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AFC South Betting Preview with Jamal St. Cyr · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, your go to NFL betting podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We are part of the Action Network family of pods.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brandon Kravitz, your host. Back at it with the
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  Speaker 1: first lady of the podcast, Kendri Middleton. On today's show,
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  Speaker 1: the divisional previews continue. We stay south, but this time
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  Speaker 1: we're in the AFC. If the NFC is the drunkest
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  Speaker 1: division in the NFL, this is like the Designated Driver Division,
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  Speaker 1: a well coached division, some Super Bowl contenders, just four
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  Speaker 1: responsible teams who have a shot to make some noise.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to break this one down. This is like
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  Speaker 1: the moment that you have been waiting for all off season. Kendro,
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  Speaker 1: we get to talk about your Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: I am anxious, but I am excited for this season.
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  Speaker 1: And you have that sort of feeling where you in
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  Speaker 1: the deepest recesses of your mind, you do expect this
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  Speaker 1: team to be good. But because that expectation lives in
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  Speaker 1: your brain, you enter this season more nervous than anything else,
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  Speaker 1: because you know that it's the NFL, it's sports, and
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  Speaker 1: things can go horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It's I know that better than anybody else. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's just the inconsistency of this team my entire life,
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  Speaker 2: and they've never been good for an extended period of time.
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  Speaker 2: I know pain, I know hurt, and I am ready
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  Speaker 2: to get hurt again, but I'm not ready to get
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  Speaker 2: hurt again at the same time. This is truly like
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  Speaker 2: the most abusive relationship I think I've ever been.
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  Speaker 1: In ANFL preseason tonight, we've got a decent slate of games.
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  Speaker 1: I have two bets that have been logged in the app.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to target the totals more than anything else,
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  Speaker 1: not the biggest totals better during the season. But I
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  Speaker 1: think there are enough strong trends or I can get
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  Speaker 1: behind this, and unless I get obliterated early on, we'll
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  Speaker 1: probably just ride this to the end. When it comes
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  Speaker 1: to preseason betting, I have an over and an under,
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  Speaker 1: both logged in the app. Do you want me to
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  Speaker 1: give you my reasoning as to why I've found a
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  Speaker 1: really strong trend surrounding a certain number. But before I
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  Speaker 1: get to that, have you placed anything as far as
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  Speaker 1: preseason betting or will you just be sitting back trying
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  Speaker 1: to adjust your fantasy rankings.
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  Speaker 2: It is my lunch hour to do list. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to shove a waffle in my mouth and look at
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  Speaker 2: all of the numbers for this evening. I thought I
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  Speaker 2: had to work tonight, so I was like, gosh, shit,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to like sweat anything. This
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  Speaker 2: is going to suck. And then I realized that I
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  Speaker 2: had the wrong date in my calendar and the event
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  Speaker 2: that I have to go to is tomorrow. So now
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, sweet, I get to get fat on my
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  Speaker 2: couch tonight. That rules might as well sweat something.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely and we start there. Now. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: you should just place bets simply for the sweat, do
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  Speaker 1: a little research, and then sweat it out. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that Kendro would rubber stamp that under thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half on Lions Bengals over thirty six and
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  Speaker 1: a half on Chargers Texans. Since twenty ten, the number
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven has been the key benchmark in terms of totals.
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  Speaker 1: Totals that have been less than thirty seven have gone
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  Speaker 1: over at a rate of fifty seven percent, and totals
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  Speaker 1: that are south of thirty seven are north of thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven have gone under at a rate of fifty six percent.
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  Speaker 1: So if you just simply take the over on games
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  Speaker 1: that have a total less than thirty six and a
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  Speaker 1: half and the under on totals of more than thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half, then you will be profitable or.
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  Speaker 2: Do you mean under in the Chargers game?
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  Speaker 1: I have the over in the Chargers game?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Good?
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is it dj Leungla late tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Well? I usually we end up getting a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of east and stick in there if the if the
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  Speaker 1: histories tell me anything, but let's see Dju and Trey
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  Speaker 1: Lance will be the guys that we'll see rifling passes
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  Speaker 1: for the Chargers gone or the day.
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I really like the idea of betting
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  Speaker 1: on Mike McDaniel to show some cards early on in
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  Speaker 1: terms of getting that offense up to speed. So something, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: podbat over thirty six and a half on who the
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  Speaker 1: hell are they playing again? Chargers Texans for tonight. The
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  Speaker 1: Texans have a lot to prove offensively as well. So
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  Speaker 1: these are two teams that I think offensively the best
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  Speaker 1: of the foot, the best foot How might I want
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  Speaker 1: to How am I trying to say this?
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  Speaker 2: The best foot forward?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much? Jayden Daniels, spokesperson informed the LSU
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  Speaker 1: Tigers that they will be issuing a cease and desist
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  Speaker 1: order after the university allowed cornerback DJ pick It to
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  Speaker 1: wear the number five. The look on your face, that's
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  Speaker 1: the same number there.
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  Speaker 2: His representative is definitely his fucking mom. And also, who
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  Speaker 2: do you think you are?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Who do you think you are? You're not Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 2: you I've had enough. I want to love him, but
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  Speaker 2: his mom is annoying. He's pissing me off. You are
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  Speaker 2: not even an NFL superstar and you're the LSU Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how many iconic people have been to
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  Speaker 2: and played at that school? Like, you're not even the
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  Speaker 2: most famous person to come out of there in the
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  Speaker 2: last five years. You're not Lily Done, You're not Paul Skins.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up and sit down and do something at work
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  Speaker 2: and maybe we can have this conversation. Get your mom
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  Speaker 2: off the field, have her stop bullying your girlfriend. Sit
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  Speaker 2: down and shut up. This is making me so angry.
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  Speaker 1: In order to have the perspective that Kendra has on this,
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  Speaker 1: you only have to watch the show Quarterback on Netflix
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  Speaker 1: for about two and a half minutes. I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels had nothing to do with this. This man
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  Speaker 1: lets his mom run his life. Everything outside of the
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  Speaker 1: lines on the football field, his mom is in charge
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  Speaker 1: of She is the boss lady to the most obnoxious degree.
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  Speaker 1: And seeing this news story come down, you know as
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  Speaker 1: a certainty fact that she had everything to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: Your representation is your mother. And I can't say anything
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  Speaker 2: because I also have a mamager, But like, get a grip.
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  Speaker 2: You're a grown ass man. You're a grown man. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know how this makes your teammates and other people
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  Speaker 2: look at you like, no offense. I love my mom,
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  Speaker 2: My mom rules like, but you are a grown man
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  Speaker 2: at work.
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  Speaker 1: There is you know, not to turn this into a
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  Speaker 1: sexist direction, but I do think that there's a difference
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  Speaker 1: in the way that we judge men who allow their moms,
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  Speaker 1: even as adults, to run their lives. There's just something
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  Speaker 1: that is I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of look at Dia in the same way
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  Speaker 2: with the way that he acts with Shador and the
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  Speaker 2: ball Dad. I look at them all the same. You
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  Speaker 2: need to let go of your child. They're an adult.
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  Speaker 2: Stop micromanaging them.
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  Speaker 1: Find a hobby, got the umbilical cord, do your own thing.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna talk dry.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk AFC South with Jamal Saint Sear Jags, Texans, Colts,
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  Speaker 1: Titans will dig into the best bets for each division participants.
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  Speaker 1: In just a moment, Let's take a closer look at
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  Speaker 1: the AFC South of division that has been dominated by
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  Speaker 1: the Jags and Texans since twenty twenty two. The last
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  Speaker 1: time one of these teams did not win the division
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  Speaker 1: it was the Titans in twenty twenty one, and it
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  Speaker 1: looks like we're shaping up to end this season in
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  Speaker 1: a very similar way. We'll see what the crew thinks
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  Speaker 1: about that one. Let's welcome in our guests on this
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  Speaker 1: fine Thursday, Jamal Saint Cyr's sports anchor for WJXT four
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  Speaker 1: in Duvall County, Jamal Welcome. Kendrick could not be more
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  Speaker 1: excited to talk about her Jags. We are going to
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  Speaker 1: cover the other teams in the division, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously some extra focus on them. What's up, Jamal, Well.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate y'all having me on. Look the AFC South has
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  Speaker 4: been fun. Love covering Jaguars. Kendra was the queen of
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  Speaker 4: Jags Twitter for a little while, so I mean in
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  Speaker 4: a little while. You don't ever lose the crown. You
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  Speaker 4: don't never lose the crown.
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  Speaker 1: All right, maintaining queen status on Elon's Twitter sphere. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get the vibe check on the division in terms of
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  Speaker 1: we've been doing this with every division in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: or well, this is we're under division four of our
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  Speaker 1: preview episodes. Where does the AFC South rank in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the hierarchy, not of quality. We're talking intrigue. How
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  Speaker 1: interesting is the AFC seved? This is a division of
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  Speaker 1: wye de variance. Yeah, it's all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you got three teams that
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  Speaker 4: all probably feel decent about themselves going into the season.
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  Speaker 3: The Titans are still.
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  Speaker 4: Well, like in the middle of a rebuild, so we'll
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  Speaker 4: just not worry about them too much. But the Colts
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be like, Hey, we were rolling before Daniel
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  Speaker 4: Jones got hurt. We got him back healthy, We're good
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  Speaker 4: to go. The Texans have one of the best defenses
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  Speaker 4: in the league, so it doesn't get too much better
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  Speaker 4: than that. The Jaguars won thirteen games a year ago,
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  Speaker 4: felt like they kind of had some meat still on
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  Speaker 4: the bone and want to pick right back up where
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  Speaker 4: they left off. So I mean there's a whole lot
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  Speaker 4: of questions for all three of those teams that are
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  Speaker 4: kind of vying for.
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  Speaker 3: Is Daniel Jones healthy? Can CIJ.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud remember what it was like when he was a
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  Speaker 4: rookie and sling the football around? And can Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: pick up where he left off last season and play
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  Speaker 4: a whole season like that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so all.
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  Speaker 4: Three of these teams feel good going into a year,
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  Speaker 4: but all three of them have big time questions for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And there's the Titans out there that are going through
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  Speaker 1: they're going through a change they never know with you know,
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  Speaker 1: second year of cam Ward he could take a big leap,
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  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, new head coach, Ken Drive. I believe
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  Speaker 1: this is number one on your list if I remember.
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  Speaker 2: Correctly, the Titans, no.
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  Speaker 1: The just the division as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of your no jah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember this correctly, right of course. Yes, it was
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  Speaker 1: the as we labeled them on the last episode, the
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  Speaker 1: drunkest division in predictable.
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  Speaker 2: And we've been talking about intrigue. And I know that
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  Speaker 2: most people don't care about the NFC South, but it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the most unpredictable, and to me that's intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: I think if the NFC South is the drunkest division,
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  Speaker 1: the AFC South I've deemed them the designated driver division,
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  Speaker 1: like this would be more they're more DD.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think Jacksonville, Nashville, Houston, and
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  Speaker 2: Indianapolis really fit the vibe of being well yahd driver.
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  Speaker 2: But the cities are team that almost instead of playing
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  Speaker 2: in Disney World, played at the Daytona five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and city wise that doesn't make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense. But in terms of predictability, I think
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  Speaker 1: that if this division or to lay out predictably, it
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  Speaker 1: would be the Jags or Texans, separated by a game
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, followed by the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: followed by the Titans. There's wide variants, of course, because
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  Speaker 1: some of these teams could take big leaps forward, like Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: Some could really crash back down to earth like Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this division sets up to be if
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  Speaker 1: one of the more predictable jamal are the Texans rightful favorites,
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  Speaker 1: though because the Jags won thirteen games last year, they
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  Speaker 1: return a lot of the same pieces. There's continuity there
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  Speaker 1: something Trevor Lawrence rarely has. Do you think the Texans
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  Speaker 1: are the best team in the division as we enter
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  Speaker 1: into the preview?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's tough to like war the Texans,
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  Speaker 4: right That defense is elite, it's stacked, But the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 3: Are kind of holding the crown from last year. We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: I can understand why you say the Texans would be
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  Speaker 4: the favorite and why a lot of people see it
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  Speaker 4: that way.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, if you watch CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud play ball in the playoffs, that'd be enough of
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  Speaker 4: a selling point for a question mark for me as
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  Speaker 4: to you know, what they can do, but that defense
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  Speaker 4: can probably carry them. But people still look at the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars the way they did a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 4: and this isn't exactly the same team. They've done a
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  Speaker 4: whole lot of work to flip this roster. Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 4: has a whole different energy in that building. They have
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  Speaker 4: a whole different mentality and different expectations. So I mean
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  Speaker 4: I'd say, hey, you want it last year, you should
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  Speaker 4: be the favorite going in to retain your title.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I'd look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any concern for you for the no excuses
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  Speaker 2: aspect of CJ. Stroud, we were at one point during
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  Speaker 2: a playoff game last year a disc sing whether he
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  Speaker 2: should be put on the bench or not. They make
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  Speaker 2: a lot of moves on the offensive line and he's
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  Speaker 2: getting his favorite target back. Are there any excuses for him?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it do or die?
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  Speaker 4: I think he's got to do it. I think he's
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  Speaker 4: got to do it. I mean, he when he was
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  Speaker 4: great as a rookie, but since then it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: just tailored off and he's been terrible. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's at that point where it's do or die, where
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  Speaker 4: you're running out of the excuses. I mean, you got
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  Speaker 4: that good of a defense. Their Super Bowl windows should
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  Speaker 4: be open right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean c J.
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  Speaker 4: Strauss out there, terrible, terrible in the playoffs. The defense
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  Speaker 4: did everything they could to keep him in the game.
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  Speaker 4: So I think he's out of them. I think he's
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  Speaker 4: got to go and do it. I mean he's even
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  Speaker 4: cut the hair, so I mean, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: that changes the vibes or not, but if it works.
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  Speaker 3: It works.
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  Speaker 2: How long is the leash?
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  Speaker 4: That's tough because last year when they put Davis Mills in,
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  Speaker 4: he had him rolling a little bit. He was playing
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  Speaker 4: better ball than what they saw from CJ a lot,
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  Speaker 4: So I think they'll give him a decently long leash
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  Speaker 4: because they don't want to go back to Davis because
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  Speaker 4: you kind of know.
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  Speaker 3: What he is.
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  Speaker 4: But at some point, if CJ didn't have it, there's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to be a tough conversation because if not,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna be looking at Coach Ryan's like, hey, buddy,
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  Speaker 4: if you can't make this decision, we'll find somebody who can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that Kendra started with the Texans because that
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  Speaker 1: is where I wanted to kick off our individual team previews.
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  Speaker 1: They have never gotten out of the divisional round in
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  Speaker 1: the history of this franchise. It doesn't date back that long,
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  Speaker 1: but they're oh to seven in their franchise's history indivisional
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  Speaker 1: round games. So it's very clear what they're trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: which is to break that trend. They've got the top
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  Speaker 1: flight defense, as we mentioned, many consider the Texans defense
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  Speaker 1: to be the top unit in the NFL. The question
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  Speaker 1: is do they have enough to overcome some of the
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  Speaker 1: holes offensively. You had twenty seven sacks last year from
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  Speaker 1: Will Anderson and daneil Hunter. It feels like there's so
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  Speaker 1: many teams with obvious question marks. The defense has won
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  Speaker 1: Jamal that we just I don't even know if we
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  Speaker 1: need to spend time on it because there's just it's
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  Speaker 1: an obvious that this defense is going to be elite?
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  Speaker 1: Is it enough to carry them? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Look, that defense is that good. I mean you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about them. Leave off that they've got Stingley back there,
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  Speaker 4: who is the elite at corner. I mean that.
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  Speaker 3: Defense is absolutely stacked.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, they should be better offensively than
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  Speaker 4: they are when you've got a wide receiver like Nico
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  Speaker 4: Collins who's really good.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll see their big.
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  Speaker 4: Offensive move is adding David Montgomery to that backfield? Does
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  Speaker 4: that help add more juice than what they had? And
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  Speaker 4: Nick Chubb absolutely, But that defense should be good enough
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  Speaker 4: to carry them. The big question is does the offense
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  Speaker 4: let them down? I mean that's what happened to them
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  Speaker 4: late in the season and a lot of the games
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  Speaker 4: last year with the offense just wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Does this give you twenty seventeen Jacksonville Jaguars, Saxonville and
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  Speaker 2: Blake Bortles vibes where that defense will it's just, in
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  Speaker 2: my biased opinion, probably a top five defense we ever
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  Speaker 2: saw jail at that point in the season, and Blake
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  Speaker 2: Bortles just somehow being a wanna be construction worker getting
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  Speaker 2: it done. Does it have to be that type of
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  Speaker 2: season and that type of run for this Texans team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, CJ is better than Blake Bortles was. Let's put
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  Speaker 1: some respect on CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how many AFC Championships games has CJ Stroudben too?
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's fair, that's fair. I'll just see if
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  Speaker 1: you're given me the two, I'm gonna take CJ every
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  Speaker 1: day of the week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take cigarettes and construction.
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  Speaker 4: He's the boat for a reason, right, But the vibes
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  Speaker 4: do match. You're right. They went and got their learn
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  Speaker 4: four Nette and David Montgomery. They just need CJ straut
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  Speaker 4: to try and be Blake Bortles. They've got the Saxonville.
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  Speaker 4: When you start talking about Danil Hunter and Will Anderson,
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  Speaker 4: you've got your Jalen Ramsey and Stingley on.
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  Speaker 3: The back end.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it, You're right, it's there, the need that
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  Speaker 4: kind of run where it's just like, Okay, can CJ
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  Speaker 4: play just good enough ball? To not get in the
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: way of what we're doing defensively is kind of where
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: they're at, Like, Hey, he can't be this bad, right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just blown away. I get that the guy threw
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: four interceptions in a half against the New England Patriots.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I was watching that game too, guys, But Blake Pordoles.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Was never questioned to be benched in the playoffs.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's three years into his career. Two
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: of the years he was really good. Last year was
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a step back, and then he was terrible in the playoffs.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And I think kenjer brought up a really good point
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: as far as getting the top target back, not necessarily
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the top target that's Nico Collins, but his favorite target,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Tank Dell not playing last year and CJ. Stroud taking
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a step backwards. I think those two things are correlated.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Tank Dell took a massive step in the right direction
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: in terms of his recovery. He actually caught a touchdown
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: pass in practice the other day. He looks smooth. This
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: could be the under the radar guy for the Texans
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: or if he is able to stay on the field. Jamal,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I've got a lot more faith that that offense can
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: be good enough, and Stroud can be a lot closer
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to Let's see, let's pick a requisite quarterback Jared Goff
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: than he is Blake Bortles, a.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Little Jared Goff. Okay, they could make that work.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Look I see Jared Goff at him.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I could see that. I could see that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Look Tank Dell's good. The question with him is Kenny
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: stay healthy?
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's been the knock. When he's played, he's
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: been great, and that is CJ. Stroud's go to guy,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: a security blanket. But at this point it's also not
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: even just Kenny stay healthy. How much juice does he
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: have left?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Because we have.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: It's been so long, so many injuries have kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: stacked up on the sky. He's undersized. His thing was
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: his quick, twitchy nature. Does he still have that same
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: twitch that he had before the injuries kind of stacked
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: up and sidelined him for so long? So, I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: we'll see. But they do have some good guys on
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that on that roster. I mean, Nico Collins is elite.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: He is absolutely elite. And then those wide receivers that
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: they drafted from Iowa State, Higgins, He's really good. He
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: started to come on for the Texans late last season,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: and he's a guy that should take another big step
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: forward for him.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Final question for me on the Texans. I think the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: ceiling for them is thirteen and four, in the floor
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: is nine and eight. What's more likely in your opinion.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I'd say that the thirteen's probably more likely. The thirteen's
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: probably more likely. That Texans team is good. I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: coach Ryan's is one of the best in the league.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: He's going to get the most out of that defense.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Even if CJ reverted back to where he was at
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: like the worst of the worst, that defense is going
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: to drag him along. So I think the Texans are
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: going to be in for good a good season. Thirteen
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: wins seems about right over where they could be, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: David Montgomery still got some juice and that's an upgrade
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: at running back from them from where they were a
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: year ago big time.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Their leading rusher last year was Woody Marx, who barely
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: cracked seven hundred yards. This is something that they need
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: in that offense to help the slightly above average quarterback
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in CJ. Stroud. Their win total sitting at nine and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a half, I do think the over on the Texans
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: would be a smart bet, Kendra, best way to bet
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans? And have you done so already in
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: any form?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I refuse to bet anything in this division for religious purposes,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: but I think that if you're going to probably coach
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of the year, is the way that I would look.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I like that on Demiko Ryans, I have already
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: bet the Texans plus one and a half against Buffalo
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in Week one at home. This is something that Evan
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Abrams and I tracked and targeted when the schedules came out,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: so that one is already in the app And this
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is not on purpose, Guys, I've become the CJ. Stroud
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: guy all of a sudden. But I think his over
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: on passing yards three and forty nine passing yards, the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: over to me is in play. With Tank Dell back
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: an improved offensive line, this should be attainable. He hit
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: this in his prior to his.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Parents, walking into the first day of training camp in
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: those shorts, and you're betting on this man.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: No, that was not his swaggiest moment. Let's move on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to Els. Let's move on to the most Jekyl and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Hide team of twenty twenty five, The Indianapolis Colts a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: seven and one start, and then they finished going one
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in eight down the stretch. And this perfectly coincided with
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: two things. One, they overperformed to start the year. Even
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: if they had stayed healthy, they were going to fall
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: off to a degree. Two Danny Dimes went down, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they also dealt with injuries to their secondary Tarvarius Ward
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: only played seven games. Sauce Gardner, who they acquired from
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the Jets, only played in four games after they brought
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: him in on that deal. It's basically win or blow
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it up for the Indianapolis Colts. Chris Ballard did not
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: have his contract extended as the GM and I would
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: think that Shane Steichen has been given fair shake. He
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was hired in twenty twenty three. If it doesn't work out,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think they probably clean house. Are you with that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: sort of mindset, Jamal?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think it's at that point for sure
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: where you've made these moves. You've gone your jettison Michael
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Pittman Junior to let him roll out. You bring in
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner last season. Yeah, if it doesn't work, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: got to make some drastic things and hit the reset button.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I mean The question is who is Danny Dimes. Is
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: he the guy that we saw from the Giants most
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: of his career. Is it the guy that had the
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: one decent year in New York? Or is it the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: guy that was playing like lights out ball to start
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: last season before the injury. So somewhere in there is
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the reality of who Daniel Jones is and that's kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of going to be determining a lot of jobs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there is any chance that we
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: see someone other than Daniel Jones this year? I know
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that they have really put all of their eggs in
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: one basket with him, but I've heard some rumblings of
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: maybe Anthony Richardson getting traded. Riley Leonard was about as
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: serviceable as I think Anthony Richard and would be for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: them in that offense. Do you think that they're committed
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to Daniel Jones? Once again, we're talking about how long
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: is the leash here, but he's coming back from a
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: pretty insane injury, And to be honest, their schedule is
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: one of the tougher ones in the division. They start
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: out with the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Texans, Commanders, Steelers
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: get a little bit of a break and then they're
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: just right back in the thick of it. So it
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: might be tough sledding off the rip, which makes me
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: concerned for Daniel jones longevity as a starter.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm with you.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I was skeptical when they started saying he was going
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: to be ready to go to start the season. I
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: mean that at Achilles injury, those are things you don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: want to rush back from. I mean, Indianapolis should know
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: all about like not rushing back from Achilles injuries. I mean,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: they've had a tough spring of them, especially when you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: start talking about like Tyrese Haliburton for the Pacers. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know, is there a chance that he goes
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: out there and gets hurt again? Sure, I don't know
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: if it's Anthony Richardson, though I think that boat has
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: sailed at.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He's partially blind.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I can at least say you can see because I've
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: seen it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: He's been working out here in Jacksonville over the course
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: of the offseason, so I've seen him at least throw
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: some passes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I'll put that no fear on locked with the breaking
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: your orbital bone with the.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: You're really worried about this.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Resistance ban two episodes in a row. Now it genuinely
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I fear for my life every time I use a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: workout band.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Now, he's that happened to that?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That is, and he got injured in college if I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: remember correctly, doing a TikTok dance, So he doesn't have
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the best injury history. Looked that up. That's a real story.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody, by the way, nobody tries to bench quarterbacks faster
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: than Kendrick Middleton. This is now back to back teams
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: or you're benching the quarterback.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Well, there's legitimate questions, Okay, don't anyways, I would like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to handicap Jonathan Taylor. I ask myself every single when
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: will him and Derrick Henry finally look old? Is it
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a year to continue to hitch myself to the Jonathan
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Taylor whether it's you know, betting or fantasy or whatever
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: wagon or do we think that we finally see him
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: start to look maybe his age.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: No, hitch the trailer to JT. Hitch the trailer to JT.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor is still elite. He's gonna be carrying that offense.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I have full belief in that that offensive line is
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: a solid bunch too. That's What helped Daniel Jones a
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: lot last season is Indy did a good job at
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: building that offensive line and that's helped Jonathan Taylor a lot.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Taylor is going to keep on rolling.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: The biggest question for that offense is just is Daniel
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Jones able to stay healthy? Is he ready to go
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: to start the year and can he play the way
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: he did the beginning of last season.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the one of the things that I think
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is forgotten about with Daniel Jones is that he was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: He was in the MVP debate midway through the season,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: even if we sort of forced him in there. But
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: he also had a fracture in his fibula in November,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: played through it, and then he ruptured his achilles. This
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: guy was already battling an injury. I don't know if
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: one led to the other. I'm not a doctor, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the guy is tough as nails, and I do think
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it speaks well to him that he's trying to come
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: back this quickly. Another piece to this offense that we
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: should discuss is that Michael Pittman has gone. He's been
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: their number one wide receiver for years now. They gave
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Alec Pierce the most ludicrous contract for any wide receiver
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Four years, one hundred and fourteen million
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: dollars for a guy who has never been a number one.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: They still have Josh Downs. We love Tyler Warren, are
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: they too JT reliant? Though with now Michael Pittman gone.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I think Josh Downs is the guy who's gonna eat.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Josh Downs has been really good when he's gotten chances,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and I think this is just going to open up
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: a little bit more volume for him. Alec Pierce is
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: one of those guys that shows up from at times.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I mean I can think back to some a couple
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: of Jaguars Colts games where Alec Pearce put the Colts
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: on that is back in the fourth quarter, just scoreing touchdown.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: He just hasn't been able to consistently do it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: But I think Josh Downs is the guy in that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: offense that I think is gonna be the big beneficiary
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: of Pittman being gone, where he's gonna eat underneath and
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: like be able to turn some of that stuff up
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: as long as he can stay healthy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk deserves an apology for the amount of shit
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: that he got for that contract.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Arden Key really doing a tour of the AFC South.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: He is an Indianapolis colt. Now this defense on paper
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: looks like it should be beyond serviceable. What are your
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: expectations for them? Are they going to have to pull
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: more than their weight to keep this team in any
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: sort of conversation this season?
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were playing lights out ball defensively last year.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I think they'll be fine. I don't know that they're
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: going to be an elite group. You know you're depending
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: on sauce Gardener at corner. Whenever you invest that heavily
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: in a corner and all the other pieces aren't already
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: together on the defense, you start asking questions because you're like, look,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: he's not just gonna revolutionize what you do defensively, But
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: There'll be a decent group.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Arden Key definitely has been around everywhere at this point, still.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Has no keys to the city.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Change the city, change the culture everywhere in the AFC South.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: He took the words right out of my mouth and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the way that you describe the Indianapolis cults. I have
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a note here on my computer that says nice pieces,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: not elite. DeForest Buckner is old. I like their secondary.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: We don't really get a good read of them last
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: year because they were so banged up. It's like the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: undertold story everybody talks about Daniel Jones. Their secondary was
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: ravaged with injuries as well. Zay R. Franklin has gone.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think anytime a team loses their captain on defense,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I worry a little bit. But like i to lot
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: To is one of my favorite defensive players in the league.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: What is the best case scenario for them? I think
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: when I talk about variants with this division, I'm mostly
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: talking about them because I really don't know if is
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the ceiling and the floor is it all that different
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: with this team or are they basically like ceilings nine
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to eight floors eight and nine.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably right about there. They're good enough that
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: they're not just going to fall off a cliff. But
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, best case scenario, everybody stays healthy, Jonathan Taylor
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: has like a crazy year, What does that get you?
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe ten wins? Maybe ten like on the all schedule.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Man, That is, if they get to the playoffs and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: don't get embarrassed. Let's say it's a wild card exit,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: but it's a fun game. Is that enough we talk.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: We opened the conversation with them talking about the coach
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and the GM. Is that enough to preserve jobs in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis with the way the roster is constructed. I think
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the answer is yes. But I'm curious what you think
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I think that buy them another year. I think that
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: buy them another year. It would be interesting, but you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: getting to the playoffs, especially with that team after last year,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: would be at least a step in the right direction.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: But I think that would buy them another year.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think the seat's quite that hot just yet.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I have an interesting way to bet them, Kendram. My
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: favorite way to bet the Colts this year under two
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and a half Divisional wins. They only had two last year.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: With how good they were, they only won two games
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in the division. I could see them losing to Jacksonville
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and Houston two times apiece, one win against the Titans.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And we clear this with these is Carly Ersa.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Going to be on the sidelines again because she's kind
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of the vibe tribe leader.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Do we like the you like the vibe that she ate?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I really yeah. She she served down on the sidelines
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: last year. She was locked in and Honestly, I contribute
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: part of their success to her being down there with
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: her notepad. She's kind of the Vibe tribe leader.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I'm in on the headset.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kind of that girl.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: As long as she's not overstepping any Any owner that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: oversteps is not good for their team. Jerry Jones, I'm
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: talking to you. But if she's just down there just
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to just to know the ins and outs of what's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: going on, I respect the hell out of it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: She gives Roz from Monsters Inc.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: But hot even.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Someone please on the YouTube feed throw that image up
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: just so for people out there can understand who Kendra
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: is turning into an attraction scenes like Puppetmaster.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: She's in charge of the guys in the Orange Shoe
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: twenty two point fifty nine or whatever that is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Carlier say, I didn't realize that that Roz was your type.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Any other way to bet the coult Skeendra before I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: move on.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I just think that their schedule's too tough. I I'm
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: probably leaning the under here, but like I said, for
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: religious purposes, I try to avoid this division. You know
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: what Tyler warrens Steson totals, Actually.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad. That was a great bet. Last
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: year he cleared that with ease seven and a half.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Is there is their win total, and I think it
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: would be under nothing. Okay, let's talk about your Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: We pushed them towards the back of the pre for
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: dramatic effects. The Jags took a big leap forward last year,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: thirteen wins, a division title, almost took down Josh Allen
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: in the wild card round. Great year one for Liam Cohen.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: The Jags want consistency, Jamal. This is a franchise that
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: has finished in every possible position in the AFC South
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: for five years fourth, first, second, third, first. That's the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: last five years for the Jags. This is a bipolar franchise.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a believer. Should the Jags look as good in
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: year two under Liam Cohen as they looked in your one?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Look, I think this should be a very different season
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: for the Jaguars than they did in year one because
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: year one, the offense kind of limped out of the
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: gates a little bit, right, they were still figuring out
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: there was all kind of like operational issues. All that
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: stuff should be out the window because they kind of
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: figured it out late in the season.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: They've got the gang back together. Thomas Junior.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I was talking to him just the other day and
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: he's like, man, the difference a year can make for
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: how I feel in this offense. You know, Parker Washington
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: was on fired at the end of last season. He's
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: picked right back up where he's left off. I think offensively,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be good right out of the gate. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I think the expectations should be high, and they are high,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: and they they really didn't lose as much as people
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: are making a big deal about losing Travis Chan and
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd. And I know the NFL Top one hundred
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: ranked Devin Lloyd crazy high. I've watched Devin Lloyd his
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: entire career.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I ain't buying it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like I said on the last episode,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: there's a reason they didn't pay this guy. Yeah. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: don't overrate his arrival in Carolina.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I have so many questions, but I am a scarred fan.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: There are so many people online who have been in
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and out of camp saying that this is the best
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Jaguars team that has ever been assembled that they've ever seen.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I person Snowy had PTSD from when mister Kahn said that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and they went out there and sucked ass. What are
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: your thoughts of this team heading into the season. Can
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: we get a TLDR of everything you've seen go down
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: on camp so far.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're the best team I've ever seen,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: but offensively, I mean that wide receiver room is stacked,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: like Parker Washington is good, Brian Thomas is good. We've
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: seen enough from Travis Hunter. They're gonna use him at
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: wide receiver. They're gonna use him at corner.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: And when he's.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Out there, he's back to where he was in his
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Heisman run plus muscle like. He is athletic, he's fast,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: he can go out there and make plays. The biggest
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: question on the offense is the offensive line. They've moved
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison from right tackle to left tackle the right
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: side of the offensive lines and shambles cole Van Lannon,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: who was their mister do it all on the offensive
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: line last year.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: He's still coming back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: He's on the pup list right now, So they have
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: no idea what they're doing on the right side of
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: the offensive line right now. So that's their big question there. Defensively, Look,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: coach Camvini was in the last have this offseason. Okay,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: he has been dialing up blitzes and absolutely like wrecking shop.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: He wants them to get to the quarterback. He's got
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: all kinds of combinations out there. They got a lot
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: of guys that can do a little bit of a
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: lot of things, so they've been tinkering with it. I
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: think the defense is gonna be like way improved from
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: what it was a year ago.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, because that's my concern. We obviously have seen campidilly
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: elevate these linebackers, but to be honest, the linebackers are
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: a big question mark for me. What position are you
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the most concerned about heading into the season. I would
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: say running back and linebacker for me, but I will
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: take other opinions.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I think running back and offensive line are the two
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: that concern me the most, so both offensively, which is
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: why I I'm Liam's gonna figure out how to dial
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: it up offensively. Like I've seen enough from him to
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: know that. I mean, he's out there, man, the defense
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: kicked our bus today and it pisses me off, so
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I know he's going right back inside to figure it out. Uh,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Liam's gonna figure out offensively Touton's good, he's.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Fast, but he's just never done it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez is a tough runner, and he's looked good
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: from what we've seen as he's gotten healthy, but he
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: really hasn't done it in a large capacity. Offensive line's
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: been I mean, they're trying everybody at this point on
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: the right side of that offensive line to figure it out. Linebacker,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not that I think Devin Lloyd that was the
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: career year. When he whatever he retires, that will be
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: the best year of his career. So you know, you
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: let him go to Carolina. They got a guy from
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: last year, Branson Combs, who was undrafted, who was a
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: wide receiver when he started his college career and now
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: he's a linebacker, so he has a great athletic ability.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: They're talking to his linebacker coach.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, you can see that he was a
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: wide receiver with the way he moves out there. His
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: parents played basketball, so he can jump out the gym like.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: They are extremely excited for Branson Combs and he's competing
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: for that starting job, and I think he's the guy
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: who's going to ultimately win it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think for this team to reach their upside, which
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I have bet on, so I'm in on this. But
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they have to get better, as you mentioned, when it
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: comes to sacking the quarterback. They were twenty seventh in
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: sacks last year. Yeah, with thirty two and they were
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: in like Arizona Cardinals territory. You can't win a Super
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Bowl like that. And it's puzzling to me, Jamal, because
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they have It's not like, well, a lot of teams
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that struggle to get after the quarterback. You look at
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: their edge pieces and you go, well, there you go.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: You got to get better edge rushers. The Jags don't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: need that. They have josh heinz Allen, they have Trayvon
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Walker coming off of the edge. So why why did
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: this happen? How do you have guys that are that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: talented that can't sack the quarterback. Is it a secondary
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: issue where the receivers are just too running, too wild
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and free, so the edge pieces can't get to the quarterback.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: What is the read on that and is this something
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that can be corrected.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of a couple of things.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Trayvon, I mean he's built like an old Ford truck,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: like nothing hurts this guy. But last season was the
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: first time in his NFL career he's dealt with injuries.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: He played part of the year with a.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Cast on his wrist, he had a knee brace on
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: By the end of the year, he's back healthy, so
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: he was banged up. He had kind of started stacking
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: and getting better each season. He had back to back
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: double digitsack years before that, and last year he missed
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: some games when dealing with the injury, so he should
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: be back. And then even late last season, they started
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: moving around the defensive line to where he's not just
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: lining up on the edge anymore. He's finally getting some
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: passing snaps inside at defensive tackle. Josh heinz Allen is
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: good at impacting the quarterback. He always is near the
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: top of the league in pressures. He gets back there,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: but the sack numbers man. He's always like that close.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: He gets the quarterback hits, he gets the pressures, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: he can't quite finish the job. He had the one
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: major season that got in the contract, but he hadn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: been able to kind of capitalize or stack off of
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: that right. But they've doubled down that. They think a
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: big part of why they had so many pressures or
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: quarterback hits, and they were able to impact the quarterback
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: last year. But the problem was in the secondary, is
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: what they felt like. So they went ahead and made
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the change. They let Greg Newsom go. He moved on
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: and went to New York. But you're gonna move Travis
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Hunter to where he's gonna play more corner. I think
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: he's a good receiver. I think Travis Hunter is an
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: elite cornerback, and I mean I've seen that dating back
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: to last sear Just the way he moves at corners
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: different man and the ball skills that makes him so
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: good at receiver is what makes him even crazier good
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: at corner because he just plays it like it's, oh,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: you're throwing it my way. Great, So you put him
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: over there where quarterbacks are gonna have to at least
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: think twice before they sling it his way. Buster Brown
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: was basically your cornerback won most of the last season,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: and he played some really good ball for them. They
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: feel like the improvements in the secondary are gonna make
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: the quarterback hold the ball just that much longer, which
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: is gonna let them get some more sacks.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about BTJ obviously, one of the most
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: electric rookie careers we've seen in quite some time. Massive
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: fall off last year. What should the expectations be for him?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Should it be who we saw him be as a rookie,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: should it be somewhere in between who we saw last
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: year his rookie season house, he looked what should the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: realistic expectations be of him? This year?
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: His rookie season was record breaking, So that's tough to
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: ever like top right, But BTJ can be the guy.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: He can be that guy. I talked to him like
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: two days ago, and he was talking about how over
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: the offseason he changed his diet. He got more intentional
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: about how he works out because he wanted to prepare
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: his body. He said, I was just trying some stuff
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and then I got to OTAs and I could feel
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the difference in my body, So I said, oh, let
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: me keep doing this.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: He looks better than I've ever seen him.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: On the practice field as a rookie, his practices were
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: kind of messed, so we were real quiet leading up,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: and then he got to the game field and turned
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: the lights on and was great. Last season was up
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: and down, right, but we keep saying it's a down year.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: It was a down year for him. With eight hundred
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: yards like that tells you just how good everybody believes
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: he can be. And I think he can be better
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: than that. He's shown it out there on the practice field.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: He looks ready to go. Last season, he did have
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: some injuries that he kind of kept quiet and played through.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: There was a wrist injury, there was an ankle injury,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: and he just was never really healthy. So like going
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: through this offseason, in this training camp, he's like, man,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I'm running and it's pain free again. So some of
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: that stuff was weighing on him last year, where like
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: during training camp we could see it. There were a
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: couple of times during training camp where he stayed on
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: the ground and the trainers checked on him and they
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: were like, oh no, he's fine, and he came back.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: So he was working through some stuff all season long.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: I think BTJ is going to be back in that
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: realm of where he was as a rookie, and the
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: bar is going to go back up for this guy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: All right, talk to me about the running back room.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I am really concerned about this position group. I get
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the bacial Tuton probably going to be the consistent guy
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that they're going to rely on. But Chris Rodriguez and
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen seemed to have some chemistry, assuming from Kentucky days,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and I wouldn't rule out the Quinn Allen. I know
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that he was more of a return guy last year,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: but I could see him also making some moves up
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this depth chart. What should be the expectation? Is there
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: any vulnerability at that starting spot? What do you think?
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Look, I think Touton's the guy that has the lead
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: on this thing. Chris Rodriguez came in, got hurt during
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the offseason, so that didn't help him. So Touton kind
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: of has a stranglehold on it right now, and he's.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: The guy I think.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: If you want to talk about like baseball, Basil Tutan
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: represents a home run or at least a triple. I mean,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: you're talking about a guy who is your short yards
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: back a year ago because he's short and stocky built,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: but he also has like four to three speed, so
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: he's the big playwaiting to happen. On the other end,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: you got Chris Rodriguez, who best case scenario, what is
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: he maybe a double or a single? He gets you
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: on base and he's gonna get you rolling. But from
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: what I've seen from him out in training camp with
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: the pads on, he runs tough, he looks solid, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: like the coaching staff described him as efficient, you know
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: you're gonna go out there, hand him the ball. He's
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: gonna get exactly what's blocked, maybe an extra yard or two.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: So he's gonna keep you on schedule. And that's the
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: type of guy that's tough to keep off the field.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: We might be heading for a full on committee with
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: this thing, because if Chris Rodriguez can be as efficient
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: as the coaches think he is, he's the kind of
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: guy you keep giving the football to.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So I've heard.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Betting Chris Rodriguez week one at anytime on it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I think that'll be why it'll be more than a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: week one bet for you. I think we're gonna be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: probably riding that to the bye week. If I had
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to guess, did it bother you at all? The way
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: that James Gladstone drafted entering into a season where they're
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: supposed to be uber competitive the draft class, Sometimes it
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: has a big impact on a team's run to a
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: potential championship. Sometimes it doesn't matter. But Nate Porkacher with
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: a round two pick. We got a little a little
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: excited about this new formation of using extra tight ends
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: on the field. Did that bother you at all or
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: do you think that's not really a factor as far
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: as the season goes.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's a factor for this season. I mean, realistically,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: if he's tight end two and can be competent, that's
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: a big upgrade for this Jaguars offense because last year
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: their tight end two was a revolving door. I mean,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: they started off the year with Hunter Long. By the
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: end of the year, Hunting Long wasn't even active on
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: game day. They bumped up Johnny Munt and Johnny Wuntz
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: a great tight end three. But I never want to
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: see a quarterback throw Johnny Munt to pass again. I'm
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: sorry as just.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: As what it is.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Quinton Morris started the year on the practice squad. By
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: the end of the year he was tightened two. Right
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: now he's tightened four on their depth chart. They've so
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: they've made a massive like stride there. So if Borkicher
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: can come in and just be compident enough to catch
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: a pass, if they throw it his way and he's
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: open and run block, that's an upgrade for them. And honestly,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: that draft glass he drafted so many guys. If he
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: hits on a couple of the Day three guys, nobody's
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: gonna talk about Nate Borkicher in the second round. I
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: like their receivers they got on Day three and Josh
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Cameron and CJ.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Williams.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: They're probably not guys that'll play much this year, but
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: in a year or two, I think they're gonna be
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: guys people are paying attention to.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: So nobody's gonna even be worried about that anymore.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: You want to know what's crazy. Hunter Long caught the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: first touchdown of the season for a thirteen to four team,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and I would just like to say, shout out BC
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Eagles and sh out the state of New Hampshire, thank
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you for that one.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: They catch another one as the season went. I don't
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I don't remember a lot think unter long moments.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: He got injured like week three or four, and that
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: was kind of that was kind of it for him,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But he was He had a really weird career. I
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: think he got drafted by Miami, went to LA came
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville like he was all over the place.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think after he got healthy again,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: they never put him back in the.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Games first touch on him the season thought off.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm not saying this just to suck up
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to you guys, but I think the best way to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: bet the Jags this year. I have a couple. I'll
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: save one for the end of the episode, but let's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: go all in thirty to one to win the Super Bowl.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Those odds, to me are out of whack. When you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: compare this team with other teams in the AFC, the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Chargers are seventeen to one. What's the difference. The Texans,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: who I like, are eighteen to one. You have the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Jags thirty Lawrence.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Can win a playoff game. In comparison to freaking Justin Herbert,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I get.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Positive regression into terms of edge rush. Trevor Lawrence with
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the second year of a good system, which we've never
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: seen what that looks like.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: The offensive line scares me.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: The line does scare me a little bit, but I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: do trust sometimes what can overcome bad line play is
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: really good play calling.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: And I do try and get somebody in here.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: And Travis Hunter, speaking of f them picks, Travis Hunter
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: is barely a factor. Last year and now he is.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: So that's my best way to bet the Jags thirty
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to one to win the Bowl. What about you, Kendra?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Once again, I think the over is probably the way
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: that I look here. My concern, God forbid, the lack
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: of quarterback depth, even if he goes down for a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: single play, scares the fucking shit out of me.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for me to say religiously that you
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: can't bet on the No.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I love the over, but like, even if Trevor like
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: needs a playoff, I'm like, let's move.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: To the Tennessee Titans. You know, for a minute there
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: under Jeff Fisher, years later with Mike Rabel, they were
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the model of consistency in the NFL, but that has
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: flown out the window in recent years. For the fourth
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: straight year, they have either a new head coach or
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a new general manager or both that are on the scene.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: This year it's Robert Sala, who I thought never got
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: a fair shake with the New York Jets. I really
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like their direction. I just don't love the Titans roster
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: compared to the other rosters within this division. So it's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: hard for me to all the way by in with Tennessee.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Just because I don't think they stack up all that well. Jamal,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Are you more on the optimistic or pessimistic side when
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it comes to the Tennessee Titans.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Pessimistic.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I'm more optimistic on CJ or on cam Ward than
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: anything else. I mean, I think the Titans roster struggles.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I think it's better than it was a year ago,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: but it's still not where it needs to be. Cam
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Ward was dealt such a bad hand a year ago,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: and even fair, I mean, he was tossing the football
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: to guys that I mean shouldn't have been catching passes,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: and undrafted free agents playing at wide receiver at that
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: point that they're leaning on. Is just a tough spot
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: for the Titans, and I think they're still deep in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: that rebuild.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I'm on the opposite side of you here. I'm actually
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: a little nervous about the Titans. Do I think that
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: this is the best roster in the world. No, But
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: with the coaching and with the upgrades of weapons for
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: cam Ward, this gives me the vibe of a Titans
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: team where you gotta be careful because they might just
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: pop you in the mouth while you're not thinking about it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: That is my fear with them in any divisional situation.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: That being said, I've mentioned that I like the upgrades
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: on the offense weapon wise for cam Ward. I like
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the addition of gunner Helm. I loved they reached for
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Carnell Tait at that spot instead of doing something that
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: we all expected Robert Sala to do, which was draft
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: someone on defense. What's your bigger concern for them here,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the offense or the defense.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I think the offen is gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Coach Dable going in there as the offensive coordinat, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: think he's gonna get a lot of good work out
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  Speaker 4: of camp Ward. I think their defense is still a
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: work in progress. But you know, Robert Sala is a
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: defensive guy. He's going to be in the trenches with
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: those guys trying to get the most out of them.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're ready to get there just yet,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: but I am a huge believer in that first year
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: coach juice, Like, nobody knows exactly what this coaching staff
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: wants to do. Generally, you can come out of the
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: out of the gates and punch some folks in the mouth,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: like you said, I mean so maybe maybe.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I still feel like there are maybe a year away
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: and they're rebuild from really being able to go out
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: there and compete.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Robert sala Is hiring. Do
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you think that him not finding success with the Jets
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: says more about the Jets or do you think it
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: says more about Robert Salad just because he's been such
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: a consistent defensive guy for the forty nine ers and
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the Jets obviously are the Jets. Where do you land
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: in the middle of those two situations.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Can it be a little bit of a both, right?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I mean sure, I think it's a little bit of both.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I think there are guys that just aren't head coaches.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I think Dennis Allen is one of the best defensive
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: coordinators in the NFL. I think he's a terrible head coach.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: There are people where you just need to just coordinate,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: stick to one side the football. Looking at it from
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: the top down isn't for them. And we'll see. This
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: is gonna be Robert Saliz probably last crack at being
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: a head coach in the NFL. Either it's gonna work
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: or he's gonna be back to being a coordinator. And
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I think he's a really good coordinator. So that's the
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: tough spot where he finds himself and they are guys
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: that that's where and there's another.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Wrong being a really good coordinator.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Is Josh McDaniels.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mc daniels.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I think Brandon Staley is one of the guys that
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I think of, love him as the DC for New
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Orleans who was a disaster in LA.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, my coaching follow up, do you put anything into
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the bald militia? Do you think that they are all
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: bald on purpose to make to just come together and
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: fully get a singular follicle of hair to try and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: find success or do you think that he just made
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the best hires that he could he could regardless of
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: their hairstyles.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I can say, let me answer this first of them all,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: as a bald guy, we do have a preference towards
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the other. We do big time. Okay, there's like a
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: there's an unspoken brotherhood between us.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: An unspoken brotherhood is crazy, but you know what, maybe
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: he was just trying to put together a gang for
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: after the games, just in case he needs them for
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen if they get into it again.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Because now you got to see him twice a year.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Wax on, wax off.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Let's see what the what is the upside of this
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans scene. I'm looking at the depth chart and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I love the moves they've made. They've invested a lot
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in the offense over the last couple of years. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: think a fun offensive team that struggles to stop anyone
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: on defense, that is at their best in the hunt
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: when we're having Christmas games on Netflix, that kind of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: feels like the upside of the Tennessee Titans. Do you
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: think they can at least get to that point? Yeah?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I think that feels about right.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: If cam Ward can put it together, which I think
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: he can, and they've got him some better wide receivers. Now,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: if Carneal Tate is what they expect him to be
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: out there, that offense should be able to put some
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: points on the board and at least be fun to
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: watch to where they can get to December and at
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: least be talking about a wild card playing meaningful games
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: in December. Yeah, I think I think that's best case scenario,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that's realistic.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: So for men, your offensive Rookie of the Year question.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Mark, Okay, I like that, I think is that would
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you say best way to bet the Titans. Carnell tit
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the Year, I think, so I don't
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: mind that at all. I don't know a lot of
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: people flocking to the window on vibes. If Mendoza doesn't
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: play one of these and Jeremiah Love's offense stinks because
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: he's on the Cardinals.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I think I don't think that's gonna happen. Carson Back
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: might be my pull. Actually, to be completely transparent with you.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I thought that you had already placed that, so oh
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I should though, thank you.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: For reminding me you got it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Anytime I still need to place that Kellen Moore Coach
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: of the Year bet. I think if I have them
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: in the hunt, I'd at least like to be holding
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: onto that ticket. This is one of those bets where
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I think, I think it's smart to pick a couple
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: of teams that nobody expects to make it to the postseason.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Just plant your flag to use the branding of this
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: show on those teams at a really good number. The
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Titans plus five point fifty to be a wild card
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: team is a really fun look. Now, specifically to make
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the wild card, you actually get a better number on
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: them as specifically a wild card than to make the
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: playoffs is plus three forty. They're not winning this division.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: If they sneak in, it'll be via the wild card
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: plus five point fifty Titans make the playoffs. I'll cross
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: my fingers on that one, though It'll be a long shot.
• 53:55
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• 54:05
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• 54:10
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  Speaker 1: It's been fun, a lot of fun. Thanks so much
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: to Mell A phenomenal get Kendra. He was a ton
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: of fun to talk to. Let's plant our flag on
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the AFC South might get a shut up.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to plant my flag here.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're really planning your flag in that thing. We
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: gave our best bet per team, but what about the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: best overall bet in the division? What is the absolute
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: best way to bet the AFC South.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I want to know if people will kill me if
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I take the Titans over, because I think that that
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: might be the best way. However, I am looking for
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a price for a Chris Rodriguez Week one right now.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: So the Titans' strength of schedule wise sits smack dab
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the league. That doesn't lead us
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: into any particular direction. But I'm holding a ticket on
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: them to be a wildcard team. So I'm certainly not
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the person that can provide too much pushback. We see
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: teams that come out of nowhere every year. Who the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: hell expected the Patriots to do what they did last
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: year or the Commanders to make it to the NFC
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Title Game two years ago. I don't think the ceiling
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: is quite that high for cam Ord and the Titans,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: but I do think they can be significantly better.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I pulled a really good stat yesterday. The Seahawks heading
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: into last season were sixty to one to win the
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I believe the last team to have odds
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: greater than that. I believe were the Rams in nineteen
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: ninety nine. I think they were like one hundred and
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: fifty to one.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: That was not to make this about the Falcons. That
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was when we started having that conversation. It was leading
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: into Super Bowl Sunday, and I said, who next year?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: That's sitting around the sixties In between sixty and eighty
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to one range. Do I think could improve enough to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: be competitive in a Super Bowl situation. That's how I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: plucked the Falcons out of thin air. I don't think
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the Titans are a good candidate for that, but I
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: do think they'd be a good candidate for team that
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: sneaks into the postseason when nobody expected it. I don't
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: mind it at all. For me. I'm gonna go over
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: on your Jacksonville Jaguars. But right now the over over
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and you're sitting at eight and a half juice to
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the over. I want to kick this up to nine
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and a half and take the plus one twenty. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: don't expect another thirteen wins this year, but I do
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: expect them to stay in the mix. The coaching staff
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: is too good, the roster is too talented. I think
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the addition of Travis Hunter feels like a new player
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: on this team, and the positive regression that I talked
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: about in terms of the pass rush, I think this
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: team's gonna be really, really good.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I am manifesting health. That's it.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Just stay healthy, they stay healthy. We won't have a
• 56:54
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• 56:57
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