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Touré Roberts EXPOSES What Most Christians Still Don’t Understand About Knowing God · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have not seen come on here's have not heard the things that got prepared for those of us who love them that's first Corinthians chapter two so we'll never done so we look at that and we go to heaven immediately we like yes how to do and it's true got this is one of the but that's not the context
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[SPEAKER_03]: The context is revealed in a second verse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, so he says, I have not seen or he is heard, nor has it entered in the heart of the things that God has prepared for those who love him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, but they have been revealed to us by his spirit, his spirit searches, the deep things of God, yeah, you know, you gotta study all things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that we might know the things that are freely given to us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are things that you will know, not by what you see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your eyes can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your ears can't hear it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And quite frankly, your heart can't even perceive it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's deeper than that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a knowing that God gives you, I saw the world like going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I saw the effect that the world going crazy was having on people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not my testimony.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not my poor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: come on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm talking about because I have it knowing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know and I'm cultivating that knowing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So why they're watching running from trouble, I'm seeing the opportunity in the trouble.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The question becomes, is can we be anchored in knowing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What we have been practicing all these years we've been practicing in church We've been practicing in culture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been practicing with our disciplines We've been practicing with the Word of God and now it's game time the question becomes is where you practice in for real Or were you just pretending?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So now you don't have a knowing that was supposed to be there when this time presented
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey family, love you more, show your nephew, Willie Moore, Jr., but before we get started today, I want to tell you this, how much I appreciate all of the thousands of subscribers at the Lord's Allowance to have right here on the platform.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a long way to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So what I want to do is I want to challenge you right now to subscribe to the channel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stop, window shopping, and go ahead and become a part of the flat out family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What that does, it gives the people at large and this crazy thing called the algorithm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It tells them that, hey, that this is very important to you and people at large, and it expands on territory.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you can be a part of this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I wanna encourage you to subscribe to this channel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now, if we can be very honest right now, there's some unique times in these United States of America.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And many of you all have suffered through job loss.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and you can't afford your medicine anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've heard your cry and that's why I partner with my friends at RX Outreach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now this is a non-profit organization that is designed to make sure that you get your medicine for little or no calls.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You say, Willie, I have no insurance, no problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You say, Willie, I can't spend out in money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It used to be $8,000, $8,000 a month.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_04]: it won't be that much to thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want you to do is be healthy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But until you can get it's healthy as you need, I want to make sure that you get your medicine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All you got to do is go to rxoutreach.org, right here on the screen, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But call this number, right here on the screen, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do not want you to suffer in silence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: every day, people are forced to make impossible choices.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So if the price of medication has been holding you back, baby, listen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanna encourage you to go now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Flat out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, indeed, family, it's your nephew, William O'June and let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so excited, you know, full transparency, as you can see, we're not in that pretty little studio, but we made our own.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes you have to just stay ready so you don't have to get ready.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Today I get the esteemed privilege to hang out with a man that I've watched from afar for a long time, even when he was in LA with one church and then seeing him build his own personal brand in the midst of
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[SPEAKER_04]: of everything that was going on with church in this life, and in the maridist, wife of his dreams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So many things have happened since I watched him when I was literally running back and forth to LA.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so grateful right now that I get the esteemed privilege to hang out with my brother from another mother.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Torrey Roberts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on, Cherokee?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, first of all, thank you so much for having me here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thank you for being here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm watching you move and navigate and the unique thing you bring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a blessing and it's necessary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just honored to be here, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, the honor is all mine.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When I got the call, I was like, oh, we ought to get this thing done.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's spring break for our children.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we running around and they're in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we doing this, I said, man, I got to get back to make sure that I get the opportunity to sit down with wisdom.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I've gotten an opportunity to see you on stages, like what you don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: is that when I was going back to LA and running back and forth as a secular artist, like there were people like Crystal Lee and other people who were working and one church was really the thing, like it was the coolest thing that people of our age could really go to a steel field accepted in culture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a collab between culture and Christianity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like how hard was it for you to kind of separate yourself from that and go to the next thing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was um...
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[SPEAKER_03]: it was not hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now tell you why.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I never wanted to build something around me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I always would tell the pastors that I was raising up under me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to work myself out of a job for a number of reasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One is if the ministry
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[SPEAKER_03]: is reliant upon me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't do everything that I'm called to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was a businessman before I was a pastor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was an entrepreneur before a pastor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so the church was very, very important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It'll get me wrong in that city to have a grounded place that you can connect with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is valuable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I wasn't going to let it go down, but it was never built with me at the center in mind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why even now, you know, my planet, you know, Dr. Neda is a senior pastor over there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, she's killing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still growing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still got the same tone and flavor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not me, but the culture of the church is still impactful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm out here doing my other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, Torrey, where do you come from initially?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Where's your home?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, LA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm from LA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I was born in Northern Cal, but raised up in LA, South Central Watts to be in particular.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, so people like somebody asked me at the day, like who is Torrey?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just pause, man, because
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've had so many lives growing up in Watts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it was a whole life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But if I take you back before that, I was going my parents were Black Panthers in the Bay Area of Oakland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was born into the culture of revolution.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, it was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So born into the culture revolution, then moved to Watts and that was a whole new thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Watts growing up in Watts in the 80s and 90s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's definitely popping over there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I mean, you know, I got shot when I was 16.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You get the wrong place and wrong time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wrong place and wrong time, but I was pushing the limits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You trying to be tough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's my tough, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tough thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was, look, I was, because, but here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was normal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know, even I think about the criminal justice system, like one of the reasons why we know there needs to be reformed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But one of the reasons is that people if the subculture of a community,
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[SPEAKER_03]: is to be entrepreneurial in a way that involves weed and drugs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the subculture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not going to school saying this is wicked evil, but this is probably the best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I mean, the gangsters were our heroes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were our celebrities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the point that I'm making is,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you were shaped in that way that this is what success looks like, then even as you go through the penal system, there should be some consideration about the fact that, maybe this is a good guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's just in a situation that has shaped him in the particular way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And just to take that, I'm not exonerating or, you know, trying to free anybody from, you know, do punishment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But nuance is everything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's true and I'm so grateful that you said it because I was going to make a joke when I first moved it at late Yeah, we was in white.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we want to go get our weed back then.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I spoke.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here was that well, yeah, you know to be honest when you said that like I'm from St. Louis, Missouri.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so coming from St. Louis, our hero was the dope man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then with the people that we actually sang, success.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like my daddy, he did his best.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They adopted me when I was three months old.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He worked as a housekeeper.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My mom worked as a housekeeper.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And although they kept the lights on, when it came to the glitz and glamour, dabbing in was getting it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you looking at that light, either you gonna do that or you gonna find something to get you there to do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just so happened for me that it was music.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did the 16 year old Torrey?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_04]: finally prick entrepreneurship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, even though that may not have been the thing that was so cool, but I sell to something that may put you in jail, my family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I had chores, but they would give me extra chores like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: cutting the grass, washing the cars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if I did that, I made money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it wasn't just trading a time and energy and effort for resources.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're washing cars, you got to buy soap.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to buy all these sort of things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I learned how to purchase certain things that a certain cost knowing that this thing maybe 99 cents for a little bit of, I mean, it was some janky car wash stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was like this washing, they could be out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But so you're learning to buy supplies at a discount, you train time, you're telling people about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's marketing, that's a product management, that's inventory.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I literally learned how to be an entrepreneur and start it with my family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now with the other stuff, that was applying to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just, you know, I think that the community gets a bad rap because I can tell you right now that there was some evil cats in the hood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But to be honest with you, we didn't really fool with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you know, like we would like you crazy and we were kind of glad when the police can pick you up to you to jail Yeah, because we life is better on a block without you, but but the average guy was a good guy Honorable guy not out trying to rob still kill anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They just were in the culture of making money I'd have provided for themselves and I just feel like
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they just get a bad rap.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So even now of what I'm doing with entrepreneurs, a lot of times I scholarship these opportunities for people who are in the neighborhood who need that insight and that knowledge, that same ingenuity, that same spark you got.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, let me show you how to put it in this lane and and and and and Proverbs 1022 it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The blessing of the Lord it makes rich and he has no sorrow with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me show you how to get rich without sorrow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, when you say it, say you're rich, how important is picking the right woman when you're on your journey?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, it's everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have no better, there's no more consequential relationship that you have than the person you pick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, hands down because they are you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They need to be your safe place, but not only that, they're your mirror.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They get close enough to you to know you, to tell when you're off, they can add something to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So man, it's everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thank God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody asked me other day about my wife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just looking at her earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, baby, I just thank God for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you truly are my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are the young to my young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And relationships every day make you a break you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the converts to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: as picking a wrong person now, you get you drained, you stressed, they're not helping you, they're hurting you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a terrible place to be in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever been in a relationship that felt so draining that you had to get out of?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I could think about that in the business where in the business space, like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it doesn't just have to be relational to the intimacy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, this partner's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you've come in and fired up, you know, you got a vision and either they are un-excellent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: or, or, or, or, or negative.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now can now you take it away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Relationships are supposed to accelerate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What, what, what you got going on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is supposed to enhance, accelerate, be fruitful and multiply.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, my, my every relationship in my life with the exception of my kids and my kids to a certain degree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But every relationship that I choose has to be a relationship that when we come together, we're both better as a result of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: you have this identity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, now that I know you from what, I know where you really from.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you say from the Bay Area too, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'll pray for them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to give you this Christian culture to the positive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Your team there, you got a big guy, I don't want no problem.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when I look at foundation where you are and you grow up in the home with mom and dad, it's like, you have your own identity and you have your own ventures.
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[SPEAKER_04]: most men with that type of stature, they choose a woman that may be somewhere that just to follow.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How easier hard is it for you to have such a dominant force on your side to the world?
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[SPEAKER_04]: But then you also have this huge identity before you even came into this, Mary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like how do you humble yourself and she humble herself because most powerful men get a trophy and not somebody who is next to them and actually hold a strong conversation to help them in entrepreneurship as well as leadership and ministry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think there's a couple of things one out of very, very strong mother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My mother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, your mom was strong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My mom is strong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's she's like my wife a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's silent in the background Sarah who she is on stage is different
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[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't say a lot of words, but when she speaks, the words are powerful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's one, two is I, as a relates to my wife in particular, you know, there are two Josephs in the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One of them, when you ask a man what Joseph they want to be, they're like, oh, easy man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joseph number two in Egypt, you know, he's ballin' out of control.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We own everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was, you know, he was mastering the economy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He had the reins of the economy and he prospered.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joseph, you know, all the ministry, I'm a Joseph, I'm a Joseph, but that was another Joseph that was greater to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the Joseph who was married to Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what Joseph did was Joseph created a space for Mary.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He created an environment that allowed her to flourish.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it wasn't for Joseph, she wouldn't have the space to birth the Messiah that would save him ultimately as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Joseph and Egypt, but I'm also that other Joseph and I think that by the time I met Sarah, you know, there's a lot of inner work, you talked about identity, there's a lot of inner work, if you know who you are and you ain't got nothing to prove.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are comfortable with making space for greatness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did it in with the artists in LA at one church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's there several people who came out of that church and I do an incredible things and listen, I wouldn't try to keep them in the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them were musicians and they were like, they came to me on nervous PTO got this opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, go on tour with social media.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God will provide for the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, they went on and win Grammys, both type platinum and guess what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Became some of the greatest givers in the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and it's not so much about them giving back, but it's about me not holding people back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've learned man, when you free, you can encourage, you can let go, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch, you know, my wife, you know, when I married Sarah, when I met Sarah, she was Sarah Jakes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is a difference between Sarah Jakes and Sarah Jakes Roberts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you just track it, Sarah Jakes was not preaching.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was blogging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was blogging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She was blogging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sarah J. Roberts evolved into a power, one of the most, see, one of my favorite creatures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Powerful preacher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You write.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, many of all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There was none of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not taking credit for, but I'm not saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about the right connection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The right connection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She came to her first time preaching was that one church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She cut her teeth at one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I create a space create space what when who showed who showed you this because culture yeah Yeah culture is saying Culture teaches you you know these four no more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is what we do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is how we do who taught you this level of humility
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I can, I can attribute it to, I can attribute that answer to one person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His name was Reverend Solomon Drake of, of, he's, he's gone on to be with the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a credible man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got saved under him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One, he taught me integrity and he taught me to trust in the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You ain't gotta be out as a preacher, handing out your business cards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God's gonna provide.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: At the same time, he also did not really fully understand what God was doing with me, when God was calling me to do greater things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He had never seen it before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that that
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to call it ignorance because that feels irreparable, but that lack of knowledge about what to do with me also put me in a confined space.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he taught me integrity and the trust in God, but he also taught me what not to do with someone who has greatness on them that you don't quite know what to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, so what I mean by that is that my mission was to never be never be so small that I can't create space for greatness that's beyond what I can personally manage.
18:39
[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, Sarah, I'm just encouraged.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pushing her because I see what's on her.
18:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw what was on it for the first day I met her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This before I fell in love with, I saw what was on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What attracted me to her was the fact that I knew she was carrying something that she didn't recognize.
18:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that the church was going to kill her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because I'm used to pastoring celebrities that the church loves to kill.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna be honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I saw that in her and I'm thinking of myself, oh man, we better stay connected because the submonior life, and if it doesn't get tainted or corrupted, it's gonna be great, but it's gonna be great in a way that will make you the centerpiece of attack from the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so my thing, that's why I've like, come speak in my church, I'm gonna show you your try.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a, he has something, now you got a visual now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's crazy walk that he by the puts you on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, not so, it's so for me.
19:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's my whole thing now.
19:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Like my, you know, I have a book coming out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I interviewed with someone.
19:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I was on their podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have a book coming out right after mine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I heard about his book, I'm like, man, I gotta find a way to promote your book.
19:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll make this podcast about your book.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's who I am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause I feel like what God has for me.
19:54
[SPEAKER_03]: is for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if I get behind people and I push them and I mean this ain't no fake community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, I understand you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I push them and they come to fruition, we're all in.
20:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we just get mad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's somebody planting a church in LA, you know, and this is probably 10, 10 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of my buddies said, man, aren't you mad about that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would shock at the question, I'm like, why would I be mad at somebody planting a church?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the goodness, the kingdom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was shocked that I was a man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was shocked that he expected me to be mad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody shocked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, because first of all, LA California, 20 million people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you even talk to them about it?
20:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And how many go to your turn, 500 people going to be out of two thousand in mind?
20:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, wow, you know, so I didn't get that curse.
20:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get that jealous, you know, want to keep people small to make me big curse.
20:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I didn't get that.
20:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, you know, I was just talking to my kind of part of white stone and he tells me he said, when I tell you good news, I have to tell you not to tell the world.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what you mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I get so excited when I see people like winning.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like, well, how much you want me to tell because I'm gonna be on the Netflix and the radio's like, you heard what it did and I might ask some sauce to Yeah, and he fucked the biggest one on the block, you know, I just get so excited about that and to be honest It's so natural to you, so I know it was real because it's a bridge to my heart because like
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[SPEAKER_04]: just know that that's a rarity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't really feel no competition because I'm in my own land.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I can celebrate everybody else in this world because I believe at God's time and he's gonna like, I'm gonna be obedient, my discipline is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And my children think I'm that hero.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So everything else is like, yo, like, great win, yo, go win.
21:51
[SPEAKER_04]: My question to you now, like having to navigate such a huge platform, but then also having to navigate fatherhood.
21:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, there is no such thing as balancing my opinion.
21:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I tell people to divorce themselves from it, like work in what you have to work in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can't get 20 here 10, 15 there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You have to live in that moment in priority managed.
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[SPEAKER_04]: However, how do you keep fatherhood your priority in the midst of all of the other plates that you have to carry?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have an identity statement that I read every day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a 12 point identity statement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it tells me it reminds me every day of who I am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Number two on that list.
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[SPEAKER_03]: on my kids.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they literally are my priority.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it comes down to what do they need?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what systems, what structures have I put in place to make sure that they get what they need?
22:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm a part of that system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My wife is part of that system, or the staff is part of that system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To your point, I'm watching it every single day.
22:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not just, hey, how you doing, how was your day?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm really telling me about your day.
22:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because if I see you, if I feel you, and I can feel all of you, I can tell who to tip the percentage over to in that particular moment.
23:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same with work with church, business, you know, I still oversee one, we have pastor at one, but I still oversee it, but I'm just looking over at it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been in it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Potosiles, you know, a massive organization, made my wife co-past, a bishop is still the covering bishop, have a robust staff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a good, so I have good systems that give me the information that I need to help me to understand where...
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[SPEAKER_03]: the pain points are and where I am needed.
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And it may not be that I am needed.
23:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I might send something going over here and I call my chief executive business officer and say, hey, there's something going on there going do that.
23:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, I have my life structured in such a way where I can proceed.
23:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I have alarms.
23:50
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, and I know what those alarms are because of the way I've laid everything out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so it tells me what to respond to, what not to respond to, or sometimes someone else will respond to my behalf.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That makes sense.
24:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:03
[SPEAKER_04]: So when you, when you're going through this like these alarms,
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you have so much to carry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What if the alarm is at home with wife?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Four Chinese parents.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was married for 15 years in the house and took forever for a two.
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[SPEAKER_04]: um, dissipate like it was a long journey.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't know I had any type of money into I went through uncomfortable and it was unique.
24:31
[SPEAKER_04]: But when I look back, I realized that like man, I wasn't really strong in the alerts.
24:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so ambitious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love to build things.
24:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
24:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I see these visions and I realize I had limited time here on earth.
24:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I could find myself running so hard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can tell everybody like, hey, this is where we're going.
24:50
[SPEAKER_04]: People love to see me looking in the sky and so I say them, this is what's going to look like in five years now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to do this and this is what we do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like everybody loves the vision.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But when I would get home, it was like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody else is excited about this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Stay in line and let's go and I realize later that's not the way it goes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I wasn't really paying attention to the alarms.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do you pay attention to the alarms when you have one church?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Entrepreneurship ventures, a child who wants to live here, college is there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then it's an alarm when I come home to bro.
25:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like the tenderism guy like you got to take it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like how does how does Torrey,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Stewart that type of a law.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my wife is my best friend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's dope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She truly is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have we share worlds and we have separate worlds that have integration, but there's still separate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day is me and her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like so she's taping out here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm on
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look at an eyes, how you doing, we, we are so tight and here's another thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: transparently when we were moving from L.A. to come to Dallas and we knew what that was going to be or we thought we knew but we knew it was going to be major.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We made a covenant like yo, we ain't going to let this thing do harm to our marriage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not just that thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll many of all call leaders this investment stuff that I'm doing overseas stuff that I'm doing if any at any point in time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: this begin to affect us, we'll sell it all, be in a one bedroom apartment eating chicken wings, before we let any of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't believe that God would have us doing something that's going to destroy us.
26:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's our litmus to how are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if we're not doing good, we'll say notice some things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: guy, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe we got to fly, you know, hey, let's, let's, let's take a minute and spend a couple days together because when we're working good, everything else works good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So do you do you schedule in like breaks and stuff like that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we're going to break and we're going to go vacation and just so how often does it, does that have to happen to keep a strong relationship normally?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to
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[SPEAKER_03]: do you real answer?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we used to do it a whole like schedule.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Turks, overseas.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, excellent.
27:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We used to do it like way more than we do it now.
27:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but for whatever reason we just have a bit of sense, we took over church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so what we do is, man, we have
27:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, so like, yeah, we work today, you know, like, you know, I leave you, we don't go get some dinner, you know, hang out and have fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So so sometimes you can't always do that old, ultra romantic, hop on a plane to that.
27:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you got to just get in where you fit in, take whatever you got, just make it into something.
27:52
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I love it.
27:53
[SPEAKER_04]: You talk a little bit about church and having to protect your wife and then also the musicians at large, being a musician and, you know, doing entertainment sectors, even by the time this airs, it'll probably be like all viral because Willy went on stage with the R&B group pretty Ricky.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He came with his son, his old songs and all that other stuff by the time this comes, I'm sure that stuff will be viral and shaving and working.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's supposed to be, he's supposed to be how, like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why has church culture become something that has been so the culture being covered like being the covenant versus God creating missions for his strong soldiers, soldiers that are equipped to go out and influence the influential.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why does culture and church bash that so much and so against that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna give you a real answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna give you two real answers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna give you a biblical answer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: First.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't know those who find their ministry to exalt themselves and to be little other Christians because they're not flowing in the grace that they think that they ought to be flowing in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: are not of this spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a person's scripture in the Bible where Jesus the site, he sends his disciples out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They find some other disciples out there doing healing, preaching whatever, you know the book.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, and so they try to say, hey, y'all, Jesus is the one that goes, Jesus, and y'all come with us and like, no, we're going to keep doing what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They go by to Jesus, that was some folk out there, and they wouldn't do it our way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, should we, you know, should we do something to him, Jesus?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't even know what spirit you're of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're the wrong spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, that's one reason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're other wrong spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got unhealthy people with microphones.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they're flat out jealous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Straight out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, and then the other thing is, and this is deeper, and this is something that just came to me, right now, social media culture rewards that the algorithm rewards controversy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It rewards attacking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of these cats don't even know what they're feeding into the algorithm by being
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[SPEAKER_03]: can tankerous by being, you know, by, you know, is it you ain't in that everybody's showing it, so they don't even realize that they're actually being played by the algorithm spinning their time, this stuff is going viral, talking about other believers, not realizing that working for the enemy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus was like, look man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to be one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The prayer of Jesus was to be one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The prayer of Paul, Ephesians 4, says, says, endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit to keep it is the Spirit has already won.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to fight to keep it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how is he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, we're loneliness, we're long suffering for bearing with one another.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when I see a preacher attacking other preachers, I'm like, man, you missed it.
30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You, you, you, you really really missed it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: why do you have to tear a, you don't have to agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a difference between disagreeing and attacking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You won't see me attacking the preaches.
30:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: when they attack you.
30:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I know, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I always had like a, like you know, and I see you in passing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, dude, same like he cool, you know, real cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, what you think of him?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, you know, he cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I realized he would watch about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We said bad, I was like, well, he was saving me with that light.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what he makes it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've had difficulty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: with this platform, because with social media, like every word can just come out to your mouth.
31:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I got my Christian values that I have deeply rooted myself, man, like I really follow Holy Spirit.
31:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't package it like a lot of people, but man, Holy Spirit, man, he is, man, like I really navigate through Holy Spirit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anything I'm occupying, like, my team really knows, like, man, man, I think Holy Spirit doing this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a little afraid, but let's go, you know, whatever he wants to do, but then it's that same Louis guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that when they say the wrong day, yeah, yeah.
31:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I've went through communication class, I'm learning new breathing techniques and all of this other stuff, like I'm breathing and you breathe into eyes and shout out to Jefferson Fisher, I love your coach and how do you navigate them shooting their arrows?
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[SPEAKER_04]: and a person with a pure heart who was set up space for a wife to flourish to set up space for artists to flourish to set up space for private conversations that could never make it to this podcast for others to flourish.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but to be shot at in such a fashion online, how do you navigate through through the watch, Torrey, and the man of God, Torrey, you said it, you said to her, you said pure heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you know that your heart is pure, when you know that you're in tensions of pure, when you know that your actions of pure, you're not claiming perfection.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not saying to Jesus, but you know that you truly are a good person, to treat people well, you love God for real, you literally die for God, and to many respects you have given up many things for the cause of Christ.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you know that within yourself,
32:57
[SPEAKER_03]: it settles you it's really i'm not saying that that that i see something and it doesn't take me a minute to get it out of my head i'm not i'm not i'm human but but what i come back to is
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know who I am and I know who God knows that I am and I realize that most of the people that have the time to attack you are miserable, they are freaking miserable or jealous or sad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now I kind of almost feel sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: for them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, bring it like, like, yeah, like, who hurt you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you, you know, end into also realize that how you feel about me doesn't take anything away from me.
33:40
[SPEAKER_03]: See, that's why a lot of people can't forgive because they feel like whatever that person did was something that I can never get back.
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You can say something, you can record a video, you can use my name to get some views.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You can, you can misinterpret my motives and my intentions and get it all wrong, but you can't take that for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll tell you what, I heard somebody say once,
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[SPEAKER_03]: those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm too focused on what I know I've got going on and God will always have people that see you like I see you really like we we met in person for the first time in at that event yeah backstage and I saw you I saw
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your heart is pure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was I'm gonna get us in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So just let me get at it cool.
34:39
[SPEAKER_03]: We interviewed my wife interview Miss Pat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: I told her at the end of the interview, and of course she had a few words, but it was a beautiful interview.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When she just being herself, I made a point to walk up to her after we finished rapping.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I looked in her eyes, I said, you know what?
34:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I've been pastoring for 24 years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, ma'am, and you are one of the most godliest people I've ever met.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It blew her away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She stumbled.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and it was true, because she was the truth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She talked about what she'd overcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She gave God the glory, the credit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She took Andy's children that she didn't have to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: knowing, I know when somebody has God, she may not fit into church culture, she may not fit into the religious system, but I'm telling you, that woman is Godly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Glory to God, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know what it causes?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It causes a level of rebellion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like when people get a call, and sometimes they just gotta like, you take the Torah Ray, a William O. Jr., of just somebody to say, oh, man, I see God in you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I see that so many times, people are just in tears crying
35:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Ross and God and yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I get beat up because I'll take the opportunity on the mat like I was on tour with tonight's conversation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I bring it to my, because I have a personal board.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, hey guys, this is what is doing to this, this is this, this is what I think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, what's the heart of it?
36:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't need, I mean, I want some money, but I don't need to go out to get money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to go, I don't want to be seen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm working so I don't have to be seen, right?
36:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's not my desire, but I feel like Holy Spirit has challenged me to sit on these stages because I come from there, to speak the language and be able to sense people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, they don't get an opportunity to see what's happening backstage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't get an opportunity to see that while everybody is selling products, it's my Sabbath on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't get to see it because of my covenant with God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that I have a table with nothing there but prayer and communication.
36:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not saying it to be impresses, but it's like, when God gives you a mission, I think God should be running like my pastor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I get a chance to call him and say, hey man, I feel like God, I have fear Holy Spirit saying this to this, he's like, well, sound like God to be, and don't sound like you may sit.
36:54
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean because this is the guy that we serve like how like when it comes to to you as a pastor and you have Saying all of this stuff in culture what advice would you give to the body and large like What can we do to make sure that the people who have these amazing calls like miss Pat yeah
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[SPEAKER_04]: feel comfortable with their call and their mission that guys put their mind to not put God in a box.
37:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that you have to retreat from your way, but be humble enough to recognize that
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[SPEAKER_03]: It only looks like perfection to you because it is your calling.
37:39
[SPEAKER_03]: What I think about Peter and Paul, they had different callings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Peter was called to the Jews, to the religious people, to the people who were brought up in the culture of religion.
37:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul was called to the Gentiles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was called to the idolatres and that's why his language was different, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: His language was different so that he could reach more people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so so just just you don't have to not be you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to totally be you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But stop being so suspicious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: of someone who's way too God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't talking about Jesus not being the way, I'm not talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But their pattern to God is different from your pattern, because it takes us all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It takes the hard liners.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to hell, it takes some of that, because some people need to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're hell real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't mean to get there, but you also need someone who is prolific and profound about the love of God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, you know, and and the mercy of God and the grace of God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we all we need each other and if and if we stop fighting each other And also not just each other, but if we stop fighting the world, here's lesson say about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Bible says
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[SPEAKER_03]: is him gospel Matthew that Jesus saw the multitudes and it says he was moved with compassion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what was in that multitudes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: These weren't church folk?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Say for everything was in that and the Bible says he was moved with compassion and then he says the harvest is cleanest but the labor is a few.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Watch this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He called them harvest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He called what you would call sinful, wicked, they ain't got no place in the church.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All that kind of stuff, he said, that's harvest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have to get, so we have to get Jesus's eyes about people and see them as souls to be redeemed and we have to love them and we have to be honest about our prejudice, our prejudice about how we think it ought to go, how it ought to flow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to be honest about that, lay all that down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you do to win a soul?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How dirty will you with your hands get?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How, what would you do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You to win a soul, see him as harvest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See him as hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not as hellians.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Y'all got to give me a new bail.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they be even how I want to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But no, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See him as harvest.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And don't see him as hell.
40:09
[SPEAKER_04]: What was your encounter?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to write to the book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just curious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did you get here?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you have two black Panther parents.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You and Watts, doing what Watts do, washing cars and whatever else you got to do in Watts, similar to St. Louis Watts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, what was that encounter where God freaks your heart and say, yeah, I know we doing this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Go on, you know, because we get into the bag.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We doing what we got to do, but you, I need you to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I need you, did you come from a lot of pastors and preachers or where you like to pick and not go preach?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what was that like for you yeah my great grandmother was one of the six members that founded the church that was the family church okay I was in the proximity of church but I was too I had too much of the world in me to feel comfortable in the church I understood so I stayed away from it but
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I was 26, I was prospering in tax.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My background is tech.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I used to do data centers for companies.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I was an entrepreneur doing very well externally, but internally, my house and mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was sinful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My house, straight up, said I was proud too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Being proud, so proud that I watched watch this a VHS.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a VHS of me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: interacting with someone and I cried because that guy was proud man.
41:30
[SPEAKER_03]: He was he was doing well financially in you know in business and everything but I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I had a good heart but I was arrogant and so so you got it early yeah yeah 26 the
41:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, see, some people beat God when they're in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't in external trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was an internal trouble that I knew it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we came to this gay path there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not external trouble.
41:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't an external trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The money was good, health was good, all that kind of stuff was good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't good, and the beautiful thing is the conviction that I received when I was nine years old when I accepted Christ.
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[SPEAKER_03]: when I accept the crisis, not accepted the surrender that he requires.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that conviction was there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's stay with me even I was prospering.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm you know, freaking and doing a lot of cost after you do when you got money and you could, you know, inside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't good and I knew it so that conviction got louder and louder and I'll tell you I felt like if I didn't choose God's way that something was going to happen it was almost like all the grace that covered all that drama for all those years was getting ready to be lifted and I do believe that about grace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I would have gone to hell but I believe that
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[SPEAKER_03]: There would have been a lot of motivation for me to get my life together, had I not made the decision and say, yes, to God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now what I didn't know was that, yes, would ultimately involve preaching.
43:04
[SPEAKER_03]: But for me, like people like, you know, like starting a church, how did you do that?
43:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a member.
43:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I was an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my mentality is about scaling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can just sit and talk one-on-one with you and get you blessed, where I can use that same energy, create a stage, and a platform, and blessed multitudes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So my wiring as an entrepreneur, as a business person, is how I plan to the church.
43:25
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what guy?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hear the call, but I see how we're going to Yes, it's all the same in the system in a boom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's literally how it happened But for me as it relates to seeing this way about people I've recognized the grace that I've received Who you did the scripture talks about that woman and he just had to educate his disciples.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like This woman has has wiped my hurt my feet with her hair
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[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't give me no water.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, but the reason why she loves me is because she it's the one who has been forgiven much the same love if much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what happens is sometimes these cats get saved and they forget where they were and got found them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So watch this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they go to school and then they burn the school down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They graduate from the school and they burn the school of grace that they you you follow I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to remember how extravagant God's love and God's grace is.
44:16
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of times I got to look at your rear view and you'll find it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see people, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see, when I see people, I see potential.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really, some people see problems.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, somebody broke out in the church one day, they grabbed, I'm like, don't, let her go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, some people got to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But this one in particular, I'm like, let her go.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And she was drawn to the word.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, let her, let her, let her go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, another guy, he's worshiping.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he worships well past the song.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Leave him alone, like left people had a moment with God because I don't see a man's problems.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I see potential, man, as souls.
44:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I believe in every person has the opportunity to be amazing.
44:58
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't define them by the circumstances.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, I'm tear-eyed just because, like, sometimes you just don't know people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just grateful that you would feel safe enough here to be able to just share like who you are as a man.
45:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Because sometimes PR teams create things that are just, and I don't know, I don't get a chance to be on none.
45:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I got folk kids, little babies, single dad out here in these streets, so I don't get a chance to hear much.
45:28
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, just getting an opportunity to hear your heart and be able to be like, man, like to do this phenomenal, it makes sense.
45:36
[SPEAKER_04]: So having my questions is like,
45:39
[SPEAKER_04]: When you meet, when you meet your father in love, like what was it like, I'm like, if I'm a father in love and I hear a man's heart, like I don't hear words, like I just hear heart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I have a, like the word H-E-E-A-R-T.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the ear in the middle of a heart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's what my ear hears.
45:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
45:50
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm always really, really open.
45:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
45:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me just listen, let me listen, oh yeah, that's really great like he should be there like we should make it all good So to be able to hear your heart like it really helps me when it comes to this amazing book Yeah, because you know, I'm an avid reader like I'm kind of a father who is stuff right now Like my kids are changing so I'm kind of looking for the knowing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know I've raised his boy for the last three years alone at home, you know after divorce like he
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[SPEAKER_04]: I opted to stay with dad, so he's my little roommate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's about to go fly now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He might go to, he might go to the cops.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, little birdy, don't fly away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What am I supposed to do without you walking around with your shirt off?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And me wanting to punch in your chest, because I know you're mad with your shirt off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's out of your shirt off, you know?
46:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me more, tell me about the book and how did we get to the knowing, man?
46:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, you describe it.
46:46
[SPEAKER_03]: You talked about how you don't really listen to people's words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: you you listen to their heart.
46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: What you're talking about is the ability to perceive beyond the natural.
47:02
[SPEAKER_03]: You talk about another realm.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And knowing, you know, people talk about like divine awareness, some people call it intuition or whatever, and they describe it as the sixth sense.
47:13
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the sixth sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually the first sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were created to know, we were created to perceive things that God would be given to us in real time so that we can follow that and ultimately experience all that God has to store for us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were literally born in the context of that.
47:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So what knowing is about is man, we're in very, very uncertain times and the not only uncertain they're unstable.
47:40
[SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing, I tell people all the time, we're not doing as good as we think we are, because the brain was not designed to manage that much unpredictability all at once.
47:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when the brain cannot predict what is next,
47:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It goes into this fight or flight or freeze mode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The creative part of your brain shuts down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The part of your brain that is the best for the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All that shuts down.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is why we are doing either nothing.
48:10
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, people are experiencing decision fatigue.
48:13
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, look, should I, should I move to Cali or leave Cali?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should I move to Cali?
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[SPEAKER_03]: start this business or should I try to seek a promotion on my job?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should I tonight in this relationship or should I I should I get into this new one?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody everybody's in transition.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I bet 95% of the people that you will call right now are in transition and it is a long-gay to transition because
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[SPEAKER_03]: there is not a stability in the midst of this uncertainty.
48:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And here is the thing, here's what I learned about God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like when God is getting ready to do something for you, it always starts with an earthquake.
48:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Bible says in Hebrews 12, everything that can be shaken will be shaken, and he tells us why.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that, that which cannot be shaken can remain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when you see all this uncertainty, you ain't gonna put in a ladule in the middle of the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's real, everything has to be shaking for that that cannot be shaking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not moving, it can't be moved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can I be a preacher now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, be a preacher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because you all are so, so this, this is the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Romans 819, one of my favorite passages, scriptures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it talks about how the earnest expectation of creation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: eagerly waits for the revealing or the manifesting of the sons of God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So God has sons, but they have shells on them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shells of fear, shells of sometimes even religion, all these shells that keep
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[SPEAKER_03]: who they truly have been created to be, the version of them that God knew before He put them in their mother's womb.
49:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Pressure produces that real true raw version of you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So everything that ain't you gets shook in the shaking, everything so that the real you can come forth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the backdrop that we're living in in our country, the crazy things that we're seeing in our country, and not just in our country in the whole world,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's part of the shaking because you know from California.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So when the earth shakes when the earthquake comes the ground is never the same again It is a repositioning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So here's the problem if you are caught up in the uncertainty of it all and you don't get ground and ground it by knowing then instead of being
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[SPEAKER_03]: tapped in so that you can see the steps that will lead you to be the head and not the tail, you're consumed just like everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, what knowing is about is tapping back into a resource that God has given to us to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let them say one thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We, we've heard that verse, eyes have not seen come on here's have not heard the things that God prepares for for those of us who love them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's first Corinthians chapter two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll never die.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we look at that and we go to heaven immediately.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We like yes, how in this true gut there's one for the, but that's not the context.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The context is revealed in a second verse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, so he says, I have not seen or he has heard nor has entered in the heart of things that God has prepared for those who love Him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, but they have been revealed to us by His Spirit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His Spirit searches the deep things of God.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, you guys study whole things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that we might know the things that are freely given to us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what that's telling us is there are things that you will know not by what you see.
51:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Your eyes can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your ears can't hear it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And quite frankly, your heart can't even perceive it.
51:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's deeper than that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a knowing that God gives you all of us have a knower.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is the world is too loud for you to one recognize it so that you can ultimately too train it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got to train it and you can get prolific at knowing.
52:13
[SPEAKER_03]: You may not know all the details
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a small percentage of people who actually finished books.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a part of the small percentage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was one thing that people can take away from this book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If it was one thing that you like, man, if you don't get anything else, what would it be in this book?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
52:34
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I'm gonna tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a lot, and it's hard to narrow it down the one, but I'm gonna give you one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a word in the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and Hebrews that was translated census, so only in the Bible, and all the scripture one time, to Greek word, and the literal translation of that word is organ of perception, organ of perception.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If God gave us ears to hear, and eyes to see, and a nose to smell, would he not give us an organ or something to perceive spiritually, something that he would pre-installed in us that will allow us to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You hear people saying all the time, I just don't know, or I just don't know, or whatever, stop saying that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's a version of you that knows you just have to learn how to recognize it, tap into it, train it, and that's what the book, the book, unpacks it all Bible all the way through from the front to the back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even if you're not into the Bible, I just use the Bible to support what's being said in the book.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have a nowhere and you need your nowhere right now because it will guide you to certainty in the midst of all this uncertainty.
53:46
[SPEAKER_04]: One of my favorite guys Andy Stanley.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said whenever he's writing something, he has a burden.
53:52
[SPEAKER_04]: What was the burden for this book for you?
53:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw the world like going crazy.
53:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And I saw the effect that the world going crazy was having on people.
54:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also cross-reference that to the reality of, that's not my testimony, it's not my poor, I don't feel it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, that's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I have no link.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know and I'm cultivating that knowing so why there was this running from trouble I'm seeing the opportunity in the trouble and I'm building something so that when the dust settles I'll be on top I'll be the head and not to tell as leadership and God wants that for all his people He doesn't want us to shrink and sorrow like everybody else.
54:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He wants us to be grounded and anchored in our knowing so that we can ultimately lead this country and world.
54:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Man, listen, this is our time.
54:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I got a, I got a, I got a, land is playing.
54:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never done this to come on, but I got the grab, this is a good, right?
54:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna hold this book, and I wanna make sure that we grab this book, knowing, and let me tell you why.
54:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Just for transparency.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just in the last three weeks, the middle one you watched this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Holy spirit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: has challenged me to occupy land in the midst of the world's family.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know why he would have me occupy land in the midst of whatever the world I going on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing Holy Spirit continues to put in me is that what's happening with them does not apply to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when I say you, that means us because there is a knowing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that the law will supply all of our needs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is a beautiful opportunity in the season where everybody else is giving you chatter of what's not to happen, where Holy Spirit is speaking on what can happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The questionable comes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's can we be anchored and knowing
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[SPEAKER_04]: what we have been practicing all these years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been practicing in church.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been practicing in culture.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been practicing with our disciplines.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been practicing with the Word of God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now it's game time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The question becomes, is where you practice in for real or where you just pretending?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So now you don't have a knowing that was supposed to be there when this time present itself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's between you and God.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But to those of you, the handful of people right now who could maybe put something in the comment, just put knowing in the comment, you know that right now that you're called to be the head of not the tale above and underneath, the lender and not the barwood, that there are opportunities that are coming that will be very scary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was sitting there talking to the owner of this is it just having a good talk with Butch and he was telling me about COVID and he was like, do you know what I wanted to tell you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I wanted to spirit had me do, man, during COVID.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know that big prize I owned up there, it worked out to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But man, the Lord gave me that little piece of dirt during COVID.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody thought I was crazy to invest in the time of a pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, you know what that little piece of dirt is producing more revenue, not an other thought that he could, man, but the Holy Spirit knew.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I laugh because I love his trajectory because he understands that he doesn't have the education to do this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have all of the tools, but the Bible the class says, that in your weakness, he's made strong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The question is, in your knowing, although you are weak, can you really identify that strong sense of God, then say, I'm going after this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I gotta do this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Last story and I'm out your way and I pray that he doesn't mind me telling, but one of my buddies, he's the executive producer, one of the producers here on the show, and God just got him by $1,000 a light.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, I don't know why I'm splitting all this money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the only one on the phone, smile and say, you doing right baby, you gotta know it on the inside of you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That means that you have been in your secret place to hear that small sweet voice to tell you what to do.
57:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, this is what I knew.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said, he got a stick with me for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said, he said, man, I don't even know why I'm doing this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why would I be spending money during this time?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said, because you got to know him, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know that God is preparing you for something that's going to be great in your content and about to be life-changer and trajectory-changer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: People who are going one way are going to be going another way, because of the investment that you put in the ground right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, he's mad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See, he's real cheap, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I believe that if you do it with God, that soil is so rich and expensive and with that little cheap seed and that rich soil, I believe that God's gonna give you that amazing harvest.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so proud of you for sticking around this entire show and I believe that your best days are yet to come.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shouldn't if you will be more junior encouraging you to love you more, go pick up that book more.
58:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Brother Torrey, Robert is cute.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't know you were so like, bro, like, I'm so full, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I am so full, like I'm not like, I had to hold back tears, bro, like you get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can really, really get it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know what the new rolling going to be, but I don't know if you give this version all the time, but man, this is so dope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love spaces where I can't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm committed to doing, I mean, I'm gonna get in trouble for a few things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm, I'm saying it to say I've been talking, but no, man, it's time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, he's a desperate times and desperate times and it says it's at authenticity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: straight out, the real version of us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so grateful for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, it has, like, because I don't do like all the clickbait not aircraft.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm very curious, like, of people hearts, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And man, you got one of the purest hearts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I just want people to be around you, to protect it at all costs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I see it on you, I feel like, like, this pure horse, bro, like real talk.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't get that much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't get an opportunity to have safety when you pure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a pure, all things pure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I always see the great points of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Man, everything's going to be great.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Like somebody has to tell me, you know, dude, that a gun.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_04]: You in the back, he robbing the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me talk to him, but I don't do his talk to him, you know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm so grateful, man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Willie Mojoong, you're here.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're working with him.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And have you joined the flat out family?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You need to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If that go to flatoutfamily.com right now, because on Monday's, we give you the opportunity to learn all about finance.
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_04]: How to take your financial life to a whole other level, okay?
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Then on Tuesday, AJ Jorners in the building, he's going to let you know how you can make some money at home with remote jobs, and even if it's not a remote job, he's going to put some extra money in your pocket.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, Wednesday, it's all about relationships.
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, you've been thinking about the D-word divorce.
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[SPEAKER_04]: for many, but you don't have to, right?
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You've been going through a lot in your relationship.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Tardis, I train in licensed psychologists and relationships specialists.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's gonna give you all the tools you need to take your relationship to another level.
1:00:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then on Thursday, our educational guru as we like to call him, Kata Simmons, he's gonna be in the building.
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he often has advice for kids and students, but I always take notes.
1:01:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's gonna bless you as an adult.
1:01:07
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