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Jane Searle: Children's Commissioner on the inquiry into the Tom Phillips manhunt · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Tom Phillips report police in Oranga Tamariki missed multiple chances
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  Speaker 1: to protect the kids, including a member of the public
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  Speaker 1: picking Phillips up into their car, tipping off officials, police
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  Speaker 1: then cancelling the call out. Police also failed to act
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  Speaker 1: on firearms warnings, but authorities sided with Phillips over the
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  Speaker 1: kid's mum.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate now that the mum obviously had concerns about
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  Speaker 2: firearm safety and we could have done a better search
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  Speaker 2: for firearms.
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  Speaker 1: Jane Searle, Children's Commissioner with me this morning. Jane, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, good morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything tangible, practical come out of this that
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  Speaker 1: you think we should be doing and worrying about?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think there are. I think this report shows
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  Speaker 3: what we've known for some time, that we need better
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  Speaker 3: coordination between government agencies and we need to make sure
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  Speaker 3: the right information is being shared.
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  Speaker 1: What information wasn't being shared?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the report didn't say that the Oranga Tamariki and
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  Speaker 3: the police weren't sharing information, but it said they weren't
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  Speaker 3: sharing all the information they needed. So at critical times,
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  Speaker 3: there were certain points that should have been shared between
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  Speaker 3: the agencies. This isn't a new problem. And as I say,
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  Speaker 3: we've known this for some time. So the report's quite
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  Speaker 3: clear that that coordination needs to be better. And that
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  Speaker 3: would go across a lot of government agencies.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be people out there right now who are in such,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there'll be parents who aren't good parents. who
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  Speaker 1: are doing things to their children, harming their children or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It's very hard for the government, with its siloed lots
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  Speaker 1: of different departments, lots of different agencies, it's very hard
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  Speaker 1: for them to, in real time, actually be effective about this,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not easy, and cases like this one in
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  Speaker 3: particular are very complex. However, it can be done, and
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  Speaker 3: there are instances when it can be done. I remember
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  Speaker 3: when I was a police detective working with Oranga Tamariki
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  Speaker 3: closely on cases. So it certainly is the best way
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  Speaker 3: to approach it because each agency brings its own lens
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  Speaker 3: and own expertise.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, interesting stuff. Jane, good to have you on the
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  Speaker 1: show this morning. Jane Sill, the Children's Commissioner on the.
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