's good, man? According to some of our fans,
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  it must be made in China because they only make complete trash in
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  China. Dude, listen, man, I, I, you
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  know, I, it's I, it's funny because like we forget about the
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  tough times of all the manufacturers.
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  It's. Well it's funny because most of
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  them are responding on a phone that was made in China talking
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  about they only make trash sound.
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  Well, we, we, we all set on straight.
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  I mean, that's what we're doing. And I and I, and apparently we
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  we were striking a nerve or two, so.
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  Me striking a nerve or two. Listen man, I, I, I want you to
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  be able to travel freely, man. I can travel anywhere I need to
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  travel, man. I've had people come up to me
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  and say they disagree with me, but they, they're, they're
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  honest and they're, they're respectful in their disagreement
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  and some of them have valid points and some of them don't.
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  I listen to their points. You know, I, I won't get into a
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  heavy debate with them, but I'll, I'll, you know, I'll more
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  than happy to listen to them and give them my opinion as they're
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  giving me my their opinion and it's all respectful.
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  It's all good. It's, it's part, you know, it's
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  part of the game. Oh, no doubt, no doubt.
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  I, I, I'm seeing it in the comments.
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  So you know, it is what it is. I guess.
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  Let's talk about that guys. I mean, you know, you guys are
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  all in the public eye when you're at the race track and
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  stuff like that and people come up to you.
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  So kinda, you know, is it is, it is, is there life training for
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  that at, at the, at the, the pro level?
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  Would it tell you how to deal with, you know, people that
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  don't necessarily agree with you?
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  There used to be not so much anymore.
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  You know, we all sign NDA's and, you know, kind of watch your P's
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  and Q's online or in the public eye and, you know, you just
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  can't go around MF and everybody anymore.
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  But yeah, there's no, if we were like a factory team or something
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  like that, I'm sure we would have a a media manager.
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  I'm sure like Jet and Hunter and those guys on the supercross
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  side, they got a media manager that's like, hey, you got to
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  stick to the script and thank your sponsors and you know, you
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  can't be like danger boy type deal.
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  But on my end of it kind of independent, even though I work
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  for Honda and and my views don't necessarily express, you know,
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  their opinion type deal. Yeah, there's there.
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  We don't. We're not necessarily in, we're
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  in guardrails, but not as tight as it should be for sure.
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  Gotcha. Gotcha.
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  OK, that's what's up. Mind your PS and QS.
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  What are your what are your thoughts, Reese?
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  Hey, how you deal with it? You got to hang somebody over.
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  I won't say. Anything.
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  Nah. I mean, unfortunately I got to
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  mind my PS and QS a little bit more on the factory side.
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  I mean, there is, like I said, I mean those guys we do, you know,
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  they have a a list of sponsors they got to thank and everything
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  they got to, you know, stick to the script.
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  But you know, those guys on the crew guys, you know, we still
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  got to stick to the stick to the code of conduct.
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  You want to say, you know, be professional.
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  I mean, we can't go around dropping F bombs.
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  You want to as bad as heck. But you know, we got to be
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  respectful to the fans because they do come out and watch.
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  But you know, it's something we do got to be respectful at
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  times, but there's a lot of times you want to hang somebody
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  by, you know, you know, just literally just cussing the hell
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  out. But can't do that all the time.
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  OK, no doubt, no doubt, Lewis, man, I mean, you know, you, you,
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  you wouldn't get what you got to by hit people in the nose.
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  So maybe not in public. It all it all depends what shirt
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  I have on at the moment. Obviously the the views and
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  opinions as expressed by myself are my own and do not reflect
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  this with the views and opinions of my company.
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  But if you know if I'm wearing a company shirt and I'm in company
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  mode, then I have to be a company man and conduct myself a
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  certain way. But if I'm not in a company
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  shirt, you get a different opinion.
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  Probably you get slightly modified feedback.
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  Nice, nice. We like, we, we, we like the
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  sound of that. Yeah, man, I'm, I'm trying to
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  figure where to where, where to where to kick it off with.
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  But let's do the, you know, motor Americas in a couple of
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  week, man, and we're excited for that.
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  You know, you know, I guess I'm going to be there this this time
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  around. But if you guys, it's, it's the
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  routine and stuff like that, when it starts to get close, you
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  know, what does that feel like for you?
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  What does preparation look like? What, you know, what's the
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  mindset? You know, You know, for me, I'm
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  a fan. So I'm just excited because
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  everything goes right. What's going on, Joe?
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  Yeah. For me, you know, when the
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  season's over, I don't know if if other racers experience and
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  stuff like that, but you kind of go through like this post mortem
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  depression, you know, 'cause the racing's over, the stress over,
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  you take off that backpack, that weight you've been carrying all
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  season with the training and trying to get results and
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  sponsorship obligations and everything else like that.
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  Then you kind of go on a little break and then you got to get
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  back in the training and then I'm back in the training.
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  But unfortunately right now we don't have our deal put together
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  yet. So so I'm kind of on on edge and
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  almost almost got the clutch pulled in a little bit and
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  neutral trying to get not too worked up because I think our
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  first round won't be until Rd. America at this point.
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  So yeah, just kind of excited because I will be at Rd.
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  Atlanta. I'll be there just spectating
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  and, and going out and talking to the sponsors and the fans
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  and, you know, doing the best I can to represent, you know, my
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  sponsor still with hustle hard and porous R and of course
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  Honda. But as of right now, we're we're
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  on the we're a spectator. So.
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  We're off the. Grid and stuff, you know.
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  But yeah, I'm ready to rock'n'roll.
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  We just got to get our deal finished up.
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  I got an extra mic, so you know, you don't have to be a
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  spectator. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man.
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  Put me. Put me to work man.
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  You know what I'm saying? OK, then that's what's up, man.
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  We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll talk about that some more.
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  Now let's get to Reese, man. What's good, man?
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  You know, I mean, it seems like you're always working, so you're
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  always prepared. So you know, how does it work,
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  man I. Mean, I guess the intensity
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  level starts kicking in, the stress level starts getting
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  higher, you know, making sure everything is ready to go.
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  I know I just left the shop, you know, a couple days ago.
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  I know those those boys over there and they got everything
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  ready to go in the truck during the last preparations.
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  Last time I talked to the riders, I know they're ready to
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  go. So I mean, everybody's, you
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  know, kind of on edge and just that anxious moment, just like
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  you're ready to start the show, OK.
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  OK, I hear that, man. I get, I get anxious every day.
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  Lewis. What's good?
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  Lewis, man? I mean, what what is it like for
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  you? I mean, you know, I would think
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  your season's a little bit different or maybe you follow a
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  few different trends. You know what is it like man?
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  Yeah, my season's a little bit different.
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  I mean, I have to kind of follow what's going on in the track.
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  But it's not just track that I have to worry about.
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  You know, I have to worry about photo shoots for new products.
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  I have to worry about when launch dates for new products
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  are going to come out. I have to schedule these.
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  I have to plan product seeding, content creation, content
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  collection, going through all the materials and make sure that
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  they're ready to distribute, ordering samples, looking at
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  samples, you know, ordering inventory for the USI mean,
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  that's my season never stops, you know, So like racing is one
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  part of it. So like what, you know, it's
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  work, but it's actually a little bit of a distraction from work
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  to go to the racetrack for two or three days and just work with
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  7-8 or nine people, make sure that they're OK, make sure that
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  everything they need is there and ready to go.
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  Like that's actually a little bit easier, you know, and just,
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  you know, relationship building. We have a lot of people that
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  like to be in our products, but they have contracts with other
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  people. And, and I'm not that guy.
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  Like there's some guys in the paddock, but I'm not that guy
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  that goes around a paddock. Like, Hey, you want to come ride
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  for me? I'll if I, if you ride for me,
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  I'll do this for you. I'll do that for, you know, like
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  I don't go around stealing people's riders.
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  Like I just don't people ride for me because they want to be
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  part of the team. They know how I treat them.
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  They know how I take care of them.
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  So it's, it's a little bit different because when I go to
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  the track and I talk to the guys that are in our gear, they're
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  they're not necessarily in our gear because there's a
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  contractor. They're not necessarily in our
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  gear because I'm forcing them to be in our gear and they have to
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  adhere to certain things. I mean, most of them are in my
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  gear because they, you know, they want to actually be in the
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  gear. They want to stand out.
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  They want to have something different than everybody else
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  and they know that we, you know, we're going to take care of them
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  really, really well. So it's it's almost, it's work,
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  but it's not work because it's like hanging out with a bunch of
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  friends at a more professional track day Is, is the way I look
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  at it. OK, that's what's up, man.
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  Doing a lot. I, I like it.
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  I, you know, I heard the model part and I, I figure I should
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  let you know, man, if you ever need someone in front of the
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  camera, man, you know, you know, I, I guess.
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  You know, kind of in that same breath right there, that that
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  photo that's right there behind me that is for the 50th
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  anniversary Goldwing. And I was the stunt rider in the
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  model for the 50th anniversary Goldwing for the entire world.
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  So the global launching campaign, I was the rider for
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  that thing. So that that's.
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  So I should dream bigger what you're saying?
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  Yeah. And I, and then that's one of
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  the reasons why we're most likely going to miss Barber as
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  well is because we have another product launched in Texas during
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  that same weekend that I, that I'm obligated to be at.
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  So yeah, it's, you know, duty calls type deal.
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  Oh yeah, man. Listen, man, these we, we all
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  know it. Let's talk about Moto GPS off
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  for a little bit Well, we're all I got.
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  I got to look at the calendar for old super bike.
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  I think they're off for a little bit too.
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  Pretty wild not I'll say yeah. So they don't come back until
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  May 5th for Moto GP, the French round.
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  There's been some testing at 850CC bike going on right now
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  and stuff like that. A lot of silly talk with just
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  the different contracts and, and and so forth.
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  But let's talk about the bike situation.
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  Let's talk about Yamaha 1st and, and we'll go through them.
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  Is it much to expect from from these bikes at this point?
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  Is is it too early in the season to to to start thinking about
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  next year as far as what to expect from the 850CC bikes or
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  at this level like it matters from like the day before day one
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  you start high high Rev. Yeah. I think, I think you're kind of
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  seeing that happen now. I think Ducati is kind of
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  pivoted and maybe it's starting to work towards 2027 and that's
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  why we're not seeing the same type of performance we did in
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  years past. And Apria is on the gas, right.
• 16:57
  So I think some of these other OEMs see blood in the water and
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  are taking advantage of that and continue to develop, while the
• 17:05
  bigger OEMs are already looking to the future.
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  They're looking, you know, in the windshield instead of the
• 17:09
  rearview mirror. Got you.
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  What are your thoughts on that Reese?
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  You know, is, is Yamaha they did or as he said, Ducati just
• 17:19
  looking towards the future and which is which is tough for us
• 17:22
  as fan to watch because the yeah, the struggle's been real
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  since last year for every every rider except for the Marquez
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  brothers last year. What are your thoughts man?
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  I mean, actually, I think, I think that these guys are
• 17:37
  actually trying to look towards the future and kind of got their
• 17:40
  foot out the gas. I know Yamaha did already, you
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  know, so I mean, the other manufacturers that haven't been
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  there, they're, they're looking at it and trying to take
• 17:48
  advantage of it and trying to get that win.
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  And I just think that they're actually looking at the future
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  because the 8:50 is a different kind of a different animal in
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  itself going from 1000 back down to the 8:50.
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  So it's a new whole new era and no one has kind of data.
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  So it's just, you know, it's the last year of it.
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  So what I mean, what are we really gaining from these 1000
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  anymore? It's time to look to towards the
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  future. Right.
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  So you agree that it's they should just just put out what
• 18:16
  they have and just maintain versus going to the to the end
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  because it seems like Aprilia, they're trying to sit here and
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  say, yeah, we might be able to steal one.
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  I mean, actually they, they can steal one.
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  I mean, and you're trying, it's no more development of the 1000
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  because what are you going to get and you can't progress into
• 18:33
  the next year because you're actually going back now to 850.
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  So it's really not progressing. It's really kind of try to start
• 18:40
  working on the 8:50 or hey, leave what we have.
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  We can kind of modify it a little bit, but let's worry
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  about more of the 8:50. Got you, got you, Lewis, man.
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  What are your thoughts, man? I mean, is it more value in what
• 18:53
  these guys are saying or is it better to sustain, you know, the
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  peats, you know, as far as you know?
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  I mean, they've been winning now since 21.
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  It would be nice for Ducati to win all the way up until they
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  switch to 850. I mean, I know it's only three
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  rounds. I'm not calling them out, but
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  the struggle is real at the moment.
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  Yeah, the struggle is real. But I mean, if if you look at
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  who's struggling and the kinds of struggle, it's not like
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  Ducati fell off a Cliff, you know, it's not like they
• 19:22
  completely went back to zero. Marquez is struggling because
• 19:26
  he's still dealing with injuries.
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  But when, you know, when he's able to get out and actually
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  ride, I mean, he can still ride the wheels off the bike.
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  It's just, you know, he's dealing with injuries.
• 19:35
  Bagnaya showed some speed, but Bagnaya's not been consistent
• 19:39
  for almost a year and a half now.
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  So for him to even get into the top three is is a win in itself.
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  Alex, I think he's I think he's kind of checked out, man.
• 19:50
  I think he's got that KTM deal in his back pocket.
• 19:52
  He's like, hey, I just need to get through this year and next
• 19:55
  year I'll be a factory rider. So that let me not overextend
• 19:57
  myself, maybe get hurt this year and start next season, you know,
• 20:02
  in a bad situation with KTMI. Mean Fermin Aldeguerre is coming
• 20:06
  back from injury. More Videli is more Videli and
• 20:11
  the Chan Antonio is right up front with Petco and with Mark.
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  So it's it, you know, it's not like they're finishing with the
• 20:17
  Yamahas in the back. It's just the Aprilia.
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  The the two Aprilia guys in the Aprilia package just is a little
• 20:23
  bit better. Do I think they're going to
• 20:25
  throw their hands up and just walk away from this year and not
• 20:27
  try to win? Absolutely not, man.
• 20:29
  There's, you know, there's a lot going on every single race.
• 20:32
  There's money involved, there's sponsorship money involved,
• 20:36
  there's renewal of contracts. I mean, they want to win.
• 20:38
  Everybody wants to win. Nobody shows up because they
• 20:40
  like, you know, finishing last. So I don't think Ducati is going
• 20:44
  to throw up their hands and walk away and just give this to
• 20:47
  Aprilia. I think as Mark gets healthier,
• 20:50
  did you continue to be consistent up in the top five
• 20:55
  and Peko can kind of get his stuff together?
• 20:57
  I think Ducati is going to be right up at front battling with
• 21:00
  Aprilia. I mean, Marco Buzzeki is not
• 21:03
  going to continue this this run that he's on indefinitely.
• 21:07
  I mean, nobody can, nobody can continue, you know, win every
• 21:10
  single lap, every single race for so many races in a row.
• 21:14
  I mean, if you think about when this streak started, it started
• 21:18
  when he took out Marc Marquez. Then all of a sudden he became
• 21:22
  an incredible rider. Why?
• 21:23
  Because the best rider in the world, he took him out and now
• 21:26
  he was, you know, he had nobody else on his level and he's still
• 21:29
  recovering from injury. You know, I don't think he's
• 21:32
  he's a very good rider. He's a competent rider.
• 21:34
  I think Martinez is also a very competent rider who is also
• 21:37
  coming back from injury. But I don't think they're going
• 21:40
  to run away with this. I think they're going to be
• 21:42
  very, very competitive against Ducati, probably the most
• 21:44
  competitive bike against Ducati since Ducati kind of came into
• 21:48
  this dominance that they're in right now.
• 21:52
  OK, OK. All right, I think.
• 21:56
  Yeah, but you got to remember there, there has been a streak
• 21:59
  before I think Mark, what did ten in a row, eleven in a row.
• 22:03
  So. It's not impossible.
• 22:06
  And Mark, but Mark did it. I would say Mark did it against
• 22:08
  better competition than Begnaia than Bizecki's doing it against
• 22:12
  right now. That's true, yeah.
• 22:14
  Yeah, you know, I mean, think about who Mark did it against.
• 22:17
  Jorge Jorge Lorenzo, Valentino Rossi, Danny Pedrosa, Who's Peko
• 22:24
  is doing it against. I mean, who's aliens anymore?
• 22:27
  Yeah, who's Bizecki doing it against Pekko?
• 22:29
  Who's got the consistency of wet diarrhea?
• 22:32
  You've got Martine. That will be a great if you put
• 22:35
  him on a great bike because he can't set up a bike to save his
• 22:38
  life. So guess what?
• 22:39
  I made the bike great last year. So you get to jump on a bike and
• 22:42
  benefit from what I did last year.
• 22:43
  Let's not talk about him, but. Here you go, Martine.
• 22:46
  He does have the skill set. I mean, come on, you.
• 22:49
  Can't set up a bike to save his life.
• 22:51
  You have to give him a bike that works.
• 22:53
  We could probably say the same thing about Marquez with that
• 22:55
  too, right? And Marquez?
• 22:56
  They build bikes around Marquez and.
• 22:59
  And and and we become unrideable to a the the the bikes and.
• 23:04
  That's how good he is. He can actually ride a bike
• 23:07
  nobody else can ride. I mean, you know.
• 23:09
  Team can only ride a bike if every single bolt is torqued
• 23:11
  down to the exact specs he needs.
• 23:14
  I'm just saying, I mean, Martine is closer to a Lorenzo, right?
• 23:18
  I mean, there's Lorenzo. Hell no.
• 23:20
  Hell no. He's closer to a, He's closer to
• 23:24
  he. Have when he won the title come
• 23:26
  on I mean I know there's a lot more rounds for sure, but come
• 23:29
  on man that dude had a lot of wins when he won the title he.
• 23:31
  He's not an alien man and. And he even a.
• 23:34
  Pedrosa. Yeah, that means a squid ain't
• 23:36
  no alien. I would say, I would say if
• 23:38
  anything he's he's maybe closer to a Pedrosa.
• 23:41
  Be getting hurt. Getting hurt, definitely getting
• 23:45
  hurt. The only difference between
• 23:46
  Petrosa is he's been able to walk away with 1 championship,
• 23:49
  but it was a championship that was won because nobody wanted to
• 23:52
  win it. Every other weekend, him and
• 23:54
  Petco took turns crashing out. I'm OK with, I'm OK with Martin
• 23:58
  being a Petrosa. That's, that's respectable.
• 24:01
  I mean, come on. That's that's you know.
• 24:02
  That's instead of Lorenzo I. Mean, come on, we'll take it.
• 24:11
  Let's talk about KTM because since we, we are we all we
• 24:14
  started with Yamaha, well, we started with Ducati, but for KTM
• 24:19
  right now it seems like Acosta is leaving.
• 24:21
  So do you think KTM is doing, you know, what manufacturers
• 24:25
  have done in the past holding the secret sauce back because
• 24:28
  the ride is not going to be there next year?
• 24:30
  Or you do you think KTM is again, maybe sitting here
• 24:32
  saying, well, we got we got Acosta is pretty close, even
• 24:36
  though he hates us, but he's riding like he loves us.
• 24:39
  Abashinini. He's now starting to figure
• 24:41
  himself. I mean, listen, you know, say
• 24:43
  what you want about Vignalas, but like I got to I got at least
• 24:46
  got one screw in my hand and sometimes I think it's moving.
• 24:49
  So I mean to get that fixed and and, and if he can come back
• 24:53
  right, Well, he got like 3 weeks off.
• 24:55
  So realistically, if Rossi can come back with broken his
• 24:57
  breaking his leg in two places back quicker.
• 25:00
  You know, you might you might have three guys in KTM that can
• 25:04
  say, hey, wait a second, Aprilia, we we might be able to
• 25:07
  steal this one too. What are your thoughts?
• 25:09
  High Ref Trev. Yeah, man, I think they've lost
• 25:13
  some of that top speed because they've been the fastest, right?
• 25:15
  And you saw a Coda that the Aprilia was just motor and buy
• 25:19
  them. I think Luis hit the nail on the
• 25:21
  head when when Alex gets over there, he's going over there for
• 25:25
  the money. Let's not kid ourselves.
• 25:27
  He has the Red Bull contract and he doesn't have that that Ducati
• 25:32
  money with the Grassini team and stuff like that.
• 25:34
  So when he goes over there, he's getting all that paycheck and
• 25:37
  he's going to be able to do something with KTM for sure, I
• 25:40
  think. But they got to get the top
• 25:42
  speed back. But it's another one of those
• 25:44
  companies whether I don't know if they're going to invest into
• 25:47
  the 1000 anymore. I think they're going to invest
• 25:50
  in the riders and get these guys that they need to be able to
• 25:54
  compete for the following season.
• 25:55
  They're going to get the Alex Marquez and some of those other
• 25:57
  cats, Pedroza going or not Pedroza, Acosta going away.
• 26:04
  You know, that's that's a big deal.
• 26:05
  They they, they got to keep him. But who knows man, right?
• 26:10
  Right, right. I Reese, man, what happened to
• 26:12
  the days where somebody will build something and it's a one
• 26:15
  off and it don't matter how much it costs and they're going to
• 26:18
  keep building it. I mean from a from a, from a,
• 26:21
  from a tuning point, from a, you know, mechanical standpoint and
• 26:27
  KTM, man, come on, They they should be doing something right.
• 26:29
  Do you agree with the situation or you think you just move on
• 26:31
  from a business standpoint? In the days of a one off is
• 26:37
  going like the 70s, but but I don't know man, I mean with with
• 26:44
  them losing Acosta, that's a big hit.
• 26:46
  You know what I mean? That's that's a real big hit.
• 26:49
  KTMI don't know what they're doing.
• 26:51
  I mean I disagree with you there with all three.
• 26:54
  I mean Bastinini, I mean he's had one round.
• 26:57
  I mean he looked real good and I still give him one.
• 27:02
  It's just. 3 rounds and and he was nice on the Ducati before
• 27:07
  you know, you know he got hurt. Sun shines on a dog's ass every
• 27:10
  once in a while. I'm tough, you know me, I'm
• 27:14
  tough. I'm tough but I mean bassinet
• 27:18
  and me he he's he's showing a little bit of light vinyalis.
• 27:23
  I'm. I'm saying by.
• 27:24
  Summer break by summer break, right?
• 27:26
  If these guys are top 8 by summer break.
• 27:29
  Stick a fork in Vinyalis, man. It's over.
• 27:32
  It's over. It's it's time to move on.
• 27:35
  It's time to maybe world Super Bike, just like more of a deli,
• 27:38
  something else. This GP is not working for you.
• 27:41
  It's I don't know what's going on with him.
• 27:43
  He's very, very, very, very inconsistent.
• 27:46
  I mean, I've been that way since Yamaha days with him.
• 27:48
  He's just very, very inconsistent.
• 27:50
  Some days he's hot, some days he's not.
• 27:52
  The man got listen with Aprilia. The man was on fire.
• 27:56
  They did it. They made a decision without
• 27:58
  consulting the man and the man said I'm out now with KTM.
• 28:02
  The man just got hurt. He was the fastest KTM last year
• 28:05
  until he got hurt. Come on man.
• 28:07
  Like, you can't just, you can't just say the man was dusty.
• 28:10
  I'm I'm like Janet Jackson, man. What have you done for me
• 28:13
  lately? Come on man.
• 28:14
  Listen man, we what I was. Going to say I'm sorry.
• 28:19
  I'm sorry man, I'm sorry. It's just.
• 28:21
  That is the lately though, like he, he, he was nice for KTM last
• 28:25
  year until he got hurt and, and you know, I mean, the man's
• 28:29
  trying to come back and he bought some fears in the
• 28:32
  company. OK.
• 28:33
  But I mean, we can say that about Rens.
• 28:35
  Rens was good until he got hurt and that he never recovered from
• 28:38
  that injury. He still limps around from that
• 28:40
  injury. Yeah, but he just.
• 28:42
  Got out this past weekend, you know what I'm saying?
• 28:44
  Let's let's say I said summer. Break.
• 28:47
  Nah, I mean if he shows me some some light after summer break
• 28:51
  then I can see it. But I mean, I don't see it with
• 28:54
  Vinales and I think Acosta is just pretty much mentally
• 28:58
  checked out. I think Acosta's like I'm done.
• 29:01
  Like I'm already in a. He can't be done in 3rd in the
• 29:04
  championship and leading the championship after he's not
• 29:06
  done, he's fighting. He's not, I'm not saying he's
• 29:09
  not done. He's going to fight to the end.
• 29:11
  But as far as you know, want to do anything more with KTM
• 29:16
  afterwards, he has it's it's, it's, it's going to push.
• 29:20
  I mean, every ride is going to push to the end because they
• 29:21
  want to win the championship. There's an opportunity to win.
• 29:24
  He's they're going to take it. So he's going to want to take
• 29:27
  the the time to win. But as far as anything else
• 29:30
  afterwards, yeah, he's, you could tell he's not.
• 29:33
  And he's like, yeah, I ain't. No, I'm leaving.
• 29:35
  Lewis, come on man. When you look at the numbers,
• 29:37
  you got to see these three guys may be able to pull it off at
• 29:40
  KTM. I mean, Acosta definitely has
• 29:42
  the best chance to pull it off this year for KTM than anybody
• 29:46
  else, but he won't be there next year.
• 29:48
  Like, that's a, that's a, that's a guarantee unless, unless
• 29:51
  something dramatic happens and the Brinks truck quadruples in
• 29:55
  size when it comes up his driveway, I don't see him
• 29:58
  staying at KTM on Vinales's side.
• 30:01
  I got it. You know, I will say Vinales has
• 30:03
  been hurt. Vinales pulled out of the last
• 30:07
  round because he started having pains again.
• 30:09
  He went back. I think he just got a different
• 30:12
  operation or some sort of scope on his shoulder, and so now he's
• 30:18
  got to go through the rehab and everything again to get his
• 30:20
  shoulder back in shape. And Vinales is a lot like a lot
• 30:23
  of these other guys. Vinales isn't 19 or 21 anymore.
• 30:26
  People don't realize Vinales has been doing this for a hot
• 30:29
  minute. 2015. And as soon as you start
• 30:32
  getting, as soon as you start getting to that, that three in
• 30:35
  the front of your birthday, like how many years you've been
• 30:37
  around 30, it it hurts and takes a little bit longer to heal.
• 30:43
  And you know it. You don't, you know, undefeated
• 30:46
  father times undefeated. With that said, I still think if
• 30:49
  he recovers, if he gets back, if he gets his strength back, he's
• 30:52
  still a dynamic rider. And if Acosta leaves, he still
• 30:55
  has an opportunity at KTM to be their number one rider, even
• 31:00
  with Alex Marquez coming in. Alex Marquez has shown flashes
• 31:03
  of brilliance, but you know, Vinales has been at the front
• 31:07
  for a long time on multiple different manufacturers.
• 31:11
  He's won on multiple different manufacturers.
• 31:14
  You know, he's, I believe if he wins with KTM, he'll be the
• 31:17
  first rider to ever win on three different manufacturers.
• 31:21
  So it's, you know, I think he's he's got a lot to show for.
• 31:25
  He's still got a lot to go. I think Acosta is going to be
• 31:28
  out. I think the biggest problem KTM
• 31:30
  is going to have is KTM always relate on horsepower and now
• 31:34
  they don't have the horsepower anymore.
• 31:35
  When they go to the A50 CCS, they're not going to be the
• 31:38
  fastest bike down the straightaway.
• 31:39
  So they got to figure out how to fix all the issues they have
• 31:42
  with the bike, whether it's stability and braking, stability
• 31:46
  and turning. And they know how to make a race
• 31:48
  bike. I mean, they win in Moto 2, they
• 31:49
  win in Moto 3. For some reason, as soon as they
• 31:52
  put that big motor into their bike, they just can't put all
• 31:56
  the pieces together. So either they need to hire some
• 31:58
  outside engineer or replace some of the people that are working
• 32:02
  in the garage with some people from winning factories.
• 32:05
  You know, I hate to say it, but maybe you got to poach a couple
• 32:08
  people from Aprilia or poach a couple of people from Ducati and
• 32:12
  try to bring some of that magic over here.
• 32:13
  I mean, Ducati wasn't Ducati until they poached somebody from
• 32:16
  Aprilia and then all of a sudden the Ducati became this de facto
• 32:20
  great bike. Why they they poached Gigi
• 32:22
  Delegia from Aprilia because he was dominated in the world.
• 32:26
  Super bike under RSV 4. Right, right.
• 32:28
  Yeah. So with with Vignalas, didn't he
• 32:33
  win on the KTM on the tire pressure or was that a second
• 32:36
  place he got and then they took it away I.
• 32:38
  Think it was a second place and they took it away from him.
• 32:42
  So at least he was on the podium.
• 32:43
  I think I. Think he's won on three.
• 32:46
  I think he's won and it happened a couple.
• 32:48
  Years ago, yeah, he went on Suzuki, he went on, he went on
• 32:51
  Yamaha, Yamaha and he went on the Prolia.
• 32:54
  He hasn't won on the KTM. Yet he wasn't on the KTM.
• 32:57
  He'd be the first guy to do 4. But he'd been on the podium and
• 32:59
  they took his. Got to do.
• 33:00
  Four. Yeah, I think he's gotten 3.
• 33:02
  Though, just a second, people in my ear telling me, you know,
• 33:10
  let's talk about these silly rumors, man.
• 33:12
  I mean, you know, I, I hear that Bassionini maybe going to
• 33:16
  Grassini, going back to Grassini alongside Alonzo, you know, is
• 33:23
  that a good look for Bassionini or just he should be happy to be
• 33:27
  in the league in, in the, in the Moto GP paddock?
• 33:31
  Or is this like this should be another factory team, whether
• 33:34
  you know, Yamaha or someone else should pick up Bastardini
• 33:37
  because I mean, the man's nice. I mean, you know, and I mean,
• 33:40
  granted he didn't get enough time on the KTM.
• 33:42
  So I don't, you know, that KTM has a bad habit of keeping
• 33:46
  people one year, 2 year. They did it to Ika, they did it
• 33:49
  to Remy, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:51
  They did it to one of the Lowe's brothers, Sam Lowe's, you know.
• 33:56
  Yeah, but they got Brad Bender that they've kept around for
• 34:00
  probably too long. Now, I mean, you know, I mean, I
• 34:05
  wonder about that. But like, wait, why do you think
• 34:07
  that is, Trev? No clue, no clue.
• 34:11
  I scratch my head every every Sunday, every week.
• 34:14
  Rick's weekend on why is Brad Bender still in the paddock?
• 34:17
  Why is why is Alex Ren still in the paddock?
• 34:21
  You know, because it's one thing if your results aren't there and
• 34:25
  you're marketable, right? Like a Jack Miller, a top rack,
• 34:30
  you know, a Zarko, you know those guys are marketable.
• 34:33
  So the sponsors love them regardless of their results.
• 34:37
  You know, you almost have to even question like a mirror,
• 34:40
  like why the hell are we at Honda still keeping mirror
• 34:42
  around do crashes more than anybody?
• 34:45
  You know, with 0 results, there's not even a flash of
• 34:47
  brilliance anytime. So yeah, man, that that's the
• 34:51
  one I scratch my head at all the time.
• 34:53
  It's like, dude, why? Why are some of these cats still
• 34:55
  there? Do they got some daddy big bucks
• 34:58
  that are bringing in money or, you know, are they helping out
• 35:01
  the team somehow? Or are they bringing a sponsor
• 35:03
  in? And I don't see Ren's bringing
• 35:05
  in a sponsor. I don't see some of these other
• 35:07
  cats bringing in a sponsor that's going to help the team
• 35:09
  out. So I don't know, man.
• 35:11
  Yeah, maybe they just drop off suitcases and suitcases of
• 35:14
  money. They don't ask me the question
• 35:16
  because, you know, we, they just cover the cost.
• 35:20
  What are your thoughts, Reese, man?
• 35:21
  I mean, you know, why, why, why is KTM not keeping Bastianini
• 35:25
  and you know, for Bastiani going back to Grazini where he made
• 35:29
  this to the factory and he's not ready to come out of Moto GP
• 35:32
  factory seat yet. No, he's not ready to come out
• 35:35
  of the GP seat yet. He's still, he still has some
• 35:38
  time left. I mean, he still can do some
• 35:41
  work in there and, you know, give him the right, you know,
• 35:44
  team, the right bike, the right people behind him to support and
• 35:49
  he can actually put some work in, you know, so he's one that,
• 35:54
  you know, I don't know why they're getting rid of.
• 35:56
  You know, like, like high Rev says, you know, it's some of
• 35:59
  these guys that are still there. It's just like why?
• 36:03
  It's all politics. And it's just like it is like he
• 36:06
  says, it's all marketable. How much, how much of a bag are
• 36:09
  you bringing in and helping the teams to, you know, sponsorships
• 36:13
  and whatever you're bringing in? And those guys, a lot of those
• 36:17
  guys aren't in aren't marketable anymore.
• 36:19
  They're just there is it's kind of over and know it.
• 36:21
  Jack Miller, everyone, you know, everyone's talk so bad about
• 36:25
  Jack and say Jack, I'm like, no, Jack is a crowd pleaser.
• 36:28
  He's a crowd favorite. He brings in money.
• 36:30
  You know, I actually spoke to Jack at the airport when we were
• 36:33
  leaving AGP and to see the the guy, you know, come down the the
• 36:39
  outside of the track after the race and just ride by the fans
• 36:43
  and going to the pit, that tells you something on who Jack is.
• 36:47
  You know, So I, I just don't understand why would you get rid
• 36:51
  of somebody as far let somebody as far as Bassini go and, you
• 36:55
  know, not keep him and try to, you know, have him on one of
• 36:59
  your top bikes. And you know me personally, you
• 37:02
  know, like I said, if Vinales doesn't come back healthy, I
• 37:05
  mean Vinales and Brad Bender will be gone and you know,
• 37:08
  bringing, you know, Bassini and Alex in there and then see what
• 37:11
  they can do. And then you'll have two
• 37:13
  markable guys, two guys that can ride and put some work in so.
• 37:19
  I agree with that, man. I, I, I like that lineup.
• 37:21
  Keep bashing any Lewis. I know you're crunching the
• 37:24
  numbers. I mean, sometimes it's nice just
• 37:26
  to keep an artist around that has a good voice.
• 37:29
  That may not sell a lot of records because a lot of people
• 37:32
  don't understand it, but man, when you listen to it, it sure
• 37:36
  sounds good. Yeah, but even good artists
• 37:39
  eventually start to show their age and lose some of their
• 37:42
  value. I mean, I, I'd love Phil
• 37:44
  Collins, but I wouldn't go see him in concert today.
• 37:48
  My man can barely walk, you know?
• 37:49
  I mean, there comes a moment where you lose your value you no
• 37:52
  matter how valuable you think you are.
• 37:54
  Right, right. But now is, is that the people
• 37:56
  behind the desk making that that that that choice?
• 38:00
  Or is it actually the artist? Because people behind the desk,
• 38:04
  they. So here's the thing.
• 38:05
  Fans would like to think they're the ones making the choice
• 38:08
  because they're a fan favorite. Fan favorite doesn't mean shit.
• 38:13
  If I'm spending three and a half, $1,000,000 to put you on a
• 38:15
  bike and you're not giving me any results.
• 38:19
  You know, at the end of the day, results are what matter.
• 38:22
  You could be a fan favorite all you want.
• 38:24
  Are you bringing money to my team?
• 38:26
  Because let's, let's look at Honda a couple years back when
• 38:32
  they had a different line up, they had, what's the gentleman's
• 38:38
  name, the English gentleman. Cal Crutchlow.
• 38:43
  Cal Crutchlow, Kyle Crutchlow always complained about the fact
• 38:47
  that he was on a satellite bike and they were always asking him
• 38:50
  to bring more sponsors and if he brought more sponsors they would
• 38:53
  put better equipment on his bike.
• 38:56
  So they had him Honda out had him out there on shitty Showa
• 39:00
  suspension cause a Honda is a owner of Showa or a majority
• 39:04
  owner of Showa. And he said I needed Olin's
• 39:06
  suspension. And his team told him, well,
• 39:08
  then bring us money for Olin's parts.
• 39:11
  Some of these guys do have financial backing that help them
• 39:14
  stay in racing. You know, don't think that it's
• 39:17
  talent alone. You know, the Lowe's brothers,
• 39:20
  one of the Lowe's brothers just happens to be married to the
• 39:22
  daughter of the owner of a team. They're talented guys.
• 39:26
  But their their crash receipt for the past 10 years, you could
• 39:30
  build a new factory to build Ducatis with all the parts that
• 39:34
  they've crashed in you. Know trying to get a divorce?
• 39:37
  Yeah, it's it's time for a divorce.
• 39:39
  So some of these guys are there because of popularity.
• 39:42
  Some of these guys are there because of talent and
• 39:44
  popularity. And some of these guys are there
• 39:46
  because of popularity and money with a hint of talent.
• 39:50
  Because let's be honest, there's been some people that have
• 39:52
  gotten the Moto GP that you're like, how'd that guy get a Moto
• 39:56
  GP? That guy sucks.
• 39:57
  Remember that one year that guy bought 11 ride like he and and
• 40:02
  everybody? Well, Rossi was just kind of
• 40:03
  like you. Kind of got.
• 40:04
  To earn it. Yeah, well, if it's dangerous.
• 40:08
  I mean I can't remember the gentleman's name right now, but
• 40:12
  he his father owned the track in.
• 40:18
  I think his father owned Bruno and he was one of the original
• 40:24
  ART bikes. So these were like the modified
• 40:27
  St. engines on the OR CRT bikes. He sucked but his father owned a
• 40:36
  track and had a shit ton of money so guess what his son that
• 40:40
  barely did well in Moto 2 got a Moto GP ride and stayed in Moto
• 40:43
  GP for many years until his dad was like I'm not voting that.
• 40:46
  Anymore, Carol Abraham. Carol Abraham, there you go.
• 40:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carl Abraham.
• 40:51
  Yeah. His dad owns a track.
• 40:56
  So you going to tell somebody that owns a track that you go
• 40:59
  to? We're not going to let your son
• 41:01
  ride. He.
• 41:04
  Didn't deserve that ride, but he stayed in Moto GP for how many
• 41:08
  years? Because again, his dad kept
• 41:09
  floating as soon as as soon as daddy cut the wallet off.
• 41:12
  Where's Kyle Abraham now? Right now driving a U PS: truck.
• 41:16
  Nah, man. He's probably not.
• 41:17
  I mean he's he's secret if you don't need to drive AUP.
• 41:20
  What's wrong with driving a UPS? Truck man, it's it's hyperbole.
• 41:23
  It's called hyperbole. It's Google Pagula Gula,
• 41:27
  something like that. Her dad owns the the Sabers and
• 41:30
  the Bills, and she plays. She doesn't have to grind out
• 41:32
  the in on the pro circuit, but he's not been grinding, you
• 41:36
  know? Yeah, he's that tie rider that
• 41:39
  Petronas sponsored. It wasn't Chantry, it's somebody
• 41:42
  else, but it was same, same scenario.
• 41:43
  Yeah, same scenario they come with.
• 41:45
  If you come with enough money you can and and just the right
• 41:48
  amount of talent, you can find your way into the Moto DV
• 41:51
  paddock. Yeah, just like you can find
• 41:54
  your way into any paddock. For sure.
• 41:57
  You know, that's just what it is.
• 42:00
  There's, there's five or six guys right now in Moto GP that
• 42:03
  don't need to be in Moto GP. Either they're too old, they're
• 42:07
  too slow, or they're just not bringing any results.
• 42:09
  But for some reason or other, they're still in Moto GP because
• 42:12
  either they have money that they're bringing with them.
• 42:15
  So some of the satellite teams, especially satellite teams, are
• 42:17
  always looking for extra money. They'll be more than willing to
• 42:20
  keep dragging along a dead body as long as the check clears.
• 42:24
  Yep, there's a couple of guys that are Paddock that does the
• 42:27
  same thing. Yeah, and bring in money.
• 42:30
  Every padding, there's those guys that don't have the top
• 42:33
  level talent, but they got the top level wallet and they'll
• 42:36
  keep getting the rides that everybody else kind of doesn't
• 42:39
  get because, you know, money buys a little bit more than just
• 42:43
  goodwill. So let me let me say this guys,
• 42:46
  right, because it's this that's been going on from, you know,
• 42:50
  not not necessary pre NASCAR, but that's been going on for a
• 42:54
  long time. You paying for the ride, right.
• 42:56
  So is this a situation where and I there's two-part questions
• 43:00
  really is is this good for the sport in general?
• 43:02
  But it's been going on for so long as well.
• 43:04
  So this is kind of the only way that we know because it it you
• 43:09
  know, you had something like that came off the streets
• 43:12
  essentially that that now we we're doing that a gazillion
• 43:16
  dollar industry, you know, globally, you know, or you know,
• 43:20
  globally. So I mean, is this good for the
• 43:21
  sport should do something that should be changed.
• 43:25
  Can we change? I mean, I saw we saw what
• 43:27
  Michael Jordan did with NASCAR. So we can't say can't.
• 43:30
  Well, you. Can't say baseball.
• 43:37
  Yeah, man, I don't, I don't know.
• 43:40
  You know, the racing business is exactly what it is we're in.
• 43:43
  We're in the entertainment business when you really kind of
• 43:46
  look into it and we're there to sell product.
• 43:49
  Well, you know, when on Sunday, sell on Monday type deals kind
• 43:52
  of the idea. But it's just getting the eyes
• 43:54
  on your product and that's where the kind of sponsorship comes in
• 43:57
  from. And that's why we got guys in
• 43:58
  the paddock that necessarily don't belong there.
• 44:01
  Shit, you can even say I'm one of them.
• 44:03
  But I'm pretty good marketing. We got good results, but are we
• 44:06
  going to beat JD? Hell no.
• 44:08
  You know we're not going to. We're going to be fighting for
• 44:10
  maybe a top 15, a top 12 on a good day.
• 44:14
  If it's raining, we'll be maybe a little bit further up.
• 44:16
  But no man, it's money. Money talks, man, and it doesn't
• 44:20
  matter what the industry is, what the sport is, money brings
• 44:24
  everything. You can even look at boxing, you
• 44:26
  know, Jake Paul freaking crap shows, you know, look how much
• 44:31
  money that stuff brings in. And and it's not even a real
• 44:33
  sport, you know, it's all fixed. So it's, it's kind of the same
• 44:37
  way with with our sport. We're no different.
• 44:40
  We're not immune to to having sponsors and needing the money.
• 44:44
  Hell, Moto America doesn't have any money.
• 44:45
  So they're going to take everybody they can to to try to
• 44:49
  fill up that paddock for sure. Gotcha.
• 44:51
  Gotcha. Well, we're seeing that with the
• 44:53
  rule changes for this year, so we're interested in how that
• 44:55
  plays out. Eris, what are your thoughts
• 44:57
  man? I mean, it's right.
• 45:03
  Money plays a big part part in this thing, man.
• 45:06
  I mean, it's like what they say money makes the world go round.
• 45:10
  I mean, do I think they'll ever change it?
• 45:12
  No. You know, I've been seeing it
• 45:14
  for a long time. I've been in that paddock what
• 45:17
  now 12 years. And you can see it in certain
• 45:21
  aspects, certain smaller teams or anything like that.
• 45:23
  Money does make the world go round and it's it's never going
• 45:26
  to change. It's always going to be the
• 45:28
  same. But it's, you know, they're
• 45:30
  trying to take on any, every sponsor.
• 45:32
  Jordan did it, though. He changed NASCAR.
• 45:35
  That's. Jordan.
• 45:36
  I know, but so we can't say never.
• 45:38
  We just got to find a Georgia motorcycle racing.
• 45:40
  You know what I'm saying, but that's a different story.
• 45:43
  But I'm just saying that like last car was like that for a
• 45:46
  long time and those dudes were whatever happened in that
• 45:49
  courtroom like that. If there's any video, anything
• 45:53
  that's a gazillion that's worth a lot because these dudes walked
• 45:57
  in their saying ain't never, never, never, never, never,
• 45:59
  never and came out and said and they all they let they let
• 46:02
  Jordan talk on, just nodded at their head with him.
• 46:05
  I don't know what he did in that room, bro, but we seen that and
• 46:09
  now a lot of other teams are eating because of that, right.
• 46:11
  So I mean it is might be possible.
• 46:14
  Don't know what's all I'm trying to say.
• 46:15
  I mean, it might be possible, but I mean it it's going to take
• 46:18
  somebody of that caliber and that nature to put a change into
• 46:23
  it. And at this point in time, we
• 46:25
  don't have anybody like that. I mean somebody that has that
• 46:28
  kind of backing, someone that kind of that kind of funding,
• 46:31
  that kind of power, that kind of nature.
• 46:33
  I mean we just don't have it. So it's going to be that way for
• 46:38
  a long time before we see a change.
• 46:40
  And, and he's also coming out more too, because we see him
• 46:42
  being being interviewed a lot more than he's ever been
• 46:45
  interviewed ever. So I mean, he's also playing the
• 46:47
  part. So it's not like he didn't give
• 46:49
  up something. I'm pretty sure Lewis, man, you
• 46:51
  know, you 2 want to be in that room and in that courtroom and
• 46:54
  hear what went down or you know, as long as the cash is coming
• 46:58
  in, you don't really care where it's coming from.
• 47:00
  No, no, I saw, I saw the you know, I saw the recaps in the
• 47:03
  news of what went down in the courtroom.
• 47:05
  What down went down in the courtroom is he proved this
• 47:07
  point that, you know, NASCAR is fixed.
• 47:10
  NASCAR is designed to make sure that the people at the top make
• 47:13
  their money and that the people that are actually going out
• 47:16
  there and putting on the show are mitigated to what they're
• 47:19
  mitigated to. Like this is what the contract
• 47:21
  is. And he was able to show that,
• 47:24
  you know, there's a monopoly there.
• 47:25
  There's an inability for teams to be profitable and they the
• 47:30
  only ones that are being profitable is NASCAR.
• 47:32
  And he went in there and proved it.
• 47:33
  And that's that's what changed NASCAR.
• 47:35
  The thing is, how do you do that?
• 47:37
  I mean, you said we we need a Michael Jordan.
• 47:39
  We had a Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan used to race.
• 47:41
  And you know what he realized racing motorcycles sucks.
• 47:45
  You don't make any money. The people that run it, you
• 47:48
  know, are not really doing a great job at that time.
• 47:51
  And I, you know, sometimes I'm a little critical of Motor
• 47:54
  America. Even though I know the people
• 47:56
  that are working there, I'm still a little critical of them
• 47:58
  because I still think that there's a lot of things being
• 48:00
  left on the table by Motor America.
• 48:03
  And, you know, I don't know who to blame.
• 48:05
  I don't know if it's complacency that it's the same people that
• 48:08
  are running it year in and year out.
• 48:10
  I don't know if it's complacency and just not wanting to go in
• 48:13
  that extra mile and try to find new sponsors or find sponsors
• 48:18
  that are out-of-the-box or, you know, for them to kind of leave
• 48:21
  it on the rider's shoulders to go out there and find new
• 48:25
  sponsors. I mean, I look at the sponsors
• 48:27
  and every year it's the same list of sponsors minus maybe 10
• 48:31
  or 12 sponsors that are new for the year.
• 48:33
  It's always the same exact who's who of, you know, giving free
• 48:38
  stuff to racers or sponsoring racers.
• 48:41
  And you know, every year I get an e-mail from them as well,
• 48:44
  hey, do you want to sponsor this?
• 48:46
  Do you want to sponsor that? And then they send me the
• 48:48
  metrics and it's like, why? Why would I sponsor this?
• 48:52
  I mean, you know, you just finally now have ATV deal that's
• 48:55
  viable because for how many years you were just, you know,
• 48:58
  streaming on YouTube and streaming on your own app.
• 49:00
  Now you finally have ATV deal that's somewhat viable.
• 49:04
  Let's see how it plays out. But again, how is this money
• 49:07
  that you're making here helping all the people down the road?
• 49:11
  If only you're making money, if only you're bringing in money at
• 49:14
  the top. But it's not trickling down.
• 49:16
  It's, it's like the UFC, like right now there's a big push in
• 49:20
  the UFC because the UFC just sold their rights to Paramount
• 49:22
  for like $7 billion. But you got dudes that are
• 49:26
  fighting for 10,000 to show, 10,000 to win.
• 49:29
  Do you know how much it cost to train for three months or four
• 49:33
  months to go to a fight to prep, to then get 10,000 bucks to show
• 49:39
  and maybe 10,000 bucks to win? You know, some of these guys are
• 49:44
  on welfare. They're they're using, they're
• 49:45
  getting weak just so they can fight in the UFC.
• 49:48
  But the UFC just sold for $7 billion, right?
• 49:52
  Like, how does that make any kind of sense?
• 49:54
  And now the UFC is trying to, you know, get the Ali rule
• 49:57
  changed so they can push through and, and get into boxing again
• 50:01
  to these other sports. Like, yo, you've already, you
• 50:04
  know, you, you made a great product.
• 50:06
  Now you need to pay your athletes.
• 50:08
  Even the women in the NWNBA had got a raise.
• 50:11
  And, you know, I have to say it. I don't watch the WNBA, man.
• 50:14
  I've seen more, you know, I've seen less bricks thrown up
• 50:18
  putting the projects up in New York.
• 50:21
  Come on man. Real talk yo.
• 50:23
  Real. Talk.
• 50:24
  I've been Alphabet City, man. There's there's less bricks it
• 50:27
  took to put all of Alphabet City up in New York then one year of
• 50:31
  NBA. Players, I see that many
• 50:35
  persons. Man, I'm here for the heat.
• 50:37
  Anybody who does this disagrees with me, then go in the comments
• 50:40
  section. Come on, I got to disagree with
• 50:42
  you. I see him, Duncan.
• 50:45
  You see him, Duncan? Come on.
• 50:50
  Hey. I've seen that.
• 50:53
  I've seen a high score girl dunk.
• 50:54
  She's 62 and she's coming out of the sophomore.
• 50:57
  I'll send you the video. I'll say the last 10 years, the
• 51:00
  last 7-8 years of the MWNBA, it's been kind of fun to watch.
• 51:05
  That's all I got to say. I mean, is it where the NBA is
• 51:08
  at? No, they should be, they should
• 51:09
  be, they should be paid based on what they're bringing in.
• 51:12
  Like you say the number. I mean, and I and I, and I know
• 51:15
  they don't say that when, when like I'm, I'm not trying to turn
• 51:17
  that, that kind of show, but where they talk about pay me
• 51:20
  what you owe me kind of thing. It's just kind of like when you
• 51:23
  get them numbers, then they should pay you what you owe you,
• 51:25
  but you create them numbers. We can't pay you.
• 51:27
  That's not that's, that's EBT or whatever, Lewis.
• 51:30
  And here and here's the thing, Motor America viewership is
• 51:33
  limited by Motor America. If Motor America doesn't go out
• 51:37
  of their way to try to expand viewership, to try to find new
• 51:40
  avenues to promote themselves, then guess what?
• 51:43
  Everybody that rides in Motor America is limited by the
• 51:46
  exposure of Motor America. Is it my job as a rider to go
• 51:50
  out there and try to promote Motor America when Motor America
• 51:53
  isn't doing it themselves? No, I listen.
• 51:57
  I I. Agree.
• 51:58
  If that's the case, I'm going to get the money.
• 52:00
  I'm going to put it in my pocket.
• 52:01
  Hey, you want to be my sponsor? This is how much it's going to
• 52:03
  cost. As.
• 52:06
  A writer. I can tell you, Luis, Luis is
• 52:09
  dead on. He's dead on, man.
• 52:11
  I mean, we, we pay to be the clowns in the circus, you know,
• 52:16
  and you know, we're putting on the show and, and we legit pay
• 52:18
  to put on the show and the sponsors, you know, try to get
• 52:21
  exposure. And unfortunately, if there's
• 52:23
  not a bunch of extra content happening in the live show
• 52:27
  itself, we don't get that exposure.
• 52:29
  There's just not enough time in a 30 minute Sprint race.
• 52:33
  You know, super bike race is 32 minutes.
• 52:36
  You know, they don't they don't have enough time to go through
• 52:38
  the pack like they do in a three hour NASCAR race and and
• 52:41
  highlight somebody and talk about, you know, here's 10th
• 52:44
  through 15th battle and here's the next guy.
• 52:47
  They don't have time to go down and talk to a crew chief or
• 52:50
  somebody like that. There's just not enough time in
• 52:52
  the program. So unfortunately in that aspect,
• 52:55
  if that's where they're 99% of the riders, legit 99, they pay
• 53:01
  to be, and even the Hayden Gillums as well, they're paying
• 53:04
  to be there, you know, and we don't have a billionaire like we
• 53:07
  don't have a Michael Jordan. There's a couple millionaires in
• 53:09
  the paddock for sure, you know, but there's not a billionaire
• 53:12
  bringing in anything. So, but even the millionaires in
• 53:15
  the paddock, they're worried about their little circle inside
• 53:19
  the paddock. They're not really doing
• 53:21
  anything to expose to make that circle bigger.
• 53:24
  You know not. And if you look at some of those
• 53:26
  setups, they're, it looks like a freaking flea market.
• 53:29
  You know, you got all this money and, and it's set up like a, a
• 53:33
  damn flea market, man. Yeah, so, and again, this is
• 53:38
  maybe where Moto America can get involved and say, hey, these are
• 53:41
  the top 12 teams, here's what we would like you to do.
• 53:45
  We'll actually split some of the cost with you so there can be
• 53:48
  some uniformity in the way that we look.
• 53:51
  It's great that we have 10 rigs, but not every rig looks the
• 53:54
  same. Not every setup outside the rig
• 53:56
  look the same. Like there's some people that
• 53:58
  have great setups, beautiful rigs, everything like that.
• 54:01
  I'll give a tacky Yamaha a little bit of credit because I
• 54:03
  know Reese busts his ass putting that that that that kid up.
• 54:07
  They got, they got a nice little, you know, hospitality
• 54:11
  area. They've got their garage.
• 54:13
  You look at the, you know, the Harley-Davidson bagger team,
• 54:16
  they've got a beautiful set up. But then you look at some of
• 54:19
  these other teams, they have a rig and then behind the rig,
• 54:21
  they got a 10 by 10 or a 10 by 12 pop up canopy.
• 54:25
  Like, yo, what the hell is this man?
• 54:27
  You know, they're selling T-shirts out of a 10 by 10 next
• 54:30
  to their and it's like, yo, this is where Moto America can come
• 54:34
  together and say, hey, instead of all of you individually
• 54:36
  selling your T-shirts, we're going to make AT shirt booth
• 54:40
  like we do in Moto GP, all the T-shirts come to us.
• 54:43
  We sell all the T-shirts. We keep a small percentage just
• 54:46
  for the work of putting up the the, the one consolidated vendor
• 54:50
  area. And then we spread the money
• 54:53
  back based on the skews. So if you give me these skews,
• 54:55
  anything that sells in these skews at the end of the week,
• 54:58
  there's guys that didn't get paid for six months last year
• 55:00
  after wins for winning. I got 1099.
• 55:05
  I didn't get my check in private.
• 55:07
  Yeah, look at that. Like, that's crazy, man.
• 55:10
  That's crazy that you're a professional sports league and
• 55:13
  dudes are knocking on your door three months after they won.
• 55:16
  Like, Sarah, can I please have my food?
• 55:19
  I'm hungry. I'm hungry.
• 55:20
  What the? Fuck.
• 55:24
  This ain't Oliver Twist. I don't need more porridge.
• 55:26
  I need my porridge now. I won last week.
• 55:29
  I want my check this week. Yeah, because that's.
• 55:31
  What I won't show up next week? The.
• 55:33
  Entertainment was supercross or something like that.
• 55:35
  You know, same thing. Just just like how you were
• 55:37
  saying those those riders don't sell trucks for our T-shirts out
• 55:40
  of their truck. It's all in a merch truck.
• 55:44
  And if you want Tomac shirt, you want Hunter shirt, it's all
• 55:47
  right there. And you know what merch Motor
• 55:49
  America sells out of their truck?
• 55:50
  Motor American Merch. Yeah, and they give it away at
• 55:53
  the end of the year for $3 a piece.
• 55:54
  Yeah, Like, come on, man. Like there's there's little
• 55:58
  things that we could be done that would just bring a little
• 56:02
  bit more professionalism and help all the teams make a little
• 56:06
  bit more money. Even if it's a minimal amount.
• 56:08
  There's still just ways to make the show better, ways to make
• 56:12
  sure that every team gets a little bit more money, ways to
• 56:15
  bring everybody together so that there's more consolidation and
• 56:19
  that the wealth goes out. Because again, we, we want the
• 56:21
  paddock to be accessible to the fans.
• 56:24
  We want people to go up to a ride or be like, hey, can I take
• 56:27
  a picture with you? We want all these things, but we
• 56:29
  also need to look like we're professional.
• 56:32
  And right now it looks like a a a glorified club race in some in
• 56:36
  some areas. So in this what what I'm
• 56:39
  hearing, it sounds like it's more organizational than it is
• 56:42
  fans. You were talking about this
• 56:43
  earlier. You said it's not the fans.
• 56:46
  It's not, it's not the fans we got.
• 56:48
  The fans are there. They're they're there.
• 56:50
  Lewis is 100% right. There's little small things that
• 56:54
  Motor America needs to adjust and fix just to make it a little
• 56:59
  bit more professional. Because if you actually go to a
• 57:02
  lot of the rounds, you damn near can't walk around.
• 57:06
  Like you go to Rd. America, you go to like Ohio.
• 57:10
  I mean, damn it, Jersey last year, I'm from there and I've
• 57:15
  never they were parking at the other track to come to the one
• 57:19
  track to watch. So the fan base is there.
• 57:23
  It's there. It's just with Moto America
• 57:26
  itself, the club you need, I mean the organization, just give
• 57:30
  it a little bit more a professional look, that's it.
• 57:33
  And it will, it will turn itself around and 100% because if you
• 57:38
  actually look at like Supercross, or I say it all the
• 57:40
  time, you look at Supercross, Moto GP, what is it?
• 57:43
  It's nothing but a damn show. That's all it is.
• 57:45
  It just put on a show and that's all you have to do.
• 57:49
  Right, right. So is it, is it a matter of, you
• 57:52
  know, like any business, is it time for people who are a little
• 57:56
  bit larger to step in and help out?
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  Because you know, with any business you always need some
• 58:00
  outside money at some point to get to the next level.
• 58:02
  Is is Motor America in this in the current state is where it's
• 58:06
  at and now they need outside. Age.
• 58:09
  Investors or whatever to take it to the next level to bring it
• 58:12
  to, to start to bring it to the levels of of motocross.
• 58:19
  No, I mean, there's you, yes and no.
• 58:23
  There's actual new people that's in there that left like certain
• 58:26
  organizations that are very good at media and there's you need
• 58:31
  media and you need investors. That's the two top things.
• 58:34
  You need more media in there that like a young fresh look
• 58:39
  that actually will know what they're like.
• 58:41
  Hey, this is what we need to do. This is the to cater to the fans
• 58:46
  is right to cater to the fans. You need to cater to them.
• 58:49
  Just put on a show, you know, the younger, the younger crowd
• 58:53
  and you know, the investors to actually invest a little bit
• 58:56
  more money to actually be able to purchase certain things.
• 58:59
  Like he's like Lewis said, we just got the a good TV package
• 59:03
  finally now. So it's like, all right, let's
• 59:05
  see where it goes. But now you need more investors
• 59:07
  than actually invest in certain little things that we actually
• 59:10
  need. And at the track, you know, if
• 59:12
  you look at like you go to GP and they had a lot of venues
• 59:16
  there, like a lot of, you know, merch where you can buy certain
• 59:20
  things you can do. We don't have that kind of
• 59:22
  actual setup that we can do there at Mode America.
• 59:25
  They need that. Fans want to come and you want
• 59:28
  to be, they just want to be part of something.
• 59:30
  A lot of them guys that went to GP, all they want to do is just
• 59:34
  be part say, yeah, I wear a Ducati shirt, I'm part of
• 59:36
  Ducati. No, you're not.
• 59:37
  But they just want to be part of something, that's all.
• 59:39
  They just want to Rep their brand, Rep their their, their
• 59:43
  rider and be part of something. Right and and is is it like an
• 59:47
  identity crisis because you know, when I tell people about
• 59:50
  you know, motorcycle racing, I always say motor America is the
• 59:54
  equivalent of the NBA of motorcycle racing in the US.
• 59:56
  It's the highest level you can do right is is it identity
• 1:00:01
  crisis where they're not realizing the status they have?
• 1:00:04
  I mean, we have, you know, like when people.
• 1:00:07
  I think, I think that's the problem is you think they're the
• 1:00:11
  NBA, they're the WNBA. We don't have an NBA in the USA.
• 1:00:16
  Type of. Racing we really don't like.
• 1:00:22
  This is supposed to be the pinnacle of US Rd. racing.
• 1:00:25
  And it's not the NBA, it's not the NHL, it's not the MLB, it's
• 1:00:31
  not the NFL. It's the CFL, the WNBA.
• 1:00:37
  It's, I mean, there's college sports that are better put
• 1:00:40
  together than motorcycle racing. Yeah, he's not wrong.
• 1:00:45
  I mean, if you even look at sponsorship wise, like where is
• 1:00:48
  our energy drink guy? Where is our Red Bull athlete?
• 1:00:51
  Where is our monster athlete? We got a billion mission
• 1:00:56
  tortilla athletes. You can only eat so many
• 1:00:59
  tortillas, by the way. Their.
• 1:01:00
  Chips. Suck too, the tortillas.
• 1:01:04
  Are great actually. I like mission chips, the ones
• 1:01:06
  that are shaped like little motorcycles.
• 1:01:08
  I like the. Little motorcycles and Indycars
• 1:01:10
  or Formula One cars, whatever, you know.
• 1:01:12
  But yeah, where where is that athlete?
• 1:01:14
  I mean, everywhere else has that right.
• 1:01:17
  Literally everywhere. It doesn't matter if you're a
• 1:01:18
  triathlete diver. I mean, you're, you're a hot air
• 1:01:23
  balloon racer. You get a Red Bull sponsorship
• 1:01:26
  and we don't have any rider that's even sponsored by Red
• 1:01:29
  Bull or Monster anymore. So even those big companies that
• 1:01:32
  are so well diverse are not invested in the Moto America and
• 1:01:37
  there's so there's a problem there.
• 1:01:39
  So yeah, I I disagree, Louis, because I had Eric Woods on an
• 1:01:42
  interview and these guys are making seven figures Once Upon a
• 1:01:46
  time, so definitely. Bigger Once Upon a time.
• 1:01:48
  Definitely bigger than the all the leagues that you mentioned,
• 1:01:52
  but like WWE and all Wrestling, when they took their dive, they
• 1:01:55
  figured it out. So is it well situation again,
• 1:01:58
  is it an identity crisis because you know, they are bigger than
• 1:02:01
  in the in the fans eyes. It is like the NBA regardless of
• 1:02:06
  like I know, like I said earlier, when when you know, we
• 1:02:09
  used to get in backstage passes and all that and hanging out on
• 1:02:12
  stage while artists and performance is different to be
• 1:02:14
  in in a in the crowd as a fan, because you know, you got these
• 1:02:17
  perks. So I mean, is it you know, so is
• 1:02:20
  is is that what it is it just identity crisis still, because,
• 1:02:24
  like I said, Once Upon a time they were great.
• 1:02:26
  We and, and it's still great as far from a rider's perspective,
• 1:02:29
  right? But we we're more talking about
• 1:02:31
  business and and, and marketing and, and how to have people
• 1:02:34
  sustain the sport long term. People could make 7 figures in
• 1:02:42
  the 90s and early, mid early 2000s because the motorcycle
• 1:02:46
  industry in the US was blowing up.
• 1:02:48
  You know Suzuki was selling like a million motorcycles a year.
• 1:02:54
  You know you could throw a rock and hit 17 GSXRS before the rock
• 1:02:58
  hit the ground at most parking lots at bike nights.
• 1:03:00
  Now you go to a bike night, you throw a Rock, You might hit 10
• 1:03:03
  bikes. You know, it's not the same.
• 1:03:06
  It's not the same that it used to be.
• 1:03:07
  It really isn't. Man.
• 1:03:08
  You, you shake your head all you want, but even though it's
• 1:03:12
  growing again, it's starting to regrow because I do see a lot
• 1:03:15
  more young people coming into the motorcycling now.
• 1:03:18
  There was a good 1520 years that it was a barren wasteland of
• 1:03:23
  just guys in their mid 20s getting into their mid 40s
• 1:03:27
  without new riders coming in, and guys that were in their 40s
• 1:03:31
  getting into their 70s without new riders coming in.
• 1:03:34
  Now in the past, maybe like 7 years or eight years since
• 1:03:37
  COVID, we've seen more young riders come in because COVID
• 1:03:41
  gave us like the artificial boost.
• 1:03:43
  Everybody got money. Hey, I've always wanted to buy a
• 1:03:45
  motorcycle and now it's my time for my motorcycle.
• 1:03:47
  I can go out, I can do it by myself.
• 1:03:49
  I don't have to wear a mask. Nobody's going to stop me, and
• 1:03:52
  hopefully we can grow off that, but it's going to take time to
• 1:03:55
  grow off that. But for how many years did we
• 1:03:57
  just kind of meander around? We went from Motor America AMA
• 1:04:01
  to DMG, who tried to turn it into NASCAR and didn't turn into
• 1:04:05
  NASCAR it it destroyed the sport for years.
• 1:04:08
  Then we went to, you know, finally we went to Motor
• 1:04:11
  America, which was bought by people that are invested in
• 1:04:15
  motorcycle racing. But now we're pretty deep into
• 1:04:18
  this Motor America experiment and we're still, we're still
• 1:04:21
  kind of flat man. We've grown a little bit.
• 1:04:24
  We've, you know, introduced different series, the bagger
• 1:04:26
  series and this and that. But even the bagger series, yes,
• 1:04:29
  it's bringing in a new crowd and it's bringing, it's giving
• 1:04:32
  riders an opportunity to make money.
• 1:04:34
  That's my thing. You know, at the end of the day,
• 1:04:36
  I was like to see riders have an opportunity to make money.
• 1:04:39
  But when I see six baggers lining up, I'm like, this sucks,
• 1:04:42
  dude. Like you're racing for best of
• 1:04:45
  6, yeah. And.
• 1:04:49
  You know that the Harleys and Indians that the 2 factory teams
• 1:04:52
  are going to put all their money into those bikes.
• 1:04:54
  So anybody that's on like the satellite ish bikes, it's not
• 1:04:59
  the same man. Right, right.
• 1:05:02
  I I feel Reese, you were going to say something.
• 1:05:05
  I mean, I agree with Lewis on 100%.
• 1:05:07
  I mean, coming from, you know, many years ago when I used to
• 1:05:11
  work in a dealership and I still know a lot of my, my district
• 1:05:13
  managers, they'll tell you like it did take a dive and then it
• 1:05:18
  did come back with COVID. But you see a lot of young kids
• 1:05:21
  nowadays buying the smaller bikes they're actually buying.
• 1:05:24
  Like I'll use Yamaha for an example, like the R threes, the
• 1:05:28
  R sevens, the GSX 8 hundreds. They're they're buying a small
• 1:05:33
  bike. They're doing like a lot of the
• 1:05:34
  Europeans are doing where they buy the small bikes where they
• 1:05:36
  can commute to work or they could do that all day and use
• 1:05:39
  them every day. That's helping the industry grow
• 1:05:42
  big time. And you know, it's it's weird to
• 1:05:46
  say like we all came out, we were by the six hundreds and
• 1:05:48
  1000. The kids now are buying the
• 1:05:50
  smaller bikes and then finally later on growing into the bigger
• 1:05:54
  ones. But it does help.
• 1:05:56
  And then, like I said, used to work at the dealership.
• 1:05:58
  The sport never really died because you it's still there.
• 1:06:02
  But the problem is 1 the banks suck 2 the pricing of these
• 1:06:07
  bikes suck. You know you know, I used to
• 1:06:10
  remember buying an O8R1 and I bought it for damn near almost 8
• 1:06:14
  grand. Now I'm trying to buy an R1 for
• 1:06:16
  20 grand like I'm up there Ducati prices.
• 1:06:19
  That's insane. You know, so that hurts the
• 1:06:21
  industry right there a lot. But it's, I always used to say,
• 1:06:26
  and coming in us as consumers, we are our own worst enemy.
• 1:06:30
  You got everybody out there that saw us race and won a race.
• 1:06:34
  And I want this and a bike. I want this.
• 1:06:36
  And now when the manufacturer put it out there and they put it
• 1:06:39
  to you, I don't want it because it costs too much.
• 1:06:41
  Well, that's what you wanted. I didn't want to go buy it.
• 1:06:43
  I want it in there when I I get it from the factory.
• 1:06:47
  Now you got it, but now you don't want to spend the money.
• 1:06:49
  And that's what happens. And they keep giving you new and
• 1:06:51
  new stuff and now you don't want it.
• 1:06:54
  It's just like how when Yamaha brought that was that the R1 S
• 1:06:58
  out, nobody wanted it because they was like, oh, this is
• 1:07:02
  cheap. I'd rather buy the R1 the the
• 1:07:04
  standard R1. But so we are.
• 1:07:08
  We as consumers are our worst enemy, Unfortunately, yeah.
• 1:07:12
  OK. All right.
• 1:07:13
  Do you do you agree with that high Rev?
• 1:07:16
  Yeah, 100%. We want all the cool tech, but
• 1:07:19
  the tech comes with the price and now you see guys like CF
• 1:07:23
  Moto coming to the play. Don't Chinese man you, you get,
• 1:07:29
  you get. Skewered you get skewed with
• 1:07:33
  them Chinese. I'm telling you, they used to be
• 1:07:38
  the middle man and now they are the man.
• 1:07:40
  Unfortunately, they are coming in hot with their stuff.
• 1:07:44
  They don't have to upsell it. Whatever.
• 1:07:46
  They're coming at price points, they're coming with cool tech.
• 1:07:49
  Reliability is still maybe a question because we're still so
• 1:07:52
  new. You know, we don't have 15-10
• 1:07:55
  years. We only have 10 years of
• 1:07:57
  reliability to kind of prove their their track record yet.
• 1:08:00
  But they're coming out with really cool stuff.
• 1:08:03
  You see them with Valentin just kicking ass and world super.
• 1:08:07
  Yeah. So that's just going to help
• 1:08:08
  their 'cause I mean, it does look like an R1 Ducati slash BMW
• 1:08:14
  swing arm on a little 800, you know, but.
• 1:08:18
  What do you think that that that meeting's like after losing to
• 1:08:21
  ZX motor in Ducati or NB Augusta or Yamaha?
• 1:08:27
  It's common man. They're they they could just cut
• 1:08:29
  out. They used to be the middle man
• 1:08:31
  right? Every factory uses Chinese
• 1:08:33
  parts. I mean, Honda has 23 different,
• 1:08:36
  different factories throughout the world from Mexico to China
• 1:08:39
  to Thailand to here in the US to obviously Japan and Italy and
• 1:08:43
  and Brazil everywhere else, right?
• 1:08:45
  So now China is like, we'll just sell it ourselves direct to the
• 1:08:50
  consumer. Right, right.
• 1:08:54
  I mean, this is the way supply chain works, you know.
• 1:08:57
  This is supply chain one O 1. If you go through every single
• 1:09:00
  part on every motorcycle, you're going to find probably 20 to 30%
• 1:09:06
  of the parts on most motorcycles made today, regardless of the
• 1:09:09
  manufacturer, came from China. In one way or another, they came
• 1:09:13
  from China. 100%. And, you know, if China's
• 1:09:17
  already producing all these parts, then they just got to put
• 1:09:20
  all the parts together themselves and make a bike.
• 1:09:23
  You know, they're already have everything they need.
• 1:09:25
  You know, this is the way supply chain works.
• 1:09:27
  You know, Ford trucks made in America, built in Mexico with
• 1:09:30
  Chinese parts. Like that's, you know, in
• 1:09:33
  everything that we do. And every day, everybody
• 1:09:36
  supplies everybody else with parts to build what we need.
• 1:09:40
  And China just happens to be one of the biggest suppliers in the
• 1:09:43
  world for certain materials. I mean, they and they have
• 1:09:47
  enough space where they have the, the environment to actually
• 1:09:51
  mine these materials. They can make steel, they can
• 1:09:53
  make certain polycarbonates right there.
• 1:09:56
  They can produce all these raw materials.
• 1:09:58
  They can make silica, they can make, you know, microchips and
• 1:10:01
  processors and you know, they have copper there.
• 1:10:04
  They can make their own wire and they have the manufacturing
• 1:10:07
  capability. That's why everybody looks to
• 1:10:09
  them to buy parts. Yep, A. 100% I mean, I bought
• 1:10:13
  this shirt from Motegi Japan from the Honda collection hall
• 1:10:16
  in Motegi Japan myself. I bet you this shirt was built
• 1:10:20
  or made in Bangladesh, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:23
  So India will be the next country that comes out.
• 1:10:25
  I'm like Japan is now the the model you're going to see like
• 1:10:30
  KIRO come into the play and stuff like that.
• 1:10:33
  So it's coming, no? No doubt, no doubt, man.
• 1:10:38
  Well, I mean the time goes by fast guys.
• 1:10:41
  I think it's a good place to end.
• 1:10:43
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• 1:11:00
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• 1:11:05
  We don't want to hire a bodyguard, so be be nice.
• 1:11:11
  That's Lewis. That's Lewis over there.
• 1:11:14
  I had it one time so far. One time so far, people.
• 1:11:18
  Love me man. I don't know what you guys are
• 1:11:20
  talking about man. Right.
• 1:11:24
  They do. We we might have to schedule an
• 1:11:28
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  We appreciate it. We're doing something really
• 1:11:35
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• 1:11:40
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• 1:11:41
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• 1:11:45
  stuff and you yell at them and I tell you.
• 1:11:46
  To stop because you know people. We're going to get the Yellen
• 1:11:52
  coming here again next week, man, There's going to be some
• 1:11:55
  angry people coming here. We're you know, we're going to
• 1:12:00
  be at, we're going to be at Rd. Atlanta.
• 1:12:02
  So look for us and. Yeah, we'll be there.
• 1:12:06
  Remember, it's the South, it's a carry state.
• 1:12:12
  I carry all the time still. Come at us the right way.
• 1:12:17
  No, seriously, like if you guys have questions, if you guys have
• 1:12:20
  comments, we love to actually see them because it gives us
• 1:12:23
  something to talk about the next time we get together.
• 1:12:26
  You know, I've gotten a bunch of questions and I try to like
• 1:12:28
  throw my answers in our, you know, when we're just talking
• 1:12:33
  generally. So I, you know, I don't
• 1:12:34
  specifically point out the question that I was asked, but I
• 1:12:37
  try to throw it out there. But yeah, the interacting with
• 1:12:40
  the fans online and in person, I mean, we, you know, we see this
• 1:12:44
  channel growing, We've seen the metrics, we've seen just, you
• 1:12:47
  know, the fan reaction. So it's great, man.
• 1:12:50
  This is, this is what we wanted and now we got it.
• 1:12:53
  So we can't complain. You can always come up to the
• 1:12:57
  truck and ask me. You'll see us and I'll be there
• 1:13:00
  and just ask any questions you want.
• 1:13:02
  We'll we'll always answer your questions.
• 1:13:05
  No doubt, no doubt we're here. We're here to share.
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• 1:13:30
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